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First they came for the celebrities
Defending Natalie is bigotry.
@@Titanicsubmarine Begone, vile man. Begone from me! I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
And I did not speak out, because I have no mouth, and I must scream
and yet I'm living for your Stevie Nicks realness. #yasQueen
"They do evil to whom evil is done." W.H. Auden
"This is the most effort you're gonna get from me, this isn't Contrapoints."
-Lindsay Ellis
"I haven't researched this, who do you think I am? Lindsay Ellis?"
-Contrapoints
Mutual adoration 👏
WHAT IS THIS A CROSSOVER EPISODE?!?!
endless cycle of “go ask your other mom”
I love my two academic maternal figures
Wait, what video does LE say that in? :D
“I have friends who struggle with same sex attraction 😇” literally gave me war flashbacks to my Mormon upbringing
Same
Jimmy is great, Telltale talks about cult's and cult mid-set's including mormons. I love TRHPS as well. I called the opening the dancing lips as A kid :)
I assume you like it with that profile.
^^^^^^^^^ SAME
Saaaaammmeeee
When the first Harry Potter book came out, Ursula Le Guin commented that she thought it was fine, but the author came off a bit mean-spirited.
She saw it before any of us did. Such a brilliant woman.
I always thought she was a bit meansprited when reading the books as a child but no one else had pointed it out so I didn't quite know why I thought that. Later figured it out, it's because all the overweight or "ugly" characters were made fun of by the main character and sometimes his friends who are supposed to be role models for kids. Also whenever she wanted to portray a female character as ugly she described them as "mannish", take of that what you will.
The making fun of overweight people especially kinda got to me, I remember being as young as 5 years old thinking I was too fat even though for most of my life I've been pretty average sized. Definitely didn't help to read that as a 9 year old.
The trans echo chamber of doom
😮 Ursula Le Guin wrote one of my favourite books, the dispossessed
@@bluesuedeshoes801 Joanne Rowling is trans? I had no idea.
You will unexist yourself. @@bluesuedeshoes801
"There are two things she can't stand: bigotry and the transsexuals!" is an extremely iconic line
It's an Austin Powers reference, if you're not familiar. In Goldmember, Michael Caine's character says it about "the Dutch."
@@themongoosedog There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
No shade to you or anyone else and simply for the sake of spreading knowledge, this is actually an extremely old joke, probably from at least the middle of the last century.
The joke is way older, in fact. I saw it first in a Bloom County strip from the 80’s and I’m sure they stole it from someone else too.
It’s a great one though. May every generation keep it going.
That's just another way of saying
"I'm not a bigot, but I can't stand transsexuals! 😡"
"Yer a bigot, Joanne."
"I'm a wot?"
"A *bigot.* "
I need a meme of this stat!
"but I can't be a bigot ,I'm just ... Joanne,just Joanne"
"Exactly the point "
Twitterwarts: School of TERFcraft and bigotry
A BIGET!
Hagrid: Cancelled
"You're not less of a bigot because your bigotry has a tragic backstory"
*Severus Snape has entered the chat*
She really created a character whose trauma justified forcing bigotry and abuse onto others and never reflected on why OMFG
*Thanos has become chat moderator*
@@lcardwell640 i think that's why he's her favorite character lmaooooo
Oh fuck no wonder the whole goddamn series ended with the narrative asking me to forgive that man
@@Rikku147 Harry didn't need a wand, Harry needed a sledge-o-matic
"What if I'm a Gryffindor trapped in a Hufflepuff's body?"
Then you're Neville Longbottom, obviously.
UNDERRATED
Great to see JKR including HtG representation in her books (RtG as well, in Hermione’s case) 🏳️⚧️✨
Glad I'm not the only one to think of that
@@raymond4218 don't forget GtS(Peter Pettigrew), HtS(Cursed Child Cedric Diggory, went full mazi after one loss), RtS(Quirrel), and StG(Snape).
No one tries to become a hufflepuff apparently...
"When you dehumanize the villains, you become unable to recognize the villain within"
I absolutely love this
"Hey, you know that part in _The Empire Strikes Back_ where Luke heads into a spooky cave and he sees Darth Vader, but then he kills Darth Vader, and he finds out that Darth Vader has his face because guess what, dickhead? You can't hate someone without carrying them within you! We hate most that which we cannot face within ourselves, dummy!"
-Thought Slime, "How the Far-Right Weaponizes Nostalgia"
@@LeBonkJordanAh yes, the two sides of the 30 year old balding manchild millenial's brain. One is for arguing with people on twitter for 10 hours a day and the other is for analyzing marvel power scaling.
that hit hard, been there. You get so caught up judging others you forget to judge yourself, or you just assume you're too much of a good person to be doing anything wrong. It's an easy trap to fall into.
That's why it bothers me so much when people just assume criminals and predators are just unsavable evil people ("they're not like us", "they're amoral psychopaths, incapable of empathy", "they're a different breed", etc...)
That may be true occasionally in some rare cases, but usually even serial killers are still people, and even most career criminals don't see themselves as evil. In my experience many of the most hateful and destructive people I've ever known often believe their actions are justified and/or moral. When folks assume evil doers are inherently different than themselves, what they're actually doing is reassuring themselves that they aren't capable of hurting others, or purposely blinding themselves to their own capacity for violence.
@1lovesoni Yes but are pedophiles still human?
"I'm honouring God with my sex-change" are you TRYING to kill Girl Defined
As a Christian, this is theologically correct.
I'm hope Attis, Adonis, Tammuz, Xochipilli/Xochiquetzal, Inari, Baphomet, Joan of Arc, and the rest of the gang feel appropriately honored.
Why not? Honoring the "soul" of a person (as a reflection of God) is the meaning of Namaste, right? Otherwise, physical birth defects would be the reflection of God's image and plunge us into some dark Calvanist God-shaming of bodies and claiming that it was a reflection of the state of one's soul.
their history and articles are doing that
Hey, so am I, but unironically lol
Dr Freud: It comes from the trauma of boys discovering women dont have a penis
Natalie: Im about to end this whole mans career.
Freud was a weird guy.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 But we love that brilliant coke fiend.
Ironhide ehm no
"I can't wait until trans people have so many rights it is Okay to make fun of us" that's gold.
They got that today though
@Nic Otero I beat transgenders daily in school. Some of them unalived because of it.
@Nic Otero Not as worthless as transpeople
@Nic Otero I've ended many transpeople
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Being amazed at how this amazing video also has Chinese subtitles, let me say:
The Chinese transliteration of Natalie, 娜塔莉, has 娜 which means graceful, elegant and delicate and 莉 which means sweet and pretty. All qualities that Natalie has ❤
what's the middle character then?
@@psychic_beth it means pagoda or tower, and is often used as transliteration of the "ta" sound when translating from other languages, e.g. Names, place names, etc.
Natalie is a man 😂
Awe, this is so cool and heart warming! Thank you for sharing that!
He’s a man
"The Transexual Empire" just sounds like a cool ass place to live rather than a scary book title
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her. Love is love
Transexual Empire sounds like a designer drug in a cyberpunk novel.
@@saudiarabianman4196 Did anyone claim that?
@@saudiarabianman4196 Dude, whatever it is your smoking/injecting... don't hog it, share.
@@saudiarabianman4196 this is so fucking funny
holy shit, i knew “terf is a slur” is a thing, but “being called racist is like calling a black person the n word to me” literally made me lose my mind
RACIST !
