Pre-Glitch Grind Winners Finals - KEN (Sonic) Vs. Kameme (Sora) Smash Ultimate Tournament

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024

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  • @ZacIRL
    @ZacIRL Год назад +165

    You don't know how many hours I sank into that boss fight on PS2 in 2006....

    • @JohnAbdielgonzalez-bl4xl
      @JohnAbdielgonzalez-bl4xl 7 месяцев назад +1

      My god I thought I was the only one 😢😢😢🎉🎉🎉 omg you get it

  • @JoshWunderlich
    @JoshWunderlich 2 года назад +76

    I want Nomura-level canon explanations for why Sora and Sephiroth are fighting to the death in some poor villager's town in the Animal Crossing universe

    • @lilsp2647
      @lilsp2647 2 года назад +22

      He forgot to add a sephiroth boss fight in kh3 so he said this would suffice instead

    • @linakorig9
      @linakorig9 2 года назад +15

      That's probably another part of Quadratum, you just watched the secret boss of KH IV XD

    • @xzxx1xzx
      @xzxx1xzx Год назад +8

      Darkness

    • @ハワスムスタファ
      @ハワスムスタファ 4 месяца назад +1

      "Good cove'gh'age"

  • @ExileOfSand
    @ExileOfSand 2 года назад +90

    Kameme's just pure fundamentals with Sora is beautiful, you can tell he hasn't fully optimized his combo routes yet and was dropping some nair timings. Damn imagine when he gets it all locked down!!

    • @WeaponExX
      @WeaponExX Год назад +7

      Sora is so nuanced…it isn’t easy….the nair has like three different hit boxes depending on which one hits changes what kind of combo you can even get.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +3

      @@WeaponExX Sora's nair 1, the singular most needlessly convoluted hitbox of the whole game.

    • @WeaponExX
      @WeaponExX Год назад +5

      @@N12015 i spent like 3 days trying to get this trick. I can only do the first part now. Idk how to double jump buffer

  • @houstonwelch4253
    @houstonwelch4253 2 года назад +266

    For anyone wondering, Sephiroth is one of Sora’s worst matchups. Sora struggles to get in against Seph. But Kameme made it look very even.

    • @EliMfGen
      @EliMfGen 2 года назад +34

      it's actually not that bad of a matchup. Sora can use projectiles to create a path and Seph has trouble getting around freezaga especially

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад +59

      @@EliMfGen Sora's projectiles are super laggy and Seph easily out ranges blizz

    • @EliMfGen
      @EliMfGen 2 года назад +6

      @@Substantial-hf1rm it's purely for spacing. and they're no more laggy than any of Sephiroth's ranged options. If soras play patiently then sephiroth's have trouble approaching. also Sephiroth dies from Sora's kill confirms early if you combo into up air, up b, or up smash since he's so light. that and sephiroth has more trouble getting off ledge against sora than people like to admit. As a sora main I love going up against sephiroths in bracket

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад +31

      @@EliMfGen I'm gonna have to disagree, Seph have a much easier time playing patient with his tilts and aerials zoning Sora out forcing him to commit to an approach. The range you wanna be in for Sora to use spells is the range Seph thrives in, and while Seph can out range at anytime Sora is gonna need to cycle through Thundaga because as a fellow Sora main you know that spell is garbage in neutral against good players.
      The most volatile part of the match up is Sora's counter shutting down octo slash on recovery, but it goes both ways because Seph's fair, bair, up air, down air spikes, and very own counter are annoyingly easy to land on Sora's slow floaty recovery.

    • @keyonfletcher5488
      @keyonfletcher5488 2 года назад +7

      True, sephiroth actually does body sora. Kameme is dope

  • @juliangarcia6824
    @juliangarcia6824 2 года назад +42

    It felt like sora was losing the whole set but still won in the end!

    • @SadDragonHours
      @SadDragonHours 2 года назад +7

      Plot armor

    • @KingLittleT
      @KingLittleT Год назад +5

      Spoiler. Rip.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +2

      First. Thank for the spoiler... Second, sounded like Kingdom Hearth to me, and a big reason why people play Smash Bros. to begin with.

