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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • For today's video, we'll be discussing the controversy surrounding the very well known fursuit maker known as DontHugCacti! Let's dive in!
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Комментарии • 764

  • @MarcusBlueWolf
    @MarcusBlueWolf 3 года назад +1348

    Being caught grooming minors and raping dogs isn’t exactly “controversy” it’s criminal

    • @Jynxxx5
      @Jynxxx5 3 года назад +79

      @Aero Husky grooming is illegal if you’re caught. Raping dogs is a crime.

    • @lonely_saturn
      @lonely_saturn 3 года назад +43

      @Aero Husky Grooming is a crime in the US.

    • @Naranylla
      @Naranylla 3 года назад +42

      We do need to keep in mind these are still allegations, I think that's why he use "controversy". Along with the youtube censorship system. They do look pretty incriminating so far though.

    • @swimmingbird243
      @swimmingbird243 3 года назад +16

      @@Naranylla honestly, as much as I understand calling them allegations however there is enough evidence presented for it to go beyond just allegations.

    • @Jynxxx5
      @Jynxxx5 3 года назад +13

      @@Naranylla not really, a lot of people who worked for DHC said something about it and that can be taken as proof because they were witnesses and were around Lucky.

  • @TheFoxFromSplashMountain
    @TheFoxFromSplashMountain 3 года назад +613

    Being in this fandom has taught me a very important lesson. Don't. Trust. Anyone. It seems almost every day, one of my favourite furs are being outed as disgusting creeps. It's the reason I'm not very active in the fandom anymore, it's just disturbing to think how many of these people are hiding right under our noses.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 3 года назад +71

      Not trusting anyone isn't good. Everyone needs a support circle to get through hard times. If you don't be vulnerable with anyone, the isolation will kill you. We're social creatures. Putting up walls just... isn't a good idea.
      Edit: Also, oneself isn't wholly trustworthy, we are our own worst enemy most times; that's why true friends are there, to show you love when you can't do so yourself.

    • @FruitBatsLyra
      @FruitBatsLyra 3 года назад +59

      @@RosheenQuynh I agree, but also just be aware. Trust people, but don't be blind to any wrong doings that they may be committing.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 3 года назад +32

      @@FruitBatsLyra As someone who was betrayed by someone I wasn't expecting to be betrayed by, I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. I think the important thing to do is to trust cautiously. Until there's definitive proof a person will be a forever friend, you cannot trust completely. My forever friends gave me proof so I definitely trust them completely with my life.

    • @ThaneOfLichen
      @ThaneOfLichen 3 года назад +2

      Wait who else was outed? I love under a rock srry

    • @TheFoxFromSplashMountain
      @TheFoxFromSplashMountain 3 года назад +16

      @@ThaneOfLichen There was a huge Telegram chat leak back in 2018 which exposed a whole bunch of furs as zoosadists, one of which was Kero The Wolf, who was a well known fur. I won't detail it here, but let's just say, the people in that chat are some of the most depraved, psychotic subhumans in the fandom.

  • @antlercatler
    @antlercatler 3 года назад +400

    It's heartbreaking when creators that you love and look up to turn out to not be so great

    • @clayforge4336
      @clayforge4336 3 года назад +8

      I know

    • @hoteltoons3015
      @hoteltoons3015 3 года назад +6

      @Clay Forge
      Yeah just like the biggest lying scumbag Hopeless Peaches! ^^ Idk this person that makes fursuits,the only people i am familiar with furries are SparksFur and PandaPaco. I don't buy fursuits or cosplay i just draw furry ocs. This is terrible to hear from! Those poor cats!

    • @MarcusBlueWolf
      @MarcusBlueWolf 3 года назад +10

      Exactly why I don’t idolise “popular” furries

    • @goldenwolf2462
      @goldenwolf2462 3 года назад +6

      I love don’t hug cacti there suits are amazing and adorable seeing this about dhc upsets me

    • @malikharrell2488
      @malikharrell2488 3 года назад +6

      I feel you. I've always checked her out on Instagram. Even followed her. As an artist myself and a lover of furry art, I loved seeing the many artworks that she posted on there along with her cute fursuit pics. Then all of this happened. Like this caught me by surprise. I didn't know her all that well, but from what I've seen publicly, she seemed like a caring sweet woman with a love for art and fursuit design. At least thats what it looked like on the outside anyway... Who knew she would be guilty of doing such sick things. Its the kind of behavior that gives us furries such a bad rep. Its so sad to see cause I liked her at one point. Now I'm just disappointed and I hope she gets help. I'm glad her former friends came together to put it out there warning other furs that she's doing these horrible things and needs to be stopped. Its just one of those situations where you also have to stop and ask yourself "Why did it take them so long to bring all of this to light?" I mean I guess they had to gather the evidence and stuff, but have they just been allowing her to do this all this time if they were aware of it? Cause from some of the evidence I've seen, some of it dates back almost a decade ago.

  • @invaderhorizongreen8168
    @invaderhorizongreen8168 3 года назад +504

    Honestly it really sucks to find out an artiest or maker you looked up to turns out to be absolute toxic garbage.

    • @brucebowman1479
      @brucebowman1479 3 года назад +5

      Ikr. I feel you.

