Thank you Santa! Your instructions were spot on, I didn’t have the mopar relay kit available, so I wired in a relay socket and relay with weatherproof fuse holder. I made my own kit! Your video was essential in making my project a success! In less than an hour the van was running like new! Thanks again!
My truck has been in and out of the shop for 2 months. Finally this last go around they caught the fuel pump relay failure. It didn't do it all the time. Problem is they wanna charge me $850 for the repair! I haven't been working because the truck isn't reliable. So life has sucked. Thank you so much. Wish you were local!
@@Tomsfoolery.Ok so I guess u answer my question if I order this can I hook it up myself I mean I'm know professional but I du know bout positive n negative wires but this will be my first time doing this type of work with fuse
This fixed the issue. Running like a champ. I made my own relay harness like mentioned. I called Dodge and asked how much the repair would be just for the hell of it. $1800 for a new tipm. I don't own a Dodge or Chrysler product and never will. Good luck and thanks
Thank you for the video! It certainly helped me with my truck.. for anyone who wants to do this without a kit, you can go to your local parts store and get a relay and a relay pigtail for 15 bucks. I had to figure out which wires are what but it was easy. The brown and pink/green stripe wire are your trigger wires that will open and close the relay. The blue is the power wire is to the pump and requires the addition of a power wire as he showed in the video. When you have all the wiring done, when the key is turned on the relay should click on and shortly turn off as it has primed the fuel system. Once you start the vehicle it will stay on. The brown wire is a controlled ground that the pcm uses to shut off the pump when the pressure is high enough but the engine is not running. Hope this helps!
Hey Anthony, I did the same thing myself and bought the relay kit from an part store. Question I have is, on the relay itself. How do I know which wires from the relay goes to the wires on the tpim? Thanks in advance!
Hey Brandon, on the relay 85 and 86 are the trigger wires to activate the relay. 87 and 30 are the power and pump wire. There should be a diagram on the side of the relay and on the underside it will have numbers next to the pin indicating which is which.
I haven’t read the comments, however I’m sure you get plenty of comments like mine. GREAT JOB!!! Thank you, with your step by step and great explanation I got mine done. $50 fix.
I done your fix today bought the harness on Amazon had to search but got it for 28,00 bucks great video thx so much this is the proper fuel pump relay bypass don’t be fooled u need this relay kit to do a proper job thx again 😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊
Thank you for sharing your video! You help me and my brother were stranded Last night! Thank God I looked at your video ! You saved us tow truck fee ! We were so happy to drive back home! God bless you
Thank you Santer, you saved me from being stuck on the roadside. I’m in a wheelchair and the last thing I want is to be roadside waiting hours for a company that can support a power wheelchair transport. Your video directed me to all the information and parts I needed to keep on my van until I could get this fixed. I have a stuck on relay and was able to remove the M25 fuse temporarily to get by.
@@Tomsfoolery. Dear sir, thanks for the video. I have durango 2013, the problem happened when I was on the road suddenly the car shutdown because there was no gas. the pointer didn't work properly so I was able to know time to refill. The fual gauge pointer comes before the empty E letter within two dots. Can u help me the problem is!!
@@Tomsfoolery. i have a 2018 ram diesel in the shop right now. Intermittent start fuel pump primed then stopped priming checked plug at pump had power and ground. Replaced pump no start checked power and ground now no power. Fuse is good. Don't see an actual fuel pump relay in the fuse box or tmis* should i say. Is it the same built into the fuse box?
I wish i came across this video 3 days ago before i took the tank down. JESUS CHRIST after i replaced the fuel pump, thinking the truck would turn on but it didn't. I had no power or ground going to the fuel pump. The fuse on the TIPM was not even blown, which raised questions for no power or ground signals as i test it. Till i swapped fuse boxes, with my other ram, the truck turned on. To tell myself an find out, it was the fuse box all along i was 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 but its the process of a electrical mechanical 😤... THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.
I was just about to change the fuel pump on my 2012 Ram 1500 when I ran into this video and it helped me out so I don’t have to wrestle with a full tank of gas ⛽ and a floor jack!
I own a 2013 durango & it appears this what just happened to it this morning. It cranks but wont start. Makes one appreciate classic cars & how simple they are. Thank you, Sir for such great vodeo. God bless 😊
@@Tomsfoolery. I've got a 2008 CRD grand voyager RT that occasionally cranks fast without starting, I bought a new WIN module assuming that was the fault which I haven't fitted yet but now I'm thinking it might be this relay sticking open instead, it seems that I should just bypass the TIPM relay regardless as it will probably fail if it hasn't already!
Thanks for the video. I had this problem after bringing my truck in for an inspection. I have to assume they messed with something electrical under the hood when replacing a broken exhaust manifold bolt without disconnecting the battery first. I found a bypass kit on Amazon that actually said it was for the 2012 Ram 1500. The difference was that it had a red wire instead of pink (wired it to the pink as your video shows), the wires were a thicker gauge, and it didn't have the metal piece with the screw hole to mount it to the inside of the truck. Worked great though, and seems to have fixed the problem. Thanks!
Absolute life saver, I have a 2011 ram bighorn TIMP is 1100 at dealer, and this external relay is $50. at dealer. Mechanic said Ram uses part # HP6770, and i found it at local auto parts store for $15. Putting in tomorrow. Great video and doctoral, Thank You!!! Well after following your video as doing install, no luck she still won't start and now the jumper i made won't work either. Guess I'm one of the unfortunate ones who's going to have to spend 1k for a new TIMP fuse box. Good luck to y'all
Thank you for your information. There is a cable available now that is about $30 and takes about 10 minutes to install. It's called a TIPM bypass cable assembly.
