Why are Boomer Shooters so popular?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @MetalJesusRocks
    @MetalJesusRocks  Год назад +216

    I read that Turbo Overkill was on consoles… but it looks like only PC right now. Coming to consoles soon. Sorry about that!

    • @AaronH9111
      @AaronH9111 Год назад +9

      Yea I was looking on the eShop and was like where is Turbo Overkill ?? :)

    • @danalabomme968
      @danalabomme968 Год назад +5

      @@AaronH9111 😅 I was lookin like crazy….

    • @theweddingsinger1970
      @theweddingsinger1970 Год назад +10

      Boomer is something gen z like to call millennials (roughly 30-40yr olds who played those kind of fps games back in the day) as it winds them up for being older. That's why the term "boomer shooter" is disliked so much. Retro shooter is a better term.

    • @Spartan77
      @Spartan77 Год назад

      It's all good MJ, I am still playing Blood Dragon and trying to fix my VCR so I get back my copy of Rambo 3, that the machine ate last week.

    • @douggtg
      @douggtg Год назад +1

      I also looked for Turbo Overkill on Switch and it's not there (yet). No problem. It was announced and will come out some time in 2023 it seems.

  • @GammellNotCamel
    @GammellNotCamel Год назад +375

    2:15 After a long day when you're tired and maybe only have an hour or two before you need to go to bed, it can be really hard to pop in a modern AAA game knowing you're going to have to spend a bunch of time doing tutorials and learning a bunch of new systems and what not. Sometimes, you just need a game that hands you a big gun and says "go nuts."

    • @robinr2740
      @robinr2740 Год назад +35

      And looooong drawn out cutscenes. Looking at you, FF 16.

    • @lucasgrosso4795
      @lucasgrosso4795 Год назад +17

      Amen.

    • @raulgutierrezconstante8119
      @raulgutierrezconstante8119 Год назад +22

      Simplicity is close to perfection.

    • @Ddarke11
      @Ddarke11 Год назад +8

      If you had 15 minutes, yeah I could see that. But 1-2 hours is pretty easy to get into for most AAA games.

    • @hikerclarence7092
      @hikerclarence7092 Год назад +7

      For me the tutorials and cutscene times are replaced with wandering in circles trying to find the red key. But i get what you're saying because it's still easier to fire up and jump in

  •  Год назад +204

    The main character in Far cry Blood Dragon is voiced by Michael Biehn, aka Reese from Terminator himself. It was a big part of the marketing for the game back when it was released. :) Also, you're shown playing Project Warlock, but I don't think you mentioned it's name. It's a great boomer shooter as well.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  Год назад +47

      Ok. That makes total sense! 😂

    • @SolidSonicTH
      @SolidSonicTH Год назад +8

      Wasn't his performance based more on Dwyane Hicks from Aliens?

    • @Stormy4221-ft3sn
      @Stormy4221-ft3sn Год назад +13

      Metal Jesus is the only person who didn't know that.

    • @SolidSonicTH
      @SolidSonicTH Год назад +1

      @@Stormy4221-ft3sn To be fair I only know it because I watched an OutsideXbox video on mediocre voice acting performances.

    • @JimmyRaptis
      @JimmyRaptis Год назад +2

      @@MetalJesusRocks you couldn't google that when making the video to confirm it?

  • @Linkous12
    @Linkous12 Год назад +32

    As someone who grew up playing games like Quake I've really enjoyed this wave of old-school shooters. DUSK and Amid Evil in particular are great games.

  • @mcgibs
    @mcgibs Год назад +37

    The monotony of Boltgun is most likely due to the level design, which is of the more modern, interconnected closed arena style where there's a lot less exploration and most of the set pieces are things in the background. Also most enemies lean quite heavily on the spongier side, with some weapons not doing as much damage as you'd expect even when powered up.

    • @necrosteel5013
      @necrosteel5013 Год назад +6

      My thoughts on boltgun is that it lacks particularly special enemies that really alter the approach you take, it lacks any sense of scarcity of ammunition or health to encourage resource management and the level design really doesn't help with how simple they are.

    • @mekal177
      @mekal177 Год назад +2

      couldnt agree more boltgun for the first 2-4 levels was fantastic but you quickly realize most guns are pretty useless and youre better off just using the standard starter boltgun makes the game feel kind of underwhelming

    • @civilwarfare101
      @civilwarfare101 11 месяцев назад

      I had an issue with the possesed enemies. I just wished they would just go down already but I still enjoyed the game.

  • @Diggy22
    @Diggy22 Год назад +4

    Dude, that IS Michael Biehn aka “Kyle Reese” from The Terminator in FarCry 3: Blood Dragon. They actually got him to do voice work for the game.

  • @jqwright28
    @jqwright28 Год назад +58

    To me, these games are very close to an arcade experience and that is what makes them so good. Nothing against cinematics, complicated menus or talking to npcs, it's fine but sometimes it's just nice to fire up a game and play without any interruption.

    • @patrickbutler87
      @patrickbutler87 Год назад +3

      Exactly! It's gameplay first gaming, which is often exactly what I want

    • @civilwarfare101
      @civilwarfare101 11 месяцев назад

      @@patrickbutler87
      Its why I love indie games. There's almost something for everyone.

  • @grunnindieps1-stylesurviva200
    @grunnindieps1-stylesurviva200 Год назад +106

    I still really prefer these kinds of fast pace shooters. You can just jump in for 30 min and shoot stuff instead of waiting for 20 minutes of cutscenes or dialog interactions.
    Edit: I do really like myself some modern story driven solo games. But when you got little time, I almost always go for some fast pace fps.

    • @matternicuss
      @matternicuss Год назад +17

      Same. The gameplay is just way more satisfying and fun than modern shooters, where you usually hide behind cover and wait till your health refills. Also the level design in old school FPSs is so much more interesting and complex. Give me mazes over linear corridors any day!