    • @malikharrell2488
      @malikharrell2488 3 года назад +21

      For real. Its just like when you find a RUclipsr who is cool, funny and entertaining, just to find Expose videos about them. Then suddenly you find expose videos of the very person who was exposing that RUclipsr and so on. Like is there anyone we can trust these days? Or do we all now have to just expect them to be hiding some horrible dark secrets behind a pretty smile? (Or in this case, a pretty fursuit)

    • @canyounotmydude9155
      @canyounotmydude9155 3 года назад +7

      Cryaotic, Cosmodore, Mini Ladd, CallMeCarson, JinBop, EDP445, Mandopony, Shane, John Bob, Narpy, and probably millions more to come this year.

    • @bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721
      @bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721 3 года назад +2

      Mandopony, Ino89777, Kittydog, Synnibear03, Lovely Lauren, Nos Hyena and... Those are the only ones I can think of at the top of my head.

    • @Sylveon474
      @Sylveon474 3 года назад +3

      @@bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721 what did ino do?

  • @I_am_Cheesecake
    @I_am_Cheesecake 3 года назад +868

    Thanks for spreading awareness about this issue! It’s important that furries know what kind of people they’re giving their money to!

    • @vert7884
      @vert7884 3 года назад +8

      I like your name

    • @omegacenturion6508
      @omegacenturion6508 3 года назад +6

      @@vert7884 He is cheesecake

    • @FoxInnaHat
      @FoxInnaHat 3 года назад +6

      Sergal energy is strong in this one

    • @amerisartanimation
      @amerisartanimation 3 года назад +3

      Only some of them or bad, not all of them!

    • @skiebleu2363
      @skiebleu2363 3 года назад +2

      @@amerisartanimation yeah we cool 😎

  • @NeeraTheLynx
    @NeeraTheLynx 3 года назад +728

    And of course haters will see this and pin every furry as a terrible monster, no matter who you are. Furry or not there is no justifying this disgusting act, I had to unsubscribe a RUclipsr that I knew for years because there’s allegations of them...uh going after the younger fans.

    • @FlyingCougar42
      @FlyingCougar42 3 года назад +34

      Same. I used to love his content but I can’t support him any longer.

    • @snailkat
      @snailkat 3 года назад +29

      Imma wait until people come to furries comments and say “ FURRIES ARE GROSS AND EVIL”

    • @mustardman9178
      @mustardman9178 3 года назад +6

      @@snailkat I mean you ain’t wrong

    • @blueberrypitbull87
      @blueberrypitbull87 3 года назад +12

      But, are the allegations true or false allegations? Because we are living in a culture nowadays that, people are being falsely accused of stuff they didn't do. Especially with men. And people always deem men to be guilty no matter what.

    • @NeeraTheLynx
      @NeeraTheLynx 3 года назад +21

      @@blueberrypitbull87 there was a video about them and their friends coming out saying the allegations are true.

  • @inactive.mp4
    @inactive.mp4 3 года назад +66

    Lucky's "boyfriend" is actually her spouse. They're married.

  • @tooshrimpleforit
    @tooshrimpleforit 3 года назад +81

    literally just appeared in my recommendations
    no clue who you are
    no clue on what even this is about
    *but that Mario Kart gameplay gives me so much nostalgia holy crap*

  • @IndieTimberStudio
    @IndieTimberStudio 3 года назад +105

    Before this Google docs had shared, there is one DHC suiter I did interacted that I didn't know he's a P and Z which I avoided him and I almost quit being a furry. I'm still part of the fandom but I'm still trying to forget that situation.

    • @U.R.coolkid
      @U.R.coolkid 3 года назад +20

      I hope you're able to heal from such a traumatic thing, that just sounds horrible to interact with anyone like that :(

    • @IndieTimberStudio
      @IndieTimberStudio 3 года назад +20

      I also forgot to mention: I did talk to my parents, my therapist, my former college friends, and my local furry discord group about this situation.
      I'm planning to make a video about this but I have to wait for the perfect time.

    • @Mal-ou8yl
      @Mal-ou8yl 3 года назад +15

      Oh my God that’s horrible. I hope your doing better and have recovered from that situation.

    • @bigytutoshd5146
      @bigytutoshd5146 3 года назад

      @@IndieTimberStudio is he in jail now?

    • @IndieTimberStudio
      @IndieTimberStudio 3 года назад +1

      @@bigytutoshd5146 I have a friend who either work/major in the justice system (I'm not sure exactly). He actually helped my other friend and I to report the situation. Right now, we're waiting for the news/updates.

  • @weasel1822
    @weasel1822 3 года назад +58

    Oof the furry community is already crucified enough with misinterpretations from the media and ignorant people enough. When we got people like Lucky hiding amongst furries just makes things worse.