Thank god for the internet.intermittent no start. I replaced my fuel pump yesterday. Seemed fine and ran fine tried to remote start this morning same thing. Got in and fired it right up with the key. I saw another plug and play bypass but i def have the tools to do this too
If you’ll spider web the two ends of the stripped wires and push them together and twist to intertwine them and have the heat shrink and brass connector already sitting on the wire then you can easily slide the connector over it and crimp and solder the connection. Just thought I’d mention that and hopefully it helps for future projects.
I cut the fuel pump relay wires going to the TIPM and installed an external relay last fall. Dodge wouldn't sell me the kit claiming it was a warranty only item. Put a kit together myself. Gitter done!
@@Tomsfoolery. Thanks! I looked all over but nothing was available for an 08. Plenty for the newer years, but the third gen didn't show anything at all... Had to go old school and pull schematics.
@@3347861 Hey man can you send me info on what you did, my 2010 ram has the older tipm and i need to install an external relay but its all totally different
@@adamflores you'll need to get schematics for your fuel pump circuit. I used a heavy duty aftermarket relay and socket from Napa and installed a fused wire onto the main lug of the TIPM to power the pump. I then cut the signal wire and fuel pump wire from the TIPM and extended them. Ground for the switch side came from a pigtail to the body. Install harness protector on the new harness and tie everything up securely. Hope this helps.
Great video! Just ordered one (using your link) for my 12 Ram. Already installed a new fuel ⛽ pump (YUGE job) but still having intermittent issues. Will install when it arrives!
The kit listed in this video is not longer available. I went with the Vertical Visions TIPM Plug-In Relay System Lite instead. No tools necessary. No removing the TIPM. No cutting, splicing or dangling wires. Simply pop out 2 fuses and plug in the bypass module in their place. 5 minute install and works great!
I bought a truck with this already installed. I believed it to be a disable thing but I never discussed it with the dealership. Turns out this is the problem and it is already on the car. Possibly the wiring of it- broken connection or the relay went bad. Either way I'm hoping for a cheap fix.
i have a 2008 town country. inthink i have this relay issue, but its intermittent issue. the car tries to start and just cranks without turning over. turn the key off and try it again it works and works for a couple days or months then happens agsin.im going to check and see if the fuel pump is working when this happens.. would this also cause a rough idle.? thanks your video makes it look easy..
Had the same problem on 2013 Jeep GC. The recall “fix” was done over a year ago. Shortly after, another recall from FCA saying that there is a recall for the fix of the original recall. You can’t make this up. Thanks for the video, great information.
Will that bypass fit my 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 leader the fuse panel that you're working on is different than the one that I have my fuse panel is located diagonal next to the battery not flat and yours have much more fuses in it than mine does your video was 4 years ago I look for the part number on Amazon and couldn't find it do you know if that item has been updated as different part number I just don't know
I just replaced my fuel pump. Work good the first day. Next day I filled up the tank. It started up fine. Drove to the end of the block to have lunch. It sat for 20 min. Than tried starting it. It would fire than stop. Fire and stop. Every time I would turn the key. I pumped the bottom of the gas tank! And it fired up. Drove it home, about 35 miles. Let it sit. And it did it all again. Brand new pump. Do you think my tipm is the reason? It’s a dodge Durango 08- 4.7
Same truck, same problem. ordering part tonight. awesome video and thanks for the help. Any others having this problem and don't want a battery to drain, be sure to remove negative battery cable until you need to start the truck.
Thank you for the video it was great I was doing the same in my caravan and instructions was so blurry that I couldn’t really see the wiring that I need to cut so I found you and that was an amazing video thank you very much for sharing God bless you
Tks for the video. I received the part and even after removing the bottom fuse on m25 fuse the pump remains on. Its a 2012 Grand caravan.••• Any thoughts ? Tks in advance
Had to figure out where to plug each end since this one already came ready to merge.. other than that, most vital and crucial information, this man got right on.. thanks budd simple and effective 👍 👌 love it dawwg.. worked on the 1st try.
This is a great fix and it's alot cheaper then the "proper" fix, however, I've seen this toggled before. Some older models of trucks had their fuel pump on a toggle from the factory. The only downside is forgetting to shut it off when you shut the truck off. But it works just the same. Less wires cut and taped off if you ever decide or have to change the tipm at a later time. I would just run it to a toggle myself and if I decided to sell the truck I'd replace the tipm. I'm glad I never had to deal with this cause I have an 05 Ram 1500. No internal relay no mds. I dodged a bullet. no pun intended.
I've done the wire jump from fuel pump relay to accessory fuse. Works for now but i want a permanent solution. I just replaced this TIPM 2 years ago and don't feel like dealing with it. I've got an issue with p0882 code now as well and looking to bypass the relay there too. Any advice on part numbers 2007 jeep wrangler Sahara unlimited automatic transmission.
Great job, great video, i have the same problem on my 2011 RAM, the fuel pump stills on when the key out, battery dead in a couple hours, tell me about yours, does it still drain or discharged after the relay?
@@Tomsfoolery. - After 3 years and several mechanics including dealers, I thought this was going to give me the answer. I'm not so sure, this is the second guy to confirm a dead battery as the symptom. I was hoping it just seemed like a dead battery because the vehicle wouldn't start. In the 3 yrs, I went through a stage of believing it was the battery, but then it could happen on a good strong battery. I turn my fob and nothing happens start wise, but I have full power, I hear the actuators etc., but no crank, no start. BUT about a year ago I discovered if I just continue holding the fob in the start position, against the spring it will eventually start, something I thought those guys may have not discovered. I sit there for 5 mins holding it sometimes and then out of the blue, vroom, starts and runs perfect. lol. The longer it sits, the longer it takes to start. If it's only been a couple minutes it usually starts right away. I have reset it several times, no avail. It's so stinkin weird. It's gotten worse over time but still is a perfect vehicle other than that. Anything I said connect to what your doing here you think?