  • @DistantKingdom
    @DistantKingdom 2 года назад +24

    his sora is cracked!

  • @wagashilover821
    @wagashilover821 2 года назад +51

    23:40の復帰が好きすぎて永久に見てられる

  • @SunGodNikaJoyBoy
    @SunGodNikaJoyBoy 4 месяца назад +4

    Great game from the both of them. I really thought Ken could've got away with spamming more smash attacks with Sephiroth because of how much safer they get during his Wing. Sora doesn't have the range to properly respond to super-armored smash attacks.

  • @ariesmith2594
    @ariesmith2594 2 года назад +14

    Me: Turns up volume*
    Future me: Mutes volume*

  • @rasamasala
    @rasamasala 2 года назад +9

    Good match. I think Ken could have mixed it up more on game 5. He started resorting to back airs which Sora was shield. And the tide of the battle was Sora pushing Sephiroth from each side of the stage.
    I think if Ken included more shadow flares into his mix ups, it would have atleast help push neutral into his favor a bit more

  • @supermike929
    @supermike929 2 года назад +26

    "knocks you out of your own move, hits you, then you die". i love this

  • @ABAgamer_
    @ABAgamer_ 2 года назад +16

    Just like the simulations!
    And by simulations, I mean the Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 Sephiroth boss fights.

  • @danielw.2456
    @danielw.2456 2 года назад +89

    Great game. Very grounded Sora.

    • @a5tr4l
      @a5tr4l 2 года назад +8

      Ironic since he’s such an aerial character

    • @danielw.2456
      @danielw.2456 2 года назад +5

      @@a5tr4l Lol, i see what you did there.

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 года назад +1

    3:18 crazy ass off the stage counter Sora did. 7:09 7:32 I love how kameme keeps stalling the ultra flare move at the edge

  • @Furnive
    @Furnive 2 года назад +5

    Like this match, great game!

  • @肩甲骨クラッシャー
    @肩甲骨クラッシャー 2 года назад +40

    ミェンミェン バナム
    スティーブ あcola
    セフィロス KEN
    ホムヒカ しゅーとん
    カズヤ てぃー
    ソラ かめめ
    DLC2強すぎる、、

    • @おきた-h3f
      @おきた-h3f 2 года назад +6

      @@tugushiro_ 草

    • @falel4804
      @falel4804 2 года назад +6

      @@tugushiro_ Leoもだろ笑笑

    • @youtober9329
      @youtober9329 2 года назад +2

      @@falel4804 草

    • @インフル-t2m
      @インフル-t2m 2 года назад +1

      ​@@tugushiro_ 知ってるか?キャラパワーに多少頼ってても勝った方が強いんやで

    • @添える草
      @添える草 2 года назад +4

      @@tugushiro_ 海外の上位勢だってDLC普通に使うし、勝つために堅実に立ち回っているプレイも学べる事多いはずなんだけどね。流石逆VIP様の言う事は一味違うなぁ

  • @SuperMarioT
    @SuperMarioT 2 года назад +4

    Holy fuck, Kameme's cracked w/ Sora, same fo Ken w/ Seph

  • @su9cp
    @su9cp 2 года назад +5

    Is this a Nairo vs Nakat reference?

  • @ashketchup7354
    @ashketchup7354 2 года назад +36

    Impressive Sora! I no longer miss Kameme Rockman.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад +21

      Rockman being changed to MegaMan is one of the few times I think a localized name is better than the original

    • @brumbpotungusstreams5814
      @brumbpotungusstreams5814 2 года назад +15

      Speak for yourself, I really miss Kamega Man

    • @videosofdeath99
      @videosofdeath99 2 года назад +5

      @@Substantial-hf1rm but you lost the pun of rock man and his sister roll, rock and roll

    • @mamotalemankoe3775
      @mamotalemankoe3775 2 года назад

      @@brumbpotungusstreams5814 Same here man, same here.