  • @tentaclewoof
    @tentaclewoof 3 года назад +44

    I'm sure someone else has mentioned this, but Lucky has responded with a 25 min video that basically cherry picks info and stretches the truth to make herself out to be the true victim. Instead of taking responsibility, she blames cancel culture, brushes over most of the claims in the document and even tells Quetins to "donate that GoFundMe money to charities that help REAL victims :)" at the end. At no point does she apologize in it either, so take that as you will

  • @silly.bear.dude6907
    @silly.bear.dude6907 3 года назад +23

    animal abuse is not controversy. It’s illegal. Grooming adults and especially minors isn’t controversy. It’s illegal. There is no way to defend DHC. She needs to be taken from the fandom and put in jail. Thank yew for listening to my Ted talk ✨⭐️

  • @grovitron
    @grovitron 3 года назад +292

    Dont call this a controversy, these are serious crimes that hurt many innocenet people.

    • @Geidi174
      @Geidi174 Год назад +2

      Sounds like a controversial topic.

    • @durhamsaber
      @durhamsaber Год назад +4

      @@Geidi174 Sounds like they need to be held to account in court of law, as opposed to the court of public opinion. If Lucky is guilty, the evidence should support this and the case would lead to a conviction. HOWEVER, it's been years since this was put out yet (AFAIK) Lucky hasn't been charged with anything. -- For THIS reason, I'm concerned that the people involved don't have concrete evidence to support the accusations. In other words, it's all hear-say. -- And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't believe that Lucky's off scott-free, BUT rather that we need to get our crap together if we want to affect real change.

  • @jeice-sonocteer1199
    @jeice-sonocteer1199 3 года назад +69

    I’m not exactly a furry community member, but this sort of content and discussions remind me that not every person in any community is a saint.

    • @H3XED_OwO
      @H3XED_OwO 2 года назад

      Thank you for not overgeneralising!

  • @ekholocation4574
    @ekholocation4574 3 года назад +69

    I've heard rumors about this but holy shit

    • @malikharrell2488
      @malikharrell2488 3 года назад +7

      @Warpath :3 Eh, Idk about that. This occured back in September and looking at both sides of the situation, the evidence seems solid as much as I want it to just be a rumor. Its so sad to see stuff like this happen. Trust is becoming less and less of a possibility. Next thing you know our own families will be plotting against us. Smh.

    • @scorchclasstitan6727
      @scorchclasstitan6727 2 года назад

      @@malikharrell2488 that’s already been happening :P.
      It’s called capitalism.

  • @FoxInnaHat
    @FoxInnaHat 3 года назад +36

    being a new furry and seeing stuff like this kind of scares me, my interest was for a more cutesy wholesome reason, I'm not sure how much of the fandom of this kind of stuff takes place in but I really hope that it's just a small minority.

    • @Here_is_Waldo
      @Here_is_Waldo 3 года назад +12

      Very small minority, no bigger than any other fan base really. That's just what happens when so many people are part of a group; there's always a chance one or two will be up to questionable behaviour.

    • @fallen_vague28
      @fallen_vague28 3 года назад +7

      It is small, but the splotches and stains are well spread out. I guess the best advice to give is to be what you want, and follow whoever you want, but to also be mindful and aware of who you look up to

    • @JustAPairofLegs
      @JustAPairofLegs 3 года назад +2

      I use to say I was a “furry” but not anymore I’m done with the furry community there is nice people but majority is just cringe and Terribal

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 3 года назад +145

    Ok, I'm going to be blunt...
    ...If Lucky was actually killing animals and showing no empathy towards her friends, she may actually be a sociopath, and unfortunately the only treatment for that is the kind of treatment that involves a very long stay in a clinic.

    • @mr.x2567
      @mr.x2567 3 года назад +5

      Or death of course

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 3 года назад +28

      @@mr.x2567
      No, we are not killing anyone.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 3 года назад +6

      @@Mayo-hd4wi
      I said "may", not "is". Bit of a difference there.

    • @mr.x2567
      @mr.x2567 3 года назад +6

      @@VestedUTuber but sociopaths can’t be cured, and we can’t let them just run free...

    • @mr.x2567
      @mr.x2567 3 года назад +2

      @@Mayo-hd4wi I’ve wanted to die for a while, and I suffer by the hands of sociopaths.

  • @iaminhere6022
    @iaminhere6022 3 года назад +35

    Seether of Cord the spiller of tea, bringer of good vibes and a sona to hug.

  • @James-ro7rx
    @James-ro7rx 3 года назад +130

    I hate being a fur when stuff like this happens constantly.....it just makes me want to just leave the fandom completely

    • @RUBYthedragon
      @RUBYthedragon 3 года назад +49

      Nah.This has been an amazing example of the good in the fandom. When one person came out as bad thousands stepped up to show support for victims, and hundreds 'put there money where there mouth is' and raised funds for Queten's legal defence. This is a glowing example of the good in the fandom. We lifted Lucky up because we belived in her. We shouldn't be ashamed of that. And we can hold her accuontable for her actions the way no other community can. Fandom is good, don't let one bad person ruin it for you when hundrends more are good people.

    • @pikaperishock1478
      @pikaperishock1478 3 года назад +18

      Unfortunately stuff like this happens in a lot of fandoms to be honest, I mean ones they have lots of kids or just people in it are going to have that bad group.

    • @jazzratoon
      @jazzratoon 3 года назад +12

      I don't think the furry fandom is only of doing shady stuff.

