I have a mazda 3 hatch and never been happier bc i use it to store things and especially when I drive long distance, able to have everything packed in the trunk. I can never get a sedan unless I get my dads Stinger somehow lol. But, the next vehicle I want is a wagon and that is limited to Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Volvo and a majority of them are ev's..... The second I found out Kia is making a wagon, my mind is blown!!! Though, I am curious there is no wiper for the rear?
@@saxkid6206 BMW needs to start over again as a whole. I am a purist so any vehicle from the 70s to 2011 [excluding the f60 , and the e65] were all good years for BMW. Now, the prestige has gone down entirely...Only way I'd get a BMW is if it is older. For now, the day Kia makes this wagon, I would be completely sold. We need more wagons and hatches.
Hello, I am Korean. It's so sad that Kia's K4 is only sold in North America. I hope they sell it in Korea too. Thank you everyone for your interest in KIA.
@dagoose. My 2018 Hyundai GT Sport is damn near a wagon, & the Forte5 currently being sold in Canada is a wagon by all means. This new K4 gets a 5" wheelbase increase so yea it'll definitely be more on the wagon side of size
@@makatron That was initially my thought too, but the easy way to distinguish a wagon from a hatchback is by looking at the rear quarter area profile from the rear wheel back. Hatchbacks have a shortened rear overhang and a smaller rear quarter window or no rear quarter window in the cargo area. Wagons tend to be the same length as the sedan they're based on, with a similar longer rear overhang and a much larger rear quarter window in the cargo area.
Im still waiting for Toyota to offer ventilation seats on the Corolla. I probably will have to hold my breath for that day to happen. And it looks like we get a half pano roof on the K4. The Koreans are just taking innovation features to the next level. They have truly made the impossible, possible! I have to give credit where credit is due.
@naveenthemachine Naveen, I own an Elantra. It's a 2017 limited model, but I still get compliments on my car. My neighbor thought it was an Audi at first. I remembered buying my car, I had to choose between Corolla and Elantra. The Toyota dealership was going to put me in a Corolla LE. I abruptly walked away because I told the Salesman that I don't do base model cars. And wouldn't give me a deal on the SE Corolla.. And then I went up the street to Hyundai. I was floored of the features my car has. I got memory seats on a compact car! That's wild to me. And, Hyundai gave me a better deal than Toyota. 7 years later, my car still drives like I 1st got it! NO MECHANICAL ISSUES and still under warranty. I am ready to upgrade. Now I don't know if I want to go with Hyundai or Kia. Their lineups are freaking amazing. I'm going to have a hard time choosing..lol
The GT will get the new 2.5t engine from the K5/Sonata like the next Elantra N probably with less power and handling (it's a GT after all). What kia have not mentioned in any of the K4 press release is a hybrid powertrain. We got the Prius, Corolla Cross, and Civic hybrid with more powerful powertrains, and the Korean Car Blog just just did an article stating that H/K is planning to build better hybrid powertrains with AWD for their compact sedans (K4/Elantra) and subcompact crossovers (Kona/Seltos/Niro). As for the n/a 1.6 hybrid, it could go into the Soul and Venue if they get a second generation.
It's not that simple to make a good, reliable and efficient hybrid system + to be profitable. But at least they could put the Niro hybrid system in this K4.
I heard Hyundai has the power of what parts are used for kia. The sonata came with the digital instrument panel, Hyundai didn't want kia to have it on the k5 cuz it would've eaten sonata sales. Same with hybrid power trains.
Really unfortunate that for such a unique and sporty looking car, they don't have a 200+ horsepower trim, and still no mention of a hybrid powertrain. It's a shame, because I love the design of the k4.
No need you’re gonna get pulled over by an officer ruining your day the minute you wanna have any fun or stuck in traffic. What are you gonna do with all that power? People drive like mad animals here in Florida and I’m simply cruising minding my own business chilling for a hot second over limit and pulled over and ticketed.
They have a 200+ HP GT manual option in the current generation. The Elantra N is on the same platform, and is well above that in power. It shouldn't be too unreasonable to assume they will continue with an Si competitor on the Kia side. They may still be deciding if it will be offered in the hatchback, sedan, or both (unlikely both).
