@@stonersimpson_ Compare the playoff stats between Kobe and Duncan.. Its not even remotely close, not to mention that Shaq carried kobe for his first 3 rings when Kobe was shooting .3% and .18% from 3
@@goterdordel7385 you going by stats , idgaf about that . Rather watch kobe over Duncan. Duncan is great player ,kobe is just greater..! but in MY Opinion kobe over Duncan. And of course Duncan stats are better when all his shots come in the paint
@@AB_7092 you could argue shaq was just as good on Orlando. Man was in better shape as well as a beast defensively. While still being an offensive juggernaut.
Took him a long time, but I like how Shaq can finally laugh at himself. If this was his early days on TNT, he would've berated Chuck for being ringless.
@jozo misteriozo Lebron is no2 or 3 behind MJ and possibly kareem. I can't name any other guys that was as good as him during their prime or anywhere NEAR the same longevity he's had.
Shaq averaged 28.5 and 12.5 with 60% shooting with 2.5 blocks in the 95 finals. He was only reason the game wasn't lost by 40 lol. The role players was just god awful. Dennis Scott Scott 31% for the series.
Kenny is definitely just stirring up Chuck and Shaq to clash. Coz he knows that Shaq is not in Chuck's list. Look how Kenny tried to pull back and reason that his number 5 is either Hakeem or Shaq when Chuck said why is Hakeem not part of Kenny's top 5.
@@SuperSonic_868 Man they absolutely need to repeat It and in this way more successive and updated scenario, it would look great. With all the guys and crew of back in the day of course.
@Bear Omega Ernie's lucky because without this hilarious banter and chemistry between the three of them, the show wouldn't do as well as it has. Facts.
@@juniorgonzalez3900 Not hating on Ernie at all, Junior. Ernie's the Man. Just responding to someone who stated that Shaq, Charles, and Kenny were lucky because Ernie "allowed " them to be on the show.
every time they do these lists and Shaq gets Mr Sensitive it just brings me back to when Kobe said that if Shaq had his work ethic he would be the greatest of all time.
agree. Chuck's list is right on ... however, Oscar Robertson better than Magic or Bird ? Shaq is top 15 or 20, nothing wrong with that and Shaq himself said was never 100% invested in fixing his free throw shooting or staying in shape,
He should be in most people's top 5....5 time NBA Champion, only won less than 50 games in lockout season (99), 2 x League MVP, all-nba team 15 times (1,2,3 combined) and all-defensive team (1,2 combined) 15 times.....not to mention he was the most coachable and drama-less superstar.
Cristian I don’t see how he ranks lower than 10. MJ, lebron, kareem, magic, and russell are the only ones who are clearly ahead of him. I would say bird, shaq, Kobe, and wilt are all arguably better, but no way he ranks out of the top 10
Dude has a borderline perfect career. Kenny didn't list out his full ten though, and Chuck put a lot of weight on older players not named Bill and Wilt. Don't think he was too disrespected, but, I personally have Duncan in the 5-8 range.
@@369pendulum He is top 10, he's the best defensive C, heck... One of the best defenders of all time. Best post game of all time. And he won his rings. So, he's definitely top 10 lol.
Shaq is the 4th Greatest NBA player ever 1 Mj 2 Beans Rip bruh 3 LeBron 4th Shaq I don't care what anyone says & Dream Kareem Bird Duncan & Magic and Wilt are my top 10. Scottie is my 11th player to then Zeke Isaiah Thomas
@@GHOST-nk9im Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Duncan are easily the best team for their positions. You could make a case easily for Russell and Wilt being better centres than Shaq.
@@GHOST-nk9im Yeah, thats exactly why Russell beat Jerry West and Elgin Baylor in every single finals appearance they had against each other. Shaq also could only win with another Hall Of Famer on his team. He clearly toyed with Ben Wallace.... oh wait he lost to him. Lol. Russell lost 1 out of 12. Go figure.
KingCo Anderson I didn’t say it was a problem, I thought it was funny, he surely didn’t mean to show it on live tv lol he’s done it before but u could tell it was clearly an accident cause he thought they went off air
Kenny smith putting shaq over Hakeem is blasphemy!!! Smh...wow...like he should be banned from the city of Houston How quickly did we forget about the dream shake...
@@Mistahollywood0 Shaq is the most dominant force in NBA history. But hakeems game is just way better. His offensive game and defensive game with the footwork and point guard skills he has makes him literally unguardable.
@@Mistahollywood0 crazy talk. Hakeem was insanely better on the defensive side of the ball. First in blocks, 9th in steals as a center, 2 time dpoy, 9 time defensive player of the year. And offensively its about even. Shaq is 8th in pts but hakeem is 11th. Hakeem and shaq are 14th and 15th in rebounds so thats even too. But steals while hakeem is 9th shaq isnt even top 250. Blocks hakeem is 1st shaq is 9th. So the gap of those 2 defensive stats give hakeem a large edge.
We can all disagree on the order but 90% of NBA fans and historians probably have these 10 guys in their top 10. Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Lebron, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, and Bird.
Nope. Not a majority. Only around 14 people agreeing. Some say oscar others hakeem doc west etc.. a lot of great players. Putting recent guys is bias for the modern time. But thats fickle n changes with time too
Harley Inglis I'm 22 so I haven't lol, but I've read all about it and how Russell owned him, which is why I would put him towards the end of the top 10 rather than the front
1. Michael Jordan - 11 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 8 3. LeBron James - 8 4. Magic Johnson - 6 5. Larry Bird - 5 6. Tim Duncan - 5 7. Wilt Chamberlain - 5 8. Bill Russell - 5 9. Shaquille O'Neal - 4 10. Kobe Bryant - 3 TOP 10 based on finals and season MVP combined
Actually, Shaq's 08-09 which was 2 years before he retired, he was 3rd team all nba at 37. I don't know why he ever left Phoenix, he was rejuvenated there- played 75 games.
Shaq said in an interview that Hakeem is the best center of all-time. Interestingly, around the time when Shaq lost to Hakeem by a sweep, people organized a 1-on-1 between them. Too bad that it didn't happen.
