WHO WINS? War Within Tank Tier List

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
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    The second War Within tier list is all about tanks hero talents and reworks (where they do apply) and boy do we have some insights! At this point, all war within classes have changes and we have some absolute bangers like blood dk!
    Our war within tank rankings will be based purely on what we tested on the war within beta and it will evolve both hero and spec talents. Take it with a grain of salt as every week we get waves of changes but it’s fun to rank them nevertheless!
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  • @MarcelianOnline
    @MarcelianOnline  26 дней назад +4

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  • @Jbehan1994
    @Jbehan1994 26 дней назад +28

    Could you do something like a "which spec feels the most fun/aesthetically pleasing", closer to release?

  • @tassiopbc
    @tassiopbc 26 дней назад +36

    ranged tierlist wait room!

    • @Jbehan1994
      @Jbehan1994 26 дней назад +2

      I bet its healers next to mess with us

    • @steffren
      @steffren 26 дней назад +4

      Inb4 fire mage S+++

    • @foecommitted
      @foecommitted 25 дней назад +1

      Mage SSS+++ Goku tier

    • @TankingPriestVideos
      @TankingPriestVideos 12 дней назад

      I think will have to wait quite a while for that

  • @DrPlonk
    @DrPlonk 26 дней назад +4

    Do you just put as little as neccessary to kinda play on the bars or is it just that much better in TWW? Because especially on Brewmaster you have rather little abilities slotted. Would love if that would become more standard.

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +7

      Brew received a rework where it took away some of the button bloat, was also surprised, but I do make a point to never take RJW even if it's good, fuck that and all it stands for

  • @Nico-dp7bq
    @Nico-dp7bq 25 дней назад +2

    i hope so hard we get titanic throw as prot warriors back dont know why they took it away. it was so nice to pull packs or get some snap aggro on bodypulled stuff by others.

  • @DierdreWolf
    @DierdreWolf 25 дней назад +6

    Even if Blizz ends up ignoring Bear's feedback like they always do for Beta/Alpha -- I'm still excited to be a MoonBear.

    • @fos8789
      @fos8789 22 дня назад

      but i read moonbear was doing mad dps, is that true?

  • @pallieterwow
    @pallieterwow 25 дней назад

    Gotta love the subtle editting of the "bubbels" on the head 😀 great job and great videos!

  • @FCBcubano
    @FCBcubano 26 дней назад +3

    The problem with prot warr is rage. If you aren't fighting groups it's so hard to get rage on solo targets

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +1

      Hmm, it's actually very fine on ST, but the rotation is more pretentious there, cannot mess up your priority

  • @dr.zoidberg8666
    @dr.zoidberg8666 25 дней назад +3

    Man, druids are eating so good I think I've found my main. I usually heal & Fluid Form has made catweaving so damn smooth.

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +1

      Go for it boyo, really nice upgrade from DF

  • @Ell1990
    @Ell1990 24 дня назад +1

    Recently a new brew tank and I can say it is my absolute favorite I think it’s so fun and fast paced.

  • @thunderleg6605
    @thunderleg6605 25 дней назад +7

    The last time I enjoyed Brewmaster was back in WoD...

    • @darrylloveridge9894
      @darrylloveridge9894 19 дней назад

      Season 4 Shadowlands it was actually real good. Loved playing it then

  • @MrSherhi
    @MrSherhi 24 дня назад

    Can you make earthen review? Racials testing, how big their model is etc? I tried on beta but cant create one.
    Warrior is very appealing to me as tank, can you block/parry/dodge while castong that racial ability? Nobody seems to know

  • @emjaythegreat22
    @emjaythegreat22 24 дня назад +1

    Idk I’ve said this many times verse shouldn’t be a pve stat. The mastery should be what pve uses over verse yet that isn’t the case. All pvp gear has verse on it for a reason because it makes sense for pvp. In pve your mastery stat should flavor the class like warrior crit blocking… is terrible compared to just flat verse. Guardian Druid. Mastery is worse than stacking verse. They need rework on mastery to fit the class/spec for it to actually be better in pve for them.

  • @Byhythloh
    @Byhythloh 22 дня назад +1

    Brew needs a Mastery Rework, for the last 2 expansions and looking like in WW too, it's just fallen oven in high keys. As a healer, I fear every time I join a group that has a BM.

  • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
    @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 25 дней назад +10

    Gotta say the warrior tank feels best to me.
    I like how you just run in, put up shield block and keep up ignore pain. Demo shout and you just live.
    You just simply live.
    it feels good. The other tanks have too much nonsense going on.
    bear druid is broke on beta atm, it won't be like that live.
    it'll be like it is now. quite squishy outside of big defensives.

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +2

      Numbers are always relative in these tier lists

    • @drewfyre7693
      @drewfyre7693 25 дней назад

      Why is bear broken?

    • @LuNaTiC9oNe
      @LuNaTiC9oNe 25 дней назад

      sounds boring af

    • @TheRandomDude-qy1ev
      @TheRandomDude-qy1ev 25 дней назад

      @@LuNaTiC9oNe I thought it would be too. Until I played it. It actually keeps you on your toes. Rage generation and management is a real thing. Knowing when to spend on shield block or ignore pain or revenge is a constant battle. It's actually pretty high octane.
      The other tanks are quite boring in contrast. Very linear in comparison.

  • @ArchonRahal
    @ArchonRahal 26 дней назад +5

    Brewmaster is my favourite tank so playing it on the beta has been a feelsbad compared to the others. At least Windwalker is fun tho.

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад

      Really hoping we won't have a repeat of DF where it's squishy for 2 years

    • @zergylicious
      @zergylicious 25 дней назад

      i always love brew too its a sad day. well my other main tanks are always blood and warrior so i guess ill be doing one of those barring any changes

    • @alexanderh2715
      @alexanderh2715 21 день назад

      Played it a few days in dragonflight and it's so bad :D. Button bloat and on top it gets clapped way too hard. Last season I played brew was 8.3 with tons of vers and corruptions and there it felt indestructible :D ​@@MarcelianOnline

  • @davidserra6206
    @davidserra6206 25 дней назад

    Have you tried with Fel-Scarred DH with 8sec jump (Infernal Strike) talents? No illuminated sigil.
    I feel like it is very fun and powerful. In my opinion the most mobile tank.

    • @chadfuller3157
      @chadfuller3157 25 дней назад +2

      And being mobile could be a big factor in some weeks with the new affixes meshing with the last tier of affixes. I've been playing no spirit bomb with frailty, feed the demon and fiery brand spread and feel extremely tanky on beta.

  • @Alithia451
    @Alithia451 26 дней назад

    Pls make more deep dive videos as you did with Destro. Shadow Priest, Devastation Evoker, and MM/BM Hunter would be nice.

  • @ImLuckyPunk
    @ImLuckyPunk 22 дня назад

    Will ya guys make a War within healer tier / hero list aswell?

  • @ibbatta
    @ibbatta 19 дней назад

    Did you already put a healer tier list online?

  • @mrj5202
    @mrj5202 25 дней назад +2

    I feel like with prot paladin they just need to make concentration baked in to another skill

    • @Melethrion
      @Melethrion 6 дней назад

      like as it is with ret right, i thought so, too

  • @jasond1433
    @jasond1433 25 дней назад

    You guys are mind readers. I was just wondering how the tanks were looking in War Within, because I always main shaman, but some sort of tank is my first alt. I log in this morning and this video was waiting. Thanks!

  • @wapix2440
    @wapix2440 26 дней назад

    Do you think ,that the Blood DK will be so much fun, that I should HAVE to play it again? (Playing it only since DF Season 1)

    • @Dan-jo3gr
      @Dan-jo3gr 26 дней назад +2

      I play BDK from shadowlands on and I also play it actually on Beta and it is fun 😊 new things Like The blood beast you summon is realy cool 😎

  • @nicolaild
    @nicolaild 25 дней назад +1

    this seems crazy to me, i've not played the beta myself but i've watched a lot of content on youtube and all tank videos i've watched is saying brewmaster is the big winner and brewmaster is looking to be the best tank along with DK so i'm really confused when i then see this video and it's almost flipped upside down as most other youtubers are also saying druid is looking weak and as the big loser so yeah just overall confused by this list xD

    • @reiga6062
      @reiga6062 25 дней назад +1

      From what Ive understood brew is a winner if they fix the stagger scaling cos all the new talents and stuff are huge for brew.