These are great. Both are excellent updates and additions. While so many side by side comparisons in this segment go the Toyota/Honda/Mazda route, I don't think the K4 will be able to be ignored like Nissan usually is.
Great design on a small wagon. Honda will need to step up their civic line to keep up, although, civic will have hybrid option. But, That wagon is great!!!
Can't wait to see that wagon come here. The Signia wagon is nice, but very expensive. So this would be a great option. Nice to see Kia making green interiors! So tired of black.
That hatchback looks good. I recently went into Hyundai and drove the Elantra N, but couldnt give up my Veloster N. If they made an Elantra N hatch I would have bought it. Something about the hot hatches thats just awesome.
I'd buy the wagon. I'd love to see it in a mint green or something to compliment the interior of the non GT model. Love the rear design it gives boxy hatchback that has a way stronger presence than other hatchbacks in the segment. Love the direction the brand is going in.
I daily the last true hatchback that Hyundai/ Kia offered for the US which is a 2018 GT Sport (Hyundai) I've been driving it since 2020 & I absolutely love it, but the reliability has some short comings forsure. It has the 1.6T/ 7spd DCT although it puts out 201hp/ 195lbs torque opposed to the 190hp they usually give the 1.6T in its other iterations. That thing was $30k new & is absolutely jammed packed with features, esp for its time. Full glass panoramic sunroof, heated & ventilated real leather seats, wireless charger, Infinity sound system with a sub, rear AC vents, the autonomous driving suite which imo KDM offers some of the best in the industry, nice burbly dual exhausts, the list goes on & on, plus its pretty quick for what it is - 0-60 in about 6s flat with the DCT, but again reliability has definitely been hit or miss & Hyundai's warranty is great on paper, but actually getting them to warrant the warranty is a huge headache every. single. time. unfortunately. I was bummed that the Forte5 hatch didn't come to us, that thing is basically a wagon, which a wagon is the car I currently have on order - a 2024 Audi A4 Allroad Prestige Black Optics, I'm just waiting on it to arrive & then I'm passing my GT Sport onto my gf & eventually my son in a few years when he is old enough to drive. But man, cross shopping last year for another hatch or wagon was a huuuuge headache & I eventually settled on the A4 Allroad which does check all my boxes, but it is a shame that we either get sedans or CUVs 99% of the time anymore. This K4 hatch looks awesome & it supposedly has a 5" wheelbase increase which tbh will prob put it close to midsize for the sedan, & more of a wagon for the hatchback like is true for the Forte5 in Canada. Nice tho Kia that is awesome. Just wish they'd offer more full panoramic sunroofs like Hyundai does, that'd of tied this in nicely.
The HB/Wagon is a nice option most will pass up. Having owned a Forte GT, I am kinda disappointed Kia took 10HP off the K4 turbo engine. No DCT tranny either which I kinda enjoyed. Make a GT version of the HB with the 2.5T and I would most likely buy one and there are a few that would want a hot HB but sales will still be light. The sedan just looks weird. It's like they started to make a HB and then made a sedan. That reason alone would mean I would bypass it even if it was a GT. In fact, maybe I need to buy a 2024 Forte GT before the end of the year on closeout?
With the market showing hybrids are being far more sought after… and this is the ‘brother’ of the Elantra, why not offer a hybrid option!? I am with you, HUGE fan of hatch/wagons. Super happy to see someone actually investing back into them!
I've noticed in the Korean market that they get EVERYTHING! Which makes sense because that's where their cars are. My theory is that for the North American market, they don't want to step on each other toes with features between Hyundai and Kia. Some features we get on Hyundai will not be with Kia or vice versa. Maybe they will add a hybrid on a refresh model of the K4? It seems the Koreans listen to their customers if there is a demand for it.
After buying a used Outback last year since it was one of the few wagon options in North America, all I can say is that I'd love to see the wagon version of the K4 in person... And if I fit in it nicely, and it has comfortable driving dynamics, I wouldn't mind leasing one.
I had a volvo v60, that had to trade-in when it started to give me issues in 2022. I miss that car... hopefully they keep the price in the mid 30s for the GT and I will 100% will get this once i had over my current car to my older daughter in 3 years! This is an amazing looking wagon! Love it
I was extremely excited for this return of a wagon until I saw the engine choices. Engine choices doesnt even change when you get a "GT" model lol Will wait to see what the other manufacturers come out with.
