There’s a whole lot more to this question of the 6.4 versus the Cummins. The maintenance between the two is not even comparable, it’s a lot more than just a naturally aspirated gas engine versus a turbo charged diesel engine. With a diesel you’re going to be dealing with fuel filters, DEF, A whole lot more oil, and when something does need to be fixed, you’re looking at big money. In terms of fuel mileage, there’s also the price of fuel to consider. Considering a $10,000 engine option, there’s a lot to consider there.
@@wesleydean4228 yeah the cummins will hardly lose any value especially in this market. i think if you plan on keeping it for a long long time, get the cummins, regardless of maintenance costs. also i live in texas and diesel and unleaded gas cost around the same. maybe a $0.10 difference. I’d probably delete the emissions crap. nobody cares about that stuff here
@@frogger2011ify depends on how often you tow then i guess. Looking at the pricing on these in my area im shocked to see them costing the same if not less than a 1500
@@Danstheman1357 well asside from the fact that dodges build quality is shot and the electronics are wonky and the body bushings pop when your turn hard.. the steering wheel keeps slipping on the the draglink.....oh so many many many issues with my 2020 2500cummins. Besides all of that it tows good and when it's not being a Regen nightmare and when it actually cleans out it runs alot more efficient then my 2019 1500 long horn ever did
@@frogger2011ify I'd agree with that. The Cummins will literally keep the same fuel mileage towing as well as empty. The hemi will have a huge drop on fuel economy while towing. It all depends on how much and how often you tow. As the Cummins will have the higher initial and maintenance cost, but will give you the best performance towing.
Considering the maintenance cost plus an added 9000 to almost 13,000 depending on which Cummins you get sticking with a gas engine and getting a comparable trailer and living more within your means is the way to go. You don't need a diesel to pull a pop-up trailer.
I also have 6.4 with 4.10's and 35's I get 5-7 with gooseneck and highway speeds, and solid 7 going 55-60 pulling a 42 ft 5th wheel. I love the truck, it has treated me very well.
6.4 with the 8 speed and 4.10 axles, is awesome. Towed 16k fifth wheel all over the country. No problem. Empty, its a race car 0-60. Not much with 32 lugs can hang with it. Looking forward to my next one with the 50 gallon tank. All gas stations have gas. Very few have a diesel mechanic on standby.
No. That milage isn't while towing. That is almost empty running around. The 41 ft long, 13.5 ft tall 16k fifth wheel (parachute) brings it down to 6.5 -7 mpg. 8-9 with normal trailers.
I have a 2016 Ram 2500 4x4 with the 6.4. It tows 8k lbs for 50-100 miles 180 days a year without any issues in hill country, plenty of power. Gets around 13 MPG towing 8k lbs at 70 MPH. It does ride like hell with the factory tires with no load but put a good pair of shoes on it and it helps a lot.
I have the exact truck as you, just clocked 75k...just wondering though, mine has developed strange shift issues from 4th down to 3rd...kinda concerned, any similar issues with yours?
I bought this exact truck also in white just a few weeks ago. $42k. The payload/towing upgrade from the 5.7 I traded is amazing. Save the 20+ grand and get this model. Most of what the Big Horn or Limited options can be added for a fraction of the cost.
I see other people mentioned it but I just got my 2021 2500 hemi with 4.10 and I feel a huge difference between the hemi with the 4.10 vs the 3.73. Hemis with 4.10 accelerate great and it's rated just under 17,000 lbs max towing. I get why people like the diesels but people who tow infrequently may be able to get by happily with the hemi.
I think fuel economy is another big part and why a lot of people like the cummins. If I keep my foot out of it, I average right at 18.9 mpg with my 2014 6.7. I also tow 14,000 pounds a few times a month and it's a dream to tow with compared to my last truck, a 2001 Chevrolet 2500hd crew cab with the 8.1 gas and Allison 5 speed. My only real complaint about my Ram is the transmission, it feels like garbage compared to that Allison 1000.
@@Nothingtoya agreed! I think TFL got like 3mpg with the Ram 2500 Hemi 3.73 going uphill on the ike gauntlet. There's definitely benefits to people using diesel instead especially with mountains!
I love my 2020 2500 tradesman with a level 2 equipment group. If you get a chance, do a comparison with the base tradesman and the level 2. You get alot more options.
@@HardHeadMilitary Great once you change them out for LED bulbs. Changed out the halogens for the GTR CSP minis and now no problem. Standard halogens are crap. I have a 2020 Tradesman, level 2 with the 8.4 and 4.10 gears. Also changed out the halogen fog lights for switchback LED's. Nice to have a choice between white and amber on the fogs.
