That Isn't The Right Advice! - Dating Podcast Derails Into HEATED Debate...

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  • @destiny
    @destiny  3 года назад +208

    Zherka's dating podcast part 1.
    Don't spoil who the surprise guest is in the comments.
    Part 2 ►ruclips.net/video/kR1G1cDBVM8/видео.html

    • @persianguy1524
      @persianguy1524 3 года назад +2

      Dude you need to stop pretending that the redpill isnt spot on women and dating, specially in the west.

    • @persianguy1524
      @persianguy1524 3 года назад +3

      I would love to see you debate fresh and fit or kevin Samuels

    • @TreehouseINC
      @TreehouseINC 3 года назад

      i wont PEPE

    • @joshcookify
      @joshcookify 3 года назад +2

      @@persianguy1524 throw in Derek from more plates more dates for a superphysiological take on it

    • @Valkeryu
      @Valkeryu 3 года назад +32

      @@persianguy1524 lmao get over yourself. redpill ideology is trash. none of you are successful, why would anyone take your advice seriously? the "best" of you are the ones taking advantage of the rest of the community to sell them "tips and tricks" and "ten step plans"

  • @roymarshall_
    @roymarshall_ 3 года назад +1367

    Zherka definitely doesn't need any dating advice he has already met the love of his life: his own voice

    • @hemerythrin
      @hemerythrin 3 года назад +5

      TRUUUUUU

    • @angelicking2890
      @angelicking2890 3 года назад +2

      hahaha

    • @rasmus7493
      @rasmus7493 3 года назад +23

      I genuinely fucking love Zherka. Just the brutal honesty is really nice, no matter how much of a ass he is, he holds a special place in my heart.

    • @SuperLotus
      @SuperLotus 3 года назад +6

      Zherka doesn't need dating advice cuz he's a Chad

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +2

      Lmfaooooo truuuuuuuuuuue

  • @eddiecarter8134
    @eddiecarter8134 3 года назад +914

    I think Destiny’s entire point is this: It’s only a game if you’re having to purposefully go out of your way to do these things.
    A lot of the game tactics work because they are mimicking the actual behaviors that highly desirable people do naturally. Steven is saying that is unhealthy because unless you’re doing these things as a natural part of your behavior, the facade can only last so long.

    • @hellacool729
      @hellacool729 3 года назад +11

      Y E S

    • @averagejoe9229
      @averagejoe9229 3 года назад +25

      @@swordierre9341 Who said playing the game is gonna change your physical traits? He's talking about stuff that you can actually improve on.

    • @aydenr5467
      @aydenr5467 3 года назад +57

      @@swordierre9341 I'll simplify it for you.
      It's about whether you are GENUINE or FAKE in how you do these behaviours. If you can be genuine, you'll be able to maintain these behaviours which get you relationships. If you're fake, you'll fail, often.

    • @unclebobboomergames
      @unclebobboomergames 3 года назад +13

      @@swordierre9341 yes that is what we are saying. Playing games and being fake about it (you're playing a game...its fake by definition) Is cuckboy stuff. You'll always get your partner snatched by someone real

    • @Don_C06
      @Don_C06 3 года назад +1

      God like comment

  • @akiltircuit7515
    @akiltircuit7515 3 года назад +870

    Oof. This guy is keeping his chat’s virginity protected.

    • @DrStealthbug
      @DrStealthbug 3 года назад +23

      Then date him

    • @benimagine1377
      @benimagine1377 3 года назад +2

      couldn't have said it better

    • @HOVNA
      @HOVNA 3 года назад +4

      This is so sad. This is how you get useless relationships

    • @MinecraftGod69420
      @MinecraftGod69420 3 года назад +28

      It's funny cuz if he was ugly and had the same mindset he would literally be an incel lol girls aren't onto jon for his smarts thats for sure 🤣🤣🤣

    • @smoqueed44
      @smoqueed44 3 года назад +28

      @@MinecraftGod69420 Okay "Minecraft God". I'm sure you're an excellent authority on what girls are into.

  • @kjk607
    @kjk607 3 года назад +370

    30 seconds in and I can already tell that my current level of Patience is not enough for this video.

    • @cofferxzor5549
      @cofferxzor5549 3 года назад +5

      Same! Omg if i would be in a convo with this guy i would rage from the start.. Does he know how to deal with other people at all?

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 3 года назад

      İ came to comments at min 9 😂😂

    • @distinctisme
      @distinctisme 3 года назад +2

      @@faikerdogan2802 Minute 9 for me too lol. Zherka is entertaining in very small doses but a forum like this, where he's running the show, is way too much Zherka for me.

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 3 года назад +1

      @@distinctisme totally agreed. İ didn't enjoy zherka all that much this show 😅

    • @pedrotherabbit2222
      @pedrotherabbit2222 3 года назад

      @@cofferxzor5549
      No he doesn’t, you must be new to destiny lol

  • @Fevir
    @Fevir 3 года назад +929

    Zherka is entertaining but you can't take him seriously.

    • @Kevvyn-
      @Kevvyn- 3 года назад +68

      He needs to learn to let people speak it is super fucking annoying

    • @tayo17923
      @tayo17923 3 года назад +26

      He's funny AF but the obnoxious interruptions mid sentence have me yelling at him to shut the fuck up thru the screen lol Other than that I love the zherks

    • @zinoubensalah8939
      @zinoubensalah8939 3 года назад +2

      he always pushes destiny's buttons.

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 3 года назад +18

      @@zinoubensalah8939 If he was, he would push them and then sit back letting Destiny vent, farming the lols. The way he keeps talking at him really makes it look like that's really what he thinks and he REALLY wants you to hear it.

    • @thebluepsycho4947
      @thebluepsycho4947 3 года назад

      right

  • @Kornbagpipes
    @Kornbagpipes 3 года назад +200

    Zherka “laying down the facts” about dating while awkwardly trying to hit on someone is the funniest shit.

    • @gountaa
      @gountaa 2 года назад

      Dating and flirting are not the same thing. Also Zerka is a tall, handsome men with a deep voice, he doesn't have to be good at flirting, all he has to do is be somewhat nice and not absolutely retarded and he'll easily get girls.

  • @otmanh
    @otmanh 3 года назад +519

    Zherka: I'll just say it!! MONEY!! that's what girls like the most. Hot Take!! Statistics!!
    Also Zherka: All these millionaire RUclipsrs and editors come to me begging for advice because they're lonely and unsuccessful with women. HOT TAKE!!
    Tim Pool: I'm rich but feminism ruined it for me !!

    • @bigheadrhino
      @bigheadrhino 3 года назад +38

      His ability to contradict himself is insane.

    • @CastrationNation
      @CastrationNation 3 года назад +9

      That is true that he made that contradiction but I think a part of his point was that you need money and his little red pill ideology.

    • @otmanh
      @otmanh 3 года назад +17

      @@CastrationNation Don't make up points for someone when they never made them themselves.

    • @bobsherman3055
      @bobsherman3055 3 года назад +1

      Looks>Status>Money>Personality

    • @charliekowittmusic
      @charliekowittmusic 3 года назад +6

      I disagree with this. Statistics are one thing.
      In my experience, you just need to have SOMETHING to offer. If you have a car and a place to live, that’s something that applies to the most people. True.
      I don’t have that atm. I do have a social situation where I can regularly go, be the star, and get tons of attention, as a musician.
      That works for me. I get to meet and date women who are very attractive and haven’t been without a date since 15.
      For some it might be art. Or writing.
      For some it’s being really funny.
      For some it’s taking care of themselves and working out a lot.
      Bottom line: if you take care of yourself, if you can be somebody people like to be around?
      You’ll do great with the ladies.

  • @jetjet6560
    @jetjet6560 3 года назад +275

    "Honey wake up, there's a new Destiny redpill debate"

  • @mcblu9344
    @mcblu9344 3 года назад +346

    This dude is literally “the mistake” that damn near all girls talk about

    • @furyberserk
      @furyberserk 3 года назад +2

      So not the guys in prison?