Can’t believe you compared this to the Crown Signa. It couldn’t carry the Signas jock strap. Sure it has a 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty to cover replacing the engine after 60,000 miles. You have never reviewed a car without thinking it is the best car you have ever seen. I resubscribed just so I have the entertainment.
Good job Kia. Too bad the market doesn't support a 3-door hatch with a manual. That would be a spiritual successor to my old 70 series Corolla SR5 Liftback. 😀 Kia, please keep this affordable!
Love the looks but too bad that beautiful green interior is only available on the EX models (per Autoblog). As for that wagon, way to go Kia. Think I'll wait another year for that one.
Back in the day, I had a kia Spectra5 SX (the wagon version of the Spectra, then the Spectra became the Forte, now we have the K4) It was my first kia, and it was a great car but super basic. It had a sunroof (a first for me) and the upgraded wheels. Seemed really well put together and I never had any issues with it. Then I upgraded after a few years to the Optima, when it got redesigned in 2011. I have been with the kia brand ever since. I've had Sportages, a hybrid Optima, and currently an Optima SX-L. I am really exited for the new hatch from kia!! I drove the Seltos SX about a year ago and it has this 1.6 turbo 8 speed auto, it seemed plenty powerful enough.
the wagon would be awesome if they offered a slightly larger engine. Make a hot hatch akin to the old Mazdaspeed 3-series cars. The hatch, to me, is the one to get - it just looks better and you get a larger trunk - win-win.
The side view of the sedan is homely - especially the odd part above the rear wheels and where the roof meets the side panel. The hatchback/wagon looks great as does the interior and I really like the steering wheel. Unfortunately, it will have the Kia/Hyundai 2.0 liter engine and its many problems and that's a deal breaker. No way.
It's crazy to me to move from physical climate controls to streamline the look of the interior, yet still keep the traditional shift lever. I feel like shift buttons or knobs should be as standard as a backup camera at this point. It frees up so much space and REALLY cleans up the look of an interior. Then if you want that "sporty feel" of a semi-automatic gearbox, then they need to add paddle shifters because no one seems to use the lever for shifting anyway.
It's not a wagon it's a hatchback !! And this car needs to be the GT version of the K4 with a 2.0 LT engine turbo charged at least 250 HP and 260 lbs of torque AWD with LSD in all the tires and it will be a killer competitor !!!
I absolutely love when carmakers go for daring designs. I hate how stale the market had gotten. Like iPhones 😅 I am a ride or die for Apple but where’s the fun?
The C pillar is really busy. I’d rather have a cyber truck hidden button to pop the door if you’re gonna try to hide a handle. I’d like to see them both in person if I were choosing and in multiple colors cause I think that could help the four-door. CVT👎🏼8 Speed Paddle Shifters👍🏼if it’s good. 9:52
I'm really looking forward to the wagon. You get a lot more practical usable space in the same size car as the sedan. The design overall looks great, though I'm really not sure about the rear end. The details on the rear bumper look lumpy and weird. Like a bunch of unnecessary black bits that don't need to be there. Something about the positioning of the tail lamps also looks off to me relative to the little protruding lip above the taillamp bar. I can't wait to check this car out in person!
Want Factor: Off the Charts! Hope the load floor is long enough to accommodate concert grand harp. Put the turbocharged 2L with the wet dual-clutch transmission from the 22/23 Hyundai Kona in this thing and I'd put my deposit down today.
the sedan’s side starting to look weird starting the rear door, looks like the unbalance look of the Honda’s Clarity. It’s like merging 2 vehicles with the seam at the c-pillar. 5-door looks much better.
Hopefully they deliver on a hatchback. They said the Forte5 was coming. It's good to know the 2.0 GT Line is getting a rear multilink. I would have bought that instead of the 1.6T.
I wonder if they’ll ever make a full on K4 GT with something like the Elantra N in their powertrain lineup. Would be amazing to see in the wagon model 👀
Sub compact sedan that looks like a crossover. Not sold on the sedan design. Interior looks good. Less power and an automatic replaces the dct? The hatchback looks much better.
