Curry is not better than Zeke. Curry is a specialist. Green runs the offense which I remind you is the Spurs offense which turned Parker in to an All Star.
@@harinderrana9735rofl by that time Hakeem was in the league 15 years and pushing 40. The fact is that Dream dominated young shaq head to head and embarrassed him. Shaq almost always gives Dream all his flowers for that, Shaq 100% just forgot Hakeem on this list
@jmoney6043 hmm that’s weird, he averaged 20% more points in 2006 than in 2007(36ppg vs 28ppg). you don’t remember 06’ Kobe if that’s your opinion. He had almost 30 games with over 40, not to mention his 81 that year. Jordan averaged over 30ppg for his ENTIRE career, Kobe’s under 25. Kobe is my idol but don’t get it twisted he’s not Michael Jordan.
I disagree with Nick saying Steph wouldn’t be on this list 18 months ago, Shaq says Curry is his favorite all time. There’s no way he leaves him off even the bench
Yeah I tend to agree with you, because Shaq has always loved Curry and talked him up unprovoked. But I think when it comes to lists overall he's fairly correct. People used to give a lot of excuses not to include Steph until he got that finals MVP. (Which I will add is silly, because it's not like Steph simply became amazing during that playoff run. But it just shows we put WAY too much focus on awards. Steph has probably indluenced the game more than anyone in the past 5+ years. So the whole narrative that a player can't be held at high regard because of lack of awards in insanity. In my opinion. You know greatness when you see it. You don't need an award to validate what is obvious. lol)
But lebron with 3 rings is in the goat convo? That’s the media for you. They wanted to fabricate another “goat” in lebron so they try to convince everybody nonstop
All a player can do is play the game. All of the voting and award presentations is left up those who have a say. Just like the year LeBron should’ve been DPOY, but Marc Gasol won it, even while being on the 2nd team All-Defense. Same as how Shaq was dominant during his Lakers title runs, but only came away with one MVP award. And as far as Iverson, he was a great individual talent whose skills set and style of play made it difficult for the organization to build a well rounded team (offense and defense). That 2001 Sixers teams was all defenders and hustle players while Iverson had the triple green light to shoot as much as he wanted. Absolutely no way he is better than Steph. People tend to mention IT when referencing Detroit and their era, the two championships and their toughness. Honestly though, skill for skill, he couldn’t touch Steph with a ten foot pole. Most agree that Steph should’ve been FMVP in 2015. Iguodala won MVP simply because he was inserted into the starting lineup midway through the series and played great defense on LeBron. In that series Steph averaged 26 pts 5.2 reb 6.3 ast, compared to Iguodala’s 16 pts 5.8 reb 4 ast. There is no way He should’ve been chosen as MVP over Steph. And to say Larry Bird grabbed mores rebounds than Steph proves nothing. Bird was a 6’10” forward who played a lot closer to the basket. Curry is 6’2” and mainly a perimeter player. That comparison isn’t even sensible just because of their games being so incredibly different. Magic is the only PG I would was better then Steph, based on accolades, leadership qualities and yeah success.
I only have one problem with this list, why is Karl Malone here ESPECIALLY over guys like Wilt, Russel, Hakeem and Dirk. Also I would replace Isaiah Thomas with Larry Bird so there can be another forward on there
Its just his list of the players he likes, its his starting 5 and 6 off the bench he isnt saying these are the 11 best players of all time im pretty sure, its just that the title is wrong and doesnt match what was actually being talked about in the segment
Malone is better than Russell and Dirk. He's the 2nd or 3rd best PF of all time. I'd take Hakeem but the list already had the top 2 Centers of all time
@@cheyenne11114 how you gonna say they would have spacing issue but start Timmy? Him and Hakeem would be down there with LeBron driving the ball, now what's spacing issues... Kobe and MJ midrange on each wings, Hakeem down low and KD would play like how he did on GS.. Zero spacing issues. Kobe loved the right hash and teams drove Jordan left..
Hakeem is my favorite player of all time, but Wilt was better, and would have been even more smothering on D if he’d played in the 90s and early 2000s. He wouldn’t have had to hold back against Shaq and Patrick Ewing and he was way too fast and strong for them to deal with. Dude got 55 rebounds in a single game against the most dominant team of his or any era.
Calling Iverson a touch overrated is disgusting. What he accomplished at his size with those talent lacking teams is unbelievable. He averaged 26 a game for his career for Christ sake.
@@gangstagummybear3432 you're taking a guy who couldn't distribute and was small so making very little defensive impact and didn't win in your number one spot? You must think Zach LaVine is the best player in the league LOL I know he led the league in steals, so did James Harden. I'm not disrespecting Allen Iverson, but you have to factor in his stature as far as his impact defensively and factor in that regardless of not being on a ton of talented teams he was a ball hog. That s*** ain't going to work on a team that has a bunch of studs and they expect ball movement. Finally he's made it very clear he's not coming off the bench LOL
I was at the Palace of Auburn Hills when Detroit beat Kobe and Shaq to win the ship. Had Kobe not made a half court shot at the buzzer in game 4, Detroit would have swept them. Born and live in Michigan but a huge Kobe fan so I was disappointed it wasn't a better series but give Detroit their due they were great.
Pistons had a great team but they won that Finals b/c the NBA legalized Zone in 2002..... Not enough is talked about concerning the NBA legalizing the Zone b/c the Zone was legalized Specifically to Neutralize Shaq & future Dominant Centers by allowing opponents to guard an AREA instead of the Man.... Shaq's scoring Avg dropped from 28 points to 22 per game IMMEDIATELTY after the Zone was legalized.... Shaq adjusted Brilliantly in Miami by focusing more of Rim Protection & Rebounding to aid Miami's transition fast break & putting the scoring burden on D Wade...... b/c Shaq was jog down court & establish Post position & once he did that it was Curtains - No way to defend him...... After Zone was legalized opponents could put 3 men in the Paint before Shaq even got there & like Most Dominant Bigs Shaq's scoring occurred within 3 feet of the Rim....... This is what makes Embiid's Not just winning scoring Titles but also Avg'ing close to 35 pts a game by some years Dominating in the post & others moving his game out to the elbow like a 7 foot 325 lbs Kobe Bryant so absolutely Insane.........
@@jackzeldon2883 Teams would have 3 centres on the roster just to have bodies to throw at Shaq so he doesn't score at will. No-one's tailoring their roster to beat Embiid who can't even make it out of round 2.
Steph belongs on every all time team because if you approach team design, you are trying to balance the floor, and the top players are overloaded in the paint and midrange. Steph stretches the defense out beyond breaking, giving you a mobile .670 efg option all the way out to half court if you don’t double him. Think about the offense you’re trying to run: MJ may be Master of midrange and slashing, but a great illustration of the value of spreading the floor is that the paint is packed and a corner 3 by even an average 3 point shooter gives you .525 efg. In order to unlock the greatest offense of all time, you have to have Steph.
@@iishyxvietxboyii1 he’s a good defender adn more importantly smart defender, and with that level of rim protection with a superstar team, we’re still talking about giving up pull up jumpers that are far worse efg than the .650 Steph will get back at the other end. Thing is that Steph’s game is by far the most complementary and rare of anybody’s. He gives you paint-quality shots on the perimeter off the dribble against any 1 on 1 D, categorically better than any midrange jumper.