    • @LG-ro5le
      @LG-ro5le Год назад +4

      Exactly, i hate long cutscenes, even worse when you cant skip them, if i wanted to watch cutscenes i would watch a movie i dont need them in a game lol

    • @christianlarson2933
      @christianlarson2933 Год назад +5

      Not to mention the tutorial

    • @giakhanh51004
      @giakhanh51004 Год назад

      Well, Half Life and Portal seem like the only games fit your demands

    • @giakhanh51004
      @giakhanh51004 Год назад

      @@matternicusslol and then you get stuck and then you complain why the heck is this level so confusing

  • @SnotlipsTM
    @SnotlipsTM Год назад +1360

    Maybe they should be called "DOOMER SHOOTERS"

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  Год назад +214

      You are 100% correct, sir! 😂

    • @sandymckerchar3287
      @sandymckerchar3287 Год назад +32

      I second this

    • @goldenheartOh
      @goldenheartOh Год назад +49

      I thought that too, but I like to think of "Boomer" as "things going BOOM!"
      Both are good tho.

    • @stellarhole
      @stellarhole Год назад +5

      @@goldenheartOh Same

    • @Domanator316
      @Domanator316 Год назад +29

      My vote is for NUKEM SHOOTERS! 😂

  • @gedeuchnixan3830
    @gedeuchnixan3830 Год назад +9

    I was born in 87 and loved those games and was wishing for these type of games coming back for years, one of the very best is Metal Hellsinger. Fragging away while listening to Metal written for this game and performed by legit metal stars? It´s so freaking much fun and I don´t mind it being combined with a rythm game, the package is simply amazingly made and you feel the love put into the game.

  • @delscoville
    @delscoville Год назад +4

    BTW, full 3D polygons was introduced with Quake, which is a Pentium era game. Just pointing that out. I'm old and remember this. Great video, BTW.

  • @trevorfreund4110
    @trevorfreund4110 Год назад +76

    Dude, Singularity is SUCH a hidden gem, I picked it up back in the day for like $0.99 on a whim without knowing what it was and it was a BLAST

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  Год назад +18

      I replayed Singularity recently on the Steam Deck...LOVED IT all over again. SO GOOD>

    • @trevorfreund4110
      @trevorfreund4110 Год назад +2

      @@MetalJesusRocks I need to replay it! I was gonna play it on my physical 360 version, but on my Steam Deck sounds even better! 🤘🏻

    • @light819
      @light819 Год назад +4

      Ravens last hurrah before the cod mines

    • @kiskeangel2760
      @kiskeangel2760 Год назад +1

      Yeah,Singularity is a great fps with some Bioshock elements 👍I also enjoyed a lot Timeshift and the Fear series on my Xbox 360.

  • @poposterous236
    @poposterous236 Год назад +60

    I'll agree that FC3: Blood Dragon, while technically not a 'Boomer Shooter', did herald in a new wave of nostalgia-based game design along with Hotline Miami which was released the year before.

    • @Alconium
      @Alconium Год назад

      Honorary boomer shooter for sure.

  • @vinniecorleone62
    @vinniecorleone62 Год назад +19

    I'm a avid gamer at 60 years old & I proudly wear the "Boomer" name!
    I certainly dig Boomer Shooters from "Doom" & "Duke Nukem", all the way up to the addictive "40K Boltgun"!

    • @rosstee
      @rosstee Год назад +1

      Cool, so did you start gaming in the late 70's?

    • @vinniecorleone62
      @vinniecorleone62 Год назад +3

      @@rosstee Since 1975 & "Pong".

    • @rosstee
      @rosstee Год назад +2

      @@vinniecorleone62 Classic. I'm a little younger - born in '77, so I started playing in the mid 80's with arcade games like Double Dragon.

    • @That1PissedOffBoomer
      @That1PissedOffBoomer Год назад

      But that's not what they are.

    • @That1PissedOffBoomer
      @That1PissedOffBoomer Год назад

      Boomers are baby boomers!!!! I'm GenX. We are not the same.

  • @TheOctoJon
    @TheOctoJon Год назад +8

    Glad there’s a resurgence of the genre, I play through doom 1, and 2 every year, and play all the new retro style platformers. Good to see there’s similar new games in the doom style.

    • @davida12345
      @davida12345 Год назад +2

      It never left and was never not popular, you just recently paid more attention

    • @morriganrenfield8240
      @morriganrenfield8240 10 месяцев назад

      @@davida12345it definitely left in the early 2000’s until the early 2010’s (around 2013)

  • @James-gj8rn
    @James-gj8rn Год назад +100

    Warhammer 40K Boltgun was absolutely fantastic and one of the best surprises of the year for me :)

    • @Piernic
      @Piernic Год назад +4

      I recommend Ashes 2063 and Ashes Afterglow.

    • @rionugroho1403
      @rionugroho1403 Год назад +2

      Yes!

    • @XavierGage
      @XavierGage Год назад +2

      I recommend Nightmare Reaper

    • @cjh0751
      @cjh0751 Год назад

      There are some great shooters you've reviewed. Nice one Jason

    • @legolongbuilds8021
      @legolongbuilds8021 Год назад +1

      Sadly it comes from Netease, so it's a no go.

  • @Spartan77
    @Spartan77 Год назад +13

    In Blood Dragon, that is Michael Biehn doing the voice of the maim character. It was part of the whole bring back the 80's vibe the game was going for.

  • @slickcubano
    @slickcubano Год назад +64

    As a young “Boomer” (I was born in '62) I love these games. They are perfectly mindless.
    I think the name “Boomer Shooter” was a young person that didn't know that Boomers are from 1946 to 1964. The generation that these games come from, span 2 generations. Gen X & Millennials.
    Thanks for the awesome video MJ!

    • @potssnpanns8418
      @potssnpanns8418 Год назад

      They know when the Boomers were born. We all learn about the baby boom in history class.
      They just started calling younger generations that as an insult. Used mostly when people are unnecessarily stubborn/closed minded, or when they reminisce about childhood experiences they believe no longer exist, like a scraped knee or drinking from the hose.
      Yeah, a lot of people around my age do not think highly of older folks...

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 Год назад +1

      Yup. Younger Gen X like me, and older Millenials, played alot of these games and were the core audience.
      My favorite was Outlaws. It doesn't get alot of press now days.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey Год назад

      the first shooter game was wolfenstein in 1991 most boomers did not play shooters , the most advanced game system my boomer parents ever cared to play was the NES. my step dad did get into pc gaming later in his life but he mostly kept to RTSes.