Leave it to Kia to remain one of the few remaining options for entry level buyers.
Corolla, impreza... ever hear of them. Neither of those depreciate like a kia does
@@Hallowsaw There is more to a car than resale value. Or at least there is to some people.
If resale value is all you care about, go for it 😂 some of us actually want NICE vehicles.@@Hallowsaw
@@Hallowsawnice try
@@SgawCules Exactly. You don’t buy a vehicle for an investment. Kills me how some people still think like that.
the wagon is what we want
I have a mazda 3 hatch and never been happier bc i use it to store things and especially when I drive long distance, able to have everything packed in the trunk. I can never get a sedan unless I get my dads Stinger somehow lol. But, the next vehicle I want is a wagon and that is limited to Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Volvo and a majority of them are ev's..... The second I found out Kia is making a wagon, my mind is blown!!!
Though, I am curious there is no wiper for the rear?
Mini clubman owner here, I want to fire all the BMW execs right now for discontinuing the clubman
The rear wiperblade is tucked underneath the rear spoiler. As for the Mini Clubman, I agree 💯% on the planners getting pink slips.
@@saxkid6206 BMW needs to start over again as a whole. I am a purist so any vehicle from the 70s to 2011 [excluding the f60 , and the e65] were all good years for BMW. Now, the prestige has gone down entirely...Only way I'd get a BMW is if it is older. For now, the day Kia makes this wagon, I would be completely sold. We need more wagons and hatches.
@@BigWolf_87 it’s coming out soon so…
Hello, I am Korean. It's so sad that Kia's K4 is only sold in North America. I hope they sell it in Korea too. Thank you everyone for your interest in KIA.
Although I’m slightly disappointed that at least the hatch isn’t AWD, props to KIA for bringing the hatch back to life 👏
get subaru
the forte had a hatchback sold in Canada and Mexico
Slap good snow tires on it and use good driving skills, and you won't need AWD in northern US states.
I already want the K4, but the wagon just made me want it more. Especially as a dad I can claim practicality.
Wait the wagon will be sold in the US???
Screw them not honoring warranties, I NEED that wagon
I think so, must be produced in US and Mexico.
Hatchback is not a wrong wagon
It’s a hatch technically, but forte hatchbacks have always been in between wagons and hatchbacks imo, it’s almost a wagon
@dagoose. My 2018 Hyundai GT Sport is damn near a wagon, & the Forte5 currently being sold in Canada is a wagon by all means. This new K4 gets a 5" wheelbase increase so yea it'll definitely be more on the wagon side of size
@@_dmfd I have a 2013 forte5 it drives like one, and is as spacious as a wagon, just with slightly less cargo space than one.
So excited about the fact that the hatch is coming to the US market! Hands down the best looking hatchback right now in my opinion.
Honestly I think I just found my next car. 2025 K4 turbo Hatchback! I hope it has a power lift-gate. AWD would be nice too.
That wagon looks way better than the Corolla Cross for sure.
Different category
@@EchoAccord are they really?
It's hatchback !! Not a wagon
@@maoinc13 looks long enough to be wagon-ish
@@makatron That was initially my thought too, but the easy way to distinguish a wagon from a hatchback is by looking at the rear quarter area profile from the rear wheel back. Hatchbacks have a shortened rear overhang and a smaller rear quarter window or no rear quarter window in the cargo area. Wagons tend to be the same length as the sedan they're based on, with a similar longer rear overhang and a much larger rear quarter window in the cargo area.
Wagon every day!!!
Im still waiting for Toyota to offer ventilation seats on the Corolla. I probably will have to hold my breath for that day to happen. And it looks like we get a half pano roof on the K4. The Koreans are just taking innovation features to the next level. They have truly made the impossible, possible! I have to give credit where credit is due.
