These Valuable Shinies Will NEVER Be Lost
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Yeah I'm literal. What about it?
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You know if you transfered your Beautifly, you could still prove you caught it in Gen 3 with the location data. It'll say it "traveled across space and time to travel with you from the Hoenn region" and it will be missing an origin mark which proves it didnt come from ORAS.
That being said, they need to provide a final update to Pokémon Bank to store the Pokémon to your 3DS's hardrive instead of their cloud servers. It'll take up more space in the 3DS's storage, but it will future proof the app so you can transfer Pokémon from Gens 3-7 to HOME.
Upon research on how much data a single Pokémon is, the amount of storage space to fit 3000 Pokémon in bank is remarkably small.
I always thought it wouldn’t be distinguishable from an ORAS Beautifly, but I TOTALLY forgot about the origin mark. I’m kinda passed needing to prove where it’s from, but I am still a bit happy that it’s provable hehe.
The issue with this isn't storage, unfortunately, it's connecting to their servers to run the transfer. If you have custom firmware on your 3DS, you can use PKSM as an offline version of bank. The bigger issue is connecting bank to home.
They could have pushed an update to bank/home where your switch creates a local wifi network that your 3ds can connect to (this is how you can send screenshots to your phone from your switch, so it should be able to do this already), and then transfer the pokemon using that local connection. It is a bit more involved than what you're describing, but I'm assuming they figured the financial benefit of doing this wasn't worth the effort.
@@marc4008 though I doubt they will, they can still push an update onto bank. Updates to games still work after eshop went down but you just can’t download new software. (I updated my Pokémon sun that I’ve never booted last night)
@@EmmyMimimi If you wanted to bring it back to your Gen 3 game, it's not that hard and I'd gladly help in anyway I could for you. Yes, it wouldn't be THE Beautifly, but it would BE the Beautifly. I've helped out several people with archiving their pokemon before the inevitable end of Transporter/Bank, and I hate nothing more than knowing someone has the option to save them forever on their original games AND move them up to Home at the same time to enjoy in future titles, and find out too late missing the opportunity:(
The thing about keeping them in the older games is that it blows if you have something like a house fire. I had all the Japanese games from Gen 1 forward and all those games and all that work burned it was devastating.
You could dump and backup saves to multiple different cloud storage servers if that’s a concern.
@@suddensIt's honestly crazy how much of a game changer backing up your official cart saves is. Wanna restart your favorite GBA games without permanently deleting your save files? Wanna play around with glitches and ACE safely? Wanna play on your save files but on your 3DS for some reason? Now you can, and all that is needed is a ds lite, an r4 card, microsd card, a computer with internet, and some way to access said microsd card.
@@milkdrinker7 exactly, I’ve backed up every physical copy I have from gens 3-9 onto my 2ds and it’s such a nice feeling to be able to play any of them over and over without deleting my childhood saves and I can just create new saves whenever
A version of these shinies *will* be unavailable. For shiny ribbon collectors such as myself, we will never be able to get all the ribbons on our shinies. Which is why I'm making haste for all mine.
True. The ribbon challenge being killed off is really sad :c
If you are going for a living shiny dex, you are a masochist!
It's NOT an easy task that's for sure.
I know if I ever did something like that, it would be something like a gen 3 living dex... which is probably harder but shhhhhhhhh.
It's not something I work on consistently, but it's a nice passive goal and gives something more to look forward to when I shiny hunt
@@kennyboy1320 that is fair
It’s not my main goal but definitely a long term goal but I doubt I’ll ever finish unless they stop releasing Pokémon, and the fact there’s a bunch of Pokémon that are impossible to get shiny.
Guess I'm a masochist then...
I randomly got suggested you but immediately everything about you made me want to subscribe
I appreciate it! Hope you enjoy what I’m gonna continue making :>
Same here! I was surprised at how small their sub count is too. This is great!
I love these conversational type of videos! I'd definitely shiny hunt with these on the side.
PS: Patrat will always be a mythical in my heart 🥺
Glad you enjoyed! I have more in the works already~
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Omg that's so sweet! I'm gonna try, because I've always wanted to do RUclips ever since I was like 11.
I really like the way you express your feelings on a subject you have deep feelings for like this one keep it up!
