I want to note that I installed new fuel rails at the same time, just so the truck had a new pressure sensor and regulator (price of the complete rails was close to the price of the sensor and regulator by itself). I also used brake cleaner spray and compressed air to carefully clean out all the high pressure fuel lines.
After watching your video I fired up Alfaobd and added "Fuel rail pressure target, Bar" and "Fuel rail pressure measured, Bar" to my list of monitored functions to see what I read. To note: I have no codes being thrown other than a P0128 from a thermostat that refuses to fully close. Anywho... My reading for the "target" is 319.167 and the "measured" reading is 326.078 at idle. When I rev the engine I have watched the readings go up to (roughly) 1014 or so. My Ecodiesel runs just fine, I was just curious where I was at and now I am wondering why my numbers are different. Is it something to do with the 'psi' on your Autel scanner and the 'Bar' on my Alfaobd scanner? Great video by the way!
Thank you for the speedy response. I reviewed your video on a bigger screen and see a coppery colored bulge on the end of the line like a ferrule. You stated you replaced the rail but reused the connecting line. Im assuming they all use a similar joint. Its a mystery to me what this crush washer thing theyre talking about. There is no doubt about the cloud of diesel mist, a little honesty by them would be nice. They kept my truck for 36 hours waiting for some "washers" they ordered. Thanks for your time, you seem like a straight shooter.
@@michaelnash1676 I just can’t imagine what they are referring to. I can’t help but think they are BS’ing you. I really think it’s as simple as tightening up the nuts on the injection lines that were disturbed. Or undoing them, and reseating them and tightening the nuts. Also, you are correct, in this video I reused all of the fuel lines. Had no problems or issues from this. Hope you get it square away, but it does sounds minor. I would deal with it asap though, given the extreme pressure in those lines.
Mine is at the dealer right now for recall on that pump. They have been telling me for a year that none were available ,interesting to see it's a Bosch. Thanks
@@stevenberg1903 it was on a back order for the longest time. But hey, if you’re getting a new, high dollar injection pump installed for free, that’s great!
@@stevenberg1903 very nice. Just from my experience over several Ecodiesels, consider pre-emptively replacing the lift pump around 150k or so. All of the ones I’ve replaced had between 140k-190k miles before they died.
Hey I have a question for ya, great video by the way!….so replaced mine, now it’s throwing code that fuel pressure too high on fuel rails, do you know if I need to bleed my fuel system or something?…or why it’s throwing that code?…my pump just went out, it didn’t do the spinning metal shavings or anything like that, everything still clean in the lines and stuff?
@@terrypeace3940 thanks for the kind words. Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already. I’ve been there with that high pressure code. More often than not, it’s air that is trapped in the rails - sometimes some spirited acceleration runs and constant clearing of the code via a scan tool will make it go away permanently. On some trucks, it’s tough to get rid of. I know of one truck personally that has had that code for 50k miles with no issue. Better to have high rail pressure than low. Shouldn’t cause any driveability issues from my experience. But do some spirited acceleration runs, constant test driving, and clear the codes a few time as necessary. Eventually, with any luck, it will not come back.
How is the truck running? My big question is the gear. Does it need to be pressed on? Or can that nut press it on? And thank you so much for the video. I have a cpx looking at me on an r&r.
@@bluesteeljay9343 sorry I didn’t respond sooner. No, the nut draws the gear down onto the shaft. Truck ran and still runs fine. Thanks for the kk d words!
Good day, my dealer completed the high pressure pump recall and had issues with clouds of diesel mist coming out around the hood. After attempting to correct several times it was decided the crush washers had to be replaced. I'm assuming they are on the lines that go to the rails. When I park at night I still see mist coming out around the headlights and have smelled diesel fuel since the initial replacement. They are going to attempt another repair with new washers. I'm wondering if I need a new dealer. What are your thoughts , experience with this issue?
@@michaelnash1676 crush washers? I’m not aware of any associated with the high pressure fuel system. Just simple flare fittings. The mechanic hasn’t tightened down the line properly. Very, very carefully observe where it is coming from with the engine idling. If there are any loose fittings, and I’m sure there are, tighten with 19mm or 3/4” wrench. But yes, find a different dealership or a private diesel shop.