What relay should I use, i have the kit installed today but it didn't come with the relay. Are they all standard relays or do I need something special? Thank you
great investigating and getting to the fix.. ! I have a 2017 grand caravan, going to buy a relay kit to keep in the glove box in case mine fails far way on a trip
Late Comment I know hopefully you will get this lol. I replaced my TIPM already unfortunately and now I ran into my fuel pump staying on once again. Could you send me the link to were you bought that kit. Thank you and look forward to pausing this video and installing a part I wish I would've got before. Thank you sir.
Sure glad I stumbled upon this. Pretty sure I'm having the same issue. I've noticed the fuel pump stay on intemittantly. The bigger issue is when it fails to start.
This is a good fix - but if you dont want to go use the bypass its not that hard to take apart the TIPM and get to where the fuel pump relay is. Then as long as you can do some basic desolder/solder work you can switch out the fuel pump relay thats located right on the circuit board. Its a bit fiddly and tedious but not all that bad.
@@christopherscott8853 He clearly stated that it requires soldering on a circuit board. Any "novice" that takes that as advice for them is a moron. Your comment is stupid.
That is good but I did it by taking the order of egnition from 20A fuse to operate arelay bigger than feul pump relay out of main fuse box and give it main +ve 12v of battery with fuse 20A goes to fuel pump harnes
There's a guy who was a Chrysler tech and made his own bypass, just plugs into cig lighter fuse and into the fuse for the relay. I ordered one and gonna change it
Is the new relay a socket with plug-in replaceable relay or a solid unit? Having intermittent fuel pump not running issues now. 2012 Ram bought new, with 44k miles now. My pump never runs like this example. It just won't run to start truck sometimes. But once it decides to run, the truck starts and runs fine. So I'm not sure what my issue is yet. This video covers a possible solution. Imagine engineering something so poorly that the vehicles have a high failure rate to where the mfg. actually sells a work around kit to fix it.
My dad owns a 2012 dodge ram 1500 its a crewcab and has around 150,000 Miles. I ordered the part to fix the tipm and look forward to installing it. His truck has one issue that i hope you may help resolve. About one month ago a service electric trailer break light has come on the guage cluster. When he does start his truck the truck stays stuck in park and does not want to switch gear. In order to drive it you have to start the truck, turn off, switch to neutral, start the truck, and then switch to drive. Any help would be appreciated.
at 26:16 you mention "probably because it was for a Caravan application..." Dodge Caravan? I believe my van has this same problem, but seeing as Dodge never issued a recall for the Caravan, only the Dodge Durango and Jeep Grand Cherokee, what do you suggest I do?
Thanks for the video. I have the same problem on a dodge caravan 2013, but i have Been unable to find this cable. Does anybody can guide me, where? Thanks Nestor
I have being in a related trouble, our case is a Dodge Nitro 2008, it has the same TIPM, MY CUESTION IS: This modification applies for my vehicle???..... Thanks a lot for your help.... Greetings from Panama!
Get sum liquid flux or the flux paste and apply to both wires so it will clean and help solder flow. Every wire I solder even if iuse flux core I add flux to make sure no cold solder joints.
My truck did this (2011 4.7L). Jumped it off at work and drove home. Heard the fuel pump. Disconnected the battery over night. Next day hooked it back up and the fuel pump stayed off. Started and then stopped the truck and it continued to run. Pulled the yellow fuse and it stopped. Put the fuse back in and it worked normal. Started and stopped the truck 4-5 times. Fuel pump never stayed on. Even drove it a time or 2. Couple weeks later and now it won't come on at all. How do I know if it's the TIPM or a bad fuel pump?
I have an 04 Ram 1500 that just started not turning over with a battery drain and it sounds like the truck is out of gas, but its not. It did start up a few times yesterday after a jump then nothing. I cant find this bypass listed as a fix for my ear, its always 07 or newer. Will it work for an 04?
How old is your battery? From what you describe your fuel pump relay, the fuse and fuel pump all work. Does your fuel pump continue to run when your truck is off and key is out?
Johnny Bock-Thanks for getting back to me. The battery is just over a year old and had it tested last week, no problems. I checked the pump relay, it seems fine, even switched it with others in the box. After my post I realized the fuel pump is not priming when I turn the key, its like a 1 in a million shot that it primes then starts. I've done the 'bang on the tank' while starting several times and the truck starts every single time. Based on that I'm prepared to change the fuel pump, hopefully tomorrow. Does the pump continue to run when the key is out? I do not know. I do not have the know-how to check that. However, the battery has gone completely dead 2 or 3x over the past week so I'm guessing so.
Before you go and spend money like that, please do me a favor, check for a parasitic draw on the battery. Here’s a video to watch and learn how to do this. m.ruclips.net/video/KF1gijj03_0/видео.html
Seems this part is no longer available either on Amazon or from Mopar (Mopar site says no longer available). I imagine most any relay would work so long as specs are met (volts and amps)?