Hakeem played in the most competitive era in his position and he dominated all of them. Ridiculous not to have him in the top 10. Remember that Shaq dominated in an era where all the dominant Centers where gone or past their primes.
The 90's were an expansion league and Hakeem won AFTER Jordan left. The 90's were watered down Hakeem is a top end big man, a shade behind Shaq, Kareem, and Duncan. Don't lie though Hakeem was never the best player in a competitive league.
I'm with yall that Olajuwon is top 10 all time. He's a top 3 defender and a top 5 offensive big. I'm just saying he got one of the most talent poor chips. The teams he beat were pretty atrocious and is why he's the 4th greatest big man ever. If he got his chips in more competitive eras he could fight Shaq and Duncan, but he didn't
@@amezsherzad Shaq isn't top 10. How can you be top 10 all-time in your field if you didn't maximize your talent? That makes no sense. Shaq once admitted directly to Kobe Bryant's face in an interview, " Because I had you, I could just chill out in the summer." Shaq needed a Top 3 SG of all-time (Kobe/Wade) to win rings. Shaq got swept twice with 1st team All-NBA guard Penny Hardaway in 95 and 96. SWEPT. No shame in losing to Hakeem or MJ, but he couldn't get one game. Shaq got swept two more times with 19 and 20 year-old Kobe in 98 to Utah and 99 to San Antonio. Then Kobe reached his early prime in 2000 and suddenly Shaq won 3 straight rings. Do the math. Conversely, Kobe went to 3 straight FInals and won 2 without a top 75 player. Dwyane Wade carried a past his prime Shaq to a ring. Fun fact: Shaq wasn't even the 2nd leading scorer for the Heat in the 06 Finals. That was Antoine Walker. Shaq wasn't even the best center on his own team in that series. Zo outplayed him if you actually watched that series.
"Better" is so subjective. Better depends on what that individual person values more. For me, I think Hakeem was better than Shaq because he was more skilled at the position. Others might value dominance. I think both arguments hold water.
Agreed. Hakeem was a "better" player than Shaq IMO. Shaq had weaknesses, The Dream had none. Plus, he outplayed every other great center (including Shaq) of his era. Which just so happened to be the golden era of Big Men in the NBA. So that and more is why I would absolutely rate him in my Top 5 before Shaq. But to each their own.
Hakeem had more skills to begin with. And shaq was only more dominant cause he played in an era rite after all the dominant centers were gone. Only center more dominant than shaq was wilt chamberlin and that was still based on there era
@@mattb1446 I think Hakeem had more skills in the beginning, middle and end. Shaq never devolped a jump shot like Hakeem. Shaq never had the footwork. And Shaq was never as good as the dream defensively.
I think they should categorize the top 5 or 10 by positions. Not randomly. For example: Centers, Power forwards, Small forwards, Point Guards, and Shooting Guards.
@@RandomShowerThoughts dont insult or swear at people. Pray and repent to God. Believe in the trinity - THE SON OF GOD JESUS, THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Duncan and Hakeem are always criminally underrated. I'd take both over Shaq. Personally, I have Shaq in the 10-15 range, so I'm right there with Chuck. But that's not a criticism; being top 15 means you were a remarkable player and legend.
@@jvr6809 Duncan has more titles than Shaq, more league MVPs, more All-NBA selections, and WAY more All-Defensive Team selections. There's a reason ESPN ranked Duncan (#8) ahead of Shaq (#10). But don't let facts get in the way of your losing argument.
@@jvr6809 Tim Duncan is better than Shaq. In every metric, except maybe dominance, Tim Duncan was a better player. He was a better player on both Offense and Defense. He was a better leader. He was more accomplished in both the regular season and the post season, and has more accolades overall. Shaq was a dominating player, but Tim Duncan has the hardware to back him up in everything relating to basketball.
@@jvr6809 duncan: more rings, never played with a top 25 player, more consistent, higher longevity, better defensive player. Taking duncan every time, and hakeem is one of the only players to drag his team to the finals without another star AND win a chip. 2nd year he had clyde. Hakeem went through the mvp david Robinson AND shaq for the 1st one. No way im taking shaq over hakeem!
shaq played against duncan and robinson in a playoff series and dominated them both. in his prime shaq destroyed them both, but duncan had the longevity and hence the better career. Better basketball player? hard to tell very subjective
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@@SooHooSamaSito unfortunaly in 10,15 years people will debate over stats and not performances and the true is that Lebron's finals record isn't gonna help him.
I don’t see lebron’s name being discussed for as long and as much as MJ’s after his career finishes. He’s great, but MJ’s on his own level of greatness so once lebron is gone they’ll be discussing the new guy vs MJ
@@miguelmatias2549 and to me that's why LeBron has always cared so much about his stats. Well like almost all Nba players, but to me, him and KD are the two that are more interested in stats than all the rest. And that's a thing that have always made me holding something from those two, even if it was just a little, behind some guys like Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Mj, Magic and Kareem (those who won more than the two guys above, more importantly)
My Top 10 All Time List 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. LeBron James 4. Magic Johnson 5. Kobe Bryant 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Larry Bird 8. Tim Duncan 9. Hakeem Olajuwon 10. Wilt Chamberlain
I don’t understand dudes that don’t know history like what Kenny said. How da fuq Kobe better than Shaq when Shaq was the better player on Kobe’s team for 3 championships?
Shadow Flame 30 6 and 6 next to shaq’s 32 and 12..... not much carrying there🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ also an all star in his second season coming off the bench, also he was 23 years old when he got 3 rings! He was a puppy for god’s sake you idiots hahahahaha.... then has a horrible team with kwame, smush, walton, brian cook..... then finally has a decent team and proved everyone wrong winning twice repeating.... his final years he played 6 games 34 games and then 54 games..... he didnt have the same opportunities as other legends at the start of his career and suffered un-playable injuries his whole career and still look at all the total numbers, accolades and records he broke.... also nobody talks about his defense.... 12 defensive all nba teams... thats second all time.... 9 times the first team.... thats tied for most all time with jordan..... and everybody’s favorite boy lebron only got 5 of those....... kobe also got every laker record except for rebounds and assists.... he averaged for career 25 5 5..... not much of a ball hog for his primary role being scorer...... he is the player which worked the most to study and try to make his game as perfect as possible.... even tho im not gonna put him over mj or kareem, he is my goat
Shadow Flame he was also scoring 40 point games in conference finals and the finals..... we seeing 23 year olds today struggling to average 20 a game that was cookies for kobe
Fun fact: BOTH Olajuwon and Shaq have less regular season RPG than Chuck! Olajuwon has fewer regular season PPG than Chuck! Digest that! Those who did not see Barkley play missed a lot. And as far as Olajuwon's and Shaq's stats - Wilt is laughing up there. Their rebounding was a joke. Like Kareem's.