    • @mcblu9344
      @mcblu9344 3 года назад +4

      @Matias Martinez yeah your right. I guess if you’re about just getting hoes and being in the hookup culture…..sounds empty as fuck to me though

    • @Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate
      @Molecular-Brainwaves-Translate 3 года назад

      I thought it was interesting how Zherka tried to pull Destiny and Sereda out of the socialist "statistics" argument, and 500 years of women being in the kitchen etc. At some point, most people will relate to dynamics on an individual level, statistics and systemic oppression be damned. That's a challenge that people on the Left (excluding Sereda I guess, i don't know her) should cut their teeth on more often.

    • @RamzaBeoulves
      @RamzaBeoulves 3 года назад +6

      ​@Matias Martinez Being singled out as "the mistake" in a list of partners literally proves the opposite wouldn't it?
      "The" mistake implies literally every other picks were better and that it can only be your most picked option if you never pick anything else.
      It also means it fails miserably at transitioning from dating to a healthy relationship since a success would remove them from the dating pool.

    • @smallbonesrs
      @smallbonesrs 3 года назад

      @Matias Martinez Destiny already said the game works. But you likely wont find a meaningful relationship just by going around fucking people playing games. theres no sincerity

  • @christophzeit6282
    @christophzeit6282 3 года назад +52

    "I may sound incelly but my actions are simpy" has to be one of most cringeworthy sentences ever constructed in the english language

    • @jahfaricoumarbatch3947
      @jahfaricoumarbatch3947 2 года назад +1

      riiiiight?! that hurt my soul cuz incels are cringe but simps are soooooo fucking cringe. like its the groveling for me. Also, how does he reconcile that in his mind?

    • @virgodem
      @virgodem 2 года назад

      Dude that was the funniest sentence I have ever heard lmao.

  • @Visitant69
    @Visitant69 3 года назад +235

    It's kind of sad but Zherka seems to have self esteem issues. Destiny saying "You can play the game and get laid or you can be the best version of yourself and get laid and maybe find a good relationship in the process. Zherka responds in the negative to that. Which might mean that he doesn't believe his true self can attract women.

    • @adamyooz
      @adamyooz 3 года назад +25

      I feel like he’s the fat dragon ball a nerd from elementary school put into an attractive man’s body and he’s really insecure about it

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 3 года назад +9

      @@adamyooz Maybe it's just his voice? I'm an ESL and my gf just overheard me watching this and went: "Is this guy r*******?" simply based on his voice, she can't understand him.

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 3 года назад +10

      @@wisemage0 How so? I would call it ableist at worst.

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +3

      @@bennymountain1 lmfaoooo

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna 3 года назад

      @@bennymountain1 I mean she isn't wrong, it's mean as hell yet when you have the subject manner...

  • @MrProofMan
    @MrProofMan 3 года назад +99

    Sereda: I find poems attractive.
    Zherka: NO YOU FUCKING DON’T!!!!!!!!!!

    • @clarissamarie4605
      @clarissamarie4605 3 года назад +23

      Also Zherka:
      you find ME more attractive than the simps you pay you lol

    • @HistoricaHungarica
      @HistoricaHungarica 3 года назад +8

      Zherka clearly intellectually surpassed everybody and that’s how he knows what other people feel.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +7

      Women are creeped out when an unattractive guy writes her a poem.

    • @RobReith
      @RobReith 3 года назад +12

      @@johnsampson6387 If you've never talked to the girl it's creepy to give her a poem. You need to at least establish some sort of a relationship first. Even just as an acquaintance would be enough, but imagine someone you never talked to just comes up and give you a poem. That's creepy because it means that they've been watching and thinking about you while you don't even know that they exist. That's weird, it would help if you talk to them first.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +1

      @@RobReith I don't know...I'd be flattered to have a secret admirer. It would mean that someone actually liked me for once.

  • @gavinvales8928
    @gavinvales8928 3 года назад +255

    I never understood what "man child" meant, until now.

    • @awsomeboy360
      @awsomeboy360 3 года назад +9

      Until now? The gaming community, online community is filled to the brim with manchilds

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +4

      @@awsomeboy360 idk man the gaming community for the most part engages within good faith acting and most gamer men on twitch are fathers that tend to take responsibility for their children and provide for their spouses. If that’s not peak chad energy, idk what is. Oh yea it’s screaming like an ape cutting people off and enforcing misogynistic tropes right ? Righhhhhht

    • @bobbobby475
      @bobbobby475 3 года назад

      @@singhatar0912 Sheesh wish I was in the same gaming lobbies as you were LOOL. Probably here people getting told to kill themselves at least once a day if I'm gaming.

    • @Bizarro69
      @Bizarro69 3 года назад

      Menchilds abound 😆

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад

      @@bobbobby475 lmaoooo nah their was a fuck ton of that going around too hahaha

  • @mattcoakes5682
    @mattcoakes5682 3 года назад +133

    Destiny: *tries to explain his nuanced perspective*
    Incel brah: "You use too many words, i only accept one sentence explanations"

    • @A_Swarm_of_Waspcrabs
      @A_Swarm_of_Waspcrabs 3 года назад +13

      "THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!"

    • @dininelbourne
      @dininelbourne 3 года назад

      WEEEEEOOOWWWWDIDDLLYDIDDLLYDOOODLYEEEOOOWWWWW!!!

    • @Kev7035
      @Kev7035 3 года назад

      How is zherka an incel?

    • @genzo6514
      @genzo6514 3 года назад +1

      post physique

    • @mattcoakes5682
      @mattcoakes5682 3 года назад +2

      @@Kev7035 around the same time of this interaction he was making some really incelly takes. I wasnt using that label literally, it was hyperbolic.

  • @Real-fussball
    @Real-fussball 3 года назад +81

    Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    I'm farming fucking KEKWs.
    Best poem ever. I'm Dead.

    • @AbtinX
      @AbtinX 3 года назад

      What's Kekw?

  • @saininj
    @saininj 3 года назад +78

    "I'm always hooking up with someone. Always. ALWAYS. My whole life. ALWAYS."
    Damn, I've never heard such obvious cope before.

    • @Don_C06
      @Don_C06 3 года назад +4

      Yeah it was an obvious lie from zherka to give his audience the image of an alpha

    • @Cheese.9898
      @Cheese.9898 3 года назад +12

      @@Don_C06 It's not a lie, but it's his entire problem. From what I remember, Zherka genuinely wants a serious relationship, but seems to be legitimately incapable of achieving that.
      He's a good-looking guy and has some endearing qualities, but he pushes women away from him and self-cucks constantly.

    • @TheFreshTrumpet
      @TheFreshTrumpet 3 года назад +2

      this dude really is a truck nut personified huh

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +3

      Your comment is a cope lmao. It's not that hard to get laid if that's all you want. Being fairly popular, tall and full of yourself doesn't really hurt your chances in that department either.
      Just because you dislike someones personality doesn't mean they're not getting laid. Are we back in grade school? Jesus.

    • @saininj
      @saininj 3 года назад +9

      @@handsomebear. "are we back in grade school"
      Says the guy who literally came in here with a "nah-uh, you". Sounds to me like his cope really did extend to his audience. 😂

  • @mikecurry6847
    @mikecurry6847 3 года назад +41

    Zerka is focusing way too much on the monetary value of the candy bar and focusing too little on the sentimental value of someone remembering your favorite snack that you might not even remember telling them about. The gift isn't at all about the gift itself. The gift is a signal that you're listening to even the mundane things that your partner says which makes them feel important and that they're being heard when they speak. It's the old cliché about the "little things" and all that.

  • @jameverywhere
    @jameverywhere 3 года назад +62

    Sereda had the best take at around 28:08. She basically flayed Zherka alive. You cannot have a healthy relationship without vulnerability and trust--that's just how it is.

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +4

      "that's just how it is." Jesus, that's some grade school level circular logic.

