Having an m1 Mac I was looking forward a second laptop with windows. X1 carbon 7th gen bought it as beare at 400 dollars and exceeded my expectations. Amazing thinkpad quality, worth definitely with that amount of money . Thank you for your review
Liquid Metal it, takes care of all throttle issues. Mine use to hover at 50-60c idle, now it sits at 30-40c, benchmarks use to hit 100 all the time, now it does around 80c under full load. Well worth the upgrade.
Im watching this on an old thinkpad x230 (i5 3320m) and it cost me $150 a year ago.. I see nothing here to justify spending $1500 on this as an upgrade to mine. That kind of money can get you the upper-tier laptops and pcs these days that absolutely blow this out of the water in every regard. Lenovo can contact me when they're selling this at a reasonable price... about $350...lol
That’s the thing with these. First, they go to companies, and then they become attractive machines on the 2nd hand market. Getting one of these new as a consumer makes less sense. My X301 is still holding up well.
It's extremely lightweight and stuffs away in baggage very easily with a long battery life. I spent most of my days in a Linux terminal and will run Fedora on it (when I get it next week), so perhaps we all have different needs. Looking forward to getting away from a Mac and into something a bit more customizable, as well as closer to what I build on for work (CentOS).
laptops nowadays are just to expensive. I bought a Samsung laptop with a i5 3320m with 4gb ram from ebay 3 years ago for $90 and it has never given me a problem. All i did was upgrade the HDD it came with with a SSD from Micro Center for about $20 and it is extremely fast. boot is about 6 secs and all programs open instantly. I can run several chrome tabs without the laptop lagging on me. I dont play video games so gaming is not an issue for me but for $90 and $20 SSD I am very satisfied. Spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on laptops just doesn't make sense.
@@Sheepy007 yeah thats how used products work. Not everyone needs to get a new device. There are better deals with used products that people can get. My laptop is quite comparable with the newer laptops at a fraction of a price.
The P1 is the best in the Thinkpad line for Enterprise.....it has all the things missing in the x1 carbon including a better thermal solution of two fans,updatable, with no complaints spected with a i5 and FHD screen. Battery life is always a problem with any thin and light with high specs. Zeon users should consider the docking solution for maximum power output. Software does limit full capability unless you have it plugged in which is sensible. Have not tried it with Enterprise oios or linux yet. Several updates to firmware have given the battery a longer time envelope. Probably the best you can get in this category at this time.. The biggest chritisium on lenovo is that they will not factory install third party software for visually impaired employees. Unless the chineese start to fit in with the EU and UK markets on disability, they will continue to loose market share in Europe. Interested if in the future if you could spec linux and AMD.
I love my X1 Carbon 4th gen but I'm holding off until they offer something with an AMD CPU in it. I feel like an Ultrabook would benefit greatly from the Vega GPU in the AMD APUs. After lugging around a 3-4lbs laptop for years I will only buy Ultrabooks now and thanks for Lenovo's awesome quality, value, and support I'll be sticking with Lenovo going forward (prior to my X1 all of my laptops since high school were HP which I always liked, but Lenovo is just above and beyond).
@@flips2infinity772 It's still working great with no hardware or software issues and I still use mine when I travel and around the house. The battery life isn't as good as it used to be but for a nearly 4 year old laptop that's to be expected.
Really like your format of reviews and the quick guide to topics in the description. Can you review the HP ENVY 13 2019, looks like a pseudo premium budget Ultrabook!
No, it definitely is overpriced by a wide margin considering its dated and limited hardware, as well as its inconsistent performance on sustained loads. At such a price point you'd expect a more recent CPU, even if it's only an i5 (which outperform i7s from the previous gen anyway), paired with a discreet GPU. Soldered RAM is a bummer as well. It only has decent i/o and that sleek look going for it.
@@shiningyrlife No this is for technical reasons. On an ultrabook you have to save space and heat generation as much as you can. It's for $$ reasons on an 17" Asus entry level laptops tough.
Just bought a 4K version on ebay. Great price and screen is amazing. Depends on what you want to use it for. My main use is trading and the extra definition is a huge benefit.
hi, is it easy to switch between the intel and nvidia graphics card in ubuntu. i have the thinkpad p53 rtx5000 but want to switch to ubuntu and wondering if it will work. Thanks
You are suggesting that it's not good for Video Editing or other sustained processing tasks. How would this laptop fair for graphic design and audio production?