Kinda weird that you respected his opinion in the first place. For a guy who played with an all time great Center in Hakeem, Kenny forgets about him on a constant basis
Magic is top 5 period the same as Wilt is ...every sucker puts MJ first but why ? Only because he never lost a final and is 6-0 ... i have seen players that where as good as MJ ...Hakeem was Amazing , Duncan , Magic , Bird , Kobe ...but still they pick MJ 🤦♂️ They should stop this ...the top tier would be more accurate because u can’t compare a center with a guard, or compare eras
The disrespect Tim Duncan gets is ridiculous. No one even mentioned him and he's a lock for a top 10 spot. The man is 1 greatest shot in NBA playoffs away from being 6-0 just like MJ, best power forward ever, leader of a dynasty and consistent but because he's not flashy and played for the "broccoli" Spurs gets penalized in these list discussions.
Can't name 10 players with a better resume than Tim Duncan and dominated both ends in their primes. Duncan was a great defender for all of his career. He's top 5-7.
This is why it’s so hard to create a list of the greatest players in the nba since there are so many different great players who affected the game differently, played differently, excelled in different parts, number of accolades, and other circumstances, the only thing that I see is common in these lists is that MJ is number one most of the time.
Kareem is better than Jordan. Kareem won 3 titles in high school, 3 titles in college and then 6 titles in the NBA along with countless records. Kareem won wherever he was his entire career. Jordan was more flashy but Kareem was way more accomplished.
@@bencarlson4300 Kareem was the best player multiple times when he won in the 80s. And Magic was also one of the best all time players. Pippen never would have been the best with the Bulls. He wasn’t that type of an offensive player. But he sure was the best perimeter defender they had. Made Jordans life a lot easier. And the Bulls were stacked with other talent too. Either way, Kareem had a much more decorated career at all levels of the game.
@@dlakerguy Factoring in that Jordan was 6’6” and played a lot less total basketball, Jordan, to me, looks more accomplished. If you play longer, you do more, same reason LeBron is going to pass Kareem in points soon.
I noticed Kenny never addressed Hakeem's spot. He said interchangeable with Shaq so that means he should be 6th if Shaq is 5th. But he said 6 and 7 are Magic and Bird. He was caught off guard when even Shaq said he won't pick himself before Hakeem. Kenny's kissing A as always.
@@morpher728 Exactly. And I’d argue that guards usually have more skill. They have to, otherwise there are millions of 6ft-6ft3 guards waiting to take their place
When I was a kid I wanted to be Dr. J and Larry Bird. As a 45 year old man, I want to be Ernie. I would love his job. These guys lift spirits and it will be a very sad day if these guys ever step down.
Tim Duncan is penalized for lack of personality & flare in his game. He was as consistent as warm weather in Miami.
Absolutely. Probably the greatest to receive the least amount of rep. Forget Shaq, Kobe Bryant comes second to him too.
@@DangleFront absolutely not. Kobe over Duncan.
@@stonersimpson_ Spoken like a true casual (even more so if the topic Is all-time between them)
@@stonersimpson_ Compare the playoff stats between Kobe and Duncan.. Its not even remotely close, not to mention that Shaq carried kobe for his first 3 rings when Kobe was shooting .3% and .18% from 3
@@goterdordel7385 you going by stats , idgaf about that . Rather watch kobe over Duncan. Duncan is great player ,kobe is just greater..! but in MY Opinion kobe over Duncan. And of course Duncan stats are better when all his shots come in the paint
I gotta give Ernie credit - guy knows when to insert himself and when to sit back and let the conversation play out. Great host
That’s why he the goat
low key MVP of the video
@@nickbh15 you always need one white person moderating
@@elipav484 Why?
@@GoyFromFinland you know why
Chuck to Kenny: "Are you taking Shaquille over Hakeem?"
Shaq: "No he's not, cause I'm not"
Shaq always pays homage to Hakeem
Hes too humble, I will take Shaq over Hakeem any day of the year. Only center I will take before Shaq are Wilt and KAJ, arguably Russell.
@e facts
e Hakeem also swept shaq in the finals. Ik shaq was young, but still.
@@AB_7092 you could argue shaq was just as good on Orlando. Man was in better shape as well as a beast defensively. While still being an offensive juggernaut.
Ben Reilly no doubt Shaq was a beast but Hakeem was just slightly better than shaq in most aspects
Shocked Shaq didn't ruin the vibe by telling Chuck he never won a ring.
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Its cause they weren’t in the room together lol… he missed him so he didnt get that mad
He got an mvp over
Jordan in 93’
Rangz ernie
Hes brought it up a million times by now.
Nah. Chuck looked Shaq in the eyes and said "you're 11th". LOLOLOL
Shaq played under his capability-- that's the reason he isn't top 10.
Nandan Nayak shaq only has one mvp
@@SuperRobertoClemente Yes. Shaq with a work ethic like Kobe would have been the GOAT. It is kinda amazing what he achieved being lazy.
@@vt5281 agree but magic ahead of bron has to happen
@@qmb3115 why ?
Ernie and Kenny look like they're in different parts of the same room. Lol.
They might actually be 😂
Probably, those 2 are straight bros. They probably link up on disc every night and play COD and ish like that
@Rayaan Hussain you know ernie would be carrying kenny
same lighting in a white room
I love you
I was dying at how chuck was screaming and everyone else was calm af😂
Thats cause he outside and itd be hard to hear him if he spoke normally
uh hello he was outside
@@sbradshaw1886 oh okay. I thought he was tipsy.
he's just defending his point because they don't like his top 10.