That's right
You won’t ever want a Toyota again. Hyundai Kia are the new Toyota
facts @@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Naveen, I own an Elantra. It's a 2017 limited model, but I still get compliments on my car. My neighbor thought it was an Audi at first. I remembered buying my car, I had to choose between Corolla and Elantra. The Toyota dealership was going to put me in a Corolla LE. I abruptly walked away because I told the Salesman that I don't do base model cars. And wouldn't give me a deal on the SE Corolla.. And then I went up the street to Hyundai. I was floored of the features my car has. I got memory seats on a compact car! That's wild to me. And, Hyundai gave me a better deal than Toyota. 7 years later, my car still drives like I 1st got it! NO MECHANICAL ISSUES and still under warranty. I am ready to upgrade. Now I don't know if I want to go with Hyundai or Kia. Their lineups are freaking amazing. I'm going to have a hard time choosing..lol
@@jraheemjefcoat429 good choice. Hyundais better than Toyota
That wagon design is crazy….
Plz Kia when u bring wagon next year make GT with manual with better engine. That holy design need GT for sure.
I have a feeling that since they're onlu announcing the GT-Line currently, that they'll eventually put out a full GT with the 2.0T from Hyundai's N
The GT will get the new 2.5t engine from the K5/Sonata like the next Elantra N probably with less power and handling (it's a GT after all). What kia have not mentioned in any of the K4 press release is a hybrid powertrain. We got the Prius, Corolla Cross, and Civic hybrid with more powerful powertrains, and the Korean Car Blog just just did an article stating that H/K is planning to build better hybrid powertrains with AWD for their compact sedans (K4/Elantra) and subcompact crossovers (Kona/Seltos/Niro). As for the n/a 1.6 hybrid, it could go into the Soul and Venue if they get a second generation.
@@_dmfdYES!
KIA and Hyundai always stand out different when it comes to design. I really do like this kia alot. Props to them.
Radical or eye catching designs that usually never age well.
@@John-kx3ng nah. Their designs are impressive. That can’t be said of some Japanese brands… cough cough Toyota Lexus cough cough
Design is a rather subjective thing. I think most of them in 3 to 5 years look odd.
Muh sharp edges and LEdZ n shieet
@@John-kx3ngStill much better than the Lexus. Their designs were always creepy.
Think this gonna be my next vehicle
Love me some wagons.
Never been a Kia/Hyundai fan but this could change that.
stop hating mazda fanboy.
Okay?
Forget sedan, we got WAGON!!!
The wagon is awesome!!!
Kirk, I am rolling out the welcome wagon for this very welcome wagon. K4 wagon today, Corolla wagon tomorrow!!!🥳🥳🥳🥳
100% Would love a late 90's corolla dx wagon w/stick. Black steelies and Bluetooth head unit as a daily.
@@bigprocrastinator Who wouldn't?
Wagon all the way for me, lovely.
I want the wagon, please with the awesome green interior
How about we get rid of midsize sedans and make them all midsize wagons
Why is it so difficult for many car companies to provide hybrid powertrains ? it's not new technology that's overly expensive.
It's not that simple to make a good, reliable and efficient hybrid system + to be profitable.
But at least they could put the Niro hybrid system in this K4.
I also got confused, cause Elantra have one isn’t it. Why k4 can’t have HeV ?
I heard Hyundai has the power of what parts are used for kia. The sonata came with the digital instrument panel, Hyundai didn't want kia to have it on the k5 cuz it would've eaten sonata sales. Same with hybrid power trains.
@@AlexNishi-hb2ne In other region, k5 used to have full lcd cluster
Kia or not I’m excited about the wagon version 😆 we need more wagons 🙌🏾
2:25 This is a 12-inch...this is a 12-inch...and this guy in the middle is a 5-inch, pretty freaking awesome😅
Really unfortunate that for such a unique and sporty looking car, they don't have a 200+ horsepower trim, and still no mention of a hybrid powertrain. It's a shame, because I love the design of the k4.
No need you’re gonna get pulled over by an officer ruining your day the minute you wanna have any fun or stuck in traffic. What are you gonna do with all that power? People drive like mad animals here in Florida and I’m simply cruising minding my own business chilling for a hot second over limit and pulled over and ticketed.
They have a 200+ HP GT manual option in the current generation. The Elantra N is on the same platform, and is well above that in power. It shouldn't be too unreasonable to assume they will continue with an Si competitor on the Kia side. They may still be deciding if it will be offered in the hatchback, sedan, or both (unlikely both).
The hatchback/wagon is definitely the star of the show. Looks amazing!! Especially in yellow.
These are great. Both are excellent updates and additions. While so many side by side comparisons in this segment go the Toyota/Honda/Mazda route, I don't think the K4 will be able to be ignored like Nissan usually is.