Hi Thanks for the video. I have a 1989 DODGE RAM D150 with a V6 3.9l. I have removed the cat and the truck hasn't been running good ever since. There is a single O2 sensor upstream of the cat. I applied the downstream "fix" to that; however it didn't help. As soon as the truck gets to working temp it stalls when idling. On the highway, when setting the gas for cruise, the truck will hesitate for 60 sec or more before resuming normal ops. I would like to apply a fix for this but don't know of any. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Great information but I think they're onto to this repair. The part number comes up dry on google searches with the exception to the safety recall notice you showed. Ebay had one with the wrong part in the bag. Fortunately the notice contains a wealth of information. Just sent an email to Mopar Part Depot with the truck VIN. The notes on the Mopar page said this item is VIN specific. If I receive a go pound sand reply I can at least build one. Thanks
Guys, just jumping in here. Can you simply repair the TPIM similar to Fords Lighting control module ? Same Relay, Same Failure. Appreciate any replies.
Not sure if this is my problem , 2011 dodge ram 1500 3,7 Shut the truck off and I have a 10 amp draw from that same circuit draining my battery? Not sure if its the pump or this relay thing. I have been disscinecting my battery cable every time i park it and seems to drive fine. It started as a intermediate start that went away then came back 3 months later, then the battery drain started happing.
@@Tomsfoolery. Thank you for the response. This is in fact my problem. Watching these videos has very much helped me figure out why I am drawing 10 amps from FUEL/DSL Lift pump fuse circuit with key turned off, battery draining. AND in the beginning started as an intermediate start. months before. I have a jumper wire on there now till i can find the relay wiring kit ? Do you know where I can buy the wiring kit?
I got a replacement kit for the fuel pump relay kit could not get the mopar one on Amazon . I got one but it has the brown wire, blue wire, then a red wire, can’t figure out where the red wire goes, can anyone help
The day before, Autozone said o2 sensor but they lit machine wasn’t good enough to narrow it down further. Next morning it wouldn’t start. Never had an issue with the truck. I read that naught be spark plugs, pulled all 16, cleaned and reinstalled. All 8 on pass side were carbon fouled. Took to Ram, they say the fuel pump relay- $2000. My truck has 45k mikes and oddly enough has the fuel pump relay bypass installed before I bought it. I didn’t know what it was tho.
Hey bud idk if you will read this or not but I've been beating my head over my problem. 06 dodge 2500 5.9 300k miles. Problem crank no start. The no start only happens when the trany temp light is on. I reset the security and starts just fine also if I step on the break and cycle the key it will start then die instantly.....
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Thank you Santa! Your instructions were spot on, I didn’t have the mopar relay kit available, so I wired in a relay socket and relay with weatherproof fuse holder. I made my own kit! Your video was essential in making my project a success! In less than an hour the van was running like new! Thanks again!
My truck has been in and out of the shop for 2 months. Finally this last go around they caught the fuel pump relay failure. It didn't do it all the time. Problem is they wanna charge me $850 for the repair! I haven't been working because the truck isn't reliable. So life has sucked. Thank you so much. Wish you were local!
Well it’s good news that the issue has been found. If you can find one of the relay kits you could do it yourself!
@@Tomsfoolery. what p/n is good for my 2001 5.9?
Thank you!
I say this stuck at Carl’s Jr. /Hardy’s I really hate dodges poor engineering choices rn
@@Tomsfoolery.Ok so I guess u answer my question if I order this can I hook it up myself I mean I'm know professional but I du know bout positive n negative wires but this will be my first time doing this type of work with fuse
Me too there charging me 950$
This fixed the issue. Running like a champ. I made my own relay harness like mentioned. I called Dodge and asked how much the repair would be just for the hell of it. $1800 for a new tipm. I don't own a Dodge or Chrysler product and never will. Good luck and thanks
Thank you for the video! It certainly helped me with my truck.. for anyone who wants to do this without a kit, you can go to your local parts store and get a relay and a relay pigtail for 15 bucks. I had to figure out which wires are what but it was easy. The brown and pink/green stripe wire are your trigger wires that will open and close the relay. The blue is the power wire is to the pump and requires the addition of a power wire as he showed in the video. When you have all the wiring done, when the key is turned on the relay should click on and shortly turn off as it has primed the fuel system. Once you start the vehicle it will stay on. The brown wire is a controlled ground that the pcm uses to shut off the pump when the pressure is high enough but the engine is not running. Hope this helps!
Hey Anthony, I did the same thing myself and bought the relay kit from an part store. Question I have is, on the relay itself. How do I know which wires from the relay goes to the wires on the tpim? Thanks in advance!
Hey Brandon, on the relay 85 and 86 are the trigger wires to activate the relay. 87 and 30 are the power and pump wire. There should be a diagram on the side of the relay and on the underside it will have numbers next to the pin indicating which is which.
@@anthonydrew4388 so on 85 and 86, it doesn't matter which brown and pink/wire are hooked up to cause it's basically the same?
Brandon Spivey, correct. The same goes for the other two legs. It is designed so that even if a relay is placed in “backwards” it will still function.
drew nice! Hey thanks man, really do appreciate it. I understand more. Thank you!
I haven’t read the comments, however I’m sure you get plenty of comments like mine. GREAT JOB!!! Thank you, with your step by step and great explanation I got mine done. $50 fix.
Great I'm n Dallas Texas can anybody help me I'll pay 100$
I done your fix today bought the harness on Amazon had to search but got it for 28,00 bucks great video thx so much this is the proper fuel pump relay bypass don’t be fooled u need this relay kit to do a proper job thx again 😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊
Thank you for sharing your video! You help me and my brother were stranded Last night! Thank God I looked at your video ! You saved us tow truck fee ! We were so happy to drive back home! God bless you
Thank you Santer, you saved me from being stuck on the roadside.