@@SilverMoon459 Hey! As a white cis-normative heteroid, I just want to call you out for using a word that has, for generations, been used a vile slur to oppress my people. Shame!
@@nesquik1640
Zoom.
@@nesquik1640 That scoldqueen who takes the joke comment seriously.
@@nesquik1640 Schrödinger's douchebag-that’s a good one; I had to look it up. For a joke comment that obvious? Well at least I thought it was. Such is state of the internet.
This vid is painfully relevant when you realize that the guy who put forward the anti-trans bills in oklahoma LITERALLY quoted jk rowling on the floor as he did so
Ad hominem detected. Opinion rejected.
@@LLewliet-pz6ve Facts hurt, huh?
I wasn't out when this video first released, and the stuff about bathrooms- about how trans girls will often compromise their actual safety to protect cis women's "feelings" of safety really sticks out to me.
After I came out- I had something I've since referred to as my "big trans night out". Me and a group of friends went out drinking with me presenting fem. I live in a conservative area, we have no gay bars or queer spaces- but there's this one bar that was always very welcoming to complete weirdos, people from alt scenes, etc- i had cross dressed there in the past.
At the start of the night I said I would continue using the men's toilets. I looked good, but I didn't perfectly pass- i had internalised so much of this transphobia, and didn't want to make other girls feel threatened or scared.
I was sexually assaulted several times in the men's bathroom- men grabbing at my ass and flat chest, trying to kick open the stall I was using, shouting and jeering at me- with the worst incident involving a man pinning me against the wall with his forearm, while trying to get his other hand up my dress far enough to go back down under my tights and into my underwear. My tights were pulled up past my navel, so I managed to throw him off before he could actually touch my genitals skin to skin, but he had managed to grab me through my clothes. I later discovered that he had actually seriously hurt me- I was aching for a few days, and without going into too much detail, I realised I was bleeding after sex.
People around me were on pretty high alert from the start of the night, trying to make sure I was safe and having fun, so upon following me out of the bathroom- The guy was almost instantly thrown out of the bar by door staff. But I was really shaken by what had happened.
So, 5 hours after declaring I was one of the good trannys! I'm not some cringe overeager gender activist! I would respect women's spaces until I passed perfectly and deserved to enter them!. I started using the womens toilets.
Because I didn't just *feel* threatened. I was almost raped.
And you know what? nobody cared. After all the rhetoric about the evil transes invading the sacred spaces of women. Real women in the real world? they welcomed me there.
On the one occasion some other girls clocked me as trans in there- I immediately started drunkenly apologizing- trying to explain what had happened earlier.
One of them just said "shh. It's okay. You are one of us."
They didn't care. Because I'm a girl. I really am.
I’m so sorry about what happened to you.
I’m so glad to hear you had people around you sticking up for you, who helped you recognise that you deserve the same safety and comfort as your friends 🏳️⚧️❤️
That shit is so horrifying. I wish you didn't have to go through that. But I'm happy that that other girl was there to tell you you're welcome. That just sounds so traumatizing, I hope you're ok and staying safe 💜💜
Solidarity and strength to you
Terfs will claim till the end of the world that they're protecting women from assault and rape, while in practice they have zero care for anyone's safety but themselves. I'm glad you told your story, and I'm so happy for you for being your true self. I hope you only have good experiences from now on, though do know that if someone does get mad about you wanting to take a leak, it's on them and not on you.
I am horrified and so sorry to hear that you experienced this. There are some unbelievably cruel people in the world and no one deserves to have to go through this. I desperately wish that humans could just respects other humans not because of who or what they are but simply because they are human. Your stength and bravery to be who you truely are will always provail! Trans rights are human rights ✊❤❤❤
"They struggle with same sex attraction" like wtf Joanne, I'm actually quite good at it.
Dare I say, some of us even embrace it lmao.
Stop bragging! Not all of us are good at getting members of the same sex attracted
JK never said that
@@lifes3ps Who did?
@@guyshafor1320 jk was relaying what others told her
harry: * is assigned slytherin at parent-murder but knows he is a gryffindor *
sorting hat: "valid"
TRUE
Unfortunately, that could be misconstrued as JK's bias and favoritism of Gryffindor, and her constant distaste of Slytherin. :'(
@@abigailfowler1843 ALSO FUCKING TRUEEEEE
That's a great metaphor tbh
@@mxar2074 The books have almost no cohesive themes so it's easy to read almost any metaphor into them. I say this Not to lessen the strength or meaning of said metaphors to people but to give them full credit for creating them, no credit goes to the original author.
you gotta read the full deposition if you haven't. it's so good. the judge did an incredible job of walking the line between freedom of belief and expression in different groups, and ended it by perfectly navigating how destroying someone's dignity because of your beliefs isn't democratic and doesn't bode well for a business.
maya was fired with good reason. she was mocking a bank director for months while working at a non-profit. like, holy fuck.
She wasn't even fired; the company she worked for declined to renew her contract when it expired.
My melted brain: femdom... of belief?? wait
@@alexandrapedersen829so she was still ‘let go’. They just didn’t have a meeting with her to specifically say “you’re fired”. But she was obviously fired. You don’t have to say those exact two words to convey the same meaning
@@Overseer2579 If your contract runs out, then you are no longer an employee, so no, she could not be fired, she just wasn't employed by them again.
@@rissaarei5336 still doesn’t negate that it was with good reason
It might be a hot take but I disagree with Nathalie at 34:15...
I wouldn't say she redistributed the rose petals, she rather increased the entropy of the bath by spreading the rose petals (rose petals representing energy, obviously) going from a heterogeneous distribution to an homogeneous one, where in the end she won't be able to extract any work from those petals anymore, forcing me to not do any work and just binge watch her videos.
this could be a paper, write it down
"Casual misogynists" implies the existence of Ranked competitive misogynists
It's called the alt-right
The Rnc duhh
This is a really funny joke oml I wish I had a cookie or something to give you so I could steal the joke without feeling bad
Fathers
or Smart, Business and Cocktail misogynists
All roads lead back to the masterpiece that is "Cringe". Projection and perceived threats to one's own identity is often the driving force of this kind of obsession with other's identities.
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her. Love is love
@@saudiarabianman4196 i mean this is just a troll, right? given the name and all the spamming across several threads
that aside, these two things are entirely unrelated and this troll is bad. quit it.
@@saudiarabianman4196 Cousin marriages far enough removed is not wrong. When the relation is too close, however, it is irresponsible to have children. No one is against cousins right to love each other, live with each other, even marry each other - the issue comes into play when they want to have children. That is literally the only reason incest is illegal. Cousins can fuck all they want, but having children massively increases the likelihood of incredibly averse effects, so it is seen as a not acceptable pairing. That said, the taboo is mainly cultural, as cousin marriage is legal in many places in the world, including the United States of America. So what are you having problem with understanding?
Really just wanted to say I wholeheartedly agree and I feel like I'm going to be saying "All roads lead back to the masterpiece that is Cringe" far too often
@@Barely_Edited
Just report them.
I still vehemently remember that in 5th grade, I went to the bathroom and I was wearing boyish looking sneakers. Since I had feet bigger than most girls my age, that's all that would fit. One of the teachers entered after me, looked at my shoes from outside of the stall, and started shouting at me to get out. I rushed to get out and once she saw me face-to-face, all she mustered was a surprised 'oh!' when I got out. Not one apology. This experience always comes to my mind when I think of TERFs because they are the same women who claim hyper-femininity is a sexist aesthetic for transgender women to go after; meanwhile, they police and treat women who don't fit the demure standard like animals.