@@iishyxvietxboyii1but it makes sense tho.. you don't need top 5 def having top 5 offense.. Stephs lack of size and def are not a liability on that team Edit.. top 5 offense you know what i mean, "top 5" offensive players
A.I. getting the disrespect from the media but legends who played the game giving the most respect go to show first Wade now ShaQ they know the agenda 💪🏽
Media always got something to say about a.I but u look at it he’s getting more & more respect from legends like ShaQ & Wade shows they know whats up a agenda best lil man on this list 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Shaqs lists are always changing depending on his moods. This team of course is extremely dominant although I believe maybe another role player and maybe another shooter. I am telling you, this team all it needs Is a Reggie Miller type of player who is not ball dominant and can keep the defense honest chasing him around picks and creating easy buckets for teammates. Reggie Miller you need them players who are efficient and do not need the ball in hand. I think Shaq probably plans on playing 6'2 Curry at the SG and he can create motion offense as well and best to ever do it. Otherwise it's all fast breaks and iso back to baskets and 1 on 1. I Like his list though.
If you think about it That's why he retired basically, he knew that lebron will take over the league and he didnt want to get embarrassed by the man who will surpassed him decades after it
@@anime.headquarter1924 kobe is not lebron, kobe had shaq. Lebron's best teammate was kyrie and its says alot about him as leader and carrying teams to championships
AI probably had the highest degree of difficulty of any superstar in history. Extremely undersized, never played with an all star offensive player in his prime thus defenses honing in on him which explains his fg % but still managed to change the game on the court and off and accumulating many honors and awards with crazy stats for his size. The eye test told you Iverson was definitely one of the greatest and he's my goat 🐐
@@PoohKalonji_97overrated but a hall of famer. Comedy. It’s funny when Steph loss clay for the year, that was the equivalent to AI’s team in Philly. And steph couldn’t even make the playoffs
@PoohKalonji_97 I said prime AI. He wasn't in his prime in Denver. Still great but not prime Iverson. And the west was LOADED that year. They won 50 games a was a 8 seed one the those seasons. All in all Iverson one of the greatest players the game has ever seen. Anybody who knows anything about ball knows this
Depending on the era we are playing I would swap Curry and Magic. Also I feel like Jordan and Kobe should not be on the floor at the same time, to ball dominant. He would need to take a humble back seat to Jordan and focus on defense or swap out with Isiah. Other then that not a bad list.
@@scrillasofly You obousley don't watch Lakers games recently. He knows how to differ, the problem is he usually can't. The past year or 2 he's been able to play off ball. Also look at the redeem team from that Olympic year they were on the same team and he was able to co-exist with Kobe
@joek1989 I never said lebron couldn't do it I literally said lebron is more ball dominant I don't see the issue with Mike and Jordan both on a team when they are not ball dominant as lebrons and Lukas of the world ...they score if they can't they move to another side and reposition
Kobe and Jordan could definitely be on court at the same time, yes, they are the 2 best SG's of all time but they are also dominant SF's, with Kobe being a slighly better at small forward than Jordan. Them both on the floor covering both the 2 and the 3 position and being elite defenders is a great lineup. Can't think of any SF that would be better at both defense and offense than Kobe or Jordan, and then also have the ability to drop into the 1 position.
Basketball is position-less now. The All time great players can play with almost anyone… Kobe and MJ could definitely can play together 😂💀. 2 of the the greatest 2-way players in NBA history would have the wing positions on lock.
For example, Shaq always struggled against Hakeem Olajuwon, and also against Yao Ming, so take your pick at C PF - Mr Fundamental Tim Duncan, had a habit of leading the spurs to victories over LeBron James SF - Larry Bird, before his back troubles, was there anything he couldn't do?! SG - Tracey McGrady at the very height of his game, killer PG - Steph Curry, outside threat and great passer Bench could have Doncic, Antetokumpo, Jokic, Stockton, Garnett, Pippen... plenty of greats not selected
Man sometimes I feel like these Lebron guys got the memo that crushing Steph doesn't benefit Lebrons Goat case. It benefits their argument more to praise him imo
I mean he had to the spacing in that starting lineup would be absolutely horrendous. It would be so much one-on-one basketball even with magic Johnson there. Think about it this way, it's highly likely that LeBron James is the best three-point shooter in that group LOL that is nasty
@@andrejamison2723 who isn't better than Zeke? If you're talking about my comment on LeBron being the best shooter I was talking about in the starting lineup. Kobe is probably a better 3-point shooter than bron and I definitely want kobe taking that shot at the end but all in all the spacing would be horrendous.
@@Passport_Ninjalebron fans was just made steph laly and draymond got on a plane and begged kd to join him cause that ruined literally any teams chance to win a chip and a 2017 rematch after the 3-1 comeback woulda been better then just making an unstoppable team and adding a top 5 player in the league at that current time two top 5 guys a defensive player of the year and the second best shooter in the league in klay is jits not fair
To say Larry bird is not better than Karl Malone and AI is so unbelievably asinine I cannot believe it. He’s was the best player of the 1980s and the greatest Small Forward ever not named lebron. Give me a break Shaq. If your doing lineups it makes even more sense to put bird in there because he can is arguably the greatest non-point playmaker of all time and he’s the greatest shooter of all time not name Stephen.
@user-rr3fo6hy9q bro I’m not a Steph fan lol he’s overrated. And I wasn’t bashing Bird either. I’m just saying he’s not the second best shooter in the history of the nba.
@@Gmanu29lol but they played by the nba rule book unlike today. Not to mention it was 1 and done In the playoffs and finals. Your right it was so easy then lmfao.
If AI was only included because he dropped 48, where is Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson? Stop trying to discredit what Shaq truly believes. He said Iverson was in his top 5 YEARS AGO when they were still playing. No one questions Malone or Barkley in top 10-15 lists, stop doing it to Iverson
Nice list, personally I would have Hakeem over Malone but can't argue with any of his choices too much. Maybe just one more big wing two way star like a healthy Kawhi or young healthy Grant Hill or Bird or Dr. J or Jimmy Butler or even Pippen or prime Kd or PG just to balance out the bench more instead of the 3 small guards for defense purposes even though Magic, Lebron, and Kobe and Jordan could guard most 3s but for the bigger ones a wing stopper off the bench to sick on whoever would be perfect. Edit: could even just be like a Rodman or Draymond for balance cause there's plenty of firepower but I'd go with prime Kawhi or KD or prime Grant Hill or Jimmy Butler for chemistry and heart since he don't care about having the ball as much.
My all time starting 5… and sixth man 1. Accurate shooting - Stef Curry 2. Consistent rebounding - Dennis Rodman 3. A beast who can rim protect Shaquille O’Neal 4. Someone with high basketball IQ who can play 1 through 5 - LeBron James 5. Micheal Jordan - no explanation necessary 6th man - Kobe Bryant with the mamba mentality
Dream gets no Respect. No way Steph, Isiah, Malone, or AI is better than Dream. He the best defender ever! He swept Shaq. The most undefendable player in the post
"better" is such a strong word, no matter how you look at it, I try to refrain from using it since it is so hard to truly gauge someone actually being "better" than someone else.
@@gangstagummybear3432 cmon, out of those players, To be the Driving force of your team in the draft, who are you picking 1st. Dream, Steph, Isiah or Malone? You know who you are picking. I know the choice is probably really between Dream and Steph. But to me 3 of Steph titles are discounted. He beat LeBron without his full team, Kyrie and Love out. Then loses to that team the next year up 3 to 1. Then two chips with Durant being the driving force. Dream had two years where he murdered a generation of centers, Shaq, Ewing, and Robinson. Won MVP, DPOY, Championship and Finals MVP in the same year
For me Karl Malone is the 13th best player of all time. Took what he wanted and had great longevity; age never slowed him down. Him and OJ are my two favourite athletes.
