Ultimate Sora: Nair Loop Combo Advanced Guide [Controller Cam]

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  • @sakana8082
    @sakana8082 2 года назад +176

    Quick tip for those using pro controllers, if you set one of your shoulder or trigger buttons to jump and flick it into pressing X+A, you can perform an IDJ Nair way easier!

    • @bigbillbilly7
      @bigbillbilly7 2 года назад +10

      Lol aye man be my tutor.

    • @tyrenace6597
      @tyrenace6597 2 года назад +2

      Are pro controllers easier to do with then the gamecube pro controllers? It seems there is a little bit of a delay that is always there when trying to get the 2nd jump. You can't buffer with the bumper buttons on a gamecube pro controller. I always have an easier time, doing IDJs with tap jump on. It's the only input allowing me to buffer IDJs and not have wasted inputs. But It's a little bit uncomfortable to try and remember to, tap up on the stick, then press Y+A, then go back to the stick to drift as I'm pressing A again while fast falling.
      Maybe regular pro controllers have smaller bumper buttons so it's easier to get your finger off them quick enough so you can input another button.

    • @tyrenace6597
      @tyrenace6597 2 года назад

      Basically my problem is that, when it comes to the bumper buttons. You can get an idj neutral air way faster with Y(jump) - bumper button L(jump) - A(neutral air). But it doesn't work like that the other way around. bumper L(jump) - Y(jump) - A(neutral air). The Y press gets eaten by the bumper press. It's just the faster way is very unnatural, everyone always says to use the bumpers to jump but they don't even seem to work properly with the regular y and x buttons.

    • @tyrenace6597
      @tyrenace6597 2 года назад +3

      Ok, instead of using bumper L jump, I did ZL. Definitely works better, thank you. My idj neutral air is, Y + ZL + A. The L/R buttons are a lot stiffer then the ZL/ZR buttons.

    • @jordanmachuca6087
      @jordanmachuca6087 2 года назад +4

      Thank you so much dude, us pro controller players don’t get enough love

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 Год назад +22

    Cool now I can finally do one loop to up smash. That’s all I need

  • @AngelsandWolves1
    @AngelsandWolves1 2 года назад +44

    Thanks for the upload Trixx, I've been studying all of the Sora tech that I can find, and this is definitely useful.

    • @emilianogonzalez3049
      @emilianogonzalez3049 Год назад +1

      Ive been thinking making sora my name, u have any other videos to get to understand better the character

  • @gigaflare9710
    @gigaflare9710 2 года назад +21

    You have no idea how much the controller cam helps

  • @eltoro_ttv
    @eltoro_ttv Год назад +21

    I pretty much gave up on trying to do this loop. Respect to anyone who pulls this off

  • @NoName-zh1jz
    @NoName-zh1jz Год назад +15

    This combo is so difficult I just can’t anymore

  • @amaru1032
    @amaru1032 2 года назад +5

    Finally someone goes in depth

  • @plsbanforks
    @plsbanforks Год назад +3

    this is soooo helpful thanks!

  • @jacksonwhitfield9283
    @jacksonwhitfield9283 2 года назад +2

    When you slowed down the frames to show the inputs, it looked way to hype watching Sora fight like that in slow-mo XD

  • @jamo1774
    @jamo1774 2 года назад +8

    Damn this is hard af to get multiple in a row. Managed to get to first idj nair 2 ff down, but getting into a 2nd or 3rd is tough. Thx for the video tho, it helped me learn regular idj's which will not only be helpful here but some of my other characters as well.

  • @Treadsetter281
    @Treadsetter281 2 года назад +7

    This video was super helpful! Had to practice idj before the video which for me the easiest way with gbc was r trigger set to jump then x+r -> r+a which helped keep my short hop consistent. Probably not optimal but it's helping me learn the Nair2 ff.

  • @Rwtheking
    @Rwtheking 2 года назад +15

    I love how the last to characters have broken combo moves.

  • @splish_2
    @splish_2 2 года назад +5

    how do i fast fall after intial nair 1?? it doesnt fast fall consistently when flicking down on the analog stick and i have to do it like twice to fast fall

  • @errrcc
    @errrcc 2 года назад +5

    Dissss was firaga 🔥🔥🔥

  • @UTgohan
    @UTgohan 9 месяцев назад +1

    looks like you are pressing A then down on the joystick right after is that better then pressing A and down at the same time?

  • @ReconNarwhal
    @ReconNarwhal Год назад +3

    It’s so hard to get that drift between the nairs 😭

  • @ivanfeliciano1986
    @ivanfeliciano1986 2 года назад

    @Meta of Smash thank so much , i am Sad that i missed the premiere :(, but i am here now!