I’m in a wheelchair and the last thing I want is to be roadside waiting hours for a company that can support a power wheelchair transport.
Your video directed me to all the information and parts I needed to keep on my van until I could get this fixed.
I have a stuck on relay and was able to remove the M25 fuse temporarily to get by.
That’s great! Thanks for the view and the comment! Have a good day.
@@Tomsfoolery. Dear sir, thanks for the video. I have durango 2013, the problem happened when I was on the road suddenly the car shutdown because there was no gas. the pointer didn't work properly so I was able to know time to refill. The fual gauge pointer comes before the empty E letter within two dots.
Can u help me the problem is!!
Sounds like your sending unit has gone bad. The sending unit is integrated into the fuel pump and is mounted inside the gas tank.
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@@Tomsfoolery. i have a 2018 ram diesel in the shop right now. Intermittent start fuel pump primed then stopped priming checked plug at pump had power and ground. Replaced pump no start checked power and ground now no power. Fuse is good. Don't see an actual fuel pump relay in the fuse box or tmis* should i say. Is it the same built into the fuse box?
I have a 2012 ram 1500 with this issue, just fixed it with the help of this video. Thanks for the great information and well explained steps
Glad it helped
I wish i came across this video 3 days ago before i took the tank down. JESUS CHRIST after i replaced the fuel pump, thinking the truck would turn on but it didn't. I had no power or ground going to the fuel pump. The fuse on the TIPM was not even blown, which raised questions for no power or ground signals as i test it. Till i swapped fuse boxes, with my other ram, the truck turned on. To tell myself an find out, it was the fuse box all along i was 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 but its the process of a electrical mechanical 😤... THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.
I was just about to change the fuel pump on my 2012 Ram 1500 when I ran into this video and it helped me out so I don’t have to wrestle with a full tank of gas ⛽ and a floor jack!
I own a 2013 durango & it appears this what just happened to it this morning. It cranks but wont start.
Makes one appreciate classic cars & how simple they are.
Thank you, Sir for such great vodeo. God bless 😊
Thanks for watching and good luck with your Durango! You are so right. The old vehicles were so much simpler!
@@Tomsfoolery. I've got a 2008 CRD grand voyager RT that occasionally cranks fast without starting, I bought a new WIN module assuming that was the fault which I haven't fitted yet but now I'm thinking it might be this relay sticking open instead, it seems that I should just bypass the TIPM relay regardless as it will probably fail if it hasn't already!
Thanks for the video. I had this problem after bringing my truck in for an inspection. I have to assume they messed with something electrical under the hood when replacing a broken exhaust manifold bolt without disconnecting the battery first. I found a bypass kit on Amazon that actually said it was for the 2012 Ram 1500. The difference was that it had a red wire instead of pink (wired it to the pink as your video shows), the wires were a thicker gauge, and it didn't have the metal piece with the screw hole to mount it to the inside of the truck. Worked great though, and seems to have fixed the problem. Thanks!
Absolute life saver, I have a 2011 ram bighorn TIMP is 1100 at dealer, and this external relay is $50. at dealer. Mechanic said Ram uses part # HP6770, and i found it at local auto parts store for $15. Putting in tomorrow. Great video and doctoral, Thank You!!! Well after following your video as doing install, no luck she still won't start and now the jumper i made won't work either. Guess I'm one of the unfortunate ones who's going to have to spend 1k for a new TIMP fuse box. Good luck to y'all
You are a Hero !!! I am on a roadtrip threw US and Canada and not used to Trucks. You saved us a lot! Greetings from Germany :)
Thank you for your information. There is a cable available now that is about $30 and takes about 10 minutes to install. It's called a TIPM bypass cable assembly.
This cable is good for you to go back home but without this relay kit your fuel pump never stop !
Thank god for the internet.intermittent no start. I replaced my fuel pump yesterday. Seemed fine and ran fine tried to remote start this morning same thing. Got in and fired it right up with the key. I saw another plug and play bypass but i def have the tools to do this too
Updated part numbers, according to my dealer this has been upgraded CSZDV621-AA CSZDV622-AA
Brother you saved me a ton of money. My 2012 doing the extra same thing but as long as I unhook my battery am having no problems. Done placed my order
If you’ll spider web the two ends of the stripped wires and push them together and twist to intertwine them and have the heat shrink and brass connector already sitting on the wire then you can easily slide the connector over it and crimp and solder the connection. Just thought I’d mention that and hopefully it helps for future projects.
That’ll make the connection of the wire stronger and better as well as making the wire as close to one wire as possible
I cut the fuel pump relay wires going to the TIPM and installed an external relay last fall. Dodge wouldn't sell me the kit claiming it was a warranty only item. Put a kit together myself. Gitter done!
Nice job! I didn’t call the dealer. I knew it would be cheaper on Amazon.
@@Tomsfoolery. Thanks! I looked all over but nothing was available for an 08. Plenty for the newer years, but the third gen didn't show anything at all... Had to go old school and pull schematics.
I did the same thing on a 2000 dodge ram 2500 👍
@@3347861 Hey man can you send me info on what you did, my 2010 ram has the older tipm and i need to install an external relay but its all totally different
@@adamflores you'll need to get schematics for your fuel pump circuit. I used a heavy duty aftermarket relay and socket from Napa and installed a fused wire onto the main lug of the TIPM to power the pump. I then cut the signal wire and fuel pump wire from the TIPM and extended them. Ground for the switch side came from a pigtail to the body. Install harness protector on the new harness and tie everything up securely. Hope this helps.
