Which Lenovo ThinkPad X1 is for You - X1 Carbon, X1 Extreme, X1 Yoga - The Ultimate Buyers Guide
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- Which Lenovo ThinkPad X1 is for You - A Smack Down Between the X1 Carbon, X1 Extreme, X1 Yoga - The Ultimate Buyers Guide comparison.
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"They're not gonna win any design awards" you say? They actually won both of the most prestigious design awards, iF and Red Dot. I think they're some of the best looking laptops out there, and I'm not alone :) But I also don't like how most of the other laptops look nowdays, so I'm probably not in the majority.
Design functionality awards, yes they are top draw. I love their look too but I can see how a lot of people see them as boring business like.
The new laptops are gold, posidon blue and other gimmicks. Makes them look like cheap gimmicks, lenova did it right with these.
@@TallyHoTech Love the kinda old school look, and don't need a hyper thin metallic one, but it would be nice if they threw a shiny version at us ;)
@@TallyHoTech as
Hey guys super excited tonight I’m installing the RAM and SSD kits to my X1 and finally unboxing it.
My X1 Extreme Gen 2 (Total Price $2300 CAD, $1770 US)
UHD Screen
I7-9750H
256 SSD Stock
1 TB SSD 970 EVO Samsung $200
8gb Ram Stock
32gb Ram by Samsung $200 CAD
Fingerprint
Backlight
Win Pro.
1 Year Warranty.
I bought Black Friday
great review!! I've been stumped even on Lenovo's own site trying to figure out the difference between all these and the Yoga, and Ideapad... you helped a lot.
I have Lenovo ThinkPads from 2011/2012 that are STILL running today!....I won't buy ANY other laptop brand! I've TRIED them all!...the HP Specter...the Dell XPS....the Huawei Matebook X Pro (which is REALLY nice!)....Microsoft's Surfacebooks (meh) and even MacBooks (utter garbage!) Of them all?...Lenovo comes out on top EVER SINGLE TIME!....I'm in the market for a new laptop...and you already KNOW I'm going to be looking for an X-1 Carbon on the cheap!...as for the color?...no...grey,....silver....blue....yellow...pink...metallic green?...NONE of them work....it HAS to stay BLACK
Long Live Lenovo!...LoL!
Cheers!
Yer man they are bullet proof and have to stay black! Some great points
2 thinkpads running linux mint. I have to agree. Long live lenovo 😁
🤘
He Eddie maybe you can help me out. I was using a MacBook pro 17 inch that finally crashed on me, and there are no replacement parts. I need a new laptop but I am not going to spend any money at all on a new mac book of any kind. Can you help me choose a new laptop? Any help you can lend would be greatly appreciated.
I pretty much need a laptop that can do video editing cause I like to us my gopro.
I am not much into gaming but I just recently started to learn how to use a cad program called fusion 360 until my MacBook just over heated and crashed completely. So I need a laptop with some power and the ability to expand ram memory and storage memory. I guess I will have to go back to a windows environment which I am ok with and from what you say thinkpads are built tough, right? I was thinking of maybe getting a think pad x1 yoga cause of the ability to use the stylus and drawing capability which is a fun way for me to have some fun on the laptop with the ability to sign documents. Give me your advice, I would really appreciate it. I also thought about Dell and HP. What do you think I should buy?
@@AUS5113 If I had to give my thoughts?....I'd say a ThinkPad T-460 would fit the bill....only because its compact enough, and "solid" enough to take all over town...but the BEST part?...is you can crack it open and stick THESE inside!..LoL!
www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Lenovo/thinkpad-t460
Granted, you might not want to buy it from here, (shop around on E-Bay or Amazon for better pricing!)....I just wanted to show you that you can max out the RAM at 16GB...AND install a solid state drive (talk about SPEED!?...LoL!) and of course since I use Linux, it would literally run RINGS around yer MacBook! The display might not be a "Retina"?...but you'll hardly miss it if you install something like....say.....either AVLinux (www.bandshed.net/avlinux/)......or Ubuntu "Studio" (ubuntustudio.org)....either one of those distros (short for "distribution") can fit the bill when it comes to content creators, video makers....photography/artists.....audio production.....drawing...etc. Once you get one of those?...and max it out?...and then throw Linux onto it?....you'll find you'll NEVER want to even TOUCH a MacBook or a Windows machine EVER again!....and the best part is?....the T-460 isn't "new" so you can get them at a decent price! (as opposed to the Thinkpad T-470 or T-480 which is like...$1100....$1300 respectively.....although you might find one of those later models cheaper, but the T-460 would be perfect for ya!) At least in my opinion!!!