Shiny hunting is cool! Everyone has their own goals and I love to see it :>
origin mark, ribbons, those stuff always makes shinies alot more valuable than the more recent ones, for example the champion ribbon from gen 3 and not having origin mark, using the gen 3 exclusive ribbon as a cool title in the newer games
Yeah I totally forgot about the ribbon challenge when making this. That challenge basically WILL be lost and it sucks :
Bruh I thought this was going to be a video about a work around to transfer everything up.
the reason i like to transfer my shinies up is just due to the risk of losing them if say the batteries in the old games eventually die out and make saves hard to keep.
though i know there are ways to keep your saves using 3rd party tools, it's only for certain platforms. i also feel it takes a bit of the legitimacy away, idk why it makes me feel that way but it does.
i also like having all my shinies in one place, being able to use whenever i want in the newest games. i feel that's the point of the whole transfer system really: to be with the friends you made over many years of playing
Dead batteries only effect gen 1 and 2 in terms of losing your data, and you can’t transfer stuff from those generations forward anyway.
But yeah I DO get why people wanna transfer their Pokémon/shinies forward; at least now I do. And having them all in one place is especially nice! You’ll get to bring them along on so many adventures!
just motivated me to transfer everything valuable to home 🙏
Bring em where you want em! They can follow you on your new journeys!
Nice video :) I subscribed to see this channel grow and achieve its potencial.
I really like how you don’t judge the hunts made by others, there is so much gatekeeping around.
Who am I to judge people doing what they enjoy? It’s not like someone using RNG manipulation makes my day any worse! I’m glad they’re doing what they wanna do!
@@EmmyMimimi I think exactly the same :)
Great video, you have some very interesting points, thank you for sharing them.
I personally like to keep shinys in their original game too but I'm also aware that my feelings can change over time and I might not feel that way in the future. The idea that i might not be able to have my special mons in future games if i want them is a bit scary.
I think there's a lot of FOMO and anxiety in the community right now and thats why a lot of content creators are talking about this topic, to soothe (or capitalise on) the situation.
Yeah it DOES suck and it a negative overall. There’s definitely nothing positive about bank closing, that’s for sure.
I think they are just trying to use extreme language to entice people to their videos more, which is honestly fair lmao.
Yeeeeah them being "lost" definitely isnt true. For me i do value being able to transfer them to newer games, or well, mostly to home, to show off a "legal" shiny collection. but tbh with how gamefreak is shinylocking a ton of encounters nowadays it doesnt matter much anymore to me.
Amazing vid, i enjoy hearing you talk about these things a lot uwu
Everyone has their own values when it comes to shiny hunting and that's what makes it so special! I hope your collection is in a good place once Bank closes.
@@EmmyMimimi im more newish to shiny hunting and havent gotten hard deep into it, ive been on a big break for a while. but i hope so too! Personal values of shinies are what really make shiny hunting interesting for me. Like, it could just be a shiny wooloo... or I can also say thats my Shiny Wooloo Connie, my first ever shiny, after it was an inside joke in a friend group that i used to never get any shinies since i played almost all the games and didnt have one succesful hunt. Or my second shiny applin, which i got in 3 eggs somehow (still my fastest hunt ever lmao)
Personal shiny stories are what make them so unique and valuable, and I love it
@@pinksuiren Cherish Connie :>
@@EmmyMimimi I do! I love her uwu
I never cared that much about shinies, sure I just so happen to own some and catch some if I see any, but I value my High IV Pokémon I bred from Gen VI-onward more plus finishing the Home Dex up is what I am doing.
Rng is a hard shiny hunt method and it is very hard since you have to do frame perfect imputs
I don't consider it a shiny hunt as it's fundamentally different than shiny hunting. I still respect it, but don't consider it a "hunt". Also constant attempts at a 1 frame input is far less time consuming than most actual shiny hunts. I've done my fair share of 1 frame RNG manipulations and it usually takes less than a dozen attempts at it.
Not the same alone and legit shiny hunt is way harder and actually random
while im not a shiny hunter in fact i actively dont like it. I think I understand what you mean its not about having it in your home box but more about the journey. That random wild green Zubat and green Marill will always be a cherish memory and will stay with me not in bank but in my heart and memories
You get it! Lotsa shinies get hunted and then just sit in a box forever, so I don't think it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be, but I still do get the panic.
