I responded to a Reddit thread years ago of someone asking if an SSD would speed up their PS3. I was down voted because I said it would, but brainlets on reddit said the SATA speeds would make it not be any faster. Go figure then a non moving drive is faster than a moving drive. Who'd thunk that. Great video!
Did you miss the part where SSDs were hecking expensive back then? The bump in load times wasn't big enoug to justify a ludicrously expensive 128gb SSD over getting dramatically more space for less with a 500gb HDD. Yeah, physics, obviously, but also the price you paid for what you got back then was a big consideration.
@@KiraSlith This was like in 2016, they weren't particularly expensive back then. I can't find the exact thread I was on but go look up the thread "A question regarding hard drives 2016" people were saying that.
I had to go to select the gaming tag to see this recommendation, so I doubt it works have been recommended unless I started watching quite a few more gaming related films.
@@pathfindercast i will explain , Sony is now working on a PS2\PS3 Emulator on PS5 , if you got the Disc you can play "thing" ... too boost its sales of the console that staggered since new games are awful this days, so they payed YT to boost any PS3\PS2 video... simple , now any PS3\PS2 vid does crazy numberos ... even i can see that on my side
I sorta miss the High School arguments of why PS3 was better than 360 at the time. Of course I'm not as close minded to Xbox now. But back then I was all in on PS3. I mostly just liked being different in school.
@@sonicstarman9663 😂😂 I was the same way but I really did love playstation back then. The ps2 and ps3 were the first consoles I bought with my own money
@@sonicstarman9663 I was a person who owned a Nintendo Wii, and it was worth it. Considering the longevity and least expensive route compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3's issues were on the console, The Nintendo Wii would be the last console I would ever get in the 7th generation, before I moved on to COD Black Ops 1 in 2011, and then eventually PC gaming in 2015 and never looked back.
@@SuperFlashDriver I'm definitely more of a Nintendo and PC guy now. Other than Nintendo, SEGA, Square Enix and sometimes Bandai Namco, Insomniac and Capcom, and other Sony studios, I don't care about most triple a games. Most of the games I play on my PC, are older games that I missed out on or indie games that would more than likely appeal to a Nintendo fan. I still go back to consoles sometimes mostly because I prefer Linux over Windows. Steam Proton is awesome. But it's still hit or miss outside of Steam.
@@sonicstarman9663 Yeah. I used to be a Nintendo fan on their consoles but I stopped buying them after the Nintendo Wii. Linux on the other hand I have not tried out yet so that's something I've yet to ssee and check out someday.
One thing I saw when I upgraded to a ssd on my ps3, when using heavy titles like GTAV or metal Gear 4/5 and black ops 2 was instant texture pop in. Where all the game assets loaded properly and quickly. Also load time diminished.
Yes, it only just takes a mere 7 hours to install gran Turismo 6. PS3 always was a deeply flawed piece of hardware with usability issues. Thankfully, pretty much every noteworthy game it had was rereleased and improved on PS4.
Such a great console that it never got forwards compatibility with PS4 or 5 because of it's wierd architecture lol. It was a nightmare to develop for and still is an emulation nightmare.
Another benefit of the SSD is the thermals. Mechanical drives generate a lot more heat which the console has to work even harder to dissipate and cool. By using an SSD, you're keeping the internal temps down and prolonging the life of the console and reducing YLOD.
Literally doesn't make any noticeable difference. Your console is constantly working with 100s of watts of heat from the main motherboard alone, so a few watts less will do nothing. It was designed with HDDs so it'll continue to run fine.
If you have a backwards compatible, especially an A01 or B01, this makes the most amount of sense for loading up a BUNCH of PS2 games to the internal storage! Makes it where you don’t have to go look for discs or worry about wearing out lasers!
Even if you're running slim models you can back up Ps2 discs and run the games off ISO's stored in the harddrive, its NUTS I was hesitant to upgrade from my fat model because i was misconstrued into believing i would be locked out of PS2 games but she may now rest safely while i run my slim to bone😖
@@HollowedCrow Yeah, but compatibility is a bit hit and miss, around 10% of my PS3 collection doesn't work on my PS3 slim (I have ~180 games, 15-20 have various types of issues, or straight up don't load).
I recently upgraded my PS3 with an SSD and although it only makes a marginal difference to load times due to SATA 1 speeds, it makes a MASSIVE difference to both the snappiness of the XMB and level streaming in game. When playing GTA 4, it used to take about 7 seconds to load in everything around me and nothing would load in when travelling at massive speeds, now everything loads almost instantaneously and traversal stutter is completely gone
Comment a little late, but without a doubt the game that benefited most from SSD on the PS3 was Final Fantasy 14, and I'm not even talking about loading times but rather about real influence on the game. There were cases of NPCs, enemies, or players not loading because the PS3's HDD couldn't support a game of this scale, and to be honest, just having this game run on the PS3 was incredible. But the SSD really made an absurd difference, I recommend anyone interested in the subject to take a look at a comparison.
People always state “it cant take advantage of the hardware”. Those people have no clue, what they are talking about. The menu is improved, pop in is improved, and the screening tearing is gone. So the major complaints are gone. Any game that needs internal storage will see a massive difference. Far Cry for example is such a big difference. The SSD will always perform better. GTA V being installed on the SSD only huge difference in performance, and load times. Im not sure what SSD I put in my PS3 super slim. But theres not really load times. Im doing the same thing to my PS4 to increase its performance, & mainly storage.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
Thanks for hard drive lessen. The PS3 does have a rebuild database option though in safe mode. So it actually can defragment the hdd or ssd or sshd, whatever you put in it. But older toshiba hdds are prone to failure back in the day. 😢
@@jaimeerobertswarz even if they have defragment , u never know where physical data are placed , there is different type of defragmentation methode , some are just '' deplacing the data without gap on the disk , without store them from file to same folder , that mean a folder can contain file near ( a bunch of photo by exemple ) stored in end of disk and other file in start of disk , even if they near in the folder , that mean the head will have to move for search them for start to end ( big seek acces ) some defragmente will place the data from a same folder physicaly near in the plater disk , it's more long and windows never do that by exemple ( some program do ) it's like at home u can have box of apple and box of peach fully stored in place in your kicthen but they still not in the order bewteen box they still mixed , but they are stored in same '' room '' it's exaclty same , if u want force a game to be stored at better place u have to delete all , hdd place the data in empty place by priority
@@pochul do you think its safe on a PS4 Pro using an 1tb SSHD 7200 rpm with 8gb catche to rebuild the database every month? Or is that potentially decreasing the sshds lifespan? Because I see all these videos stating speed up your ps4 or ps4 by rebuilding the data base all the time. Im like are you sure? Because like you stated it will need to find the files all over again. So in theory wouldnt it make the console slower the more you do it?
@@jaimeerobertswarz i don't think it's will chance sshd are diffrent , they just put data on SSD when they read a lot the same file often, on the fly , u can'"t controle which data are in the ssd part , it's acting like a caching/buffer in ram but on the nand portion , not like a real ssd
Two things to note about the installation of fear 3. It's either a limitation of the BluRay drive or a limitation of the SATA generation that both HDD and SSD are connected to. It's likely that it's a little of both. Even HDDs saw an improvement in performance shifting from SATA 3 gbps to SATA 6 gbps
what good is LBP on PS3 if all the servers are shut down? you making levels to play with your friends locally? playing the story? I just made a track in LBP karting for the first time in like 10 years, but LBP Karting at least does not have a working PS4 game as a replacement.
@@Unlucky1776 TLOU I’ve noticed it load in about 5-10 seconds, GTA5 still takes some time to load but if you’re going very fast you won’t deal with objects randomly appearing in front of you as they typically would with the stock HDD.
I had a spare HDD and SSD (both 1tb) laying about and put the HHD in my PS3 slim because I heard that unless games were digital or very hard drive bound, the results are negligible. Granted that was before I got games like GT5 and GT6. Thanks for the video to show differences!
hard drives are serviceable if you don't mind waiting, but if it's capable of taking an ssd you should probably put one in. The only systems that I don't think would benefit from an ssd are really old systems where their slow cpu is the bottleneck, something like a ps2 or older if it has storage. The original xbox also I think would barely benefit at all from an ssd. The main benefit in these cases is just the increased reliability and noise reduction from an ssd
I love seeing this done on a console, one of my ultimate favorite things to do when I get new hardware is just load up games from upwards of 20 years ago just to see how snappy the load is and the frame rate go bonkers.
I installed an ssd years ago the added benefit is that you have a ton of free space. Remember guys games were a lot smaller (storage) than they are today! I still have the PS3 today and it still works great.