The 6.4l was built very heavy for work. It's ment to rev slower and tuned for low end torque. People that are getting horrible gas mileage out of it when towing a big load need to use less throttle. The torque is down low and is enough to to what you want, it's not a race when you're towing 15k lbs. Guys that look them on a consistent basis are getting 250k+ mil8 out of them. This 8sp and the completely forged motor are very solid. Edit- if you have 4.10 gears it will eat a little more gas.
If you were towing 15k with this truck, you wouldn't be going anywhere no matter how much gas you gave it. This truck is a total pig on anything over 9k
Unless you are doing some heavy towing consistently gasser for sure. If your emissions control system triggers a fault on these new diesels your dead in the water and def fluid is dumbest thing ever invented.
You might as well buy one of these new at invoice with no rebates, because the 19-20s appear to be selling for within 5k of the new ones. Why would anyone buy used right now?
great video, thank you. I just took a job and my boss is getting me this config new but 8 ft bed and nice barn door cap, for electrical testing. I cant wait to get it. Its a company truck they allow personal usage. !!.
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The TPMS can be changed with aftermarket programming. As for tires wearing funky is quit the opposite. If you have full inflation like the door sticker unloaded. You’ll have a rough ride along with wearing in the middle of the tire. Drop down unloaded and air up if towing heavier.
Did it have the 3.73 or 4.10 rear end? I have the big hemi in my 2020 2500 MegaCab with 4.10 limited slip. Tows my 30' 9k TT with no problems, flats or grades. If your towing 12k or under a gasser is a good alternative. Save about 10k on price, lower maintenance costs, and NO DEF!
Add a pedal commander bud. You'll feel a shit ton better about it. I have a 2020 and it feels like a slug without it. With it though... Just add it and tell me I'm wrong.
@@qwizziethakid I have a pedal commander. The problem i have with the 3:73 is when i am towing my travel trailer. Btw I love the pedal commander, best bang for the buck. I originally purchased it for my '17 Rebel and lucky enough it worked for my 2019 2500
I have this truck. 2020. I love it and it pulls my 10k lb food trailer like nothing. I just made it look more aggressive with some duramaxs and a thuren/carli level kit from CJC. I also deleted the muffler to make it sound awesome. Best thing I did was add a pedal commander to make it super snappy. It's a work truck that is super fun to drive and can still have fun in.
@@mr.snowfoam1542 now that is a different topic all together lolol About 12- 13 city and 16-17 hwy. She is a thirsty lil bitch. But man she is awesome.
@@mikeg4317 I mean yea the truck is made to be level under load from factory. Lifting the front end aftermarket will always cause squat if you don't do airbags. That being said, I've never had the rig cause my truck to bottom out and it's over 10k lbs. The aftermarket level kit from carli replaces the front coils but keeps the factory rear coils so it shouldn't affect your towing capabilities.
I had this truck failed really bad. Have 10k travel trailer and motor cycle in the bed. Was maxed and sagging really bad engine with 8 speed worked to hard got 250 miles on a tanks of premium gas. Traded it for 3500 Ram diesel so much better handles and drives so much better.
We just got one it’s the same the only difference is we’re you control like the stop go and revers right next to it has bottons it doesn’t have that like stick thing
Couple things , you said it lags in acceleration compared to the diesel . On what planet ? My 6.4 smokes my cummins in acceleration . Yes the Cummins tows more but cannot beat the gasser in HP . Also the ride your talking about is the tires are over inflated .
I have a 2019 Bighorn and use mine all the time. With the front window down there's a lot of buffering ( guess thats what you call it ) going on. Back window cuts all that out.
Looking at this truck for about a week now, 2021 level 2 package Tradesman with 410 rear end, just wonder what the 5th wheel towing capacity is, I’ve got the mother in laws trailer to pull, empty it weights 14k it’s a 2020 Grand Design Sulitude..will be towing about 3-4 times a year on pretty flat roads from San Antonio, TX to Rockport TX
I have a similar truck, just a 2019 Classic. You need to quit referring to it in the tone you use, “it’s a Tradesman.” It’s a great truck for the money. You keep making it seem like it’s for 2nd or 3rd class citizens. Most can’t afford 80k for a truck, when in reality you get a lot for your money.
You forgot to mention that most people get the gasser over diesel because they don’t want to pay $10k extra just for an engine. But, I completely agree with you.