    • @awesomehigames
      @awesomehigames Год назад +1

      Dude you're over 60 you aren't young

    • @victorc1421
      @victorc1421 Год назад +10

      @@awesomehigames Yep, I'll be 61 in October. That being said, 61 isn't that old. If I die today, everyone would ask, how old was he?...only 60...OMG, he was young.
      You'll understand when you're my age.

  • @Phantasystar77
    @Phantasystar77 Год назад +3

    I just started up Warhammer Boltgun and it's great. No constant cutscenese, no game urinalist difficulty. Just pure, fun, gameplay.

  • @johnwelander
    @johnwelander Год назад +6

    Never heard the term before now, but totally appropriate. Plus, you don't need an RTX 4090 to play these. Love the retro style too.Thank you very much for this particular video!!

  • @nightbirdds
    @nightbirdds Год назад +19

    I actually work on a GZDoom mod called Dragon Sector (The Remake). We're working with GZDoom and Project Brutality to make something pretty cool. While I love the modern Boomer Shooters, I find making my own more fun.

    • @jfitnesshealth
      @jfitnesshealth Год назад

      all the best on that man! looking forward to it! Working on a brutal doom fork mod for v20b and yea it feels fun when you can make something work for what you want!

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer Год назад +1

      You Doom modders are amazingly talented and underappreciated!

  • @Lippeth
    @Lippeth Год назад +42

    Cultic was one of my top games of last year, inspired by games like Blood, RE4 etc. and made by one guy. A must play for lovers of the genre.

    • @lifestorock
      @lifestorock Год назад +5

      Cultic is golden. The fact that it was done by a single dev makes it even more impressive. Can't wait for "Chapter Two". Maybe the dev even gets the hang on netcode and implements coop. He talked about it in a dev vlog.

    • @Andross224
      @Andross224 Год назад +3

      can't wait to see the next episode of it

    • @pizzakiep4157
      @pizzakiep4157 Год назад +1

      Cultic was insanely good, its up there with dusk for me

    • @RetroRuss
      @RetroRuss Год назад +4

      If you like Heretic or Hexen, try out Amid Evil.

    • @Lippeth
      @Lippeth Год назад

      ​@@RetroRuss I still play both Heretic and Hexen quite a lot; but sadly the things I love about those games aren't present in Amid Evil, which I found to be more similar to Painkiller: Hell and Damnation.

  • @UndeadAaronGames
    @UndeadAaronGames Год назад +4

    People have no idea how awesome and experience it was to have your friends bringinging their Voodoo 3 pcs to your apartment , setting up laundry tables for all the computers and using a LAN to frag each other all night long in quake 3 arena , while being cooked alive from the pure heat of 6 CRT monitors going for hours.

  • @RoosTerJunkyard
    @RoosTerJunkyard Год назад +6

    Nice video. In this revival of old shooters, we already saw new games replicating elements of doom and quake. I'm waiting for one inspired by the first Unreal, with those big inhospitable landscapes to explore and enemies with complex patterns.

    • @MatrixAlphaCWX
      @MatrixAlphaCWX Год назад +2

      Yess this comment right here.
      I agree.

    • @vgmaster9
      @vgmaster9 10 месяцев назад

      Would also like to see a revival of 2000s era shooters like Doom 3, Half Life 2, Halo, FEAR, Far Cry, Quake 4, Prey, Crysis, and early COD.

  • @WH250398
    @WH250398 Год назад +16

    Prodeus is seriously good. I highly recommend it. I'm looking forward to Trepang 2's console release as well. The demo was amazing.

  • @RAMPAGERX300
    @RAMPAGERX300 Год назад +21

    Boomer shooter's are bloody awesome, the very best that FPS has to offer today for 90's gaming enthusiasts whether they were about during that period of time or not! 👌😆 Oh and by the way Metal Jesus, just letting you know the reason why Sgt. Rex in Farcry 3: Blood Dragon sounds like Kyle Reese from The Terminator movie is because Sgt. Rex is voiced by the one and only legend Michael Biehn! 👍😉

  • @thiscommentor
    @thiscommentor Год назад +21

    Thanks for introducing me to a genre I didn’t even know existed. I don’t have as much time these days to game but it’s nice to have these videos on in the background and remember moments from my childhood.

    • @robsmall6466
      @robsmall6466 Год назад +1

      You knew about the genre already. They are FPS's. Boomer Shooter is a complete load of.....

    • @minimvl
      @minimvl Год назад

      @@robsmall6466 let people like shit

  • @JonDGAF
    @JonDGAF Год назад +13

    Love seeing these games make a comeback. I was in Middle School when Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior came out. Always have been a fan of that style FPS. Redneck Rampage, Outlaws.....all great games.

  • @nagruvajse
    @nagruvajse Год назад +2

    no body call that in other parts of the world. in europe, we just call it FPS GAMES. than we describe it additionally

  • @LegendOfGames
    @LegendOfGames Год назад +2

    I got into an argument with someone on Facebook when I said "Boomer Shooter" wasn't very good name to describe those games, and stuff like Asteroids is more like what a Boomer Shooter would actually be (my parents, who are both actual Baby Boomers, played that game back in the day.)
    The dude couldn't grasp the fact that the games were not made by Boomers (John Romero and John Carmack of id are both Gen-X) and that their primary demographic upon release was most certainly not Boomers. He also refused to accept that anything that isn't an FPS could be a type of shooter.
    And yes, I know "boomer" is now being used by Gen-Z kids to describe something old, but that's just dumb.

  • @solar3mpire
    @solar3mpire Год назад +20

    Boltgun also has a pixelation option in the graphic settings

  • @frankiepoindexter445
    @frankiepoindexter445 Год назад +11

    Excellent video. I grew up playing many "boomer shooters" in the 90's, including Duke 3D, Quake, Hexen, Heretic, Blood, Unreal, Shadow Warrior, Wolfenstein, Goldeneye, Turok, and especially Doom (which I have probably played for over 10,000 hours). This is my first time ever hearing of Prodeus, and I just bought it on Steam because of your recommendation. Thank you!