    • @jameverywhere
      @jameverywhere 3 года назад +14

      What? I'm defining "healthy relationship" as "relationship with vulnerability and trust". It's not circular logic, it's a definition.

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +4

      @@jameverywhere *The statement:* "This is how it is" --> *The reason:* "that's just how it is" --> *Conclusion:* "This is how it is".
      The "This is how it is" stands in for "You cannot have a healthy relationship without vulnerability and trust".
      You see how that's circular? Your stated reason or argument for defining it like that is: "That's just how it is".

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +4

      @@jameverywhere I imagine that if someone said:
      _"You cannot have a lasting relationship without physical and verbal abuse-- that's just how it is."_
      ...you would'nt accept that reasoning, not only because it _sounds bad_ but because it's circular. It's just a claim without any apparent basis.

    • @jameverywhere
      @jameverywhere 3 года назад +6

      @@handsomebear. I wouldn't accept that reasoning because I know of plenty "lasting" relationships that do not have physical/verbal abuse. The logic isn't circular though. It's just a claim.
      I'm allowed to make unsupported claims in RUclips comments, lol.

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks 3 года назад +51

    Zherka: Destiny, tell me what you do to get all these girls
    Destiny: _tells him everything and gives really good advice and explanations_
    Zherka: NO EVERYTHING I ASKED YOU TO TELL ME IS WRONG, I ALREADY KNEW ALL THE ANSWERS, YOU ARE WRONG

    • @thefilirivera
      @thefilirivera Год назад

      That's like me giving you a test that asks "What is 2+2?" and then you tell me verbally it is 5 while answering 4.

  • @Dogan_TM
    @Dogan_TM 3 года назад +207

    God damn Zherka can't stop playing a character, huh

    • @karimshebeika8010
      @karimshebeika8010 3 года назад +47

      you either die an actor or live long enough to see yourself become the role

    • @dracula7779
      @dracula7779 3 года назад +5

      Ive seen only one clip where he sounds like a genuinely good dude - talks about a reckful memory, where only reckful listens to him during a party, and later asks permission to put zherka into everland.

    • @tayo17923
      @tayo17923 3 года назад +11

      He just plays it up for entertainment but he def believes most of what hes talking about. The questions and confrontations he has with Destiny are always fun to watch

    • @Daniel-qc7be
      @Daniel-qc7be 3 года назад

      Sadly it'll never top the flat earth debate

    • @stephenvankleeck4801
      @stephenvankleeck4801 3 года назад

      He definitely believes this stuff.

  • @adamcummings20
    @adamcummings20 3 года назад +96

    Zherka is coping so hard with this "trillionaire grindset" - type perspective

  • @TheGIGACapitalist
    @TheGIGACapitalist 3 года назад +146

    8:45 "I'm always with someone"
    Sounds like a dependence on women for validation! CRP moment.

    • @fungdark8270
      @fungdark8270 3 года назад +2

      I’d love to see these women he’s “always” hooking up with.

    • @fungdark8270
      @fungdark8270 3 года назад +4

      @@adamyooz I’m not even insinuating that they aren’t all 7+, just that the quality of individual is probably sitcom worthy

    • @Rose-rx4zn
      @Rose-rx4zn 3 года назад

      Uh oh you said the quiet part out loud

    • @adamyooz
      @adamyooz 3 года назад

      @@fungdark8270 Oh yeah that’s probably true. I thought what you were implying was the “no way this guy fucks” sentiment.

    • @IBBMS
      @IBBMS 3 года назад

      @@fungdark8270 why does that matter or their looks if that’s what he wants? Y’all unironically sound like incels. Go outside/

  • @gregorygriffin9582
    @gregorygriffin9582 3 года назад +101

    Destiny is right about the gifts thing. I've bought my wife several expensive pieces of jewelry throughout our 5 years together, but I've never seen her as happy with a gift as she was with an old book I got her from an antique book store that cost maybe $15. It wasn't even to read, I just thought she'd think it's pretty.

    • @lincabe321
      @lincabe321 3 года назад +12

      You go King

    • @Twistedhippy
      @Twistedhippy 3 года назад +11

      Yeah, remembering something she loved and wanted to buy but thought was too expensive or just too frivolous. Then driving back later that day and buying it for her and surprising her with it.
      That is something I would think very few women experience.
      Its super easy too, takes out the guesswork of choosing something

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +2

      Dude fuck yea

    • @angusmarch1066
      @angusmarch1066 3 года назад +6

      Flexxing on your SO with expensive gifts vs actually putting thought into gifts that show that you know them. A classic lesson.

  • @nightsaus
    @nightsaus 3 года назад +24

    a dating podcast where zherka tells men what women want in the presence of a woman disagreeing with everything he says. incredible stuff.

    • @StoicBehavioR
      @StoicBehavioR 2 года назад +3

      Women will always disagree with a man's perspective of the sexual dating market. Doesn't make him wrong, nor make her right.

    • @FuckinZ3braS0n
      @FuckinZ3braS0n 2 года назад +1

      @@StoicBehavioR it also doesn't make him right either👀.

    • @StoicBehavioR
      @StoicBehavioR 2 года назад

      @@FuckinZ3braS0n Well if you look into other content creators such as Mediocre Tutorials and Reviews, Kevin Samuels, Manosphere Highlights Daily. Melanie King, and Pink Lesson Book ect.. You'll see common themes of what women are looking for, so conceptionally Zherka is right in what he is saying. He just poor with his wording and delivery.

    • @tiktokasylum5186
      @tiktokasylum5186 Год назад

      Never ask a fish bla bla bla lol you know the rest

  • @blujaebird
    @blujaebird 3 года назад +23

    I fell in love at 17 and still together to this day at 25, getting married in two years. Thank goodness I didn't have to do the adult dating BS and deal with dudes like this.

    • @bestdjaf7499
      @bestdjaf7499 2 года назад

      Right away people will ask what he does & maybe about his family.
      When we talk about the arranged marriages, parents are finding the rich family & stable child.
      And you are still young.
      It's very rare when the young people are very successful.
      We supposed to pick at age 28-35.
      If he doesn't, you will dump him.

    • @bestdjaf7499
      @bestdjaf7499 2 года назад

      Example, he is a musician or artist.
      Women love those guys & think they will be successful.
      But if he is still a poor artists after his 30th, you will dump him.
      You will start saying that your clock are ticking & he is unable to provide for the family.
      And he doesn't have to change, but you will hate him.

  • @Nightknight1992
    @Nightknight1992 3 года назад +153

    destiny makes a claim
    beautiful girl confirms said claim
    zherka laughs like a maniac and calls steven a meme

    • @knucklessonic1067
      @knucklessonic1067 3 года назад +14

      @@wisemage0 Thats assuming red pill thinking is what men need

    • @knucklessonic1067
      @knucklessonic1067 3 года назад +10

      @@vic123 well I mean why wouldn't someone want someone else who is successful tho the guy said that her wanting a successful man was fine its okay to want beautiful people or successful people just don't be an asshole to other people and you cant really put all females under an umbrella they are people from different families from different background's I mean that's over 300 million people you are talking about there

    • @Nightknight1992
      @Nightknight1992 3 года назад +5

      @@vic123 im pisspoor, average looking and have a very easy time with girls without playing any retarded games. also the last 2 relationships the girl actually asked me out. whoever thinks just being a likable person (plus tiny factors like hygiene) isnt enough is beyond help.

    • @shrisiva4016
      @shrisiva4016 3 года назад +2

      @@knucklessonic1067 That's rep pills whole point though, improve yourself to be successful because women are attracted to success. What's wrong with that advice?

    • @knucklessonic1067
      @knucklessonic1067 3 года назад +1

      @@shrisiva4016 Red pill gives great self imporvment advice I argree but if you travel to the deeper parts of the community you will see a shit to of mysongny and sexism from my experiance while I think they give great self help you can get that anywhere like from destiny for an example I think there are just better outlets to get help for yourself outside of the red pill community.