I bought a 2018 Tradesman 1500 for that very reason. $28k vs $40k. The Tradesman line put me in a new truck without bending me over every month. That's why I'm looking at the Tradesman 2500 now for an upgrade. I dont need all the fluff, I just need a decent truck at an affordable price. I'm currently playing around with the Build A Ram website and looking at $42k 2wd or $45k 4wd. Its cheaper than the 1500's I'm seeing on the lots. I've been very pleased with amenities provided in the Tradesman line. It gives me everything I need and nothing I dont need. (Except XM radio, all I need is bluetooth)
Assembled in Juarez where labor is what $2k per truck if that ,add $10-15k for the Chinese parts, drag it across the border and mark it up $25k, ca ching!
Beware of the hydraulic lifter noise and straight 40 weight engine oil. Lifter noise at 900 1,900 and 2,700 miles, I recorded lifter noise took the truck to the dealer. Dealer had my truck for 1 week could duplicate any problems. I went on Utube and found out that Chrysler has problems with hydraulic lifters. Very disappointed and sold the truck. Buy the Cummins but not 2019 or 2020 due to the shity CP4 fuel pump due the low sulfur diesel fuel the fuel pump can grenade and take out the all the fuel injectors, pump and fuel lines.I have 2019 Cummins 3500 and found out about the fuel pump,I need to run hot shots lx4 lubricant everytime I fill up. 2018 has CP3 fuel pump no problems, now 2021 Ram/Cummins went back to the CP3 fuel pump. Good luck.
Hey bud I'm not trying to be rude or nothing but that's not a 2020 version is actually a 2019 virgin and you should get the Line-X in your bed of the truck
Bingo. Wait until it fails and you have to follow the procedure for manually or/mechanically, putting it gear. Silly novelty. I'd like to think im not an old fart who's not open to new things, but those new things have to make sense! I'm not a fan of push button start, either...
@@bababooey7576 Like I said to him, the column shifter comes standard on all models. You would know that, but you'd rather complain about something that doesn't affect you.
@@gasolinediesel972 Lovely personality. Rams cause great issues for us at work and, atleast the models we have, have been the most awful vehicles out of the big three.. Even the regular column shifters have failed on us, even after ram had an update/fix for them. So, while I just put my foot in my mouth with the column shifter failure, after knocking the dial one, it's just another disappointment from this company. One truck pops out of gear regularly. Two have had issues with fuelling, where you can only trickle fuel in to fill the tank, or the pump shuts off. Atleast with The older Dodges/Rams we had, they needed a new front end parts every second oil change. HVAC mode door gears stripped, so improper operation of the HVAC. I could go on but, then again they don't affect me. Ford and GM are by no means perfect, but the Rams disappoint the most, from our experience at work...
Ok so I’ve been driving it for a month and I hate it. Not the power house you would think. I haul 17000 lbs on a daily and it just isn’t there. Cylinder deactivation is a joke, can’t turn the radio down in reverse, can’t drive when door is open.the 8 speed is just always shifting, seams to hurt it when hauling. Under the hood it sounds loose already with only 23000 miles. Dash is cheap doors are cheap and I hate the seats. And the shifter knob I keep confusing for the ac knob.I would go for the cummins
Ok I have a 3 horse trailer pull on weekends , comparing to a 2500 gmc ?!, My 011 gm electrical problems ,BCM ,rides horrible,8 mpg in tow,is a ram a good choices
Just not a fan of ram... maybe these models are better, but any ram I've driven lately is just not fun to drive. The steering wheel is weird, the dial gear shift isn't appealing. The HVAC system isn't very comfortable...the biggest issue, atleast at work, the trucks break down a lot! Ignition issues-- several trucks, and multiple times with each truck. Column shifters failing--Even Ram's upgrade or modified part, failed. Transmissions popping out of gear while driving...fuel neck/fuel filling issues where it'll take a few liters, then it acts like it's full and it's only at a quarter. You have to trickle the next 50 plus liters in....multiple trucks....To each their own, I suppose. The Cummins engine is the only appealing thing, and it's not even Ram. Not trying to hate, these are just my feelings and experiences
I really like this … I would like the diesel but that def system shit need to go . It wouldn’t be so bad if the def level quality sensor design wasn’t so shitty .. other than that, I want this truck
The 6.7 Cummins has the better resale value. You WILL get more of your money back from it versus the 6.4 HEMI. And you’re going to get way more miles out of the 6.7 The resale value alone is worth buying. Buying something and having it instantly depreciate tremendously is something you will have to consider when getting the 6.4. You’re spending more money with the Cummins but you’re losing more money with the HEMI.
Dodge doesn't even have cummins techs at the dealership..and all the parts on backorder..im soo glad I got the hemi. Many of the cummins are at the dealership with unknown repair date..😆
I am one of 3 diesel techs at my dealer. The Cummins itself has very very few failures. There is some after treatment issues but that’s across the board with diesels now. The 6.4 hemi is a gas guzzler and is gutless in comparison.