Great video! Just ordered one (using your link) for my 12 Ram. Already installed a new fuel ⛽ pump (YUGE job) but still having intermittent issues. Will install when it arrives!
Let me know the outcome when you install. Having the same issue with my 2012 ram
@@dewaynenewton6851 worked perfectly in seconds!
The kit listed in this video is not longer available. I went with the Vertical Visions TIPM Plug-In Relay System Lite instead. No tools necessary. No removing the TIPM. No cutting, splicing or dangling wires. Simply pop out 2 fuses and plug in the bypass module in their place. 5 minute install and works great!
Where did you get your part at? I’m needing to do this on my truck and since the part in the video is discontinued idk what new part to get.
Heather Hoke I ordered direct from Vertical Visions. Just go their website.
What year is your vehicle?
@@rickylucero9086 2011
Best place I found to mount was top right fan shroud bolt.
(standing in front of truck)
Amazing video by the way, huge help!
Great video on how to install the new fuel pump relay fix on a bad TIPM !
I bought a truck with this already installed. I believed it to be a disable thing but I never discussed it with the dealership. Turns out this is the problem and it is already on the car. Possibly the wiring of it- broken connection or the relay went bad. Either way I'm hoping for a cheap fix.
Thank you for this video. Got my truck running because of you and how detailed you were with everything. Awesome 👌🏽 🆒️
i have a 2008 town country. inthink i have this relay issue, but its intermittent issue. the car tries to start and just cranks without turning over. turn the key off and try it again it works and works for a couple days or months then happens agsin.im going to check and see if the fuel pump is working when this happens.. would this also cause a rough idle.? thanks your video makes it look easy..
Had the same problem on 2013 Jeep GC. The recall “fix” was done over a year ago. Shortly after, another recall from FCA saying that there is a recall for the fix of the original recall. You can’t make this up. Thanks for the video, great information.
Will that bypass fit my 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 leader the fuse panel that you're working on is different than the one that I have my fuse panel is located diagonal next to the battery not flat and yours have much more fuses in it than mine does your video was 4 years ago I look for the part number on Amazon and couldn't find it do you know if that item has been updated as different part number I just don't know
I just replaced my fuel pump. Work good the first day. Next day I filled up the tank. It started up fine. Drove to the end of the block to have lunch. It sat for 20 min. Than tried starting it. It would fire than stop. Fire and stop. Every time I would turn the key. I pumped the bottom of the gas tank! And it fired up. Drove it home, about 35 miles. Let it sit. And it did it all again. Brand new pump. Do you think my tipm is the reason? It’s a dodge Durango 08- 4.7
Thank you for this! I hope this fixes my issue! I’ve literally replaced EVERYTHING else Fuel related
Same truck, same problem. ordering part tonight. awesome video and thanks for the help. Any others having this problem and don't want a battery to drain, be sure to remove negative battery cable until you need to start the truck.
If that's the case removing the fuel pump relay fuse is easier.
@@chapasebastiano8 that M25 one? I am guessing that is what made my battery drain on my 2001 Ram.
Thank you for the video it was great I was doing the same in my caravan and instructions was so blurry that I couldn’t really see the wiring that I need to cut so I found you and that was an amazing video thank you very much for sharing God bless you
Tks for the video. I received the part and even after removing the bottom fuse on m25 fuse the pump remains on. Its a 2012 Grand caravan.••• Any thoughts ? Tks in advance
Had to figure out where to plug each end since this one already came ready to merge.. other than that, most vital and crucial information, this man got right on.. thanks budd simple and effective 👍 👌 love it dawwg.. worked on the 1st try.
real men dont need instruction, they know how to rock!!!
This is a great fix and it's alot cheaper then the "proper" fix, however, I've seen this toggled before. Some older models of trucks had their fuel pump on a toggle from the factory. The only downside is forgetting to shut it off when you shut the truck off. But it works just the same. Less wires cut and taped off if you ever decide or have to change the tipm at a later time. I would just run it to a toggle myself and if I decided to sell the truck I'd replace the tipm. I'm glad I never had to deal with this cause I have an 05 Ram 1500. No internal relay no mds. I dodged a bullet. no pun intended.
No, pun intended for sure..this design sucks.
I've done the wire jump from fuel pump relay to accessory fuse. Works for now but i want a permanent solution. I just replaced this TIPM 2 years ago and don't feel like dealing with it. I've got an issue with p0882 code now as well and looking to bypass the relay there too. Any advice on part numbers 2007 jeep wrangler Sahara unlimited automatic transmission.
Great job, great video, i have the same problem on my 2011 RAM, the fuel pump stills on when the key out, battery dead in a couple hours, tell me about yours, does it still drain or discharged after the relay?
Installing the relay fixed it. Prior to the repair, the truck would have a dead battery if it sat for more than a couple hours.
@@Tomsfoolery. - After 3 years and several mechanics including dealers, I thought this was going to give me the answer. I'm not so sure, this is the second guy to confirm a dead battery as the symptom. I was hoping it just seemed like a dead battery because the vehicle wouldn't start. In the 3 yrs, I went through a stage of believing it was the battery, but then it could happen on a good strong battery.
I turn my fob and nothing happens start wise, but I have full power, I hear the actuators etc., but no crank, no start. BUT about a year ago I discovered if I just continue holding the fob in the start position, against the spring it will eventually start, something I thought those guys may have not discovered. I sit there for 5 mins holding it sometimes and then out of the blue, vroom, starts and runs perfect. lol. The longer it sits, the longer it takes to start. If it's only been a couple minutes it usually starts right away. I have reset it several times, no avail. It's so stinkin weird. It's gotten worse over time but still is a perfect vehicle other than that.