Hello and thank you for your very good video, I had a recall on my truck for the fuel pump they changed the pump and since then they consume more fuel about 2 to 3 liters more per 100 km can you tell me what the problem is thank's
@@clagagne thanks for the kind words. That is an interesting problem, and I don’t really have an answer for it. I could only imagine their calibration/programming is different from what it was and causing the increased fuel consumption, or maybe it’s possible that coincidentally your DPF is becoming restrictive and choking the engine a little bit. Just ideas, but I’m only speculating.
Hi,I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the ecodiesel..my car just stopped, codes p0087 and p016f..rail pressure low and closed loop fuel pressure control low. The low pressure pump delivers 60psi, rail has only 800psi.I checked the injector return flow and pressure regulator on the rail,ok. Looks like the high pressure pump?? Right? The high pressure pump is new replaced from the dealer,did only 4000k's,I checked the solenoid on the pump looks fine. Any ideas would be much appreciated.. thanks ivo
@@ivoschaedle1274 how did you go about checking the fuel pressure regulator on the rail? From what you’ve described so far, I can only imagine it’s the injection pump….but please give me more details if you can.
@@tadsworkshop Thanks..I checked the pressure regulator.Took the return line from the rail off,while I crank there is only for a second a small amount of fuel flowing back and then stops..so that works fine.
@@ivoschaedle1274 I see. That all sounds good. I can’t imagine the new injection pump being defective, but anything is possible. You might try replacing the regulator and/or pressure sensor at this point. Please let me know what you find out, I’d like to learn from your experience.
My 2015 is deleted so having any work or recalls done at the dealership is always a battle! I’ve been able to do most of the repairs myself with the help of your videos and tips!
@@seancota5454 that’s awesome, so glad to hear that. It’s amazing how consistently poor the service is from any dealer regarding the ecodiesel. The more you can do yourself, the better. Appreciate your comments.
My dealer is replacing the HPFP under warranty after a crank no start issue. They didn’t mention replacing the injectors though. Should I be concerned for metal fragments traveling into the injectors and possibly engine
@@richdelgzz in my opinion and experience, no. An injector failing due to metallic debris from the injection pump tearing itself apart is very uncommon. Again, my experience. Let’s just hope they are correct with their diagnosis. The two other most common reasons for a crank, no start, is crankshaft sensor reluctor wheel, and lift pump in fuel tank. I would hope they checked fuel pressure in between lift pump and injection pump and scoped out the crank sensor signal.
Thanks Ed. The last leg bit just reflects the owners mentality with the truck, as it has some severe damage to the rear frame from an accident, coupled with some unusually bad rust/corrosion. Drivetrain is still solid, with the exception of a pinion bearing noise. Truck may be a parts donor in years to come.
@@edtaylor3409 for what it’s worth, the highest mileage truck I’ve seen in person had 271k on it. I’ve seen evidence online of other trucks above 300k. I was curious about the transmission, so I asked the guy about his 271k truck, and he said he had never bothered to change the filter and fluid. So that’s a testament to how good the ZF 8 speed is.
@@tadsworkshop I've been debating on doing that... The old-school mentality is that if you missed the maintenance window it's best to leave it. I'm not sure if I'd help or hurt the transmission at this point if I did it.
Maybe you can help ! I followed this video. I replaced the hpfp. And the lift pump is pushing 65+psi to the hpfp. However I’m only receiving 1200 cranking fuel pressure
It’s cranks but won’t start. I have verified the crank sensor and wheel are good. It will run with a little starter fluid. Doing so set a p016f code. Can’t figure out why it’s only getting 1200 psi. The pump is a oe replacement (new) not a reman
@@jakedobson790 I will do some homework tomorrow (look at some factory service information) and try to give you some helpful advice. You definitely need at least 3500 psi or so to start.
@@jakedobson790 have you tried disconnecting the fuel quantity solenoid on the injection pump? It should default to maximum pressure when you do. Let me know if you have any updates on this truck.
I want to note that I installed new fuel rails at the same time, just so the truck had a new pressure sensor and regulator (price of the complete rails was close to the price of the sensor and regulator by itself). I also used brake cleaner spray and compressed air to carefully clean out all the high pressure fuel lines.
Just turned mine in for the recall. This video is gold, thank you
Great video. My dealer is still waiting for that part , maybe one day ,four months in.
Love your videos keep 'em coming greetings from DownUnder.
I appreciate that Len, thank you!