There might be a bit of a "learning curve" when it comes to using Linux, but because this isn't 2002?...(when I first started using it and had to deal with "Dependency Hell") you'll find that once you acclimatize yourself to the programs, and the usage,...you'll be better off for it...since you won't have to pay "royalty fees" (also known as EULA's!) to the various companies that insist that you pay for the "Full Version" of whatever software they're offering. You might not get to use Adobe Premiere...or Apple's video editing software, but your GoPro WILL work with Linux and you'll find yourself "wondering"....which is the BEST thing that can happen, because the more you wonder?...the more you'll be willing to try something you've never tried before!...
Happy Computing!
Case & Point: I found this on E-Bay....decent price....AWESOME specs!...LOL!
ebay.to/2UpP1nU
And then there's THIS!....(gotta love E-bay sometimes!...LOL!)
ebay.to/2YI3FWF
My only "issue" is...the thinner, lighter, "Ultrabooks"?....aren't upgradeable RAM wise...and although 8GB is nice?...16GB is ALWAYS better!!!
Congratulations! First time that a reviewer recognizes that the Lenovo X1 is a different keyboard and slightly better than the Thinkpad Yoga, X280, etc. People thinks it is the same keyboard.
Well I didn't know but it felt different so I went with that
This guy knows what he is talking about. I had 3 different thinkpads in the last 9 years. Currently on the 2018 x1 carbon. My only complain about it is the touch pad which is worse than on my previous older models, which is pretty infuriating. Other than that it's perfect. Power, battery life, keyboard, display, weight, toughness ... It's all perfect.
You know it
@@TallyHoTech why do you think it is that they can't get the old touch pad feel back? Seriously my old t530 from 7 years back has a better one than the new models.
I've had the ThinkPad x1 toda 2nd gen since it came out. Absolutely love the versatility but I do have 2 major complaints. Battery life is bad for it's price and the matte black paint flakes off (can be seen on the edges of his x1 carbon).
Yes, thanks for that. Noticed it on the photos
Love both the X1 Carbon with WQ screen. It's phenomenal
Amadeus Hellequin what’s your experience with battery life?
I've got X1 carbon 2018! I'm in love! My own Rolls Royce)) Best ever) Thin, fast, large battery, blaaack))
Yes, Quality;)
Me too! X1 !
@@MartinZanichelli Yes, Quality;)
Nice review. The Yoga X1 comes with a 45W or something powerbrick, but you have to upgrade it to get 65W. Went with Yoga X1 (2018) version. Love it, but doesn't work well with Adobe Illustrator. I got it to use with Illustrator but Illustrator crashes every 3 mins. Every other drawing program that comes with it works well. Plus has HDMI and USB C , fingerprint scanner (works amazingly) camera cover.
@MissMerc007 hi. Hows the Adobe Illustrator on your X1 Yoga? Has it been resolved? I'm thinking of getting a x1 yoga to replace my 2011 mbp.
We need a carbon version with the Yoga possibilities!!!
I guess thats as close as they can get to the Carbon with the added 2 in features
Whats the differences
And bring full size ethernet
Incredible review as always! I’ve been tossing up between all three lately! I was going to wait for the new yoga but I’m not liking the new cnc aluminium body! If that’s the only option I’ll keep looking. If Dell upgrades their XPS 15 2-in-1 then I’m sold
Love the XPS and agree 100%. A thinkpad should not be Aluminium.
Have a great weekend
this is the most informative and entertaining review ive watched on these products. It is hard when you're being woo'ed by features you're not even sure you'd use, and then pay a premium for it. but after this review I think I'll look fondly for a Carbon.