Anything I said connect to what your doing here you think?
What relay should I use, i have the kit installed today but it didn't come with the relay. Are they all standard relays or do I need something special? Thank you
great investigating and getting to the fix.. ! I have a 2017 grand caravan, going to buy a relay kit to keep in the glove box in case mine fails far way on a trip
There is a German guy on RUclips that takes the circuit board and shows how to actually repair it . Crazy cool. My giguser channel
I can't seem to find part CBWPR091AA available anymore.
So if we do a bypass does the fuel pump stay on while the truck is on? The whole time?
Late Comment I know hopefully you will get this lol. I replaced my TIPM already unfortunately and now I ran into my fuel pump staying on once again. Could you send me the link to were you bought that kit. Thank you and look forward to pausing this video and installing a part I wish I would've got before. Thank you sir.
I'm having the same issue do you have the part number for the kit you I stalled for the new fuel pump relay
Will that particular part work with a 2014 250 Dodge Ram? My search for that part # only covered up to 2013.
Sure glad I stumbled upon this. Pretty sure I'm having the same issue. I've noticed the fuel pump stay on intemittantly. The bigger issue is when it fails to start.
This is a good fix - but if you dont want to go use the bypass its not that hard to take apart the TIPM and get to where the fuel pump relay is. Then as long as you can do some basic desolder/solder work you can switch out the fuel pump relay thats located right on the circuit board. Its a bit fiddly and tedious but not all that bad.
Not good advice for a novice. Nothing wrong with an external relay.
@@christopherscott8853 He clearly stated that it requires soldering on a circuit board. Any "novice" that takes that as advice for them is a moron. Your comment is stupid.
That is good but I did it by taking the order of egnition from 20A fuse to operate arelay bigger than feul pump relay out of main fuse box and give it main +ve 12v of battery with fuse 20A goes to fuel pump harnes
Good job!
Great video, and great alternative to replacing the internal relay.
There's a guy who was a Chrysler tech and made his own bypass, just plugs into cig lighter fuse and into the fuse for the relay. I ordered one and gonna change it
Can I unplug the jumper wire after the truck starts?
Is this the same on a 2013 ram 1500 diesel engine?
Found the kit on Amazon for 28.00 bucks😊😊😊😊😊
You did great. However, can't find this part on Amazon. Have a 2011 Ram 6 cyl. 1500.
cant buy it anymore because it is a recall part now and is illegal to buy
Where did you find instructions on wire fuel pump bypass
Is the new relay a socket with plug-in replaceable relay or a solid unit? Having intermittent fuel pump not running issues now. 2012 Ram bought new, with 44k miles now. My pump never runs like this example. It just won't run to start truck sometimes. But once it decides to run, the truck starts and runs fine. So I'm not sure what my issue is yet. This video covers a possible solution. Imagine engineering something so poorly that the vehicles have a high failure rate to where the mfg. actually sells a work around kit to fix it.
My dad owns a 2012 dodge ram 1500 its a crewcab and has around 150,000 Miles. I ordered the part to fix the tipm and look forward to installing it. His truck has one issue that i hope you may help resolve. About one month ago a service electric trailer break light has come on the guage cluster. When he does start his truck the truck stays stuck in park and does not want to switch gear. In order to drive it you have to start the truck, turn off, switch to neutral, start the truck, and then switch to drive. Any help would be appreciated.
I can’t say I’ve came across that issue yet! It would be a guess without looking at scam tool data.
Hey what about if the one I order colores is yellow black and red to which and which cables I put to the tipm ??
Thank you Sir. It is a really good video and info! My Daughter has a dodge caravan with that problem. I will work on it. Thank you again!
at 26:16 you mention "probably because it was for a Caravan application..." Dodge Caravan? I believe my van has this same problem, but seeing as Dodge never issued a recall for the Caravan, only the Dodge Durango and Jeep Grand Cherokee, what do you suggest I do?
Great video that answered a bunch of my questions, thanks!
No problem!
Can you tell me what I need to make this myself because you can't buy them anywhere now
Thanks for the video. I have the same problem on a dodge caravan 2013, but i have Been unable to find this cable. Does anybody can guide me, where? Thanks Nestor
2007 dodge Ram TIPM is totally different how. You know. Which one is the cable?
I have being in a related trouble, our case is a Dodge Nitro 2008, it has the same TIPM, MY CUESTION IS: This modification applies for my vehicle???..... Thanks a lot for your help.... Greetings from Panama!
Thanks for making videos like this. Fixed my truck.
Is the harness the same in the 2016 ram 2500 hemi 6.4
Great Video! What brand is that little yellow torch you used to heat the heat shrink tubing?
Thanks! That torch was a gas station find! It was $5 and worth it’s weight in gold. It’s refillable too!
Thanks man! Appreciate the very descriptive video!!
And thank you for watching!
What year/make /model is the vehicle you are working on?
Get sum liquid flux or the flux paste and apply to both wires so it will clean and help solder flow. Every wire I solder even if iuse flux core I add flux to make sure no cold solder joints.
Will you send me the link for the part. I cant find it no where thanks
Hi I have a 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi pickup do you have anything to show me how to find the fuel relay or fix the problem on it....thanks
Excelente 👌 información ℹ gracias 👍 por compartir tus conocimientos
My truck did this (2011 4.7L). Jumped it off at work and drove home. Heard the fuel pump. Disconnected the battery over night. Next day hooked it back up and the fuel pump stayed off. Started and then stopped the truck and it continued to run. Pulled the yellow fuse and it stopped. Put the fuse back in and it worked normal. Started and stopped the truck 4-5 times. Fuel pump never stayed on. Even drove it a time or 2.
