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The story of the Dream SMP is great. The problem is how its being told here. I find that the Dream SMP is a good example for how bad it can be to tell a story. How easy is it to watch the Dream SMP enough to get what happening? It is easy as fuck to watch while its happening, but in post? Try to watch the story from drugvan to now, and tell me how many hours it will take. You have to pick a specific streamer to watch, this is a huge problem, because it biases the story. None of the streamers are reliable narrators, and legitimately i only know the story AT ALL because I watch channels like Angry Thomas, which tommyinnit and such say are plagarizing and "Taking viewers away". Which is true, but they're successful because unlike everyone else, they don't wait 5 months to post story videos. Sure, it's nice to have those long videos but they come so late nobody would care about them besides someone new to the story, and even then they wouldn't GET the story because the megavideos are violently late. It'd be better to upload highlights like the plagarizing channels do. And to upload full streams and mark them "Lore" or not Lore, so as to help people learn it. So many arcs occur at once, for example look at january. How many plotlines did we have at once? -Eggpire -Ranboo lives and has good times with Technoblade(On Hold but occuring) -Ranboo legitimately suffers from realizing he's been dream's TOOL. His plaything.(Semi paused, but still going) -Karl Timetravels(Still ongoing) -Tubbo has nukes to threaten dream if and when he is released or escapes. -Jackmanifold and Puffy want to assassinate Tommyinnit for revenge -Niki is an anarchist -Technoblade starts the Syndacite(On Hold) -TommyInnit does a hotel -Fundy "Insanity Arc"(On Hold/Cancelled) -Dream tries to Imprison Tommy and Kill Tubbo/Regain control(Ended, Dream is in prison) This is not all, but the ones i know of. ALL OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTERS CURRENT POSITIONS. How the fuck do you read all of this without watching every POV? All of these are jsut the ones from january alone. I have tried to introduce people to the Dream SMP, only to be completely dead in my tracks every time, i can't explain all of the important story elements without explaining one POV or overexplaining to the point it becomes intimidating and overpressuring. The closest i can do is link them to a video that summarizes the important stuff, but its a fucking mess nomatter what i do. And not everyone can watch twitch streams(Myself included) for a variety of reasons or combination of reasons. The Dream SMP is very difficult to watch. It is told in a very very bad method. But this can be solved by a neutral channel that covers every important event from every person. The role is being filled badly by channels like "Dream SMP Hangout" and "Angry Thomas". But it could be better. It could be not just offically sanctioned but be able to title clarify who's lore is relevant to what. It's something that would save this SMP's readability, because while you all can watch it just fine, most if not ALL of you have watched it from the earlier days, or just stuck to ONE or FEW perspectives, draining a LOT of time until you catch up. To summarize my opinion and point: The Dream SMP is a good STORY, but it has horrible TELING of the story. The themes and motives of individual nuances are great, but the amount of perspectives with unique arcs and storywriting is ruining the entire thing for any newcomers, exponential to how long its been. And this makes it harder to watch without overdedication to single POVs, missing every other's arcs and explanations.
antagonist literally means oppposed to the protagonist, the definition never been about villains. just a person that opposed the protagonist, that is why there is term for anti-hero and etc edit: just realised this person pointed it out nvm
And the fact that everyone is their own protagonist in a way, it makes way for all that drama with conflicting protagonists, and even conflicting antagonists.
The only true villain that I can think of in the SMP is Dream. In terms of antagonists though, nearly every character in the SMP can be seen as an antagonist of some kind. The variety of perspectives people can view the story in help tremendously.
I think one of the great things about the Dream SMP storytelling is that you can choose your own protagonist and antagonist, and what story you want to listen to. You want to see a 20 yo man manipulate a child to insanity? Sure! You want to see a red egg taking over the server? Go ahead!! There's just so much, such as Karl with his alternate realities of the dream smp or quackity's comedy shows on dream smp.
@@bengermin3104 To be honest the fact that Dream doesn't stream on his own point of view also makes him more mysterious as a character because no one can perfectly tell his next move. If he streamed it all it would not be as interesting in my opinion if we knew what he was going to do or getting ready for all the time.
You know... I don't agree with Technoblade anymore. He is too violent and i see him as an antagonist but i watch his streams because i want to stick to what i started with and he made his chat canon. I want to see other perspectives, but I stick to him and i dont know what to do.
I wonder why people didn't find this? The algorithm did not pick up? I'm pretty mad. This is informative. The explanation is smooth and I can easily understand the points.
Someone once said that the Dream smp is so good, because everyone has a unique perspective. There are no real “bad guys” (except in the case of Shlatt and Dream at times) but in the cases of characters like Wilbur, Techno, Tommy, Nikki, Quackity. They all have motivations and desires that are justified by their own experiences, but are at the same time in opposition to one another.
an interesting point that could be made is that both of the obvious "bad guys" (schlatt and Dream) are the only two major characters who don't stream the SMP, meaning that we don't see their perspectives. all the other antagonists (who aren't really villainous), Techno and Wilbur, both stream so we still see their point of views. WAIT DOES THIS MEAN CALLAHAN IS GONNA BE THE NEXT BAD GUY??
@@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 a mute being the villain would be so funny, he just types his villain speeches, and then the animators need to put a translation of what he's saying
Even with Dream and Schlatt. At some point they rlly weren’t the villains. I mean this whole thing started because someone went against Dream’s rules to grief others, plus a nation that he isn’t allowed to watch over could be a recipe for disaster (especially with Tommy being part of that government...which it was). But yeah, he started to become obsessive and controlling and apathetic to everyone but his own motives which is wrong. Which in some way also shows what ambition can do to someone. Relatable. As for Schlatt. I look back to his ruling and think to myself “what evil did he actually do though..?” I mean he got rid of some of our fav characters. (Tommy and Wilbur), treated wholesome characters unfairly (Niki, Quackity, Tubbo), and used others (Techno). But ironically, that’s no different from any other person you’ll be rooting for. Whether it be Dream, or Wilbur and Tommy. They’ve all done questionably moral things. In fact under his government, games, activities, new buildings, expansion, and sm more happened. Other than him being a drunk strange dickhead to people, nothing was downright cruel. And of youre thinking if the Tubbo’s execution, believe me, I’m not happy about that too, but it wasn’t for no reason? Tubbo was a double agent. Again, motive.
