I'm in my psychology masters, the thesis is how i can easily induce what i call "pinglish behaviour" on my teamates by deviating just one item from the standard buildpath. It goes from things that actually work but are very specific, like buying dark seal on first back as jax in lanes you know you'll snowball, to things that border trolling because they only work if you REEEALLY know what you're doing (ad Sylas xD) Edit: jk that's not my thesis, but it happens without a fault every time. The behavioural patterns of a league player are very readable.
I wish that was the case, because I see A LOT of builds that could not be justified in anyway on the rift.. Even if their whole team tried to accomodate to their build and champion. It's actually crazy sometimes.
@@chefjimmybob not really sure, i would have to take a look around. but i know a vid "How Riot's "Nerfs" Gave Rise to a New Shen Build" which has the same vibes, not exactly mathematical analyses
You should try another video with this build. The enemy team wasn't really a good match up to display it and your team didn't really provide any really good ult angles for you to do what Shen does best. Considering the amount of work that went into making that thesis, it would be really good to see a game where it actually pops off.
This, yeah. Rell was hardcore griefing the game, her plays were abysmal and Kaisa was basically your team's entire clutch. Rell didnt seem to realize that a) She was her team's only frontline because Shen wasnt b) She wasnt good at front lining. The build is hard, and im not sure you want to go full tank after NQB but maybe you do, maybe you build more ADC/bruiser.
@@cskillen1998 Could you elaborate why? (Not considering the typos) Im studying history and english, so I do not really know what you have to look for in a mathematical paper.
@@cskillen1998 The level is not bad at all, with some corrections this is enough for a bachelor level thesis in the best universities in the world The conclusion section is the only part that is too comedic to be used in an academic context
@@pokemonrampagemake The report should be re-written completetly; he is switching tenses when typing and he is constantly using the word "we" which is incorrect. You should write the report as if it already happend, which he didn't. He is also missing a bunch of references. The level of the language is extremely low, "Here we noticed that the variation in the curves across all values of h0 is pretty small. So we fix the value for h0 at 50 [..]." is not academic at all. How do you define "pretty small"? Something like this is more academic: "It was noticed that the variation in the curves across all value of h0 is low, hence the value of h0 was set to a fixed value of 50 as [...]"
@@InternetAlias It's more or less that it is not academic, and he is switching between different tenses; when this work is published it has already been done, hence you type what you HAVE done, and not what you WILL/ARE doing. For example "We start by plotting the haste [...]", should be "The haste was plotted by [...]". He is also missing a bunch of references, for examples all the formulas; if no references are presented you are implying that you came up with the information.
this Rell was gigabad, there was no reason to go in after securing baron on 5 people. shouldve just let her die and back out. Enemies all had reset such a moronic play and then to follow to save her was also pretty bad.
what???? I honestly expected something streamlined, but he legit wrote an entire mathematical thesis, no joke some of our mathematics major books are written in a very similar fashion.
To be fair, Olaf seems like the worst matchup to play Navorii Shen into. It seems like it would work best in a game where it allows you to win sidelane 1v1 as Shen, but yeah idk if that is actually worth it in exchange for giving up tankiness.
I feel like I remember another paper about a Shen build from many years ago? Also, I like the River Shen counter for subs, it was a fun build, good old times.
Waaaait. Is that the shen player I got last week? I was impressed his build worked while my premades flamed him. He actually played decently and didnt int more than normal shens lmao
Thank you brethren! You have truly outdone yourself, and as a fellow supporter of this build, I'm beyond happy to finally get to see Petu put this hypothesis into practice. Edit: Thank you Petu for trying this build. I totally see what you mean about the lack of fair fights in modern League of Legends. You can put this build to rest, I've had my fill.
Lethal tempo on shen has always been good. I like the idea of AH on shen, 2 tank items with this navori build would suffice i think. I might try this build out myself
6:50 you talk about having the attack speed runes instead of double adaptive force but when you showed rune page you had double adaptive and not the attack speed rune.
I've tried Shen adc botlane with lethal tempo, with a pyke or panth support and botrk first on shen it actually works pretty well. ofc it was only plat elo so it probably wouldn't work in masters
yes, but you can calculate the diff, blame casuality if you lose, brag skill when you win, win win. altho, i would change main and make a theory before i chose again to be honest 😏
I'm gonna say to the thesis guy the same I've been told by a random G in a warm-up, normal game few years ago (I used to be grandmaster on EUW). "If you would put the same effort you put into this stupid fucking game you'd be a millionare" My mom doesn't work for 3 years already.
now imagine taric with his passive with this. i tried it top lane and it actualy works. aerly game after stun, you deal insane damage with autos becouse of lethat tempo. in late game, if you build enough ability haste, you can actualy permastun someone.
when/if riot patch this 4% (that's beeing a bug with the crit interaction after all) shen can discover very different builds, hope they think about it.