    • @JotaroKujo-sx9hi
      @JotaroKujo-sx9hi 3 года назад +11

      @@jazzratoon yeah.. the anime community

    • @basilmybeloved7170
      @basilmybeloved7170 3 года назад +1

      I left thw furry fandom because of people like this and the toxicity. I think its worth it to leave and u should to..

  • @PaintedBB
    @PaintedBB 3 года назад +11

    Seeing how cute the first Lucky Coyote fursuit is is what got me into the fandom, like 15 years ago. It's terrible finding out this about the creators :c

  • @hokageobama4003
    @hokageobama4003 3 года назад +17

    If someone ever deserved the title 'Super Villain', this person would be it.
    As a outsider of the community, it's unfortunate that people see this and link it to being a furry. It's essential to linking video game violence to real violence.
    It seems to me that the community as a whole are quick to block out those who do such inhumane things, no matter who they are within the community.
    I wonder how much better society would be if we did this to people of higher stature?

  • @nomore9655
    @nomore9655 3 года назад +43

    I've also been hearing that a lot of other people have been hating and telling other people who have Don't Hug cacti suits to get rid of them you gotta realize suits cost a ton of money personally I don't know how much Don't Hug cacti size full suits or even if they do make partials I don't know how much they cost either way there a lot of money in those suits is that person's beloved character just because the company did something bad stuff that they should not have done at all that doesn't mean that you can just go tell people to get rid of their suits their literal children so please don't tell people to get rid of or burn or throw away their suits or sell it just because the company did something bad

    • @STAMPLETTERSAAAA
      @STAMPLETTERSAAAA 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, it'd be like telling someone to vomit up their lunch if the fast food joint is controversial/supports controversial topics lmao.

    • @Dhyr
      @Dhyr 2 года назад

      I had one of those suits I had tons of subscribers in tell people found out what she did and they started to unsubscribe me I was like why in tell I saw a video about and I was disappoint very much I loved my suit but I thrown it away because she might have you know what dogs in that suit

    • @maximeleninja4029
      @maximeleninja4029 Год назад +1

      Yeah, it's like you buy a lunch box for school and someone just randomly walks to you and said "throw it away because it is made in China".
      But those people have to learn that you can't save something that is already made

  • @zacharydj12
    @zacharydj12 3 года назад +42

    ngl your character is neat and some of the still images for the character are cute

  • @AuraFerret
    @AuraFerret 3 года назад +35

    I actually saw them at a con... I got a photo with them. Never could’ve guessed.. they were so nice!! But uh...
    I guess they aren’t nice anymore

    • @samuraijackoff5354
      @samuraijackoff5354 3 года назад +3

      Evil is clever and deception is it’s most powerful weapon.

    • @AuraFerret
      @AuraFerret 3 года назад

      @@samuraijackoff5354 yep.

    • @potato-rp2bf
      @potato-rp2bf 3 года назад +1

      To quote Into the Woods: “Nice is different than good”

  • @dontthinkdontthink
    @dontthinkdontthink 3 года назад +43

    I loved those suits and they were my hero...wow I can't believe this- I'm really speechless..-😧

    • @ekholocation4574
      @ekholocation4574 3 года назад +5

      It's like a punch in the gut

    • @malikharrell2488
      @malikharrell2488 3 года назад +1

      @Warpath :3 I know this is off topic but that Loona pfp. Nice ^^

    • @kendingus
      @kendingus 3 года назад +3

      @Warpath :3 You may as well keep it now, it's already there, and getting rid of it would just be wasteful

    • @exist4046
      @exist4046 3 года назад

      @Warpath :3 take it and turn it into something better. You cant help that you didnt know, nor did many other people in general. Dont waste it, use it to bring attention to the issue.

  • @RoseOfEnigma
    @RoseOfEnigma 3 года назад +8

    DHC is like the Onision of the furry fandom and it shows.

  • @Mightyenas_Revenge
    @Mightyenas_Revenge 3 года назад +20

    I don’t know this person and I'm not defending them, but I will say this. A person can start a business and developed a dislike for it as time goes on. Dealing with customers can make you hate them. This person sounds sick.

  • @JinglezDaClown
    @JinglezDaClown 3 года назад +25

    While I do think this is something that needs to be talked about more, calling literal child grooming and zoophilia "controversy" is a piss poor take.

  • @aIchemizedlemniscate
    @aIchemizedlemniscate 3 года назад +24

    off topic but your fursona looks very huggable for some reason

  • @jakherbertson4778
    @jakherbertson4778 3 года назад +7

    Don't even get me started on people doing a freaking podcast with the accused to speak up over the victims. That was the last straw that broke the camel's back for me. I was cautiously optimistic for what they had to say at first but ho boi was I disappointed.

  • @ariusluvsu
    @ariusluvsu 3 года назад +11

    this is disgusting i cant believe i never knew DHC was this toxic

  • @chalcedonyclapper1216
    @chalcedonyclapper1216 3 года назад +25

    Man, I'm honestly pretty damn dissapointed and almost a little mad to hear about this. I hope they can get help and change for the better, if they try they can. But one thing about this that makes me annoyed, is yoy know that this info will get around the internet, and because it's bad news it will gain more traction and be more interesting to normal people. They will read an article or something and then immediately think that furries are terrible. I know that's not the problem right now, but it is annoying

  • @AwesomeRainbowLP1
    @AwesomeRainbowLP1 3 года назад +4

    I spent the past two hours reading some of the Testimonies and I can't imagine the pain and suffering they've been through. This is heartbreaking. I sincerely wish the best for all of them.