Interesting reading the comments...Quite a bit of likes and dislikes...I side on the like side. Ive been fortunate. Bought this T430s last year in mint condition. It has Win10. I installed Linux Debian and LM. I cannot get the wifi to work with Debian. I thinks it is a lost cause so Im using ethernet. The wifi works great with LM. I still like Debian 9 more. Im looking at the 6thgen X1 Carbo.. Ive watched 100s of videos trying to decide...I keep coming back to the Lenovo. Thankyou for your service.
The black style of X1 is one of the best designs out of the pack. It is not outdated.
Good vid. I've enjoyed the mix of techy and personal comments and uppraisals between carbon and the yoga models. Cheers
Welcome mate. Take care
Lenovo ThinkPad, made for getting shit done!
Thats for sure
It's not for your daily driver, it's for your eternity driver
I've always liked 2 in 1s so probably the Yoga but it would have been nice for it to have some form of dedicated GPI , even if it was the mx150. Wooo!
I actually never had any interest in 2 in 1s but the Yoga is winning me over.
Can’t wait for Ice Lake CPUs. That will hopefully address the issue of weak graphics.
My Yoga 720 was amazing til the screen went out... For a third time
See now I'm going into college in like 2 weeks, and currently my major is computer science. But I also need something that can process and render Adobe projects aswell since I might do some graphic design on the side.
What have you chosen?
Lenovo needs to embrace it's beautiful sturdy black chasis Thinkpads. Don't change! You have a HUGE fan base who love the traditional look.
For sure
*Aussies going to a primary school in 2012 should know the thinkpad*
Oh Yes!
Thanks, I dont see many Lenovo reviews, the ports, dual ssds and upgradeability, screen, cpu, gpu options, on the extreme and P1 is well extreme, even if the performance may not be as good as the xps, and macbook pros.
Right on
yeah, the inclusion of an SD card reader in the extreme makes it really tempting. But now with 16:10 and 3:2 displays becoming more popular, maybe other vendors are worth taking a look at.
The Carbon is using the shitty Synaptics touchpad driver instead of Windows precision. I thought mine was broken when I received the Carbon and had to find out whats wrong with that touchpad. Havent been using such a bad touchpad before and I was lucky to come back to my XPS 13, which has Windows precision drivers.
Thanks for the info
@DrewIf that's so, then you must be right even I ordered the Carbon 6th gen and also checked the installed touchpad driver. I had the P1 at the same time btw, which had the precision driver.
Thank you man this helped with my choice
have you use the x1 carbon with egpu? and if so how does it performs?
For photo/video editing which ThinkPad would you recommend? I'm thinking of getting a second hand one so, the budget is 600$
And I need wide color gamut with sRGB/adobeRGB at least 90%. Thanks in advance
They will all do the job but if you do 4k editing the Extreme is the go
ThinkPad W540 might be worth a look. You can find them for under $500, look at a place that liquidators business machines they'll have some off lease that are usually reconditioned ie faster ssd, maybe redone thermals and clean Windows 10 install
I love the design build i have always had lenovos and hps and i own a mac air. They all have distinct designs.i have the yoga 1 because its more versatile and more useful love the stylus.
Do 'not' get an XPS 15. Dell quality control is some of the worst nonsense I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing.
ThinkPad Carbon are not the king any more, Mine broke after 13 months, and Lenovo shows no support what so ever after the warranty period. I have been buying ThinkPads since they were IBM, but not any more after spending over $2,200 for one and last 13 months only.
Which model was this? To bad you’re not in Australia. That would be still covered.
@@TallyHoTech Carbon X1 2nd Gen with OLED Screen, the screen went bad and no replacement screen available from LENOVO.
My Yoga 720 lasted 5 months. Currently on my 3rd repair for the same issue(screen problems)
Nobody has EVER offered a discount for Win10Pro.... I just might have to take up on your discount, m8!
Woooo
After going through a terrible experience with the xps 9570 I am now considering the X1 Extreme ... Does it throttle and overheat as much as the xps ?
I agree about leaving it mat black!