  • @TheGIGACapitalist
    @TheGIGACapitalist 3 года назад +153

    Destiny: The game doesn't exists.
    Also Destiny: Beating Zherka at the game the whole time.

    • @RealFreedomMG
      @RealFreedomMG 3 года назад +5

      The clip of Jon showing Destiny's DM's during the podcast was 10/10 memes.
      Destiny is always playing the game lol

    • @virstel1729
      @virstel1729 3 года назад +5

      @@RealFreedomMG He was memeing

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад

      @@wisemage0 Tell that to Destiny :V

    • @LethalByChoice
      @LethalByChoice 3 года назад

      @@handsomebear. That's... exactly what Destiny is saying you shouldn't do. What's your point?

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад

      @@LethalByChoice that he does it...?

  • @subotnai1
    @subotnai1 3 года назад +21

    it's like...Zherka graduated from Bro-university with a masters of Bro-science

    • @bigtombowski
      @bigtombowski 3 года назад

      He's the non tenured assistant professor of b4nGinG now

  • @delorne2776
    @delorne2776 3 года назад +55

    Wow it's really sad that Zherka has only ever known soulless gold diggers his whole life. That's a real shame.

    • @whyno7035
      @whyno7035 3 года назад +1

      No he just thinks they were all gold diggers because they didn’t like who he was as a person

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +1

      Is there another kind?

    • @msgirly6827
      @msgirly6827 3 года назад +4

      @@ddawg3230 this is actually a great point that people miss. You are seeking golddiggers but then get mad at the fact that you get them? Weird.

  • @trippasnippa119
    @trippasnippa119 3 года назад +100

    zherka is frustrating to listen to debate because of how he is just like going on and on talking about his bullshit then barely lets people talk, then ignores their take and goes off on another tangent/ convenientyly misinterprets the information so that it seems so radical and mindless when in reality its very logical.

    • @trippasnippa119
      @trippasnippa119 3 года назад +35

      ​@@azqq1526 Calling Destinys arguments an act is S-tier gaslighting

    • @stephenvankleeck4801
      @stephenvankleeck4801 3 года назад +1

      @@azqq1526 Declaring someone who disagrees with you as “acting” is the absolutely weakest counter argument.
      The dude has shit-tier takes and MANY people disagree with extensive life experience to back it up. He is a legitimate man-child and he’s going to keep banging his head against the wall and giving horrible advice until he grows up.
      He should be asking advice, shutting up, and taking notes. He isn’t ready for these conversations.

    • @AfroAtze
      @AfroAtze 3 года назад +2

      @@azqq1526 No one is doubting that Zherka is successful with women. It's just probably not because of his deep philosophical insights.

    • @stephenvankleeck4801
      @stephenvankleeck4801 3 года назад

      @@azqq1526 You’re literally doing exactly what I pointed out was a shit-tier counter argument. 😂🤣 You’re as confused as little Z.

    • @AfroAtze
      @AfroAtze 3 года назад +2

      @@azqq1526 Isn't that exactly what I said? He is a good looking fit dudebro, of course he will score unless he is actively working to prevent it. He doesn't need redpill, so all the redpill shit he is spewing misses the point. It works for him because he is attractive, he is not attractive because of redpill knowledge. People who are less attractive won't profit because his success lies in his physical attractiveness and not his insight in human interaction, therefore his teachings will fall flat for people with "dating troubles". I find Destiny's approach more reasonable because he is a goblin and is still getting laid, so he must be doing something right.

  • @thatmetalhead9000
    @thatmetalhead9000 3 года назад +79

    being more authentically yourself allows people to open up more to you. like destiny's first example is spot on. if you don't like something say it.

    • @dallasmoorenumberone
      @dallasmoorenumberone 3 года назад +8

      They are both talking about different thing, Steve is talking about friendships and relationships(one night or longer) Zherka hasn't talked to a single girl for more then a week at a time. Just listen to him for more the 5 minutes and you can tell he is hella depressed.

    • @benjaminagostini8
      @benjaminagostini8 3 года назад +3

      @@dallasmoorenumberone Yeah, I honestly have heard nothing from zherka that makes me think he's interacted with any woman for longer than it takes him to fuck them.

    • @wydmark
      @wydmark 3 года назад +5

      @@dallasmoorenumberone discord nerds are always projecting depression lmfao

    • @welly4907
      @welly4907 3 года назад +1

      @@dallasmoorenumberone you are lost my guy they are both making good points. Sometimes your athletic self is a nerd and that's not really gonna help you get a girl generally so you got to play the game or change who you are to get what you want

    • @bla-bla-bla8881
      @bla-bla-bla8881 3 года назад

      @@dallasmoorenumberone the first attack you people use is always a personal one. And it’s always the “oh you’re an incel” without any proof. You never address the point.

  • @TypOnomIcon
    @TypOnomIcon 3 года назад +6

    I'm fairly new to this space, but I have already learned Destiny's greatest strength: Keeping his head from actually exploding talking to some of these people.

  • @Lightningkuriboh
    @Lightningkuriboh 3 года назад +126

    “The whole talking a lot is kinda stupid” ITS A PODCAST

    • @LaSerpentDEden
      @LaSerpentDEden 3 года назад +3

      Both your jobs are to talk. You're literally asking him questions. Wtf

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 3 года назад

      Nothing better than awkward silences in a podcast.

    • @MrDocPennington
      @MrDocPennington 3 года назад

      Yea lol say you can't read without saying you can't read

  • @Drwiggles69
    @Drwiggles69 3 года назад +185

    Zherka is one of the worst podcast hosts I can imagine. And he's hosting a dating podcast? Lol

    • @nicholatemple9296
      @nicholatemple9296 3 года назад +46

      He really thinks he sees the strings that hold the universe together.

    • @WordUser
      @WordUser 3 года назад +19

      I feel like that makes it more entertaining

    • @dallasmoorenumberone
      @dallasmoorenumberone 3 года назад +25

      @@WordUser dumb insecure people make the best content thats for sure.

    • @nicholatemple9296
      @nicholatemple9296 3 года назад +1

      @@soliooss Wait... did you just say he's an alpha male, 300IQ, but he cant make it in streaming because he isn't dumb and insecure?

    • @dallasmoorenumberone
      @dallasmoorenumberone 3 года назад +5

      @@soliooss did i insult your favorite streamer? sorry mate.

  • @LUC0R
    @LUC0R 3 года назад +15

    Relationships are about values. Everyone prioritizes their values differently and they’re attracted to those who exude those dominant values. Make yourself a high-value individual in your way and attract those who prioritize those ways.

  • @frostbite3318
    @frostbite3318 3 года назад +64

    Zherka is so obnoxious

    • @Jaryism
      @Jaryism 3 года назад +5

      He's compensating and projecting this tough guy shit sooo hard, it's hilarious. That sorta "High School tactics" don't work like past 20 years old...

  • @50ULL355
    @50ULL355 3 года назад +41

    Man this shit was fckin hilarious
    A waste of time,but still hilarious lmao

  • @alexeonbel4304
    @alexeonbel4304 3 года назад +48

    When I hear people talk in the way that Zherka talks about dating I immediately cringe so hard. I wonder if they actually take a minute to hear themselves speak.

    • @giantmess4335
      @giantmess4335 3 года назад +7

      he's the kinda person that when it comes to dating, he would rather have someone with no personality interest in money and willing to fuck whenever over someone who would be there if he ever got say crippled by an accident. these people dont date for love or longevity but simply making someone there cum dump( for a limited time) and paying them to do it.

    • @e77gma
      @e77gma 3 года назад

      @@giantmess4335 is one necessarily more desirable over the other? Some ppl look for genuine ppl while others look for cum dumpsters. Both are valid imo.

    • @giantmess4335
      @giantmess4335 3 года назад +5

      @@e77gma true but at the end of your life are you wanting only nieces nephews and distant relatives by your side or family you immediately made from your own ability to find someone and children who may be at your bedside when you finally pass on. it comes down to what you want for now cause most ppl look for instant gratification but later when shit hits the fan who will you have by your side or might your die alone.

