Sold my 2022 F-350 dually and just sold my 2020 F-350. Theres a lot I could say about my experience, but it will suffice to say I won't ve buying another Ford truck...ever.
This started in 1998-I worked for a company that supplied electronic compoenents to FORD. They had a program (to improve quality) called "Six Sigma" (after the statistical number for 3.7 PPM defect rates. THis was very costly for the vendors to initiate-it required audits, extra hires, generation of worthless statistics, etc. We finally got it-only to be rewarded with demands for price cuts..they demaded 5% reductions per year. This made sales to FORD unprofitable and led to many suppliers dropping out. FORD started buying from cheap Chinese suppliers...end of story. They brought this on themselves.
I just bought a Toyota Tundra. But I actually preferred the F150 with the interior space, the flat floor in the back seat area, the interior layout and the overall styling. But the quality issues stopped me from going through with a purchase. Plus the trucks in my area have been sitting on the dealer's lots for 8, 10, 12+ months. Many had dead batteries, were dirty inside and out and some had things not working properly. Not the thing a buyer wants to see when preparing to shell out the amount of coin it takes to buy a 1/2 ton truck these days. The Tundra I bought has a build date of 10/2023, was on the dealer's lot for 1 day and everything works as it should. Is the Toyota perfect? No. But it's miles ahead of f150.
As my mechanic (an old school Chevy guy) recently told me that if you want to buy something you have to maintain, buy a Toyota.. if you want to buy some vehicle you have to fix all the time then buy something else.
I was a Ford mechanic for over 30 years. I watched the things that Ford did to their customers over the years. I was part of a focus group that Ford started trying to fix some of the issues we saw in hopes of correcting them before they got to the customers. I am sad to say they did nothing we suggested. I purchased a Ford Ranger 4x4 new drove over 200,000 miles and never had an issue. Outside of an alternator nothing ever failed. I know people are going to call B.S. but that's my story believe it or not. The next truck I purchased was a Ford Explorer. I overhauled the transmission at 100,000 miles and it was my fault, I got stuck in a snow storm and burnt the transmission out of it. I ran that until almost 200,000 miles and the only reason I sold it I noticed a small oil leak at the rear main seal and figured it was time. Unfortunately, the only choices I had in a small/midsized pickup at that time were Chevy Colorado, Toyota, or Nissan, Ford had stopped making the Ranger and the Explorer. Toyota's were way over priced, didn't trust the Chevy, so I purchased a Nissan Frontier, it now has over 100,000 miles on it and so far, has been trouble free. After talking to other truck guys I can't see me going back to Ford again. granted I took care of my trucks, but even that doesn't mean anything today. It hurts me to say things negative about Ford products, I still own a Fox Body Mustang, but unless I see major changes in COST and Quality I am not going back.
@@romans828. It that with the sad 5.3 with AFM self destructing lifters or the pathetic 3.0 diesel that might replace the 6.0 power stroke as the worst engine ever put in a truck?
I have a 1993 V6 Nissan King Cab with over 200K . It starts on a dime, and the only thing that has gone wrong was a battery cable. I rarely use it, but can't part with it either.
It's a shame that the main reason Ford is trying to improve quality is to cut down on recall costs instead of taking pride in their work and doing it right the first time around.
Yup exactly that. Hence why I always stick with a Japanese Brand. Their work ethic and attention to quality cannot be beaten by any American auto manufacturer..
If you want a high price, then offer a longer warranty. Stand behind your brand and quality by backing it up with a 6 year 120k bumper to bumper warranty.
I bought my first Ford in 2001 it is a 2000 F250 7.3 it had 60k on it and now has 280k looks and runs like new no oil use and I will drive until it dies it doesnt owe me anything . Great Show
Them talking about dealerships price gouging is a joke. The sticker on the window comes from the factory 2 and 2.5 times over the value of the vehicle. They got $70k stickers on $30k trucks. They can keep that junk.
Been that way for awhile. It's just gotten so bad now that a larger percentage of the population is being priced out. The used market is more delusional than the new.
They BOTH price gouge, manufacturer and dealer, but the manufacturer is being semi-forced to do this by the federal gov't. This all started with CAFE rules and forced building of EV's, and none of those are money makers, so manufacturers have been progressively jacking the prices of low cost vehicles, mostly trucks, to cover the dev costs of the other crap.