The real question is which laptop will they properly service the warranty as to not have to get serviced again. Currently on a 3rd repair on an 8 month old yoga 720 and I aint the only one. #GoogleIt
Cheers mate. Thanks for sharing that l.
I mean, the specs sounds great but you had me at "the duck's nuts"
I don't know if this comment thread is still monitored, but I'm looking into getting a Lenovo x1 carbon, extreme, or maybe check out an XPS. I'm looking for a solid business laptop when I was referred to Lenovo, but I also want to be able to use adobe programs specifically photoshop without any issues or as little as possible. What would you recommend? What Lenovo should I go for or should I check out Dell or another brand?
3 min in still have no idea which one is which.... Label the one you are showing with model number would be very helpful :D
"They both have the same displays, this one IS a touch display and this one is NOT a touch display." lol.... I'm just being a prick but that line made me smile.
Its the same display with the touch layer added. Literally the same panel
Hot dog and a NOT a hot dog - Jian yang, 2018
You know that yellow is an original Ferrari color to make their race car look better on tv back in the black and white tv era? So even tho Ferrari usually look better in red, some purist of the brand might prefer their Ferrari yellow. 😏
Ah yes indeed. I should of said white like Miami Vice but I liked that Ferrari
Intersting interpretation. Actually, I think the yellow color was chosen by Enzo Ferrari based on the colour present in the coat of arms of the city of Modena. Scuderia Ferrari first headquarter was located there as well as Modena was the place where Enzo Ferrari was born. The red color used in racing was the Italian national color for motor sport.
Anyway, great laptops, no matter the colour!
Both of these sound pretty premium for sure
Sure are
Excellent video, thank you.
What do you think about the x1 tablet?
I liked the Mix and anything with the name think pad is quality;)
Exc review. Where did you get the Nintendo cube?
I with arrow keys were slightly bigger and separated a bit (up/down) because it is uncomfortable to sense the gap between them.
But, is X1 keyboard different from - let's say - T490 ? I cannot "touch/feel" any X1 in any shop around me.
Honestly if I switch from Mac, this one would be my choice.
Jin Raigami I’m switching from my beloved MBP to either carbon or yoga because the new MAcBook keyboards are AWFUL to type on
@@dedclownsRfunny heard that the 2019 is a lot better. You are unlucky if you own 2016-2018 version.
Jin Raigami I had a 2014/15 MBP which was a fantastic machine (although expensive), before I knew about the magic of Lenovo keyboards. I lent it to a friend for a year and I found out months later that she’d lent it to her brother who had it stolen from them. GRRRR.
@@dedclownsRfunny anybody who says the new MacBook keyboard is awesome is full of shit and doesn't type very fast
Yes It's Me now that I’ve had the carbon for a couple of months, I want the 2020 MBP with the latest keyboard. The carbon keyboard is delightful, but the cleanliness of the MBP is unbeatable. Also you are correct about the 2017-2018 MBP keyboard and slow typists. I’m no court stenographer but I’m pretty damn quick
Mate, what generation X1 carbon? Should I only get the gen 6 instead of the 5? Or does the 5 bring in good value?
6 champ 4 cores baby
Tally Ho Tech - formerly western gents united awesome, thanks for the quick response. I won’t be video editing. Mainly just emails, excel and RUclips browsing etc
What about x1 Carbon 8th gen vs x1 yoga 5 th gen : are there any key differences in the more recent models that you mentioned on these older models
I am trying to decide between the xps 15 i9 1 tb ssd 32 ram FHD screen so top spec except no 4k, and the top spec x1 extreme. I have negotiated a great deal on either 3000 CAD for the XPS with 4 year premium plus damage warranty or 3300 CAD for the top spec x1 extreme with 5 year premium warranty with accidental damage. Which do you recommend?
Get the XPS 15. Better performance and all round laptop
@@TallyHoTechcan you elaborate on that at all? Are you going to be doing any kind of head to head comparason?
Thank you for the recommendation either way but it would be helpful for my peace of mind.