Also it's literally shoes lmao, like there are so many reasons that any adult aged person should immediately question before screaming at a child. Maybe you just like that design, or maybe you have an older brother, and you're poor so you just got his hand me downs, or maybe you wrecked your shoes and had to borrow a pair, or maybe you were running late and just grabbed the first pair on the rack before running out the door, either way no 5th grader is in the bathrooms creepin on people, so even if you were entirely a dude, like not even trans, a full cis dude, in the women's restroom, who tf cares, maybe all the stalls in the men's room were full and it was an emergency, or maybe you were distracted and went into the wrong one. Kids have done dumber things.
As a size 9.5 / 10 (US) shoe woman…. This hits deep. I’ve been made fun of for my feet my whole fricken life.
@@chaoticdetectivepeach Not to mention she was alone, clearly sitting on the toilet- you can tell from where a person’s shoes are and whether other shoes are in the same stall. The fact that clearly nothing untoward was happening, simple a toilet being used, means the adult woman KNEW she would be harassing a person currently sitting on a toilet. That would still be unacceptable even if it was a young boy. You can wait until they’re out of the bathroom and question them. Holy cow.
@@chaoticdetectivepeach No adult has a right to bust down a door when they know a child’s pants are down, regardless of the gender of the child. That is borderline sexual abuse.
@@kathleencove That too! It's obvious to anybody with even sub-brick intelligence, that they're not doing anything except using the restroom. Also first of all from the original comment, it seems like the teacher just yelled alot. But if they did, kick in the door, I'd say, it qualifies as full SA not just borderline, because presumably that adult _knew_ d*mn well that that there was a kid who was indisposed in there, and they barged in anyways. No adult should be accosting children in the bathroom at all regardless of intentions.
I find it really interesting that, in Harry Potter, Joanne advocates for people choosing, or asking for, their preferred house, if they really want to. Even if they would otherwise be sorted into a different one. That is the whole thing with Harry being sorted into Griffindor instead of Slytherin. He didn't want to go there. So in this case she advocated for the thought, that even if your "abilities" seem to group you with a certain people, it is your feelings that really matter. In many ways Harry was a Griffindor trapped in a Slytherins body, but his inner self is allowed to freely express itself. Then why isn't everybody else allowed to express themselves in whatever way they want, Joanne?
And we can also turn that back around to Neville. Theoretically, Neville should have been in Hufflepuff. He wanted to be in Hufflepuff, He _asked_ to be in Hufflepuff. But the hat saw he was "A True Gryffindor" and now, he couldn't just let that go to waste, could he? So the hat goes against Neville's wishes and sorts him into a house he feels like he doesn't belong in. In the end, of course, he's a proud Gryffindor, but he constantly hates being a Gryffindor until like- 5th year. Around 5 years of feelings of not belonging, of being _different._ Not being a _proper_ Gryffindor. All because he asked to be where he felt he fit, but someone decided for him what suits him better.
Basically, Neville reminds me of myself, of a trans kid who wanted to sit with the boys, play with the boys, _be a boy._ But I couldn't, because "No, silly little girl. You go on and sit with the other ladies, and no, don't go on crying. You're a tomboy, yes. You feel different from the other girls. But at the end of the day, you're still a girl, and you will always be a girl, and nothing will change that."
Am always surprised people think this argument is compelling.
To a transactivist bathrooms, sports, female prisons are spaces. To a woman like Joanne they're a private space. To you, they're public. In Harry Potter, after you pick your team, they become private spaces and you cannot change between teams thereafter.
I hope this helps you find better arguments in the future.
@Micolash Sloth please explain what you just said means and why it's a good argument
Thats not the same as you not being allowed to follow little boys or girls into the toilet.
@@Raquya we👏don’t👏follow👏kids👏into👏the👏toilet👏kids👏are👏gross👏trans👏people👏aren’t👏pedophiles👏
Lindsay Ellis: "I'm not contrapoints, this is as much effort as you're gonna get from me"
Contra: "Who do you think I am, Lindsay Ellis?"
My OTP ♥️♥️
dear gods. imagine the power of a Lindsay researched, Contra-produced uh... production. The world is not ready.
YT "friends" being actual friends, you love to see it
@@lovelysan Not to diminish Lindsays researching skills, but Natalie already did a lot of research. I feel that was the biggest work she did for the video.
I‘d rather wonder how Lindsay could work on a different aspect of the topic or go into one more deep.
Its like having lesbian parents and each time you ask for something they tell you "Go ask your mom"
"You're not less of a bigot because your bigotry has a tragic backstory" oof I felt that one
it's kinda tragic. many times the worst TERF's have actual been abused/raped by men and ended up hating everyone who has (or had) a penis. we should be understanding of their experience but never excuse toxic coping mechanisms that end up hurting some of the most oppressed social groups. just like many incels might have been treated like shit by a woman but their misogyny and bigotry should not be justified.
@@christrifinopoulos8639 it just boils down to "don't judge" but unfortunately we need judgement to guage the safety of certain situations and I don't see how to do both
Maybe "don't assume" is a better rule of thumb
Does this also tie back to the theory that bigots need to place themselves in a victimized role?
Oofy woofy big yikesy poopers
I cant believe this is the first ContraPoints video ive ever seen. I hope they're all this good. I was big nerd in highschool like captain of the debate team , and the section about reframing the conversation to trans liberation got me so excited. That is such a good way to focus a conversation on what is actually important instead of getting distracted by the bullshit.
She kicks ass. Watch all the videos, especially the newer one about JKR
they're all phenomenal
They're all amazing, I'd say this one is more "middle of the road" which should tell you how good her best work is.
They’re all this good. Check out “the hunger”, that’s a personal favorite of mine
Someone needs to try it on Matt Walsh.
The point about the “trans women are women” slogan and the idea of swapping it for “trans liberation now” is so on the money.
I feel this way about "born this way." It reduces queer rights to something we deserve because we can't help it that we're not "normal," not as something that we deserve because "normality" shouldn't have anything to do with deserving rights. Straight people don't deserve rights just because they can't help but be "normal," so it's ridiculous to say we deserve rights even though we're not.
The issue with "Joannes" is that they are upset they were never named "Jolene" and so they live their lives in fear and hatred of everything Dolly Parton stands for.
💯
Dolly Parton ideology is superior
@@EvangelinaGrey facts
Song is so fire
Listen, I wasn't named Joanne. I wasn't named anything close to it.
But god damn do I wish I was named Jolene
hearing someone say "lesbophobia is different from homophobia" made me feel so valid and i really wasn't expecting that from this video
Kinda obvious when you think about it in retrospect. Traditional gender roles for men and women are already so different from each other, so it's no surprise that the hate for homosexuality is aimed at different aspects for different genders.
@@Moonhermit- totally true, I just always seem to find myself arguing with gay men trying to explain how lesbians do in fact face a different (but related) type of homophobia. hearing someone blatantly say "these things are different" was so cathartic for me
@@Moonhermit- Yes, men are definitely more likely to be victims of violent homophobia than women.
Remember when everyone including her best friends riduculed Hermione for wanting to end (elf) slavery and then rowling started hint that Hermione was black all along.
