If Payday 3 wasn't surrounded by such dark circumstances and poor executive decisions, it may genuinely feel like this is the first of many exciting updates for Year 2. Unfortunately, right now it feels like this is a great update for a game with a VERY uncertain future.
Armor 2.0 getting pushed back to spring 2025 killed my hype. I did recommend this game to a friend who bought it in september but now im thinking i pulled him with me on this sinking ship.
12:34 They also gotta add the “bag secured” pop up. I miss that little QoL feature so much. They said they were planning on implementing it though so we’ll have to wait and see.
Im guessing late 2025-early 2026. CEO said going into 2025 based on sales and reception they may or may not continue support. and since we all know 2025 is not gonna help payday 3 it will die.
@stephenmisener1659 I'm glad. Deserves them right making a shit game. Too many game companies produce shit with no repercussion. All they had to do was make payday 2.5. They changed everything and it was shit
It isn't fun it fucking sucks. They just rushed it you can tell and it has nothing really calling me back to payday 1 and 2 and it's just a sad attempt
Then you must be new. Removing progression through challenges, server browser with loud/stealth filters, reactive armor were all really important additions and I'm probably missing some others
It's so sad that this is happening. Had all this starbreeze drama not have happened this would've been an update that I think would've helped repair payday 3's reputation and would've given some players a revived sense of hope but now this update has become a waste of time for both the devs and players
i was very confused with the loud vault door, i expected the cops to open it and it looked like they were, but it it was just them picking up lootbags through the door.
I love this heist in stealth, you basically make the bank rob itself. Although times are dark surrounding the future of the game, I believe this is a step in the right direction.
@@j777ace I guess that's true. Hell I did the secret ending for payday 2 but overdrill in payday 3 probably wouldn't work. At least without armor 2.0 as payday 3s armor system does NOT support long term holdouts. Hell my usual crew (3 people with good experience) struggled on hard and couldn't beat very hard due to the the cops funneling into the vault.
What gets me about starved execs do they not expect people to remember payday 3 when they reveal project Baxter. Look how many times people immediately write off (rightfully so) Ubisoft games because they know that companies history.
Not sure Starbreeze quite understand how randomness works, tbf. Saying "Favors now drop in groups instead of randomly." just isn't accurate at all. Sure, it's *_less_* random than previously but it's still (seemingly) a 25% chance of getting a favour for a particular grouped heist. Honestly kinda hate that addition. Like, sure, you can focus on a particular type/group of heist and earn favours for them but if you don't particularly enjoy that group and only want to do certain ones for a trophy/achievement then you're kinda forced to play them to benefit.
@@Rob-zq6qv genuinely it's okay 😂 I wasn't a HUGE fan tbh, but I think that's more because Roblox feels a little old to me and plays like a lesser Payday 2, if that makes sense?
I personally prefer this. it actually seems more of a "They're surrounded in the vault, make a wall and drop them when they try to leave" rather than a constant trickle of police.
Man, I'm so glad I did not waste money on this game. And they lost quite a few people as customers for life with the ban wave they had a while back on the Steam forums. Looking forward to what Simon and Ulf are cooking with Den of Wolves.
Payday on roblox (named infamy) is more replayable and fun than pd3. Man, at this point, you also got to point to the devs as well for fumbling this bad.
The only loose cash worth picking is in diamond district with arround 200k in value for hard and VH (not sure about Ovk) Which make the heist fun to rob everytime Great video to watch as always. Keep up the good work and If you want to make other kind of video about a different game. I'll check Crime Boss update and such If you do them in the futur.
I’m still so confused why overdrill isn’t included. Like, I get not that many people actually do it but there’s just no way that it can be THAT hard to add. It’s literally just a drill and some extra bags 🤷♂️
It's been said it's not the DIFFICULTY of adding it, it's the fact that overdrill wouldn't work with how Payday 3 is a resource management game. a 30 minute drill would be abysmal. They're reworking a secret for this map, and I'm genuinely excited to see what it is.
Great Review! I'm excited but unfortunately that is on pause due to losing my dlc guns, attachments, and cosmetics. If that wasn't enough I can't even play on XBX. Between the menu and gameplay stuttering and freezing, it's honestly unplayable. From what it sounds, it seems most issues are on XBX but not everyone is experiencing stuttering or missing weapons. A huge bummer for me, I was really looking forward to today. Even if I could play though, I really don't want to spend more money and c-stacks on weapons I already had set up. It's especially frustrating to lose all the renown paints I had applied to the weapons I lost. The only ones I use rarely pop, and now there is no hope. 🤣😭🤣 Hold me.