Those front amber drls are pretty sick looking!
For everyone wanting a hatchback hybrid, KIA already offers that: the Niro. Why no mention of the Niro? The is not that much more expensive.
The wagon looks ok, but I’m still on the fence about the rear end of the sedan model. Interior isn’t exciting either.
You're only excited on that cheap looking interior on that corolla? You need to book an VSP appointment now mrslowbus.
@@maga4813We’re talking about the K4 here, not the Corolla. Boy do you need brain exercise. Are you having dementia?
Wagon in GT Line will be amazing
Great design on a small wagon. Honda will need to step up their civic line to keep up, although, civic will have hybrid option. But, That wagon is great!!!
Can't wait to see that wagon come here. The Signia wagon is nice, but very expensive. So this would be a great option. Nice to see Kia making green interiors! So tired of black.
That hatchback looks good. I recently went into Hyundai and drove the Elantra N, but couldnt give up my Veloster N. If they made an Elantra N hatch I would have bought it. Something about the hot hatches thats just awesome.
Truly a phenomenal design 🥰 team KIA
I'd buy the wagon. I'd love to see it in a mint green or something to compliment the interior of the non GT model. Love the rear design it gives boxy hatchback that has a way stronger presence than other hatchbacks in the segment. Love the direction the brand is going in.
Thank you Kia for making vehicles I want to drive and afford, again can’t wait for that wagon !!!
I daily the last true hatchback that Hyundai/ Kia offered for the US which is a 2018 GT Sport (Hyundai) I've been driving it since 2020 & I absolutely love it, but the reliability has some short comings forsure. It has the 1.6T/ 7spd DCT although it puts out 201hp/ 195lbs torque opposed to the 190hp they usually give the 1.6T in its other iterations. That thing was $30k new & is absolutely jammed packed with features, esp for its time. Full glass panoramic sunroof, heated & ventilated real leather seats, wireless charger, Infinity sound system with a sub, rear AC vents, the autonomous driving suite which imo KDM offers some of the best in the industry, nice burbly dual exhausts, the list goes on & on, plus its pretty quick for what it is - 0-60 in about 6s flat with the DCT, but again reliability has definitely been hit or miss & Hyundai's warranty is great on paper, but actually getting them to warrant the warranty is a huge headache every. single. time. unfortunately. I was bummed that the Forte5 hatch didn't come to us, that thing is basically a wagon, which a wagon is the car I currently have on order - a 2024 Audi A4 Allroad Prestige Black Optics, I'm just waiting on it to arrive & then I'm passing my GT Sport onto my gf & eventually my son in a few years when he is old enough to drive. But man, cross shopping last year for another hatch or wagon was a huuuuge headache & I eventually settled on the A4 Allroad which does check all my boxes, but it is a shame that we either get sedans or CUVs 99% of the time anymore. This K4 hatch looks awesome & it supposedly has a 5" wheelbase increase which tbh will prob put it close to midsize for the sedan, & more of a wagon for the hatchback like is true for the Forte5 in Canada. Nice tho Kia that is awesome. Just wish they'd offer more full panoramic sunroofs like Hyundai does, that'd of tied this in nicely.
Another Kia home run!!
The HB/Wagon is a nice option most will pass up. Having owned a Forte GT, I am kinda disappointed Kia took 10HP off the K4 turbo engine. No DCT tranny either which I kinda enjoyed. Make a GT version of the HB with the 2.5T and I would most likely buy one and there are a few that would want a hot HB but sales will still be light. The sedan just looks weird. It's like they started to make a HB and then made a sedan. That reason alone would mean I would bypass it even if it was a GT. In fact, maybe I need to buy a 2024 Forte GT before the end of the year on closeout?
They need a Civic Si competitor. That sportback. Ugh.
Yes they need a Manual
Yup. Wagon. 100%
Hatchback will be unique car on the road; Like it.
The hatchback looks great 🎉
Hatchback looks cool, can't wait to see one for real.
Kia's design has always rocked the house, IMHO. This new K4 has just jumped to near the top of my list for test drives next year.