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +2

      @@giantmess4335 It's really hard to "date for love or longevity" lmao. _We can't read minds._ Many people are dishonest. It's a lot easier to date for sex cause you can just say bye if they are pretending and actually want something more.
      Didn't Destiny cheat on his baby mama(or was it an earlier gf?) just cause he wanted some different puss. Saying "it's over" first is simp behaviour amirite.
      Zherka has a point when he says Destiny is literally playing most parts of the game. He's even admitted it's to the detriment of some of the people he sleeps with cause they catch feelings, he might not intentionally work on doing that, but he isn't intentionally trying to stop either. He does lay everything out on the table when meeting someone new, which is respectable, but a lot of the girls he's been open about are pretty young and inexperienced and clearly can't handle that kind of interaction judging from the drama that sometimes followed(and that's only with the ones who are vocal about it mind you). With the amount of responsibilities he puts on the average dude that just wants to find a girl it's kinda surprising he is letting, specifically the young ones, walk into that complicated situation he's created for himself. Not saying he's a predator, but sheesh. All that just so he can get a little sexual variety.
      And his excuse is more or less "hey man, It's just how I am, I still get laid so why change~ lmao. Btw if you try to act a bit more like me it's incelly. hurr hurr, everyone who is doing that clearly sits with a check list and expects her legs to magically spread wide open after it's fully checked rite guise hurr durr." Not to mention he did intentionally play the "game" when he wasn't as attractive to women as he is now :V
      Anyway, I personally hate that part of life, the "game" or performative part. I agree with Destiny when he says acting naturally is preferable(I personally include makeup, insane push up bras and hair extentions here, I find it manipulative and plain unattractive, much like I imagine if I was a straight women I would think the same about men who hire cars or lies about who they know etc. to appear more attractive than they are), if I think someone is faking things I quickly lose interest and even thinking about faking things myself makes me cringe so hard I can't do it xd. But let's be honest the majority of people play games to get what they want, in and out of relationships.
      Anyone who dated at all know that people are very willing to engage in small manipulative behaviours(sometimes over years, and no it's not always easy to see when you love someone and don't want to see it) to be more attractive and less abrasive until they get what they want from the relationship, or feel safe in it/okay if it ends(every person is going to say what _they_ do is OK because _they_ know they're a good person, like Destiny with the social proofing thing). But if you're not a clearly desirable man apparently you can't take part in that game without being called all sorts of things. No wonder these people are gravitating towards online extremist communities.
      Obviously all the insanely exaggerated examples Destiny brings up to make it look dumb are not what anyone should do.. I've literally never seen him talk about this subject without throwing these silly strawmen left and right.

    • @giantmess4335
      @giantmess4335 3 года назад

      @@handsomebear. WOW fucking to fuck and never see again is easier than having a real relationship with someone. Imagine that. In America the family structure has become useless in lots of ways, number one nobody really wants true responsibility but have the upsides of having someone they can call for a booty call but a lot of people still want to try for the ideal of having more than just a grave plot and nobody giving a shit they died but showing up so they can pretend to have been close to them.
      Is what im saying controversial to anybody?

  • @Bigblunts613
    @Bigblunts613 3 года назад +22

    Never take dating advice form a guy rocking a muscle shirt with no muscles

  • @alvinoflys7504
    @alvinoflys7504 3 года назад +18

    I couldn't honestly give a shit one way or the other because every person/interaction/relationship has its own dynamic but it just interesting to see how caught up in their own perception of reality people can be sometimes.
    When asked about whether or not women should be equal providers Zherka initially responds by saying "I don't care I'll pay her half" while simultaneously holding the opinion that doing that is incorrect. Meanwhile Sereda when asked about whether she pays rent or provides in her relationship she says yes but with the odd qualifier of her "driving him around, dropping him off, picking him up" with the most derisive attitude as if those actions should NEVER under any circumstances be preformed by the woman.
    Zherka acknowledges the game and how it must be played and that it is the only way to get ahead and isn't happy with it apparently, but he himself is unconditionally paying more than his half. Is he more concerned with getting laid or keeping his ideals straight? Red flag. Sereda is envisioning the world where her ideals of dating are met while her counterparts ideals most likely would not. How can she reasonably expect an equal relationship if she is apparently incapable of driving a person around without the power balance falling heavily in her favour? Red flag.
    They're both guilty of playing the game when they think it suits them best, and the point is: everyone does, so it doesn't fucking matter other than figuring out how and who to play (or not play) your game with.

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +4

      Then we have Destiny who enjoys, is good at, and engages in playing all kinds of social games while signalling to his audience that he never plays anything up for personal gain, outside of all the times he admits to doing just that...but it's obviously for good reason don't ya know, because that would be sooo fake. "Chat, just think of the most extreme incel take you can imagine and that's the person who thinks dating is a game. wink wink"

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      Well...their own perception is reality is all they know. How can they be expected to base their worldview on anything different? Their life advice is going to be based upon the very specific experiences that they themselves have had, which don't necessarily apply at all to the next person.

    • @synlion
      @synlion 2 года назад

      @@handsomebear. Dude how are you this resistant to actual insight? No amount of red pill arguments will change the fact that anyone who actually talks to women seriously knows your worldview is bs.

  • @neverknowsbest1717
    @neverknowsbest1717 3 года назад +19

    Zherka: "What about a plumber who makes $80k a year? You don't want that you want someone successful" I think that's pretty damn successful

    • @TheEndiPL
      @TheEndiPL 3 года назад +6

      Being the best plumber is the peak success, but maybe not to people who view success exclusively through the lens of social media stats, which is sad to see Zherka act like those are the only humans alive today.

    • @Zeeell
      @Zeeell 3 года назад

      @@TheEndiPL
      *"maybe not to people who view success exclusively through the lens of social media stats, which is sad to see Zherka act like those are the only humans alive today."*
      Surely that was the entire point with the description that Zherka himself set up. That Sereda wouldn't be interested in such a plumber, because it might not confer the same kind of social status OR expensive lifestyle.

    • @Zeeell
      @Zeeell 3 года назад

      @@normandy2501
      *"She even said that you can make 50k and compensate for it by how you make the other person feel special."*
      Yes, earlier on in the conversation.
      From memory, when it comes to the plumber-suggestion, Sereda expressed no positive thoughts towards Zherka's suggestion, only skepticism.
      Also, making somebody feel appreciated by being a nice and thoughtful person isn't necessarily the same thing as having a well regarded social status. It might well coincide but you can have one without the other.
      *"You can work on getting more money together as the relationship goes on. Just don't be a leech."*
      I'm curious about this statement. If you're not ambitious enough or don't value more money in the same way, does that make one a leech in your eyes?
      Sereda for instance talked negatively about a frugal millionaire. Is the millionaire a leech simply because they have a different view of money and its uses?

    • @Zeeell
      @Zeeell 3 года назад

      @@normandy2501
      I can agree to most of that.
      I'd just like to point out for the sake of clarity that just because someone wants something from another doesn't mean they can/should try to change that person in order to see that 'growth'.
      There's a clashing of worldviews there where just because somebody is believed to have a capacity for something, doesn't mean you can successfully extract that from them. It may well be some irreconcilable difference between parties.
      In that sense I'm similar to you, in that minimalism is my preferred state of being and acting in the world. For instance, I'd rather be a stay-at-home dad than maximize profit. For some women, that would make me instant 'bum'-status. Curiously, few people call women bums when they would want the same kinds of things.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      @@Zeeell VVomen are allowed to be the male equivalent of "losers" and it's socially accepted.

  • @jvtc
    @jvtc 3 года назад +35

    Dude's with no natural charm or personality have such a hard time understanding how to get women because they see it as a game. The guys that get women regularly don't play games because it just happens naturally. It takes all of this dude's brain power to figure out women, and it's sad.