So a black girl literally gets riduculed for being agaist slavery by her best friends.
How did we not see these problems earlier is beyond me.
Are you aware that adults are dressing in sexual attire and dancing sexually in front of little children at drag shows all over America?
We were children who didn't know any better, I went back and reread those books as an adult, and with the adult lens that shit really sticks out, but children, (especially in America) are barely even taught what slavery is, we don't teach history in a way that is accurate. For example, I went to school in California and in fourth grade they took us on a field trip to the California missions, and told us all about how the Christians came over and did all this good, teaching the "ignorant natives" how to read and write. Which is so f*cked looking back, cuz they brought children to a monument of religious violence and told us that the genocide committed there was a good and necessary thing. Literally might as well have brought us to Auschwitz and told us "the Nazis did a ton of good teaching the Jewish people to work hard." I vividly remember being told I'd grow up to be a worthless loser by one of the parents on that trip, cuz I said sh*t, and I honestly wish I had caught how silly that was in the moment.
An hour in, you hit on exactly the point I needed to hear. I genuinely don't care about JK Rowling. I don't want to be researching her right now. However, I had to because my mom (who has up until this point been an incredibly progressive person) started getting really into JK Rowling for her views on gender and feminism. She's excited because Jo is calling out things my mom has feelings about but never been able to properly express. While I didn't know much, I had overheard just enough from under my rock for this to immediately raise several red flags. At the hour mark you really hit home as to why. My mom is also a domestic abuse survivor. Everything you quote here my mom has said to me practically verbatum (especially "TERF is a misogynistic slur designed to silence women." I caught her explaining that one to the guy who came to fix the stove the other day). She has recently said to me that all people born male (regardless of whether you transition later) are born with an instinctive predisposition and capacity for violence, one which people born female will never have, and one we must protect women from at all costs. That was a really painful thing to hear my mother say, especially since both my sister and I had just come out as non-binary. Especially since she embraced us with open arms and accepted us without debate. Especially since I know she knows better. I don't want to lose my mom down THAT rabbit hole.
I went through something very similar with my dad and the manosphere a few years ago. He's still sort of in it but it's evident now he cares more about his life with his family, regardless of who they are or how they identify than anyone telling him what to think through a screen. It's not perfect, he still follows those guys, but for me it's enough. I wish you luck finding common ground with your mother and that she finds her way out of bigotry and such things.
Do you think people born male who transition to female magically lose their greater capacity and predisposition for violence compared to biological women? I could understand this if you lower your testosterone levels, but what about people who don’t go through any hormonal therapy?
@jezza669 testosterone isn't automated violence, bigot
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Thinking about the scenes in Harry Potter where Ron, Harry, Hermione, and the ghost of a teenage girl were all able to be in the same bathroom together without this bathroom war debate coming up.
underrated comment
BOOOOOOM!
And the scene where said ghost got into the (either gender neutral or just for boys, I don't think the text specifies) prefects' bathroom and watched Harry bathe.
@@SomeoneBeginingWithI And the entire thing was played for laughs. Trans people using the right bathroom bad, ghosts creeping on teenaged boys good!
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her. Love is love
"We don't tell straight people to keep their lifestyle in the bedroom ... but we should." I SCREAMED
@Plausible Grouch imagine being asexual and giving a shit abt all this.
@@mr.mystery9338 I'm imagining a reasonable person in a (in certain repressive, very cisheteronormative, and even for them unhealthy, ways) heavily sexualized society?
Like, have you ever seen an ad? A magazine stand? A movie?
@@nibblrrr7124 dunno what you mean
@@mr.mystery9338 An asexual person is not interested in sex. An asexual person is not going to appreciate the hypersexualization of a lot of culture. Shit like Game of Thrones where they literally just make people get naked during exposition dumps because it's the only way the producers think they'll keep people's attention is extremely off-putting and crass to someone who isn't going to be titillated.
@@mr.mystery9338 imagine showing your ass so much and inviting mockery
It’s sad that after 2 years this is still so current 😢 thanks for being smart, funny and explain it all perfectly.
This video is depressingly more relevant in 2023. The recent NYT, pro Joanne op-ed, sadly reinforces the fact writers, liberals, & the “Paper of Record” need to understand the nature of bigotry and transphobia specifically. That many continue to ignore the dog whistles in these seemingly innocuous statements is infuriating. Thank you Natalie for such a brilliant video ✌️
Sorting Hat: Slytherin
Harry: but I feel like Gryffindor
Sorting Hat: Facts don´t care about your feelings
My new headcanon is the sorting hat referencing Voldemort as the V-word
@@Darkblaze129 ...vagina? viagra? vegan?
Sorry I'm dumb and actually confused.
very clever, but it is sophistry. the fact is he could be sorted equally into both houses, though the hat had an idea that Slytherin could be better for him (he could achieve more there), but Harry didnt want that, so the hat let him choose.
@@Rita-kx3yr Voldemort is "the one who mustn't be named", everyone has their own way to call him, so the Sorting Hat calls Voldemort "V-word" (it would be "P-Word" if the name was Poldemort...). "P-word" and "facts don't care about your feelings" is a Ben Shapiro reference.
@@Darkblaze129 Wet-Ass HeWhoShallNotBeNamed lmao
"I have a friend who struggles with same-sex attraction."
_Screams internally in ex-Mormon_
not any moremon
Another confirmed homosexual checking in! ;)
@Melody Ackerman
L I’ll
I screamed externally.
LITERALLY I JUMPED WHEN SHE SAID THAT SHDJDJSJSJ
"Joanne, JOANNE, this is madness Joanne" i lose it everytime
It's very disappointing that in the years since this video was uploaded, J.K. Rowling has doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on her bigotry.
Even more disappointing that public opinion is starting to sway back in her direction. The Hogwarts Legacy fallout has done *so much damage*, and now she's successfully playing the victim on her personal podcast. It's gross to watch even liberal leftists starting to go, "Okay, hey now, let's not get TOO judgy here." It's just so frustrating.
@@Chaeley well there were 4chan posts about attacking/doxxing hogwarts legacy streamers to turn public opinion against the boycott
this game has had one of the most successful astroturfing campaigns meant to increase sales from reactionaries, and i am guessing there will be more games marketed specifically through the lenses of "the other side dont like it/own the libs" with how well it worked
That's what you get for trying to make a person change her views out of shame, hate, name calling and extreme moral judgment. Its like the worst way to challenge individuals to reevaluate their ideas with an open mind. When people feel attacked and judged for something they honestly believe what do expect to happen? They double down on those beliefs.
Yes, she’s become unrecognisable.
@@francisco8345 "that's what you get"?? dude, no. firstly, just to be clear, i do not think that people sending jkr abuse or death threats is in any way acceptable behavior. i agree with you on that. but no one has *made* jkr do anything. her bigoted beliefs and actions are her own. it also ignores the many, many, MANY trans people and allies who have tried to reach out to her peacefully, respectfully, and in good faith. sometimes bigoted people across the aisle just refuse to be reached, and that's not anyone's fault but theirs.
the infantilizing masculine/androgynous AFAB people thing hit hard for me. I'm not a confused poor little girl.
And autistic people. We get enough infantilisation as it is
As a suspected-autistic transmasc, the infantilization and phrases such as "you just dont know what you want" and "soft boi uwu" boils my fucking blood
@@cariad123 yess!