  • @Bl4ckC4tsH3ll
    @Bl4ckC4tsH3ll 3 года назад +9

    Yes, this NEEDS to be talked about! This needs to have more attention this is illegal and disgusting, I never heard of this maker but I’m glad because there have been so much hurt done to living people and animals, I hope there all healing and staying strong. I hope the law gets involved with Lucky they are awful and that wasn’t okay, someone is even getting sued all because they were spreading around the information from the document even though they didn’t make it, this person should not be in the fandom nor have a big fursuit maker company this is horrible.

  • @blitzsucksatroblox8211
    @blitzsucksatroblox8211 3 года назад +9

    One day I went on their website looking to see if i can get a fursuit and something was telling me "this person is evil"
    i guess i was right

  • @tristanscrazenanigans1636
    @tristanscrazenanigans1636 3 года назад +7

    I read the story about Lucky was acting like her husband’s friend were cheating with her husband while all they did was work out and got bagels. Just like Dr. Funtlichter has diagnosed someone before, sounds like Cacti has a text book case of “Bitch Be Crazy Disease”

  • @ThePhantomSafetyPin
    @ThePhantomSafetyPin 3 года назад +9

    I don't know how I got onto the furry side of RUclips, but I do have friends in this community and I'm always down for drama. From the perspective of an outsider looking in I can confirm this is exactly what too many people think about the entire furry fandom, and that's just not the case at all. It's extremely upsetting, I don't care who you are, to find out there's a zoophile and groomer in your fandom.

  • @spoon1245
    @spoon1245 3 года назад +22

    Can't believe people held these secrets on what she's done for years, because of fear because they fear of lashback and other stuff. I know I had an issue with a maker and I was immidately attacked. Best wishes to everyone who have been negatively affected by her.
    I dont say this lightly...
    Go to hell, Lucky.

  • @claramiqo7691
    @claramiqo7691 3 года назад +13

    Biiiiig yikes for all this. I don't mind art being done, but doing stuff irl and hurting rl animals? Fuck that noise.
    Also, much like his pawprint statement, don't assume everyone that rps and/or has artwork of such things is a zoophile irl. Art and rp is fictional and should stay as such.

    • @local_anxiety_rat1276
      @local_anxiety_rat1276 3 года назад +2

      Exactly! Its important to remember things like yiff are still characters that can consent and make rational decisions while real animals can not!

    • @claramiqo7691
      @claramiqo7691 3 года назад +3

      @@local_anxiety_rat1276 Exactly! My fursona in feral form is still sentient and can consent. RL animals cannot and to do that to them is legit abuse.

    • @Mistthedummy1029
      @Mistthedummy1029 3 года назад +1

      @@claramiqo7691 SEE this is what I’m talking about feral characters and people who make them get backlash because it’s a “loophole” in reality feral characters have human intellect who can consent

    • @claramiqo7691
      @claramiqo7691 3 года назад

      @@Mistthedummy1029 Loophole my ass. Just cause someone rps a feral doesn't mean they'd ever consider doing such gross acts irl.

    • @Mistthedummy1029
      @Mistthedummy1029 3 года назад +1

      @@claramiqo7691 exactly! I hate when people attack feral artists on Twitter when they would never ever do things to a real animal ever.

  • @joshbryant1133
    @joshbryant1133 3 года назад +5

    “When you see a good person, think of becoming like her/him. When you see someone not so good, reflect on your own weak points.”
    - Confucius

  • @mrwatch1396
    @mrwatch1396 3 года назад +3

    Finally nice seeing someone explaining what’s going on as i was surprised no one had talked about what’s been going on.

  • @Sebastian_Michaelis
    @Sebastian_Michaelis 3 года назад +7

    Really happy a youtuber is addressing this!

  • @SP1D3Rstudios
    @SP1D3Rstudios Год назад +2

    even watching this back two years later i still think the way you explained deadnaming was perfect, me as a trans person appreciates it a lot

  • @pengudatu
    @pengudatu 3 года назад +2

    As an owner of 4 beautiful loving birds this really broke my heart, i can't imagine what goes though animal abusers heads

  • @flinticusmaximus5687
    @flinticusmaximus5687 3 года назад +7

    I've been in the fandom for almost 11 years, when the FUCK did the paw print because a symbol of zoophila

    • @chumii5678
      @chumii5678 3 года назад +1

      Uhm, it's very specific placement and color though. It doesn't mean that anyone with a pawprint on their sona is a zoo.

    • @flinticusmaximus5687
      @flinticusmaximus5687 3 года назад +1

      @@chumii5678 where's the placement and what's the colour?

    • @chumii5678
      @chumii5678 3 года назад +2

      @@flinticusmaximus5687 black paw on the spot where a dog would place it's paw if it was on top of you.
      It's also about the size of the animal's paw.