There’s a whole lot more to this question of the 6.4 versus the Cummins. The maintenance between the two is not even comparable, it’s a lot more than just a naturally aspirated gas engine versus a turbo charged diesel engine. With a diesel you’re going to be dealing with fuel filters, DEF, A whole lot more oil, and when something does need to be fixed, you’re looking at big money. In terms of fuel mileage, there’s also the price of fuel to consider. Considering a $10,000 engine option, there’s a lot to consider there.
+1 $10,000 will buy a lot of gas!
Resale value will recoup all of this money.
@@wesleydean4228 yeah the cummins will hardly lose any value especially in this market. i think if you plan on keeping it for a long long time, get the cummins, regardless of maintenance costs. also i live in texas and diesel and unleaded gas cost around the same. maybe a $0.10 difference. I’d probably delete the emissions crap. nobody cares about that stuff here
@@skully720 - that 68RFE though!!
For the money difference this seems like a great choice. Diesel is great but so much more and what I am pulling the Hemi will get er done.
Hemi will pull just as much really. The issue is the range while towing is terrible the moment you hit steep climbs the Cummins shines
@@frogger2011ify depends on how often you tow then i guess. Looking at the pricing on these in my area im shocked to see them costing the same if not less than a 1500
@@Danstheman1357 well asside from the fact that dodges build quality is shot and the electronics are wonky and the body bushings pop when your turn hard.. the steering wheel keeps slipping on the the draglink.....oh so many many many issues with my 2020 2500cummins. Besides all of that it tows good and when it's not being a Regen nightmare and when it actually cleans out it runs alot more efficient then my 2019 1500 long horn ever did
@@frogger2011ify Yea true. love dodges but same issues with my 2010 ram 1500.
@@frogger2011ify I'd agree with that. The Cummins will literally keep the same fuel mileage towing as well as empty. The hemi will have a huge drop on fuel economy while towing.
It all depends on how much and how often you tow. As the Cummins will have the higher initial and maintenance cost, but will give you the best performance towing.
Considering the maintenance cost plus an added 9000 to almost 13,000 depending on which Cummins you get sticking with a gas engine and getting a comparable trailer and living more within your means is the way to go. You don't need a diesel to pull a pop-up trailer.
People aren’t buying this because there daily driving it
@@michaellewis4632I daily my truck. I’m a rancher. Gas is fine most of the time.
6.4 is a great motor I have one in a 3500 and tows15000lbs consistently with no problems great truck
I know this is a month old but was curious what your fuel mileage is towing that much
@@bricegreen9616 probably between 6 and 8
I also have 6.4 with 4.10's and 35's I get 5-7 with gooseneck and highway speeds, and solid 7 going 55-60 pulling a 42 ft 5th wheel.
I love the truck, it has treated me very well.
5 lol I tossed my cookies
6.4 with the 8 speed and 4.10 axles, is awesome. Towed 16k fifth wheel all over the country. No problem. Empty, its a race car 0-60. Not much with 32 lugs can hang with it. Looking forward to my next one with the 50 gallon tank. All gas stations have gas. Very few have a diesel mechanic on standby.
I wish I got a configuration with the 50 gal tank but I love my Hemi 2500 with the 4.10. It's a beast!
What kind of mpg with the 4.10?
11-12 city 14 - 15 highway
@@dh-kb3nb that mpg is after towing the max 16k? Damn!
No. That milage isn't while towing. That is almost empty running around. The 41 ft long, 13.5 ft tall 16k fifth wheel (parachute) brings it down to 6.5 -7 mpg. 8-9 with normal trailers.
Need to put 8.4 screen in as standard. Hate that small screen, love the truck
Its a trade off for the engine
I have a 2016 Ram 2500 4x4 with the 6.4. It tows 8k lbs for 50-100 miles 180 days a year without any issues in hill country, plenty of power. Gets around 13 MPG towing 8k lbs at 70 MPH. It does ride like hell with the factory tires with no load but put a good pair of shoes on it and it helps a lot.
I have the exact truck as you, just clocked 75k...just wondering though, mine has developed strange shift issues from 4th down to 3rd...kinda concerned, any similar issues with yours?
Always like the looks of the Ram trucks, having the 4wd selection on the floor is nice too. I would take this model just as it is. 😀
Tradesman or die sick over priced loaded trucks
Maybe you can delete ac,delete pwr windows crank em
Agree
I bought this exact truck also in white just a few weeks ago. $42k. The payload/towing upgrade from the 5.7 I traded is amazing. Save the 20+ grand and get this model. Most of what the Big Horn or Limited options can be added for a fraction of the cost.
$42k? Where?