After watching your video I fired up Alfaobd and added "Fuel rail pressure target, Bar" and "Fuel rail pressure measured, Bar" to my list of monitored functions to see what I read. To note: I have no codes being thrown other than a P0128 from a thermostat that refuses to fully close. Anywho... My reading for the "target" is 319.167 and the "measured" reading is 326.078 at idle. When I rev the engine I have watched the readings go up to (roughly) 1014 or so. My Ecodiesel runs just fine, I was just curious where I was at and now I am wondering why my numbers are different. Is it something to do with the 'psi' on your Autel scanner and the 'Bar' on my Alfaobd scanner?
Great video by the way!
Thank you for the speedy response. I reviewed your video on a bigger screen and see a coppery colored bulge on the end of the line like a ferrule. You stated you replaced the rail but reused the connecting line. Im assuming they all use a similar joint. Its a mystery to me what this crush washer thing theyre talking about. There is no doubt about the cloud of diesel mist, a little honesty by them would be nice. They kept my truck for 36 hours waiting for some "washers" they ordered. Thanks for your time, you seem like a straight shooter.
@@michaelnash1676 I just can’t imagine what they are referring to. I can’t help but think they are BS’ing you. I really think it’s as simple as tightening up the nuts on the injection lines that were disturbed. Or undoing them, and reseating them and tightening the nuts. Also, you are correct, in this video I reused all of the fuel lines. Had no problems or issues from this. Hope you get it square away, but it does sounds minor. I would deal with it asap though, given the extreme pressure in those lines.
@@tadsworkshop thanks
Mine is at the dealer right now for recall on that pump.
They have been telling me for a year that none were available ,interesting to see it's a Bosch.
Thanks
@@stevenberg1903 it was on a back order for the longest time. But hey, if you’re getting a new, high dollar injection pump installed for free, that’s great!
@@tadsworkshop 2015,101k.
Clean as a whistle compared to this one. Original owner.👍
@@stevenberg1903 very nice. Just from my experience over several Ecodiesels, consider pre-emptively replacing the lift pump around 150k or so. All of the ones I’ve replaced had between 140k-190k miles before they died.
@@tadsworkshop thanks, If I was anywhere near you I would be calling for an appointment 😎.
Keep up the work👍👍
@@tadsworkshopi got 211 miles on mine.😊 Its a noisy little pump.
Hey I have a question for ya, great video by the way!….so replaced mine, now it’s throwing code that fuel pressure too high on fuel rails, do you know if I need to bleed my fuel system or something?…or why it’s throwing that code?…my pump just went out, it didn’t do the spinning metal shavings or anything like that, everything still clean in the lines and stuff?
@@terrypeace3940 thanks for the kind words. Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already. I’ve been there with that high pressure code. More often than not, it’s air that is trapped in the rails - sometimes some spirited acceleration runs and constant clearing of the code via a scan tool will make it go away permanently. On some trucks, it’s tough to get rid of. I know of one truck personally that has had that code for 50k miles with no issue. Better to have high rail pressure than low. Shouldn’t cause any driveability issues from my experience. But do some spirited acceleration runs, constant test driving, and clear the codes a few time as necessary. Eventually, with any luck, it will not come back.
How is the truck running? My big question is the gear. Does it need to be pressed on? Or can that nut press it on? And thank you so much for the video. I have a cpx looking at me on an r&r.
@@bluesteeljay9343 sorry I didn’t respond sooner. No, the nut draws the gear down onto the shaft. Truck ran and still runs fine. Thanks for the kk d words!
Good day, my dealer completed the high pressure pump recall and had issues with clouds of diesel mist coming out around the hood. After attempting to correct several times it was decided the crush washers had to be replaced. I'm assuming they are on the lines that go to the rails. When I park at night I still see mist coming out around the headlights and have smelled diesel fuel since the initial replacement. They are going to attempt another repair with new washers. I'm wondering if I need a new dealer. What are your thoughts , experience with this issue?
@@michaelnash1676 crush washers? I’m not aware of any associated with the high pressure fuel system. Just simple flare fittings. The mechanic hasn’t tightened down the line properly. Very, very carefully observe where it is coming from with the engine idling. If there are any loose fittings, and I’m sure there are, tighten with 19mm or 3/4” wrench. But yes, find a different dealership or a private diesel shop.
Hello and thank you for your very good video, I had a recall on my truck for the fuel pump they changed the pump and since then they consume more fuel about 2 to 3 liters more per 100 km can you tell me what the problem is thank's
@@clagagne thanks for the kind words. That is an interesting problem, and I don’t really have an answer for it. I could only imagine their calibration/programming is different from what it was and causing the increased fuel consumption, or maybe it’s possible that coincidentally your DPF is becoming restrictive and choking the engine a little bit. Just ideas, but I’m only speculating.