@@EldePHX Gotta fight bailouts, best hope is they are so diminished as to not be "too big to fail"...and we all raise hell. Tad sad to see Big Three go down, but the only way markets can operate efficiently, fast and effective. F has a chance in some diminished form or colab. Rural America few decades ago, we *relied on Sears.* Now forgotten and not missed, Sears was American Icon since 1900...fell behind new tech and got replaced.
My September 2023 Ford issues: 2020 Expedition Max: Transmission went out at 33k miles. Took 5 weeks to rebuild. 2023 Ford F-150 Lariat: AC went out after 2 weeks. Fortunately the dealership that sold me the vehicle made it a priority to fix, but still took a week for parts to arrive and repair. I will buy a different brand for my next vehicle.
I'm 82 years old back in the 1950's I bought a 1947 Ford for $ 75 the flat heads ran a long time, burnt oil but all was needed to keep them running was a couple wrenches and extra wire.
I owned a 1959 Ford F-100 in turquoise. It had a 292 V8 that ran like a top. Three speed on the tree manual. After some years, I finally sold it to a USMC buddy in 1983. He says it still runs like a top this very day!
Ford/GM/Chrysler went through the same thing in the 70's. They lost a whole generation of car buyers that would never buy domestic. It took many years to fix, and now they are back to doing the same thing, turning out crappy vehicles. I've owned 5 Mustangs (1st was a 65 Fastback), several F250s, and various other cars. Latest car we purchased was a Toyota TRD and I don't see buying another Ford ever again. Both daughters had crappy Fords that they got rid of and are now happy with their Toyotas.
When I was a kid in the 70's my dad got a new Chrysler that broke down and left my mom and me stranded. I grew up swearing I'd never buy a Chrysler and I haven't.
Totally agree with you. In the 70's it was very poor quality combined with absolute total arrogance on the part of Ford/GM/Chrysler. The serious problem is that you lose customers that you will never get back. My last Ford purchase was in 1986, a brand new Mustang LX. A nightmare of a vehicle with a litany of problems starting on day two of my ownership. Never again, I said. I have been Ford free for 37 years now, and a Toyota owner for 36 years.
2018 Raptor owner, I did cam phasers, water pump and thermostat at 85k miles. I upgraded the upper control arms to the Fabtech uni-ball style. Much beefier than stock. Sits on 37x13.50x 24’s. Changed spark plugs at 86k miles and they all looked really good. The 3.5 eco boost burns zero oil and I avg 13.5 mpg. Been a very good truck and has been on a few trips to the mountains. Very comfortable, roomy and rides very well even with the hard/heavy mud tires. As for the 10 speed transmission, when I first get in to drive, I put it in tow haul mode, and when the operating temp is reached after 10 miles or so, I take it out of tow. It helps eliminate the ‘skip shift’ roughness doing it this way. In summary, I like my raptor. It’s my 8th ford vehicle since 1999 with 6 of them Mustang GT’s, and 1 Shelby GT 500. My 2010 FX2 with the 5.4 had 134k miles when I traded for a 2015 Mustang GT. It was a flawless truck with only the bulk head seal leaking on the transmission at 100k miles. My raptor has had the phaser issue, but hopefully with the new design phasers, it can last a while longer. With all that being said, my next vehicle I want to try out will be a Lexus. I want to experience the quality and luxury without breaking the bank.
Raptor and Ford in general are overpriced garbage. I have a 2014 Tundra with over 100K miles and have done nothing over the 10 years of ownership except change the oil every 5k miles. Tundra is the only truck I will own, and I will NOT buy the new Tundra, because they put in a V6 with turbochargers... crap!
@@Nobamaable It will definitely be my LAST Ford truck. I won’t buy another one. As for the Mustang, 2015 - 2017 is my only pick. I just picked up a 2007 Camry 5-speed manual for my new work commuter. I love it!
I was a used car technician at an Acura dealership a few years ago, and nearly every Ford we got had some kind of issue that I had never experienced from such low mile vehicles. Plus working on them was never a good experience. Me and the other used car tech would play rock paper scissors on who would get the Ford. When we would get Toyotas or Hondas, I was surprised at how little they needed, even when you could tell they lived a hard life and had high miles. I quickly realized I never wanted to own a Ford and I would warn all my friend to stay away from them. I have a 2014 Tundra that I bought with 40k miles. It now has 145k and the only thing I've had to do besides regular maintenance was replacing the rear shocks because one gave out and replaced the cabin air fan which took 15 min to replace. I really hope Ford gets the quality issues figured out because I want to support American vehicles and Ford does make some badass looking vehicles, but I refuse to purchase a depreciating asset that it poorly made and can't be trusted.