Absolutely. Games were below the 10gb/15gb limit for the discs and games, Xbox 360 were usually under 10Gb (near the 7/8gb mark, and Nintendo Wii is near the same amount of gigabytes (4/5gbs) as the ones from the PS2 & Xbox 2001 console (aka Original Xbox, The First Variation of the Xbox console). If there are SSDs you can get that are 4Tbs, you can fit the entire PS3 library, including PS2 and PS1, and still be able to play these games with excellent storage capacity and speed.
@SuperFlashDriver ps3 is limited to under 2TB as it uses MBR. You can use 1tb internal (safer then the 1.5tb mod) and get external hdd to load your isos using webman irisman
@@mannyjoseph4520 Ahhh you were talking about the console...Sorry, I must have talked about emulation...Sorry for the confusion. But I would say it would have to be separate TB hard disk drives to switch back and fourth for different game installs then (If I end up having more than twenty games or so to play on the actual PS3 console).
I installed an SSD in my ps3 super slim in 2015. At that time, I suggested that it was worth it. The SSD I used was a cheap lower end one. The SSD is still in there, working like a champ. Still no issues after all these years. Granted, this all was published on a website that shut down nearly 5 years ago. I'm glad to see that people are trying new things with the devices they have.
Nice work! I have a 480GB SSD in my PS3. Load times are good (and the XMB is very snappy). I might try to copy the data into a 2.5-inch HDD (either with the backup utility or Acronis) in order to compare loading times. I don't plan to compare install times thought.
Always wanted to do this project myself with my own fat PS3 but sadly I had no controllers and eventually gave up, glad to see someone else had the idea and uploaded it.
Bro is so passionate about games and technology that got me thinking about going back to my PS3 and give it the SSD treatment along with getting a FEAR 3 copy lol Thanks for the video
I fitted a cheap 256GB one years ago, when prices got so low they were peanuts. All modem SATA SSDs would saturate PS3's SATA interface, it was always the random read and write that made PS3 so much faster in XMB. It sped up installation and loading in several games, helping out MGS4 and Gran Turismo 5 in my own tests. GT6 had several infamously huge patches that could crash PS3 if you didn't install one at a time- with an SSD it could manage it all at once.
Yes I’ve noticed MUCH less fan noise and you also hear no noise from the Hard Drive as there is no disc in a SSD. XMB is much snappier and the PSN store actually works. Installation of data is WAY faster and I’ve noticed games like Arkham Orgins has less hitching when auto saving. Not a crazy big improvement, but overall the little things all add up and just makes the quality of life experience much better. And SSD’s are so cheap now there isn’t really a reason not too. I got a 1TB Samsung SSD for the PS3 for about 80bucks
320 gb is enough if u play no moded console , as on ps3 it's often semi install game for the game of end of era , 2012 - 2017 game from start era 2006 - 2011 , won"t install anything ( of physical ) they was rare
I enjoy how you have a little snippet of info and your own opinion with every game you use, Infamous 1 and 2 are great ways to look at the ps3 development life considering infamous 1 was a release title and infamous released near the end of the ps3 life cycle. The ps3 architecture was tricky and took longer to learn how it works compared to other consoles. I also suggest you play them in order, the story would make more sense
Hey Champ, all of my ps3 videos are using the Samsung EVO 870 1tb and I use hardware upscaling too. Last thing, if you want the absolute best from the ps3, the RSX must be overclocked. Ive tried a few and the 750Mhz boost is just excellent 🥊🥊🔥🙏
What lots of people dont talk about is the fact that while the PS3 has a SATA port its actually converted from USB 3.0 So you are getting really slow speeds from that SATA slot. Maybe a PS3 Slim fixed it giving native SATA but i doubt it. Second, one of biggest benefits of using a SSD is going to the PS store and navigation everything is smooth as butter while the HDD takes forever to load stuff up and menus are chugging alone. Lastly what no one online talks about is Textures. Look at a game like boarderlands or something that is trying to stream data. You will have things loading in late. With an SSD everything loads in clear. The PS3 was an interesting system that quite frankly got cut back to save money that it really hurt it in the end. Im more excited to see emulation in the next 5 years making these games run like they should have.
usb 3 don't existed in 2006 , when ps3 was created i played gta 3 in 2013 and with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n 80 gb model ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
there's other benefits besides loading times. when GTAV released, i couldn't even properly play it on the PS3. pop-ins while driving made it unplayable. whole buildings and trees would just appear out of nowhere, because of how slow the old HDD streamed data. threw in an SSD, and i was able to play the game to completion just fine.
i played gta 3 in 2013 and stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
I've run SSD''s in my PS3 for over a decade. I used to use the Play TV accessory that turned the PS3 into a DVR. Using a SSD made a huge difference in the responsiveness of the UI, especially when it came to deleting files or performing other tasks while the device was recording. The biggest argument against using a SSD is the fact that the PS3 doesn't support TRIM. This will likely result in a shorter life span for the SSD. But a lot will come down to how often you use the PS3. And in todays age where you can jailbreak the PS3 to backup everything, having the SSD fail isn't a huge issue, more an inconvenience. However, as mentioned, I ran a 120gb Samsung SSD in my PS3 for many years with heavy use without any issues. It still works today.
I know this video is a year old, but I had read sometime towards the end of the PS3 lifespan that in addition to some quicker load times as you demonstrated here, that games that requires swap space for assets stored on the drive would show benefits as well. I remember the first RAGE when I played it and still had a spinning HDD in the PS3. The texture load in alone was pretty brutal in that game. But after putting in the SSD, the texture loads were almost non existent. I'be bee installing SSDs in most all of my storage based consoles since. Including one in my PS4 Pro and even my PS2. Am I getting the performance of the SSD on most of these consoles? No, but the added benefits you have shown in addition to many other mentioned in previous comments are why I did.
Just to let you know, you don't need multiman open while copying your game via FTP. You can just get your PS3 IP and just connect and copy files without even touching multiman. Although, I do have webman mod installed, so this might be the reason, I can't confirm. Anyway, multiman still puts a slight load on the console and I prefer not running it for 2 hours while I copy stuff.
Storage capacity wise, it seems like a good investment. The loading speed increase is just a plus. I've heard the PS4 going from mechanical drive to SSD has similar kinds of results.. so its pretty much getting limited due to the bus speeds. Its definitely a good upgrade from running games off disc though. I remember during the PS2 era, having the network adapter with a HDD to store games (and HDloader) was a huge upgrade. One of the longest loading games I had played for PS2 was DBZ budokai, which literally had 1+ minute load times going from character select to a fight. This became about 10~15 seconds running from HDD.
5200rpm HDD really does drag compared to solid state Certain instances seem to also be limited by the CPU and ram prioritizations due to the PS3's optimization.
gt6 is bad exemple the game is full of small file , small file is make reading more slow tha same among of data in 1 big file , that why this game is slow to install too on ps3
This is a great video, it's what sold me on grabbing an SSD for my PS3 rather than relying on the stock drive. I ended up grabbing a 512GB one and it fits every single game I ever wanted to play on it! Regarding the Gran Turismo 6 portion where the icons load in, playing Destiny on PS3 is the same way. Pressing start opens the menu, where by default on the HDD all the icons slowly load in and make the system laggy until they're finished. On SSD, they load in nearly instantly, letting me swap weapons in under a second. It's life-changing!
My brother was an early adopter of SSDs....he had a 32GB SSD but he didn't pay $699 for it...I think he bought it when it was like $300...I thought he was crazy for paying $300 for 32GB when you could get like a 250GB or 320GB mechanical drive for about half that....but at the same time I wasn't into PC gaming at that time....What I used a PC for was very light...web browsing, listening to music and watching videos. About 6 years ago I got into PC gaming and realized how important an SSD really is...I had a laptop with a 512GB SSD and 1TB mechanical drive and put my AAA games on the SSD and put stuff like emulators, ROMs, music and movies on the mechanical drive. Now I just have an SSD in my laptop and just need more space for everything I do on it...
some games have issues with SSD on PS3 and since the Biggest drive without going through hoops you can install is 1TB going with an SSHD is the best solution for PS3 sure some games will load several seconds faster but some won't so considering you only get this with of course the issues some games has it's not worth it
For GT 6 in practice you might not notice that much, the game loads the map as you tune your car, so if you are used to tuning your car before racing, it will be almost instantaneously, just try it, open the start race menu and wait a few seconds before pressing to start, it will take less time to load as it would have already loaded part of it
Surprised it actually makes a difference. Guess I’m gonna upgrade my ps3. Been playing on all my old consoles recently since gaming seems to be all about battle royale online or service based these days.
Note on the write speed differences. The no-name SSD used in the video is absolutely lowest shelf category and DRAMless, so with a non QLC drive with DRAM the console would perform way-way better most likely in the ftp scenario for example
Good thing I saw this the same week I decided to finally open up my Backwards compatible ps3 for the first time since 2009 for cleaning, refreshing the paste and all that, I remember back in 201...3? I changed the stock HDD for a higher capacity one and never touched it again but now, with cheap ssds, and considering I refreshed it all up, might just buy an ssd and chuck it there.