I will be comparing the with the XPS 15 and MacBook Pro. It depends what your after. The Extreme is very conservative on the clocks temps and performance. If that’s what you want the Extreme is a good choice. It has the 2x M.2 slots, 2x Thunderbolt 3 and the best keyboard. Which are the advantages over the XPS 15. The screen was badly calibrated in the whites and the track pad was no good to edit video. It was a bit choppy editing too.The XPS is faster tuned for higher performance, better track pad and design for mine. Also was smooth video editing plus faster exports and gaming FPS. I think for your use it will be better too. If you want to go Lenovo I would get the P1 with the Quadro
@@TallyHoTech I am surprised that you prefer XPS over Thinkpad, coz you call Thinkpad X1 Carbon the "Rolls Royce" in the laptop world lol
Really helpful Tally Ho Tech, thank you!
Cheers mate
Sorry to disappoint you but the original color of Ferrari cars was yellow. Because Enzo Ferrari was from Modena and yellow is Modena's color (look at the city's emblem). But since he didn't have much money when he started making cars, he took what paint was left from Alfa Romeo (and it was red because AR painted their cars in red). :D
Yes I know and I’m not disappointed. I’m just saying if you buy a Ferrari in any colour than Scarlet Red it look wrong
The Extreme is similar as a P1. The P1 actually has a great deal right now. April 2019
Yer, the deals are good
Definitely. The extreme is about 135% stronger than the P1 (CPU and GPU)
If you can pay for the extreme if you're spending the same as the p1... the extreme is the better choice in performance. So it really comes down to price
Yoga is very nice, but only if you've never used the T/Carbon keyboard. You can't compare imo
Where did you find that Nintendo cube?
Its my dream if gaming lenovo legion approach on the think pad series, with Thinkpad design with high refresh rate and RTX series graphics.
Noice
Saaame...
Definitely prefer in black
thanks!
Fear of getting a crappy panel is what is keeping me from buying one.
What the heck happened to X1 Extreme?
What do you mean
he probably meant that you did not talk about the x1 extreme in detail
Lenovo X1 14’ yoga or xps 13’ which one is better
why are you advertising for those windows keys? Those are 100% fake. They might work initially but will certainly fail for you at some point, there's hundreds of sites online selling windows keys for pennies on the dollar, all are the same and need to be shut down. No way in hell you can get a windows 10 pro license for $15. Please stop promoting them
They are 100% legit They won’t work otherwise. This is not a crack ruclips.net/video/l9hYbumCFdg/видео.html
Bought 10 keys over last 2 years never had one fail
Thank you!
Welcome
I would buy the Extreme for occasional gaming but I heard they fucked with CPU so now the frame rate is bad even though it has a capable GPU
Yer, review coming soon but there are better performers in the 15” premium laptop class
May i see where you saw this information? I was about to get the extreme too.
@@vpr5562 ruclips.net/video/jGWxzVgaJhA/видео.html
The same channel actually
@@TallyHoTech i know but i wanted Lenovo because they usually make extremely well built laptops, great customer service and military discount
"great customer service" must be a regional thing. UK sales support is absolute garbage.
Take a shot every time he says “Rolls Royce”.
Won’t even give me a head spin
What about sim and sd card? Are they combined?
I had an involuntary cringe and pain in my gut each time you pickup the laptop by the corner and the screen bent. :D (I just bought a used X1 Extreme Gen 1 but no way I am going to try that!)
how come windows pro is that cheap? any catch? retail is 339 AUD...
Never had a issue, no catch
Thanks Tally Ho for a great video. As way of background, I would appreciate your assistance. Having worked in a management consultancy business for a number of years I am about to set up my own management consultancy business. This will include executive coaching, leadership training, organisational design and structure operating models and a bunch of other training both F2F and digital. There will also be client presentations, however most of the prep work etc will be done from home on this device. I am now looking for a new Lap top and was thinking of the XI Carbon generation 8 or 7 and the Microsoft Surface lap top 3 with the i7. Also deciding between a 13' and 15' screen. Could I kindly obtain your recommendation on a lap top that would last me say 3-5 years. Many thanks, Keith
Any thoughts and recommendations? Thanks.