My experience is the opposite. I work on all of our family's vehicles and the biggest POS that is also the hardest to fix has been a very gently driven Toyota Highlander. Control arm bushings falling apart and requiring the motor lifted off all engine mounts to replace, sensors going bonkers, non-greasable 4WD driveshaft literally seizing and twisting off, brake calipers seizing, suspension breaking, radiator leaking, valve covers leaking, etc, etc, etc... all under 120k miles and with a great maintenance record. Everything is a royal PITA to replace, because the Toyota eggheads obviously don't want you to work on it. My Ford trucks never needed nearly as much work as that thing did, at that low of a mileage. CONCLUSION : Toyota is overrated AF! 👎
But here's the big but, there are so many more f150's than any other vehicle. Every state department, construction company, law enforcement, literally every one has a ford. You will see more issues because there are so many more out there
Great video! The last 3 minutes where you talk about your own Ford truck and the problems you’ve had really hits hard for so many of your dedicated followers. I guarantee someone at Ford is watching this. Question is, will they care??
I'm sure the engineers care, it's the bean counters and financial departments that shut things down. Gotta save that $1.37 per vehicle, can't let those profit margins drop. Clowns 🤡🎪
My husband “was” a Ford guy and Ford dropped the ball with us with the problems F350 diesel 2003 Super Duty that we bought new in 2003. He was so proud of that truck driving it on job sites and the sound of the roar of the diesel engine until when the heads would keep blowing out and they wouldn’t honor the warranty back then. He still has the vehicle but he had to break the engine down to the block and rebuild it with the help of his dad who’s a mechanic and put in better parts. We gave them too many chances after that and now we had Ford buy back our 2017 Focus EV this week because of a faulty battery and they couldn’t replace it. It’s sad because we did love the brand but now we are looking else where.
They wont care, this is on purpose. Why are there no mid sized trucks, anymore, the demand is there, but automakers are FORCING these large, overpriced POS' to us, on purpose. No reason there should be there are NO MID SIZED TRUCKS....period.
i once owned a toyota dually... it was used but MY GOD it was a horrible truck. i still remember how we used to bail out of it wondering if it were going to catch on fire.
It always bothered me that Honda never made a small economical truck, 4cyl rear wheel manual, back in the golden days of the Nissan Hardbody and Toyota pickups of 80s-90s. Honda could have made some awesome little trucks.
I believe a company is responsible for their manufacturing engineering defects… they need to stand by 100% Ford automotive is in the company there once were in our engineering defective equipment. Lead to another issue that the US government should have forced them to recall ! Our government is gone to hell 🇺🇸
I live in Montreal, Canada. When you drive on the streets, you see mostly Japanese vehicles, followed by German, Korean and finally American cars. Yesterday I saw a well maintained 40 year old Toyota Tercel moving just fine.
It's not a matter of can, it's a matter of effort and commitment to get it right. All three US big brands have issues and that's what happens when you couple the corporate profit drive with UAW union workers "I don't give a sht attitude" towards pride in their work.
Back in 2001, as a high school graduate present my parents got me a 01 Mustang V6. Was cheaper than the last year of Ford Escorts. Brand new off the lot, after 6 months of driving it, 1/2 the dashboard went out. Under warranty and got it fixed (the Ford dealership claimed it was just the chips). After the fix, another 3 months of driving, a little puff of smoke comes out of the steering wheel and 1/2 the dashboard goes out again. After that, I swore that I would never own another Ford Vehicle.
Dang my mom had 01 v6 mustangs yellow hahaha. She got over 215k miles on it before she traded it for a pos jeep Edit: she had zero issues. Just regular maintenance.
For Real Tacoma's are good Trucks, My Bro has a 4 Wheel Drive Tacoma with over 200,000 Miles no problems, at all it's a 2019 as well, we have driven that Bad Boy way up to Wyoming, Montana, Canada , and never a problem, plus it's been all over East Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana, and we go way out on Fishing Camping Trips, all the time, Truck is totally reliable.
You cannot force the customer to purchase these vehicles. If the dealers want these vehicles gone, they must come back down to reality. Hence, "greed" must be taken out of the equation. Nuff said.