While the older SATA versions make it less dramatic compared to swapping on PC, for sure there is benefit as they still load faster not having moving parts and can actually saturate the bus (if I recall, HDDs won't max out SATA).
I installed an SSD into my PS3 back in 2010 using a 128Gb. System remained cooler longer, faster install & level load times, less jaggies, & smoother gameplay. I installed an SSD in my base & Pro PS4 as well.
I swapped out the HDD with a 1TB Samsung SSD in my PS4 Pro and it made a huge difference; however, I’d like to do the same with my launch day PS3. Awesome video, bro!
I installed a ssd in my ps3 too. The big thing holding back the ssd speed is the ps3 sata controller which a sata I. The iops are way better than a spinning hdd.
I installed an SSD (1TB Crucial MX500) in my PS4 at the end of 2020 and have been happy with it. So last summer, when I spotted the 500GB model of the MX500 selling for just £30 on Amazon UK, I thought I'd upgrade my PS3 Slims 160GB HDD. And I've been happy with the results, like the PS4 the PS3 UI feels, for lack of a better term, snappier on an SSD. It was cheap enough where I figured it would be worth it either way, and as I run stock OS (ie not CFW), 500GB is plenty of space for me personally. When I did the backup & restore, I only had about 40-50GB of data, so was able to use a 64GB USB stick. It took about 2.5hrs for the backup then 90m for the restore. I know that with an SSD you may eventually run into issues, due to the lack of TRIM support. But personally I always keep save backups etc. so it's less of a concern and you could always do a backup to a spare USB HDD and then restore that, if/when you ran into issues. Also for those on CFW looking to maximise the storage, there's conflicting info whether the PS3 supports max of 1TB or 1.5TB. But a 1TB HDD or SSD is probably a safer bet. As for what SSD to pick, some will suggest any cheap SSD as the PS3 is only SATA 1, but I'm not so sure. Cheaper SSDs typically have no DRAM cache, which can effect performance & lifespan, and may even have slower writes than a HDD. All I can say is my PS3 & PS4 run well on the MX500 drives, so those are what I'll typically recommend.
max without moded ps3 is 1.5 tb hdd , i ever try , if u want use 2 tb drive u have to cloning 1.5 tb on 2 tb first bcuz ps3 is not capable to manage or partitionnate 2 tb drive , but 1.5 tb is not easy to have and often slow , 1 TB is overkill without CFW , i same of you my ps3 is not hacked and 500 and 320 gb is far enough
don't worry life of ssd are used by writing and not by reading , if u not install 50 game per day u will never use ur lifespan into a ps3 , ps3 only write when save ( some Few megabyte per save ) and at install , never during the gameplay , you ssd will live 20 year without problem inside a ps3 , even a ps4 ( although a ps4 can have more writing than ps3 ) so don't worry , 1 tb ssd can be use 300 tb of writing , will u ever write 300 tb of game on ps3 ? that mean writing the disk fully everyday for 1 year lol , impossible ps3 is to slow for write 1 tb per day it's will last 15 year more , my ssd kingston v300 , 120 gb is still run fine on my pc now i bought 12 year ago with my ps3 , my ps3 was die already 2 time since this time , but my ssd still fine 47 TB of reading and almost 30 tb of writing for almost 12 year
dram cache do'nt affect the reading , it's only when u writing/installing , as when u install game on ps3 u can northing else during this process ( is not a pc ) , it's totaly useless to have dram ssd in ps3 ,it's wont install your game faster , ps3 is limited by is acces network , even with fiber i never go faster than 5 or 6 mb/sec of donwloading on ps3 , the network even 1gbps is locked around 50 mbs/s not even the half of ethernet 100 mb , 1gps network on ps3 is totaly useless if if ps3 is compatible ethernet 1 gbps ( maybe for transfert console to console ) or sony restrained the network now maybe
A major overhead factor in load speeds for most PS3 games is the decompression of assets. It doesn’t really matter how fast read speeds are if the data being read isn’t immediately useable, and virtually every PS3 game was made with some form of data compression, even on disc-based games (for some reason), meaning that data can’t just be directly streamed off of the disc, and therefore not off the hard drive either (and any data stored on the drive normally by the game would have been encrypted anyway). This is why PS5 games tend to be significantly larger than their PS4 counterparts - files are uncompressed specifically to minimize load times by eliminating the decompression step on anything that could be needed “instantly” or on-demand. It’s a HUGE difference in philosophy but one that could only be made possible by requiring an SSD. That’s why there’s diminishing returns on older consoles which were never even designed with SSDs in mind.
ps5 are encrypted file too , kraken compression but a chip specialy made for that is used , it's not cpu who uncrypt , even regular ssd now are fully encrypted inside ( kingston by exemple ) , but it's cannot be seen by user , what is made slow in ps3 is the chunk of small file , that why gt6 is so slow for install , the game is full of small file , hdd are not good when file are small , it's add more acces time
gta 5 use streaming of bluray directly for by exemple reading music of radio , if u put cover of ur ps3 open and slow the drive bluray with your finger the music will have skipping like a cd audio , that mean ps3 is fully capable to read on the fly from bluray disk , but it's not used often just for older game or mid game era 2006 -2011 , after that ps3 start to have semi install for end gen game ( 2011-2017 game )
One thing that you might have not considered in testing is memory compression and decompression. With an SSD textures pop instantly with the highest resolution possible, while with a hard drive they took a split second, it was noticeable. I remember finding this with Borderlands when turning around. All in all, an SSD in your PS3 is the best investment you can make if you like the console. It's not my favorite, and it's actually one of my least played consoles, but it definitely has a solid catalog that would benefit from an investment in a 1tb or 2tb sata SSD. Just for advice: look for some that has cache, the less expensive ones don't have it and it's noticeable, I think that the extra ten bucks are worth it.
Great video. I had an SSD in my PS3, and it was definitely faster. I think the myth that SSD doesn't really help PS3 comes from the old days, when SSD drives were really expensive. Nowadays, when they're as cheap as they are, it's really a no-brainer to install one in your console.
The main question I have is this: what kind of SSD did you purchase? Was it one with a DRAM Cache and high quality NAND? Or was it a cheap no-name SSD. Because some SSDs can perform worse than a hard drive if they’re made too cheaply.
@@mindrover777 around $30 can get you a good sata SSD with either a dram or slc cache. But, the market is also flooded with extremely poorly made ssds that sometimes are slower than a hard drive. No matter the budget, I was just curious on which one was used in the video. Also, to anybody seeing this: do not buy any WD Blue SATA SSDs - after having to deal with the horrendous speeds while trying to explain to friends and customers about why their computer is being slow with a newly purchased SSD, I had explain this exact principle.
Interesting. Some of those HDDs are almost 20 years old now so unfortunately I can see why many of them start fail now, even when they may have spent most of their time powered off due to their magnetic properties.
@pathfindercast I thought I wouldn't have any problems because of what others have said. Maybe I have an hdd death touch. Acquaintance brought me his 10 dollar 1tb hhd, and it would read. Then I even brought it best buy, and they couldn't figure out either. I noticed some people don't like ssd, but I think they're going by old information.
I did this to both of my original ps3s but didn’t do it to my super slim because it runs cooler than both and runs fine with the hard drive it has “500gb”
Hey OP, while loading from the disc vs SSD, were you loading the disc with an HDD installed, or an SSD? Playing Payday 2 with a disc + SSD in my PS3, I still load into an online map much faster than everyone else.
Great question. I did have an HDD installed, but it was completely full and therefore no disc space for the game. I would imagine that loading from disc + SDD with enough free space would give some performance improvements.
@pathfindercast some games, like GTAV, utilize loading of installed hard drive data but also streaming off the disc at the same time to efficiently load assets. A digital copy of GTAV loads slower on ps3/360 than using a disc copy with data installed.
Considering how inexpensive SSDs are now, it's definitely worth it. Beyond improving loading times, it eliminates the lag that occurs when populating menu lists in both the XMB and in-game. No more disk seek!