It's because he's shouting over the birds and dolphins
Took him a long time, but I like how Shaq can finally laugh at himself. If this was his early days on TNT, he would've berated Chuck for being ringless.
he's still got you doing it in the comments for him
@@sammy45654565 who cares this person ain’t shaq.
“I DIDN’T PUT HIM BEHIND NOBODY...LIKE, CRAZY!” 😂😂😂 we love u Chuck
You can tell how much Shaq actually respects Hakeem, he remembers what happened from the ‘95 finals
@jozo misteriozo "X Legged Kenny"😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@jozo misteriozo Lebron is no2 or 3 behind MJ and possibly kareem. I can't name any other guys that was as good as him during their prime or anywhere NEAR the same longevity he's had.
The Dream is actually the revolutionary modern-game center so
Hakeem dominating shaq is one of the biggest myths ever
Shaq averaged 28.5 and 12.5 with 60% shooting with 2.5 blocks in the 95 finals. He was only reason the game wasn't lost by 40 lol.
The role players was just god awful. Dennis Scott Scott 31% for the series.
It's crazy to watch Kenny Smith not picking is teamate Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon.
Kenny's a sell out
Honestly hakeem literally won his whole team championships with out him who would’ve gaurded shaq he’s the only one that shaq said he could never beat
Kenny is definitely just stirring up Chuck and Shaq to clash. Coz he knows that Shaq is not in Chuck's list. Look how Kenny tried to pull back and reason that his number 5 is either Hakeem or Shaq when Chuck said why is Hakeem not part of Kenny's top 5.
So just because he played with him he has to pick him ?
yea that was messed up, I have never seen a better C than Hakeem he ate Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, Alonzo and every other center from the 90s ALIVE!
Kenny talking utter bs in the first 2 mins 😂
Exactly who's never heard of king 👑 James
@@meshackndiritu4253 huh
@@meshackndiritu4253 🤡
Thank you for saying it.
@@sujalgautam9761 ?
"Shaq you right there at 10, 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19, 20."- Chuck
And he’s right.
@@Thee-bob are you high?
@@Thee-bob no
@@lukanovak1492 I think ur high pal....hakim was better than Shaq!!
@@tillberzel4830 ur crazy...put anyone beside Jordan on the LAL with Shaq in his prime and they'd be the 2nd best player
Soooo happy to see these guys back at it cracking jokes & debating!
Honestly the whole video made me smile😂😂
Ahh the sheep so easily distracted 😂
FAXX!!!!
@@jasonsandhu3760 Zip it.
Ikr!!!
Shaq said jump in that lake and hold ya breath for 30 mins. 😁😂🤣😆
Putting Shaq in the top 5 has eroded Kenny’s credibility to me. Come on dude!
💀
@@Patton001 prime Shaq is top 5
HalleluaDanceTroupe Did you watch Shaq in his prime? I might not put him top 5 personally but I can’t really fault anyone who would.
Shaq nearly averaged 40-20 in one of the finals he played. I'm okay with top 5
am i trippin or did chuck just ask why kenny didnt pick hakeem and his response was litteraly "well after shaq i have bird magic and then lebron."
Bruh it’s so crazy to know “I was the most dominant person to EVER do something” it must be an unreal feeling.
Nope wilt is far better
-dominant
@@DotaRecap no he's not.. he's top 5
@@DotaRecap Wilt, Bill, Kareem, and Hakeem in no particular order are all better than Shaq. And Shaq is still a top 10 or 15 player of all time.
I dont think Chuck's perception is right ruclips.net/video/7UbsZIM2bEI/видео.html
Charles Barkley picks Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson is in my top ten best player ever.
Lol. That draft was hilarious
@@SuperSonic_868 Man they absolutely need to repeat It and in this way more successive and updated scenario, it would look great.
With all the guys and crew of back in the day of course.
Gerry Bueno Not bad, also definitely the right pick if you have AI or Kobe, in the early 2000s and especially before.
He's #6 on my list.
Fact: if Shaq had made 70% of his FT’s, he would have scored almost 2,000 more career points.
If Shaq was making 70% of his free throws he wouldn't get hacked as much.
And also if he not play with cavs & boston
@@Vipa567 Same could have been said about Wilt - who got hacked so much the NBA CHANGED THE RULES to limit it.
If he had, he'd be in the top 3.
@@Vipa567 so that means he would shoot like 65%fg if he isnt hacked
EJ’s the luckiest guy in the world dealing with these guys 😂😂
More like Kenny.
@@josemaguajardo nah ernie especially because because all three of them are nba players
@Bear Omega Ernie's lucky because without this hilarious banter and chemistry between the three of them, the show wouldn't do as well as it has. Facts.
Karl Leigh Why you hating on Ernie? I listen to him so much than any analyst! That voice of his wouldn’t be the same with someone else there.
@@juniorgonzalez3900 Not hating on Ernie at all, Junior. Ernie's the Man. Just responding to someone who stated that Shaq, Charles, and Kenny were lucky because Ernie "allowed " them to be on the show.
“But Chuck is not in my top 4 because he doesn’t have 4 rings like me.” - Shaq
@Lew Sifer except that he is
zzz how many times can Shaq say that
@Raas Putin that made me lol
@@SuperRobertoClemente Until Charles gets a ring.
Roberto Clemente that’s all he needs to say 🤷🏽♂️😂
The way Chuck's yelling he doesn't need a microphone, they could probably hear him anyway.
every time they do these lists and Shaq gets Mr Sensitive it just brings me back to when Kobe said that if Shaq had his work ethic he would be the greatest of all time.
agree. Chuck's list is right on ... however, Oscar Robertson better than Magic or Bird ? Shaq is top 15 or 20, nothing wrong with that and Shaq himself said was never 100% invested in fixing his free throw shooting or staying in shape,
@@alfredooliva5175 he doesn’t have shaq,Larry, magic and Tim Duncan in his top 10 his list is garbage 😂😂
@@alfredooliva5175 ur delusional his list is horrib
Shaq's cheating forsenCD
Shaq low key is a narcissist.