It’s between the Ram and Ford 3/4 ton gas. MPG’s would probably be the deciding factor.
I see other people mentioned it but I just got my 2021 2500 hemi with 4.10 and I feel a huge difference between the hemi with the 4.10 vs the 3.73. Hemis with 4.10 accelerate great and it's rated just under 17,000 lbs max towing. I get why people like the diesels but people who tow infrequently may be able to get by happily with the hemi.
I think fuel economy is another big part and why a lot of people like the cummins. If I keep my foot out of it, I average right at 18.9 mpg with my 2014 6.7. I also tow 14,000 pounds a few times a month and it's a dream to tow with compared to my last truck, a 2001 Chevrolet 2500hd crew cab with the 8.1 gas and Allison 5 speed. My only real complaint about my Ram is the transmission, it feels like garbage compared to that Allison 1000.
@@Nothingtoya agreed! I think TFL got like 3mpg with the Ram 2500 Hemi 3.73 going uphill on the ike gauntlet. There's definitely benefits to people using diesel instead especially with mountains!
My hemi around here on hilly back roads is like 14mpg, driving like grandpa though, interstate gets close to 20
The screen gets done what it’s supposed to. I have a 2019 2500 and have loved it from day one.
Is it comfortable?
I got the small screen too, all those big screens are a "want", don't need them, it's a truck not a escalade.
I love my 2020 2500 tradesman with a level 2 equipment group. If you get a chance, do a comparison with the base tradesman and the level 2. You get alot more options.
The level 2 is what im getting next month
My rebel has the better headlights. How are the headlights at night
@@HardHeadMilitary Great once you change them out for LED bulbs. Changed out the halogens for the GTR CSP minis and now no problem. Standard halogens are crap. I have a 2020 Tradesman, level 2 with the 8.4 and 4.10 gears. Also changed out the halogen fog lights for switchback LED's. Nice to have a choice between white and amber on the fogs.
@@mikeg4317 thank you for the tip bro.
How's it holding up?
I have the 2022 Laramie version of this truck with 3.73 gears and I do not intend to tow with it. The 6.4 Hemi does everything I need.
The 6.4l was built very heavy for work. It's ment to rev slower and tuned for low end torque. People that are getting horrible gas mileage out of it when towing a big load need to use less throttle. The torque is down low and is enough to to what you want, it's not a race when you're towing 15k lbs. Guys that look them on a consistent basis are getting 250k+ mil8 out of them. This 8sp and the completely forged motor are very solid. Edit- if you have 4.10 gears it will eat a little more gas.
If you were towing 15k with this truck, you wouldn't be going anywhere no matter how much gas you gave it. This truck is a total pig on anything over 9k
Have a 18 Laramie Cummins love it but our plow truck has a 6.4 hemi it is more convenient to start and go.
I work at a large truck dealer and most techs have gas vehicles do to what they know about the emissions crap on these new trucks.
Delete lol
@@Nothingtoya Let's face it modern diesel is not built to last. the 12 value or 7.3 P/S days are gone even if you delete.
Unless you are doing some heavy towing consistently gasser for sure. If your emissions control system triggers a fault on these new diesels your dead in the water and def fluid is dumbest thing ever invented.
You have no idea how right you are, my Isuzu is fucked
You might as well buy one of these new at invoice with no rebates, because the 19-20s appear to be selling for within 5k of the new ones. Why would anyone buy used right now?
I have a 2018 6.4 hemi and love it. I pull a 37 foot fifth wheel any where I want.
great video, thank you. I just took a job and my boss is getting me this config new but 8 ft bed and nice barn door cap, for electrical testing. I cant wait to get it. Its a company truck they allow personal usage. !!.
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with the front tires at 80 psi no doubt its gonna ride rough because they are way over inflated
Lower the air pressure on the tires and ride will smooth out.
James Miller except the stupid TPM light comes on immediately.
The TPMS can be changed with aftermarket programming. As for tires wearing funky is quit the opposite. If you have full inflation like the door sticker unloaded. You’ll have a rough ride along with wearing in the middle of the tire. Drop down unloaded and air up if towing heavier.
They offer a manual transfer case selector but don’t offer a column shift on the hemi. Sweet truck though
Did it have the 3.73 or 4.10 rear end? I have the big hemi in my 2020 2500 MegaCab with 4.10 limited slip. Tows my 30' 9k TT with no problems, flats or grades. If your towing 12k or under a gasser is a good alternative. Save about 10k on price, lower maintenance costs, and NO DEF!
What kind of mpg do you get towing/non-towing?
@@mr.snowfoam1542 12.5 mpg not towing about 10.5 towing, less in the mountains. you can do better if you baby it but I have heavy foot.