The size of the hardrive would also affect the performance, he did not mention if the HD used was brand new or the size and rpm speeds on the video, if you tried to pick the fastest HD drive at the max supported size for the ps3, the difference in performance should become minimal as the cap becomes the conector, I believe the ps3 must use something equivalent to a IDE conector with 150mbs or a sata 2 with 300mbs
@@3750gustavo these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 hdd ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed 1 TB model ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , ( i bough Ssd 120 gb at this time for 20£ more than this 1 Tb hdd ( i still use it in my pc after almost 12 year and it's run by the way kingston V300 if u want know ) but ssd is far more better i agree , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density per surface ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 attempt of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , the head will move '' less '' an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first data will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( where hdd is more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
if u don't need more capacity u can cloning ssd from hdd on ps3 ( ps4 wont work bcuz ps4 read the number serial of hdd for know when u change hdd friom the console ) and serial number is not cloned during process ( it's stored on chip ) , but on ps3 it's work if u cloning hdd on same machine of course ( cloning 500 gb by exemple on 512 gb ssd ) won't require any install , but u can't gain any capacity if u cloning 250 gb on 500 gb Sdd u will only have 250 gb perfect replica , u won't be able to gain full capicity or realocate some free space , for that u need fresh reinstall
i just borught the infamous collection on ps3 store. i know i had infamous and infamous 2. some reason infamous stopped working, so i brought hte collection to have festival and all the other dlcs
there is uneven time stamp calculation between both version. on SSD you wait 5 more seconds when picking up main menu due "first time introduction info screen come up" on the HDD side you don't get this because you were played it before. so it should be 01:38+5 more second and on SSD side 01:07-5 second if you want to match with HDD version Edit: The part I point is here: 01:51
I wish this video this video was around when I updated my HDD a few years ago. I was was planning to swap for an SSD anyway because my new 5400rpm drive made the console louder than the stock drive but most of what I'd read said that even upgrading to a 7200rpm drive would just increase noise and heat with minimal gain. Most of my games are digital anyway. Oh well, I guess.
This upgrade has 2 other bonuses that makes it worth it the XMB Menu works better but also games perform slightly better not just loading faster but actually playing closer to what they should've played as since the console doesn't have to allocate as many resources to loading the game anymore once its loaded its loaded
I got an SSD just so the XMB would quit stuttering, the hard drives used even in the PS3 slims are way way worse than the ones eventually used in the PS4. The loading times in games are not that bad but it's the responsiveness that really counts
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd here my exemple : i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want , so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch ssd have not this problem
hdd ps3 is bad for density too they was made almost 15 year ago and they was often not even reach the limit of sata 1 themself , last Hdd 2.5 , 1 Tb or 2 tb is far more faster , i guess the better HDD in 2.5 inch is almost 165 mb/sec hdd from ps3 from 2006 by exemple it's 50-60 mb/sec of reading speed depend the brand and 35 - 45 mb /of writing
One of the biggest differences for me was dark souls 2, going from disc which loaded 20-30 seconds on deaths or teleporting to about 5 seconds with an ssd
I just put one in my ps3 because retired my sata ssd from my pc cuz I got an m.2 that's 2tb cheap. So having more space than default is going to be nice in ps3
so far i know the PS3 [FAT] only has a SATA2 Connection to the drive. so a SSD has not that big of an impact then a SATA3 Connection. sure its still a few seconds. but i would only replace the HDD for an SSD when i have a spare one left or the HDD is failing
Infamous and Infamous 2 are just about my favorite games on the PS3. Yes, I highly recommend you play Infamous (the original) in addition to its sequel ! It would make more sense to play them in order for the storyline. It's not 100% necessity IMO
The biggest benefit to me was always gonna be Gran Turismo. Lots of small assets that need to be loaded which are scattered around with little predictability. Worst case scenario for a hdd.
It's a freaking massive improvement. So much so a few games actually perform better due to less loading pauses dragging the minimums down. It's incredible and totally worth it if you love your PS3. Get one with high endurance. I got a 500GB 860 Evo for mine and it should last the life of the console with care.
life or ssd are affected by writing only i will never install 300 tb of game inside a 1 tb hdd inside a ps3 , even if u want install fully and deleted the sdd everyday, ps3 is too slow for have 1 gb of data per day from network , that mean even with 10 % of that , ur ssd will last at last 10 x more , go for it , life is not a problem , gaming don't use ssd on ps3 , ps3 don't write during game it's only reading and save of few mb/sec wont never use the writing life of any ssd , even i try to install 1 tb per day ( if u can have so many data per day what i doubt bcuz sony server is limited around 5 or 6 mb /sec , u will never get 1 tb per 24hour ) so u can rest rassured of life of your ssd
I responded to a Reddit thread years ago of someone asking if an SSD would speed up their PS3. I was down voted because I said it would, but brainlets on reddit said the SATA speeds would make it not be any faster. Go figure then a non moving drive is faster than a moving drive. Who'd thunk that. Great video!
And it runs cooler. More reliable, too. Stuffed one in my PS2 for OPL. Box-art loads instantly!
@@curtis8516You can use an ssd on the ps2? I have one but never opened it up. Mine is slim
@@LoneWolff892 You need an adapter to make it work but it has an expansion bay that fits an IDE or SATA drive.
Did you miss the part where SSDs were hecking expensive back then? The bump in load times wasn't big enoug to justify a ludicrously expensive 128gb SSD over getting dramatically more space for less with a 500gb HDD. Yeah, physics, obviously, but also the price you paid for what you got back then was a big consideration.
@@KiraSlith This was like in 2016, they weren't particularly expensive back then. I can't find the exact thread I was on but go look up the thread "A question regarding hard drives 2016" people were saying that.
Worth it alone for how snappy and responsive it makes the XMB & MultiMan menus. Especially if you have a ton of ISO's archived.
Yeahh that's it bruh
That's it and of course, noise
@@TheDunbartxeen Well until you realize the PS3 is SATA1 and its all in your head that it's any faster.
@@miregoji2959
I know the limit of SATA1, SSD still is way faster than a HDD in a PS3.
It is not breathtaking but noticable.
@@miregoji2959 the xmb is noticeably faster with an ssd regardless of the board using sata1.
Why does RUclips NOW recommend this?? This is what I’d like to see day of.
In the last few days this video seemed to gain a bunch new views. I'm guessing the PS3/PS5 news triggered something in the algorithm.
I had to go to select the gaming tag to see this recommendation, so I doubt it works have been recommended unless I started watching quite a few more gaming related films.
@@pathfindercast i will explain , Sony is now working on a PS2\PS3 Emulator on PS5 , if you got the Disc you can play "thing" ... too boost its sales of the console that staggered since new games are awful this days, so they payed YT to boost any PS3\PS2 video... simple , now any PS3\PS2 vid does crazy numberos ... even i can see that on my side
@@hfricyou cant pay to promote an entire genre
I'm glad u benefitted from it bro...great vid
2006...My God, that seems like a lifetime ago. Though it was at the tail end, I so miss the sixth console generation.
I sorta miss the High School arguments of why PS3 was better than 360 at the time. Of course I'm not as close minded to Xbox now. But back then I was all in on PS3. I mostly just liked being different in school.
@@sonicstarman9663 😂😂 I was the same way but I really did love playstation back then. The ps2 and ps3 were the first consoles I bought with my own money
@@sonicstarman9663 I was a person who owned a Nintendo Wii, and it was worth it. Considering the longevity and least expensive route compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3's issues were on the console, The Nintendo Wii would be the last console I would ever get in the 7th generation, before I moved on to COD Black Ops 1 in 2011, and then eventually PC gaming in 2015 and never looked back.
@@SuperFlashDriver I'm definitely more of a Nintendo and PC guy now. Other than Nintendo, SEGA, Square Enix and sometimes Bandai Namco, Insomniac and Capcom, and other Sony studios, I don't care about most triple a games. Most of the games I play on my PC, are older games that I missed out on or indie games that would more than likely appeal to a Nintendo fan. I still go back to consoles sometimes mostly because I prefer Linux over Windows. Steam Proton is awesome. But it's still hit or miss outside of Steam.
@@sonicstarman9663 Yeah. I used to be a Nintendo fan on their consoles but I stopped buying them after the Nintendo Wii. Linux on the other hand I have not tried out yet so that's something I've yet to ssee and check out someday.
One thing I saw when I upgraded to a ssd on my ps3, when using heavy titles like GTAV or metal Gear 4/5 and black ops 2 was instant texture pop in. Where all the game assets loaded properly and quickly. Also load time diminished.
Ps3 is such a great console even today so many great games to go back and play
It’s a terrible console with a great library of games. Plagued with issues. Xbox 360 was the same though. Bad generation for reliability.
Yes, it only just takes a mere 7 hours to install gran Turismo 6. PS3 always was a deeply flawed piece of hardware with usability issues. Thankfully, pretty much every noteworthy game it had was rereleased and improved on PS4.
Such a great console that it never got forwards compatibility with PS4 or 5 because of it's wierd architecture lol. It was a nightmare to develop for and still is an emulation nightmare.
PS3 was a nightmare but only actual gamers from then remember… some good games I guess. Not even that, everything is now remastered lol
Im Currently Play all 4 Sly Coopers
Another benefit of the SSD is the thermals. Mechanical drives generate a lot more heat which the console has to work even harder to dissipate and cool. By using an SSD, you're keeping the internal temps down and prolonging the life of the console and reducing YLOD.