That's crazy Hakeem isn't in Kenny's top five. Blasphemous.
Tbh I'll pick Hakeem 6 days of the week.
Too close to the situation
@@QW22312 I would pick him on Sunday if he didn't feel under the weather
The crazy thing is Kenny played with a Hakeem... they won a championship together
@@BlakeSchultz 2 right?
Honestly feel like Tim Duncan deserves credit in this discussion
He should be in most people's top 5....5 time NBA Champion, only won less than 50 games in lockout season (99), 2 x League MVP, all-nba team 15 times (1,2,3 combined) and all-defensive team (1,2 combined) 15 times.....not to mention he was the most coachable and drama-less superstar.
@@cdalgorta94 Let me find out that Timmy has won a couple of rings at the expense of a couple of your top ten players.
Cristian I don’t see how he ranks lower than 10. MJ, lebron, kareem, magic, and russell are the only ones who are clearly ahead of him. I would say bird, shaq, Kobe, and wilt are all arguably better, but no way he ranks out of the top 10
nope
He’s in my top 10
3:43 Charles: "Shaq is right there at 11, 12, or 13!" Ernie: "How's that s**t, Shaq?"
Hilarious
He said sit I’m pretty sure
Man Ernie is hood like that
@@Nikillem Nah Ernie's got the green light, can say anything he wants on TV even curse people out.
Agreed with Chuck. There are just too many great players in the history of basketball
Kenny's disrespect of Hakeem is insane
They were teammates too, crazy
@@capricebandicoot_ doesn't that mean he knows him better than most
Bruh. 5:40
Did this absolute clown Kenny even answer the Hakeem question? Where is Hakeem on Kenny's list???
@@thsu8 5:40 ......
So glad these guys are back! I've missed them so much. This convo was so hilarious!
The disrespect to Tim Duncan... just unreal, unbelievable!
jamminwithjam hakeem is better than duncan
@@Realfirenewdesire1122 everyone on the list is better than Duncan
Deflexion :3
Delusional
@Pinoy Aquatics, Hakeem has 2 nba championships not 5 and was never rookie of year and has only 1 mvp not 2.
Dude has a borderline perfect career. Kenny didn't list out his full ten though, and Chuck put a lot of weight on older players not named Bill and Wilt. Don't think he was too disrespected, but, I personally have Duncan in the 5-8 range.
Ernie is a legendary commentary host. He knows exactly how to let things flow.
Who else smiles literally the whole time watching these guys?
Olajuwon gets no respect
Duncan doesn’t get any either
Neither does Jeremy Lin
He's not top 10, but Duncan is definitely getting disrespected. These guys know basketball tho so i respect everything they have to say
Neither does jr smith 😤
@@369pendulum He is top 10, he's the best defensive C, heck... One of the best defenders of all time. Best post game of all time. And he won his rings. So, he's definitely top 10 lol.
I love Ernie Johnson Jr, Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal.
Ok
a okay
me too
K
*Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley and Shaq
I'm over here waiting for Kenny to name the guy who got him two championship rings but it never came! Love them all though.
Dudes a clown nut riding shaq cause he works with him and doesn’t wanna get roasted on live tv. He has the worst takes ever…
@@9614cp that dude accomplished far more than you in your lifetime
Chuck got African dad logic. "I'm not sayin u bad, i just put u behind other elite players like magic and bird" 😂😂😂😂
How is that African dad logic exactly ?
Makes sense to me
@@GatherYeRosebudsWhileYeMay You'd have to be African to get it
@@Blodia1990 seems like its just *a* dad thing to me
Magic and Bird are better though. Shaq is very close behind them. All three are top 10 modern players.
The way Shaq took his glasses off to hear Chuck properly.. I felt that.
When Kenny starts contradicting himself 😂😂
Here Kenny is playing the role of the guy who’s trying to be so smart he’s actually dumb...
He's also afraid to offend Shaq
He always does its annoying
Bro put 4 centers in the top 5😂like what
Actually Kenny is the most knowledgeable of the three of them. 💯
@@quismith518 Dont be fooled😂
The fear in Shaq eyes when he mentioned Hakeem 😳
😂
Shaq is the 4th Greatest NBA player ever 1 Mj 2 Beans Rip bruh 3 LeBron 4th Shaq I don't care what anyone says & Dream Kareem Bird Duncan & Magic and Wilt are my top 10. Scottie is my 11th player to then Zeke Isaiah Thomas
@@ernestboykin3rd706 LeBron is easily better than Kobe
@@ernestboykin3rd706 where's Tim Duncan?
@@ernestboykin3rd706 Timmy Duncan is better than Kobe
look at chuck man, so inspirational
Kenny's top 5 has to be the dumbest top 5 I've seen.
Shaq is the only one that definitely doesn't belong, though I would put Wilt at 8. He had a good list.
@@nathanielbrill1523 the most dominant and greatest center ever isn't a top 5 player? Tf wrong wit u
@@GHOST-nk9im Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Duncan are easily the best team for their positions. You could make a case easily for Russell and Wilt being better centres than Shaq.
@@GHOST-nk9im It’s their opinion bro
@@GHOST-nk9im Yeah, thats exactly why Russell beat Jerry West and Elgin Baylor in every single finals appearance they had against each other. Shaq also could only win with another Hall Of Famer on his team. He clearly toyed with Ben Wallace.... oh wait he lost to him. Lol. Russell lost 1 out of 12. Go figure.
Kenny knew that chuck wouldn’t have shaq, look at him smile as he asks who charles would take out xD
Did y’all see Shaq stood up too quick and showed he was in his underwear at the end 🤣
Why not, he's at home, relaxing.
KingCo Anderson I didn’t say it was a problem, I thought it was funny, he surely didn’t mean to show it on live tv lol he’s done it before but u could tell it was clearly an accident cause he thought they went off air
Cld you Mark the time
Michael McFly nobody was looking down there like thats it happened at the end when he stood up in the camera at the end of the show
Did not see that in the vid. You watch in on air?