    • @titanscar2183
      @titanscar2183 3 года назад +12

      Actually great take
      The more you think about it the worse it gets. There are obviously things you can do to help your situation out. Look your best, be respectful, etc, basically being a half decent human being helps. After that it's a matter of either waiting or finding someone who you vibe with.
      If a fat fuck like me can get a girlfriend, with the kind of weird ass retarded personality I have, idk man. I think people just make shit a lot more difficult than it has to be, including myself when I really got into online dating a few years ago. Id be looking up guides on how to make women find me attractive and how certain body language is something they always pick up on and
      No, to get with the girl I'm with now all I did was show her a lot of respect and honesty, asked her out and that was it. I didn't spend 300$ on clothes or use any of the techniques I saw online, I was me, and it sounds cliche by saying "just be yourself" but no really, if you want to have a relationship of any value and meaningfulness just be yourself, and be a half decent human.
      If nobody is interested you're either unlucky or there's something about you that needs improvement. People can absolutely tell when you're not putting your best foot forward

    • @amolpant6291
      @amolpant6291 3 года назад

      If you said a certain type of girl than I would Understand because Zherka is famous for picking up girls in clubs and streets...and there are various IRL clips that proves it... In all his Desktop streams he plays a character and If you can't tell he is trolling than I don't know what to say... he even showed a Discord message between Destiny and him that shows they both planned various parts of this debate for trolling.

    • @wydmark
      @wydmark 3 года назад +3

      Dude ur wife is mid, stop acting like you bagged a 10😂

    • @amolpant6291
      @amolpant6291 3 года назад +2

      @@wydmark 😂🤣😂

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 3 года назад

      @@wydmark But did you see his phone?

  • @psdelux
    @psdelux 3 года назад +40

    Zherka is annoying af. Trying to sound genuine but fails miserably. Just because you talk calmly and stop people from explaining doesnt mean you are "debating".

  • @aspacelex
    @aspacelex 3 года назад +4

    Destiny's point that the game teaches you to mimic normal behaviors without doing any work to actually arrive to them is so good.

    • @suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261
      @suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Год назад

      Jordan Peterson had a great point when talking about competence: you can either legitimately have it or you can simulate it, but smarter or more experienced women will always see right through that simulation. This point was in relation to narcissists/ dark triad types and it’s quite concerning how many people in the red-pill sphere, although not having this kind of personality disorder, are going for the same strategy as people that do simply because they’re being misguided by utterly disfunctional “dating experts”..

  • @jdjenk04
    @jdjenk04 3 года назад +15

    I feel like this Zherka dude’s entire worldly outlook on dating is informed by Hollywood movies and tv shows. Yeah it’s fun to meme it, but there’s no way you take it seriously.

    • @Magiya93
      @Magiya93 3 года назад +3

      He really does have that MTV dating show contestant energy

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад

      Accurate

  • @rhinoboy09
    @rhinoboy09 3 года назад +4

    All the content from one nights shifts worth of livestream , 10pm till 6bst in a warehouse has never been so good !! What a stream

  • @dylansevitt
    @dylansevitt 3 года назад +17

    honestly I miss the Zherka who would debate for flat earth, this red pill character is harder to buy...

  • @SoldierGeneral64
    @SoldierGeneral64 3 года назад +14

    Let's be real neither "being yourself" nor "red pill" works automatically. If you have certain flaws that you accept as part of your personality that do not conform with what is traditionally expected/desired within the market then you aren't going to get in a relationship most likely. Or at the very least it will make it that much harder. Likewise neither such advise would work for someone who is sufficiently ugly or "undesirable" based on modern standards of beauty/expectations.

    • @kingmaho1
      @kingmaho1 3 года назад +3

      I was looking you a comment like this. Why is this so hard for people.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +3

      Exactly. I'm a short man, so I get just as much action being myself as I do following red pilled advice (none).

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +3

      @@kingmaho1 Because people love to believe there is hope and that they are in control of their lives and all it takes is behaving differently or taking different actions.

    • @shrisiva4016
      @shrisiva4016 3 года назад +1

      @isdnYou are speaking anecdotally with a sample size of 1. The general trend is overwhelmingly the opposite. And I'm saying this as a tall guy, it's not hard to see it's harder for shorter guys.

    • @GregXHunterz
      @GregXHunterz Год назад

      damn

  • @Acolyte00
    @Acolyte00 3 года назад +55

    Has Zherka always been this obnoxious? I've listened to him before and he was alright, but for this one he just seems horrible.

    • @GubiYoroi2
      @GubiYoroi2 3 года назад

      he gotten better for sure before he was so much worse

    • @averagejoe9229
      @averagejoe9229 3 года назад +3

      I think a certain podcast further rotted his brain after his unban. I don't know if he's grifting for his incel fanbase, or he's actually genuine.

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +3

      Yea he sounded annoying as fuck in this lowkey

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад

      @@averagejoe9229 was it trains pod cast.?

    • @rll1236
      @rll1236 3 года назад +1

      @@singhatar0912 no. its 'freshandfit' podcast... a literal redpill/incel podcast hosted by dudes who think that women need men to succeed

  • @onepartyroule
    @onepartyroule 3 года назад +19

    Men who splash their cash around to impress come across as insecure jerks. The kinds of men who have status cars and are always trying to buy people are deeply unattractive to me.

    • @Dagdagandag
      @Dagdagandag 3 года назад +4

      Yet they get laid by a certain personality type of woman. These are the worst to date though

    • @TheFreshTrumpet
      @TheFreshTrumpet 3 года назад +2

      @@Dagdagandag and everyone involved will probably end up miserable with a mid life crisis at 38, I genuinely feel for ppl who pull status bullshit cuz boy if that ain’t a tell tale sign of low self-esteem and emptiness. Got a friend like that, he won’t touch that subject with a ten foot pole

    • @rayclam8079
      @rayclam8079 3 года назад

      You have to be attractive to be attractive. Otherwise your money will equate to betabux.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      @@rayclam8079 A tall handsome man splashing cash around is perceived as a baller. A short ugly man splashing cash around is perceived as an "insecure jerk".

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 3 года назад

      Yeah that thing where he was positive the girl would like the thousand dollar gift card over the heartfelt gift. Most women I know would think that was in impersonal gift that had whorish implications.

  • @shadic971
    @shadic971 3 года назад +9

    The scariest part of this video is that Zherka believes in the advice he's telling people

    • @jahfaricoumarbatch3947
      @jahfaricoumarbatch3947 2 года назад

      a lot of people do. besided Cadice owens. its the sell out mentality t hat is the only exception

  • @TheAudioInjection
    @TheAudioInjection 3 года назад +38

    Funny how listening to Destiny talk to Sargon of Akkad or Lauren Southern was infinitely more palatable and enjoyable than listening to Zherka.

    • @God-xw1nu
      @God-xw1nu 2 года назад

      kokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok funny

  • @smoochytehruiner
    @smoochytehruiner 3 года назад +6

    As a guy that has written many poems and made personalized mixtapes for girls in the past, Zherka is absolutely right. That shit does not get you laid. However, Destiny's general advice is pretty much spot on about how to foster a loving and lasting relationship with a partner. You don't have to go all in on 'the game', but you do have to understand the basics to be effective when dating. Any other advice from playing the game is a recipe for a toxic, short-lived relationship. Do what you need to do to get in, but once you're in, be the best possible version of yourself.

    • @StoicBehavioR
      @StoicBehavioR 2 года назад

      Destiny made a poor argument. For one, Destiny was already in a relationship with said women. Secondly, those women already like Destiny. I think Zherka was trying come from a place of starting out from step one. Which is creating an attraction from women. I think they were arguing from two different points it seems.

  • @Tocinos
    @Tocinos 3 года назад +8

    We have determined that "Nononononono" counters "Waiwaiwaiwaiwaiwai"

  • @simian01
    @simian01 3 года назад +7

    My life was better 10 minutes ago before I knew who Zherka was.