Disappointed, again. That is not FWB. Plays bad in loud because of the endless assault after you open the vault door from the inside. Running back and forth with around 16 (?) bags in an endless assault with armor as a resource? Bad! The escape is just a boring area to stand in next to the bag secure zipline on one of the balconies and not the way through the toilet wall and the office behind it? Bad!
Ok, wrote that comment before watching your video. Looks like we just had bad rng? Mh... That was our first (and only) playthrough. And after that bs we were done with this stupid game again...
People really dont wanna read between the lines. As per the ceos statements, we know if people dont en mass purchase this game and its dlc over 2025 (which they wont and shouldnt) the game will get abandoned.
Man I love this heist but I'm also disappointed too. The classic escape is so underwhelming. No dozer spawning in, and no carrying bags to the van, barely any cops to kill in the escape. Also no Gun Metal Grey 2024.
This game is still a huge disappointment. Technically, visually, gameplay wise. Just a dated experience that felt underbaked and in a package more akin to games from 10 years ago.
It's a legacy map, one that most players have in early versions, characters are from payday 2 packs.. they need to break fresh ground damn even I can give you a plot rather than serve up past content.. how about a heist where there are two rival gangs after the same loot.. and conditions change.. how about a heist where day one sets the stage for loud or stealth ..how about NEW Characters with new skills and background .. I played this it's no different than the original which is good but why do I need it ?
@@sergentoddball3617 he didn't call it trash, he noted a lot of similar issues I had but they impacted his opinions more. He did, however, make a few good points I hadn't considered.
holy shit this looks amazing im so glad payday 3 are finally doing totally unique heists and not just being recycled trash...oh....oh this is recycled trash? well..damn it..
What if that "new life service thing" is the next payday thing, i dont see how tho, but i mean, payday 3 was soo badly received, and is still doing pretty bad, so what if they are actually prioritizing those new things, and in the case im right that means they are still putting payday as one of their top priorities, just not payday 3. i mean, with all the hate that game is getting, i can see why they wanna leave it behind and just start over on whatever payday is gonna be next. skipping to the next thing instead fixing what might be unfixable.
All the hate can be positive if the devs and the company bothered to make an actual decent game and not a half baked prototype. It makes sense to give up on pd3 seeing how incompetent the company and devs are. However with their level of incompetence, their future IPs are doomed to fail.
Yeah, for the 2 PD3 players, this is great. A lot of the fundamentals need to be reworked but I dont trust the devs to actually cook up good mechanics.
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If Payday 3 wasn't surrounded by such dark circumstances and poor executive decisions, it may genuinely feel like this is the first of many exciting updates for Year 2. Unfortunately, right now it feels like this is a great update for a game with a VERY uncertain future.
Downloading the update right now bro. Can't wait to kick ass and loot stuff. 👍
Currently, Payday 3’s future is “on the table”.
Yeah, this update is good but it isn't about to save the game from the stupid decisions we've been seeing from Starbreeze execs.
Like the offline mode 😢
@@flucklight4189I seriously hope we can get that before this game dies.
Armor 2.0 getting pushed back to spring 2025 killed my hype. I did recommend this game to a friend who bought it in september but now im thinking i pulled him with me on this sinking ship.
Fr! Same situation here
Same.
lmao you don't need enemies with friends like that haha
WE ARE SOMEWHAT BACK
TEMPORARILY BACK
We are downloadably back
We are back-ish
Holy shit no we aren't... Just cause one underwhelming legacy is back doesn't mean payday is fixed
12:34 They also gotta add the “bag secured” pop up. I miss that little QoL feature so much. They said they were planning on implementing it though so we’ll have to wait and see.
This channel is like watching a toxic relationship diving into madness.
The gaslighting is so real from Starbreeze. Will they change their ways? Find out next time on Dragonball Z.
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Good to hear that the last heist is very fun. Can't wait for the shutdown announcement sometime early next year
same 😊
Im guessing late 2025-early 2026. CEO said going into 2025 based on sales and reception they may or may not continue support. and since we all know 2025 is not gonna help payday 3 it will die.
@stephenmisener1659 I'm glad. Deserves them right making a shit game. Too many game companies produce shit with no repercussion. All they had to do was make payday 2.5. They changed everything and it was shit
It isn't fun it fucking sucks. They just rushed it you can tell and it has nothing really calling me back to payday 1 and 2 and it's just a sad attempt
If there's not too many bad news surrounding Payday 3 i would have played this heist but didn't cause i can't tolerate Starbreeze crap anymore.
This might be the first update where the patch notes actually made me super happy lol
Then you must be new.