Shaq got so happy when Chuck said he was the most dominant ever 😂
Noah Jones it’s tru as big man
How do you know?? He literally has the same face before and after Chuck said that. There's no way of telling how happy he is... 🤣
He just wanted to pls him because we all know how sensitive shaq is but the most dominant is Wilt period !!
Even shaq admit that !
Mario Nelson so Ure saying Wilt can STOP SHAQ! SHAQ MOST DOMINATE CENTER EVER PLAYED.
That's not saying much tho...lol
Kenny scared of Shaq.... He's sweating bullets....barkley is just being real
Dub
Shaq to Kenny: thank you mah brother
Shaq to Chuck: you see my 4 trophies behind me?
Kenny smith putting shaq over Hakeem is blasphemy!!! Smh...wow...like he should be banned from the city of Houston
How quickly did we forget about the dream shake...
Nah!
Gimmie Shaq over The Dream 10 times out of 10.
The Dream is great, but Shaq is a once in a lifetime dominance.
@@Mistahollywood0 Shaq is the most dominant force in NBA history. But hakeems game is just way better. His offensive game and defensive game with the footwork and point guard skills he has makes him literally unguardable.
He quickly forget who's the main man in their team that swept Shaq and gave him his 2 rings.
@@Flyin26 Absolutely. Hakeem was 10x more skilled than Shaq.
@@Mistahollywood0 crazy talk. Hakeem was insanely better on the defensive side of the ball. First in blocks, 9th in steals as a center, 2 time dpoy, 9 time defensive player of the year. And offensively its about even. Shaq is 8th in pts but hakeem is 11th. Hakeem and shaq are 14th and 15th in rebounds so thats even too.
But steals while hakeem is 9th shaq isnt even top 250. Blocks hakeem is 1st shaq is 9th. So the gap of those 2 defensive stats give hakeem a large edge.
These guys are great together. I'm glad they're coming back
We can all disagree on the order but 90% of NBA fans and historians probably have these 10 guys in their top 10.
Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Lebron, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, and Bird.
100% on point, the only exception I will ever allow into this top 10 would be Hakeem, but that's it.
I don't know about Wilt have you seen his performances in big games
Nope. Not a majority. Only around 14 people agreeing. Some say oscar others hakeem doc west etc.. a lot of great players. Putting recent guys is bias for the modern time. But thats fickle n changes with time too
Harley Inglis I'm 22 so I haven't lol, but I've read all about it and how Russell owned him, which is why I would put him towards the end of the top 10 rather than the front
Robert Garibyan that wasn’t my order of the top ten. I agree with you, Wilt is closer to ten than he is to 1. I was just listing the names.
1. Michael Jordan - 11
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 8
3. LeBron James - 8
4. Magic Johnson - 6
5. Larry Bird - 5
6. Tim Duncan - 5
7. Wilt Chamberlain - 5
8. Bill Russell - 5
9. Shaquille O'Neal - 4
10. Kobe Bryant - 3
TOP 10 based on finals and season MVP combined
Actually, Shaq's 08-09 which was 2 years before he retired, he was 3rd team all nba at 37. I don't know why he ever left Phoenix, he was rejuvenated there- played 75 games.
Shaq said in an interview that Hakeem is the best center of all-time. Interestingly, around the time when Shaq lost to Hakeem by a sweep, people organized a 1-on-1 between them. Too bad that it didn't happen.
Hakeem played in the most competitive era in his position and he dominated all of them.
Ridiculous not to have him in the top 10.
Remember that Shaq dominated in an era where all the dominant Centers where gone or past their primes.
The 90's were an expansion league and Hakeem won AFTER Jordan left. The 90's were watered down
Hakeem is a top end big man, a shade behind Shaq, Kareem, and Duncan. Don't lie though Hakeem was never the best player in a competitive league.
So tru
@@steelwall4396 u crazy hakeem was by far the best center in his era and of all-time since his era was the most center dominate era of all-time
@@steelwall4396
Jordan leaving has nothing to do with the rockets winning
I'm with yall that Olajuwon is top 10 all time. He's a top 3 defender and a top 5 offensive big. I'm just saying he got one of the most talent poor chips.
The teams he beat were pretty atrocious and is why he's the 4th greatest big man ever. If he got his chips in more competitive eras he could fight Shaq and Duncan, but he didn't
Kenny absolutely dodged the Hakeem question Barkley asked him.
Barkley list was pretty good though.
Solid
@@aidangriffiths5075 honestly the real top 10 is mj, lebron, kareem, wilt, russell, magic, bird, kobe, duncan and shaq or hakeem
No love for durant or curry
Legit
@@amezsherzad Shaq isn't top 10. How can you be top 10 all-time in your field if you didn't maximize your talent? That makes no sense. Shaq once admitted directly to Kobe Bryant's face in an interview, " Because I had you, I could just chill out in the summer." Shaq needed a Top 3 SG of all-time (Kobe/Wade) to win rings. Shaq got swept twice with 1st team All-NBA guard Penny Hardaway in 95 and 96. SWEPT. No shame in losing to Hakeem or MJ, but he couldn't get one game. Shaq got swept two more times with 19 and 20 year-old Kobe in 98 to Utah and 99 to San Antonio. Then Kobe reached his early prime in 2000 and suddenly Shaq won 3 straight rings. Do the math. Conversely, Kobe went to 3 straight FInals and won 2 without a top 75 player. Dwyane Wade carried a past his prime Shaq to a ring. Fun fact: Shaq wasn't even the 2nd leading scorer for the Heat in the 06 Finals. That was Antoine Walker. Shaq wasn't even the best center on his own team in that series. Zo outplayed him if you actually watched that series.
sir charles trolls so hard i love it
yup. I bought his book on trolling. Getting paid to troll.
"Better" is so subjective. Better depends on what that individual person values more. For me, I think Hakeem was better than Shaq because he was more skilled at the position. Others might value dominance. I think both arguments hold water.
exactly, context and being specific is everything, 1 on 1 in the post, shaq was the best
Agreed. Hakeem was a "better" player than Shaq IMO. Shaq had weaknesses, The Dream had none. Plus, he outplayed every other great center (including Shaq) of his era. Which just so happened to be the golden era of Big Men in the NBA. So that and more is why I would absolutely rate him in my Top 5 before Shaq. But to each their own.