Shaq at C: Jordan at SG: KD at SF: Lebron at PF: Steph at PG: Must dominant center ever. Arguably the 2 best players of all time. KD... Arguably the best scorer of all time. And Steph... Best shooter of all time. And let Lebron run point from the PF position lol
Great list. This is the thing. Whenever ex players or even some current ones make their own lists, Kobe is usually in there. In some of them he is close to the very top of the list. Media folks are the only ones constantly trying to force him further and further down and off these lists. Glad Chris finally made some mention of that moment he had with Shaq. If the topic is Kobe, never listen to Nick, ESPN or most big media outlets. The way they cover him is a disgrace. Also good to see Shaq finally having the confidence to put himself high up on these lists. Skip has him in his top 5 too.
Thinnk about it, every arena Kobe went to, the crowd would often eventually be won over by Kobe's effort and performance and would get MVP chants. Imagine that being your team and your fans are cheering for the opponent, yea I'd be salty. A lot of these media people are fans like us, they have bias, I'd be salty to if some medium size guard was terrorizing my team and the fans are giving him praise?! Most people DON"T KNOW the fact that MVP was chosen by players before 1980-81, after that it was CHANGED to media reporters and broadcasters. There's different biases at play. Players would have been biased too, in their own way. I've watched NBA since end of MJ years, and never did i see LeBron garner MVP chants like Kobe, it's only the media that props up LeBron and tears down Kobe, it's so weird.
I agree..... GOAT debates should be excluded to how each player performed in his prime in the playoffs & Finals w/ the most pressure vs other all time Greats & Kobe is in the Top 5 All Time & he's well ahead of Lebron......
@@paradigmshift7541 I've seen guys like AI, Matt Barnes & Stephen Jackson say they don't know why Kobe's not even in the GOAT debate and why the media barely has him top 10 if at all. Stack has him #2 behind MJ & ahead of LeBron. I grew up in the 2000s and the first season I watched basketball was the year the Lakers won that first one with Shaq & Kobe. And even then, it was clear a young Kobe was special. Shaq getting fouled out, no problem. The way the media has spun it over the years. They make it seem like Kobe was carried by Shaq all the time and not that it was an actual duo. Then they criticize him for only winning 1 MVP when they're the fools that only voted him MVP once. That little sentence you heard from Broussard giving him credit for 2004 playoffs is the most you'd hear these guys say. They even go as far as credit Gasol more for when the Lakers went 3 straight finals again like it wasn't Kobe who's the driving force. 😂
@@jackzeldon2883 I like LeBron but I have no idea why there is this obsession by these guys that he is top 2 all time or that he's ahead of Kobe. They've been putting him there from around 2016 when he only won 3 championships and had meltdowns so thats how I know its just some weird favouritism or bias in regards to lifting him high on the list. Had they start to do it recently instead then I'd think they're just being objective and looking at longevity. For me personally, he needs to win more. And even then, he is not as skilled as Kobe was.
"If i had to pick one player to shoot the game winning shot, I'd pick MJ. If I had to pick one player to shoot a shot to save my life, I'd pick larry bird "
I agree with the Bird comment. But Air Jordan isn’t that guy that you put the game on the line. However, to close out a game or series. Bar none it’s MJ🥳🍻
Solid list. Personally I think Barkley was a hair better than Malone, and it’s hard to exclude Bird when Magic is there and they were always neck and neck.
@@GentM2015 Fair enough, although I believe that playing w a guy like Stockton for so long probably made his life easier. Probably accurate to say Hakeem was better than either of them.
Personally, I'll exclude Curry. He's more of a product of today's style of play, a phenomenal product, but still a product nonetheless. Definitely with you on Barkley and Bird, especially Bird. And quite frankly, Shaq would be close to my top 10 but he wouldn't exactly be in my top 10.
Yeah no he didnt. Shaq got stopped by detroit defense and bell wallace n no malone or fox to get detroit to change their coverage means kobe had to hero ball and won 1 game due to it. Not to mention dealing with that grape case. So u already know what fans were saying during that
@@justthatguy1808 he was unnecessarily playing hero ball on 22/3/4 averages, shooting 38% from the field and 17% from three. Shaq was 27/11/2 shooting 63% on limited touches because Kobe kept trying to do too much.
I’ve noticed this trend where players give so much more credit to Kobe than analysts do AND they begrudgingly put Lebron on their list because he’s so far and away at the very least in the top 3 of best players ever. No debate here just something I noticed.
Well the media is is in Lebron's payroll unlike Kobe who's hated by the media and loved by his peers. He gets an MVP chant wherever he goes, while Lebron gets laughed at even by fans whichever arena he goes to.
Did someone on that panel say that? If so, they have simply caught wind of what his haters have claimed for years with their nonsense trying to discredit him, he probably thought he can easily say that garbage and the iverson haters would simply tag along and support him, what a bum whoever said that nonsense.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Nick and Chris both said it. I don’t get the discourse. Iverson was a top 5 player of HIS ERA right? Well, he played in an era with Tim Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron which is 4 of the consensus top 10. So how far away is he really from a top 10-15 list?
@@officialconch You already know, whenever I see Iverson in something like this, I already know haters are going to try to come for him, the guy is underrated, and overHATED, that is a better term to use.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Yes. Exactly. On this very show, they brought up how Jimmy joined MJ and Iverson as the only players to have multiple 35, 5, 5 and 5 games in the playoffs. Now they’re saying he’s overrated 😑
That's why I pay more attention to the players over all these analysts... Real players give Zeke props. Dude was a beast, and the 1st small guard to lead his team chips.
Iverson is my favourite player. Take out Iverson and Malone for Bird and Hakeem. We got a list.that being said if you go best starting ever. Bron at PG Steph at two. Jordan at 3. Tim Duncan at 4 Shaq at 5. Bench isaiha. Magic. Kobe, Bird Hakeem. Best all around team hands down. I got guys higher not included but overall that team fits every category. Unstoppable. Kareem, Russell, Wilt are in my top 10. Too many big men. Ill take Shaq Hakeem all day.
This Shaq list and that Dr. J list prove how legendary Karl Malone was. Duncan has a better career but Malone was a better player. Other than Jordan - game for game - few have been better. He had everything. Amazing on both sides. Mj just kept grown men away from winning
@user-rr3fo6hy9q scoring is only one category in basketball,I do believe though Tim if he’d been more selfish could have scored more though but he chose winning over everything else
Top 10 players of all-time 1) Michael Jordan 2) LeBron James 3) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4) Magic Johnson 5) Tim Duncan 6) Kobe Bryant 7) Shaquille O'Neal 8) Larry Bird 9) Wilt Chamberlain 10) Bill Russell
Shaq and iverson was the only players that I seen who were unguardable. They both were fouled all game but the refs wouldn’t even call half of the fouls because it would have ruined the games.
Funny how they said Kobe should be on the bench because he is not a 3, but then say they are fine with Lebron playing the 4 or the PG, they are hypocrites. Lebron is a SF
@@wilsonmatt781 Na full seasons lol these past 2 years LeBron has been listed and played majority of his games as a PF, ever since AD moved to the 5.. In 2019-2020 LeBron played Pg and led the league in assists.
this is not directed at any of my Wht brotha's from the Hood but Nick Wright reminds me of every suburban privileged Wht dude I ever met in college or in my career - runs his mouth about ish he knows nothing about like he's an expert......
You get 3 point gaurds with those starters:magic, kobe,and bron. Someones gonna say kobe wasnt a point guard. He brought the ball up more than Derek fisher for the lakers and has the the most assist for any non point guard behind Lebron(a self proclaimed point guard). That team is UNSTOPPABLE.
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Curry is not better than Zeke. Curry is a specialist. Green runs the offense which I remind you is the Spurs offense which turned Parker in to an All Star.