Removing progression through challenges, server browser with loud/stealth filters, reactive armor were all really important additions and I'm probably missing some others
>Crew AI can now revive each other
[que the "I used to pray for times like this" image]
At least a little optimism is that having the devs on the pubg crossover means that support will continue at least ubtil that crossover is released.
It's so sad that this is happening. Had all this starbreeze drama not have happened this would've been an update that I think would've helped repair payday 3's reputation and would've given some players a revived sense of hope but now this update has become a waste of time for both the devs and players
i was very confused with the loud vault door, i expected the cops to open it and it looked like they were, but it it was just them picking up lootbags through the door.
Semi auto shotgun is probably the new best gun, one taps armored swat to the head when you have edge and grit and are within 5 meters
WE ARE SO KINDA BACK WITH THIS ONE
I love this heist in stealth, you basically make the bank rob itself. Although times are dark surrounding the future of the game, I believe this is a step in the right direction.
WE ARE IN THE VAGUE VICINITY OF THE WORD BACK
No
everything around this game feels more like a soon to come funeral than a game trying to be great again
Make America great again? Nah, make payday great again
Nah not having Overdrill on FWB is fucking criminal.
I can see why they don't have it though. Gold moving sim 2.0 would have been brutal
@@doot7730 that's the fun part, the challenge of completing the ultimate heist.
@@j777ace I guess that's true. Hell I did the secret ending for payday 2 but overdrill in payday 3 probably wouldn't work. At least without armor 2.0 as payday 3s armor system does NOT support long term holdouts.
Hell my usual crew (3 people with good experience) struggled on hard and couldn't beat very hard due to the the cops funneling into the vault.
They are going to add it... Still won't fix the game but y'know
@calebsanders6408 true but it’s what makes FWB the heist it is.
What gets me about starved execs do they not expect people to remember payday 3 when they reveal project Baxter. Look how many times people immediately write off (rightfully so) Ubisoft games because they know that companies history.
when i played the heist i grabed 4bags to the van in the garage but then i had to go back to the vault because you can't throw bags in the van
I’m pretty sure Bile can also drop the thermite via chopper, so it’s not always in the server room, just so you know.
This is my new favourite heist it’s a great recreation of FWB
Not sure Starbreeze quite understand how randomness works, tbf. Saying "Favors now drop in groups instead of randomly." just isn't accurate at all.
Sure, it's *_less_* random than previously but it's still (seemingly) a 25% chance of getting a favour for a particular grouped heist. Honestly kinda hate that addition. Like, sure, you can focus on a particular type/group of heist and earn favours for them but if you don't particularly enjoy that group and only want to do certain ones for a trophy/achievement then you're kinda forced to play them to benefit.
The amount of money I’d pay to see u play 'notoriety a PAYDAY experience' is insane sir
@@Rob-zq6qv I streamed it on Twitch 3 days ago... pay up 😏
@ do u take Robux? its all i have…
@@Rob-zq6qv genuinely it's okay 😂 I wasn't a HUGE fan tbh, but I think that's more because Roblox feels a little old to me and plays like a lesser Payday 2, if that makes sense?
@@RedArcherLive I’m only joking but aye I get you’re saying 😭
7:06 What is that reload speed?!
I don’t know if where back!!! But I’m definitely here baby!!!! Let’s go!!!!
It's a shame they botched the second half of the level with the lack of police.
Contrary I like it after the shit show that was my vault run .
I personally prefer this. it actually seems more of a "They're surrounded in the vault, make a wall and drop them when they try to leave" rather than a constant trickle of police.
this is the first time ive even considered reinstalling and switching off pd2 since Murky station and cook off.....
We are so back, only Quarter
Watch them take 30 steps back lmao
If i wouldnt get 10 fps in the vault room i would love the heist, my fps drop from over 150 down to 10 😓
Man, I'm so glad I did not waste money on this game. And they lost quite a few people as customers for life with the ban wave they had a while back on the Steam forums. Looking forward to what Simon and Ulf are cooking with Den of Wolves.
Payday on roblox (named infamy) is more replayable and fun than pd3. Man, at this point, you also got to point to the devs as well for fumbling this bad.
best heist in the game rn imo
We are only 1% back
one step forward and 100 steps back
Hopefully ATMs come to other heists and their payout is increased. But yeah, solid heist
The only loose cash worth picking is in diamond district with arround 200k in value for hard and VH (not sure about Ovk)
Which make the heist fun to rob everytime
Great video to watch as always. Keep up the good work and If you want to make other kind of video about a different game. I'll check Crime Boss update and such If you do them in the futur.
Unfortunately Crime boss really isn't worth giving support to, since they started using AI for things instead of paying people to do so.