To see the ultimate lethal tempo quickblades..... play taric. Push E. Right click. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Realize you can do this at 3 items or less. Realize yasuos W works the same way. Halarity ensures.
Much Love Petu ❤❤❤
I'm honored to be mentioned in your video!
you're a legend
Did you write that thesis? Its incredible xD
ahmed mohsen to to to to to to to ahmed ya mohsen to to to to
عالمي يا حج
شغال عالي يا باشا❤
Man maybe in the future we need to whip out a thesis to justify our build when being hard pinged by a team mate
I'm in my psychology masters, the thesis is how i can easily induce what i call "pinglish behaviour" on my teamates by deviating just one item from the standard buildpath. It goes from things that actually work but are very specific, like buying dark seal on first back as jax in lanes you know you'll snowball, to things that border trolling because they only work if you REEEALLY know what you're doing (ad Sylas xD)
Edit: jk that's not my thesis, but it happens without a fault every time. The behavioural patterns of a league player are very readable.
@@Esodumtriforce kaisa goes crazy
@@dimo6994shyv, kraken, guinsoo, nashor's too broken imo but you do you
I wish that was the case, because I see A LOT of builds that could not be justified in anyway on the rift..
Even if their whole team tried to accomodate to their build and champion.
It's actually crazy sometimes.
@@berdiebert1 People having fun in the video game off-meta? We can't have that!
He really did it, he really did the _calculashens_
take my angry upvote
@@MrDisendat obligatory shen pun, it had to be done.
The pun gods prophet
God damn it.
That’s because he’s a _matematishen_
You know it'll work if someone sends you whole thesis on a particular build
Peer-reviewed by the legend himself, too
They lost it didn't work
it works in ideal world but Mohamed didn't include real world situations like ranged champs, human factor and etc
@@walideslouliwalid6753 he lost in 14:30
@@pardus3402 so it is incomplete and not pretty much useful :/
i LOVE these mathematical analyses on this channel. some of my FAVOURITE CONTENT. its what got me into this channel
Same!! what are some other math analyses he as talked about?
@@chefjimmybob not really sure, i would have to take a look around. but i know a vid "How Riot's "Nerfs" Gave Rise to a New Shen Build" which has the same vibes, not exactly mathematical analyses
@@chefjimmybob "Mathematically Optimal Lethal Tempo Shen"
Daisy/Magerite proccs "press the attack", thats why ivern went it. Hes an special technologgy enjoyer aswell
Will be running this mathematical Shen build, Gold here I come!
If you cant reach gold with a normal build, you won't with this meme build
The maths are there, we have the technology. Going up to gold is possible.
The only way is up!
the easiest way to get to gold is to place in plat
@@ElegantSerr how did it went?
You should try another video with this build. The enemy team wasn't really a good match up to display it and your team didn't really provide any really good ult angles for you to do what Shen does best.
Considering the amount of work that went into making that thesis, it would be really good to see a game where it actually pops off.
This, yeah. Rell was hardcore griefing the game, her plays were abysmal and Kaisa was basically your team's entire clutch. Rell didnt seem to realize that a) She was her team's only frontline because Shen wasnt b) She wasnt good at front lining.
The build is hard, and im not sure you want to go full tank after NQB but maybe you do, maybe you build more ADC/bruiser.
My bro just wrote a thesis, probably on Latex, to validade lethal navori shen. Gotta respect this madman!
This is border line r/Ryze mains behavior, or maybe even more chaotic.
@@navjotsingh2251 river shen
@@navjotsingh2251nahh none can beat those guys
The forbidden xpetu quadra consecutive uploads.
He unlocked a new forbidden upload technology
new upload tech LMAO
the audacity for rell to ping anything after that baron play is insane
That Rell was such dog dude, she had me vomiting on my keyboard, so many terrible misplays -- and blaming other people kekw.
as a PhD student I can confirm that Einstein did mention in the special theory of relativity the navori quick blades
Love how you explain everything you do, like hitting the waves when he is hitting and etc. Great content 10/10
This man paper on one item and rune page on league is better than my last year thesis
Shouldnt be allowed to pass then, the level is far from academic
@@cskillen1998 Could you elaborate why? (Not considering the typos)
Im studying history and english, so I do not really know what you have to look for in a mathematical paper.