@@andrejamison2723 WILT AND OLAJUWON ARE GODS TO ALL THESE
@@PIP...33 And Kareem is the Goat
Nick and Shannon gonna have a fight over LeBron 😅 who's gonna win
@@andrejamison2723 KAREEM IS WHAT ?? DERANGED WHY OLD WILT WON VS PRIME KAREEM ??
I’m baffled Shaq didn’t put Dream on this list. He usually gives him a ton of respect.
He's there and kareem so he left a 3rd center to have more guards. He ranks kareem higher than dream i guess
Hakeem is Shaqs daddy
@viltheegr8334 Shaq was a baby in 95 when Shaq joined the Lakers he constantly destroyed Hakeem go look it up.
@@harinderrana9735rofl by that time Hakeem was in the league 15 years and pushing 40. The fact is that Dream dominated young shaq head to head and embarrassed him. Shaq almost always gives Dream all his flowers for that, Shaq 100% just forgot Hakeem on this list
Definitely better than Duncan or Malone
06-07 Kobe was something different
That was the closest thing to MJ I think I will ever see. I remember that year he was killing everybody. Imagine Jordan did that for like 10 years lol
He did that against good defences too.
@jmoney6043 hmm that’s weird, he averaged 20% more points in 2006 than in 2007(36ppg vs 28ppg). you don’t remember 06’ Kobe if that’s your opinion. He had almost 30 games with over 40, not to mention his 81 that year. Jordan averaged over 30ppg for his ENTIRE career, Kobe’s under 25. Kobe is my idol but don’t get it twisted he’s not Michael Jordan.
Jordan ain’t do 06 Kobe for 10 years stop it
@@docallentv he averaged 33 in the playoffs
anyone who leaves Kobe off doesn't know basketball, thank you shaq!
You don't know basketball.... Good luck fighting with mj on who's taking more shots... Both selfish players
Thank you for finally not taking a disrespectful shot at Kobe
Was probably killing Nick not to say something negative.
It's not disrespectful for Kobe to not be in the top 5......because he's not. Rip mamba top 10 and second best SG ever!
@@Darkkent83 Nobody said that. Your the only person to say that...
@@SocomElite everytime this conversation is had around me people say it's disrespectful to not put him top 5 or even the goat.
@@Darkkent83 him not being in some peoples top 5 isn’t the issue. It’s Nick constantly putting Kobe down every chance he gets.
The subtle jab at Max Kellermans iggy take 😂
I still don’t know what he was thinking Kellerman was so serious! Man he probably still argues that
I disagree with Nick saying Steph wouldn’t be on this list 18 months ago, Shaq says Curry is his favorite all time. There’s no way he leaves him off even the bench
People started to include steph top 10 after his 4th title, he might be right
@@kingclutch1978Not me Steph was top 10 a few years ago to me, him winning that 4th chip SOLIDIFIED it for me
Yeah I tend to agree with you, because Shaq has always loved Curry and talked him up unprovoked. But I think when it comes to lists overall he's fairly correct. People used to give a lot of excuses not to include Steph until he got that finals MVP.
(Which I will add is silly, because it's not like Steph simply became amazing during that playoff run. But it just shows we put WAY too much focus on awards. Steph has probably indluenced the game more than anyone in the past 5+ years. So the whole narrative that a player can't be held at high regard because of lack of awards in insanity. In my opinion. You know greatness when you see it. You don't need an award to validate what is obvious. lol)
@@Grievous_ that’s insane
What’s wrong with that though?
why does Steph always have to do more to get respect?
Say it louder for those in the back. It’s ridiculous!
But lebron with 3 rings is in the goat convo?
That’s the media for you. They wanted to fabricate another “goat” in lebron so they try to convince everybody nonstop
@@Heatpad.Murray1well LeBron is easily the greatest or second greatest ever so it’s not the media, it’s his own career that does the talking
*four rings*
All a player can do is play the game. All of the voting and award presentations is left up those who have a say. Just like the year LeBron should’ve been DPOY, but Marc Gasol won it, even while being on the 2nd team All-Defense. Same as how Shaq was dominant during his Lakers title runs, but only came away with one MVP award.
And as far as Iverson, he was a great individual talent whose skills set and style of play made it difficult for the organization to build a well rounded team (offense and defense). That 2001 Sixers teams was all defenders and hustle players while Iverson had the triple green light to shoot as much as he wanted. Absolutely no way he is better than Steph.
People tend to mention IT when referencing Detroit and their era, the two championships and their toughness. Honestly though, skill for skill, he couldn’t touch Steph with a ten foot pole.
Most agree that Steph should’ve been FMVP in 2015. Iguodala won MVP simply because he was inserted into the starting lineup midway through the series and played great defense on LeBron.
In that series Steph averaged 26 pts 5.2 reb 6.3 ast, compared to Iguodala’s 16 pts 5.8 reb 4 ast. There is no way He should’ve been chosen as MVP over Steph.
And to say Larry Bird grabbed mores rebounds than Steph proves nothing. Bird was a 6’10” forward who played a lot closer to the basket. Curry is 6’2” and mainly a perimeter player. That comparison isn’t even sensible just because of their games being so incredibly different.
Magic is the only PG I would was better then Steph, based on accolades, leadership qualities and yeah success.
I only have one problem with this list, why is Karl Malone here ESPECIALLY over guys like Wilt, Russel, Hakeem and Dirk. Also I would replace Isaiah Thomas with Larry Bird so there can be another forward on there
Its just his list of the players he likes, its his starting 5 and 6 off the bench he isnt saying these are the 11 best players of all time im pretty sure, its just that the title is wrong and doesnt match what was actually being talked about in the segment
Malone is better than Russell and Dirk. He's the 2nd or 3rd best PF of all time. I'd take Hakeem but the list already had the top 2 Centers of all time
Because it's power forward position, so he chose the top 2 with Duncan and Malone..
Karl “how to catch a predator” Malone
Karl is a way better player than Dirk was. Karl’s the most under rated player ever
1st unit suffocates their opponent, 2nd unit dances on the body 😤🏀
Bron
Kobe
MJ
KD
Hakeem
Magic
Steph
Bird
Duncan
Shaq
I like this, that starting lineup is nasty lol
First unit has some serious spacing issues. I don't know in what world Kevin Durant is starting over Tim Duncan
@@cheyenne11114 how you gonna say they would have spacing issue but start Timmy? Him and Hakeem would be down there with LeBron driving the ball, now what's spacing issues... Kobe and MJ midrange on each wings, Hakeem down low and KD would play like how he did on GS.. Zero spacing issues. Kobe loved the right hash and teams drove Jordan left..
Good list but I would have shaq instead of hakeem.. but still an awesome list
Hakeem is my favorite player of all time, but Wilt was better, and would have been even more smothering on D if he’d played in the 90s and early 2000s. He wouldn’t have had to hold back against Shaq and Patrick Ewing and he was way too fast and strong for them to deal with. Dude got 55 rebounds in a single game against the most dominant team of his or any era.
Calling Iverson a touch overrated is disgusting. What he accomplished at his size with those talent lacking teams is unbelievable. He averaged 26 a game for his career for Christ sake.
Still not close to top 10
@@greenbeamking4455 Only thing that takes him out of a "top 10" is rings, other than that, hes in my top 1
@@gangstagummybear3432 even if u take rings out he still isnt even top 20. But saying 1 you’re delusional
@@greenbeamking4455 was better than Kobe for a good portion of his career and hes probably in ur top 5 make it make sense.