The neighbours probably called the cops after hearing me stand up and bellow at the screen during the 'pronouns are rohypnol' part. Being roofied is one of the most horrific violations imaginable, whereas the pure joy on my little brother's face when I asked how he'd feel if I started introducing him as 'he' and 'my brother' remains one of the most beautiful memories of my whole life. This is who she #StandsWith.
the best part about it is how they're willing to spit in the face of women who have ACTUALLY been roofied and drugged against their will.....just so they can step on them and use them as a pedestal to preach their hatred
My sister doesn't drink but will still go out with friends and more than once has she saved a friend from being drugged or was able to take them to the hospital when they were drugged at a club and kept the men away.
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her. Love is love
@@saudiarabianman4196 bruh, you ever heard of the Hapsburgs?
@@saudiarabianman4196 straw man of epic proportion.
As someone who only had a casual glance at JKRs controversia tweets and did not understand much about why people were so upset, this is one of my favourite videos you did because you laid it all out so well! I also showed it to a wonderful trans friend of mine who is not usually on youtube and was very happy to have such great representation on here.
Its nice to rewatch this video for no particular reason whatsoever and theres no coincidental timing.
Study whatever you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Perform any legal magic you're capable of.
Live your best life regardless of your parentage.
But force wizards out of their jobs for stating that magical ability is inheritable?
#IStandWithSalazar
This comment is amazing!
Was Salazar a blood purist? I thought the Founders were violent but not bigoted. Amazing analogy btw!
@@allyli1718 Yes, IIRC it was the whole reason they split up into different houses and he created the Chamber of Secrets.
@@allyli1718 That's why Salazar put a monster in the sewers of the castle so it could eat muggleborn children.
@@allyli1718 Salazar technically didn’t mention blood purity but claimed Muggle borns couldn’t be trusted with magic witch at the time witch burnings were happening in Europe so his fear wasn’t unfounded however his basilisk scheme certainly proves he wasn’t a sane dude so it’s no wonder his decedents turned into inbred monsters!
“You’re not less of a bigot just because your bigotry has a tragic backstory”
Content.
In fact you are probably a bigot because of that tragic backstory.
This has big “cool motive, still murder” energy
Yeah, your trauma is meaningless if it means you have boundaries I don’t like.
@@JoJoFishFish it's meaningful but it's not an excuse to dehumanize a whole category of people 🤷♀️
your*
Great points, Rowling’s internalized sexism and concerns about sexual assault are definitely being directed at the wrong group of people. Why get pressed over pronouns when you can advocate for more protections for assault survivors? And sadly I’m sure that there are many trans people who can relate to Rowling’s experiences of PTSD, and yet she’s demonizing them.
Even though it's 2 years old and missing a lot of more recent events, this is still the best video on JKR imo. With her deep and empathetic analysis, Natalie somehow manages to do the impossible. I've recommended this video to so many people in the last few weeks and I really hope at least one of them takes the time to watch it and understand what all of this mess is actually about.
Because sadly, with all the hateful discourse from my fellow leftists (and some trolls), many people that would probably be on our side if someone explained it to them rationally are now turning anti-woke, some buying the god damn controversial wizard game out of spite even though they don't even like HP and all the while most of the confused, upset liberals DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW AND WHY JKR IS TRANSPHOBIC it's driving me mad how frustratingly bad this whole boycotting campaign is going in terms of raising long-term acceptance of trans people ughhh
Real women stand with JKR.
Misogynists stand against JKR.
@@transphobe9149 Anti-abortionists stand with JKR
Hey there, I'd like to reach out to you about your opinion on this matter. I'm just doing some personal research on the matter in order to strengthen my arguments and out of curiosity too. I tried messaging you on vimeo but it doesn't let me so if you're up for a discussion please let me know how to do so :)
@@miguel7383 hey, I've tried to send you a message on vimeo, let me know if it worked :)
@@Nirax3 I did yeah. I'll get back to you as soon as I can tysm
If terf is a slur then why haven’t I heard it in a Xbox party
If it's not a category for COD Slur Speedrunning, it ain't a slur Jack
This is the BEST way to discover if it is a slur.
Because they’re too busy calling everyone fake and gay.
Omfg as a cod player this made me fucking die of laughter. So true.
brilliant
I love how you call her Joanne. It's like calling Voldemort Tom.
More like calling bs on a "feminist" writer who, so far, never published a novel under her given female name and has zero female protagonists.
@@HeyNonyNonymous exactly, shes calling out jk as a person just like dumbledore did with voldy. also its so strange how radfems are so quick to sheild jk when she hasn't done anything for women...... as much as i love the harry potter series, i hate how jk followed every annoyin female charcter trope and ON TOP OF THAT clearly hasn't changed with her recent work. note: i love harry potter,, the movies have such a special place in my heart but jk is absolutely foul across every millimeter of that "essay" she wrote.
@@HeyNonyNonymous this is a bullshit argument, JKR is obnoxious and wrong, but you can absolutely be feminist if all your books have a male protagonist. You can even have dogs as characters without obligation to throw away your humanity. mindblowing
@@Telimency Sure, if all your protagonists are male you can be a faminist. But if all your protagonists are male, most of your female characters fall into female-character tropes, some are ridiculed for being too fat or too manly, you publish all of your works under a gender-nuetral/male pen names despite being one of the most celebrated writers in the world, you exclude transgender women from womenhood because they're just not faminin enough for you, none of your extensive charity works target issues that are spesific to women and you do all that in the 21st century?
Nope. You are a fake faminist.
I like JK. Cause she's a joke.
it’s been a few years since I have watched a ContraPoints video and I am so happy that I’ve come back now. I absolutely was obsessed with her content in 2018 but re watching now as a 26 “adult” I am absolutely blown away. her empathy…. so rare in circles now a days. you’ve earned yourself a life line fan
It's so sad. I don't believe Rowling didn't watch this back when. The fact that she doubled down, and Natalie had to make a sequel...
"what if I'm a Griffyndor trapped in a Hufflepuff's body?"
The funny thing about this is it actually happened in the books when Harry was sorted, he was going to get Slytherin but felt that he truly belonged in Griffyndor. The sheer irony of this kills me 😂 💀 like she literally wrote the basis of trans people but still refuses to believe it.
clever joke to Slytherin in this video
@@mathieuleader8601 Hello, I'm the pun police. Put your hands behind your back and don't make sudden movements.
also dumbledore literally said "you know, sometimes i think we sort too soon."
@@charlesc.r.9324 sort end of the shtick
You can't compare different homes that every person technically fits in, with people changing their body structure, going against biology and living a lifestyle that from a health- and scientific perspective (until political interest groups hijacked the scene) is seen as unhealthy.
I’m a single mom and I have a special needs son. In the olden days when we still went out in public I had to take him to the women’s bathroom with me. People minded their own business seeing my son in the bathroom. It’s a place to pee, not a sacred female space.
Yes, it's not like there is a bouncer
To be fair, it made me uncomfortable when my mom did that as a boy.
I've seen single dad's take their daughters to the lady's restroom too. It nbd
@@TheStraightGod - Understandable, as I went through the same thing LOL. But our experiences with that are totally different. We’re uncomfortable because we as boys feel we don’t belong there, so we think of it as “ew yucky girl’s bathroom”.
@@TheStraightGod Now I'm over here wondering if the fact that I never had problem with it was an early sign that I was trans.