After watch this video i have to say i never tought about this point of view. I personaly like to transfer evreything i want to move foward, but i understand your point of view. I really enjoy the video, it was very intrested becouse is a different point of view compare to mine. I think im gonna check out other video from you becouse this pne was a very intresting watch.
Understanding someone else’s opinion is something that people seem to struggle with sometimes, so I’m glad to hear we can both respect other opinions!
I have another video I’m super excited for in the works already too, since I’m not too sure my other videos are the same quality as this one lol.
I actually transfer my collection up, but I'll add new Elite Four beaten ribbons to them while I do so. I like to have my collection in Home sooner than later but I do get it why you like to keep your own Pokémon in their original games for what I think can be described as completionist reasons.
@@Leto85 I also totally understand why people like to transfer their collections up! And honestly, ribbons are one of the biggest things that will actually be “lost” (if you wanna get every ribbon on a Pokémon, it’ll become impossible)
@@EmmyMimimi Oh goodness, yes.
If I have time left I do consider making one Ribbon Master from Colosseum or XD.
I'm considering Snorlax or female Gardevoir. What do you think?
The ranch of available mons for ribbon mastery get slimmer by the generation. Another option us to intentionally leave out the purify ribbon and go with Pikachu as this is almost an guaranteed transfer up into every future game.
But so is Snorlax.
@@Leto85 idk why it needs to be female, but Gardevoir is my favourite Pokémon! When I briefly considered doing a ribbon challenge, I was gonna do it with Gardevoir, so that’s my vote lol.
@@EmmyMimimi I like Pokémon that look feminine to be femine and those who look masculine to be male from the first generation I caught them in, especially when this is their native region. As part of my Living Origin Dex other Gardevoir and the like can be whatever gender. I have a hundo in Go that happens to be male for example. But because that one is a hundo it will stay in Go.
@@EmmyMimimi I just remembered, the Machamp line I have in Go ready to be send to Home is all female. I wanted this because the female gender is rare for the Machop line. And they are all shiny, which only adds to the rarity.
But the ones I bred in FireRed are all male and not shiny. This is because they are part of my Masterdex, where the ones from Go will be part of my Origin Dex.
Yes, I go that deep. XD
This way I can get not only all gender variants but also all genders of all Pokémon that have them.
Yeah I think the main mentality is that because you cannot transfer it or obtain it in future generations, its really only lost forever in the modern view point/future until there is a legal method of obtaining that isn't limited time/mystery gift.
I can personally understand a fair extent to this. Mostly w/ the possibility w/ data corruption or a dead battery being a known thing. Depending on what you have, you could be fortunate enough to keep your gen 3-4 Pokémon safe in XD: Gale of Darkness, Colosseum or Box for Gen 3 on the GameCube but w/ gen 4 you would've needed the no-longer legitimately obtainable My Pokémon Ranch to keep them safe on the Wii, though that method itself would be annoying due to its own compatibility chaos and as far as I'm concern, no real safe way to keep gen 5 Pokémon games.
So I think the main idea is to protect your Pokémon from potentially losing it from the unenviable. It's why I think Bank & Home are so desired.
@@guestyleotter9094 I’m not particularly worried about a random data corruption, and if you are, can definitely back up your old saves to keep your Pokémon totally save
Maybe there will be a non Nintendo approved way to move these Pokemon into future games without Pokemon bank
I sure hope there’ll be!
One thing I find interesting is how shinies are essentially tiered in a sense based on rarity
There’s the guaranteed shinies (Johto’s Gyrados, Legends Arceus’ Ponyta, B2W2’s Haxourus)
Increased base odds (XY’s Safari Zone, Gen 2’s mystery egg gift, shiny charm)
Fluctuating base odds (Masuda Method, Alola’s SOS battles, BDSP’s Grand Underground)
Current full odds
And the old full odds
Not to mention some self imposed odds to make the Pokemon you’re hunting more rare (like hunting a 1% spawn, a specific gender, a specific ability, a specific nature, or a specific form), an example being that I once hunted for a shiny Grookey via breeding but I wanted it to specifically be female and have the Grassy Surge ability (ended up with 7 shiny male Grookey before getting my first shiny female who also had Grassy Surge)
Some people care about how rare a certain shiny was to obtain whilst other people view all shinies as valuable but I think everyone would agree that getting a gen 3 full odds shiny Ponyta is more impressive that getting the scripted Shiny Ponyta from Legends Arceus
This is like the EXACT topic I talked about in “The Shiny Hunting Spectrum”
I think it’s interesting and I honestly like it, since it gives people more options to shiny hunt based on what they wanna do and their goals. It literally just opens up shiny hunting to more people and I think it’s wonderful how many different methods and “tiers” there are.