They need to reduce it by the price of a new engine and the price of a new transmission because that's what you going to need if you buy one of these vehicles Ford Chevy Dodge GMC 5 straight years of garbage with highly inflated prices
Agreed. I'm on my third Ford in the last 12 years and the first two were amazing. I have a Bronco sport that I love but one of the electronic modules had to be replaced with within the first 30000 miles. I've seen other things posted similar on every trim level. I'm concerned that Ford quality is diminishing. I hope they get it together because I love their vehicles.
I have a 7.5L 460 big block Ford from 1994 sitting at about 105k miles. The thing still runs great, very reliable and runs no matter what. Only problem is the manifold bolts like to keep coming loose, so will be installing some headers soon. No issues otherwise, even started right up in -20 degrees one morning in a Wisconsin snow storm. Go back to building them like that.
My 2001 Ford King Ranch is my farm truck. I've pulled huge loads of lumber and dirt, hauled tons of tree debri to the dump, and pulled tree stumps out many, many times. I've even pulled my tractor out after I got it stuck in the mud to the axles. I love my Ford truck. I'm loyal to Ford but, if they're building junk, I'll go with a toyota or something else.
My brother owned a 2019 F150 XLT he bought new and had a list of issues with it. The final nail in the coffin was the 10 speed transmission failing at 25k miles. He had taken a Ford tech on a test drive to show them the problem and the shift linkage on the truck actually came apart, leaving him and the ford tech stranded. Luckily he was near the dealership and the service manager sent all the techs out to push his truck back to the lot. He traded it in shortly after.
My 2018 Mustang Ecoboost convertible with the 10 Speed had to have the trans replaced at 45k miles. I’ve had $10k in repairs in the 1.5 years I’ve owned it (covered by Carmax Maxcare thank god.) I’m going to get a Toyota RAV4 prime and get rid of this clunker.
The chevy 1500s are not much better if any. Brother inlaws trans went out on his 2019 at 38k and somthing eles too i cant remember radiator or water pump. My 2000 5.3 is getting cheaper now that the rear main leaks no oil change just add some here and there.😂
@@subaruamazon FORD= Fix...Or....Replace.....Daily! Of the 50 or so vehicles I have owned in my 63yrs of driving, MOST have been Fords. I too USED to LOVE Ford products, but not anymore. Ford's quality really seemed to go downhill after 2010. I may not EVER return to Ford!
As a loyal ford owner for most of my adult life I can 100% agree with you and your frustrations. I currently own 3 newer ford models . A 2020 F-450 , A 2022 FORD EXPEDITION PLATINUM, AND a 2021 Mustang Mach1 . Our truck and our expedition has been repeatedly in the shop for electrical issues . My wife uses the F-450 for hauling her gooseneck horse trailer . It had an electrical issue where she would be driving down the road and it would literally just die ! Talk about scary! It went to the dealer 3 times for this . The expedition has had multiple camera issues and has been at the dealer a total of a month to repair . Both these vehicles currently have around 10,000 miles on them . Sad when you spend all this money to purchase your dream cars and all you end up doing is driving to and from the dealer for recall after recall and issue after issue . And on a side note . I am a retired 40 year Automotive technician. The issue on our F-450 where it was cutting off I ended up diagnosing and telling them what was wrong . They were convinced it was the powertrain control module . But thanks to a few close friends that are still in the game and honestly a few great RUclips channels it was properly diagnosed as a bad fuse block ! After all these issues I can honestly tell you that we will never own another FORD product .
Brandon, what you said is correct about consumer confidence in Ford. The dealerships are complicit in the downfall and lack of confidence in the Ford product. They are notorious for not wanting to perform warranty work and will mislead the customer until the issue is out of warranty and thus the owner must now come out of pocket to repair. Certainly the “market adjustments” are simply a greedy grab for money. Where’s the clear markdowns now for “market adjustments” in a downturned economy. These dealers are one way, not your friend, and predatory!
Can confirm. I have a handful of issues with my 2021 raptor and it’s like trying to figure out nuclear launch codes to get dealers to fix them. Some problems are even documented issues. I’m on my 5th visit for shock clunk and 6th for a trouble code. I’m about ready to get rid of it
Ford had better realize that the best selling truck brand got there because of durability and reliability. My '95 F150 is rock solid dependable and the air still blows cold. Nothing major has been needed, just routine maintenance. She's got 168000 on the clock and still runs great. When vehicles fall apart despite diligent routine maintenance it's not only a disappointment. Because of the ridiculously high prices, it can be devastating to a working family and their financial well being. Thanks for your post. As a life long Ford guy, it is very disappointing to know that my old pickup will probably outlive most of the $65,000.00 "wonders" sitting on that lot...