The cooling is not great, so it's not good for high cpu load in professional photo and audio works And I don't think the color range of the display is suitable for professional image editing.
Idk if you already chose a laptop, but I too am in the same position and from all my research the gen 7 is better. In terms of performance the gen 8 because it had the newer generation processor but I believe that’s it which in my opinion is very negligible considering it’s just a year newer processor. Everything else is the same. It’s like buying a 2019 Honda Accord vs a 2020. Same exact car just the gen 7 will cost you less money.
Thanks for the review. I think the keyboard is world class luxury. Does anyone know of a similar PC keyboard. I am looking to replicate the feel of the Lenovo X1 keyboard.
$1400-1500 USD? For only 256GB SSD DDR3 ram, only 1080p, tell him he's dreamin'... Much better off going with a cheaper vastly more capable y540. Sure it's gonna be a little heavier, but if portability/size/weight was a concern you would buy a UMPC.
Don't forget build quality, Thinkpad are built like tanks. These are meant to last. Also, It's important to note how much RAM you get for the price. And finally, 1400-1500 might be the listing price, but that's not the price for which you will buy them. They are almost always on sale, hence much cheaper.
The port you called the "network port" isn't. It's an expanded usb c. Try it. you'll see you have TWO USB-C port with one having an extra functionality
For coding, it is great device thanks to the keyboard but the catch is the screen is 16:9, i would appreciate 3:2 or 16:10. I am not sure about data science as I am not sure how much power does it require!
...DDR 3? In a 2019 i5 powered PC? That's absolutely inexcusable. Especially for that price. Heck, I've seen some Atom-like devices that had DDR 4, for goodness sake. No, this is a solid pass. That Thunderbolt, coupled with an eGPU, seems like a bad idea. So disappointed.
@@KinnArchimedes Are you kidding me? X1 Carbon is NOT meant for gaming. You are much better of buying a gaming laptop with RTX 2060 than gaming on Intel graphics.
@@KinnArchimedes Gaming laptop won't be as thin and light. And business people are NOT going to carry a gaming laptop for client meeting. End of the story.
I do like Lenovo product, but the fact that in the model you are showing you cannot upgrade de RAM and that it comes with an old generation of an Intel processor for a relatively high price, I may search for other alternatives. Also, it comes with Windows 😔.
I was considering the variant with a UHD display and 1tb memory for use at work. How much worse off (hours lesser?) should i expect the battery performance to be vs the 1080 display?
Then don't buy ultraportable machines. You can still buy T- and P-series machines that have upgradable RAM. For those people who need an portable machine, an ultrabook like this is just fine.
Best one I ever had
I have the i7 1080, and it surprisingly had almost no issue with Illustrator, I'm really pleased
Having an m1 Mac I was looking forward a second laptop with windows. X1 carbon 7th gen bought it as beare at 400 dollars and exceeded my expectations. Amazing thinkpad quality, worth definitely with that amount of money . Thank you for your review
Liquid Metal it, takes care of all throttle issues. Mine use to hover at 50-60c idle, now it sits at 30-40c, benchmarks use to hit 100 all the time, now it does around 80c under full load. Well worth the upgrade.
Kudos for including Linux comments.
Yes. Very nice. And relevant.
The only issue with this laptop is the screen aspect ratio it should be replaced with a taller screen like 3:2
Im watching this on an old thinkpad x230 (i5 3320m) and it cost me $150 a year ago..
I see nothing here to justify spending $1500 on this as an upgrade to mine.
That kind of money can get you the upper-tier laptops and pcs these days that absolutely blow this out of the water in every regard.
Lenovo can contact me when they're selling this at a reasonable price... about $350...lol
Do you have the BIOS locked for using generic batteries ?
That’s the thing with these. First, they go to companies, and then they become attractive machines on the 2nd hand market. Getting one of these new as a consumer makes less sense. My X301 is still holding up well.
But other machine is shit compare to thinkpad.
It's extremely lightweight and stuffs away in baggage very easily with a long battery life. I spent most of my days in a Linux terminal and will run Fedora on it (when I get it next week), so perhaps we all have different needs. Looking forward to getting away from a Mac and into something a bit more customizable, as well as closer to what I build on for work (CentOS).
@@thepoplin what is your specs ?