One of the big reasons why I really like the Dream Smp, is that you can watch different povs. There are main plots, side plots and you can truly understand how different characters think. For an example, during the red festival, you can watch Tubbo's point of view where he dies or Tommy's who watches from a rooftop, or Techno's who kills Tubbo, or even Quackity who watches right next to the action! How many shows have you seen that show multiple perspectives like that? It's simply amazing
This SMP is quite literally a Dream. I'd love to see what you think on Niki's character, Puffy's or Fundy's. Those characters are the ones usually shrugged under the rug, and you make amazing videos and analysis! You do such incredible videos that if there were more I'd definitely binge watch them. Keep it up! :D
I got so many streamers from this smp I only watched dream I had heard about tommyinnit But I thought to myself NAH he swears and he’s weird But then I started watching his content and it grew on me I had never heard of Wilbur till I started watching the smp
That’s literally my favourite thing about this fandom. A constant chain of content inspired by a bunch of friends playing Minecraft. It’s both insane and amazing.
The way you described how the Dream SMP walks the line between "plotters" and "pantsers" is _exactly_ how I write my books, which I found interesting. I have all of the major plot points, events, and outcomes planned out in my head, but I mostly just make up how the story gets there on a whim.
One of the reasons I love the Dream smp so much is that how you write the story depends on who you watch. The story can almost switch for many characters if you watch the right streams. I dont have Twitch, so I mostly watched Technoblade when he started streaming it. I have watched from the begining with a browser or vods, but that makes me think a lot differently about the story, especially with one my best friends being a fan of Techno and being on his side. It is really interesting. Anyway. This is a great video! I came from the Philza video. Subbed immediately and went here. Keep up the great work!
My personal favourite thing is the fact that every single character has it's own unique story and morals - and that there is SO MUCH content. Like, people bingewatching their favourite shows for the fourth time who? We have so much content that I am positive it is physically impossible to watch all of it.
1. I can't believe you really went and labeled Tommy "the child" XDD 2. This was really interesting! Especially taking the SMP from a storytelling viewpoint. Much comments to increase engagement
how is this man have 5 subs this is under rated edit :after a month he gained 14k holy crap thats pretty good keep up the pace and youll probablly get 100k soon or later :) also remember me when you get famous
I really like this video essay styles. You definitively have talent to write and express complex ideas in simple words (I'm not like that, I have always struggle to express my messages through writing). I would listen to you all day talking about life and mundane conversations. Thanks for sharing your perspective and opinion on the dream SMP. :3 Keep doing an amazing work! Please, do not give up on this channel, I'm sure that a lot of people would be here to support you in the future. :3
Wow, thank you! I am definitely not going to be giving up on this channel any time soon! Got a lot in the works and I'm glad you enjoyed my vids. Didn't think anyone would be interested in listening to me talk and I appreciate all the support! :D
The Dream SMP also helps out artists. I mean, look at Dream's fanart, it SCREAMS iconic!!! It doesn't need to cover his face or hang up on his head, when you see the white mask, you know it's him.
This was a great analysis! Exactly what I think about the story telling, it's honestly so good (of course with some flaws here and there) but overall intriguing.
Great video! Your analysis is exactly why I love the Dream SMP. In a way, these creators are pioneering a new type of storytelling. It's honestly fascinating to watch and certainly inspires me in how I approach my own writing. I'll definitely be sticking around for your future content. :)
A good topic I would love to see a video on is the connection of enemies and how they reflect in character deaths. What I mean by this is that almost every person that has been killed two or more times was killed by the same person. Here’s a list of character deaths so you can see what I mean: -Two Lives- Karl Jacobs: - Sacrificed life in terrorist attack against Greater Dream SMP [GeorgeNotFound] Fundy: - Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [GeorgeNotFound] -One Life- Quackity* - Red Festival Massacre [Technoblade] - Duel [Technoblade] Tubbo - The Final Control Room ambush [Sapnap] - Red Festival execution on Schlatt’s orders [Technoblade] Tommy* - Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [Dream] - Final duel in The War for L'Manbergian Independence [Dream] Dream* - Killed x2 in the Finale Confrontation [Tommy] - Dead- Wilbur* - Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [Punz] - Killed on Schlatt's orders on the day of the Election [Punz] - Killed by Philza on his own request Schlatt: - Red Festival Massacre [Technoblade] - Killed while being betrayed [Quackity] - Heart Attack during Manburg vs. Pogtopia war Mexican Dream* - Killed by a zombie while saving Mamacita - Took a bullet for Juan Mendez [Dream] - Killed in Logsteadshire because he was getting too close to Tommy [Dream] * Killed by the same person twice. -Interesting data- Dream and Techno are tied for highest kill count. All dead people have had one unique canon death cause. Only Dream, Tommy and Quackity have both been killed and a killer. Once George kills someone, they don’t get killed again. Most of the people who are killed by the same person twice have a hatred for that person, with the exception of dead people. No dead person has taken a life. Punz has only ever killed on others’ orders. Wilbur has only ever lost a life to someone who was told to kill him.
Not related to this video but I have a theory. What if the egg had dream under its control the whole time and that's why dream was acting all evil and stuff and now that he is in the prison which is made out of obsidian he is returning back to normal cuz he seems much more friendly than before.
I've thought the same thing. Fundy thinks it's a Dreamon that made the egg/is the egg and I think dream had actually been taken over by a Dreamon - though I am unsure about that due to the fact that I wasn't watching during that time. If Fundy is right about the egg, then it is possible that the Dreamon is the egg or controlling the egg been controlling Dream this whole time.