Hakeem had more skills to begin with. And shaq was only more dominant cause he played in an era rite after all the dominant centers were gone. Only center more dominant than shaq was wilt chamberlin and that was still based on there era
@@mattb1446 I think Hakeem had more skills in the beginning, middle and end. Shaq never devolped a jump shot like Hakeem. Shaq never had the footwork. And Shaq was never as good as the dream defensively.
@@WhelmedButReady he outplayed shaq sure, but would the 95 version of hakeem of dominated the 2000 version of shaq, I don't think he would
Kenny's argument "All he needed was one person" also applies to Kobe (Shaq and Pau Gasol), Lebron, Kareem and Hakeem.
And JORDAN. Don't forget - if Jordan didn't have Scottie = MJ ringless, no goat.
YOOO 😂😂 their reaction when chuck said Shaq is right there at 11,12,13. Shaq wanted to slap chuck threw that Tv 😂
5:23 kenny's face 😂😂😂
He looks like a Desperate Housewife. 😂
These 4 humans make me laugh everytime I watch. Excellent analysis, but they are all seriously funny!!
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Well three of them are
@@sohell1992 Who are you taking off?
I think they should categorize the top 5 or 10 by positions. Not randomly. For example: Centers, Power forwards, Small forwards, Point Guards, and Shooting Guards.
Man, to be even mentioned as a possible in the all-time NBA top ten is crazy.
if hakeem, magic johnson, or anyone else deserving of a top 5 spot was on the call, Kenny would have chosen them LOL he's just a nice guy
Kenny’s a sucker
@@RandomShowerThoughts dont insult or swear at people. Pray and repent to God. Believe in the trinity - THE SON OF GOD JESUS, THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Google him Chuck
Duncan and Hakeem are always criminally underrated. I'd take both over Shaq. Personally, I have Shaq in the 10-15 range, so I'm right there with Chuck. But that's not a criticism; being top 15 means you were a remarkable player and legend.
Shaq is better than both and is top 10 all time stop it
@@jvr6809 Duncan has more titles than Shaq, more league MVPs, more All-NBA selections, and WAY more All-Defensive Team selections. There's a reason ESPN ranked Duncan (#8) ahead of Shaq (#10). But don't let facts get in the way of your losing argument.
@@jvr6809 Tim Duncan is better than Shaq. In every metric, except maybe dominance, Tim Duncan was a better player. He was a better player on both Offense and Defense. He was a better leader. He was more accomplished in both the regular season and the post season, and has more accolades overall. Shaq was a dominating player, but Tim Duncan has the hardware to back him up in everything relating to basketball.
@@jvr6809 duncan: more rings, never played with a top 25 player, more consistent, higher longevity, better defensive player. Taking duncan every time, and hakeem is one of the only players to drag his team to the finals without another star AND win a chip. 2nd year he had clyde. Hakeem went through the mvp david Robinson AND shaq for the 1st one. No way im taking shaq over hakeem!
shaq played against duncan and robinson in a playoff series and dominated them both. in his prime shaq destroyed them both, but duncan had the longevity and hence the better career. Better basketball player? hard to tell very subjective
Could you imagine what Shaq would've been if he took his career seriously.
He could have the same attitude but shoot 80% from the foul line and he would no doubt be top 2.
could’ve won 6 rings or more
Exactly!
Lol 😆
This would be my list.
1. Mike
2.-3. Kareem/Lebron
4. Magic
5. Bill Russell
6. Bird
7. Timmy
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem.
It's not an easy list to make because there are so many great players.
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At this point it’s just a generational thing, when I get their age I’m gonna be talking about Lebron the same way
@@SooHooSamaSito unfortunaly in 10,15 years people will debate over stats and not performances and the true is that Lebron's finals record isn't gonna help him.
💯 I’ve said this about a million times
I don’t see lebron’s name being discussed for as long and as much as MJ’s after his career finishes. He’s great, but MJ’s on his own level of greatness so once lebron is gone they’ll be discussing the new guy vs MJ
G C I know, he’s top 2 lol
@@miguelmatias2549 and to me that's why LeBron has always cared so much about his stats. Well like almost all Nba players, but to me, him and KD are the two that are more interested in stats than all the rest. And that's a thing that have always made me holding something from those two, even if it was just a little, behind some guys like Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Mj, Magic and Kareem (those who won more than the two guys above, more importantly)
My Top 10 All Time List
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Magic Johnson
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Larry Bird
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Wilt Chamberlain
Nice list
I don’t understand dudes that don’t know history like what Kenny said. How da fuq Kobe better than Shaq when Shaq was the better player on Kobe’s team for 3 championships?
ljvue it’s not like Kobe averaged 30 ppg n stuff like that in those playoff runs w Shaq or anything
Shadow Flame 30 6 and 6 next to shaq’s 32 and 12..... not much carrying there🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ also an all star in his second season coming off the bench, also he was 23 years old when he got 3 rings! He was a puppy for god’s sake you idiots hahahahaha.... then has a horrible team with kwame, smush, walton, brian cook..... then finally has a decent team and proved everyone wrong winning twice repeating.... his final years he played 6 games 34 games and then 54 games..... he didnt have the same opportunities as other legends at the start of his career and suffered un-playable injuries his whole career and still look at all the total numbers, accolades and records he broke.... also nobody talks about his defense.... 12 defensive all nba teams... thats second all time.... 9 times the first team.... thats tied for most all time with jordan..... and everybody’s favorite boy lebron only got 5 of those....... kobe also got every laker record except for rebounds and assists.... he averaged for career 25 5 5..... not much of a ball hog for his primary role being scorer...... he is the player which worked the most to study and try to make his game as perfect as possible.... even tho im not gonna put him over mj or kareem, he is my goat
Shadow Flame he was also scoring 40 point games in conference finals and the finals..... we seeing 23 year olds today struggling to average 20 a game that was cookies for kobe
I love watching all these big kids; put a smile on face every time!