@@cskillen1998 The level is not bad at all, with some corrections this is enough for a bachelor level thesis in the best universities in the world
The conclusion section is the only part that is too comedic to be used in an academic context
@@pokemonrampagemake The report should be re-written completetly; he is switching tenses when typing and he is constantly using the word "we" which is incorrect. You should write the report as if it already happend, which he didn't. He is also missing a bunch of references. The level of the language is extremely low, "Here we noticed that the variation in the curves across all values of h0 is pretty small. So we fix the value for h0 at 50 [..]." is not academic at all. How do you define "pretty small"? Something like this is more academic: "It was noticed that the variation in the curves across all value of h0 is low, hence the value of h0 was set to a fixed value of 50 as [...]"
@@InternetAlias It's more or less that it is not academic, and he is switching between different tenses; when this work is published it has already been done, hence you type what you HAVE done, and not what you WILL/ARE doing. For example "We start by plotting the haste [...]", should be "The haste was plotted by [...]". He is also missing a bunch of references, for examples all the formulas; if no references are presented you are implying that you came up with the information.
Rell jumps in 1v5, dies like a sack of potatoes, decides to ping the Kaisa 😂
This! Typical LoL player
this Rell was gigabad, there was no reason to go in after securing baron on 5 people. shouldve just let her die and back out. Enemies all had reset such a moronic play and then to follow to save her was also pretty bad.
The rework made all the normies play her and do terrible jobs
First there was baus inting thesis, now came the Petu viewer's new tech thesis, I love this.
cant wait for baus irelia ap thesis
what???? I honestly expected something streamlined, but he legit wrote an entire mathematical thesis, no joke some of our mathematics major books are written in a very similar fashion.
Petu blessing us once again... Thankyou Petu. Love from Australia
"Suppose a league player starts and attack at t = 0" is my favourite.
Can we all please take a moment and appreciate the work put in the Report by Mr. Mohamed Mohsen
To be fair, Olaf seems like the worst matchup to play Navorii Shen into. It seems like it would work best in a game where it allows you to win sidelane 1v1 as Shen, but yeah idk if that is actually worth it in exchange for giving up tankiness.
that Leblanc kill was awesome!
2:39 having an engineering background, that made me smile
So glad you're making content again!
I feel like I remember another paper about a Shen build from many years ago? Also, I like the River Shen counter for subs, it was a fun build, good old times.
these whole game comentary are very good, like having the whole insight into play
The conclusion was beautiful.
That thesis looks far more interesting than the one I'm working on
i love these mathematical league videos since league is a game of stats i like how math explains everything better
19:02 THE FINISH MADMAN FINISHES HER MADMANLY.
the ivern got also send a paper by oppenheimer , explaining him how his onhit passive outscales every lvl 1 fight xD
Bruh I just found your channel a few days ago, and fuck I almost die laughing at that "... Nabori Quickblades is the special theory of relativity."
that is some unbelievable dedication knowing that it might get phased out the moment a rioter decides to fart on a patch
This Rell really had only one functioning brain cell and decided to use it to flame
I think navori as a 2nd or 3rd item would work. Get tanky, do shen things, then spike on 3rd item navori
Unironically, this is why I love your content. Haha.
Amazing. Even wrote it in LaTeX. Like a true mathematician.
You, reading mathematical thesis on your champion. Your Ivern “tree man go burrrrrrrr”
Waaaait. Is that the shen player I got last week? I was impressed his build worked while my premades flamed him. He actually played decently and didnt int more than normal shens lmao
Thank you brethren! You have truly outdone yourself, and as a fellow supporter of this build, I'm beyond happy to finally get to see Petu put this hypothesis into practice.
Edit: Thank you Petu for trying this build. I totally see what you mean about the lack of fair fights in modern League of Legends. You can put this build to rest, I've had my fill.
LOL thebausffs "arrghghhh, BIG" @ 19:24
The conclusion of the paper was so beautiful.
Lethal tempo on shen has always been good. I like the idea of AH on shen, 2 tank items with this navori build would suffice i think. I might try this build out myself
It's kinda like listening to Zizek playing League.
My first game of shen mid after you started recommending it went about exactly the same as 26:55 😂
That leblanc kill is why shen is called the eye of twilight lmao
I sat through that entire presentation not realizing this was going to be Shen gameplay. I was expecting a discussion about ADCs.