"dark cabal of endocrinologists" is where I lost my sh.t laughing -- well done, the whole damn thing
There's never been a better time to revisit this video
"but what if i'm a gryffindor trapped in a hufflepuff's body? what then joanne?" i mean, that's literally .... harry potter. he puts on the sorting hat and it's like "wow i can tell you're a slytherin" and he's like "gryffindor, actually".
and guess who has the final say in that decision?
and he turns out to be right in the end because he is a true gryffindor
Whoah
Weren't they all in the "wrong" house? Harry should have been a Slytherin, Ron a Hufflepuff, and Hermione a Ravenclaw?
@@ligernull Houses (at Hogwarts) are based on what you value, not necessarily what traits you have. This is why kids get to choose their house
...huh. I’m surprised so many people missed that.
“Hugely sympathetic” dumbledore asked calmly
That's pure genius
@Dark Side’s Shadow Well, youtube age restricting a video isn't censorship at all. So, if she complains about her video getting age restricted, she isn't complaining about free speech or censorship, she's just complaining that youtube age restricted it.
@Dark Side’s Shadow Wow, you are really strawmanning her. She is not trying to ban Rowling from voicing her opinions, she is just saying that those opinions are wrong. Have you heard her telling Rowling to shut even 1 time in this video? Criticism is not the same as cancelling or banning. In fact, she has been a target of cancelling and opposes it even if it is done on people she doesn't like. She has also been pretty sympathetic to Rowling and has not attacked her even one time in this video, she has just debunked Rowling's harmful opinions. But I guess you came from that moron Tim Pool's video and didn't even watch this. I would advice you to watch something before commenting about it.
@Dark Side’s Shadow what a fucking strawman. did you even watch the video?
@@SD-zz4ov Of course they didn't. Tim Pool made a video about Natalie and he lied about how Natalie was trying to cancel Rowling for her opinions and also complaining about how youtube age-restricted her video. Her complaining about her video getting age-restricted is true but her cancelling Rowling isn't. But of course his fans ate it up and brigaded this video without even watching it. You can see Tim's fans' comments from 1-2 weeks ago.
As a cis woman, I also struggled with my identity. I had a massive internalized misogyny issue as a teenager that made me consider changing gender. Then, I overcame it, (transitioning in my case would have been stupid, I think I would have detransitioned), but I began to feel concerned that trans men might transition just because of internalized misogyny too, so I guess I was a little bit like JKR. Now, I came to a more objective vision I think. There are both people like me who hesitate to transition for the wrong reasons (internal struggles, internalized misogyny), and also people who transition for different reasons, who do not just want to « escape feminity », who definitely have a better life quality afterwards, and will never detransition. Everyone is different, makes choices for different reasons, and sometimes it’s valid. I would say that transitioning for wanting to be a man is not at all the same thing as transitioning for not wanting to be a woman. I want people who want to be men to feel accepted by society and supported when they transition if it is a solid and valid choice, that makes them feel closer to their identities, and that is not fueled at all by internalized misogyny. I also want teenage girls like me who do not really want to be men, but rather just want to escape the « shame » of being female to overcome their internalized misogyny, and feel proud and strong as women.
Love you all ❤
Do you think that becoming non-binary would be the preferred escape route for people who don’t want to represent any stereotypical sex? Rather than making a choice between one or other gender role?
For me, hyper-masculinity or hyper-femininity are just as unappealing. The preferred choice is withdrawal of labour either way.
Good for you, congratulations for that deep dive and understanding of yourself💪🏽🧘🏼♂️❤️
@@AtheistEve I sort of view it this way right now. I might be on the spectrum of gender abolitionists, as to me, revendications of one's individuality as something that does not necessarily fit in the traditional gender role boxes is what really matters - not finding a new "box" among other genders. But, I guess several people need to find a new "box" in order to escape the traditional ones. That might be a necessary intermediary step as society, before we land in a society where people are just people with a certain biological background but that does not impact as much their lifestyles, public perception and identities?
This view is subjective and personal of course, I do not have the perspectives of everyone :)
@@monopanda9546 Thank you for your thoughtful & thought-provoking response. If you don’t mind my asking, when you overcame your internalized misogyny, were you given any guidance from a professional in the field of body or gender dysphoria? I’d hope that actual care givers and counsellors would explore the non-binary options rather than expecting everyone to “pick a side”. I’ve only known two people who transitioned/ are transitioning. They both seem confident and very at ease in their current gender. I suspect that those who have to do the most work on this are those who have never even needed to question their gender and have externalized squeamish responses to anyone who has.
@@AtheistEve I mean you can not be hyper feminine or hyper masculine and still be a man/woman, unless you mean feminine or masculine more in identity and energy and not just clothing.
So many good points. A sentence that stands out for me is "[we] tend to forget that the end goal of a political movement is not 'validity', but _equality_ "
McGonagall came to me in a dream and said "you made me a cat, but you can't accept a catgirl??"
Brilliant
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her. Love is love
@@saudiarabianman4196 nah fook that m8 that man should marry his MALE cousin or get put in the antifa corporation canceltration camps
@@dynamostan3888 you can’t address my point seriously
@@saudiarabianman4196
Because your stupid question doesnt deserve any.
My anxiety while watching Natalie hold her phone in the tub: 📈📈📉📈📈📈📉📈📉📈📈📈📈
Why is no one talking about this omg it hurt to watch her hold her phone so close to the water so casually
Isn’t the iPhone 12 waterproof, why are so many people so concerned?
@@loreenasings tpi there is no such thing as a water 'proof' phone yet, only water resistant. you can still potentially permanently damage the cameras, speakers, microphone and potentially even the battery depending on the kind of water exposure, rendering it unusable unless repaired at the shop
I want to see the iPhone 12 girgly test
I'm so glad I'm not alone. Seriously distressing watching that. Also with the book.
This video is such a comfort in a world that has such black and white takes that's more about commitment to your value that dehumanizes the opposition. I have frequently come back to this video especially given the up and coming release of Hogwarts Legacy. I dunno if you'll see this in 2023 but thank you.
Aaaaaaand she’s doing holocaust denial
Where? How??
@@alexbennet4195 recently she posted this totally unhinged article claiming that trans people were actually supported in the holocaust which if you know literally anything about anything is...false
@@nellfromhell7192 can I have the link please
Bingo!
“I’ve redistributed the petals” *Soviet national anthem plays*
Natalie you’re a goddamn comic genius.
Yeah I actually laughed out loud to that
I cackled at that. out loud.
Same, had to pause to look at the comments for anyone else who laughed at this
I read this as she said it...
Then Natalie stretched her hand over the bathwater, redistributed the petals, and led us on the path towards a socialist utopia. The power she has :'(
Broey you’re great! Please talk about degrssi
Woah it's Broey deschanel
Bigotry can be entirely respectful
The KKK dont lynch black people anymore and there's even videos of black people talking to KKK members cordially and unscathed
The KKK treats racism as an ideology which contrasts with what people generally think when they think racism
A KKK member might say "I dont care if you're black but I'm protecting my own race" or "It's just a part of my religion"
This is sitll bigotry and it annoys me when people think it's not
You don’t know how validating this is Natalie. Thank you.
Lindsay Ellis: "These falsies are as much effort as you're going to get, this isn't CountraPoints"
Natalie: "I didn't research this, who do you think I am, Lindsay Ellis???"