@@gangstagummybear3432 you're taking a guy who couldn't distribute and was small so making very little defensive impact and didn't win in your number one spot? You must think Zach LaVine is the best player in the league LOL I know he led the league in steals, so did James Harden. I'm not disrespecting Allen Iverson, but you have to factor in his stature as far as his impact defensively and factor in that regardless of not being on a ton of talented teams he was a ball hog. That s*** ain't going to work on a team that has a bunch of studs and they expect ball movement. Finally he's made it very clear he's not coming off the bench LOL
I'm a Lakers fan but not including Larry Bird is a crime
You can say the same about Hakeem. But Facts. Isiah Thomas can get left off for Bird. im also a Lakers fan.
Wildes funny ash slipping UD in there at the end 😂😂
I was at the Palace of Auburn Hills when Detroit beat Kobe and Shaq to win the ship. Had Kobe not made a half court shot at the buzzer in game 4, Detroit would have swept them. Born and live in Michigan but a huge Kobe fan so I was disappointed it wasn't a better series but give Detroit their due they were great.
It didn't need to get that far. Had Detroit fouled Shaq when he held the ball near the 3pt line, the Lakers would have lost Game 2.
Pistons had a great team but they won that Finals b/c the NBA legalized Zone in 2002..... Not enough is talked about concerning the NBA legalizing the Zone b/c the Zone was legalized Specifically to Neutralize Shaq & future Dominant Centers by allowing opponents to guard an AREA instead of the Man.... Shaq's scoring Avg dropped from 28 points to 22 per game IMMEDIATELTY after the Zone was legalized.... Shaq adjusted Brilliantly in Miami by focusing more of Rim Protection & Rebounding to aid Miami's transition fast break & putting the scoring burden on D Wade...... b/c Shaq was jog down court & establish Post position & once he did that it was Curtains - No way to defend him...... After Zone was legalized opponents could put 3 men in the Paint before Shaq even got there & like Most Dominant Bigs Shaq's scoring occurred within 3 feet of the Rim.......
This is what makes Embiid's Not just winning scoring Titles but also Avg'ing close to 35 pts a game by some years Dominating in the post & others moving his game out to the elbow like a 7 foot 325 lbs Kobe Bryant so absolutely Insane.........
@@jackzeldon2883insane when most centers in the nba now are a lot smaller in both height and size? You’re a casual
@@jackzeldon2883 Teams would have 3 centres on the roster just to have bodies to throw at Shaq so he doesn't score at will. No-one's tailoring their roster to beat Embiid who can't even make it out of round 2.
@user-rr3fo6hy9qKareem is better than Jordan u do realize he got 6 MVPs and 5 mvp
Steph belongs on every all time team because if you approach team design, you are trying to balance the floor, and the top players are overloaded in the paint and midrange.
Steph stretches the defense out beyond breaking, giving you a mobile .670 efg option all the way out to half court if you don’t double him.
Think about the offense you’re trying to run: MJ may be Master of midrange and slashing, but a great illustration of the value of spreading the floor is that the paint is packed and a corner 3 by even an average 3 point shooter gives you .525 efg.
In order to unlock the greatest offense of all time, you have to have Steph.
But Steph defense is also weakest on here, lol.
@@iishyxvietxboyii1 he’s a good defender adn more importantly smart defender, and with that level of rim protection with a superstar team, we’re still talking about giving up pull up jumpers that are far worse efg than the .650 Steph will get back at the other end.
Thing is that Steph’s game is by far the most complementary and rare of anybody’s. He gives you paint-quality shots on the perimeter off the dribble against any 1 on 1 D, categorically better than any midrange jumper.
@@djdoc06 you look like you’re from the Bay Area.
@@iishyxvietxboyii1but it makes sense tho.. you don't need top 5 def having top 5 offense.. Stephs lack of size and def are not a liability on that team
Edit.. top 5 offense you know what i mean, "top 5" offensive players
@@iishyxvietxboyii1Steph has led the league in steals…
hakeem olajuwon is the most slept on player of all time considering how good he really was.
He already put Kareem on
Where's Larry at?
Over Isaiah, over Iverson, over Malone
SHAQ HAS THE BEST LIST IVE SEEN SO FAR
Curry / Magic
Jordan / Kobe
LeGOAT / KD
Duncan / K Malone
Kareem / Russell
A.I. getting the disrespect from the media but legends who played the game giving the most respect go to show first Wade now ShaQ they know the agenda 💪🏽
Having AI and Karl Malone and not Russell and Bird is just wrong.
Bruh the Iverson disrespect is astounding. Led the league in scoring 4 times and steals 3 times...that's more than everyone on the list except Jordan.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE WHO JUST DONT KNOW…AI was HIM!!!!! Lol.
Media always got something to say about a.I but u look at it he’s getting more & more respect from legends like ShaQ & Wade shows they know whats up a agenda best lil man on this list 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Ai gets the disrespect from non NBA players
Shaqs lists are always changing depending on his moods. This team of course is extremely dominant although I believe maybe another role player and maybe another shooter. I am telling you, this team all it needs Is a Reggie Miller type of player who is not ball dominant and can keep the defense honest chasing him around picks and creating easy buckets for teammates. Reggie Miller you need them players who are efficient and do not need the ball in hand. I think Shaq probably plans on playing 6'2 Curry at the SG and he can create motion offense as well and best to ever do it. Otherwise it's all fast breaks and iso back to baskets and 1 on 1. I Like his list though.
Thats how they suppose report on this...shout out and respect to yu...how they report is disgusting...
....or depending on who's bribing the most money
Facts 😂😢
If MJ played 1 more year we could’ve seen Lebron and MJ play together.
If you think about it That's why he retired basically, he knew that lebron will take over the league and he didnt want to get embarrassed by the man who will surpassed him decades after it
@@t1ag217🤡
@@anime.headquarter1924 kobe is not lebron, kobe had shaq. Lebron's best teammate was kyrie and its says alot about him as leader and carrying teams to championships
But remember Lebron is soft and couldn’t handle playing in MJ’s era….MJsexuals logic for you
MJ ran from Bron
I wonder how wade feels with shaq putting isiah and AI over him
Wade got him a ring in 06, he was incredible in those finals
It's funny how Shaq hated Kobe when he left but then he fell out with Wade too.
I think D Wade will be like the Big O. He'll always be underrated.
Dwade should worry about being a real dad
going by wade"s comments on AI, AI's haters may care, but Wade wouldnt
Iverson pound for pound was the toughest out of all of them. Real killer
AI probably had the highest degree of difficulty of any superstar in history. Extremely undersized, never played with an all star offensive player in his prime thus defenses honing in on him which explains his fg % but still managed to change the game on the court and off and accumulating many honors and awards with crazy stats for his size. The eye test told you Iverson was definitely one of the greatest and he's my goat 🐐
Yes he did he played with Melo and they both averaged 25+ stop the cap AI is extremely overrated
@@PoohKalonji_97overrated but a hall of famer. Comedy. It’s funny when Steph loss clay for the year, that was the equivalent to AI’s team in Philly. And steph couldn’t even make the playoffs
Literally facts . Ai had probably as worse of a team the 07 cavs had
@@PoohKalonji_97nobody winning with melo as the 1st option he only scored nothing else
@PoohKalonji_97 I said prime AI. He wasn't in his prime in Denver. Still great but not prime Iverson. And the west was LOADED that year. They won 50 games a was a 8 seed one the those seasons. All in all Iverson one of the greatest players the game has ever seen. Anybody who knows anything about ball knows this
Depending on the era we are playing I would swap Curry and Magic. Also I feel like Jordan and Kobe should not be on the floor at the same time, to ball dominant. He would need to take a humble back seat to Jordan and focus on defense or swap out with Isiah. Other then that not a bad list.