The thing is I don't thinks that the case It kind of excuses Dreams actions of manipulation of traumatized people which is not okay. He tried to guilt trip Tommy when he visited the prison. An abuser tried to guilt trip his victim. NOTHING exactly excuses the things what dream did.
@@lilredstrawberriez yeah no I know that's its a theory and I respect that person but I have unironically seen to much dream apologists which is kind of hilarious
@@habitsregards Even though Dreamons is a side plot which is not affecting the storyline whatsoever I still think it's a good comedic chill plot to have fun and yes I do not approve of the theory Dreamons in the egg plotline but it's a good theory
I think that their motivation stems from feelings of hopelessness and weakness caused by the continuous conflict in the SMP since they're always at the short end of the stick lore-wise
Niki’s motivation is that people forgive to easy like when Tommy became the main source of conflict on the server she grew to resent the fact that people forgave Tommy for supposedly blowing up the community house Jack Manifold has motivation to kill Tommy as well as his resentment grew overtime especially when tommy dropped jack into lava and was belittled by Tommy when he came back from 2 weeks in prison.
LETS GOOOOOOO i love how none of the characters are “bad” or “good” there’s just this gray area and you form your own opinions based on who you watch and i just- wonderful
Yeah that's one of my favorite parts about it! Although some characters like Dream are a little bit harder to argue as good, no one is 100% evil. Lots interesting complexities in them all :)
@@scrawls Do you think if we had more of Dream’s perspective that people would see him differently? Or do you think that peoples view on him wouldn’t change much?
@@simplyvibing9958 I think it probably would change. While all the manipulation he's done is terrible, being able through his eyes would give people easy way to sympathize with him, even if its just a little bit more. Kind of like with movies like Joker. Even though the character is obviously messed up, being able to see why he got messed up changes how we view him.
@@simplyvibing9958 We kinda did in the disc conflict. Dream doesn't like chaos. He hates it so utterly that everything everywhere HAS to be under his control. Everyone has to follow HIS Ideals for the SMP and nothing else goes. That's why he hated L'manburg so utterly. It wasn't under his control. This is why he can't let Tommy die. Because Tommy represents the attachments that the denizens of the SMP have. The attachments that Dream can abuse to gain his cherished control.
You really made me realize how the dream smp could change storytelling and fiction in the future, especially with how the audience are able to interact directly with the content creators themselves! Absolutely amazing video, I think you’ll come far :)
These videos explaining the Dream SMP Story just keeps me HOOKED. The streams are (mostly) all of the streamers being funny and having fun, but when the serious points happen that's when things really get good. Love this video :D!
In terms of the power of the internet, i think dsmp not only highlights the streamers who stream on it, but also an entire community of people has been able to showcase their talents by contributing to the fanart, fanfiction, analysis videos, compliation and recap channels, memes. I personally dont even watch the streams that often because I dont have time and rely on highlight explanation channels. While this is by no means new, its certainly more prominent in this fandom, especially since ccs on the server can directly view and interact with fanart and the fandom.
The streaming story telling medium reminds me a lot of being at a really good dnd table (or any other rpg game). You typically have a head story teller, such as the DM, who might be akin to the show runner on a TV show, but all the players have control over their own characters and depending on the relationship you have with the DM and the culture you build at the table, might take the lead on certain stories (or back stories) like a writers room, and that collaborative story telling leads to incredible highs and (honestly kind of stupid but very lovable) lows.
The dream smp writing is good but it’s a bit dumb to say it’s absolutely genius. Some of the smp members are actually pretty good actors and writers but the dream smp isn’t an absolute masterpiece.
Love this! quite impressed that it's also your first youtube vid, you could have passed as someone who'd been doing this for a while :) Also really like the video in general!
This is such a beautiful love letter to stories in general, as much as it is to Dream SMP specificly. Thank you, it really shows how much you love stories and roleplay. I esspecially like the bit about Internet and how it has changed the traditional media for storytelling. Great video
Thank you so much! I appreciate the insightful comment. And yes, this video, now that I think about it, is like a love letter to stories in general haha :)
What I like about the dream smp is that, everyone is flawed. I know that is very often in movies and shows now but they are flawed to the point where you are oblivious to it unless you watch another persons stream. I hope that makes sense. Lets say you mostly watch Tommys stream. It you started watching technos stream you would see his flaws and why people like them and why people don’t like them. I love how you want watch different perspectives at the same exact time
Yup. You just gained a sub. The way you explain things seriously and simply so that anyone can understand it, but manage to add some jokes to make it enjoyable is amazing. Words cannot describe how amazing this video is. Glad your gaining traction, aswell (having over 5k subs and only being active on this channel for a month or two) and hope you continue to grow!
I really like your writing and narration! You do a really good job of keeping me engaged and I liked a lot of your vocabulary! This is a great analysis, you can tell you really put a lot of time into it!
I would never have guessed it was your first actual youtube vid, very nice! The storytelling of the dream smp is so fascinating to me, cause it's not as bland as words on a paper and not as demanding in time and skill as animation or real life production, not to mention the real reactions from creators, wish I could be there and have a piece of the pie.
I am surprised that I have not seen this video earlier but I am very glad that I found this. You make great points within the video and I really hope that you will make more videos like this in the future. I have not yet watched the Philza's character analysis video and will be checking it out next and would love if you make more of them. I think it would benefit a lot of people who does not watch other streamer's content or might not have yet fully understood their characters. Wonderful job! Keep up the great content.
I would be willing to say techno is the hero of the story. He sees what government does and is fighting for what he believes. He is a hero making a change in the world for what he sees as the better.
I love this, your very good with your words and the way you went through all this and still manage to catch the attention all through the video is amazing. Good job!!