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n 26 дней назад

    Brewmaster was going to be my main in TWW, but I will definitely rethink it if they don't fix it.

  • @Mboyd203
    @Mboyd203 26 дней назад +12

    MY BREWMASTER 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @andrewthomas817
      @andrewthomas817 26 дней назад +2

      It was to be expected. Blizzard hates brew lately I mean they nerfed us while being last

    • @gerritmorisse2195
      @gerritmorisse2195 26 дней назад +3

      Wait a minute, iwait
      for equinox to post some updates with his M+ testing. So far master of harmony is king in dungeons.

    • @Sheriff_K
      @Sheriff_K 25 дней назад +1

      I hear Brew/Blood are both top tier in TWW.

    • @twan7429
      @twan7429 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@Sheriff_K Yeah its all opinion based and what skill level you are , and your experience with brew in general. Sha, Equinox have both said BDK and Brew are looking very very strong. I've tried it myself with multiple builds and can contest compared to previous seasons it is MUCH better. My guess this tier list is heavily based on how much you push/how easy to pick up and be successful, etc. Being that brew has been known to be one of the hardest tanks to learn its never going to be S tier unless you literally can smash your face on the keyboard and still survive. (I.e VDH). If you want an actual opinion on the current states of the tanks watch a TIer list from a person that solely Mains tank and is successful in those classes,
      those are the best based on tanking the lists into consideration

    • @Assywalker
      @Assywalker 25 дней назад

      You really should not listen to anyone but Equinox, when it comes to Brewmaster.
      He is literally the best on this spec in the world and makes YT content about it.

  • @mazeomaze3070
    @mazeomaze3070 8 дней назад

    what about equinox tanking 12s on war within on hes brewmaster ?

  • @sozellicus
    @sozellicus 22 дня назад

    You’re convincing me to start my tank arc in TWW as a prot warrior

  • @Gamba73
    @Gamba73 25 дней назад

    i'm main dh Tank since they pop in game ...some season bad some good and of course the last 2 top ...but what change for destroy (for now ? ) this class (again ...yes again ...if u had play all the time dh u know this ...but bimbiminkia cry when is good etc etc ... )
    tnx sir

  • @comingfall6348
    @comingfall6348 5 дней назад

    Terms of raw tankiness, how woulf you rate them?

  • @JoshuaRAWRR
    @JoshuaRAWRR 24 дня назад +2

    Week ago - BLOOD DK BEST TANK SO FAR!!!!
    Today - Eh, A.

  • @tubeathrun
    @tubeathrun 25 дней назад

    Tbh, brew monk in 5.0 is the most fun tank, it is really give you the feeling of kungfu fighting rather than just looking at the health bar 😊
    Pitty for what it becomes now😢

  • @jaz3660
    @jaz3660 24 дня назад

    Critting for 2.7 mil with Demolish felt so good! I prefer the aesthetic of Mountain Thane though, feeling like Thor incarnate.

  • @gkik944
    @gkik944 26 дней назад

    well tier list for mm+ or raid?

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад

      We will have some predictions eventually :D

  • @madsboandersen5316
    @madsboandersen5316 26 дней назад +31

    Why do people keep telling us that warrior has AoE silence? They do NOT. It's an interrupt. It's so much worse and budget than other tank's utility.

    • @mrj5202
      @mrj5202 25 дней назад +4

      And on top of that they have to talent 2 points to even get it

    • @zeahlockedhyfe
      @zeahlockedhyfe 25 дней назад +6

      Because when you interrupt successfully, it silences the enemy? Lol

    • @kayjay4
      @kayjay4 25 дней назад

      I'm confused. IS is 1 point now and Shockwave

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +18

      True, it adds a 6 sec lock on that spell school which 99% of the time is the only spell school the mob has, so it might as well be a silence, but it's technically not, just force of habit :P

    • @MasonC2K
      @MasonC2K 25 дней назад

      I have always used those words interchangeable. A silence interrupts. And an interrupt silences.