@@johnnicpon5783 yea you got an anvil for a foot talking 13mpg..😆 I would go slower but the streets would shoot me in the face.
Take it from experience with a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4l. Get the 4:10 gears instead of the 3:73
Add a pedal commander bud. You'll feel a shit ton better about it. I have a 2020 and it feels like a slug without it. With it though... Just add it and tell me I'm wrong.
@@qwizziethakid I have a pedal commander. The problem i have with the 3:73 is when i am towing my travel trailer. Btw I love the pedal commander, best bang for the buck. I originally purchased it for my '17 Rebel and lucky enough it worked for my 2019 2500
Dodge built a very nice truck
I have this truck. 2020. I love it and it pulls my 10k lb food trailer like nothing. I just made it look more aggressive with some duramaxs and a thuren/carli level kit from CJC. I also deleted the muffler to make it sound awesome. Best thing I did was add a pedal commander to make it super snappy. It's a work truck that is super fun to drive and can still have fun in.
What king of mpg are you getting?
@@mr.snowfoam1542 now that is a different topic all together lolol
About 12- 13 city and 16-17 hwy. She is a thirsty lil bitch. But man she is awesome.
@@mr.snowfoam1542 the cool thing so far has been the milage doesn't really suffer under tow.. even at 10k it is around 11.5 mpg
Any issues with squat after the level kit? I've been thinking about the Carli, just don't know if squat will be a problem when towing. Thanks.
@@mikeg4317 I mean yea the truck is made to be level under load from factory. Lifting the front end aftermarket will always cause squat if you don't do airbags. That being said, I've never had the rig cause my truck to bottom out and it's over 10k lbs. The aftermarket level kit from carli replaces the front coils but keeps the factory rear coils so it shouldn't affect your towing capabilities.
I had this truck failed really bad. Have 10k travel trailer and motor cycle in the bed. Was maxed and sagging really bad engine with 8 speed worked to hard got 250 miles on a tanks of premium gas. Traded it for 3500 Ram diesel so much better handles and drives so much better.
WELL DNT MAXXX IT AND THINK ITS GONNA HOLDDDD. SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEEDED THE 3500 IN THE 1ST PLACE.
The f150 he passed on the transport semi truck actually cost more with steel rims black plastic no crome no 4x4 and light duty why I chose a tradesmen
Just mind the lifters, on the Hemi. Great truck, though! A beast!
Please always mention the size of the fuel tank
And fuel mileage numbers.
We just got one it’s the same the only difference is we’re you control like the stop go and revers right next to it has bottons it doesn’t have that like stick thing
Yes! I bought a 2020 and love it!
Did you Disable the MDS
Jacob, is that even possible?
@@bobby1970 yes Bobby. I have no need for a diesel.
@@jeffreywhite7657 , yeah, same here. Diesel's are just too loud and too smokey. Also, too much maintenance, and I think the DEF fluid is ridiculous.
@@bobby1970 if I was hauling heavy stuff then I'd have to have one. But the maintenance is crazy on those diesels.
The nice thing about Ram vs Ford and Chevy is that you can option out the base model if you want.
What do to mean option out? Like you can upgrade the interior?
Yes, much more than other models.@@salsal88
If I could delete the EGR, would go with diesel. Since deletes are not legal and tuners not available, prolly going with gas. Unfortunately.
Why dont you show the window sticker on every truck you review so we know the true numbers?
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Couple things , you said it lags in acceleration compared to the diesel . On what planet ? My 6.4 smokes my cummins in acceleration . Yes the Cummins tows more but cannot beat the gasser in HP . Also the ride your talking about is the tires are over inflated .
Off the line there’s more oomph I think is what he was getting at.
Plus he has the 3.73 not the 4.10.
@5:00, 15.3 mpg on a brand new truck? That's impressive!
Hemi engine weight is 600 pounds and Cummings engine is 1200 pounds..there is your different ride quality..
And add emissions on the 6.7 it reduces payload by almost 900 pounds according to published payload and towing lbs.
Ive been looking into these lately, great video
I like the old school 4wd shifter.
You gotta go with Cummins, will never get another gas truck .. but if you can’t afford it go with this one but long run diesel will last longer
at beginning of the video, the air pressure for the tires are all out of whack, should be at 70 psi if not towing, not at 84 like the front tire was
Thinking about a 2500
Curious as to how many people actually use the sliding back glass. I’ve had 4 trucks with it (just part of packages) and never used it in any of them.
Same here
I have a 2019 Bighorn and use mine all the time. With the front window down there's a lot of buffering ( guess thats what you call it ) going on. Back window cuts all that out.