That make no sense lebron is more ball dominate than kobe and Jordan
@@scrillasofly You obousley don't watch Lakers games recently. He knows how to differ, the problem is he usually can't. The past year or 2 he's been able to play off ball. Also look at the redeem team from that Olympic year they were on the same team and he was able to co-exist with Kobe
@joek1989 I never said lebron couldn't do it I literally said lebron is more ball dominant I don't see the issue with Mike and Jordan both on a team when they are not ball dominant as lebrons and Lukas of the world ...they score if they can't they move to another side and reposition
Kobe and Jordan could definitely be on court at the same time, yes, they are the 2 best SG's of all time but they are also dominant SF's, with Kobe being a slighly better at small forward than Jordan. Them both on the floor covering both the 2 and the 3 position and being elite defenders is a great lineup. Can't think of any SF that would be better at both defense and offense than Kobe or Jordan, and then also have the ability to drop into the 1 position.
Basketball is position-less now. The All time great players can play with almost anyone… Kobe and MJ could definitely can play together 😂💀. 2 of the the greatest 2-way players in NBA history would have the wing positions on lock.
That line up is ultimate!
They would go 82-0
Winning each game by 20 or more.
lol
Who’s guarding who for you to laugh. Lol. That starting 5 is pure dominance
Depends on what the other teams look like. There's a lot of talent not chosen on this team that can cause problems
Facts
For example, Shaq always struggled against Hakeem Olajuwon, and also against Yao Ming, so take your pick at C
PF - Mr Fundamental Tim Duncan, had a habit of leading the spurs to victories over LeBron James
SF - Larry Bird, before his back troubles, was there anything he couldn't do?!
SG - Tracey McGrady at the very height of his game, killer
PG - Steph Curry, outside threat and great passer
Bench could have Doncic, Antetokumpo, Jokic, Stockton, Garnett, Pippen... plenty of greats not selected
Wow… Nick actually praising Steph and showing some respect for once 😂
Man sometimes I feel like these Lebron guys got the memo that crushing Steph doesn't benefit Lebrons Goat case. It benefits their argument more to praise him imo
I mean he had to the spacing in that starting lineup would be absolutely horrendous. It would be so much one-on-one basketball even with magic Johnson there. Think about it this way, it's highly likely that LeBron James is the best three-point shooter in that group LOL that is nasty
@@cheyenne11114but he is not better than Zeke
@@andrejamison2723 who isn't better than Zeke? If you're talking about my comment on LeBron being the best shooter I was talking about in the starting lineup. Kobe is probably a better 3-point shooter than bron and I definitely want kobe taking that shot at the end but all in all the spacing would be horrendous.
@@Passport_Ninjalebron fans was just made steph laly and draymond got on a plane and begged kd to join him cause that ruined literally any teams chance to win a chip and a 2017 rematch after the 3-1 comeback woulda been better then just making an unstoppable team and adding a top 5 player in the league at that current time two top 5 guys a defensive player of the year and the second best shooter in the league in klay is jits not fair
To say Larry bird is not better than Karl Malone and AI is so unbelievably asinine I cannot believe it. He’s was the best player of the 1980s and the greatest Small Forward ever not named lebron. Give me a break Shaq. If your doing lineups it makes even more sense to put bird in there because he can is arguably the greatest non-point playmaker of all time and he’s the greatest shooter of all time not name Stephen.
Bird is not the second best shooter of all time bro come on
Karl Malone should get the Aaron Hernandez treatment. Scumbag
@user-rr3fo6hy9q bro I’m not a Steph fan lol he’s overrated. And I wasn’t bashing Bird either. I’m just saying he’s not the second best shooter in the history of the nba.
@@mykenzecaswell8358ah shut up
Love the list 👍🏽
Surprised Wilt Chamberlin or Bill Russell arnt on his list.
They played so long ago that they basically played a different sport
he didnt play with/against those two. He'll have more favorable bias for guys like AI, Kalone, Duncan
Nba is just 8 teams back then, not competetive.
@@Gmanu29lol but they played by the nba rule book unlike today. Not to mention it was 1 and done In the playoffs and finals. Your right it was so easy then lmfao.
I know it's his list, but I'm definitely putting Kareem in as a starter over Shaq, and Hakeem over him on the bench too.
If AI was only included because he dropped 48, where is Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson? Stop trying to discredit what Shaq truly believes. He said Iverson was in his top 5 YEARS AGO when they were still playing. No one questions Malone or Barkley in top 10-15 lists, stop doing it to Iverson
agreed
agreed
Starting 5. Give me Bron at the 1 jordan at 2 Kobe at 3 Duncan at 4 an Dream at the 5. Bench give me 1Magic 2DrJ 3Bird 4Kareem and 5Shaq.
Kobe did play good in the 03 finals…. He hit the game winning shot in it game 1…. Then sheed happened and shaq couldn’t handle Ben Wallace
2004 not 2003
How is Kobe(R.I.P) before MJ? ,When Kobe said, Jordan was like a big brother/Mentor💯
Nice list, personally I would have Hakeem over Malone but can't argue with any of his choices too much. Maybe just one more big wing two way star like a healthy Kawhi or young healthy Grant Hill or Bird or Dr. J or Jimmy Butler or even Pippen or prime Kd or PG just to balance out the bench more instead of the 3 small guards for defense purposes even though Magic, Lebron, and Kobe and Jordan could guard most 3s but for the bigger ones a wing stopper off the bench to sick on whoever would be perfect.
Edit: could even just be like a Rodman or Draymond for balance cause there's plenty of firepower but I'd go with prime Kawhi or KD or prime Grant Hill or Jimmy Butler for chemistry and heart since he don't care about having the ball as much.
Prime Kawhi all day and twice on Sundays. He doesn't get the respect he deserves because of injuries.
I agree I would of taken Hakeem over Malone.
@@3.dametime… idk what prime Kawhi looks like
I can. The DREAM TEAM is waaaaaaay better than that bias list. But I digress 😊
@user-rr3fo6hy9q Dude! He was Michael Jordan before he became H.I.M. Ah ight bee✌🏿
afro kobe and 80s mj 🐐🐐🐐
Nah 24 Kobe > 8 Kobe.
Good show 🔥👍
If Shaq had any conviction he'd have picked 11 centers, because what's more unstoppable than 11 guys who can "just go out and dominate?"
My all time starting 5… and sixth man
1. Accurate shooting - Stef Curry
2. Consistent rebounding - Dennis Rodman
3. A beast who can rim protect Shaquille O’Neal
4. Someone with high basketball IQ who can play 1 through 5 - LeBron James
5. Micheal Jordan - no explanation necessary
6th man - Kobe Bryant with the mamba mentality
I'm shocked Shaq left out Hakeem his nemesis 😮!
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. LeBron
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Kobe
9. Hakeem
10. Shaq
Dream gets no Respect. No way Steph, Isiah, Malone, or AI is better than Dream. He the best defender ever! He swept Shaq. The most undefendable player in the post
"better" is such a strong word, no matter how you look at it, I try to refrain from using it since it is so hard to truly gauge someone actually being "better" than someone else.
@@gangstagummybear3432 cmon, out of those players, To be the Driving force of your team in the draft, who are you picking 1st. Dream, Steph, Isiah or Malone? You know who you are picking. I know the choice is probably really between Dream and Steph. But to me 3 of Steph titles are discounted. He beat LeBron without his full team, Kyrie and Love out. Then loses to that team the next year up 3 to 1. Then two chips with Durant being the driving force. Dream had two years where he murdered a generation of centers, Shaq, Ewing, and Robinson. Won MVP, DPOY, Championship and Finals MVP in the same year
The title should be "of" not "off"... completely different meaning lol
For me Karl Malone is the 13th best player of all time. Took what he wanted and had great longevity; age never slowed him down. Him and OJ are my two favourite athletes.