  • @TrevTheGinger
    @TrevTheGinger 2 года назад +4

    the commentator sounds like superkai64 geez

  • @dakripaez1254
    @dakripaez1254 Год назад +1

    Kameme such a master hero comeback, he unlocked ultrainstinct

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 года назад +9

    9:07 just beautiful

  • @gabutman6144
    @gabutman6144 2 года назад +4

    This is a very fun matchup

  • @protonjones54
    @protonjones54 2 года назад +10

    Actual gremlin commentator

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 Год назад +2

    3:18 crazy ass off the stage counter

  • @goldenboy_808
    @goldenboy_808 2 года назад +6

    LETS GO SORA

  • @andruyet2509
    @andruyet2509 2 года назад +2

    Omg Sora vs Sephiroth in KH II is canon

  • @Arc_TheAirPirate
    @Arc_TheAirPirate 7 месяцев назад

    Haven't watched yet, but I want them both to win, hate that there can be only one, want to see more Sora and Sephi success!!

  • @bonni4493
    @bonni4493 2 года назад +12

    Great gameplay from both players! Ken's Seph is so good! But he could of down aired that Sora several times though. Sora should struggle to come back to the stage vs Seph.

    • @MinKiu410
      @MinKiu410 2 года назад +10

      I believe if it was Nairo, he would d-air the hell outa Kameme

    • @bonni4493
      @bonni4493 2 года назад +7

      @@MinKiu410 Yeah Nairo is really good in that matchup. Down air and counter are deadly on Sora's recovery.

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 года назад +2

    18:15 that dodge tho

  • @ULTIMAFAX
    @ULTIMAFAX 21 день назад +1

    11:41 I understood that reference

  • @UmbraStarWolf
    @UmbraStarWolf 2 года назад +2

    Ken literally just f tilt and baired and people say Seph sucks

  • @alistairestamo1633
    @alistairestamo1633 2 года назад +20

    KH2 but PvP mode.

  • @denzelwright8475
    @denzelwright8475 5 месяцев назад

    I'll be honest, maybe Kameme didn't want to be seen doing bitch moves, but god gave Sora a counter. Its okay to use it to punish that long ass sword of Sephiroth's. If he wants spacing, let him suffer for it.

  • @TheMari0123
    @TheMari0123 2 года назад +9

    I had to mute the video 😒

  • @nexalord4059
    @nexalord4059 15 дней назад

    A.crossover inside another crossover...?

  • @Arc_TheAirPirate
    @Arc_TheAirPirate 7 месяцев назад +1

    Woah, this female commentator is absolutely on fire with her game knowledge, clear speed of delivery and situational awareness! Certainly more "hype" commentators out there, but I think she may honestly be my new favourite!! Could someone furnish me with a name? I'll look her up for more!

  • @Haurent
    @Haurent 2 года назад +1

    It's almost like Sora's pretty good and Kameme is even better

  • @darkdraconis
    @darkdraconis Год назад

    It's like the commentators lifes depend on kameme to win but they can't make it obvious

  • @thebasquez
    @thebasquez 2 года назад +10

    For anyone wondering, Sora is the best character and he has no bad match ups. Get good.

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri 2 года назад +4

    2 low to mid tier characters that are fan favorites. I like how sakurai and his stupid team fucked up fan favoritrs like Banjo, Seph and Sora. I think Steve was created the same way(maaaybe) but since they dont test shit, steve was lucky

    • @bonni4493
      @bonni4493 2 года назад +4

      I know right? Like why are the corniest characters the best in this game? We want the cool characters to be busted lol!

    • @mando76m
      @mando76m Год назад

      Wym low to mid? Sora is high A and Sephiroth is low S

    • @Azurald55
      @Azurald55 Год назад +1

      ​@@mando76mSephiroth is not S tier 😂

  • @renamamiya2279
    @renamamiya2279 27 дней назад

    I have trauma from Sephiroth on KH 1 & 2. ;-;

  • @su9cp
    @su9cp 2 года назад +7

    She can’t pronounce the R

  • @Eddycut
    @Eddycut 2 года назад +1

    Why can't I change resolution it's been an hour

  • @orlandorodriguez8270
    @orlandorodriguez8270 2 года назад

    Anyone know the commentators names?