    • @flinticusmaximus5687
      @flinticusmaximus5687 3 года назад

      @@chumii5678 ahuh

    • @LuckyLittleLoki
      @LuckyLittleLoki 3 года назад

      Same except for me it's been 13 years 😭

  • @thatgazelle2001
    @thatgazelle2001 3 года назад +26

    I'm sorry Seether I love your content and I know you are very cautious with people being angry at other people but we need to draw a line somewhere otherwise people like this will think they stand a chance. Lucky I believe is someone who yes indeed should be distanced from the fandom and never let back in. People like this have been told to "see a therapist" over 50 billion times, they don't give a shit, they've had more then one chance to redeem themselves. People like this are so stubborn in their ways that unfortunately they just can't be helped so yes I think she should RESPECTFULLY be removed from the fandom because these are the people that hurt it. People should get the information about her out there and after it's wide spread... ignore her, forget she was ever part of the fandom, if financially possible people stop wearing her fursuits, remove photos of her from a Furry social medias, just make it like she was never here that's the best way to do it and it works. I just wanted to get this off my chest I know you don't want your channel be depressing or aggressive but Seether lines must be drawn at some point and some people don't deserve a second chance... because they've already wasted hundreds of them

  • @fuilli
    @fuilli 3 года назад +5

    I think there's another way to stop that cease + desist
    ctrl - c, ctrl - v
    just copy it SO MUCH that DHC can't even send out enough cease + desist papers to stop it
    basically, just pull a Streisand effect on it
    (tho do still support the original source, I mean I do it with art (linking back to the original post/artist), and doing it with this will probably do much more than I can (don't have much cash to spend rn))

  • @Veiraviss
    @Veiraviss 3 года назад +7

    I feel bad for people who own fursuit made by DHC and they probably love them and now uhh...

    • @trustweb99
      @trustweb99 3 года назад

      Some of them prominent members too

  • @KacemiHezo
    @KacemiHezo 3 года назад +18

    Howdy!
    I saw whole video and I come with a question if I can make my own, based on your video, but in Polish, because there are a lot of young furries in Poland who want to buy a lot of suits from this person and I would like to warn them ^^

    • @SeetherCord
      @SeetherCord  3 года назад +8

      Yeah sure go for it! ♡♡♡

  • @Insanitypup
    @Insanitypup 3 года назад +2

    I wasnt able to complete reading the document myself, so I highly appreciate your video high lighting the main /important facts.

  • @rorrim0
    @rorrim0 3 года назад +5

    "Why start a business when you're aren't enjoying what you're doing." Because its extremely easy to make money off furries, and its extremely easy to dislike furries.

  • @muzunomi
    @muzunomi 3 года назад +4

    I have a paw print tattoo on my arm and...I've been accused of being a zoophile by other furs because of the tattoo.. I just wanted to get a tattoo for the fandom and instead I got attacked :c

    • @lee_aveittome
      @lee_aveittome Год назад

      I'm so sorry that happened to you. :( honestly this is why I'm concerned to get a paw print tattoo. I wanted one as a memorial for a dog that passed but being a furry I didn't want to be associated or accused with/of being with zoos

  • @KaraMagpie
    @KaraMagpie 3 года назад +3

    That's awful... thank you so much for sharing this information with us, we need to be aware of people like Lucky.

  • @lizarr7176
    @lizarr7176 3 года назад +5

    I'm sorry, but if all the allegations being made against DHC are true, they do in fact need to be "run out of the fandom" as it was put. They should not be allowed to participate in any kind of community, period. Online or otherwise. And it should be made illegal for them to own, foster, look after, or work with any kind of animals for the rest of their life. And they need to face criminal charges for what they have done in regards to sexual assault, activity with minors, and animal abuse and neglect.
    These are not the kind of things we should grant any kind of understanding, lenience, or second chances towards. Once law enforcement is brought in, if they say DHC should be granted a second chance in certain areas after x amount of time in therapy or with some kind of restraining order or whatever, THEN we can talk about understanding and a gentler approach. For those who feel comfortable doing so.

  • @dougloremaster7413
    @dougloremaster7413 3 года назад +6

    I am not a furry. I can, however, respect one who has a passion for their fandom and a moral compass. Also, your avatar is exceedingly well done; not too gaudy or outlandish but unique enough in color scheme to be eye-catching. I look forward to more of your videos. You have my sub.

  • @brandonwadsworth7475
    @brandonwadsworth7475 3 года назад +4

    Sounds like we have a psychopath

  • @ArantiusVulpes
    @ArantiusVulpes 3 года назад +4

    As a DHC suiter does this now mean we will be hated on? :( have been one since 2011

  • @apollosunshine3375
    @apollosunshine3375 3 года назад +51

    It was wondering what that was all about

  • @ax-50
    @ax-50 3 года назад +1

    I know this hits hard, but reality can sometimes be painful. Anyone who had been hit hard by this news, I wish you a good and smooth recovery

  • @simonorton
    @simonorton 3 года назад +3

    I told people about her 14 years ago but nobody listened

    • @kthekirin
      @kthekirin 3 года назад +2

      I'd be interested to hear your story.