    • @VeloCetera
      @VeloCetera Год назад

      Heretic was so great. Thanks for reminding me of it!

  • @negativespace261
    @negativespace261 Год назад +7

    HIGHLY recommend Ultrakill as well. It’s an utterly brutal game, definitely more challenging when it comes to boss fights. But the mechanics are like a mix of DMC and Quake. It’s amazing stuff!

  • @stolenname94
    @stolenname94 Год назад +5

    I wished you had mentioned the skill tree and the differences between male and female in forgive me father. It blew through it in 2 days and played it for a good few weeks.

  • @jkcrawl
    @jkcrawl Год назад +2

    The word "Boomer" is a mixed bag.
    It originally meant older people in their 60s/70s, then it became associated with people who have dated worldviews, now it seems to be refering to anything that's more than a decade old.
    I'm personally not offended by it, but I also think it's unoriginal and overused at this point and doesn't carry much meaning at all.
    I think the worst offense is Tim Henson refering to old guitar vends as "boomer bends" when they're actually blues bends. There's virtually no point in calling it "boomer bends" other than some weird passive aggression towards people who like that older style.

  • @Slayer-777-
    @Slayer-777- Год назад +13

    The gameplay of each game looks highly addictive and a Ton of fun

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs Год назад +1

      Blood is The best game made in build engine . old shadow warrior is cool too

  • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
    @J.A.Z-TheMortal Год назад +12

    Although it has not been released, Fallen Aces deserves an honorable mention, due to its unique take on the boomer shooter genre. It has a beautiful cell shaded look, and 1930s mob scene setting. I play the demo on a regular basis, and im hoping the devs will announce a release date soon.

    • @itsrainingcats9968
      @itsrainingcats9968 Год назад +1

      It's not a retro FPS though.

    • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
      @J.A.Z-TheMortal Год назад

      ​​@@itsrainingcats9968It is a shooter. Is just not a fast, twitchy shooter like Doom or Quake, and is also not as slow paced and Metroidvania-like Power slave or System Shock. So Its IMO an awesome in between.

  • @strangevision99
    @strangevision99 Год назад +11

    I heard the term before but didn't think of the generational name. I thought it described the nature of the gameplay. All fast action shooting, lots of booms!

    • @WildPork
      @WildPork Год назад +5

      I believe you are correct. I heard the name comes from "boomstick" shotguns.

    • @Tapp-Mourningwood
      @Tapp-Mourningwood Год назад +1

      ​@@WildPorkThey should call them S-Mart shooters then. 😉

    • @That1PissedOffBoomer
      @That1PissedOffBoomer Год назад

      Oh..... Wow if that's the case then uhhhhh.... I feel a little embarrassed.

    • @That1PissedOffBoomer
      @That1PissedOffBoomer Год назад

      Well I get the boomstick thing but baby boomers ARE baby boomers. I was 16 when Doom came out. I don't know that many people that are my parents age that play FPS's. Sorry but that's bullshit. I was the target audience age for Doom when it came out, not my parents. STOP FUCKING EQUATING MY GENERATION TO MY PARENTS!!! Learn to read, get a dictionary. It's written plain as day. Boomer is short for BABY BOOMER!!!!

  • @WildApple_OP-Plays
    @WildApple_OP-Plays Год назад +1

    Nice video! You mentioned Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon... I think the first "boomer shooter" would be Rise of the Triad remake from the same year, 2013. However bad it was, it is a milestone, because some of the guys would later make Ion Fury and many other games.

  • @ThisSteveGuy
    @ThisSteveGuy Год назад +1

    Glad you brought up Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon. What a cool little hidden gem. I was thinking about it when you were talking about the other games, so i'd say it counts, at least aesthetically.

  • @DerivitivFilms
    @DerivitivFilms Год назад +11

    Boomer shooters are particularly incredible in VR. The Quest has been getting VR ports of stuff like Doom 1-3, Quake 1-4, Half-Life, Wolfenstein, and Prey. Along with stuff like Compound and Amid Evil. I don't think Blood Dragon is a boomer shooter, it's too modern, but it is retro inspired, so I say it gets a pass.

  • @justinmohan7103
    @justinmohan7103 Год назад +17

    This is one of the best videos you have done in a long time. Good topic. I like these games. They are easy to play just like you said. More modern and Tripple A games are becoming too complex and the indie games are just fun with simple stories.

  • @DaBigCheeso
    @DaBigCheeso Год назад +51

    As a 90s PC Gamer, I'm here for this revitalized Boomer Shooter craze

    • @Siranoxz
      @Siranoxz Год назад +2

      As a fellow 90´s gamer i commend you for that fellow 90´s gamer.

    • @vanadyan1674
      @vanadyan1674 Год назад

      Hate the genre name, love the genre.

    • @tykralin756
      @tykralin756 Год назад

      Well, I fall into that category. I guess I could be called doom boomer shooter, or a doom & gloom, boomer shooter?

  • @bellotriggerfish
    @bellotriggerfish Год назад +1

    I love these retro-styled shooters. Never heard of Proteus, but I LOVE the gore factor you showed in your gameplay. Looks like something right up my alley. Thanks for the vid!

  • @thejervis86
    @thejervis86 Год назад +5

    These types of games are amazing and it really is refreshing to see a resurgence of the genre.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Год назад

      It's one of those things that went away for stupid reasons, and I'm not surprised that they're back. Especially for the folks that have work and families and need to work whatever gaming they're doing into short bursts from time to time. Something as involved as an RPG based shooter can be too much commitment to get to enjoy without taking a week off work for.

  • @osheroth
    @osheroth Год назад +8

    Prodeus is so damn good, almost as good as Dusk; though aside from the first two dimensions it kinda feels rushed and not that focused, still an amazing experience

    • @TheMightySilverback_
      @TheMightySilverback_ Год назад

      Dusk is definitely the undisputed king but I agree Prodeus is excellent in it's own right.

    • @SuckItDown
      @SuckItDown Год назад

      Prodeus is a strange case, it ends when is starting to get really good.