  • @chriseggroll
    @chriseggroll 23 дня назад

    the feedback on the beta forums is all about how stagger scaling seems broken for brewmaster, hope they get some love. i love the idea of a drunk tank

  • @mirkogiljaca1051
    @mirkogiljaca1051 21 день назад

    Excellent tank review. Thank you.

  • @evilvash0
    @evilvash0 25 дней назад

    yeah I see season 1 being a bust for most changes that are needed and won't come till Season 2 yeah its still beta but still not enough time for any massive changes that require a major patch and honestly Season 2 really is gonna be that major patch.

  • @denisparkan7578
    @denisparkan7578 4 дня назад

    To me Vengeance got boring after they removed that small sigil you placed with infernal strike....might be a stupid opinion yeah but its just what it is.... It was so satisfying to do that... Tried to return to Vengeance multiple times and its just... not it.

  • @apsodyeu3694
    @apsodyeu3694 25 дней назад

    Wow that was surprising, i main prot pala but i also have a resto druid that i quite enjoy ,and if you say guardian druid is gona be S tier , i guess im gona have to switch hehe ty

  • @john_miller_
    @john_miller_ 25 дней назад

    Can someone tell me what the point of hero talents is, if you have enough points to choose them all?

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад

      Augments your spec, plays better, new stuff, can choose between 2 hero talent specs

    • @TheShawnMower
      @TheShawnMower 25 дней назад

      There are choice nodes within them

  • @Cmelacicek
    @Cmelacicek 24 дня назад +1

    Brewmaster is at worst B tier. Stagger and Celestial Brew was fixed already and button bloat is finally gone. I agree Shado-Pan are very sad tho.

  • @notimportant6506
    @notimportant6506 25 дней назад

    I mean... i saw you play with monk. Kinda hard to take this tierlist legit

  • @andrewthomas817
    @andrewthomas817 26 дней назад +3

    So your telling blizzard to nerf brewmaster dps more

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад +3

      Yes make sure the only difference between brewmaster and a hunter pet is the fact that you get to actually play as it

  • @Funkloving
    @Funkloving 9 дней назад

    What stops BDK from going into S Tier?

  • @Lucek-ot9zx
    @Lucek-ot9zx 25 дней назад

    I would not say Brewmaster is the weakest tank. It's just really hard and unforgiving spec

  • @randomdonny8961
    @randomdonny8961 24 дня назад +1

    these edits are fucking hilarious xD

  • @Xoliathe
    @Xoliathe 25 дней назад

    brewmaster seems to always look weak on beta stages and catches up in the release

    • @SosoXchan
      @SosoXchan 24 дня назад

      when...did it catch up? xD

  • @Mazeingpower
    @Mazeingpower 2 дня назад

    why does wowhead have bear druid as C tier for beta WW

  • @edwinduchemin1722
    @edwinduchemin1722 25 дней назад

    Always same class AT the bottom, Monk, cham, etc

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад

      Not sure what cham is, but Monk hasn't always been bottom

    • @edwinduchemin1722
      @edwinduchemin1722 25 дней назад

      ​@@MarcelianOnline tank Monk was Bad during all DF and shadowland ...

  • @khoitrieu
    @khoitrieu 25 дней назад +2

    I feel like this tier list is... poorly explained. People are going to assume strength and meta... and it obviously isn't for that. This seems to be more design and theme.

  • @John-r-Evans
    @John-r-Evans 20 дней назад

    just make consecration folow the char?

  • @gerritmorisse2195
    @gerritmorisse2195 26 дней назад +1

    So far from what I saw and I hope that they don't nerf it. Master of Harmony BRM is looking sick in m+

  • @Urgot666
    @Urgot666 25 дней назад

    Blood dk looks good

  • @Byhythloh
    @Byhythloh 22 дня назад +2

    Let Vengeance Burn! It deserves it for making all other tanks basically unpickable to pugs for 2 full seasons.

  • @jayb2432
    @jayb2432 25 дней назад +1

    Eh, still maining brewmaster

  • @mauriciorey8609
    @mauriciorey8609 25 дней назад

    Make survival hunter video!!!