  • @tjknight
    @tjknight 2 года назад +4

    I have my right bumper and X set to jump, would R, X+A do it? (Essentially trying to input the nair with the buffered DJ) or would it be more consistent if everything was inputted sequentially like in the video? (A imputed after the 2 jump inputs)?

  • @shogant
    @shogant 2 года назад +6

    For IDJ, are you literally pressing Y twice? Or using a secondary jump button? What if you aren’t landing from another move and can’t buffer? Do you use different inputs?

    • @MetaOfSmash
      @MetaOfSmash  2 года назад +3

      Always use y twice. Always land from another move unless doing it out of shield. Which isn’t recommended

    • @shogant
      @shogant 2 года назад +2

      @@MetaOfSmash Thank you. Great content as usual.

    • @Reggicide
      @Reggicide 2 года назад

      @@MetaOfSmash doing it out of shield works. And so does IDJ fair as a hard punish.

  • @Jerricoking
    @Jerricoking 2 года назад +3

    Man this is incredibly hard for me lol

  • @chavito808
    @chavito808 2 года назад +9

    How do you setup the gamecube controller cam in OBS?

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover 2 года назад +31

    Zackray just won a major using primarily this move lol

    • @sonicloud7774
      @sonicloud7774 2 года назад +1

      Which one?

    • @fupalover
      @fupalover 2 года назад +4

      @@sonicloud7774 Kagabiri 5

    • @sonicloud7774
      @sonicloud7774 2 года назад +7

      @@fupalover Thank you. Zackray is taking Sora seriously now. Nice to see it. I hope his Sora's future is bright.

    • @A-Spoto
      @A-Spoto 2 года назад +2

      not really though. He used all of Sora's kit.

  • @cvids_
    @cvids_ 2 года назад +1

    nice guide! does this also work with the pro controller?
    when i do the jump right and attack, i feel like Sora doesn't get to the ground fast enough to do the idj and continue the loop

  • @jettbaran5028
    @jettbaran5028 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @cautiousraven5427
    @cautiousraven5427 2 года назад +2

    You said that you were going to break it down to steps but still just can't can someone help
    Edit: am very frustrated probably doesn't help im using joy cons with joy con drift
    There is no joy they just feel like a con
    Edit 2 : i don't even know if I'm doing the start right how would I even know

  • @stevez2158
    @stevez2158 2 года назад +7

    Great video, next time can you also show button maps for the normal pro controller? I personally dislike using gamecube controllers, and the layout confuses me a lot.

  • @SuperMarioInRealLife
    @SuperMarioInRealLife Год назад

    There’s no right or wrong way to IDJ. I play with the PS4 controller and use tap jump to do Sora Tech. Just be mindful that timing is key to certain weight classes but you’ll do just fine

  • @original_clone
    @original_clone 2 года назад +3

    I find it sad that nair one into nair two is not true on the combo counter- meaning frame one escape options work or this combo counter has reverted back to smash 4

    • @crackededge9351
      @crackededge9351 2 года назад +1

      The combo counter is poorly designed and often useless for determining the strength of a combo.

    • @jasonlobo2350
      @jasonlobo2350 2 года назад +1

      Considering only like 5 characters has 1 frame escape options its not bad

  • @cristiansilva9557
    @cristiansilva9557 2 года назад +3

    So is the double jump necessary before every nair2

  • @TheBserk
    @TheBserk 2 года назад +1

    I still don't understand..

  • @reglewd
    @reglewd 2 года назад

    im pretty sure they actually dont need IDJs if you hit the noopbox but im not sure

  • @mrturtle2170
    @mrturtle2170 Год назад

    What's the difference from doing IDJ noops and foops from nair or fair loops. Like It's so much easier to do nair and fair loops so why do IDJ loops?

  • @fwemp
    @fwemp 2 года назад

    Am I the only person having trouble doing trigger IDJs? I have jump on both my ZL and ZR buttons, but whenever I try to IDJ with them, it doesn't happen. Is my timing off?

  • @koloae9196
    @koloae9196 Год назад

    I don't understand how but every time I tried it , wolf always go behind me or I just can't hit wolf

  • @justinmajors7142
    @justinmajors7142 2 года назад +1

    Very new too smash and idk if I should used the macro or train the old fashioned way?