Hey ! I think I hadn't seen your video yet but I wrote an essay on the DSMP and we got such a similar point of view ! I find it fascinating how the DSMP offers a new way of telling a story (or offered, because with time it became a more "classical", episode-based story telling, with Quackity and others releasing pre-recorded videos that are better "quality" but lose the spontaneity and orginality it had). I didn't take a writer point of view but I'm trying to analyze what is so new about it, and how it can impact the way we define fiction. We got to the same conclusion though ! "Structure and Improv" really echoed with me. (sorry if my English isn't perfect, it's not my first language)
I really love that way you talk about the story and writing your a great writer and really have a way with words and I don't just like this video because your talking about the dream smp I like it Cuz you know what your doing and this is good content
for your first video, this was very well made. your voice was comprehensible and your points were clearly stated. wish I could've seen it sooner but better late than never
dude this is really good, Ive watched your other vids (all 2 others lol) and its clear that a lot of effort went into them, thyre structured just like other video essays ive seen, well edited and put together. keep up the good work
absolutely great analysis! you articulated everything in a way that can be understood easily and everything you've laid out is just explained so well. i also do appreciate the way you've categorised them as protagonists and antagonists, and i feel like that is important because to me, in the smp there are no heroes or villains, just characters that have their own motivations that some may or may not agree with. i could rant about how amazing the storytelling is and how it's made itself so much more compelling than most media nowadays, and you've just compiled most of my thoughts into a 14 minute video. there's also a lot of takeaways about morality lessons that i feel could be taken from this roleplay and it's just so fantastic. thank you for making this video!
Another well done analysis! I like how you brought up plotters and pantsers, I’ve actually never heard of that phrase before so I’ll definitely make use of it.
this was a super sweet well written tribute to dream smp. i’ve been nostalgic and sad lately missing the peak of its story and this really made me smile
You forgot the fact that Tommy is mostly doing all the stuff he does because he wants the discs back, not for freedom or whatever you where talking about, he wants the Discs back (Which he now has) and for his Friends in (Former) L'manburg to be safe. But Technoblade is the one who wants freedom and revenge, for what tommy and l'manburg did to him, they used him as a tool and took all of his stuff to stop one Evil ruler, and re-placed it with another.
Before you read this comment I have video idea, that I personally explain within this comment, is that the dream smp is story with many protagonist, not just one. I never been in the pov of tommy. I've shifted from wilbur then to techno, philza, and ranboo. To me tommy was never the protagonist but wilbur, Techno, Philza, And Ranboo were the protagonist
I feel that if you made a video about Ranboo, because of his odd character and actions. I think he is a very good character, but needs to be theorized about more.
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Also let me know what part of the Dream SMP’s writing you’d like me to analyze next! I feel like there is so much more in its storytelling I can dig into next. :)
Petition to make a discord server for this chanel
TommyInnit full analysis, the bit you did has got me hooked
Ranboo or Technoblade
maybe a tubbo analysis?
The story of the Dream SMP is great. The problem is how its being told here. I find that the Dream SMP is a good example for how bad it can be to tell a story.
How easy is it to watch the Dream SMP enough to get what happening? It is easy as fuck to watch while its happening, but in post? Try to watch the story from drugvan to now, and tell me how many hours it will take. You have to pick a specific streamer to watch, this is a huge problem, because it biases the story. None of the streamers are reliable narrators, and legitimately i only know the story AT ALL because I watch channels like Angry Thomas, which tommyinnit and such say are plagarizing and "Taking viewers away". Which is true, but they're successful because unlike everyone else, they don't wait 5 months to post story videos. Sure, it's nice to have those long videos but they come so late nobody would care about them besides someone new to the story, and even then they wouldn't GET the story because the megavideos are violently late. It'd be better to upload highlights like the plagarizing channels do. And to upload full streams and mark them "Lore" or not Lore, so as to help people learn it.
So many arcs occur at once, for example look at january. How many plotlines did we have at once?
-Eggpire
-Ranboo lives and has good times with Technoblade(On Hold but occuring)
-Ranboo legitimately suffers from realizing he's been dream's TOOL. His plaything.(Semi paused, but still going)
-Karl Timetravels(Still ongoing)
-Tubbo has nukes to threaten dream if and when he is released or escapes.
-Jackmanifold and Puffy want to assassinate Tommyinnit for revenge
-Niki is an anarchist
-Technoblade starts the Syndacite(On Hold)
-TommyInnit does a hotel
-Fundy "Insanity Arc"(On Hold/Cancelled)
-Dream tries to Imprison Tommy and Kill Tubbo/Regain control(Ended, Dream is in prison)
This is not all, but the ones i know of. ALL OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTERS CURRENT POSITIONS. How the fuck do you read all of this without watching every POV? All of these are jsut the ones from january alone. I have tried to introduce people to the Dream SMP, only to be completely dead in my tracks every time, i can't explain all of the important story elements without explaining one POV or overexplaining to the point it becomes intimidating and overpressuring. The closest i can do is link them to a video that summarizes the important stuff, but its a fucking mess nomatter what i do. And not everyone can watch twitch streams(Myself included) for a variety of reasons or combination of reasons.
The Dream SMP is very difficult to watch. It is told in a very very bad method. But this can be solved by a neutral channel that covers every important event from every person. The role is being filled badly by channels like "Dream SMP Hangout" and "Angry Thomas". But it could be better. It could be not just offically sanctioned but be able to title clarify who's lore is relevant to what. It's something that would save this SMP's readability, because while you all can watch it just fine, most if not ALL of you have watched it from the earlier days, or just stuck to ONE or FEW perspectives, draining a LOT of time until you catch up.
To summarize my opinion and point: The Dream SMP is a good STORY, but it has horrible TELING of the story. The themes and motives of individual nuances are great, but the amount of perspectives with unique arcs and storywriting is ruining the entire thing for any newcomers, exponential to how long its been. And this makes it harder to watch without overdedication to single POVs, missing every other's arcs and explanations.
I like that you point out that antagonist doesn’t mean villain
Exactly. So many people think the antagonist is the bad guy but that's not true. The antagonist is simply the things working against the protagonist.