Great video man! I just ordered the one with the better screen, since it was on a black friday sale! Cannot wait to get it:)
laptops nowadays are just to expensive. I bought a Samsung laptop with a i5 3320m with 4gb ram from ebay 3 years ago for $90 and it has never given me a problem. All i did was upgrade the HDD it came with with a SSD from Micro Center for about $20 and it is extremely fast. boot is about 6 secs and all programs open instantly. I can run several chrome tabs without the laptop lagging on me. I dont play video games so gaming is not an issue for me but for $90 and $20 SSD I am very satisfied. Spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on laptops just doesn't make sense.
You were only able to buy your laptop for 90$ because someone else bought it for hundreds and hundreds of dollars before
@@Sheepy007 yeah thats how used products work. Not everyone needs to get a new device. There are better deals with used products that people can get. My laptop is quite comparable with the newer laptops at a fraction of a price.
Oh man I here for linux
The P1 is the best in the Thinkpad line for Enterprise.....it has all
the things missing in the x1 carbon including a better thermal solution
of two fans,updatable, with no complaints spected with a i5 and FHD
screen. Battery life is always a problem with any thin and light with
high specs. Zeon users should consider the docking solution for maximum
power output.
Software does limit full capability unless you have it plugged in which
is sensible. Have not tried it with Enterprise oios or linux yet.
Several updates to firmware have given the battery a longer time
envelope. Probably the best you can get in this category at this time..
The biggest chritisium on lenovo is that they will not factory install
third party software for visually impaired employees. Unless the
chineese start to fit in with the EU and UK markets on disability, they
will continue to loose market share in Europe. Interested if in the
future if you could spec linux and AMD.
I love my X1 Carbon 4th gen but I'm holding off until they offer something with an AMD CPU in it. I feel like an Ultrabook would benefit greatly from the Vega GPU in the AMD APUs. After lugging around a 3-4lbs laptop for years I will only buy Ultrabooks now and thanks for Lenovo's awesome quality, value, and support I'll be sticking with Lenovo going forward (prior to my X1 all of my laptops since high school were HP which I always liked, but Lenovo is just above and beyond).
Do you have any problems with your 4th gen laptop? I'm about to get the x1 carbon 7th gen. My first Thinkpad. Do Lenovo Thinkpads last long?
@@flips2infinity772 It's still working great with no hardware or software issues and I still use mine when I travel and around the house. The battery life isn't as good as it used to be but for a nearly 4 year old laptop that's to be expected.
Great review, as always 👍
Really like your format of reviews and the quick guide to topics in the description. Can you review the HP ENVY 13 2019, looks like a pseudo premium budget Ultrabook!
No, it definitely is overpriced by a wide margin considering its dated and limited hardware, as well as its inconsistent performance on sustained loads. At such a price point you'd expect a more recent CPU, even if it's only an i5 (which outperform i7s from the previous gen anyway), paired with a discreet GPU. Soldered RAM is a bummer as well.
It only has decent i/o and that sleek look going for it.
If they can reduce that bezel on the screen and give us bigger screen in the same form factor, im game. Even Hp shrunk the bezels.
X1 NANO is coming
Oh man, I hope the industry stops this horrible practice of soldering RAM / mass storage on board.
yea, what if storage or ram fail. Wtf, instead of popping it out and replacing, we have to send the machine in. This is a way for them to make $$ imo
@@shiningyrlife No this is for technical reasons. On an ultrabook you have to save space and heat generation as much as you can. It's for $$ reasons on an 17" Asus entry level laptops tough.
1080p is a must have option. Don’t go 2K or 4K screen. Trust me.
Just bought a 4K version on ebay. Great price and screen is amazing. Depends on what you want to use it for. My main use is trading and the extra definition is a huge benefit.
Love the review!
As someone considering the 1440p I was disappointed that you totally skipped that version in favor of talking about 1080p vs 4K.
I don't get to choose which one they send me.
What happened to the audio? Can't hear anything at times.
Can I use Active pen 2 for this Thinkpad?
So I guess you could say it's from LOANovo 😏😂
Good one!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Dad? Is that you? (Lol)
I also got a Loanovo
hi, is it easy to switch between the intel and nvidia graphics card in ubuntu. i have the thinkpad p53 rtx5000 but want to switch to ubuntu and wondering if it will work. Thanks
Why stop showing the internals? This is the point of thinkpads
Not much of a reason to given the limited amount of upgradeability on this one.