  • @PoilQC
    @PoilQC Год назад +20

    Dusk is what initially got me into boomer shooters. Actually never knew the therm ''boomer shooter''. I just called them retro styled fps or like pretty much everyone else ''ps1 graphics fps''

  • @newfiepacer
    @newfiepacer Год назад +5

    Blood Dragon is one of my favorite games! It's so fun and super funny. Highly recommend that game to anyone, so the more categories it's in, the more people will see about it and play it and hopefully with added interest we can get a new one like it hahaha

  • @JamieBainbridge
    @JamieBainbridge Год назад +1

    FPS have always been showcases for latest technology. You know how groundbreaking Wolf3D and Doom were in their time. Don't forget the "Does it run Crysis?" meme.

  • @bluesgtrcat
    @bluesgtrcat Год назад

    Great video! I have most of these games and love jumping in for some fast-paced fragging when I want a rest from the AAA's. BTW - the voice in Blood Dragon is, in fact, Michael Biehn!

  • @joemouton1194
    @joemouton1194 Год назад +4

    A few other recommendations are Nightmare Reaper, Cultic, and Wrath:Aeon of Ruin.
    A lot of the boomer shooters are built for mouse and keyboard in mind so PC might be the go to for these games.

  • @allergic2life
    @allergic2life Год назад +10

    Makes me happy seeing all these retro looking games come back! So many good ones!!

  • @SMJSmoK
    @SMJSmoK Год назад +12

    IMO what Blood Dragon did really well was that it put this whole 80's action movie inspired aesthetic with neons, synthwave etc. into the gaming "public consciousness". It's not the first game that did that (we had Hotline Miami a year before and others), but it did that on an almost AAA level and it exposed a lot of people to this. And as a fan of this "subculture", I'm really grateful to Blood Dragon, even if it's not necessarily at the top of the list of these 80's inspired things for me (there was just too much Far Cry in it for me and after a while the gameplay got really stale and repetitive, just like Far Cry).

    • @control_the_pet_population
      @control_the_pet_population Год назад +5

      Yep, that was my issue with Blood Dragon... after 40 hours of vanilla FC3, the gameplay just wasn't unique enough. That's not a knock on the game necessarily, I just got burned out on it before completing it... one of those "one day I'll go back and revisit it" games that I'll get around to one of these years. That said, for a relatively quick and cheap mod of FC3, it's got a fun 80s sci-fi story and some fun visuals... but at the time, I was just burned out on FC3

    • @olafsigursons
      @olafsigursons Год назад

      I really don't remember there were these neons. It's the color of one of the color pattern on a 286, but neon? Never seen some.

  • @Psilocybin77
    @Psilocybin77 Год назад

    In 1993 my high school best friend Tom, installed Wolfenstein 3D on all the PCs in our library and next semester did that throughout our first computer lab, once they had it running. The following year we had a MASSIVE open air room, like a greehouse filled with PCs; so he installed both DOOM and Mechwarrior on those.
    Looking back I am so grateful for my high school experience and the friends I made. For perspective, my High School was established in the 1960s to allow for vocational minded students (in a Canadian province with an oil based economy). By the Nineties the school was unable to meet attendance requirements, and in 1993 it was converted into a, "School of Science and Technology". It was a one of a kind school at the time and featured many innovations; including hundreds of PCs, both in the library and in a massive lab that nearly filled 1/3 of the main floor of our school.
    In retrospect I never would have found my love of PCs and PC gaming if not for Tom, and all those computers filled with those awesome games. It was a labour of absolute love (or rebellion) for Tom, installing those games disk by disk and I never told him thanks. I'd been a console gamer since I was 6 years old with an Atari 3600 up to Super Nintendo up to that point, and Wolfenstein 3D proved to be something I'd never known I wanted my entire life. Those games changed gaming for a lot of people, so there's a lot of nostalgia baked right in. Good memories.
    (PS. Tom's mother was head librarian at the school and our Computer labs teacher, was very relaxed in how he treated us lol, our school population was tiny for that first 2 years, and we got away with stuff that wouldn't fly in most schools).

  • @TheViper4Life
    @TheViper4Life Год назад

    Thanks for this...was in the mood for a Shooter lately but wanted something a little less ordinary. So I was going to grab Turbo Overkill for PS5, but when I couldn't find it on the PS Store, I saw your pinned comment. So instead, I picked up Ion Fury which you didn't highlight, but it caught my eye in your intro.
    As for your list, I got all the trophies in Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon TWICE (PS3 and PS4 remaster), excellent game.

  • @El_Diablo1680
    @El_Diablo1680 Год назад +5

    Classic 90s FPS formerly known as DOOM Clones.

  • @tdouble81
    @tdouble81 Год назад +4

    Prodeus is great! I'll check out Boltgun too, that seems to be a nice change of pace.

  • @vancecannella6995
    @vancecannella6995 Год назад +4

    I don’t think Blood Dragon is a boomer shooter, but it’s a fantastic game and a great ode to old school/retro gaming!! It was the first game I ever got all the achievements for and I’ll never forget it!

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs Год назад

      its very boring gameplay . game even made fun of it . i found most open world shooters boring. rage did it right

    • @vancecannella6995
      @vancecannella6995 Год назад

      @@LordDeBahs Nowadays the gameplay might feel a bit boring and dated. However, being a reskin of Far Cry 3, which was an innovative game for its time, with a comical tone, I loved it!

  • @MulletsRUs
    @MulletsRUs Год назад

    0:48 Dude I've been looking for this game since I was a kid! I've never know what it was I used to play on an old Macintosh but that gameplay right there is it.
    Cheers MJR

  • @GMHX77
    @GMHX77 Год назад +2

    I hope they bring the arena shooters back

  • @decisionparalysis7856
    @decisionparalysis7856 Год назад +3

    I was so shocked at how good Project Warlock looked seeing you play it, I went to the steam store to add it to my wishlist and the option was not there, turns out I already own it. Totally going to play that game, I don't know how I acquired it, probably a bundle, but yeah thanks for that XD.