You must not have kids 😎
@@michaelwright278 That;s exactly how and why I use mine.
@@michaelwright278 EXACTLY!!!!
Looking at this truck for about a week now, 2021 level 2 package Tradesman with 410 rear end, just wonder what the 5th wheel towing capacity is, I’ve got the mother in laws trailer to pull, empty it weights 14k it’s a 2020 Grand Design Sulitude..will be towing about 3-4 times a year on pretty flat roads from San Antonio, TX to Rockport TX
Towing capacity is around 17k with a little over 3k in the bed on the 4.10 gears.
It will drag it like you stole it.
I have a similar truck, just a 2019 Classic. You need to quit referring to it in the tone you use, “it’s a Tradesman.” It’s a great truck for the money. You keep making it seem like it’s for 2nd or 3rd class citizens. Most can’t afford 80k for a truck, when in reality you get a lot for your money.
You forgot to mention that most people get the gasser over diesel because they don’t want to pay $10k extra just for an engine. But, I completely agree with you.
I bought a 2018 Tradesman 1500 for that very reason. $28k vs $40k. The Tradesman line put me in a new truck without bending me over every month. That's why I'm looking at the Tradesman 2500 now for an upgrade. I dont need all the fluff, I just need a decent truck at an affordable price. I'm currently playing around with the Build A Ram website and looking at $42k 2wd or $45k 4wd. Its cheaper than the 1500's I'm seeing on the lots.
I've been very pleased with amenities provided in the Tradesman line. It gives me everything I need and nothing I dont need. (Except XM radio, all I need is bluetooth)
Assembled in Juarez where labor is what $2k per truck if that ,add $10-15k for the Chinese parts, drag it across the border and mark it up $25k, ca ching!
Great review as always
Beware of the hydraulic lifter noise and straight 40 weight engine oil. Lifter noise at 900 1,900 and 2,700 miles, I recorded lifter noise took the truck to the dealer. Dealer had my truck for 1 week could duplicate any problems. I went on Utube and found out that Chrysler has problems with hydraulic lifters. Very disappointed and sold the truck. Buy the Cummins but not 2019 or 2020 due to the shity CP4 fuel pump due the low sulfur diesel fuel the fuel pump can grenade and take out the all the fuel injectors, pump and fuel lines.I have 2019 Cummins 3500 and found out about the fuel pump,I need to run hot shots lx4 lubricant everytime I fill up. 2018 has CP3 fuel pump no problems, now 2021 Ram/Cummins went back to the CP3 fuel pump. Good luck.
I quess you're a Cummins fan.
Just saying....
I feel the review would be better served
5.7 vs 6.4
Leave the Cummins out of it.
Cause cummings is more trendy to own for people who don't really need them . Lmao.
Happy new year
Hey bud I'm not trying to be rude or nothing but that's not a 2020 version is actually a 2019 virgin and you should get the Line-X in your bed of the truck
Please tell Ram to put proper gear shifts, like a truck should have. Leave them dern dials to the car
I won’t buy a ram till that done
Bingo. Wait until it fails and you have to follow the procedure for manually or/mechanically, putting it gear. Silly novelty. I'd like to think im not an old fart who's not open to new things, but those new things have to make sense! I'm not a fan of push button start, either...
You do know that the dial is an option, and that the column shifter comes standard right?
@@bababooey7576 Like I said to him, the column shifter comes standard on all models. You would know that, but you'd rather complain about something that doesn't affect you.
@@gasolinediesel972 Lovely personality. Rams cause great issues for us at work and, atleast the models we have, have been the most awful vehicles out of the big three.. Even the regular column shifters have failed on us, even after ram had an update/fix for them. So, while I just put my foot in my mouth with the column shifter failure, after knocking the dial one, it's just another disappointment from this company. One truck pops out of gear regularly. Two have had issues with fuelling, where you can only trickle fuel in to fill the tank, or the pump shuts off. Atleast with The older Dodges/Rams we had, they needed a new front end parts every second oil change. HVAC mode door gears stripped, so improper operation of the HVAC. I could go on but, then again they don't affect me. Ford and GM are by no means perfect, but the Rams disappoint the most, from our experience at work...
@@gasolinediesel972 All gas RAMs come with the dial shifter. All diesel RAMs come with a column shifter.
These engines have internal problems camshaft lifter issues.....my buddy has a 2020 already has Camshaft issues it has 40,000 miles
Ok so I’ve been driving it for a month and I hate it. Not the power house you would think. I haul 17000 lbs on a daily and it just isn’t there. Cylinder deactivation is a joke, can’t turn the radio down in reverse, can’t drive when door is open.the 8 speed is just always shifting, seams to hurt it when hauling. Under the hood it sounds loose already with only 23000 miles. Dash is cheap doors are cheap and I hate the seats. And the shifter knob I keep confusing for the ac knob.I would go for the cummins
Dude seriously if you're towning 17000 daily you should get a diesel.