  • @lachelnderhund
    @lachelnderhund 3 года назад +2

    Main reason I left the fandom
    To much drama, controversy and criminals
    I loved to draw fursonas without being closeted.
    Now because of people like this, I didn't wanna be in a fandom that has terrible, god awful reputation
    The fandom has gotten way out of hand with this...

    • @maximeleninja4029
      @maximeleninja4029 Год назад

      There are lots of good things in the furry fandom, but sadly they get easily taken away by how corrosive the bad side is.
      I would call the furry fandom both a treasure hunt and a minefield.

  • @AlpineMutt
    @AlpineMutt 3 года назад +1

    I've been wanting to know about this for a while, just wasn't able to find the proper source. Thank you so much for making this vid!

  • @fritzedelweiss
    @fritzedelweiss 3 года назад +5

    There are more of those people in the fandom than you'd ever want to know

  • @lawsavior5042
    @lawsavior5042 3 года назад +4

    these are still allegations. the "evidence " being posted on twitter was just a google doc of he said/she said

  • @itsmelee8462
    @itsmelee8462 3 года назад +1

    The rabbit area makes so sad, I LOVE rabbits, and I wanted to cry hearing her poor caretaking of them.

  • @ShadSamD
    @ShadSamD 3 года назад +2

    "Controversy* is a hell of an understatement x.x

  • @malikharrell2488
    @malikharrell2488 3 года назад +3

    I remember seeing that on Twitter. I followed Lucky on Instagram. She posted so many cool artworks and cute fursuit pics, but then September of last year I saw people including furries commenting negative claims about her on her latest post and confused as I was I asked why were they calling her these things, then someone sent me a link to a twitter account who posted her wrong doings. After this incident, she disabled all comments on her Instagram and hasn't made a new post since. Its so sad. I liked her. She really seemed like a genuine person, but then all this stuff surfaced about her and I thought this would be another "Kero the wolf" situations. I hardly use Twitter so I didn't follow this story all that much, but I'm glad you were able to get this out there. I originally thought the people who posted all this stuff was trying to attack her, but watching this video I know that's not true. I don't want to hate her, but Lucky needs to seek help. What she's doing is just horrible and unacceptable.
    Edit: Lucky has put out her statement on RUclips and I think everyone should hear her out too.

  • @ragemutt5372
    @ragemutt5372 3 года назад +4

    Nah listen, we DO want to run people like this out of the fandom. We should not tolerate Zoophiles AT ALL. Forgiving them and being soft on this shit is why people think we're all Zoos and I want no part of it. Lucky should leave the fandom and concentrate her skills on other shit, maybe thinking about animal related content less will help her in the long run.

  • @JinxNightcore
    @JinxNightcore 18 дней назад

    I can't understand how people can do things like this it's absolutely disgusting and sad

  • @maximilianf.4236
    @maximilianf.4236 3 года назад +3

    Also, if the lawsuit by lucky comes through and the creator of the google document has to take it down: *YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE GOOGLE DOC AS PDF OR WORD FILE* so if the document gets taken down you still have it locally and can share the information.

  • @PercydeRoloFangirl
    @PercydeRoloFangirl Год назад +3

    Why do German Shepherds always get targeted by zoophiles which is especially horrible since they're really smart dogs one of the smartest breeds.

  • @Sniwott
    @Sniwott 3 года назад +11

    Nearly 11k subs 👀

  • @just_some_furries1484
    @just_some_furries1484 3 года назад +31

    Personally I think this video could have shown WAY more proof (like stuff on the birds she resold etc) // but I understand that this was probably a quick video to just bring attention to the situation rather then a breakdown and proof

    • @ShiitaKitsune64
      @ShiitaKitsune64 3 года назад +12

      I think Seether also has to be careful about what he shows on RUclips. I think he also wanted to talk about this topic to all ages without showing or saying anything too traumatizing, and for that I think he did a good job.

    • @just_some_furries1484
      @just_some_furries1484 3 года назад +2

      @@ShiitaKitsune64 yeah but if you don't read the article yourself or inform yourself this video does a terrible job of saying what they actually did in my opinion. Like I feel like I'd have to watch 6 more videos by other creators to get the actual information lol

    • @ShiitaKitsune64
      @ShiitaKitsune64 3 года назад +6

      @@just_some_furries1484 I suppose if you're looking for detailed proof this isn't the video for you. But for people like me who simply need the basic information as a brief warning and explanation then I think it's good. We are putting more trust into Seether to get the info right though, but at least it seems very unlikely that he would intentionally try to hide info or deceive others.

  • @undeaddoeinc.407
    @undeaddoeinc.407 3 года назад +9

    I'd just like to mention that Syber (MadeFurYou) hasn't said a word about her best friend Lucky Coyote in this. But did say something about Wild-Life fursuits defending them at first then retracting saying she doesn't support that shit. Sooo.... where's her post on Lucky? Her best friend. The person she visited a lot, invited to her wedding, got suit from AND upgraded? I think Syber has been really quiet about this and that should be brought to light as well.

  • @sheinaragners
    @sheinaragners 3 года назад +1

    tysm for finally talking about this. but i hope people who wear a fursuit by DHC wont be harassed because of this.

