HERE WE GO! War Within Healer Tier List
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It’s time, our latest War Within tier list is all about healer hero talents and reworks (where they do apply) and boy do we have some insights! At this point, all war within classes have changes and while some are total reworks, some are still in desperate need of attention.
Our war within healer tier list will be based purely on what we tested on the war within beta and it will involve both hero and spec talents. Take it with a grain of salt as every week we get waves of changes but it’s fun to rank them nevertheless!
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Bad timing on the Dr. Disrespect joke lol!
Honestly, healing in TWW beta feels kind of bad. They want to reduce burst damage and burst healing, but it only feels like they've reduced the healing aspect. There's a dot in mists that ticks for 1/3 of someone's health bar each tick, meanwhile a flash heal or healing surge will only heal for 5% of someone's health. I feel like the balance is way off at the moment.
Part of this is also due to the gear scaling being super low in testing so it probably wont be as bad as it feels atm
Holy paladin not in D tier is very surprising and confusing
Feels crap to play, alot of buttons with almost 0 impact.
Shud be in F tier
ikr holy priest does way better in M+ than holy paladin so i dont understand this list at all + envoker will get nerfed i did 2.3m heal crits with it >.
@@soulbound5732 Not going to deny those criticisms but Flame's list isn't throughput-based just like the tier lists for the other roles; Holy Paladin has historically always been a healer that scales very hard with secondaries and therefore is rarely in the top-half of healers at xpac launch (same way DK is never top in tanks at launch but is _always_ top at the end of an xpac). He likes how it plays, and if tuning is the only issue it is easily solved even if buffs-now equals nerfs-later when the haste kicks in. It's a much worse place to be in where a spec feels bad to play - especially if it is mechanically janky but numerically overtuned because it's just going to get nerfed anyway if it is over-performing, regardless of what cheese may be involved. In a beta environment, tuning is much less important than gameplay/mechanics because tuning is almost always performed between beta and live (or post-live even) so if numbers are low it's low-down on the list of issues in the context of a beta.
He did say it was going to be a controversial placement :p
@@graysaltine6035 fair enough, i just hope they doing the scaling/balance right this time before launch i know its a big if prob not realistic but if envoker now is the only healer that has impact in healing numbers wise that it self is a issue. And i speak only for m+ environment with holy pala u barely feel u heal unless u have pressed buttons and u most likely are oom after, holy priest have bit more impact + great dps but dps i dont care as a healer but same as holy pala the healing is better but takes allot of pressing buttons. Misteaver and restro druid are less buttons with high input and shaman i dunno got way less buttons but u more reliable on the ancestors which barely proc in order to keep party alife. Till u play envoker and all these problems above is solved with 2/3 buttons sure the playstyle is Tricky but the input is so high is crazy.
Listen... This video peaked at the ad. I laughed my ass off! My favorite ad I think I've seen on RUclips in years. Seriously funny guys! 😂
The animation for the wildstalker thorns & symbiotic blooms alone makes it insanely fun, personally I would have put resto druid in S tier after having played the beta. While Pres evokers have more through put on burst healing for sure, over all they have way fewer tools to handle chaotic situations than resto & resto pre playing is an asset once you figure it out.
How can I see heals on my character's health bar like this? Like the Shaman at 1:52``
These tiers lists need to use the tiers more as putting classes infront of eachother but all in 2 tiers doesnt make much sense. One is better, one is worse, 1 is A 1 is B.
I've been having the best time on my evoker lately, and I hope it stays pretty decent for TWW. It's really fun leveling one in Remix, too, give it a try if you haven't!
Evoker generally is really fun, be it Augmentation, Devastation or Preservation :)
19:05 - Final form of that tier list "shaped" very well
lmao
Man oh man the timing of the Dr. Disrespect reference 🫥🫥🫥😶🌫️
Exaaaactly what I was thinking.
Where i can't find it pls timestamp me
@@venumopanda3456it's at 2:08 do people not actually watch content anymore 😐
@@Frost640 i watch content that gives me something usefull
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm just gonna guess that the best healer in TWW will be mage.
Looking at the tierlist it's actually sad how few healing specs are in game. Need several more I think
After a lot of keys in beta with all healers, Evoker and Mistweaver felt best for me. No problems healing keys at all, where I sometimes struggled a little bit with others healers. But that’s just for me ☺️
I have always been a dps. I'm a fire mage main and a marksmanship hunter alt. I'm willing to change roles. I don't really feel confident enough to tank, so I'll try to be a healer in this expansion. Mistweaver monk is my pick
I love Evo heal. But in the Beta the Addon „Clique“ didnt work. So I cant heal @ Moment because I Need this addon
Fire mage main healer now?
Mass Barrier is OP, we all know it!
YOUR guys are the best ! just the video i wanted for weeks :D
More to come, so glad you enjoyed this one!
I main monk for S4 and had a lot of fun mastering fistweaving. It took me a while to get a hang of it but in the end I managed to reach 3k io. However while I had a lot of fun, being a melee healer is a big disadvantage. You can technically heal at range but you lose so much of your toolkit by doing so it doesn't feel very good. Blizzard imo should give mistweaver more range for their abilities to help mitigate this or stop designing most encounters to be an anti-meleefest.