With the market showing hybrids are being far more sought after… and this is the ‘brother’ of the Elantra, why not offer a hybrid option!? I am with you, HUGE fan of hatch/wagons. Super happy to see someone actually investing back into them!
I've noticed in the Korean market that they get EVERYTHING! Which makes sense because that's where their cars are. My theory is that for the North American market, they don't want to step on each other toes with features between Hyundai and Kia. Some features we get on Hyundai will not be with Kia or vice versa. Maybe they will add a hybrid on a refresh model of the K4? It seems the Koreans listen to their customers if there is a demand for it.
They either being tight-lipped about the hybrid or they are waiting for us to scream our demands. I will go with the former.
I wouldn't be shocked if a Hybrid version was added in the next few years.
After buying a used Outback last year since it was one of the few wagon options in North America, all I can say is that I'd love to see the wagon version of the K4 in person... And if I fit in it nicely, and it has comfortable driving dynamics, I wouldn't mind leasing one.
I had a volvo v60, that had to trade-in when it started to give me issues in 2022. I miss that car... hopefully they keep the price in the mid 30s for the GT and I will 100% will get this once i had over my current car to my older daughter in 3 years! This is an amazing looking wagon! Love it
It will be mid to upper 20s
@@KirkKreifels You think? Looks way too nice for that price... But ill take it!
I wanted a Forte GT, but I'm glad I didn't get it. I NEED THAT HATCHBACK!
I was extremely excited for this return of a wagon until I saw the engine choices. Engine choices doesnt even change when you get a "GT" model lol
Will wait to see what the other manufacturers come out with.
Can’t believe you compared this to the Crown Signa. It couldn’t carry the Signas jock strap. Sure it has a 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty to cover replacing the engine after 60,000 miles. You have never reviewed a car without thinking it is the best car you have ever seen. I resubscribed just so I have the entertainment.
Awesome design. Typical KIA masterpiece as usual.
Imagine if they did a full K4 GT wagon that uses the drive train from Hyundais N devision. I'd buy one so fast!
Good job Kia. Too bad the market doesn't support a 3-door hatch with a manual. That would be a spiritual successor to my old 70 series Corolla SR5 Liftback. 😀 Kia, please keep this affordable!
Love the looks but too bad that beautiful green interior is only available on the EX models (per Autoblog). As for that wagon, way to go Kia. Think I'll wait another year for that one.
Back in the day, I had a kia Spectra5 SX (the wagon version of the Spectra, then the Spectra became the Forte, now we have the K4) It was my first kia, and it was a great car but super basic. It had a sunroof (a first for me) and the upgraded wheels. Seemed really well put together and I never had any issues with it. Then I upgraded after a few years to the Optima, when it got redesigned in 2011. I have been with the kia brand ever since. I've had Sportages, a hybrid Optima, and currently an Optima SX-L. I am really exited for the new hatch from kia!!
I drove the Seltos SX about a year ago and it has this 1.6 turbo 8 speed auto, it seemed plenty powerful enough.
Cannot wait for this to come out!
the wagon would be awesome if they offered a slightly larger engine. Make a hot hatch akin to the old Mazdaspeed 3-series cars. The hatch, to me, is the one to get - it just looks better and you get a larger trunk - win-win.
I personally daily a ct200h so it’s refreshing, seeing something that looks so alike to it, big fan!
If that wagon comes with three pedals, I'm buying it.
Don't hold your breath...
The side view of the sedan is homely - especially the odd part above the rear wheels and where the roof meets the side panel. The hatchback/wagon looks great as does the interior and I really like the steering wheel. Unfortunately, it will have the Kia/Hyundai 2.0 liter engine and its many problems and that's a deal breaker. No way.
It's crazy to me to move from physical climate controls to streamline the look of the interior, yet still keep the traditional shift lever. I feel like shift buttons or knobs should be as standard as a backup camera at this point. It frees up so much space and REALLY cleans up the look of an interior. Then if you want that "sporty feel" of a semi-automatic gearbox, then they need to add paddle shifters because no one seems to use the lever for shifting anyway.
Like the 5door hatchback. Performance, ride quality, interior cabin noise, pricing with option trim levels.
It's not a wagon it's a hatchback !! And this car needs to be the GT version of the K4 with a 2.0 LT engine turbo charged at least 250 HP and 260 lbs of torque AWD with LSD in all the tires and it will be a killer competitor !!!