Karl Malone was incredible, preyed on NBA opponents like he... well.
when you put karl malone and number 13 in the same sentence, it brings up an old issue..
@@josephdurnin7698 preyed? lmao
Ayo bro you petty af. Hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
without Stockton Malone is nowhere
Shaq at C: Jordan at SG: KD at SF: Lebron at PF: Steph at PG:
Must dominant center ever. Arguably the 2 best players of all time. KD... Arguably the best scorer of all time. And Steph... Best shooter of all time. And let Lebron run point from the PF position lol
Starting 5: Magic, Goat, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem.
6 off bench: Curry, Kobe, Lebron, KD, Shaq.
Putting bird over lebron at the starting five?😂😂
@@notbeforemay5th I’m so proud you can read.
@@_HunnidProofits called sarcasm and putting bird over Lebron is just delusional
@@notbeforemay5theasily. Lebron would make Lebron cry...more.
@@a.ojohnson5036 not delusional at all if you actually know ball.
Malone over dream is crazy
Great list. This is the thing. Whenever ex players or even some current ones make their own lists, Kobe is usually in there. In some of them he is close to the very top of the list. Media folks are the only ones constantly trying to force him further and further down and off these lists. Glad Chris finally made some mention of that moment he had with Shaq. If the topic is Kobe, never listen to Nick, ESPN or most big media outlets. The way they cover him is a disgrace.
Also good to see Shaq finally having the confidence to put himself high up on these lists. Skip has him in his top 5 too.
Thinnk about it, every arena Kobe went to, the crowd would often eventually be won over by Kobe's effort and performance and would get MVP chants. Imagine that being your team and your fans are cheering for the opponent, yea I'd be salty. A lot of these media people are fans like us, they have bias, I'd be salty to if some medium size guard was terrorizing my team and the fans are giving him praise?! Most people DON"T KNOW the fact that MVP was chosen by players before 1980-81, after that it was CHANGED to media reporters and broadcasters. There's different biases at play. Players would have been biased too, in their own way.
I've watched NBA since end of MJ years, and never did i see LeBron garner MVP chants like Kobe, it's only the media that props up LeBron and tears down Kobe, it's so weird.
I agree..... GOAT debates should be excluded to how each player performed in his prime in the playoffs & Finals w/ the most pressure vs other all time Greats & Kobe is in the Top 5 All Time & he's well ahead of Lebron......
@@paradigmshift7541 I've seen guys like AI, Matt Barnes & Stephen Jackson say they don't know why Kobe's not even in the GOAT debate and why the media barely has him top 10 if at all. Stack has him #2 behind MJ & ahead of LeBron. I grew up in the 2000s and the first season I watched basketball was the year the Lakers won that first one with Shaq & Kobe. And even then, it was clear a young Kobe was special. Shaq getting fouled out, no problem. The way the media has spun it over the years. They make it seem like Kobe was carried by Shaq all the time and not that it was an actual duo. Then they criticize him for only winning 1 MVP when they're the fools that only voted him MVP once.
That little sentence you heard from Broussard giving him credit for 2004 playoffs is the most you'd hear these guys say. They even go as far as credit Gasol more for when the Lakers went 3 straight finals again like it wasn't Kobe who's the driving force. 😂
@@jackzeldon2883 I like LeBron but I have no idea why there is this obsession by these guys that he is top 2 all time or that he's ahead of Kobe. They've been putting him there from around 2016 when he only won 3 championships and had meltdowns so thats how I know its just some weird favouritism or bias in regards to lifting him high on the list. Had they start to do it recently instead then I'd think they're just being objective and looking at longevity. For me personally, he needs to win more. And even then, he is not as skilled as Kobe was.
1. Jordan 2. Magic 3. Bird 4. Kobe 5. Kareem 6. Russell 7. LeBron 8. Olajuwon 9. Duncan 10. Chamberlain 11. Curry 12. Barkley
Starting lineup:
PG: Doncic
SG: West
SF: Bird
PF: Dirk
C: Jokic
Bench:
PG: Stockton
SG: Pete
SF: Havlicek
PF: Kevin Mchale
C: Bill Walton
Honorable mentions: Nash, Barry, Cousy, Mullin, Pau Gasol
I smell racism
Cute list sans the melanin.
No White Mamba? White Chocolate ? Caruso? Austin Reeves?! Reeves would COOK Cousy 😂
Is this the All Caucasian/George Bush Response Team?
Wildes with UD reference that’s my boy!!!
"If i had to pick one player to shoot the game winning shot, I'd pick MJ. If I had to pick one player to shoot a shot to save my life, I'd pick larry bird "
I agree with the Bird comment. But Air Jordan isn’t that guy that you put the game on the line. However, to close out a game or series. Bar none it’s MJ🥳🍻
Steph’s shooting is not a cheat code without the moving screening throughout his career
nah even without the screens he can run around and find himself a good shoot
Kobe is top 3. Period been saying this since before the Mamba past away
Not even top 5
@greenbeamking4455 facts and its not disrespectful at all.
Top 10 sure. Not top 5 for me.
@@greenbeamking4455 you must be 12
@@PSYCHOWORLD Or maybe he has a different opinion? Impossible, right?
Love the starting 5
Solid list. Kobe is top 5 no matter what the media spins. End of story
Na
PG - Stockton
SG - Jerry West
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Nowitzki
C - Jokic
Bench - Adam Morrison, Phil Jackson, Cody Zeller, Steve Kerr.
Title should be shaq puts up a list of players he personally likes with zero objectivity...
This is probably my favorite sports talk show.
Solid list. Personally I think Barkley was a hair better than Malone, and it’s hard to exclude Bird when Magic is there and they were always neck and neck.
Objectively Malone was better than Barkley at stats and winning and everything (including defense) except rebounding.
@@GentM2015 Fair enough, although I believe that playing w a guy like Stockton for so long probably made his life easier. Probably accurate to say Hakeem was better than either of them.
Personally, I'll exclude Curry. He's more of a product of today's style of play, a phenomenal product, but still a product nonetheless. Definitely with you on Barkley and Bird, especially Bird. And quite frankly, Shaq would be close to my top 10 but he wouldn't exactly be in my top 10.
@@jehushaphat I'd say you have it backwards, today's style of play is a product of Curry.
1. Mike
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. Bron
5. Magic
6. Kareem
7. Steph
8. ShaQ
9. Bird
10. Russel
11. Hakeem
Go back and watch 04 finals… Kobe lost the series for us, he was trying too hard to be Finals MVP over Shaq.
Yeah no he didnt. Shaq got stopped by detroit defense and bell wallace n no malone or fox to get detroit to change their coverage means kobe had to hero ball and won 1 game due to it. Not to mention dealing with that grape case. So u already know what fans were saying during that
@@justthatguy1808 he was unnecessarily playing hero ball on 22/3/4 averages, shooting 38% from the field and 17% from three. Shaq was 27/11/2 shooting 63% on limited touches because Kobe kept trying to do too much.
Shaq isn't better than Hakeem,Kareem & the late greats:Wilt and Russell.
I’ve noticed this trend where players give so much more credit to Kobe than analysts do AND they begrudgingly put Lebron on their list because he’s so far and away at the very least in the top 3 of best players ever. No debate here just something I noticed.
Well the media is is in Lebron's payroll unlike Kobe who's hated by the media and loved by his peers. He gets an MVP chant wherever he goes, while Lebron gets laughed at even by fans whichever arena he goes to.
Klutch people all in the media... LeBron mouthpieces....