Literally doesn't make any noticeable difference. Your console is constantly working with 100s of watts of heat from the main motherboard alone, so a few watts less will do nothing. It was designed with HDDs so it'll continue to run fine.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatYeah but placebo effect make brain happy
@@ReverieFlows i love your reply.
@@LoneWolff892 I love your reply even more
This is just wrong, SSD's run hotter than HDD's.
If you have a backwards compatible, especially an A01 or B01, this makes the most amount of sense for loading up a BUNCH of PS2 games to the internal storage! Makes it where you don’t have to go look for discs or worry about wearing out lasers!
Even if you're running slim models you can back up Ps2 discs and run the games off ISO's stored in the harddrive, its NUTS
I was hesitant to upgrade from my fat model because i was misconstrued into believing i would be locked out of PS2 games but she may now rest safely while i run my slim to bone😖
@@HollowedCrow Yeah, but compatibility is a bit hit and miss, around 10% of my PS3 collection doesn't work on my PS3 slim (I have ~180 games, 15-20 have various types of issues, or straight up don't load).
PS3 compatibility is 100% between the fat and slim models.
@@joemamr710 Sorry, my bad, I meant compatibillity of the PS2 games (and my PS2 collection) on PS3 slim.
i don't get it...
I recently upgraded my PS3 with an SSD and although it only makes a marginal difference to load times due to SATA 1 speeds, it makes a MASSIVE difference to both the snappiness of the XMB and level streaming in game. When playing GTA 4, it used to take about 7 seconds to load in everything around me and nothing would load in when travelling at massive speeds, now everything loads almost instantaneously and traversal stutter is completely gone
Comment a little late, but without a doubt the game that benefited most from SSD on the PS3 was Final Fantasy 14, and I'm not even talking about loading times but rather about real influence on the game. There were cases of NPCs, enemies, or players not loading because the PS3's HDD couldn't support a game of this scale, and to be honest, just having this game run on the PS3 was incredible.
But the SSD really made an absurd difference, I recommend anyone interested in the subject to take a look at a comparison.
People always state “it cant take advantage of the hardware”.
Those people have no clue, what they are talking about.
The menu is improved, pop in is improved, and the screening tearing is gone. So the major complaints are gone.
Any game that needs internal storage will see a massive difference. Far Cry for example is such a big difference. The SSD will always perform better.
GTA V being installed on the SSD only huge difference in performance, and load times.
Im not sure what SSD I put in my PS3 super slim. But theres not really load times.
Im doing the same thing to my PS4 to increase its performance, & mainly storage.
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
Thanks for hard drive lessen. The PS3 does have a rebuild database option though in safe mode.
So it actually can defragment the hdd or ssd or sshd, whatever you put in it.
But older toshiba hdds are prone to failure back in the day. 😢
@@jaimeerobertswarz even if they have defragment , u never know where physical data are placed , there is different type of defragmentation methode , some are just '' deplacing the data without gap on the disk , without store them from file to same folder , that mean a folder can contain file near ( a bunch of photo by exemple ) stored in end of disk and other file in start of disk , even if they near in the folder , that mean the head will have to move for search them for start to end ( big seek acces ) some defragmente will place the data from a same folder physicaly near in the plater disk , it's more long and windows never do that by exemple ( some program do ) it's like at home u can have box of apple and box of peach fully stored in place in your kicthen but they still not in the order bewteen box they still mixed , but they are stored in same '' room '' it's exaclty same , if u want force a game to be stored at better place u have to delete all , hdd place the data in empty place by priority
@@pochul do you think its safe on a PS4 Pro using an 1tb SSHD 7200 rpm with 8gb catche to rebuild the database every month? Or is that potentially decreasing the sshds lifespan?
Because I see all these videos stating speed up your ps4 or ps4 by rebuilding the data base all the time. Im like are you sure? Because like you stated it will need to find the files all over again. So in theory wouldnt it make the console slower the more you do it?
@@jaimeerobertswarz i don't think it's will chance sshd are diffrent , they just put data on SSD when they read a lot the same file often, on the fly , u can'"t controle which data are in the ssd part , it's acting like a caching/buffer in ram but on the nand portion , not like a real ssd
Two things to note about the installation of fear 3. It's either a limitation of the BluRay drive or a limitation of the SATA generation that both HDD and SSD are connected to. It's likely that it's a little of both. Even HDDs saw an improvement in performance shifting from SATA 3 gbps to SATA 6 gbps
If I recall correctly, the PS3 had SATA 1.0 (1.5Gbps, or 150MBps.)
Very well done video : straight to the point, with summary at the end. Thanks Sir!
Thank you for the nice comment. I am glad you liked the video. Cheers
I’ve had an SSD in my ps3 for a while now, the ssd REALLY helps with LittleBigPlanet 3. LBP2 also gets helped out with the SSD
what good is LBP on PS3 if all the servers are shut down? you making levels to play with your friends locally? playing the story?
I just made a track in LBP karting for the first time in like 10 years, but LBP Karting at least does not have a working PS4 game as a replacement.
@@gamerguy425 there’s custom servers for LBP1, LBP2, LBP3, and LBP Vita.
Karting is a WIP.
@@w0lf4llo84how is it with games like gta5 or the last of us?
@@Unlucky1776 TLOU I’ve noticed it load in about 5-10 seconds, GTA5 still takes some time to load but if you’re going very fast you won’t deal with objects randomly appearing in front of you as they typically would with the stock HDD.
@@w0lf4llo84 wow 5-10 seconds?! On my base PS3 it takes nearly 5 minutes just to start a chapter...
I had a spare HDD and SSD (both 1tb) laying about and put the HHD in my PS3 slim because I heard that unless games were digital or very hard drive bound, the results are negligible. Granted that was before I got games like GT5 and GT6. Thanks for the video to show differences!
hard drives are serviceable if you don't mind waiting, but if it's capable of taking an ssd you should probably put one in. The only systems that I don't think would benefit from an ssd are really old systems where their slow cpu is the bottleneck, something like a ps2 or older if it has storage. The original xbox also I think would barely benefit at all from an ssd. The main benefit in these cases is just the increased reliability and noise reduction from an ssd
@@HearMeLearn It benefits PS2 as well if you are using OPL, for example, due to seek times.
Thank you for making this video to compare, I have always been curious on how well an SSD will work in a PS3. Now I have to change my drive out lol
I love seeing this done on a console, one of my ultimate favorite things to do when I get new hardware is just load up games from upwards of 20 years ago just to see how snappy the load is and the frame rate go bonkers.
I installed an ssd years ago the added benefit is that you have a ton of free space. Remember guys games were a lot smaller (storage) than they are today! I still have the PS3 today and it still works great.
Absolutely. Games were below the 10gb/15gb limit for the discs and games, Xbox 360 were usually under 10Gb (near the 7/8gb mark, and Nintendo Wii is near the same amount of gigabytes (4/5gbs) as the ones from the PS2 & Xbox 2001 console (aka Original Xbox, The First Variation of the Xbox console).
If there are SSDs you can get that are 4Tbs, you can fit the entire PS3 library, including PS2 and PS1, and still be able to play these games with excellent storage capacity and speed.
@@SuperFlashDriverThere’s no way you’re fitting the entire PS3 library of games on a 4TB drive.
@@Wally17. I have a 10TB/20TB drive if necessary.
@SuperFlashDriver ps3 is limited to under 2TB as it uses MBR. You can use 1tb internal (safer then the 1.5tb mod) and get external hdd to load your isos using webman irisman
@@mannyjoseph4520 Ahhh you were talking about the console...Sorry, I must have talked about emulation...Sorry for the confusion. But I would say it would have to be separate TB hard disk drives to switch back and fourth for different game installs then (If I end up having more than twenty games or so to play on the actual PS3 console).
I installed an SSD in my ps3 super slim in 2015. At that time, I suggested that it was worth it. The SSD I used was a cheap lower end one. The SSD is still in there, working like a champ. Still no issues after all these years. Granted, this all was published on a website that shut down nearly 5 years ago. I'm glad to see that people are trying new things with the devices they have.
Even in online gaming on SSD is crazy..
Nice work! I have a 480GB SSD in my PS3. Load times are good (and the XMB is very snappy). I might try to copy the data into a 2.5-inch HDD (either with the backup utility or Acronis) in order to compare loading times. I don't plan to compare install times thought.
Same here. Kingston 480GB SSD brand.🎉
Always wanted to do this project myself with my own fat PS3 but sadly I had no controllers and eventually gave up, glad to see someone else had the idea and uploaded it.