Also adds some perspective since the protagonist is also the antagonist's antagonists
antagonist literally means oppposed to the protagonist, the definition never been about villains. just a person that opposed the protagonist, that is why there is term for anti-hero and etc
edit: just realised this person pointed it out nvm
And the fact that everyone is their own protagonist in a way, it makes way for all that drama with conflicting protagonists, and even conflicting antagonists.
The only true villain that I can think of in the SMP is Dream. In terms of antagonists though, nearly every character in the SMP can be seen as an antagonist of some kind. The variety of perspectives people can view the story in help tremendously.
I think one of the great things about the Dream SMP storytelling is that you can choose your own protagonist and antagonist, and what story you want to listen to. You want to see a 20 yo man manipulate a child to insanity? Sure! You want to see a red egg taking over the server? Go ahead!!
There's just so much, such as Karl with his alternate realities of the dream smp or quackity's comedy shows on dream smp.
bro we can't even watch dream's point of view. He's the only person that we can't choose as a protagonist.
@@miauxy_ Why did he show his plans? if the plan ends in spam on someone else's stream .
@@miauxy_ Yeah, dream said he doesn't want to stream so the other smp members gets more views because it's the o my way dream fans can watch him
@@bengermin3104 To be honest the fact that Dream doesn't stream on his own point of view also makes him more mysterious as a character because no one can perfectly tell his next move. If he streamed it all it would not be as interesting in my opinion if we knew what he was going to do or getting ready for all the time.
You know...
I don't agree with Technoblade anymore. He is too violent and i see him as an antagonist but i watch his streams because i want to stick to what i started with and he made his chat canon.
I want to see other perspectives, but I stick to him and i dont know what to do.
I wonder why people didn't find this? The algorithm did not pick up? I'm pretty mad. This is informative. The explanation is smooth and I can easily understand the points.
Thank you very much!
Comment more. The algorithm loves it when we comment more
Someone once said that the Dream smp is so good, because everyone has a unique perspective. There are no real “bad guys” (except in the case of Shlatt and Dream at times) but in the cases of characters like Wilbur, Techno, Tommy, Nikki, Quackity. They all have motivations and desires that are justified by their own experiences, but are at the same time in opposition to one another.
an interesting point that could be made is that both of the obvious "bad guys" (schlatt and Dream) are the only two major characters who don't stream the SMP, meaning that we don't see their perspectives. all the other antagonists (who aren't really villainous), Techno and Wilbur, both stream so we still see their point of views.
WAIT DOES THIS MEAN CALLAHAN IS GONNA BE THE NEXT BAD GUY??
@@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 PFFTT OOF REVEALED
@@elizaclouds ...how
@@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 a mute being the villain would be so funny, he just types his villain speeches, and then the animators need to put a translation of what he's saying
Even with Dream and Schlatt. At some point they rlly weren’t the villains. I mean this whole thing started because someone went against Dream’s rules to grief others, plus a nation that he isn’t allowed to watch over could be a recipe for disaster (especially with Tommy being part of that government...which it was). But yeah, he started to become obsessive and controlling and apathetic to everyone but his own motives which is wrong. Which in some way also shows what ambition can do to someone. Relatable.
As for Schlatt. I look back to his ruling and think to myself “what evil did he actually do though..?” I mean he got rid of some of our fav characters. (Tommy and Wilbur), treated wholesome characters unfairly (Niki, Quackity, Tubbo), and used others (Techno). But ironically, that’s no different from any other person you’ll be rooting for. Whether it be Dream, or Wilbur and Tommy. They’ve all done questionably moral things.
In fact under his government, games, activities, new buildings, expansion, and sm more happened. Other than him being a drunk strange dickhead to people, nothing was downright cruel. And of youre thinking if the Tubbo’s execution, believe me, I’m not happy about that too, but it wasn’t for no reason? Tubbo was a double agent. Again, motive.
"It manages yo tell a tale of action... romance..." SHOWS SALLY THE FRICKING SALMON
YES! Someone noticed!
Fun fact: the romance in the rp actually goes further, with Puffy and Niki bring the parents of FoolishG
@@katlynlazuli8954 Niki and Puffy are couple goals
If someone doesn’t know, sally is fundys canonical mom, with Wilbur being his dad
@@kellyg2635 YES
One of the big reasons why I really like the Dream Smp, is that you can watch different povs. There are main plots, side plots and you can truly understand how different characters think. For an example, during the red festival, you can watch Tubbo's point of view where he dies or Tommy's who watches from a rooftop, or Techno's who kills Tubbo, or even Quackity who watches right next to the action! How many shows have you seen that show multiple perspectives like that? It's simply amazing
This SMP is quite literally a Dream. I'd love to see what you think on Niki's character, Puffy's or Fundy's. Those characters are the ones usually shrugged under the rug, and you make amazing videos and analysis! You do such incredible videos that if there were more I'd definitely binge watch them. Keep it up! :D
Niki's acting when ghostbur logs on the first time is amazing
@@user-zb3lr3ke4f yeah you can see the fear in the acting
Another good thing about the Dream Smp is the inspiration it gives for people to start making amazing content. I can't wait to see your next video!
I got so many streamers from this smp
I only watched dream
I had heard about tommyinnit
But I thought to myself NAH he swears and he’s weird
But then I started watching his content and it grew on me
I had never heard of Wilbur till I started watching the smp
Yeah I was invited to a smp it's poorly set up but it's was a cool idea
That’s literally my favourite thing about this fandom. A constant chain of content inspired by a bunch of friends playing Minecraft. It’s both insane and amazing.
The way you described how the Dream SMP walks the line between "plotters" and "pantsers" is _exactly_ how I write my books, which I found interesting. I have all of the major plot points, events, and outcomes planned out in my head, but I mostly just make up how the story gets there on a whim.
One of the reasons I love the Dream smp so much is that how you write the story depends on who you watch. The story can almost switch for many characters if you watch the right streams. I dont have Twitch, so I mostly watched Technoblade when he started streaming it. I have watched from the begining with a browser or vods, but that makes me think a lot differently about the story, especially with one my best friends being a fan of Techno and being on his side. It is really interesting. Anyway. This is a great video! I came from the Philza video. Subbed immediately and went here. Keep up the great work!