    • @MetaOfSmash
      @MetaOfSmash  2 года назад +2

      It depends on how much online you play. I find that the macro is much more consistent when battling lag

    • @justinmajors7142
      @justinmajors7142 2 года назад +1

      @@MetaOfSmash thanks definitely online haven’t played offline with anyone

  • @znyan1077
    @znyan1077 Год назад

    is there really no way to escape this? 💀💀💀

  • @postboy2242
    @postboy2242 Год назад

    If only when I buffered double jump it would actually do TWO JUMPS AND NOT ONE BO MATTER IF I PRESS THE BUTTON TWICE OR TEN OCTILLION TIMES

  • @williamhowes3010
    @williamhowes3010 2 года назад +1

    So jump before he lands and somehow he'll defy expectations. Got it 😂

  • @Succ64
    @Succ64 2 года назад

    Is there a way to do this with joycons? Probably not right

  • @byomayne
    @byomayne 2 года назад

    Trippin lol

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J 2 года назад

    Mashing double jump op

  • @A-Spoto
    @A-Spoto 2 года назад +2

    NO ONE can input an IDJ with only 1 jump button. And even if they could, they could not be consistent.
    For an IDJ to work, one needs to input 2 jumps in 4 frames with an attack while making sure there is at least 1 frame in between the two jump inputs. The ONLY feasible way to do this consistently is with 2 jump buttons, preferably a shoulder button as the second jump button.

    • @banthas8512
      @banthas8512 2 года назад +3

      I only use one shoulder button when doing IDJ, the buffet system really works in your favor here because you can input during the landing lag of nair for the first jump, which means getting a second one within the jumpsquat animation is way easier

    • @MetaOfSmash
      @MetaOfSmash  2 года назад +2

      Oh boy

  • @neki_7258
    @neki_7258 2 года назад

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @MrVibe-tx4rn
    @MrVibe-tx4rn 2 года назад +3

    “Sora IDJ combos are difficult”
    Peach:

  • @andreazhab
    @andreazhab 2 года назад

    Why do you need to IDJ in between the nairs? Nair loops can be done without DJ too

    • @jontylerlud
      @jontylerlud 2 года назад +1

      Don’t think it’s considered true when you do that though. Maybe with big characters like dk

    • @GoodNapGoodLife
      @GoodNapGoodLife 2 года назад

      @@jontylerlud what does IDJ do to make this true? Fewer start up frames on the Nair or something?

  • @HayateTsuki
    @HayateTsuki 2 года назад

    how do u fast fall ?

  • @yhokami5735
    @yhokami5735 2 года назад +1

    I tried doing something similar to this, but this makes my combo look like dog shit.

  • @fgcbird
    @fgcbird 2 года назад

    I’m still learning about idjs. Why does it work here where a short hop wouldn’t?

    • @Reggicide
      @Reggicide 2 года назад

      Because it’s easier for them to get out that way it keeps them at a lower level. And IDJ helps with getting those ending confirms like smash attacks and up B

    • @fgcbird
      @fgcbird 2 года назад

      @@Reggicide gotcha, I guess in my head I assumed idjs were mostly used to get to places above full hop range quickly but they seem to have more used than that. Very new so thank you for commenting!

    • @Reggicide
      @Reggicide 2 года назад

      @@fgcbird no problem!

  • @splish_2
    @splish_2 2 года назад

    how do you do this on the pro controller i cant get the IDJ to work

    • @thomasetile5037
      @thomasetile5037 2 года назад

      Just double tap fast on x to jump but with the second one tap you push A button

  • @BoyInBlack94
    @BoyInBlack94 2 года назад

    Does it work also with the joy cons?

    • @Chaotix1010
      @Chaotix1010 Год назад

      Why are you playing with JoyCons???

  • @YourMom-wi5to
    @YourMom-wi5to 2 года назад +2

    Y’all out here getting arthritis for this when it’s probably gunna get patched

    • @Greenietheotaku
      @Greenietheotaku 2 года назад +5

      Sakurai probably intended for this to happen so I doubt it's gonna be patched
      Besides this isn't an infinite combo

    • @YourMom-wi5to
      @YourMom-wi5to 2 года назад +1

      @@Greenietheotaku as far as if it was intended, probably not. But you do have a good point because pikachu and link loops didn’t get patched out either

  • @ShadeLRK
    @ShadeLRK 2 года назад

    What’s IDJ? Lol

  • @HokageKyubiNaruto
    @HokageKyubiNaruto 2 года назад

    Any pro controller tips? I set the triggers to jump but I can't do it 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @bigbillbilly7
      @bigbillbilly7 2 года назад

      I’m with you bro. I’m trying to figure this out

  • @WolfMoon351
    @WolfMoon351 2 года назад

    ….huh? =(

  • @DeVanMSX
    @DeVanMSX 2 года назад

    no hands/10

  • @phillipkinman8865
    @phillipkinman8865 2 года назад

    Nair loops aren't true but ok

  • @aureliomontoya8197
    @aureliomontoya8197 2 года назад

    All I see is sora sora sora sora players it's fucking annoying, still get busted by my falco tho.