With Legends ZA coming somewhere in 2025, the currently un-transferable Pokémon originally from the Kalos region will become transferable!
Though the fact that we have to wait a year for it is a bit of a bother, I think it's a price that I'm willing to pay.
how tf do you only got 83 subs now iv sub
now id watched hole video i cant help but agree i only shiny hunt in pokemon soul silver as only game i love also you take care
@@LillieClover We all deserve to take care!
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I have no current plans to turn into a toaster but I make no promises (I have no idea what that means if it means more than the literal meaning lol)
@@EmmyMimimi i didnt think you'd respond😭
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goood video very good very smart with smart words
I graduated top of my class in smart words
Your voice is great
It fluctuates a LOT, but I appreciate it ^^
Good point. Maybe I shouldn't feel too bad for transferring a shiny Chansey I got totally by accident in gen 4 to XY right? Hahahha
Cool video :)
If you want it in XY, bring her on up! It’s not like people wouldn’t believe it’s from gen 4. I realized that people wouldn’t just say you’re lying about how you got a shiny if you transfered it up, so what’s the issue ^^;
And thank you very much :)
@@EmmyMimimi hahah right... Actually its been in XY for years, and every time I see them I feel bad hahaha
ohhh I'm REALLY bad with sarcasm. I DID mention in my video that I'm autistic and literal lmao. That's unfortunate and I feel your pain.
Honestly, I really dislike the new way of handling that they introduced in Gen 8. All Pokemon are given convoluted masses of extra data to monitor what games they originally belong to, what games they visited afterwards and what ID they are meant to have in the online database and thus stuff is almost impossible to spoof.
For this reason, Go mons are in big danger of just being dead/lost events in the future and it's Adios for legacy mons when they cut the Bank to Home-transfer. By comparison, Bank simply upconverted Pokemon data in relatively predictable ways without doing anything fancy, so its functionality is easily replicated even without the official server once it goes down.
Please make more Videos, I love the content so far🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳🥳🥳
I've run into something that might delay me for multiple more months unfortunately, but I promise I DO plan on making consistent content once that's all figured out!
@@EmmyMimimi Take your time bro, I wanna see u at the top🤧🥳
i clicked on this expecting 100k+ subs.... what..
i bet this person gonna get 1k at least by the end of the year
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oh wait nvm i take it back they never upload, good luck anyway
@@lIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I'm gonna upload at least once a month hopefully! that 6+ month break was because I was literally unable to make videos.
I hope sooooooo!
Makes me mad. Shiny hunting in VC has taken sooo long. Getting the mons I want takes MONTHS.
Just in case I trade to emerald then clone and send to gen4
Cloning is great for that! Just another reason gen 3 hunting is the best hehe
@WISHMKRMortem Best part of the battle frontier! Looking forward to watching more of your content 🙏
This is stupid simply celebi is available in the jp bonus disc for coloseum
It's shiny locked
It can only be shiny hunted on VC Crystal
It is not shiny locked but is even rarer than a normal shiny
@@Naruto394dos32redemuinhos There is proof of that Celebi being shiny locked and there’s never been anyone who’s found a shiny Celebi from it (barring corruption or whatever the heck Im a blisy did, that still just shows you need to use corruption to make it have the ability to be shiny).
If you’re claiming this, please provide proof, because everything says that this isn’t true.
Clickbait title
Not helpful at all
Fans should be banding together to make a change so that 20 years of games aren’t cut off permanently forever
True, honestly game freak and TPC deserve to be sued for pressuring ppl into buying their ransomware cloud service, Home is useless due to the dex cuts that still plague the games to this day yet they still haven’t fixed that and the galar fossils