Couple weeks later and now it won't come on at all. How do I know if it's the TIPM or a bad fuel pump?
Hello was wondering if you might know why my 2017 Jeep Compass auto start light is on and isn’t working ! Thanks
Wow thats such a crappy system that dodge has. Thanks for the fix man, that is so Perfect!
Yeah it makes NO sense to make the fuel pump relay a non-serviceable part!
I have an 04 Ram 1500 that just started not turning over with a battery drain and it sounds like the truck is out of gas, but its not. It did start up a few times yesterday after a jump then nothing. I cant find this bypass listed as a fix for my ear, its always 07 or newer. Will it work for an 04?
How old is your battery? From what you describe your fuel pump relay, the fuse and fuel pump all work. Does your fuel pump continue to run when your truck is off and key is out?
Johnny Bock-Thanks for getting back to me. The battery is just over a year old and had it tested last week, no problems. I checked the pump relay, it seems fine, even switched it with others in the box.
After my post I realized the fuel pump is not priming when I turn the key, its like a 1 in a million shot that it primes then starts. I've done the 'bang on the tank' while starting several times and the truck starts every single time. Based on that I'm prepared to change the fuel pump, hopefully tomorrow.
Does the pump continue to run when the key is out? I do not know. I do not have the know-how to check that. However, the battery has gone completely dead 2 or 3x over the past week so I'm guessing so.
Before you go and spend money like that, please do me a favor, check for a parasitic draw on the battery. Here’s a video to watch and learn how to do this.
m.ruclips.net/video/KF1gijj03_0/видео.html
Chaging out wires, what are the numbers?
Seems this part is no longer available either on Amazon or from Mopar (Mopar site says no longer available). I imagine most any relay would work so long as specs are met (volts and amps)?
MOPAR PART # 6814 2156 AC 001
02-05 Rams have different fuse boxes, and 06-09 Rams are different as well.
Hi Thanks for the video. I have a 1989 DODGE RAM D150 with a V6 3.9l. I have removed the cat and the truck hasn't been running good ever since. There is a single O2 sensor upstream of the cat. I applied the downstream "fix" to that; however it didn't help. As soon as the truck gets to working temp it stalls when idling. On the highway, when setting the gas for cruise, the truck will hesitate for 60 sec or more before resuming normal ops. I would like to apply a fix for this but don't know of any. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
cbwpr091aa mopar fuel relay kit. Tried to buy from Amazon.. not found.
Great information but I think they're onto to this repair. The part number comes up dry on google searches with the exception to the safety recall notice you showed. Ebay had one with the wrong part in the bag. Fortunately the notice contains a wealth of information. Just sent an email to Mopar Part Depot with the truck VIN. The notes on the Mopar page said this item is VIN specific. If I receive a go pound sand reply I can at least build one.
Thanks
Guys, just jumping in here. Can you simply repair the TPIM similar to Fords Lighting control module ? Same Relay, Same Failure. Appreciate any replies.
Not sure if this is my problem , 2011 dodge ram 1500 3,7 Shut the truck off and I have a 10 amp draw from that same circuit draining my battery? Not sure if its the pump or this relay thing. I have been disscinecting my battery cable every time i park it and seems to drive fine. It started as a intermediate start that went away then came back 3 months later, then the battery drain started happing.
Take the gas cap off after the truck is shut off and see if you can hear the fuel pump running.
@@Tomsfoolery. Thank you for the response. This is in fact my problem. Watching these videos has very much helped me figure out why I am drawing 10 amps from FUEL/DSL Lift pump fuse circuit with key turned off, battery draining. AND in the beginning started as an intermediate start. months before. I have a jumper wire on there now till i can find the relay wiring kit ? Do you know where I can buy the wiring kit?
I got a replacement kit for the fuel pump relay kit could not get the mopar one on Amazon . I got one but it has the brown wire, blue wire, then a red wire, can’t figure out where the red wire goes, can anyone help
How do i do to get this par, any links
Would the engine light flash and the red lightning bolt turn on when rolling over?
Yes
The day before, Autozone said o2 sensor but they lit machine wasn’t good enough to narrow it down further. Next morning it wouldn’t start. Never had an issue with the truck. I read that naught be spark plugs, pulled all 16, cleaned and reinstalled. All 8 on pass side were carbon fouled. Took to Ram, they say the fuel pump relay- $2000. My truck has 45k mikes and oddly enough has the fuel pump relay bypass installed before I bought it. I didn’t know what it was tho.
Gonna pick it up tomorrow and see what’s up with the wiring on the existing bypass and also check the relay.
Hey bud idk if you will read this or not but I've been beating my head over my problem. 06 dodge 2500 5.9 300k miles. Problem crank no start. The no start only happens when the trany temp light is on. I reset the security and starts just fine also if I step on the break and cycle the key it will start then die instantly.....
Does this fix work on the 2006 through 2009 Dodge Ram 1500
Does the remote start work if you have it?
Looking for an answer on this too
I did this to mine and yes my factory remote start works fine, this video helped me
Where did you get this kit
Will that Kit work on a 2005 Town and Country Limited 3.8
Hello I have a 2018 and I think the relay has failed. Will this bypass relay work on my 2018 ram 1500 5.7 hemi?
Think this fix would work on 2016 ecodiesel, my problem is for the same pump in the tank
What number on the relay goes to which color wire from the tipm
Stupid question but if I can actuate the pump with a scan tool and the fuse gets power for the fuel pump in theory the relay should be good
Correct?