    • @JadeMythriil
      @JadeMythriil Год назад

      Project Warlock was part of a humble bundle a year ago. I got it myself and was instantly captivated by how well it plays. It was definitely a hidden gem for me.

    • @danielsala81
      @danielsala81 Год назад

      ​@@JadeMythriil I got in February 2020 with my HB subscription.

    • @lillpoetboy
      @lillpoetboy Год назад

      i love it when your backlog of games is so massive you have No idea what you have in your library until you come across a video on youtube of this cool game, only to find out you bought it two years ago. I love that feeling.

    • @decisionparalysis7856
      @decisionparalysis7856 Год назад

      Yeah I know, Steam is pretty cool like that, bundle sites are pretty awesome. I have more games than I will ever actually be able to play. I had to quit buying them as they became an addiction, those deals hook you. I currently have 1,215 games, which is actually nothing compared to some other people. I admit a lot of those games are never going to get touched. I love it when something like this happens though. @@lillpoetboy

  • @DerelictCountry
    @DerelictCountry Год назад +34

    I've always found MJR's cluelessness on these topics to be so endearing. He's the OG boomer gamer

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  Год назад +7

      I know, right?

    • @overlordalfredo
      @overlordalfredo Год назад +1

      He is not a boomer though... He is too young for that term

    • @infernogott
      @infernogott Год назад +1

      @@overlordalfredo boomer is everyone starting at 30. its a meme

    • @overlordalfredo
      @overlordalfredo Год назад +2

      @@infernogott I know the meme and that's still not correct it's people in their 60 and not just that, it's a specific kind of attitude of a person of that age that fits the meme.
      A "Boomer" would be the parents of someone in their 30ties, it's targeting a different generation.

  • @KoolManLuke
    @KoolManLuke Год назад +6

    One of my favorite boomer shooters to release recently that wasn’t mentioned is Cultic. Kind of a modern take on Blood. Excellent game and level design.

    • @gonzalocanas8335
      @gonzalocanas8335 Год назад

      Yeah and they add 10-11 days ago a free interlude. Interlude for what?...Cultic 2 is coming :)

  • @yamigekusu
    @yamigekusu Год назад

    I got back into these types of games when I bought my copy of Doom 3 in 2013. And I've been obsessed. Doom 2016, Eternal, Quake, etc.
    A huge chunk of my Steam wishlist is boomer shooter-style games.
    Fashion Police Squad is one of the silliest boomer shooters I have played in years

  • @cpl.barbarusc4814
    @cpl.barbarusc4814 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for adding Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon into the list, maybe isn't that much of a Boomer shooter but it has some elements like falling from great high without getting hurt, running without getting tired, a freaking minigun and bosses with lifemeters. Note: If Rex Power Colt sounds like Kyle Reese it's because it is in fact Michael Biehn who brought life to Kyle Reese and Cpl. Dwayne Hicks, the only bummer to the game is that the sequel ( even if I enjoyed it) isn't a Shooter like it's predecesor. And let's not forget about the music, to this day Blood Dragon soundtrack is still my jam.

  • @Daakist
    @Daakist Год назад +7

    I loved Doom for psx and n64. The music and art were so atmospheric. Doom was the first and maybe the only Boomer Shooter I liked.

  • @helmutstransky3761
    @helmutstransky3761 Год назад +5

    Great overview, competent as always, consider me impressed by mentioning Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon as one origin of this genre.

  • @Cosmic-Bear.
    @Cosmic-Bear. Год назад +3

    My dad is pushing 60 and he was gaming hard in the 90's. Hell, both my parents, they themselves got me into videogames pretty early lol
    But yeah, I get that it's really weird that "boomer" became an insult for people who sometimes aren't even in their 30's...

    • @GG_1318
      @GG_1318 11 месяцев назад

      its from the 30 year old boomer meme which was about millennials

  • @christiangottsacker6932
    @christiangottsacker6932 Год назад +1

    Far Cry blood dragon is not a BS.
    But I totally understand your breakdown. It's definitely not as contentious as "what is an immersive sim" argument.
    The earliest boomer shooter I picked up was Strafe. I still love that game. Everyone should try it. It isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but it came out before boomer shooter was coined, and rips its inspiration from every 90s game, and features from modern games. There is also a "make strafe look worse" feature making it look like a Playstation 1 game.

  • @kalega311
    @kalega311 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great list! To prevent anyone else from being offended by the genre name, lol, "Boomer shooter" actually has multiple layers to its definition. It also comes from shooting w/ a "boomstick" (nickname for shotgun during the OG Doom days). So, you could always think of it like that lol.
    Of course, graphics aside, the genre can also be called twitch shooter, arcade shooter, or run-n-gun FPS like you stated.

  • @danielpindell1267
    @danielpindell1267 Год назад +3

    Retro shooters because these games are around the retro days.

  • @raulgutierrezconstante8119
    @raulgutierrezconstante8119 Год назад +4

    Born in '64
    I'M GAMING !!!
    I ain't old..... it's the skin what wrinkles ( and you loose hair, get fat n'stuff like that but who cares ! )
    Man, I love to game, shooters are my kinda candy.

    • @audie-cashstack-uk4881
      @audie-cashstack-uk4881 Год назад

      51 look 30 lol re2 remake re3 remake re4 remake re rev re rev 2 and tears of the kingdom this Yr pc 4k 120hz and my switch

  • @GelatinPangolin
    @GelatinPangolin Год назад +15

    i love “Boomer Shooters”, but i think someone nailed it when they (sarcastically) said a better name for the genre would be WOLFENDOOM, in reference to metroidvanias. Even though this was meant as a joke, i think this name genuinely works the same way metroidvania does

    • @jonathancrews169
      @jonathancrews169 Год назад +5

      Or DoomNukem

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 Год назад

      I submit that ARCADESHOOTER would also be a good name, or RETROSHOOTER.

    • @cmdrfunk
      @cmdrfunk Год назад

      Castlevania and Metroid are different types of games. Wolfenstein and Doom are basically the same.