My personal favourite thing is the fact that every single character has it's own unique story and morals - and that there is SO MUCH content. Like, people bingewatching their favourite shows for the fourth time who? We have so much content that I am positive it is physically impossible to watch all of it.
LMFAO THE FACT THAT SALLY WAS THE ICON FOR ROMANCE
1. I can't believe you really went and labeled Tommy "the child" XDD
2. This was really interesting! Especially taking the SMP from a storytelling viewpoint.
Much comments to increase engagement
how is this man have 5 subs this is under rated
edit :after a month he gained 14k holy crap thats pretty good keep up the pace and youll probablly get 100k soon or later :)
also remember me when you get famous
Thanks! Maybe someday I'll get some more subscribers haha
ha now he has 965
@Lostwithdark 5.67k now
@@domohyes 7.62 now
7.93k now, WOW THAT WAS FAST
I really like this video essay styles. You definitively have talent to write and express complex ideas in simple words (I'm not like that, I have always struggle to express my messages through writing).
I would listen to you all day talking about life and mundane conversations.
Thanks for sharing your perspective and opinion on the dream SMP. :3
Keep doing an amazing work! Please, do not give up on this channel, I'm sure that a lot of people would be here to support you in the future. :3
Wow, thank you! I am definitely not going to be giving up on this channel any time soon! Got a lot in the works and I'm glad you enjoyed my vids. Didn't think anyone would be interested in listening to me talk and I appreciate all the support! :D
The Dream SMP also helps out artists. I mean, look at Dream's fanart, it SCREAMS iconic!!! It doesn't need to cover his face or hang up on his head, when you see the white mask, you know it's him.
This was a great analysis! Exactly what I think about the story telling, it's honestly so good (of course with some flaws here and there) but overall intriguing.
Thank you! You summed it up perfectly
Great video! Your analysis is exactly why I love the Dream SMP. In a way, these creators are pioneering a new type of storytelling. It's honestly fascinating to watch and certainly inspires me in how I approach my own writing. I'll definitely be sticking around for your future content. :)
Definitely!! Thanks for watching! :D
"It isn't called Dream's SMP. It's called The Dream SMP."
A good topic I would love to see a video on is the connection of enemies and how they reflect in character deaths. What I mean by this is that almost every person that has been killed two or more times was killed by the same person. Here’s a list of character deaths so you can see what I mean:
-Two Lives-
Karl Jacobs:
- Sacrificed life in terrorist attack against Greater Dream SMP [GeorgeNotFound]
Fundy:
- Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [GeorgeNotFound]
-One Life-
Quackity*
- Red Festival Massacre [Technoblade]
- Duel [Technoblade]
Tubbo
- The Final Control Room ambush [Sapnap]
- Red Festival execution on Schlatt’s orders [Technoblade]
Tommy*
- Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [Dream]
- Final duel in The War for L'Manbergian Independence [Dream]
Dream*
- Killed x2 in the Finale Confrontation [Tommy]
- Dead-
Wilbur*
- Died in the Final Control Room in the L'Manberg Revolution [Punz]
- Killed on Schlatt's orders on the day of the Election [Punz]
- Killed by Philza on his own request
Schlatt:
- Red Festival Massacre [Technoblade]
- Killed while being betrayed [Quackity]
- Heart Attack during Manburg vs. Pogtopia war
Mexican Dream*
- Killed by a zombie while saving Mamacita
- Took a bullet for Juan Mendez [Dream]
- Killed in Logsteadshire because he was getting too close to Tommy [Dream]
* Killed by the same person twice.
-Interesting data-
Dream and Techno are tied for highest kill count.
All dead people have had one unique canon death cause.
Only Dream, Tommy and Quackity have both been killed and a killer.
Once George kills someone, they don’t get killed again.
Most of the people who are killed by the same person twice have a hatred for that person, with the exception of dead people.
No dead person has taken a life.
Punz has only ever killed on others’ orders.
Wilbur has only ever lost a life to someone who was told to kill him.
Not related to this video but I have a theory. What if the egg had dream under its control the whole time and that's why dream was acting all evil and stuff and now that he is in the prison which is made out of obsidian he is returning back to normal cuz he seems much more friendly than before.
I've thought the same thing.
Fundy thinks it's a Dreamon that made the egg/is the egg and I think dream had actually been taken over by a Dreamon - though I am unsure about that due to the fact that I wasn't watching during that time.
If Fundy is right about the egg, then it is possible that the Dreamon is the egg or controlling the egg been controlling Dream this whole time.
The thing is I don't thinks that the case
It kind of excuses Dreams actions of manipulation of traumatized people which is not okay. He tried to guilt trip Tommy when he visited the prison. An abuser tried to guilt trip his victim. NOTHING exactly excuses the things what dream did.
@@habitsregards well obviously this is just a theory too after all-
@@lilredstrawberriez yeah no I know that's its a theory and I respect that person but I have unironically seen to much dream apologists which is kind of hilarious
@@habitsregards Even though Dreamons is a side plot which is not affecting the storyline whatsoever I still think it's a good comedic chill plot to have fun and yes I do not approve of the theory Dreamons in the egg plotline but it's a good theory
he: * talks a lot about characters with motivations *
niki and jack: "what is motivation?"
Well Niki thinks that Tommy did things that he didnt and Jack is idk
lol both of their motivations is to kill Tommy, Team Rocket Dream smp version
Niki's motivation to kill Tommy was the fact that nobody, and then especially Tommy, ever listens to her
I think that their motivation stems from feelings of hopelessness and weakness caused by the continuous conflict in the SMP since they're always at the short end of the stick lore-wise
Niki’s motivation is that people forgive to easy like when Tommy became the main source of conflict on the server she grew to resent the fact that people forgave Tommy for supposedly blowing up the community house
Jack Manifold has motivation to kill Tommy as well as his resentment grew overtime especially when tommy dropped jack into lava and was belittled by Tommy when he came back from 2 weeks in prison.