  • @yuumizoomies
    @yuumizoomies 2 года назад +3

    11:45 among us hehe :3

    • @byatch_
      @byatch_ 8 месяцев назад

      heh i was looking for that comment

  • @stephensantiago5581
    @stephensantiago5581 2 года назад +4

    -Sephiroth kills by f-tilting at the edge
    -Me: he can't keep getting away with this!!

  • @JSS0822
    @JSS0822 2 года назад

    Even matchup

  • @zidemelee
    @zidemelee 2 года назад +11

    I have to mute this to watch

  • @mochaman29
    @mochaman29 Год назад

    That womans accent is simultaniously infuriating and satisfying

  • @MartuMishima
    @MartuMishima 11 месяцев назад

    Kameme is cooking

  • @marlonlam6959
    @marlonlam6959 2 года назад

    Going sonic was a big mistake. Ken seph is god mode. Fuck a matchup

    • @isaacr8250
      @isaacr8250 Год назад +1

      He had the lead. Plus they went 2 and 2 in that matchuo

  • @maou_ityan
    @maou_ityan 2 года назад +3

    裏ボス戦で草

  • @Kowalskinator
    @Kowalskinator 2 года назад +5

    that aint sonic

  • @DaveEntity
    @DaveEntity 8 месяцев назад

    Ken is so bad with sephiroth

  • @Catholic_skald
    @Catholic_skald 2 года назад +20

    Who thought it was a good idea to have a speech impaired person as a commentator??

    • @KingKabisi
      @KingKabisi 2 года назад +1

      It's a local so it's not that bad, but if we got em on gran finals or top 8/16 then there's an issue

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 2 года назад +1

      Hate to break it to you guys, but she will absolutely be commentating sets in the top brackets

    • @WoahSoSa
      @WoahSoSa 2 года назад +14

      I think it’s pretty dope

    • @christianokoye9491
      @christianokoye9491 2 года назад +14

      I can understand her pretty well, but you know, I understand English.

    • @Ethan-nl2wg
      @Ethan-nl2wg 2 года назад +15

      Idk I think it’s pretty cool, and it’s not like you couldn’t understand any of her words, I understood everything she said

  • @Combatgeek001
    @Combatgeek001 2 года назад +7

    commentator annoying asf

    • @10XSeiga
      @10XSeiga 2 года назад +1

      Hiring a commentator with a speech impediment is like hiring a blind person to critique a movie.

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 года назад

    Not 666 likes

  • @隕石を見つけた木村拓哉
    @隕石を見つけた木村拓哉 2 года назад

    love SORA

  • @deadpoolinthehouse
    @deadpoolinthehouse 2 года назад +9

    Why would they let someone with a speech impediment be a announcer? I say this as someone who grew up not being able to pronounce "r" and "sh". You can learn.

    • @tyhuetter5431
      @tyhuetter5431 2 года назад +8

      I understand where you're coming from a little bit, but some people cannot learn it due to misformation of their mouths and/or tongue. If you look it up, it is called a rhoticism, and it is very common. Many people cannot help it. If you really have that much of an issue with her, than you should also have an issue with anyone that has an accent different than American, because they also do not pronounce English in a "correct" way.

    • @paxing1281
      @paxing1281 2 года назад +7

      You can still understand what she is saying.
      Personally I like hearing her.

    • @peterpotts7482
      @peterpotts7482 2 года назад

      You're a weirdo for caring.

  • @牧瀬紅莉栖-j1o
    @牧瀬紅莉栖-j1o 2 года назад +3

    かめめとKENって仲悪いんだな

  • @風穴風穴風穴風穴風穴
    @風穴風穴風穴風穴風穴 2 года назад +25

    このマッチかめめさんレベルの実力あってもギリセフィロス有利なんじゃないかと思ってたから見れて嬉しい