  • @peewee130946
    @peewee130946 3 года назад +7

    Zherka definitely doesn’t get laid as much as he says. You can tell by how he replies to the question he get super defensive

  • @PeakedInterest
    @PeakedInterest 3 года назад +4

    There is literally no point talking to this guy. He either ignores things that don't support his belief or he distorts it into something that supports his belief.

  • @SaltyReverend
    @SaltyReverend 3 года назад +9

    Zherka makes it very apparent as to why he has such a hard time with women lmao.

  • @nicholatemple9296
    @nicholatemple9296 3 года назад +77

    Zherka is peak dunning kruger.

  • @mathewburr2126
    @mathewburr2126 3 года назад +9

    Zherka brining content right into my feeeeed

  • @jasonourso8944
    @jasonourso8944 3 года назад +3

    I like this guy Zherka’s energy. I like how much crap they talk and nobody gets their feelings hurt. I wish I could have conversations like this IRL.

  • @MegaEssj408
    @MegaEssj408 3 года назад +12

    Oh wait, where's the second part to this. That shit was too funny.

  • @SurrealKeenan
    @SurrealKeenan 3 года назад +3

    Every time Zherka said "what would you say to people who are suffering?" or whatever, I wanted to ask him what he would say to fat people who tried dieting.
    There's a great analogy between red pill ideology and toxic workout lifestyles. Crash diets make you lose a ton of weight in a short time and so someone might see that and think "that's what I need to be healthy", but people who are truly healthy know that they need to change their whole lifestyle and make sustainable healthy choices and to people on the outside, that might look like they're "playing the weightloss game", but in reality they changed who they are to become a healthy person

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      The difference between redpill and dieting is that dieting works regardless of who you are, but redpill only works for guys who are already tall and good looking enough to women.

  • @bubblegumdukem9758
    @bubblegumdukem9758 3 года назад +22

    Is this the conversation destiny messaged Jon? If so that clip is even funnier

    • @trippasnippa119
      @trippasnippa119 3 года назад +2

      I have no clue but yeah i agree
      Im only commenting for if someone comments the answer 😂

  • @TorqueBow
    @TorqueBow 3 года назад +8

    last time i came this early, my girlfriend was disappointed in me

    • @toxic8065
      @toxic8065 3 года назад +6

      Same she hates me

  • @colinjohnson6454
    @colinjohnson6454 3 года назад +16

    Gotta say, Destiny was in the wrong this time...
    ...for wasting his time talking to this 🤡.

  • @bbmm3811
    @bbmm3811 3 года назад +36

    "John are you currently sleeping with someone?"
    "Yes, uh to be honest I've always been. Always, my whole life, always been hooking up with someone , always. Always."
    That is pure, unbridled Cope.

    • @kyle8971
      @kyle8971 3 года назад +9

      When your attitude is "alpha" but you're actual a "kappa".

    • @bennymountain1
      @bennymountain1 3 года назад +1

      To be fair, he explained that it's a counter-play in case she's implying he was traumatized.

    • @2lostbikes
      @2lostbikes 3 года назад +1

      He *rationalized it as a counterplay because he needed an explanation as to why he ran from the question.

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +3

      You're literally coping in the comment section because you're upset over someone with Zherka's ego getting laid. Get a grip of your feelings lmao.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +2

      I believe it. Women love guys like him.

  • @Abell_lledA
    @Abell_lledA 3 года назад +14

    One is stuck playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self 🎈

  • @supersmoothsully2451
    @supersmoothsully2451 3 года назад +5

    Zherka guy asked Destiny what his insecurity is, while coming off as the MOST insecure person possible the entire interview lol

  • @powercore2000
    @powercore2000 3 года назад +33

    This is the content I've been waiting for. The zerkstiny bromance shall prevail! Prime ribbing being sold here.

    • @powercore2000
      @powercore2000 3 года назад

      Well this was more dissapointing than i expected rip. I thought Zerka would be more CTV energetic than not be able to engage with the topics.

    • @powercore2000
      @powercore2000 3 года назад

      @@wisemage0 Yeah I still like their interactions, but Zerka was less fun here, he and Destiny were kinda talking past each other the whole time.

    • @powercore2000
      @powercore2000 3 года назад

      @@wisemage0 Sereta was the sleeper hit here tho, the wife beater comment was pretty good. Deffo wanna watch the second part.

  • @hartyewh1
    @hartyewh1 3 года назад +7

    Steven and John would make great sitcom brothers.

  • @sHmAaa
    @sHmAaa 3 года назад +8

    You can`t take dating advice from youtubers, don`t even bother. Their platform automatically brings them up in the social game. Its artificial, it mimics good social skills and power even if they are socially inapt.

    • @arcajeth626
      @arcajeth626 3 года назад +1

      They all will hold tight to the pc version of what makes you successful with women... The worst thing to do is to take advice from women on women...
      Though they tend to give good advice on what you should wear and how you should look, the rest of their advice is garbage lies they tell themselves..

  • @niall2451
    @niall2451 3 года назад +6

    this guys views relationships as games, and doesnt realise the purpose is to find someone who you genuinely like and who reciprocates the same feeling, lol.

  • @singhatar0912
    @singhatar0912 3 года назад +8

    I’m gonna be honest, I’m petitioning for Jon to return to his flat earth character rather than continuing this cringe red pill bro character …

  • @Clyemacks
    @Clyemacks 3 года назад +41

    This guy will never be in a healthy relationship. Guarantee you he cries himself to sleep several times a month because he isnt really happy.

    • @IBBMS
      @IBBMS 3 года назад +8

      Not everyone derives happiness from relationships? You sound like a dependent with mommy issues. Maybe go to therapy and figure out why you can’t be happy unless you have a partner and you project that on others. He might be perfectly content hooking up or just having more casual relationships or none of the above.

    • @rendoa556
      @rendoa556 3 года назад +2

      @@IBBMS that wasn't very poggers of you

    • @kevinjohnanand
      @kevinjohnanand 3 года назад +1

      @@IBBMS lol are you ok??

    • @bigdoinkies6362
      @bigdoinkies6362 3 года назад +2

      you cry yourself to sleep when you're not in a relationship???

    • @Clyemacks
      @Clyemacks 3 года назад +2

      @@IBBMS I never claimed that happiness comes from monogamous relationships. I was making an observation from the video, he states that the goal is to win a woman over, in making that his goal he has objectified her like some sort of trophy. This type of thinking will never lead to a healthy relationship (friendship, monogamous, or open/poly) because people arent things to derive resources (emotional, financial, or otherwise) from.
      I'm actually married, spent a few years in a poly relationship, for several years before that I was happily single after a rough relationship.

  • @Maxim.Borodin
    @Maxim.Borodin 3 года назад +5

    I think the first point of beeing genuine is purely one of Kants imperative: to treat somebody not like a mean, but like a goal. So not a mean to get the bed, but to get to know the actual person behind

    • @handsomebear.
      @handsomebear. 3 года назад +2

      That's not very helpful for people who are genuinly unattractive ( ;

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      "...but to get to know the actual person behind"
      ...so the goal is anal then?

    • @shrisiva4016
      @shrisiva4016 3 года назад +1

      Can't "get to know the person" if they reject you at first sight lol.

  • @tkayuniverse3493
    @tkayuniverse3493 3 года назад +6

    Sadly, @23:49 I think I agree with Zherka. Destiny’s poems work because they already like him and want to be with him, for whatever reason.
    A guy who a girl has not determined she has interest for because a lack of status or etc etc reasons, the things destiny is talking about don’t help.
    If a person likes you, a lot of things work for you because of that. If they don’t then trying to engage with them to create interest/ attraction requires some amount of dumb playing of games. Sadly. The person may not even realize it, but society calls it chemistry or a connection or etc.
    truth is, if they don’t already like you, its requires some level of playing games. I can easily say I’ve probably been with more people than the average person, maybe even destiny level and the vast majority of them don’t respond to genuine openness with attraction. They like it, but it doesn’t inherently turn anyone on unless they already like you. They will literally tell you the opposite to your face but then still not fuck with you.
    Everyone I’ve been with requires some level of games. Sad truth. We can say hygiene isn’t games or lax communication isn’t games sure…define it as whatever you want, but you still need to do it. And Consciously if you are like me and naturally prefer to be super genuine and open.