@@tadsworkshop Thank's I will check to see if there is no dpf restriction thank you for your advice much appreciated.
I just replaced my HP pump (with the help of your video) but now I'm idling at 1500 RPM any idea why this would be?
I had i recall on the fuel pressor pump , they change it and it runs much better.
Hi,I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the ecodiesel..my car just stopped, codes p0087 and p016f..rail pressure low and closed loop fuel pressure control low.
The low pressure pump delivers 60psi, rail has only 800psi.I checked the injector return flow and pressure regulator on the rail,ok.
Looks like the high pressure pump?? Right?
The high pressure pump is new replaced from the dealer,did only 4000k's,I checked the solenoid on the pump looks fine.
Any ideas would be much appreciated.. thanks ivo
@@ivoschaedle1274 how did you go about checking the fuel pressure regulator on the rail? From what you’ve described so far, I can only imagine it’s the injection pump….but please give me more details if you can.
@@tadsworkshop Thanks..I checked the pressure regulator.Took the return line from the rail off,while I crank there is only for a second a small amount of fuel flowing back and then stops..so that works fine.
@@ivoschaedle1274 I see. That all sounds good. I can’t imagine the new injection pump being defective, but anything is possible. You might try replacing the regulator and/or pressure sensor at this point. Please let me know what you find out, I’d like to learn from your experience.
Awesome video! Great info!
Much appreciated, thanks Sean!
My 2015 is deleted so having any work or recalls done at the dealership is always a battle! I’ve been able to do most of the repairs myself with the help of your videos and tips!
@@seancota5454 that’s awesome, so glad to hear that. It’s amazing how consistently poor the service is from any dealer regarding the ecodiesel. The more you can do yourself, the better. Appreciate your comments.
Thank you!!
My dealer is replacing the HPFP under warranty after a crank no start issue. They didn’t mention replacing the injectors though. Should I be concerned for metal fragments traveling into the injectors and possibly engine
@@richdelgzz in my opinion and experience, no. An injector failing due to metallic debris from the injection pump tearing itself apart is very uncommon. Again, my experience. Let’s just hope they are correct with their diagnosis. The two other most common reasons for a crank, no start, is crankshaft sensor reluctor wheel, and lift pump in fuel tank. I would hope they checked fuel pressure in between lift pump and injection pump and scoped out the crank sensor signal.
@@tadsworkshop Thanks!
Hi i replace it and my injector and still pressure 140 at running @@tadsworkshop
i'm curious if you have alot of experience with these engines. I have a 2014 full delete that I need help with!. Where is your shop?
Michigan.
Why is this truck on its last leg?
Great video these are super hard to find for the ECO D.
Thanks Ed. The last leg bit just reflects the owners mentality with the truck, as it has some severe damage to the rear frame from an accident, coupled with some unusually bad rust/corrosion. Drivetrain is still solid, with the exception of a pinion bearing noise. Truck may be a parts donor in years to come.
@@tadsworkshop Oh good! My truck has 204,000 and is my daily. I fully expect to put a new motor in it someday I'm just hoping not soon.
@@edtaylor3409 for what it’s worth, the highest mileage truck I’ve seen in person had 271k on it. I’ve seen evidence online of other trucks above 300k. I was curious about the transmission, so I asked the guy about his 271k truck, and he said he had never bothered to change the filter and fluid. So that’s a testament to how good the ZF 8 speed is.
@@tadsworkshop I've been debating on doing that... The old-school mentality is that if you missed the maintenance window it's best to leave it. I'm not sure if I'd help or hurt the transmission at this point if I did it.
Maybe you can help ! I followed this video. I replaced the hpfp. And the lift pump is pushing 65+psi to the hpfp. However I’m only receiving 1200 cranking fuel pressure
It’s cranks but won’t start. I have verified the crank sensor and wheel are good. It will run with a little starter fluid. Doing so set a p016f code. Can’t figure out why it’s only getting 1200 psi. The pump is a oe replacement (new) not a reman
@@jakedobson790 I will do some homework tomorrow (look at some factory service information) and try to give you some helpful advice. You definitely need at least 3500 psi or so to start.
@@jakedobson790 have you tried disconnecting the fuel quantity solenoid on the injection pump? It should default to maximum pressure when you do. Let me know if you have any updates on this truck.
Yrah my pump is noisy grindy for some reason.