Kobe & Shaq is the greatest Duo ever..
He could have left Malone off this list. I can think of 13 reasons not to have him on any list.
Dude we get it.... you and Karl and go back to watching your adolescent stuff
Because he had to choose a couple of power forwards, Duncan and Malone are the top 2 power forwards ever
Malone living rent free in your head haha
PG: Jerry West
SG: Luka Doncic
SF: Bird
PF: Dirk
C: Jokic
A WAY better list than the one that Dr. J., Shaq's mentor, provided the other day.....
Agreed. I think Dr J was coming from a personal nostalgic point of view, not trying to come up with the best list.
Why because u didn’t know some of the players Julius mentioned
My Greatest 5
1. Magic
2. Jordan
3. Kobe
4. Duncan
5. Hakeem
Better list : Hakeem , Duncan, LeBron, Jordan, and Curry starting 5 . Off the bench Kareem, Bird, Pippen, Kobe, and Magic
Get off his meat, you’ve got glaze all up in your cheeks
Bird off the bench and not staring in that group? Lay off the rock
@@jerry42023Larry Bird is not better than Tim Duncan at PF & Lebron at SF so he clearly sits on the bench
Swap Magic and curry, replace AI with Hakeem. Too much ball hogging with AI/Kobe/Jordan/LeBron in the team.
AI is not overrated.
Did someone on that panel say that? If so, they have simply caught wind of what his haters have claimed for years with their nonsense trying to discredit him, he probably thought he can easily say that garbage and the iverson haters would simply tag along and support him, what a bum whoever said that nonsense.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Nick and Chris both said it. I don’t get the discourse. Iverson was a top 5 player of HIS ERA right? Well, he played in an era with Tim Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron which is 4 of the consensus top 10. So how far away is he really from a top 10-15 list?
@@gangstagummybear3432 good to see you again btw my brother 💪🏾 😎
@@officialconch You already know, whenever I see Iverson in something like this, I already know haters are going to try to come for him, the guy is underrated, and overHATED, that is a better term to use.
@@gangstagummybear3432 Yes. Exactly. On this very show, they brought up how Jimmy joined MJ and Iverson as the only players to have multiple 35, 5, 5 and 5 games in the playoffs. Now they’re saying he’s overrated 😑
That's why I pay more attention to the players over all these analysts... Real players give Zeke props. Dude was a beast, and the 1st small guard to lead his team chips.
Wilt Chanmerlain, Michael Jordan, Oscer Robinson, Larry Legend, Kobe. Unstoppable.
Love it 😅
No Larry Bird is criminal. Lebron? 🤣
I was abt to agree until i saw u laugh at bron. don't be a Hater. u to old for that. Bird should be over Curry
Curry, MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Shaq/ Bench Magic, Kobe, Larry Bird, Malone, Kareem
I wonder why Hakeem isn’t on his list …. That man still hurt from that DREAM shake 🤣
He already has Kareem
@@mike.cdn7212 what?
Funny they didn’t mention you know who in the title to get clicks 😂😂
Right?
Iverson is my favourite player. Take out Iverson and Malone for Bird and Hakeem. We got a list.that being said if you go best starting ever. Bron at PG Steph at two. Jordan at 3. Tim Duncan at 4 Shaq at 5. Bench isaiha. Magic. Kobe, Bird Hakeem. Best all around team hands down. I got guys higher not included but overall that team fits every category. Unstoppable. Kareem, Russell, Wilt are in my top 10. Too many big men. Ill take Shaq Hakeem all day.
Malone at 40+ was embarassing KG and Duncan when guarding them. 90s players a whole different convo
KG averaged 25ppg against Karl Malone in their matchups, while Malone averaged 20?
Malone was winning tho KG didn’t win Until Boston
@@johnmartin5520 What did he win ???
@@johnmartin5520Malone zero rings
@@johnmartin5520 you’re crazy for putting the word "winning" and "Malone" on the same sentence 😂
1:41 brou almost said short😂
People gotta stop giving Malone love
C: Jokic
PF: Dirk
SF: Bird
SG: Luka Doncic
PG: Jerry West
When you leave Larry Legend off your list credibility becomes an issue
THE BEST GLUE GUY, HASLEM. he really said it lol
This Shaq list and that Dr. J list prove how legendary Karl Malone was. Duncan has a better career but Malone was a better player. Other than Jordan - game for game - few have been better. He had everything. Amazing on both sides. Mj just kept grown men away from winning
if only he could've not impregnated children
Malone was not a better player than Duncan by any measure I can think of
@@jonathanshauf9191And what does that have to do with basketball?
@@OfficalTrollHunter Nothing. But it does detract from his legacy
@user-rr3fo6hy9q scoring is only one category in basketball,I do believe though Tim if he’d been more selfish could have scored more though but he chose winning over everything else
Kobe is not a top 10 player. Hakeem typically gets left off and Hakeem is easier a better player than Kobe.
Karl Malone is easily the best power forward ever. Look at what he was doing to Duncan in 04'. Jordan just kept grown men away from winning.
Again my three videos taken by Mr Jordan illegally has stood the test of all Time
Wrong... he's clearly not
Top 10 players of all-time
1) Michael Jordan
2) LeBron James
3) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4) Magic Johnson
5) Tim Duncan
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Shaquille O'Neal
8) Larry Bird
9) Wilt Chamberlain
10) Bill Russell
Glad Karl Malone is getting credit. Such longevity. He capitalized on young years and took advantage when he got older.
Not the only thing he took advantage of 🤣
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@@AphasicMutepolice!!! He’s right here!! 👮🏾♂️👮🏾♂️👮🏾♂️🚓🚓🚓🚨
@@AphasicMuteFound him!
lol, he really capitalized being young and having a 14 yr old baby mama...
Kinda like Jerry Lee lewis
Not matter how you shuffle the list around, this list would dominate anything in its path.
Shaq and iverson was the only players that I seen who were unguardable. They both were fouled all game but the refs wouldn’t even call half of the fouls because it would have ruined the games.
Wilt was unguardable and in an era where you couldn’t just bulldoze defenders as Shaq was allowed to. Shaq was guarded very handily by Dream.
Iverson had 16 at half one game, Phil put Kobe on him and he didn't score again for the rest of the game.
@@rell_5000 when
Kobe, Lebron, KD, Steph weren’t unguardable but AI was?
Kobe, Lebron, KD, Steph aren’t unguardable but AI is?
In order:
Jordan
Lebron
Kareem
Magic
Wilt
Kobe
Shaq
Duncan
Curry
Hakeem
Bird
Bill
Giannis
Durant
Wade
Funny how they said Kobe should be on the bench because he is not a 3, but then say they are fine with Lebron playing the 4 or the PG, they are hypocrites. Lebron is a SF
LeBron has played full seasons as a PG and PF tho
@AllBackends when? He probably played the position at times during a game, just like other players have.
@@wilsonmatt781 Na full seasons lol these past 2 years LeBron has been listed and played majority of his games as a PF, ever since AD moved to the 5.. In 2019-2020 LeBron played Pg and led the league in assists.
this is not directed at any of my Wht brotha's from the Hood but Nick Wright reminds me of every suburban privileged Wht dude I ever met in college or in my career - runs his mouth about ish he knows nothing about like he's an expert......
@AllBackends if that is true, he is still listed as a SF. You can't move the goal post to fit for you, but then say other people as wrong.
You get 3 point gaurds with those starters:magic, kobe,and bron. Someones gonna say kobe wasnt a point guard. He brought the ball up more than Derek fisher for the lakers and has the the most assist for any non point guard behind Lebron(a self proclaimed point guard). That team is UNSTOPPABLE.