I bought a 1979 Ford F150 new in 1979. $7800 (I was 17). The first week having it, a front spring broke. Then we found out that the rear rocker arms werent getting oiled due to lack of oil pressure. I have never owned a Ford since. Over the last 35 years, I have owned, a Nissan Stanza, Maxima and Infiniti M35 . I bought a Toyota Tundra in 2017 and it runs like a champ. I learned as a project manager that Toyota implemented the Total Quality Management system from Deming. Speaks volumes
@@TheOzthewiz all major manufacturers make bad engines. Mine is a German built 4.0 very well built motor. Just does not give the mileage. Government has been putting pressure on them to make these motors. Why three cylinder? Because China tax 4 bangers. Lot of politics involve.
I stopped buying American cars a looong time ago due to quality control. Toyota has been my mainstay since. Im praying our car industry does better! Im rooting for them.
I’ve done the same. I used to own Ford products. Mercury Cougar, Ford Taurus and my last one was a 2010 Ford Escape that my daughter still drives. Once I heard of all the ecobomb engines having problems I never looked back. Bought my first Mazda CX9 and it has been outstanding. Not a single issue. Ford better get their act together before Americans decide to walk away for good.
I just drove a Ford everest in Costa Rica and can't believe it's not sold in North America. It was awesome. Felt solid. Proper 4x4. Had a bi turbo v6 but I was impressed. And ARB has alot of after market support for it
The sad thing is there isnt any vehicle today that is a quality product there all junk. I have been working for Toyota for 27 years now and our vehicle today wouldnt ever been shipped in the pass todays product is trash because everythng is made with crap parts from third party vendors who where the cheapes bid unlike years ago where we made everything in house of had a teir one supplier. its all about profits today not about quality.
How old is the Tundra, because Fords of the same vintage will run just as long. It's the newer stuff that is junk. My 2003 GMC has 250k miles and runs like top. I wouldn't touch a new one.
I have a 2019 F250 that’s had about 6 recalls mostly for minor issues! The last recall was for the steering damper which I believe was a safety issue that took years for ford to address. If Toyota built a heavy duty truck I would not own a ford, gm, or ram truck.
I can sadly relate . My 2018 Ford escape is a candidate for engine coolant intrusion issues ( costing $10,000 to repair ) around the 60,000 + mile mark . Not a confidence building feeling :(
That’s terrifying. I owned a 2018 Ford Escape, I traded it in after it went in for warranty repairs five times in one year. Reading your story makes me think I dodged a serious bullet.
Same, my 2018 escape blew the engine at 91,000 miles for the coolant issue Luckily, my brother can turn a wrench and he was able to switch out my engine to a brand new one I purchased directly from Ford . I can imagine you’re probably the same as me and this will be my last Ford I ever get New engine is eating oil and it’s not really helping the fact either. I got to get on Ford’s case on that.
My 2017 Ford Edge is having same issue .. its a known Ford problem and they doing nothing to help us .. They asking $8000.00 for new engine and i just paid off the vehicle… its a shame i love Ford , its my 7th Ford vehicle but no more
Was a Ford loyalist for over 30 years. I was in the market for an Explorer ST after replacing an engine in my 86k mile Echo Boost. Two dealerships had market adjustments and the one that didn't had 3 ST's they couldn't sell me because they were waiting for recall parts to arrive. Business went to another manufacturer.
@@tylerjoseph7378 no it wasn’t. I didn’t have two of the receipts for the maintenance done in the 5 years I owned it. So they hung their hat on that and said not under warranty. I was fine with it as I was in the market for a new car anyway and was gonna stick with Ford.
I had a 2020 explorer ST. Traded in after 1.5 years. Super hard shifts like transmission was going to blow. Yes its under warranty but I don't want to be stuck months without a loaner (some dealers dont give) waiting for parts and repairs.
Ford's quality went downhill fast after they sold off their stake with Mazda. Without Japanese support or advise, you have no reliability or quality control.