Making a tier list right now makes less than zero sense. Some classes still have a rework coming and everyone probably has several major tuning passes still.
Prepatch only 4 weeks out bruva
Preservation being insane for this style of healing genuinely makes sense when you look at their kit, and you have to take that into account. Sustained healing from rdruid, disc priest, holy priest, etc, is all amazing (in terms of kit, not necessarily throughput for ones like hpal), but preservation is waaaay different of a playstyle. It plays more into being intelligent with how you spend your essence, and using your big mini cds in the form of Spiritbloom, Dream Breath, etc. When you are out of your big abilities, your sustain is somewhat lackluster without mana dumping. A slower paced healing environment would MASSIVELY benefit preservation due to their playstyle, since slower pace and their bigger healing cds will start to match up more. They can top health quickly, but considering they rely on things that are on 30 second cds, it's more rough in live, and way more befitting of the pace that beta brings.
Paladin should be Z tier wtf
idk about that Resto Sham in A Tier. As a long time RSham main I have it in C tier myself Lol
Why is mists of tirna sithe in so many clips? Is that going to be a key again?
Yes, and Siege of Boralis.
Ugh its too soon to go back to SL TY for the heads up tho @@semi6544
@@semi6544 oh, love that
@@theusernameicoodfind -- You don't love the Siege of Boralis part though right?
@@semi6544 I love it actually
Nice shades :)
Hpala should be bottom tier since DF's not needed rework
one thing i would like to know for a tier list is utility :D how are the pros and cons for healers.. affix and sort :D and for dps too :D I am more support player :D
Which healer does the most damage
Thats all that matters anyways lol
Fuc bro the glasses really brought this video to another level!!!!!
I felt "cool"
So Tierlist yea i get it..but at the end its more about buffs. So if we dont have a Motw Buff in our group u end up playing resto druid again as a meta healer.
Marcelian where are the Polish subtitles?
Holy priest in B tier as usual for prepatch, until a lot of people start playing it and somehow it becomes "omg holy priest is so fun/good".
Pretty much...
Archon holy priest is actually blasting dmg and healing in M+ like crazy, you don't even have to do anything Halo in a pack of mobs does insane dmg all alone and you only cast it once.
Once a friend said to me I would try Holy but thats for girls lmao.. People is stupid when talking about holy priest
@@Orgrimmar21kinda funny comment about girls, I mained holy for years and those dresses transmog were killing me
You need to start getting hero spec icons instead of class icons.
Poor Timing ont he Dr Disrespect mention lol
Keen for you to put holy priest last again lol
perfect
Bad timing with the Dr Disrespect joke lol
looks like healing is gonna suck come TWW ....looks like is gonna be harder to recruit healers
They really do this to themselves honestly.
Just cause you can’t. Doesn’t mean those who can, won’t fill that spot. 😅
Probably play priest, disc is looking so good, though i kinda wanna play something more simple 😂 god dammit... We will see
"I love dr disrespect" is WILD
I gotta say the dr disrespect comment aged like milk.
Why you playing Divine Favor? Hand of Divinity is better lol
Chicken cutlets.
I don't understand the point of tier lists, where you put 5 out of 7 contestants in one tier, and leave 2 tiers empty. This gives me like 0.001 useful insight.
Are you sure you didn't get 100% insight into his opinion?
The tier list is just a mcguffan. Content creators use that format because people click on it & it's good for the algo. What matters is the actual words he says, not the tier list.
I feel like a lot of content creators do this.
I think on the contrary, it shows that the specs are close in power in his opinion and nothing is currently trashy.
Tell me you're dumb without telling me you're dumb
so you love Dr Disrespect huh ...? did y'all predict smth ? lol
Im a 3k io resto shaman & 3k io disc priest and im sticking to disc next expansion... Enjoying the higher complexity + resto shaman has turned to "chain heal only button"
Farseer is AWFUL in terms of fun, needs a lot of work, totemic is 10/10 though
Oracle is............ unusable, no one will ever take that on either priest spec - they should make it so you can cycle through all 4 premonitions instantly without cooldowns inbetween... and THEN it goes on a 1 min cooldown, then maybe? idk
Fair enough!
The new tierset doesnt sinergize with totemic at all xd
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You can calm down with all the goofy camera effects you do in your videos
It's 2014 cringe
"pres is doing the most amount of healing" meanwhile top logs are mostly light green and pink 🤔
It's no surprise that a person that wears sunglasses inside has such bad takes.
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You are the notification master!
The DrDisrespect reference aged poorly, but i guess it makes sense now why he likes him
@ hpala ..bro what did you smoke ? fun ? look @ hots heal ...30-40 k on 4-5 mil hp ? and you call it fun ? as a main hpala ..i will reroll to ret .not worth it anymore . and in m+ is not fun ..not anymore as heal.
I think you have 0 knowledge of healers if you drop this tier-list. Sorry but this video is a fail, maybe do less ad and more content with brain
What's wrong with this tier list?
It's a total fail on you as you clearly didn't listen to anything he said at the start.. Talk about needing brains... Learn to comprehend words lol.
Hey blizzard. nobody wants to play a lizard. thanks.
Yeah this tier list is trash 🚮
Can you also say why? We'd love some feedback!