Bro is so passionate about games and technology that got me thinking about going back to my PS3 and give it the SSD treatment along with getting a FEAR 3 copy lol Thanks for the video
I fitted a cheap 256GB one years ago, when prices got so low they were peanuts. All modem SATA SSDs would saturate PS3's SATA interface, it was always the random read and write that made PS3 so much faster in XMB. It sped up installation and loading in several games, helping out MGS4 and Gran Turismo 5 in my own tests. GT6 had several infamously huge patches that could crash PS3 if you didn't install one at a time- with an SSD it could manage it all at once.
I recently had this question. I vaguely remember finding an answer but I'm glad I was recommended this video. Thank you!
It runs cooler with an SSD.
Yes I’ve noticed MUCH less fan noise and you also hear no noise from the Hard Drive as there is no disc in a SSD. XMB is much snappier and the PSN store actually works. Installation of data is WAY faster and I’ve noticed games like Arkham Orgins has less hitching when auto saving.
Not a crazy big improvement, but overall the little things all add up and just makes the quality of life experience much better. And SSD’s are so cheap now there isn’t really a reason not too. I got a 1TB Samsung SSD for the PS3 for about 80bucks
Thanks this is what I was curious about. Anything I can do to reduce the fan noise is worth it to me
Good video, informative and concise. Also, thanks for the timestamps.
For a 512gb ssd for only 20 bucks I said why not? Jus last week I started thinking of updating the old 250 drive.
320 gb is enough if u play no moded console , as on ps3 it's often semi install game for the game of end of era , 2012 - 2017 game from start era 2006 - 2011 , won"t install anything ( of physical ) they was rare
wow they used Swap Meet by Nirvana in the main menu of Motorstorm Pacific Rift, never noticed that before. Very underrated song
I enjoy how you have a little snippet of info and your own opinion with every game you use, Infamous 1 and 2 are great ways to look at the ps3 development life considering infamous 1 was a release title and infamous released near the end of the ps3 life cycle. The ps3 architecture was tricky and took longer to learn how it works compared to other consoles. I also suggest you play them in order, the story would make more sense
Thanks. I want to play both games all the way through.
I've been using a 1TB SSD on my hacked PS3 for years, it's easily worth it IMO
Hey Champ, all of my ps3 videos are using the Samsung EVO 870 1tb and I use hardware upscaling too. Last thing, if you want the absolute best from the ps3, the RSX must be overclocked. Ive tried a few and the 750Mhz boost is just excellent 🥊🥊🔥🙏
Hiii
How you overclock rsx
@@JadenMinterO5Jailbreaking. You need a CFW (Custom Firmware) with an overclocked edition. Preferably EVILNATS 4.90 CEX or DEX Overclocked Edition.
What lots of people dont talk about is the fact that while the PS3 has a SATA port its actually converted from USB 3.0 So you are getting really slow speeds from that SATA slot. Maybe a PS3 Slim fixed it giving native SATA but i doubt it. Second, one of biggest benefits of using a SSD is going to the PS store and navigation everything is smooth as butter while the HDD takes forever to load stuff up and menus are chugging alone. Lastly what no one online talks about is Textures. Look at a game like boarderlands or something that is trying to stream data. You will have things loading in late. With an SSD everything loads in clear. The PS3 was an interesting system that quite frankly got cut back to save money that it really hurt it in the end. Im more excited to see emulation in the next 5 years making these games run like they should have.
usb 3 don't existed in 2006 , when ps3 was created
i played gta 3 in 2013 and with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n 80 gb model ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
I cannot express enough how much I love that shirt.
Thanks. It was swag from a tech conference I went to a while ago.
upgraded mine modded to 1TB SSD. love it
I've been pondering this question for years now, thank you.
Good video! I really liked how you showed and told some information about each game!
Bro is just out here doing gamer science and being a wholesome individual. Keep it up 🫡
there's other benefits besides loading times. when GTAV released, i couldn't even properly play it on the PS3. pop-ins while driving made it unplayable. whole buildings and trees would just appear out of nowhere, because of how slow the old HDD streamed data. threw in an SSD, and i was able to play the game to completion just fine.
that's cool.
What model ps3 did you have?
i played gta 3 in 2013 and stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 piece of laoding , bcuz data is more near , an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
@@hunterinfected6 one of the launch ones that could play ps2 games. i have also tried this with the super slim, same results.
I've run SSD''s in my PS3 for over a decade. I used to use the Play TV accessory that turned the PS3 into a DVR. Using a SSD made a huge difference in the responsiveness of the UI, especially when it came to deleting files or performing other tasks while the device was recording.
The biggest argument against using a SSD is the fact that the PS3 doesn't support TRIM. This will likely result in a shorter life span for the SSD. But a lot will come down to how often you use the PS3. And in todays age where you can jailbreak the PS3 to backup everything, having the SSD fail isn't a huge issue, more an inconvenience. However, as mentioned, I ran a 120gb Samsung SSD in my PS3 for many years with heavy use without any issues. It still works today.
I know this video is a year old, but I had read sometime towards the end of the PS3 lifespan that in addition to some quicker load times as you demonstrated here, that games that requires swap space for assets stored on the drive would show benefits as well. I remember the first RAGE when I played it and still had a spinning HDD in the PS3. The texture load in alone was pretty brutal in that game. But after putting in the SSD, the texture loads were almost non existent. I'be bee installing SSDs in most all of my storage based consoles since. Including one in my PS4 Pro and even my PS2. Am I getting the performance of the SSD on most of these consoles? No, but the added benefits you have shown in addition to many other mentioned in previous comments are why I did.
Just to let you know, you don't need multiman open while copying your game via FTP. You can just get your PS3 IP and just connect and copy files without even touching multiman. Although, I do have webman mod installed, so this might be the reason, I can't confirm. Anyway, multiman still puts a slight load on the console and I prefer not running it for 2 hours while I copy stuff.
Amazing work
Thank you! Cheers!
Storage capacity wise, it seems like a good investment. The loading speed increase is just a plus. I've heard the PS4 going from mechanical drive to SSD has similar kinds of results.. so its pretty much getting limited due to the bus speeds. Its definitely a good upgrade from running games off disc though. I remember during the PS2 era, having the network adapter with a HDD to store games (and HDloader) was a huge upgrade. One of the longest loading games I had played for PS2 was DBZ budokai, which literally had 1+ minute load times going from character select to a fight. This became about 10~15 seconds running from HDD.
5200rpm HDD really does drag compared to solid state
Certain instances seem to also be limited by the CPU and ram prioritizations due to the PS3's optimization.
gt6 is bad exemple the game is full of small file , small file is make reading more slow tha same among of data in 1 big file , that why this game is slow to install too on ps3
Honestly such a cool video! Thanks for making my day, I woke up to this and took my first cup of coffee 🥰
I installed an ssd in my ps3 slim and honestly I couldn’t tell the difference 🤷♂️
This is a great video, it's what sold me on grabbing an SSD for my PS3 rather than relying on the stock drive. I ended up grabbing a 512GB one and it fits every single game I ever wanted to play on it!
Regarding the Gran Turismo 6 portion where the icons load in, playing Destiny on PS3 is the same way. Pressing start opens the menu, where by default on the HDD all the icons slowly load in and make the system laggy until they're finished. On SSD, they load in nearly instantly, letting me swap weapons in under a second. It's life-changing!
This was a great video
Really interesting
My brother was an early adopter of SSDs....he had a 32GB SSD but he didn't pay $699 for it...I think he bought it when it was like $300...I thought he was crazy for paying $300 for 32GB when you could get like a 250GB or 320GB mechanical drive for about half that....but at the same time I wasn't into PC gaming at that time....What I used a PC for was very light...web browsing, listening to music and watching videos. About 6 years ago I got into PC gaming and realized how important an SSD really is...I had a laptop with a 512GB SSD and 1TB mechanical drive and put my AAA games on the SSD and put stuff like emulators, ROMs, music and movies on the mechanical drive. Now I just have an SSD in my laptop and just need more space for everything I do on it...
Exactly what I was looking for! Great video mate!
some games have issues with SSD on PS3 and since the Biggest drive without going through hoops you can install is 1TB going with an SSHD is the best solution for PS3 sure some games will load several seconds faster but some won't so considering you only get this with of course the issues some games has it's not worth it
I really liked the tone and warmth of the video, informative video.
Thanks for the comment and feedback. I appreciate it.
I don’t know man I feel like you’re not getting all of Metal Gear Solid 4 unless you get to sit and watch Snake chain smoke for way too long.
Now that made me laugh! 🚬
For GT 6 in practice you might not notice that much, the game loads the map as you tune your car, so if you are used to tuning your car before racing, it will be almost instantaneously, just try it, open the start race menu and wait a few seconds before pressing to start, it will take less time to load as it would have already loaded part of it
Surprised it actually makes a difference. Guess I’m gonna upgrade my ps3. Been playing on all my old consoles recently since gaming seems to be all about battle royale online or service based these days.