If you plan on pulling equipment the 6.4 has absolutely no power I despise towing a skid steer with one
My 21 6.4 4X4 crew cab 410 gears, has no trouble at all towing my skid steer. Trailer and machine weighs in at about 11,000 lbs.
Ok I have a 3 horse trailer pull on weekends , comparing to a 2500 gmc ?!, My 011 gm electrical problems ,BCM ,rides horrible,8 mpg in tow,is a ram a good choices
I love my Cummins but that 6.4 does sound mean.
Love my 6.4 . Beast
I want the same truck as this but I don't want the gears on the bottom in the inside of the truck. Is that possible
I’d rather have a shift lever than the dial a gear.
Does this one have the chirping sound that everyone is talking about upon startup?
Weren't you 5'10" in the other videos? 🤔
Measured myself a few months ago and I’m taller than I thought😆
Is it me, or does the 2500 Tradesman have horrible air flow from the blower motor??
Just not a fan of ram... maybe these models are better, but any ram I've driven lately is just not fun to drive. The steering wheel is weird, the dial gear shift isn't appealing. The HVAC system isn't very comfortable...the biggest issue, atleast at work, the trucks break down a lot! Ignition issues-- several trucks, and multiple times with each truck. Column shifters failing--Even Ram's upgrade or modified part, failed. Transmissions popping out of gear while driving...fuel neck/fuel filling issues where it'll take a few liters, then it acts like it's full and it's only at a quarter. You have to trickle the next 50 plus liters in....multiple trucks....To each their own, I suppose. The Cummins engine is the only appealing thing, and it's not even Ram. Not trying to hate, these are just my feelings and experiences
Happy New Year!
Happy new year 🎆
I would definitely get the Hemi, and not the diesel, because of the latest recall. There's a fire risk with the diesel's intake grid heater.
Is the 50 gallon gas tank available on the Tradesman short bed crew cab 6.4 2500?
If u want power get a Cummins
I seem the shifter as a dial or in the steering column. what is the option that people have , are new models only equipped with the dial shifter?
Ram gas engines come with the dial shifter. Diesels come with the column shifter
@@lc7917 thanks you problem solved you are awesome
The ride thing is for sure, gas 2500s don’t ride very nice empty
Rides awesome
Or it’s because the tires are at 80 freaking psi
I really like this … I would like the diesel but that def system shit need to go . It wouldn’t be so bad if the def level quality sensor design wasn’t so shitty .. other than that, I want this truck
U do know those features are all options right?
The 6.7 Cummins has the better resale value. You WILL get more of your money back from it versus the 6.4 HEMI. And you’re going to get way more miles out of the 6.7 The resale value alone is worth buying. Buying something and having it instantly depreciate tremendously is something you will have to consider when getting the 6.4. You’re spending more money with the Cummins but you’re losing more money with the HEMI.
Yea, but if that 68rfe trans goes out.... Youre talking $10-12k
@@lyricalprophet100 Not all 6.7 have 68rfe’s. I’m getting an Aisin.
What’s the best daily 2500?
Did that say the tire pressure was 80 psi?!?!
Front tires are over inflated, should be 65psi max and not over 80psi
I'm confused, is this a tradesman?
Manually adjustable steering???? Tilt...telescoping???
No telescoping. That will come when they finally update to the new cab.
Diesel 1000%
I'm looking at trading in my 2020 silverado 1500 LTZ Z71 5.3 for one of these
Can you review a 2021 2500 longhorn?
Planning on it
Sweet can't wait don't forget to mention the regular plug in the back of the bed now
Are the diesels sprung heavier in the front or are they all the same spring rates?
Same
Get dome fuel in there next time !!!!
Thee seats thee door panels
Get the Hemi
The hemi is a heavenly engine...
Is it a Tradesman? 😆
Why the speedo display disappear
I think cummins for me
I want low ride one these flip switch bag
The Cummins is the better option....
Dodge doesn't even have cummins techs at the dealership..and all the parts on backorder..im soo glad I got the hemi. Many of the cummins are at the dealership with unknown repair date..😆
I am one of 3 diesel techs at my dealer. The Cummins itself has very very few failures. There is some after treatment issues but that’s across the board with diesels now. The 6.4 hemi is a gas guzzler and is gutless in comparison.
Does this come in diesel version
IT DOES!!😂
@@ihategmbecausealwaysstupid2014 thank you for the information