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek Год назад +1

    brats call anyone over 30 boomer these days. That's our 90s FPS. both Far cry and the first modern Wolfenstein came up with those DLCs that play much more like those classics. Lately I've been into replaying actual 90 FPS in VR. it's awesome

  • @ryanburke1656
    @ryanburke1656 Год назад

    Glad you're into the genre! It's a really exciting time to be a fan of these games. For what it's worth, I think Blood Dragon is beautiful and entertaining, but it's absolutely not a Retro FPS/Boomer Shooter. For my money, the 2 games that started a lot of momentum for the Retro FPS scene were the 2013 Shadow Warrior remake, and the 2013 Rise of the Triad remake. They showed the potential hype, but also what needs improving when modernizing something that captures the feeling of those games. It took a few years of milling about, but the wombo combo of Dusk and Doom in 2016 is when the genre really got it's footing and started to flex on what it could really do.
    Not to mention, scene hero Andrew Hulshult would get his retro FPS soundtracking start with RotT

  • @andoryuu74
    @andoryuu74 Год назад +10

    I think the real issue with 'Boomer Shooter' is yet another example of Gen-X erasure. This game style almost exclusively originates from Gen-Xers who were in their 20's back in the early 90's and it sucks to see it attributed to a generation that doesn't deserve it, regardless if it is intended as derogatory or a term of endearment.

    • @sokar_rostau
      @sokar_rostau Год назад

      To be fair, most of the games we played were made by Baby Boomers.

    • @andoryuu74
      @andoryuu74 Год назад

      Doom and Wolfenstein. John Romero born 1967 = Gen-X. John Carmack born 1970 = Gen-X. Yes there were likely some boomers in the industry, but the genre defining devs were Gen-X.

    • @sokar_rostau
      @sokar_rostau Год назад

      @@andoryuu74 OMFG. For 30-odd years I've thought that Doom was made by George A. Romero. It just made so much sense I never questioned it.
      It has to also be considered that Boomer isn't a term reserved for Baby Boomers. It's applied to people involved in a boom, like oil boomers. It can, and probably should, also be applied to things like the DotCom boom (which makes Elon Musk a DotCom Boomer and Jeff Bezos a Double-Boomer). When you look at it this way, there was indeed a boom of these kinds of games in the '90s, so Boomer Shooter is still an apt name.
      As far as Gen X erasure goes, I haven't heard it before and I do kind of like it. While I partly agree with the general sentiment, I don't think it's a useful way to view things. Millennials are a sub-set of both Gen X and Gen Y. The youngest Millennials are in their mid-30s but the youngest of Gen Y are still in their 20s, and we've gone straight from talking about Millennials to Zoomers. It's not just Gen X that's being forgotten.
      At the end of the day, we're all created by a media needing stereotypes. The irony of it all is that the oldest Zoomers have far more in common with Boomers than they want to believe.

  • @ashir555
    @ashir555 Год назад +6

    "Boomer Shooter" is a stupid AND pejorative name for a "genre". It was coined by millenials to refer to FPSs that looked like classic FPSs from the 90's. Everybody should use Retro Shooter instead, mostly because even when I feel that the 90's happened yesterday... it was 30 years ago!!!, so yeah, that is retro.

    • @bananonymouslastname5693
      @bananonymouslastname5693 Год назад +1

      It's not even Millennials. It's Gen-Z kids who call anything before their time "boomer." It's dismissive.

  • @Densiozo
    @Densiozo Год назад +5

    They're not simpler. They are harder to master and finish then those scripted new FPS

  • @HoroJoga
    @HoroJoga Год назад +1

    Boomer shooter is 100% a term of endearment as you pointed out. The friends I have who enjoy those kind of games aren't even from the 90s, some of them born after 2000 and they love the genre.

  • @swinoob616
    @swinoob616 Год назад +1

    Adaca, White Hell, Wrath Aeon of Ruin, Blade of Agony, Hell Denizen, Herald of Havoc...and a lot more!

  • @_DML_
    @_DML_ Год назад +3

    I think to allow the "zoomers" to continue butchering the English language is a bad thing, and as such, the meaning of the term "boomer" (ie. referring to the arbitrary "baby boomer" generation) should be maintained.

  • @lillpoetboy
    @lillpoetboy Год назад

    I'm 42 years old, and I have been playing shooters since I was 14 years old way back with the original Doom, Quake and Wrath of Earth on my old dos computer ( yeah I used floppy disks back then for my pc games), and have continued to love shooters to this day, and I'm just NOW hearing the term boomer shooter, and thus why I am here. Making this comment. Ion Fury and Forgive me Father and UltraKill are some of the best boomer shooter's I've ever played, hands down straight up badass awesomeness. And made me realize I am attracted to that 90's style shooters because I played those games growing up, and I still play them ( the newer updated ,more polished HD versions ) to this day.

  • @nothingelse1520
    @nothingelse1520 2 месяца назад +1

    Project Warlock was the first boomer shooter I ever played. I was getting owned on the first level till I figured out the enemy AI a bit. Got some awesome upgrades a few levels in too.

  • @wolfietigerstripes3248
    @wolfietigerstripes3248 Год назад

    what i love about this era of gaming is everything is cool now!! I remember back in the day when I was playing a ps1 game at a party when everyone else was playing either gamecube, ps2 or xbox, and I got asked many times "why are you playing an old game for"? well for me I loved my ps1 games as much as ps2, my sega genesis, etc. now i love that a lot of indie developers are making games in this retro aspect like side scrollers, beat em ups, the boomer shooters as you mentioned, etc. I love it all!!! I mean HD gaming is cool, and games are getting better and better, but now there is no shame in playing older games, or older style games too, HD gaming is now just another Genre instead just a "better" game.

  • @tracksuitcheems
    @tracksuitcheems Год назад +1

    It’s not a term of endearment. It’s continual slide of our language into grunts, onomatopoeia, alliteration, and rhymes. It accelerated in the vacant corporate platitudes of America in the 70s and has been adopted by the zoomers to emotionally distance them selves from all of the clear temperamental similarities they share with the boomers.
    We called it pixel art back when we still had our words.

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk Год назад

    Good overview of the genre! I was into the "revival" with Dusk and Amid Evil, but some of these you mentioned I have skipped on but will definitely have to try them. Prodeus in particular looks amazing!