I am legit subbing because of that Batman analogy. Don't get me wrong, the rest of the video was great, but the Batman analogy made me sub instantly.
Thanks man! Batman's villains are just the perfect ones to talk about when discussing interesting antagonists
LETS GOOOOOOO
i love how none of the characters are “bad” or “good” there’s just this gray area and you form your own opinions based on who you watch and i just- wonderful
Yeah that's one of my favorite parts about it! Although some characters like Dream are a little bit harder to argue as good, no one is 100% evil. Lots interesting complexities in them all :)
@@scrawls Do you think if we had more of Dream’s perspective that people would see him differently? Or do you think that peoples view on him wouldn’t change much?
@@simplyvibing9958 I think it probably would change. While all the manipulation he's done is terrible, being able through his eyes would give people easy way to sympathize with him, even if its just a little bit more. Kind of like with movies like Joker. Even though the character is obviously messed up, being able to see why he got messed up changes how we view him.
@@simplyvibing9958 We kinda did in the disc conflict. Dream doesn't like chaos. He hates it so utterly that everything everywhere HAS to be under his control. Everyone has to follow HIS Ideals for the SMP and nothing else goes. That's why he hated L'manburg so utterly. It wasn't under his control. This is why he can't let Tommy die. Because Tommy represents the attachments that the denizens of the SMP have. The attachments that Dream can abuse to gain his cherished control.
Except Dream and Jschlatt
You really made me realize how the dream smp could change storytelling and fiction in the future, especially with how the audience are able to interact directly with the content creators themselves! Absolutely amazing video, I think you’ll come far :)
Yup, the Dream SMP is a really fascinating form of storytelling! Thanks for commenting! I'm glad you enjoyed the vid :D
12:27 everything schlatt has ever done has been worth of best actor
"It manages to tell a tale of action... romance... tragedy" Shows a picture of Henry!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!
notice how Tommy always plays music in his streams, he loves video game music that's why he likes the discs so much
thankful I found an actually good channel for once. keep up the good work!
Thanks dude! Hope you stick around!
I’m honestly just vibing to the Minecraft Discs in the background.
*this SMP has been one of the only things keeping me sane throughout this entire quarantine*
This is under rated
The way romance was represented by a salmon 0:30
This is your first (official) video? It's so well made. Nice job.
Yep! Thank you for watching dude!
These videos explaining the Dream SMP Story just keeps me HOOKED. The streams are (mostly) all of the streamers being funny and having fun, but when the serious points happen that's when things really get good. Love this video :D!
Dream is a genius he even said he stopped streaming to raise the others especially Tommy and to make him the protagonist
5:48 WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT PICTURE OF WILBUR LMAO
tommy charachter is literally season 1 eren.
Then lets hope he doesn’t turn into Season 4 Eren lol
@@reo_1907 Post 139 or before 139
Is nobody gonna talk about 3:00 him just calling tommyinnit 'the child'
In terms of the power of the internet, i think dsmp not only highlights the streamers who stream on it, but also an entire community of people has been able to showcase their talents by contributing to the fanart, fanfiction, analysis videos, compliation and recap channels, memes. I personally dont even watch the streams that often because I dont have time and rely on highlight explanation channels. While this is by no means new, its certainly more prominent in this fandom, especially since ccs on the server can directly view and interact with fanart and the fandom.
The streaming story telling medium reminds me a lot of being at a really good dnd table (or any other rpg game). You typically have a head story teller, such as the DM, who might be akin to the show runner on a TV show, but all the players have control over their own characters and depending on the relationship you have with the DM and the culture you build at the table, might take the lead on certain stories (or back stories) like a writers room, and that collaborative story telling leads to incredible highs and (honestly kind of stupid but very lovable) lows.
The dream smp writing is good but it’s a bit dumb to say it’s absolutely genius. Some of the smp members are actually pretty good actors and writers but the dream smp isn’t an absolute masterpiece.
its cuz they are still CC s they have their limits either way tho watching something like this happen in minecraft was very entertaining
This video articulates much of what I feel makes the SMP so interesting and unique. Great work.
Love this! quite impressed that it's also your first youtube vid, you could have passed as someone who'd been doing this for a while :) Also really like the video in general!
This is such a beautiful love letter to stories in general, as much as it is to Dream SMP specificly. Thank you, it really shows how much you love stories and roleplay. I esspecially like the bit about Internet and how it has changed the traditional media for storytelling. Great video
Thank you so much! I appreciate the insightful comment. And yes, this video, now that I think about it, is like a love letter to stories in general haha :)
@@scrawls no problem, it really shows how much effort and love you had put in the video
What I like about the dream smp is that, everyone is flawed. I know that is very often in movies and shows now but they are flawed to the point where you are oblivious to it unless you watch another persons stream. I hope that makes sense. Lets say you mostly watch Tommys stream. It you started watching technos stream you would see his flaws and why people like them and why people don’t like them. I love how you want watch different perspectives at the same exact time
Yup. You just gained a sub.
The way you explain things seriously and simply so that anyone can understand it, but manage to add some jokes to make it enjoyable is amazing. Words cannot describe how amazing this video is. Glad your gaining traction, aswell (having over 5k subs and only being active on this channel for a month or two) and hope you continue to grow!
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it. :)
This is so in-depth and well put together! This is so underrated and deserves all this support and more! Amazing video!
I really like your writing and narration! You do a really good job of keeping me engaged and I liked a lot of your vocabulary! This is a great analysis, you can tell you really put a lot of time into it!
I like how the Dream SMP has a lot of permanent antagonists
I would never have guessed it was your first actual youtube vid, very nice!
The storytelling of the dream smp is so fascinating to me, cause it's not as bland as words on a paper and not as demanding in time and skill as animation or real life production, not to mention the real reactions from creators, wish I could be there and have a piece of the pie.