Love it when besties shittalk each other livingly uwu
@@theuncannydag
*"Themselves to lift up each other" is more accurate, dear one.
@@Heleyrine Don't condescend to me. Geek ass
@@theuncannydag they weren't condescending to you. they corrected you.
@@OliverHeikkinen
Thank you for the kind saying.
And yes I didn't wish to; I'm sorry if I came across as condescending. My bad😊
my mom once told me that since i chose a doll instead of a truck when i was two, i cant be a trans man. Thats literally her excuse lmao
People who think collecting dolls is feminine were born before the anime invasion lmao
Cause the last thing we want is active fathers!
I liked the idea of my Action Man eventually leaving all the war against monsters and the lego destruction behind, settling up with a Stacy and having a gigantic baby together.
@@laurafulton7023 ok troll
bruh that's the worst reason for thinking someone isn't trans I've ever heard
I try to avoid any videos about this subject it's usually too upsetting, but your attitude actually made it bareable, thank you for being so authentic
6:45 “what if I’m a Gryffindor trapped in a hufflepuffs body” is shockingly close to how Harry was going to be assigned Slytherin by the sorting hat but chose to be Gryffindor. I’d personally love someone to read through Harry Potter and analyse the series as trans allegory
Yes, but when he _chose_, he can't be reSorted. So, if you somehow was sorted into the House that doesn't fit you (I mean, how the hell Pettigrew was sorted into Griffindor?), well, tough luck.
The 'Bathroom Problem' hit me hard. I'm a cisgender dark skinned Black woman with a tall athletic build. I've often been questioned, intimidated and outright refused entry to women's bathrooms. While my hair length may change- from shaved head to down-to-my-ass wig- I'm ALWAYS very femme and present all the traditionally female associated signifiers - long nails, make-up, big tits, dresses etc. And yet I am often 'accused' of 'just being a boy in a dress', or 'a tran*y or a drag queen. All of which is grouped as "Not a REAL Woman" It's so fucked up that gender is so heavily policed! I've been physically blocked from entering a woman's bathroom by a security guard because he didn't think I was a 'Real' woman. So obviously, I support trans women and trans men and enbies for the right to go pee. Long story short, I'm not trans or enbie but I understand the struggle of just being a human that has to pee sometimes. Trans rights are human rights. Civil rights are human rights. And btw I'm all about the Trans Liberation Now slogan.
Damn, that sucks. Who gets off on denying people entry to the bathroom? I'm sorry you've been gender policed while just trying to go about your business.
Didn't happen to me, but I had a weird bathroom situation at work. I was going in the bathroom, and a customer approached me to tell me there was "a man" in the bathroom, while pointing at a stall. The "man" was a cis gender woman with a deeper voice. (It was one of my coworkers). While she was going on about how we shouldn't let men in the bathroom, my trans gendered coworker came out of the other stall, washed her hands and walked out.
Like lady... you don't know who is trans and who is not, so why does that even matter to you?
@@stbananastein It's not just gender-policing. Mainstream culture in the US (assuming the OP is in the US) also has a long history of treating Black women as inherently and profoundly unattractive; and part of that narrative involved portraying them as "unfeminine". Depicting feminine-presenting Black women as "a man in a dress" or otherwise unattractively "masculine" is a common insult in much of the country; and can be seen in the (mostly) conservative attacks on women like Michelle Obama and Serena Williams. And it's not just the US; the racist trope is also distinctly present in most Anglosphere countries, like the UK and Europe. This goes well beyond transphobia, and into far older tropes rooted in white supremacism.
@@EphemeralTao thank you so much for elaborating on this. My post was already pretty long so I just described my physical appearance. And yes, I am in the USA.
@@EphemeralTao Oh yeah, absolute facts! I was just responding in particular to what OP discussed in her comment, but the added larger context is damned important. The issue goes waaaay beyond bathroom politics
“Who do you think I am? Lindsay Ellis?”
-a ContraPoints video
“This isn’t a ContraPoints video.”
-a Lindsay Ellis video
Coincidence? I think NOT!
They bffs
I'm waiting for those two to merge into the supreme being, Lintalie Wyllis. With the power to bring authors from the dead, and rule over breadtube.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 lily orchard malding in the corner
It's very nice of them to announce who they aren't because they could be twins 👩🏼🤝👩🏻
This response to Joanne's misguided and reckless posts is so eloquent and witty and intelligent that I am going to have to watch it several times. It is so illuminating and helpful and loving. I am writing about these issues in a novel that one might label as 'magic non-realism'. This one post/video is a huge resource. Thank you, thank you. THANKYOU!
It isn't misguided. She knows exactly what is is doing.
Joanne's entire problem is that she was SA'd by a guy and she's projecting her trauma and feelings onto others, without regard that transwoman (and trans people in general) are among the most vulnerable people when it comes to sexual crimes.
But she doesn't say that, does she?
No, she implies that trans people ARE the predators, that they ARE the assaulters.
She won't defend it, because Joanne knows she's wrong. She promoted Matt Walsh, a person who would see her as a second-class citizen.
I beg your pardon. I wasn't aware of Joanne's anti-trans misgivings.@@colt9836
i love this video. i've seen it countless times and will watch it countless times more. everything said is so well structured and nuanced, and the jokes still make me laugh out loud despite knowing all of them. it's just the perfect video to watch when i don't know what to watch
YES
My thoughts exactly! I came here today, because it's recommended to me once again after I'd watched it many many times. And I'm like, "Yes, sure!" I haven't watched it in 2023 yet, which I should definitely do. Treat myself after the soul sucking start of the year.
I feel like that entire "she" is safe and "he is a threat' rhetoric about pronouns is as dangerous to the straights as it is to the trans community. That assumption that girl is good boy is bad has got to be some fucking neurosis fuel for both sides of that.
That was the worst part! Feeling scared of every man and happy and safe near every woman makes you so abusable.
@@nukiradio And, specially, not just subject to abuse in the physical sense.
Yeah the amount of straight cis men who don't ascribe to traditional masculinity but still get scared that it's somehow "in their dna" that they are not just oppressors but abusers and rapists... lk that is not healthy for anyone. You should pay attention to actions more than anything, and if there are cycles of crossing boundaries and manipulation. It certainly does danger to both sides. Where women don't think they can be or are abusive. When I don't force anything and am completely calm and chill with guys, the amount of them that are thrown off.. They haven't had healthy relationships and then they are victims potentially turned abusers and the cycles continue. Breaking cycles by understanding them and getting actual therapy and resolving some of the latent trauma will absolutely help.
It sounded like an inverse of PUA talk
Exactly! By promoting that men are dangerous and women are safe it allows people to be just as "tricked" by cis women. Of course though TERFs would never imagine someone like themselves could be abusing this- only "fake women" are bad people, "real women" can't. 😳
"You're not less of a bigot because your bigotry has a tragic backstory. In fact, bigotry often has a tragic backstory." Omg, Natalie! ❤️
Natalie is projecting
@@danthelambboy how?
@@audriacostello6648 Natalie is a woman
@@audriacostello6648 still don't understand how "he's" a dude? What makes you think that?
@@mothh7600 a man is what natalie is.
Seems like a good time to revisit this one, no particular reason.