  • @Sl4wt3r
    @Sl4wt3r 11 месяцев назад

    One thing that I love about this particular genre making a comeback is the absolute flood of secrets and Super-secrets to hunt for. Those are something admittedly small that I really missed from boomer shooters that never really transitioned over to modern set-piece shooters with their constant need to make sure that every player manages to find every checklist collectible.

  • @NicholasBrakespear
    @NicholasBrakespear Год назад +1

    The real reason so-called "boomer shooters" regained popularity: It's not their simplicity... the opposite. It's the sophistication and coherence of their gameplay; the fact that their gameplay is intrinsically tied to their level design. That's actually why they immediately feel so good to play; they flow, immediately, because their entire design revolves around the way level geometry channels gameplay. This is also why Boltgun, as Civvie observed in his video, is NOT a boomer shooter; I love it to bits, but no it's not at all. It's a post-Painkiller arena shooter. It locks you into arenas, and spawns enemies around you. That's not a boomer shooter. That's not what the old-school 90s shooters did.
    In fact, the original Doom didn't spawn enemies at all except for three exceptions: pain elementals spawning lost souls, arch-viles resurrecting enemies, and the Doom 2 final boss. All the teleport ambushes were done using a finite number of enemies sitting in a nearby room, triggered to attack the player via sound pipes, and physically walking into a teleporter in their brainless pursuit of the player.
    Dusk? Amid Evil? Yes. Boomer shooters. Boltgun? No.
    A so-called boomer shooter isn't about speed or simplicity. It's about the mastery of level design and the direct interaction between that level design and the moment to moment gameplay; no enemies conveniently pooping player-reactive amounts of ammo, no waves spawning. Each level is a handcrafted puzzle to solve, with a finite number of resources and a finite number of enemies, with the player striving for the optimal violent path through this labyrinth.
    Watch the "devs play Doom" video series, in which Romero plays through and discusses the first chapter of the original Doom, and you'll begin to understand what it is that genuine "boomer shooters" are actually trying to recapture.
    In fact, play Dusk, and pay attention to the games it frequently pays homage to in its level design - from Thief to Half-Life - and you'll start to understand what it's really all about.

  • @Electro096
    @Electro096 Год назад +1

    Tbh how modern gaming is today it doesn't shock me that indies and games like thse are becoming more popular, games these take themselves far too seriously these days not everything needs to be 90 rated or story heavy, what happened to playing a video game just for a video game. wacky action packed fun for a few hours

  • @JB9000x
    @JB9000x Год назад +2

    I'm definitely going to have a look at at least one of these.
    I used to love doom and all the the skins that people made for it (Aliens, Simpsons etc). And Unreal Tournament was amazing.
    But what i really enjoyed were the ones that had a bit more adventure story to them, like Heretic, then later on Tron 2, which was underrated at the time.
    Also i wish someone would remake Rise Of The Triad. That was a blast and would fit in with these so well.

    • @g-forcefgt323
      @g-forcefgt323 Год назад

      ROTT 2013 wasn't very good... but they did remaster the 94 ROTT recently!

  • @Gabi-bv9ux
    @Gabi-bv9ux Год назад +1

    People interested in this style of game should absolutely check out Cultic, Amid Evil, Zortch. Dread Templar, G String, Hrot, Nightmare Reaper, Trepang 2, Sprawl and there is plenty more (both out and coming very soon).

  • @spartanezleonid3972
    @spartanezleonid3972 8 месяцев назад +1

    You forgot about WRATH: Aeon of Ruin - the best retro shooter of our time!

  • @ingolfrvargr
    @ingolfrvargr Год назад

    I like this term! I've always though about them as Old School Shooters/OSFPS or 90s FPS or something like that. Just started playing the original Doom (on PS4) and it brings me so much nostalgia (on top of the genuine entertainment) and I already feel that I'm heading down a rabbit hole. I've barely played a FPS since TimeSplitters because I just generally suck too badly at them, but that's why I'm so drawn to these OS shooters, you don't have to be an expert to enjoy them. Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem, Hexen, etc... used to play them so much as a kid. Glad to see all these new names, I will definitely check them out!

  • @leonah2137
    @leonah2137 Год назад

    On the part at 0:50 -- My dad is a younger boomer, currently in his 60s, and he's the one who turned me on to FPS in the early 90s when i was still single digit aged. He got copies of Wolfenstein, Spear of destiny, Doom, Blake Stone, Rise of the Triad, Duke Nukem 3d, etc. Those were actually the last games he ever really played seriously before dropping the hobby altogether by 1997-98. 'cause of that, I thought title was appropriate, humor aside. I remember him and his friends who were either his age or even up to a decade older pirating copies of these games on floppies and photocopying the instruction manual and strategy guides and making huge-ass binders out of them. It was a wild time.

  • @robinbrowne5419
    @robinbrowne5419 Год назад +1

    I had never even heard of a Boomer Shooter. But I like the way they are making old style shoot-em-ups in the modern gaming universes. Awesome video MJR 👍👍

  • @theintdesigner
    @theintdesigner Год назад +1

    Umm, most people who use the term boomer for anything are doing so to insult any adult they're playing with or to denigrate anything they consider "old". It's kinda annoying and funny at the same time because they don't even know what a boomer really is, they're just saying it because they've heard someone else use the term. If you're going to insult someone, at least know what the term you're using means. It's like calling someone a toaster without ever having seen the recent Battlestar Galactica.

  • @FlikFlaxx
    @FlikFlaxx 6 месяцев назад +1

    just got an ad for ED on a video for boomer shooters lmao

  • @kerbal666
    @kerbal666 Год назад

    Wow I haven't seen this review a game since way back when he did a retrospective on resident evil remake on the GameCube! Hate to say buddy but you look older than me now but I'm really happy to see your still making videos on RUclips 🤘

  • @InLainSight
    @InLainSight Год назад

    hey metal Jesus, I've been watching your videos for years, just wanted to say hey and thank you for the years of great content. we love ya dude

  • @whatwho9714
    @whatwho9714 Год назад +1

    Boltgun is definitely not slow it’s super fast paced your supposed to sprit. You can turn on auto sprint in the menu