I am surprised that I have not seen this video earlier but I am very glad that I found this. You make great points within the video and I really hope that you will make more videos like this in the future. I have not yet watched the Philza's character analysis video and will be checking it out next and would love if you make more of them. I think it would benefit a lot of people who does not watch other streamer's content or might not have yet fully understood their characters. Wonderful job! Keep up the great content.
"Romance"
*Shows a fish*
Oh no, oh no, oh no, not the fish.
*S h e w a n t s y o u .*
I would be willing to say techno is the hero of the story. He sees what government does and is fighting for what he believes. He is a hero making a change in the world for what he sees as the better.
I love this, your very good with your words and the way you went through all this and still manage to catch the attention all through the video is amazing. Good job!!
I SPIT MY TEA AT ROMANCE
Hey ! I think I hadn't seen your video yet but I wrote an essay on the DSMP and we got such a similar point of view ! I find it fascinating how the DSMP offers a new way of telling a story (or offered, because with time it became a more "classical", episode-based story telling, with Quackity and others releasing pre-recorded videos that are better "quality" but lose the spontaneity and orginality it had). I didn't take a writer point of view but I'm trying to analyze what is so new about it, and how it can impact the way we define fiction. We got to the same conclusion though ! "Structure and Improv" really echoed with me. (sorry if my English isn't perfect, it's not my first language)
Can I link your video in my essay ?
Sure, go ahead!
Another thing i love is the interesting lore.Escpecially the tales from the smp.Which adds a bit more lore
Epic just found your channel loving it
I really love that way you talk about the story and writing your a great writer and really have a way with words and I don't just like this video because your talking about the dream smp I like it Cuz you know what your doing and this is good content
for your first video, this was very well made. your voice was comprehensible and your points were clearly stated. wish I could've seen it sooner but better late than never
dude this is really good, Ive watched your other vids (all 2 others lol) and its clear that a lot of effort went into them, thyre structured just like other video essays ive seen, well edited and put together. keep up the good work
Thanks a ton! I do try to put a lot of effort and I appreciate your encouragement :)
dude i can already tell that you put a lot of effort into your vids.
0:28 I love that Techno said "Canon"
absolutely great analysis! you articulated everything in a way that can be understood easily and everything you've laid out is just explained so well. i also do appreciate the way you've categorised them as protagonists and antagonists, and i feel like that is important because to me, in the smp there are no heroes or villains, just characters that have their own motivations that some may or may not agree with.
i could rant about how amazing the storytelling is and how it's made itself so much more compelling than most media nowadays, and you've just compiled most of my thoughts into a 14 minute video. there's also a lot of takeaways about morality lessons that i feel could be taken from this roleplay and it's just so fantastic.
thank you for making this video!
Another well done analysis! I like how you brought up plotters and pantsers, I’ve actually never heard of that phrase before so I’ll definitely make use of it.
this was a super sweet well written tribute to dream smp. i’ve been nostalgic and sad lately missing the peak of its story and this really made me smile
i think this is a new and revolutionary (geddit) art form, im excited to see where streamers go with this.
HOW DOES THIS ONLY HAVE 9K VIEWS? THIS DESERVES WAY MORE!
You forgot the fact that Tommy is mostly doing all the stuff he does because he wants the discs back, not for freedom or whatever you where talking about, he wants the Discs back (Which he now has) and for his Friends in (Former) L'manburg to be safe. But Technoblade is the one who wants freedom and revenge, for what tommy and l'manburg did to him, they used him as a tool and took all of his stuff to stop one Evil ruler, and re-placed it with another.
I hope your channel will grow!!! I watched the Pilza video first, and I'm looking forward to more of your video essays about the Dream SMP!!!
Before you read this comment I have video idea, that I personally explain within this comment, is that the dream smp is story with many protagonist, not just one.
I never been in the pov of tommy. I've shifted from wilbur then to techno, philza, and ranboo. To me tommy was never the protagonist but wilbur, Techno, Philza, And Ranboo were the protagonist
Interesting idea! I might considering making a vid like that in the future! If I do I’ll let you know and Ill credit your comment
@@scrawls awesome
It's kinds sad how a structured improv is much better than some of the anime's you can see today
Tommy's character development is cool
5:46 Well now I'm wondering what TommyInnit idea made Wilbur gayly swallow his microphone.
Bruh as soon as the "Dream SMP fans watching streams at 3AM" popped up, it turned 3 AM
When you putted that meme at the start I felt slightly attacked considering its 4:48 am for me right now
Amazing content 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
You've earned another subscriber ❤️❤️❤️
6:29
wilbur:independence or death
scrawls:show ghostbur🤣🤣🤣
I feel that if you made a video about Ranboo, because of his odd character and actions. I think he is a very good character, but needs to be theorized about more.
I can see great things coming to your channel in the future. This being your first video and it already being so good is amazing.
This is severly underrated
Keep up the good work my guy
Did anybody else panic when they heard that music disk in the back audio? 😅 Ranboo has ruined it and now it's- vaguely traumatic?
dude, your videos are really entertaining, you should continue making stuff like this, i hope your channel blows up soon :)
It has techno, that's why is so great.
These videos are great. Im excited to see more from this channel!
This is a really awesome video! I'm glad you really dove into the GENIUS plot and character writing of this amazing story
Technoblade next for the character analysis? *-* although its pretty obvious xD
Techno is amazing and I will analyze him soon, though I’ve actually got a more underrated character coming up next instead 👀
Your way of editing is very satisfying. I love your videos! Keep up the good work :)
Wow i wanted to see more videos of you but you only made 2 this is too cool
yes plz do more this is very interesting to watch
You've earned my subscription. Good job on the video, it's very insightgful!
RUclips get your act together this is amazing!!!!!! How is this your first video essay you're a pro
"The Child"
Video pog, and I see a character analysis up next poggers, and the references holyy
Agreed
this is amazing for a first video!
Thank you for your contents. I will watching you grow with great interest.
Thank you! I really appreciate it
Very well written! Although I was waiting for you to talk about niki after you mentioned her but you never did.