    • @mattmiller9809
      @mattmiller9809 2 года назад +1

      I don't disagree but I think you can get people's attention and "play games" without giving up being genuine. I am genuinely a flirt. I use it to my advantage when getting someone's attention. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But I am not faking who I am to do that. If I get in a relationship, I am just as flirty inside that friendship or relationship as I was prior. But yeah, poems don't work with someone you just met unless you are at Poem Con or something lmao but there does have to be a hook and that doesn't have to lack genuineness (as Zherky suggests). You can be who you are to get someone's attention and that getting someone's attention is "the game" and if you can't hook someone, you have to genuinely change yourself for the better. Women can sense fake shit sometimes and eventually the mask slips anyways.

  • @daxter956
    @daxter956 3 года назад +2

    42:15 The Joker laugh and constant gotcha fishing where he gets his expectations averted every set up question is hilarious

  • @voshi2211
    @voshi2211 3 года назад +4

    "I am more simp-y than incel-y" what a legend 🙌

  • @swagmund_freud6669
    @swagmund_freud6669 3 года назад +3

    It's not about his money it's about how much effort he puts into the relationship.

    • @Solkage885
      @Solkage885 2 года назад

      It that was true why do celebrity men have groupies

  • @mehbutfair
    @mehbutfair 3 года назад +6

    This podcast solely exists for Zherka to get some game, because it's been slow for him.

  • @kylecrowson1417
    @kylecrowson1417 3 года назад +1

    I empathize with Destiny here on this topic, and I think a lot of people don't get it. On everything being a game, social interactions have guides to get certain results, this can be called manipulation here, without the negative connotation. We can discern here that one of those guides is people enjoy what feels natural, which will be what seems less like a conscious effort to manipulate. Like thinking "if I agree with them, they will like me more." Or "if I disagree with them, they will like me more". Because women will enjoy the comfort of being agreed with, AND the excitement of conflicting opinions. Now these things become void if there is any feeling of a facade. If she recognizes that you are taking a conscious effort to get certain results, it makes them feel objectified. If it feels genuine, the excitement in disagreeing, and the comfort in agreement is there. That's why none of this red pill stuff will work on anyone that knows they are just running different techniques to win them over. But you can do the same shit as these fakers and get those results.
    The reason I empathize with this is (and I normally hate using these terms as I don't find they are great methods of describing people) I would be considered a sigma to people who adhere to these hierarchies. This classification I tell people works for attracting women. Because seeming uncaring about winning a woman over, raises your value. BUT, I add as a caveat, that I do not approach women in this manner (which is not approach them at all and being focused on whatever I like at that moment.) out of some conscious effort to make myself seem attractive. If you start acting like a sigma would, ignoring women hoping they will become attracted to you, there are factors involved that might give an unnatural vibe, and it won't work.

    • @ExR0XAS
      @ExR0XAS 3 года назад

      id have to agree. i feel that people shouldnt just bend to the other person just to go along with something since thats not being true to themselves. I hate that this game thing has just become the norm of todays society. like not caring is just cool now. being toxic is fine nowadays and screwing people over without giving a thought and messing around without others knowing is just insane to me. I feel that things like tinder and other things have really impacted how we view todays dating scene. and of course worse values ("values" that being my opinion)

  • @peperoni_slayer8918
    @peperoni_slayer8918 3 года назад +5

    you guys are taking this waaay to serious, this was one of the funniest podcasts in a long time, good banter and memes throughout. Zherka bringing the content back.

    • @peperoni_slayer8918
      @peperoni_slayer8918 3 года назад +1

      ohno, the vid cutoff when infrared joined, this is missing all the memes august

    • @mothgru
      @mothgru 3 года назад

      @@peperoni_slayer8918 August has the content brain. He's for sure making a separate video for when infrared joins.

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад

      @@wisemage0 he used to be a flat earth maga bro.. I’m not surprised lmao. Character or not these people want him off the platform.

  • @user-wu1us1yh3n
    @user-wu1us1yh3n 3 года назад +10

    Top Tier content

  • @jordandowler2344
    @jordandowler2344 3 года назад +22

    if you treat dating and relationships as a game youre literally only going to attract people that are playing the same game. it shouldnt be a game is should just be pure, honest human interaction whats so hard to understand about this.

    • @singhatar0912
      @singhatar0912 3 года назад +1

      FACTS

    • @LethalByChoice
      @LethalByChoice 3 года назад +2

      It's hard to understand because dudes who don't understand that are legit sexist pricks that see women as an objective in a video game rather than a human. That's why this "game" exists to them, because they don't see them as humans let alone human interactions. They're fucking idiots who bought into bullshit red pill mentality and now they'll likely never get into a meaningful relationship because of it.

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos 3 года назад +4

    Like there are people in so-called "lowly jobs" like carpet cleaning who get plenty of babes. But mainly babes in specific social stratas. Not high-end people, but "normal" women. Destiny has a point, this is pretty hyper-specific advice.

  • @jackblack9605
    @jackblack9605 3 года назад +3

    Zherka : Try dating an Electrician or Plumber
    Sereda : Error 404

  • @jakeoshea5863
    @jakeoshea5863 3 года назад +1

    Never seen destiny laugh at someone as much as he does at Zherka. Honestly those two would make a hilarious podcast

  • @jordandowler2344
    @jordandowler2344 3 года назад +3

    who's the woman and why is zherka not letting her talk?

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      Because he's more androcentric than Destiny.

  • @MrTom806
    @MrTom806 3 года назад +8

    I think the most important thing is just being confident in yourself and the words you say. And also understanding that you’re gonna get rejected and to not look at rejection in a super negative way and to try and get some good lessons from all your social interactions.

    • @bla-bla-bla8881
      @bla-bla-bla8881 3 года назад +4

      Generic bs.

    • @MrTom806
      @MrTom806 3 года назад

      @@bla-bla-bla8881 what’s wrong with being generic ?

    • @bla-bla-bla8881
      @bla-bla-bla8881 3 года назад +1

      @@MrTom806 the redpill says the same shit and goes even more in detail

  • @skyefox
    @skyefox 3 года назад +1

    Zherka picked up Tucker Max's dating book and is still living by it to this day.

  • @cmillertime7477
    @cmillertime7477 3 года назад +21

    Never heard of this Zherka guy but he exudes Dunning-Kreuger.

  • @richardson100489
    @richardson100489 3 года назад +2

    "You gotta earn flowers."
    I can't with this guy. He talks so much about the importance of "game" but clearly has zero of his own.

  • @Doschia
    @Doschia 3 года назад +3

    This is the best dysfunctional duo I know

  • @stupafly06
    @stupafly06 3 года назад +1

    Seems like the main debate at the beginning is do you want girls or do you want a relationship.

  • @user-uq4gr5nl5o
    @user-uq4gr5nl5o 3 года назад +5

    Zherka is pure gold. This podcast was the best content in months.

  • @HarryWilmington
    @HarryWilmington 3 года назад

    Facts! It's perfectly fine to have game, and as I explain in my videos, most women PREFER a guy who knows what he's doing and how to attract them vs. those that don't. Learning "game" is basically discovering how to do things that give her the most amount of pleasure within your interaction, so that she makes the CHOICE to be with you vs. chasing her away.

  • @azimuth9819
    @azimuth9819 3 года назад +3

    It's so funny how they act like 50k is chump change when it's literally 20k higher than the median 🤣

    • @msgirly6827
      @msgirly6827 3 года назад

      @@andrewraby8008 old lady like your grandma ?

  • @wickedninja8599
    @wickedninja8599 3 года назад +2

    I don't know who Zherka is, but he clearly has no clue what Destiny is trying to describe when it comes to dating.