I absolutely love when carmakers go for daring designs. I hate how stale the market had gotten. Like iPhones 😅 I am a ride or die for Apple but where’s the fun?
The new grill is nice! But i still love my Stinger 2018!
Why no hybrid?
The C pillar is really busy. I’d rather have a cyber truck hidden button to pop the door if you’re gonna try to hide a handle. I’d like to see them both in person if I were choosing and in multiple colors cause I think that could help the four-door. CVT👎🏼8 Speed Paddle Shifters👍🏼if it’s good. 9:52
Sedan looks odd to me, but the wagon is awesome. It’s weird for me to see 2 versions of a car and one be polarizing and the other beautiful.
I'm really looking forward to the wagon. You get a lot more practical usable space in the same size car as the sedan. The design overall looks great, though I'm really not sure about the rear end. The details on the rear bumper look lumpy and weird. Like a bunch of unnecessary black bits that don't need to be there. Something about the positioning of the tail lamps also looks off to me relative to the little protruding lip above the taillamp bar. I can't wait to check this car out in person!
I have a 2021 forte which I probably will trade off for the hatchback version of this k4 especially seeing as I have always wanted a forte 5 door
This is the gt line and comes with a 1.6 meaning the gt is going to come with a 2.0 turbo like the Elantra n.
love love the traditional shifter...plz dont make it to buttons.
Want Factor: Off the Charts! Hope the load floor is long enough to accommodate concert grand harp. Put the turbocharged 2L with the wet dual-clutch transmission from the 22/23 Hyundai Kona in this thing and I'd put my deposit down today.
Wagon design is great! But lets hope theyre holding more secrets like a 2.5T N model / manual.
the sedan’s side starting to look weird starting the rear door, looks like the unbalance look of the Honda’s Clarity. It’s like merging 2 vehicles with the seam at the c-pillar.
5-door looks much better.
I see a new TikTok challenge coming 😂😂😂😂
KiA bOyS 😂
@@mrgurulittle7000 and yet you're still showing jealous energy.
come up with a better trolling.
Speaking of the Crown Signia, any news on test drive?
April
Looking forward to it!!@@KirkKreifels
Hopefully they deliver on a hatchback. They said the Forte5 was coming. It's good to know the 2.0 GT Line is getting a rear multilink. I would have bought that instead of the 1.6T.
I wonder if they’ll ever make a full on K4 GT with something like the Elantra N in their powertrain lineup. Would be amazing to see in the wagon model 👀
how about wagon like subaru crosstrek where its sits higher and call it suv, for crash safety , bigger apperance etc
If Americans can’t afford larger vehicles, manufactures will need to make more practical small vehicles. Small station wagons are a logical choice.
Let’s hope so.
Remember that there were an Optima and K5 "Sportswagon" in Europe over the years.
If they make the hatchback with 300hp+ I’m buying
That quarter window area reminds me of the stinger. Paying homage 🫡🥲
Never regret about my 4th gen Mazda 3 hatchback. Still the best looking hatch on the market
I love my Gen3 Grand Touring in Manual
I don't care about Mazda.
Little bit of McD mustard will take care of trying to keep the white steering wheel white.
I wish this was available here in the UK. Damn shame
Funny, Kirk thinks that no hybrid is a bad thing. I think it's a good thing. I'm definitely all about the naturally aspirated engine with no CVT.
Lmao😂😂 Casuals and their KIA 😅
Yet here you are watching 😂
Kia and Hyundai on 🔥
I was really hoping for a hybrid or PHEV on that wagon, that would be sick.. but they have the Niro already, so I'd imagine that's why
Really wish we got the 2.5 liter
Sub compact sedan that looks like a crossover. Not sold on the sedan design. Interior looks good. Less power and an automatic replaces the dct? The hatchback looks much better.
I hope this will motivate Toyota to bring the Corolla Touring Sports Hybrid GR Sport from Europe.
Nah. When do European models ever make it to North America? Never.
A wagon? OMG ❤️
저도 모든차를 통틀어 이렇게 흥분되긴 첨이에요~!!
K4 wagon with 2L turbo from the Hyundai Ns and now we are talking