Same
This was a really great video, very thorough analysis and overall super engaging. Idk why it took me so long to check out your channel but I'm happy I did! Cant wait to keep watching
the six love languages:
- word of affirmation
- quality time
- physical touch
- pouring milk over naked lifeless torso with headshot affixed to face
- acts of service
- receiving gifts
The best comment
im am hijacking this thread to ask what is the name of the song that played at 1:15:23
sorry in advance
@@vintheguy I've found songs by holding my headphones up to my phone and using shazam.
If you're playing the video on your phone shazam seems to pick it up as well
@@apocalyptosoldier5527
I know what shazam is
This was a weird and creepy comment... UNTILL I got to the part about the Daniel mannequin LOL
36:09 JK Rowling doesn’t use public bathrooms; she just shits on the floor and uses magic to vanish it away.
Another take we really didn't need to know.
By “magic” you mean a lowly, blue collared worker that she wouldn’t even acknowledge exists in her presence?
@@blaue_sophie1317 Speak for yourself
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I feel like you’ve healed me understand how complex the nature of being trans is, but also so many other issues I didn’t realize I didn’t understand. I just read a NYT article opinion piece in defense of JK and felt so disturbed by the heaping piles of bull shit I had to come watch this again
Contrapoints:" LET ME SHOW YOU MY LOVE THE ONLY WAY I KNOW!"
proceeds to waterboard him with milk 😂
"What's your favourite movie?"
"JK Rowling"
"Oh Harry Potter?"
"..."
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Is that a movie....? what is the joke 😅
@@valawee This video is the length of a movie
@@valawee the joke is that this video is named "JK Rowling", and the person speaking means that their favorite movie is this video, but the other person thinks they means Harry Potter because they don't know about this video
un film de ContraPOINTS
"Understanding bigots is the best defense against becoming one yourself. Because when you dehumanize the villain you become unable to recognize the villain within." this.
Truly brilliant. Many people become what they fight against.
Bigotry definition according to Webster: Obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices.
I think the proper word to describe Rowling is "Boldly Veracious about the sufferage and victimization of women". Seeming as though she only speaks about the predators... It seems rather odd to defend sick people who are opportunistic predators, and jump at the opportunity to invade women's spaces and all progress for the liberty of womankind.
All the voices of truth are silenced and ignored and "cancelled". Who are the real bigots? I wonder.
@@armin-senpai9194 "All the voices of truth" that is all subjective in a world of misinformation were a group of people have been marginalized by the patriarchy for centuries, the same patriarchy that has wanted to control females hates them just as much, Obviously you don't know any real trans individuals, didn't watch the video/ didn't want to understand, your minds are already made up, you already claim a victim narrative for all females.
So in your mind every trans girl/woman is a predator against your rights and trans men are your misguided sisters who wanted to play with trucks instead of dollys and dresses.
@@armin-senpai9194 Excuse me, what are you talking about.
@@maschaorsomething The same people who advocate for the destruction of women are the ones who are incapable of digesting a comment lol.
What I really love about the point with the sorting hat is that most people think you just get a house assigned, while the Main Character literally learns it's actually a choice he can make. Well
He's all powerful but he could really use your help Mary. I'm dead.
Hold! ContraPoints said she's been using the female bathroom for several years. This implies that, before that, she's been pissing on the only _true_ gender-neutral bathroom, Ronald Reagan's grave. In this essay, I will-
I choked on and spat out my perfectly pulled espresso. Thank you. My sinuses are on fire.
where can I read the rest of this essay?
Uhm, excuse me, what is this abhorrent lack of respect?
Thatcher's grave is also a gender neutral bathroom
Ah yes, the three bathrooms - Thatcher, Reagan and female
@@eminatorstudios on my ao3, I don't know
"Life is too short for metaphysics."
Ludwig Wittgenstein: Gay Icon
Dude, I lost it at 'gods all powerful, but he could really use your help, Mary', said in literally the most sarcastic tone possible 😂😂
Just been binging your content since I first heard of you on Offline the other day, and I can’t get enough. This might be my favorite content on RUclips, INCLUDING funny cat vids.
Just a minor correction about Maya: she actually wasn't fired. Her contract had expired and her employer chose not to renew it, which they are entitled to do for any reason. Just another twist of the truth from Joanne.
I have a question why you hypocrites radical leftists think gay marriage is okay but cousin marriage is NOT okay?? If a man loves his FEMALE cousin, it’s okay to marry her
weird how she keeps twisting the truth to fit her narrative, almost like she thinks that she has to do this to get more people on her side bc it's actually all bullshit that she says
@@saudiarabianman4196 are u ok there mate lmao
@@saudiarabianman4196 what is wrong with you lmao
@@saudiarabianman4196 This is bait, no one would say anything so stupid and think it is all right
Cancel culture is when Joanne can't transphobic.
Cancel culture is when you are worth $670 million and win a BBC Writing Award
joanne being prevented from transphobising is literally 1984
@I’m Too Kind for This Nonsense _soooo hard 😭😭_
how are these comments from 12 hours ago
Cancel cuktyeue is when no mean 😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Just wanted to say, I listened to you on the JK podcast. When you got upset, I got upset, too 🤝 I’m sorry that someone we once admired has let us down. I’m also sorry you have to fight constantly for your own rights. I could listen to you argue your points for hours. You are so cogent and empathetic. If you need to take a break, it’s completely understandable. Thank you for all you’ve done.
Contrapoints has let me down by becoming one of the anti-feminists he used to criticise.
Where can I listen to the podcast?
@@FreeAssange dude/dudette/dudus, you being all over here in every comment makes me think you're going through some gender issues yourself. If this is helping, by all means, keep commenting away, but if you realise it's no longer working for you, there's plenty of places you can go to or call and talk your concerns through.
@@Mikathedog100 I just call out anti-feminism when I see it. Everyone believes 'sex is real, immutable & cannot be erased & replaced by trans-identification, therefore everyone is "transphobic", but you people focus all your bile against feminists. Why? Because "trans rights" is just anti-feminism in drag.
I have to admit, I have used some of the same arguments that you present J. K. Rowling as writing, in attempting to understand the complexities of this issue. That being said, the switching of the argument to use as a homophobic one (timecode 10:24) is to me (at this present moment) flawless and I must now begin to run with it - potentially changing my current opinion. Thank you for this video. I found it polite, sensitive and not burdened with appeals to my emotion. Thanks to this video I also better understand the concept of transphobia.
Transphobia is great. It means you care about real women.
@@transphobe9149 Touch grass
@@hazelmarie3219 I live in grass
@@transphobe9149 cool stay there
@@hazelmarie3219 Coming to grass near you soon
“I don’t want to be a gay icon, I’m just stuck with you people!” - every actually gay icon 🤣🤣🤣
That's how I wanna live my life
Shady queens
I feel like some pop stars are like that. Like poor Marina. I don’t think she wanted to become one lol.
I feel cheated that no one has ever tried to trans me.
Same tbh its a lot of work for one person
*That’s why I’m here buddy*
It's not something we can do on demand, sorry. I don't even know when I'm doing it sometimes - like the other day I was in Lidl and this guy glanced at me and before I know it, he made a jump for pickles and crazily started running around asking where he can learn bass guitar..OTOH when I try and transgenderify others (such as by giving out free 'hand santizer' that totes isn't estrogel) to that neighbour (the one who wears a muumuu) it doesn't work at all.
The real trans-ing was the youtube comments you've made along the way
I feel cheated...never got sold drugs never got taken in by a gender non-conforming cabal...what am I not doing right?
Having the phone in the bathtub gave me a lot of anxiety.