Nice to know it wont make as much difference as i thought it might
an SSD was a must for me when i had a PS3 back in the day to make the menu snappier and playing games like Skyrim
Note on the write speed differences. The no-name SSD used in the video is absolutely lowest shelf category and DRAMless, so with a non QLC drive with DRAM the console would perform way-way better most likely in the ftp scenario for example
Great video. My favourite console and it's great to see people pushing the limits.
Thanks. It was a fun project to test it out.
Good thing I saw this the same week I decided to finally open up my Backwards compatible ps3 for the first time since 2009 for cleaning, refreshing the paste and all that, I remember back in 201...3? I changed the stock HDD for a higher capacity one and never touched it again but now, with cheap ssds, and considering I refreshed it all up, might just buy an ssd and chuck it there.
Cheers! Glad to hear you are maintaining these aging machines too.
While the older SATA versions make it less dramatic compared to swapping on PC, for sure there is benefit as they still load faster not having moving parts and can actually saturate the bus (if I recall, HDDs won't max out SATA).
I installed an SSD into my PS3 back in 2010 using a 128Gb.
System remained cooler longer, faster install & level load times, less jaggies, & smoother gameplay.
I installed an SSD in my base & Pro PS4 as well.
I swapped out the HDD with a 1TB Samsung SSD in my PS4 Pro and it made a huge difference; however, I’d like to do the same with my launch day PS3.
Awesome video, bro!
I installed a ssd in my ps3 too. The big thing holding back the ssd speed is the ps3 sata controller which a sata I. The iops are way better than a spinning hdd.
While an SSD does make a marginal difference in speed alot of these comments are from ppl or have no idea what they're talking about 😂
Ssd don'd spin down and spin back up. There is no head looking for data. Everything is reading instantly.
I installed an SSD (1TB Crucial MX500) in my PS4 at the end of 2020 and have been happy with it. So last summer, when I spotted the 500GB model of the MX500 selling for just £30 on Amazon UK, I thought I'd upgrade my PS3 Slims 160GB HDD. And I've been happy with the results, like the PS4 the PS3 UI feels, for lack of a better term, snappier on an SSD.
It was cheap enough where I figured it would be worth it either way, and as I run stock OS (ie not CFW), 500GB is plenty of space for me personally. When I did the backup & restore, I only had about 40-50GB of data, so was able to use a 64GB USB stick. It took about 2.5hrs for the backup then 90m for the restore.
I know that with an SSD you may eventually run into issues, due to the lack of TRIM support. But personally I always keep save backups etc. so it's less of a concern and you could always do a backup to a spare USB HDD and then restore that, if/when you ran into issues.
Also for those on CFW looking to maximise the storage, there's conflicting info whether the PS3 supports max of 1TB or 1.5TB. But a 1TB HDD or SSD is probably a safer bet.
As for what SSD to pick, some will suggest any cheap SSD as the PS3 is only SATA 1, but I'm not so sure. Cheaper SSDs typically have no DRAM cache, which can effect performance & lifespan, and may even have slower writes than a HDD. All I can say is my PS3 & PS4 run well on the MX500 drives, so those are what I'll typically recommend.
max without moded ps3 is 1.5 tb hdd , i ever try , if u want use 2 tb drive u have to cloning 1.5 tb on 2 tb first bcuz ps3 is not capable to manage or partitionnate 2 tb drive , but 1.5 tb is not easy to have and often slow , 1 TB is overkill without CFW , i same of you my ps3 is not hacked and 500 and 320 gb is far enough
don't worry life of ssd are used by writing and not by reading , if u not install 50 game per day u will never use ur lifespan into a ps3 , ps3 only write when save ( some Few megabyte per save ) and at install , never during the gameplay , you ssd will live 20 year without problem inside a ps3 , even a ps4 ( although a ps4 can have more writing than ps3 ) so don't worry , 1 tb ssd can be use 300 tb of writing , will u ever write 300 tb of game on ps3 ? that mean writing the disk fully everyday for 1 year lol , impossible ps3 is to slow for write 1 tb per day
it's will last 15 year more , my ssd kingston v300 , 120 gb is still run fine on my pc now i bought 12 year ago with my ps3 , my ps3 was die already 2 time since this time , but my ssd still fine 47 TB of reading and almost 30 tb of writing for almost 12 year
i put sandisk 60 on my ps3 fat ( ps2 compatible ) 5 year ago , and my ps4 got ssd in 2020 ( silicon power A55 , 512gb ) they still run fine
dram cache do'nt affect the reading , it's only when u writing/installing , as when u install game on ps3 u can northing else during this process ( is not a pc ) , it's totaly useless to have dram ssd in ps3 ,it's wont install your game faster , ps3 is limited by is acces network , even with fiber i never go faster than 5 or 6 mb/sec of donwloading on ps3 , the network even 1gbps is locked around 50 mbs/s not even the half of ethernet 100 mb , 1gps network on ps3 is totaly useless if if ps3 is compatible ethernet 1 gbps ( maybe for transfert console to console ) or sony restrained the network now maybe
Motorstorm bro, what a good game. PS3 did a lot more for gaming than you guys give it credit for
SSDs made the original Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One / X, PS4 / Pro better consoles anyway.
A major overhead factor in load speeds for most PS3 games is the decompression of assets. It doesn’t really matter how fast read speeds are if the data being read isn’t immediately useable, and virtually every PS3 game was made with some form of data compression, even on disc-based games (for some reason), meaning that data can’t just be directly streamed off of the disc, and therefore not off the hard drive either (and any data stored on the drive normally by the game would have been encrypted anyway). This is why PS5 games tend to be significantly larger than their PS4 counterparts - files are uncompressed specifically to minimize load times by eliminating the decompression step on anything that could be needed “instantly” or on-demand. It’s a HUGE difference in philosophy but one that could only be made possible by requiring an SSD. That’s why there’s diminishing returns on older consoles which were never even designed with SSDs in mind.
ps5 are encrypted file too , kraken compression but a chip specialy made for that is used , it's not cpu who uncrypt , even regular ssd now are fully encrypted inside ( kingston by exemple ) , but it's cannot be seen by user , what is made slow in ps3 is the chunk of small file , that why gt6 is so slow for install , the game is full of small file , hdd are not good when file are small , it's add more acces time
gta 5 use streaming of bluray directly for by exemple reading music of radio , if u put cover of ur ps3 open and slow the drive bluray with your finger the music will have skipping like a cd audio , that mean ps3 is fully capable to read on the fly from bluray disk , but it's not used often just for older game or mid game era 2006 -2011 , after that ps3 start to have semi install for end gen game ( 2011-2017 game )
One thing that you might have not considered in testing is memory compression and decompression. With an SSD textures pop instantly with the highest resolution possible, while with a hard drive they took a split second, it was noticeable. I remember finding this with Borderlands when turning around.
All in all, an SSD in your PS3 is the best investment you can make if you like the console. It's not my favorite, and it's actually one of my least played consoles, but it definitely has a solid catalog that would benefit from an investment in a 1tb or 2tb sata SSD. Just for advice: look for some that has cache, the less expensive ones don't have it and it's noticeable, I think that the extra ten bucks are worth it.
Great video. I had an SSD in my PS3, and it was definitely faster. I think the myth that SSD doesn't really help PS3 comes from the old days, when SSD drives were really expensive. Nowadays, when they're as cheap as they are, it's really a no-brainer to install one in your console.
The main question I have is this: what kind of SSD did you purchase? Was it one with a DRAM Cache and high quality NAND? Or was it a cheap no-name SSD. Because some SSDs can perform worse than a hard drive if they’re made too cheaply.
That depends on your budget. Do some research before the purchase.
@@mindrover777 around $30 can get you a good sata SSD with either a dram or slc cache. But, the market is also flooded with extremely poorly made ssds that sometimes are slower than a hard drive. No matter the budget, I was just curious on which one was used in the video. Also, to anybody seeing this: do not buy any WD Blue SATA SSDs - after having to deal with the horrendous speeds while trying to explain to friends and customers about why their computer is being slow with a newly purchased SSD, I had explain this exact principle.
I have a sony Frankenstein backwards compatible ps3 with oc cfw and a 1tb ssd. Makes the ps3 run like you remember not like how it actually does
After 2 years of having hhd, they started to lose games, and even one stopped working. SSD hasn't given me any issues. Never going back.
Interesting. Some of those HDDs are almost 20 years old now so unfortunately I can see why many of them start fail now, even when they may have spent most of their time powered off due to their magnetic properties.
@pathfindercast I thought I wouldn't have any problems because of what others have said. Maybe I have an hdd death touch. Acquaintance brought me his 10 dollar 1tb hhd, and it would read. Then I even brought it best buy, and they couldn't figure out either. I noticed some people don't like ssd, but I think they're going by old information.
this guy looks so friendly, i like him
The best way to play Infamous is mostly in order: Infamous, Infamous 2, Infamous: Festival of Blood, Infamous: First Light, Infamous: Second Son 😊
oooh. I didn't realize there were five release. Looking them up now. Thanks!