6:50 you talk about having the attack speed runes instead of double adaptive force but when you showed rune page you had double adaptive and not the attack speed rune.
No I literally had attack speed, look at the runes lol
you are actually the reason why shen became my favorite champion all the time hehe
Now THIS is a forbidden technology.
I'm usually a nonchalant person but I audibly gasped when he caught Leblanc recalling in her base.
"We just keep going" -xPetu 2023
can you make a Shen mid specific guide? I want to get into Shen midland but I have no idea how to play it.
If you can't figure out how to play it, maybe you shouldn't?
@@gwenstacyismid that's why he is asking for a guide, lol
@@gwenstacyismid If u can't reply with manners, maybe u shouldn't reply at all?
Dude put more work writing about league than I writing my final graduation work
bro is 4 parralel universes ahead of the "auto-ban" system
19:32 this is what playing videogames should sound like :D
My man put more effort into proving why this build is legit than I did at any point in school
Imagine you type: This build is int
And they resoond in all chat with a link to the fucking google doc.
Autistic level of commitment. This is why I'm subbed for, next level shennanigans
This is amazing!
Mohsen, might i have some of that "water" you drinkin', bud?
Petu so gigabased he doesn't let Rell's obvious brain damage bother him.
Of course! By using the cooldown from Navori Quickblades on long cooldown moves like Shen's W, we can move through time!!!!!!!
Keep going!
these shen techs have gone too far
I've had decent success with navori shen in the jungle, you should try it! Navori and titanic hydra and then build whatever you need after that.
That LeBlanc really wanted revenge for that base kill
The Forbidden Rell int after baron. Cannot believe this Rell is Master
Damn... If Baus would make something like this, he could justify his AP Irelia build
Why didn't you sell the Doran's shield at 18:21 so you could buy Navori?
I've tried Shen adc botlane with lethal tempo, with a pyke or panth support and botrk first on shen it actually works pretty well. ofc it was only plat elo so it probably wouldn't work in masters
Had a Shen go 1/11 with this build on my promos lmao
19:04 What the ever loving fuck was that hahahhaha!
Dude w/ Lethal Tempo + Navori, you should match it with Titanic
The worst thing would be to get started on the thesis, and find out that it actually disproves your own build 😲
yes, but you can calculate the diff, blame casuality if you lose, brag skill when you win, win win. altho, i would change main and make a theory before i chose again to be honest 😏
This is the greatest thing to ever come out of league
18:52 this whole play is so cracked XD
Is ther any place where we can get the thesis?
@xPetu drop the thesis, my friend. Help a brother
It's in the description, you can find it on my discord server: discord.gg/KNCknuK9uX
I insta liked the video as I was waiting for the ads at the beginning
navori only increase damage that are either flaged as proc damage or spell damage, and have a champion ability as source.
Turns out that Shen's Q is both an ability and spell damage
We're taking a glimpse of 200 years in the future 😭
bro brought out the LaTeX
If attack speed is space, ability haste is time and Navori is theory of relativity then Mohamed Mohsen per se, is Einstine.
I'm gonna say to the thesis guy the same I've been told by a random G in a warm-up, normal game few years ago (I used to be grandmaster on EUW).
"If you would put the same effort you put into this stupid fucking game you'd be a millionare"
My mom doesn't work for 3 years already.
And people say that math is useless in your everyday life
now imagine taric with his passive with this. i tried it top lane and it actualy works. aerly game after stun, you deal insane damage with autos becouse of lethat tempo. in late game, if you build enough ability haste, you can actualy permastun someone.
Item: exists.
xPetu: for me? :D
Love you Petu ❤
23:43 😅 unexpected petu growl
i love how shen mains litterally deo mathematics and studies about their builds lol
there is a mohamed mohsen, in my uni math departament... I'll ask if is the same guy, cuz DAMN what a coincidence.
when/if riot patch this 4% (that's beeing a bug with the crit interaction after all) shen can discover very different builds, hope they think about it.
To see the ultimate lethal tempo quickblades..... play taric. Push E. Right click. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Realize you can do this at 3 items or less. Realize yasuos W works the same way. Halarity ensures.
That leblanc kill had me dying man holy
We also need a tesis for Katarina builds
Only the best can miss so much
This guy is a real Mathematishen
19:30 Petu turns into Mario WAH HAHA
you know the item page is serious when it's written in latex
19:00 I couldnt finish the video without laughing LOL