@@LonSeidman make sense
It's a loaner.
You are suggesting that it's not good for Video Editing or other sustained processing tasks. How would this laptop fair for graphic design and audio production?
The cooling is not great, so it's not good for high cpu load in professional photo and audio works
And I don't think the color range of the display is suitable for professional image editing.
What is the best 8th gen or 7th
Idk if you already chose a laptop, but I too am in the same position and from all my research the gen 7 is better. In terms of performance the gen 8 because it had the newer generation processor but I believe that’s it which in my opinion is very negligible considering it’s just a year newer processor. Everything else is the same. It’s like buying a 2019 Honda Accord vs a 2020. Same exact car just the gen 7 will cost you less money.
Same design, different CPUs.
Thanks for the review. I think the keyboard is world class luxury. Does anyone know of a similar PC keyboard. I am looking to replicate the feel of the Lenovo X1 keyboard.
i always knew kenny bania was a tech jedi
$1400-1500 USD?
For only 256GB SSD
DDR3 ram, only 1080p,
tell him he's dreamin'...
Much better off going with a cheaper vastly more capable y540. Sure it's gonna be a little heavier, but if portability/size/weight was a concern you would buy a UMPC.
Don't forget build quality, Thinkpad are built like tanks. These are meant to last. Also, It's important to note how much RAM you get for the price. And finally, 1400-1500 might be the listing price, but that's not the price for which you will buy them. They are almost always on sale, hence much cheaper.
The port you called the "network port" isn't. It's an expanded usb c. Try it. you'll see you have TWO USB-C port with one having an extra functionality
No I was referring to the port next to the second thunderbolt port.
Do you think this is a good laptop for coding/data science?
For coding, it is great device thanks to the keyboard but the catch is the screen is 16:9, i would appreciate 3:2 or 16:10.
I am not sure about data science as I am not sure how much power does it require!
@@niravarora9887 Thank you very much ;)
Would MS Publisher run well on this?
Yeah, runs well
...DDR 3? In a 2019 i5 powered PC? That's absolutely inexcusable. Especially for that price. Heck, I've seen some Atom-like devices that had DDR 4, for goodness sake.
No, this is a solid pass. That Thunderbolt, coupled with an eGPU, seems like a bad idea. So disappointed.
It's LPDDR3 2133, which is comparable in speed with most of the laptop DDR4 RAM.
@@archangel9975 even so. Gaming performance is inconsistent and poor for $1500.
@@KinnArchimedes Are you kidding me? X1 Carbon is NOT meant for gaming. You are much better of buying a gaming laptop with RTX 2060 than gaming on Intel graphics.
@@archangel9975 yet gaming laptops that are cheaper do what this does just as well if not better. Hmmm.
@@KinnArchimedes Gaming laptop won't be as thin and light. And business people are NOT going to carry a gaming laptop for client meeting. End of the story.
Disco Dingo in da house!!
That screen ghosting!!!!
A deal breaker by having the function key at the left bottoms corner.
Ubuntu Rocks you can usually swap the Ctrl and Fn keys in the BIOS. I did on my X230.
dheaddy company issued laptop. Everything is locked down
@@ubunturocks3880 i have got one. You can indeed change it.
@@ubunturocks3880 You can change that stuff in ThinkVantage as well, as a user. So no issue there.
Why the fuck is 16GB RAM and 4cores the maximum in their flagship product?
I do like Lenovo product, but the fact that in the model you are showing you cannot upgrade de RAM and that it comes with an old generation of an Intel processor for a relatively high price, I may search for other alternatives. Also, it comes with Windows 😔.
I was considering the variant with a UHD display and 1tb memory for use at work. How much worse off (hours lesser?) should i expect the battery performance to be vs the 1080 display?
@@SpanishCandle thank you!
What about ghosting on the fhd 400 nit display?
Soldered on RAM!!! Wow they all now practicing bad Apple habits. I refuse to buy any laptop that you can upgrade.
Joe Troiani Can or can’t?
All ultrabook in this world always has soldered ram bcs they reach the thinnest form.
Then don't buy ultraportable machines. You can still buy T- and P-series machines that have upgradable RAM. For those people who need an portable machine, an ultrabook like this is just fine.