  • @celiajcallaway._
    @celiajcallaway._ Год назад +1

    These are the reasons why I don’t like to classify myself as part of the fandom. There is a disturbing number of creepy people like this. Although it is sad how haters can pick this up and label EVERY furry as being like this.

  • @woofnuggiez
    @woofnuggiez Год назад +2

    Why does it seem like every furry I ever kind of liked turns out to be an actual dog f*cker and p3do. It makes me worry about being somewhat in the fandom, is every furry secretly like this? Or does it just end up happening from being too involved in it? I don't know. I have no idea if I should defend the fandom anymore, tbh. I love the cuteness and fun of it, but I can't associate myself with these kinds of people. :(

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 3 года назад +2

    Some of this reminds me of stuff that happened to me with a certain MBPanther/Smatterbrain/whatever she calls herself now. Not necessarily in regards to anything sexual, but more just the whole "getting what they wanted and then shoving them under a bus" thing.
    I know it's not polite to name-and-shame, but holy shit does this get a massive load off my chest.

  • @Rainfromthemoon
    @Rainfromthemoon Год назад

    This makes me so disgusted and sad, I’ve left the fandom multiple times because a lot of people seem to be bad in the fandom…but I love drawing ocs so it really sucks to even be in the same fandom as people like these

  • @zxtempo
    @zxtempo 3 года назад +2

    animal abuse leads to murders right? this shit could gwt wrose

  • @wolfe8035
    @wolfe8035 3 года назад +6

    You've basically made a video about how a highly valued fursuit maker/company turns out to be an outright narcissist.

  • @AlexFiliUK
    @AlexFiliUK 3 года назад +3

    It's really bad what has happened. Staying silent is one thing but the C&D is really not right at all. I hope they reform in the future and acknowledge the facts rather than try to bury them

  • @gemtail3125
    @gemtail3125 3 года назад +1

    She just sounds like either a total sociopath or a narcissist.... Sounds like this one needs therapy AND jail time. I'm really glad I did not follow through with buying a fursuit from them.

  • @starfangirls
    @starfangirls 3 года назад +2

    I have to give a huge shout out for akramshi
    Also him : *thinking of ass*

  • @toenailchomper27
    @toenailchomper27 3 года назад +2

    10:39 I’m sorry, but I don’t want that criminal in our fandom.

  • @benjamingreenwood7370
    @benjamingreenwood7370 3 года назад +2

    I deadass thought from the thumbnail this dude's name was all one word, as "donthugcacti" and read it as "Don-thug-cac-ti".

  • @ThaneOfLichen
    @ThaneOfLichen 3 года назад +3

    Oh no... I absolutely love DHC suits, sad to see one of my faves like this. Oof.

  • @soysaucekitty
    @soysaucekitty 3 года назад +2

    .-. Since 2009 I wanted a suit from DHC.. rip.

  • @ElectroSwingingIt
    @ElectroSwingingIt 3 года назад +1

    Oh my god. I thank you so much for the video and document! I was actually originally planning on getting a fursuit from DHC so thanks for changing my mind before it was too late.

  • @nastymotherfu-7593
    @nastymotherfu-7593 3 года назад +9

    *"Never meet your heros."*

  • @viktornikiforov3602
    @viktornikiforov3602 2 года назад

    ive been friends with someone kind of like lucky, every time one of her friends would try to call her out for acting inappropriate or being rude theyd just lash out. whenever something didnt go her way shed lash out and throw a fit and manipulate us until someone fixed it for her. its been 4 years since i blocked her on everything and... shes not doing well.. some people never change, but karma has a way of giving people what they deserve

  • @EricMadWolf
    @EricMadWolf 3 года назад +2

    I have no idea why this is in my recommendation but, I regret everything.

  • @sassyhusky3168
    @sassyhusky3168 3 года назад +1

    This is really unfortunate, their suits are very HQ and are well know in the community but damn I hope she gets some sense on the type of image she's portraying for herself AND the fandom and changes for the better

  • @Zamerus
    @Zamerus 3 года назад +2

    While it's admirable for them to say not to run this person out of the fandom. Baseline zoofiles don't have a place here, and in my personal opinion *should* be ejected because what they're doing or have done is awful

  • @advertisedmanpower7155
    @advertisedmanpower7155 2 года назад +1

    now ima start claiming people with paw tattoos as zoophiles as a joke to myself

  • @gummy-heart3684
    @gummy-heart3684 3 года назад +7

    you're very, very sweet, seether; but to hate one who has concrete evidence against them for the grooming of a minor and the unlawful acts upon an animal is justified. they deserve to serve a sentence for their actions.

  • @wiibrockster
    @wiibrockster 3 года назад +5

    It's a shame really. I actually really liked their fursuits...

  • @NylaTheWolf
    @NylaTheWolf 3 года назад +2

    This is disgusting...I can't believe that such a big creator turned out to be such a gross person

  • @tubbyqueen
    @tubbyqueen 3 года назад +3

    I don’t think I want a fur suit from them any more.. not if it’s been touched by anyone like that

  • @joshmeister4449
    @joshmeister4449 4 месяца назад +1

    As of june 2024, DHC's twitter page is all but dead, their facebook page is dead, and their FA account is dead as well, safe to say I think they figured out they arn't welcome here.