I still think if anyone new wants to play payday just buy payday 2 for like 10 dollar for everything
Fr. Payday 3 isn't even worth the 13 dollars they are asking for on sale.
they need to put this back on game pass
I’m still so confused why overdrill isn’t included. Like, I get not that many people actually do it but there’s just no way that it can be THAT hard to add. It’s literally just a drill and some extra bags 🤷♂️
It's been said it's not the DIFFICULTY of adding it, it's the fact that overdrill wouldn't work with how Payday 3 is a resource management game. a 30 minute drill would be abysmal. They're reworking a secret for this map, and I'm genuinely excited to see what it is.
well that's certainly nice to hear, at least
year 2 could save or fail at the same time
Great Review! I'm excited but unfortunately that is on pause due to losing my dlc guns, attachments, and cosmetics. If that wasn't enough I can't even play on XBX. Between the menu and gameplay stuttering and freezing, it's honestly unplayable.
From what it sounds, it seems most issues are on XBX but not everyone is experiencing stuttering or missing weapons.
A huge bummer for me, I was really looking forward to today. Even if I could play though, I really don't want to spend more money and c-stacks on weapons I already had set up. It's especially frustrating to lose all the renown paints I had applied to the weapons I lost. The only ones I use rarely pop, and now there is no hope. 🤣😭🤣
Hold me.
Disappointed, again. That is not FWB.
Plays bad in loud because of the endless assault after you open the vault door from the inside.
Running back and forth with around 16 (?) bags in an endless assault with armor as a resource? Bad!
The escape is just a boring area to stand in next to the bag secure zipline on one of the balconies and not the way through the toilet wall and the office behind it? Bad!
Ok, wrote that comment before watching your video. Looks like we just had bad rng? Mh...
That was our first (and only) playthrough. And after that bs we were done with this stupid game again...
i dont like the new assault track i wish it was more like pd2 but the heist is rly fun
Have fun
Offline mode is coming in 4599
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Which comes first Starbreeze bankruptcy or Payday 3 shut down place you bets here
People really dont wanna read between the lines. As per the ceos statements, we know if people dont en mass purchase this game and its dlc over 2025 (which they wont and shouldnt) the game will get abandoned.
And being a live service game, if the servers shut down, the game would literally be unplayable forever. What a great investment!
Man I love this heist but I'm also disappointed too. The classic escape is so underwhelming. No dozer spawning in, and no carrying bags to the van, barely any cops to kill in the escape. Also no Gun Metal Grey 2024.
This game is still a huge disappointment. Technically, visually, gameplay wise. Just a dated experience that felt underbaked and in a package more akin to games from 10 years ago.
It's a legacy map, one that most players have in early versions, characters are from payday 2 packs.. they need to break fresh ground damn even I can give you a plot rather than serve up past content.. how about a heist where there are two rival gangs after the same loot.. and conditions change.. how about a heist where day one sets the stage for loud or stealth ..how about NEW Characters with new skills and background .. I played this it's no different than the original which is good but why do I need it ?
BRAND NEW HEIST. BRAND NEW
Knowley calls it trash, you call it amazing. What is happening lol
@@sergentoddball3617 he didn't call it trash, he noted a lot of similar issues I had but they impacted his opinions more. He did, however, make a few good points I hadn't considered.
holy shit this looks amazing im so glad payday 3 are finally doing totally unique heists and not just being recycled trash...oh....oh this is recycled trash? well..damn it..
Oh ok then
Go play launch payday 2 then
With 4 of the exact same heist.
@ChaoticMess5618payday 2 a year into development had much more to offer. Stop inhaling the copium so hard.
I retain my hope for the game, despite everything. Best way to avoid negativity is ignore the subreddit, so... Guess I won't open that for a while.
You might not want to open that ever. You might also want to avoid payday youtube content. Just separate yourself from the community completely.
What if that "new life service thing" is the next payday thing, i dont see how tho, but i mean, payday 3 was soo badly received, and is still doing pretty bad, so what if they are actually prioritizing those new things, and in the case im right that means they are still putting payday as one of their top priorities, just not payday 3. i mean, with all the hate that game is getting, i can see why they wanna leave it behind and just start over on whatever payday is gonna be next. skipping to the next thing instead fixing what might be unfixable.
All the hate can be positive if the devs and the company bothered to make an actual decent game and not a half baked prototype. It makes sense to give up on pd3 seeing how incompetent the company and devs are. However with their level of incompetence, their future IPs are doomed to fail.
If you say so !!!
Than you .
Nah, this game is dead.
Yeah, for the 2 PD3 players, this is great. A lot of the fundamentals need to be reworked but I dont trust the devs to actually cook up good mechanics.
At 3:20, the lmg is reloaded super fast with only Edge. what happened?