  • @vjr6939
    @vjr6939 23 дня назад

    Less and less excited about tww, tho i must say i hope they dont nerf warrior again ( as they did in s1), but ofc ruining a good/fun thing is what blizz does

  • @LordHypnos4
    @LordHypnos4 25 дней назад

    Shouldn't this video wait until release?

  • @Luxumbra69
    @Luxumbra69 14 дней назад

    hard to take any of your lists seriously after i watched you put holy paladin into A tier lol

  • @Sourlife.
    @Sourlife. 25 дней назад +1

    DK is back boooiiiii...sadly the tier set sucks, losing mitigation shouldnt be the way to play..moreover BDK tier set is the only without damage buff thru tier set

    • @Chimka3139
      @Chimka3139 25 дней назад

      I mean, 12% increased overall dmg while at 12 stacks is not bad. Buffs every ability.

  • @Prayse9
    @Prayse9 25 дней назад +3

    im so sad that they scrapped the idea to give prot warrior a 2h weapon while holding a shield.. it would make so much sense thematically and give so much more flavour and uniqueness to tank warrior
    and plz blizz give warrior bloodlust

  • @grimmjowthepantera
    @grimmjowthepantera 17 дней назад

    this small interface my eyes jesus..

  • @Peakin69kek
    @Peakin69kek 23 дня назад

    Bro dk get crushed so much it isn't funny it's a yoyo

  • @ourcommonancestry6025
    @ourcommonancestry6025 25 дней назад

    I hope someone wins because pet classes (BM, DEMON Warlock, Unholy) all lost... there seems to be a complete lack of AI mechanics for the pets, they remain slow to react, even with macros, they often don't defend themselves or the caster, and there is no mention of pets in any blue post since forever. I remain seriously dissapointed in the War Within simply because the game is "Chase the tank... the fastest moving highest dps class in the game" loot dead mobs a good 3 minutes behind the healer and tank who are already on the next boss, and then when you go to PVP, get killed by the Ret pally or DH. The beta is utter garbage and deserves a refund for players enduring it.

  • @Epicjaack
    @Epicjaack 19 дней назад

    Paladin all day everyday !!

  • @carlossombrero3136
    @carlossombrero3136 23 дня назад +1

    Double sigils will make VDH meta forever until they remove it, it's too good

  • @Seph.ackerman
    @Seph.ackerman 26 дней назад

    Fun, but wayyyy too early.

  • @lefterisnotis
    @lefterisnotis 20 дней назад +1

    Hows brewmaster in D tier its literally the strongest tank with bdk in Beta XDDDD

  • @ReyRey277
    @ReyRey277 26 дней назад +1

    Paladin hero talents look very lame. Its powerful but there are like no unique effects.

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 дней назад

      I mean, not true, it's just that paladin is naturally very visually flamboyant so anything new has to be extra turbo flamby and it's not unfortunately :(

    • @ReyRey277
      @ReyRey277 20 дней назад

      @@MarcelianOnline I mean you jus admitted it is true. They are not anything special. They call it "templar" and it just sounds like they are pretending it has any meaning

  • @jameswalker6842
    @jameswalker6842 15 дней назад

    Gives no reason why druid should be S tier but puts them there anyway. lols.

  • @Brandon-vd9tv
    @Brandon-vd9tv 18 дней назад

    so... this video is completely pointless. You stated that the reason Guardian druid is S tier because you theory crafted more on it? so... the others got bumped down because you didnt put in the effort...... cool.

  • @Kai-10-
    @Kai-10- 26 дней назад

    Boo u know why

  • @evinnice3321
    @evinnice3321 18 дней назад

    God you’ll make a video about anything won’t ya 😂

  • @sergioferrada6523
    @sergioferrada6523 26 дней назад

    first xD!

  • @vjr6939
    @vjr6939 23 дня назад

    Very lame w monk

  • @Enrasgrej
    @Enrasgrej 24 дня назад

    Your tier lists has alweys been and will alweys be shit

  • @leanmachine3251
    @leanmachine3251 25 дней назад

    Blood dk alt might be my main

  • @Rons-yz5qt
    @Rons-yz5qt 25 дней назад +1

    Just clickbait. We all know Bliz sucks. They will make one or two op tanks. We, the Customers, will spend our time to level them, gear them over a period of days and weeks, then Bliz will nerf them. Horrible company.