I love how everybody's list is always so different. Eras make it so hard, but so fun and debatable
This 4 dudes are the BEST. You just get entertained to the max watching them 4 everytime they are on air.
Even when the bois are far from each other, they still give the funniest arguments for our content 😂
Fun fact: BOTH Olajuwon and Shaq have less regular season RPG than Chuck! Olajuwon has fewer regular season PPG than Chuck! Digest that! Those who did not see Barkley play missed a lot. And as far as Olajuwon's and Shaq's stats - Wilt is laughing up there. Their rebounding was a joke. Like Kareem's.
Olajuwon is Top 10 rebounder of all time....and would have embarrassed Wilt like he did his buddy Kareem.
Regular season? Lmao....u must be a Mike Trout fan. Digest that.
It’s perfect this is the crew we need all the time 😭😂
i missed these guys! Stays safe we really need yall
5:00 I don’t think Chuck knows how many spots are on the Mount Rushmore 😂
Facts😂😂
He means all of those guys are worthy of that Mount Rushmore title.
Chucks facial expression during Kennys argument pretty much explains what he thinks about that whole train of thought by Kenny
Kenny The Instigator Smith
My man said Shaq is in the 11 12 13!!!! 😂😂😂 I love it!!! Keep it comin guys
Chuck was profusely sweating by the end of this 😂
I feel like Shaq is cramped in that office😂
Lost respect for Kenny. Magic didn't cry about the pistons and get swept by bird. He beat them for rings.. greatest PG ever and not top 5 🤣🤣🤣
You lost respect for Kenny’s for his opinions ??
@@deesee2051 yes.. yes I did lol
He had Magic at 6
Kinda weird that you respected his opinion in the first place. For a guy who played with an all time great Center in Hakeem, Kenny forgets about him on a constant basis
Magic is top 5 period the same as Wilt is ...every sucker puts MJ first but why ?
Only because he never lost a final and is 6-0 ... i have seen players that where as good as MJ ...Hakeem was Amazing , Duncan , Magic , Bird , Kobe ...but still they pick MJ 🤦♂️
They should stop this ...the top tier would be more accurate because u can’t compare a center with a guard, or compare eras
These lists from these guys is so disappointing 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. How you have Magic, Bird, Bron, Kobe, Hakeem and Timmy so low?
Hakeem should be listed higher than Shaq
Because they've played against them and they old.
The disrespect Tim Duncan gets is ridiculous. No one even mentioned him and he's a lock for a top 10 spot. The man is 1 greatest shot in NBA playoffs away from being 6-0 just like MJ, best power forward ever, leader of a dynasty and consistent but because he's not flashy and played for the "broccoli" Spurs gets penalized in these list discussions.
Chuck is brutally honest with his opinion. You gotta love him for that.
Why isn’t Tim Duncan on the top 10 in Charles Barkley’s list ?
Eric Garcia There was another video I watched where he put Duncan in his top 10.
Can't name 10 players with a better resume than Tim Duncan and dominated both ends in their primes. Duncan was a great defender for all of his career. He's top 5-7.
He top 20-25
he is 8th for me
Resumes come with team....Spurs TANKED to get him. Put Olajuwon in that situation...imagine his resume.
Duncan wasn’t prolific at anything everybody else in the top 10 is
@@mynoseisdirty1250 think you need to watch some videos. Duncan was prolific at scoring, rebounding, blocks, passing, he was great at everything
I enjoy this oppinated debate from actual good/great NBA players more than these debate shows
No player who said he uses the regular season to get in shape for the playoffs deserves to be on a Top 10 List. Shaq said that. Shaq did that.
This is why it’s so hard to create a list of the greatest players in the nba since there are so many different great players who affected the game differently, played differently, excelled in different parts, number of accolades, and other circumstances, the only thing that I see is common in these lists is that MJ is number one most of the time.
Kareem is better than Jordan. Kareem won 3 titles in high school, 3 titles in college and then 6 titles in the NBA along with countless records. Kareem won wherever he was his entire career. Jordan was more flashy but Kareem was way more accomplished.
@@dlakerguy I can agree that overall basketball career wise he is probably the best ever. He won on every single level and was unstoppable
@@dlakerguy He wasn’t the best player when he won with Magic, MJ was the best player on all 6 title runs
@@bencarlson4300 Kareem was the best player multiple times when he won in the 80s. And Magic was also one of the best all time players. Pippen never would have been the best with the Bulls. He wasn’t that type of an offensive player. But he sure was the best perimeter defender they had. Made Jordans life a lot easier. And the Bulls were stacked with other talent too. Either way, Kareem had a much more decorated career at all levels of the game.
@@dlakerguy Factoring in that Jordan was 6’6” and played a lot less total basketball, Jordan, to me, looks more accomplished. If you play longer, you do more, same reason LeBron is going to pass Kareem in points soon.
I noticed Kenny never addressed Hakeem's spot. He said interchangeable with Shaq so that means he should be 6th if Shaq is 5th. But he said 6 and 7 are Magic and Bird. He was caught off guard when even Shaq said he won't pick himself before Hakeem. Kenny's kissing A as always.
I’m glad they put some respect on Hakeem’s name. The most complete center ever
Kenny lowkey just putting Shaq in his top 5 so Chuck will disrespect him 😂
Kenny is an instigator 😂
So they have something to argue about. This show would be boring if they all agreed with each other. Ratings.
Kenny put 4 centers🤦♂️
Well yeah, centers have more effect on the game than the other positions because of their size and strength.
@@morpher728 Chris Paul would like a word with you
@@theshape3222 chris Paul isn't as good as wilt chamberlain or russel. Also point guards are the second most game affecting position.
@@morpher728 Exactly. And I’d argue that guards usually have more skill. They have to, otherwise there are millions of 6ft-6ft3 guards waiting to take their place
@@morpher728 can’t say there are many 7 footers out there
The delayed reactions make this so funny 😂
Lol
He said whatever u smoking down there 😂😂😂💀
When I was a kid I wanted to be Dr. J and Larry Bird. As a 45 year old man, I want to be Ernie. I would love his job. These guys lift spirits and it will be a very sad day if these guys ever step down.
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