It would be interesting to see if there was a frame rate improvement in games with asset streaming, like open world titles.
I did this to both of my original ps3s but didn’t do it to my super slim because it runs cooler than both and runs fine with the hard drive it has “500gb”
Nice. Yah the original 20GB and 80GB HDDs are so small nowadays. The 500gb drives can allow a lot more games to install on the drive.
Well I have a 500 gb and she's full 😂😂😅
Hey OP, while loading from the disc vs SSD, were you loading the disc with an HDD installed, or an SSD? Playing Payday 2 with a disc + SSD in my PS3, I still load into an online map much faster than everyone else.
Great question. I did have an HDD installed, but it was completely full and therefore no disc space for the game. I would imagine that loading from disc + SDD with enough free space would give some performance improvements.
@pathfindercast some games, like GTAV, utilize loading of installed hard drive data but also streaming off the disc at the same time to efficiently load assets. A digital copy of GTAV loads slower on ps3/360 than using a disc copy with data installed.
Considering how inexpensive SSDs are now, it's definitely worth it. Beyond improving loading times, it eliminates the lag that occurs when populating menu lists in both the XMB and in-game. No more disk seek!
The size of the hardrive would also affect the performance, he did not mention if the HD used was brand new or the size and rpm speeds on the video, if you tried to pick the fastest HD drive at the max supported size for the ps3, the difference in performance should become minimal as the cap becomes the conector, I believe the ps3 must use something equivalent to a IDE conector with 150mbs or a sata 2 with 300mbs
@@3750gustavo these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec )
is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 hdd ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed 1 TB model ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , ( i bough Ssd 120 gb at this time for 20£ more than this 1 Tb hdd ( i still use it in my pc after almost 12 year and it's run by the way kingston V300 if u want know )
but ssd is far more better i agree , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density per surface ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 attempt of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly , the head will move '' less ''
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first data will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( where hdd is more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move
, it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
I have a PS3. Thank you for the video. I will go ahead with the SSD installation now. subscribed
if u don't need more capacity u can cloning ssd from hdd on ps3 ( ps4 wont work bcuz ps4 read the number serial of hdd for know when u change hdd friom the console ) and serial number is not cloned during process ( it's stored on chip ) , but on ps3 it's work if u cloning hdd on same machine of course ( cloning 500 gb by exemple on 512 gb ssd ) won't require any install , but u can't gain any capacity if u cloning 250 gb on 500 gb Sdd u will only have 250 gb perfect replica , u won't be able to gain full capicity or realocate some free space , for that u need fresh reinstall
Great content man! Keep it up! So many awesome details.
Never cracked the ps3 kinda, so now I guess I should do that also
If you like Infamous 2 then you should try the DLC Blood Festival. I think at time of writing it is still able to be purchased/downloaded.
Cool. I will look for it.
i just borught the infamous collection on ps3 store. i know i had infamous and infamous 2. some reason infamous stopped working, so i brought hte collection to have festival and all the other dlcs
there is uneven time stamp calculation between both version. on SSD you wait 5 more seconds when picking up main menu due "first time introduction info screen come up" on the HDD side you don't get this because you were played it before. so it should be 01:38+5 more second and on SSD side 01:07-5 second if you want to match with HDD version
Edit: The part I point is here: 01:51
I wish this video this video was around when I updated my HDD a few years ago. I was was planning to swap for an SSD anyway because my new 5400rpm drive made the console louder than the stock drive but most of what I'd read said that even upgrading to a 7200rpm drive would just increase noise and heat with minimal gain. Most of my games are digital anyway. Oh well, I guess.
This upgrade has 2 other bonuses that makes it worth it the XMB Menu works better but also games perform slightly better not just loading faster but actually playing closer to what they should've played as since the console doesn't have to allocate as many resources to loading the game anymore once its loaded its loaded
Great test! 15~30 seconds per load time it's great!
I got an SSD just so the XMB would quit stuttering, the hard drives used even in the PS3 slims are way way worse than the ones eventually used in the PS4. The loading times in games are not that bad but it's the responsiveness that really counts
these ps3 hdd are alos very bad from 2006 to 2008 than last Hdd from by exemple 2012's hdd
here my exemple :
i played gta 3 in 2013 with stock Hdd from 2008 ps3 ( my ps3 was from 2008 n hdd toshiba mx made in 2008 ) extremely slow hdd ( 50-65 mb/sec ) is more slower than Hdd made in 2012 by exemple , i changed my ps3 for 1 tb hdd from 2012 ( blue western with 120 mb/Sec of speed ) at this time and it's was already better than poor 80 gb stock Hdd , but ssd is far more better , don't forget than 1 gb Hdd have more density per inch than 80 gb hdd ( almost 12 x more density ) that mean that platter will have less '' space ''' between 2 pacces of laoding , bcuz data is more near physicaly ,
an hdd is always faster also when it's emply than full ( the first date will fast but to newest data will be slower ) , because data is placed on the outer zone first ( more fast ) , where more speed reading is maximal , innner center zone of Hdd is more slow ( less density ) that why if u install gt5 in fresh empty hdd itt's better than when ur ps3 is full after so many year and 20 game already installed before him , data will be placed installed in lower density and inner zone of disk ( the end of disk ) , where is more slow too , the head of hdd have also less Cm/inch to move , it's can reduce the acces time ( not same ssd of course ) if your game is installed in fresh disk empty ( as u cannot partitionate hdd ps3 ) it's the only way to force your ps3 to put the outer zone data where u want ,
so install your big game first on empty disk , and install the small game after at end where low density is not a problem for play ,, as ps3 have not defragmentation system , if u want your data is installed in outer zone of your disk with faster reading area , u have to delete all first game and reinstall the '' big game '' first ,i recomand to install game open world first , all these game where texture can popup without loading , but on the fly loading , and after install all you small game behind
it's can really improve your ps3 even without ssd and use a big Hdd , bigger hdd can still have 120 mb/sec of transfert , ( 1 gb hdd western blue or western black , where first hdd 60 gb and 80 gb was made from toshiba ( ps3 fat ) and very slow 50-70 mb/per sec max they was alrrady not good hdd at this time compared to the last hdd in 2.5 inch
ssd have not this problem
hdd ps3 is bad for density too they was made almost 15 year ago and they was often not even reach the limit of sata 1 themself , last Hdd 2.5 , 1 Tb or 2 tb is far more faster , i guess the better HDD in 2.5 inch is almost 165 mb/sec
hdd from ps3 from 2006 by exemple it's 50-60 mb/sec of reading speed depend the brand and 35 - 45 mb /of writing
One of the biggest differences for me was dark souls 2, going from disc which loaded 20-30 seconds on deaths or teleporting to about 5 seconds with an ssd
hm Nice Video And Good Work but how it will take long to play GTA IV in a ssd from an hdd that would be epic
Great question, I just picked up both GTA IV and V for ps3 this week. I have yet to test them.
I just put one in my ps3 because retired my sata ssd from my pc cuz I got an m.2 that's 2tb cheap. So having more space than default is going to be nice in ps3
This was awesome thank you so much for this
so far i know the PS3 [FAT] only has a SATA2 Connection to the drive. so a SSD has not that big of an impact then a SATA3 Connection. sure its still a few seconds. but i would only replace the HDD for an SSD when i have a spare one left or the HDD is failing
Tekken tag 2 was pain in the ass of loading.
Infamous and Infamous 2 are just about my favorite games on the PS3. Yes, I highly recommend you play Infamous (the original) in addition to its sequel ! It would make more sense to play them in order for the storyline. It's not 100% necessity IMO
The biggest benefit to me was always gonna be Gran Turismo. Lots of small assets that need to be loaded which are scattered around with little predictability. Worst case scenario for a hdd.
It's a freaking massive improvement. So much so a few games actually perform better due to less loading pauses dragging the minimums down. It's incredible and totally worth it if you love your PS3. Get one with high endurance. I got a 500GB 860 Evo for mine and it should last the life of the console with care.
life or ssd are affected by writing only i will never install 300 tb of game inside a 1 tb hdd inside a ps3 , even if u want install fully and deleted the sdd everyday, ps3 is too slow for have 1 gb of data per day from network , that mean even with 10 % of that , ur ssd will last at last 10 x more , go for it , life is not a problem , gaming don't use ssd on ps3 , ps3 don't write during game it's only reading and save of few mb/sec wont never use the writing life of any ssd , even i try to install 1 tb per day ( if u can have so many data per day what i doubt bcuz sony server is limited around 5 or 6 mb /sec , u will never get 1 tb per 24hour ) so u can rest rassured of life of your ssd