Great review! Please help, I need a laptop between 12.8 and 14” with brightness more than 300. Gotta be Lenovo because *keyboards* but I’m not sure how to go about this without forking out for the 4K on the carbon gen6
Nice
Tally Ho Tech which Lenovo in that screen bracket has the brightest screen?
Pity about the bezel size. Looks dated.
Thinkpad should bring vantablack color for 2021.
I'd change one thing,it's the Bugatti of laptops!
Woof
Man you have a deep hatred against a yellow Ferrari lol
Wee it’s the original colour to o
What is your opinión about the yoga l380?
I like Yoga's
X1 yoga or yoga c930?
Razan Khalafalla I’m curious too
X1 obviously
I would buy a yellow ferrari but only a black thinkpad
well done
Cheers mate
is this Gen 1 ?
The extreme? Yes
Ferraris are red, thinkpads are black! better comment!
The code WL22 is expired
I'm looking for a decent affordable laptop for video editing, any recommendations?
Currently willing to spend $600aus as that's what I have right now or should I save up?
Save up mate I ain't gonna bullshit ya. Metabox do the best value for money fyi
the day of my birthday.
Can you review some RTX 2060 laptop ? 😀
I sure will ;)
@Nobody's Fault But Mine no man can't afford a laptop over 2k USD
Dell g7 giveaway has it been announced yet nearly a week since it should have been?
Yer I have contacted the winner but no answer yet
@@TallyHoTech damn
He has not answered so might have to pick a new one
The X1 carbon 6th gen also have a 65w charger.
Yep
Yes, I bought a 45w because I bought this laptop for travel and lighter the better
With the new generation they downgraded both to 51Wh battery. Nice job Lenovo!
That sux!
your hand is huge
That’s not the only thing
for me trackpad - fail.
Yer the Carbons is great but the other two are not my Fav
Hi Tally, can the x1 extreme be open with one hand?
Is it good also for gaming like dota2 and cs go?
Soul Freaks the extreme yes
Great review between the two. It'll help me in deciding which one I should go for.
I was hoping you would have mentioned how the speakers were like on both these units as on Lenovo's site it shows they are different on each model. Could you please comment on this?
The speakers are similar but the difference is the orientation of the 2 in 1 will effect the sound
Please, please leave this cube-thing with these annoying changing pics out of the video. It's like these advertise-popups when you just want to read an article :-(
Weeeeeeee
this, xps or Matebook X pro...????
The Matebook only because is has a 3:2 display
@@TallyHoTech so sound doesn't figure in? Also, what about the LG Gram,?
Recognise.
Wooo
Yes
my thinkpad yoga hinge broke, screen cracked, power button broken, 2 power adapters and constant trouble starting. dont buy into this 'tough' image they are cheap.
Screen cracked, I've never in 15 years of IT seen a screen crack from everyday normal use, did it combust or how did it crack due to IBM?
The ducks nuts 🦆
Woooo
Next time you better make the Test in your native language or speak at least in half the speed...
That was English, you having trouble understanding?
Get a mic
Get a life
Overpriced junk. After a year of light usage it already broke twice. First a full motherboard replacement, now wifi. Screen hinge is already squeeking and there's some annoying electric noise coming from under the keyboard... Trying to sell it and getting the new 16' mac...
Uhhhhh bullshit
another Add......... :/
Where would you like me to put the Ad?
Giveaway
Hehhehe
While the Stinkpads are known to be good, I will definitely say they are greatly outdated in design. I have seen some Yogas in different colors but the X1 Carbon and Extreme do look very boring. It's obvious Lenovo is trying to get the Stinkpads into more mainstream consumers but they will forever be known as the boring business class computer if they don't upgrade these boring designs.
And while Stinkpads have a decent rep, the Carbon and the X1E have a great deal of reported problems. The Carbon's screen bows. Many complaints of warped screens. The X1E has thermal issues, gets hot, drains battery and the fans are noisy. The Lenovo Stinkpads are NOT the IBM versions. Plenty of legacy customers here are trashing other brands but the truth is the Stinkpads are not perfect by any means.
D's fuck is a stinkpad. Next time you want to be taken seriously don't make a dumb fucking comment