Thanks Brandon. Over 2000 comments so far. This episode really generated a lot of interest and many horror stories. I had 86 and 94 Rangers, both good trucks. I had 2004, 2013 and 2018 F-150s, all FX4s and V8s. Never had a major problem but none were high mileage vehicles. Traded the 18 for a 23 Titan Pro 4X with the old school V8. The F-150s are way too expensive now. After hearing the horror stories about almost all brands, I'm going to out go out and pray over the Titan. Before I downsized from a 5th wheel to a travel trailer I had several Ram 2500s but I kept trading every couple of years or so before they had the dreaded emissions problems. Now all diesels have DEF and supposedly emissions systems are less of a problem. But there's no real need for a HD diesel unless you're towing heavy.
My 2017 F150 XLT FX4 with a Boss plow has been great. Just turned over 100K. Just replaced the first part other than brakes and tires, a right front wheel bearing. I have not heard good thing about the new ones though.
69 years old. MY BIGGEST problem has always been crooked dealers that don't want to honor warranties. Now, Ford and other manufacturers can apply a lot of pressure to bad dealers, but they DON'T because they think they can always get new customers.
I had a 2017 F150...what you said about yours is exactly what mine did. It was my first Ford, and it will be my last: I traded that sucker and didn't look back.
NOT to minimize, the 2017 - 2020 3.5 had cam phaser issues at around 120K and up... all other years 3.5 lasts forever without issues, and ALL 2.7's and 5.0's last forever as well...
I’ll never buy a GMC again. We’ve had $13,000+ of repairs in known problems for our stupid truck. First the fuel system had to be replaced because they put in crappy pumps and then a def sensor had to be replaced. Luckily, the last one was a recall that but was unknown by all dealerships we called. Finally, one looked further into it and fixed it for us. Add Ford to the list I’ll never buy from. Honestly, if it wasn’t for our RV, I’d love to never have a truck again.
Most of the sales declines are because of price less so about the quality. However, quality is a problem and is a problem for multiple manufacturers. There are no entry-level prices for actual consumers. The dealers/manufacturers are trying to sell to a limited rich clientele.
Yes people look over the quality a bit… it’s the interest rates… a60k truck at 0.9-2.9% they are only charging you 1200-3500 in interest over the whole loan, now that same amount at 8%+ they care charging you 12-15,000 .. the payments 3-400 more a month… people can’t afford this no more… food had tripled in 4 short years, that comes first once all the household bills are paid- there’s nothing left for a 1200 truck payment
@@toddprater14Honestly, I'll probably never know what it's like to own a new car. Just when I felt like I could see the light at the end of the tunnel and things were finally taking a turn in my favor, all my years of working the same job was finally paying off, this happens. I'm now watching every bit of progress I made slowly slip away, week after week. I've done everything I can to stop it, there's nothing. It's a dream, and that's all it ever will be.
@@jimdandy8119 true , that’s why you live below your means , your not missing anything special about a new car/ truck yeah it has 6 miles on it, but they are crap now.. go find a loaded up older vehicle with low mileage and it will be a 1/4 the cost of a new one
@@toddprater14 Way ahead of you. I have 3, all paid for and running, and I know how to work on them myself. It's really just me seeing something I know everyone in my family going back to my great grandparents got to experience that I never will. I'm not real tore up about it or anything, just find it a bit sad that's all.
I got rid of my 2019 Raptor just before 36000 miles. Was flawless during that time. However, I did not want to keep it past the bumper to bumper warranty. Traded for a 2921 F150xlt and got money back. That one had a baring whine right from the start. After 6 months I sold it after lack of use. Smoothest riding truck by far but I don’t trust new vehicles anymore. Now I drive older cars that I can easily fix myself and cost nothing to insure.
I've always been a die hard Ford guy but I'm not a fan of the ecoboost engines. Nothing but issues with mine. Coworkers have issues with theirs too. Our 6.7 diesel work truck has had nothing but problems. I bought a Ram and have had no issues.
Ford replaced the cam phaser 3 times for free on wife’s 2013 Ford escape starting at less than one month from purchase. So we got a lemon too. Under the hood was 90% plastic.
I had an 08 Expedition that had cam phaser issues at 110k. So ok, I bought a 17 expedition. Phaser rattle at 75k. Both trucks were meticulously maintained. Needless to say, both are gone and my new truck is not a domestic brand. I will never buy another Ford.
@tcluke1971 That's really what really gets me, two different engine families (5.4L Triton 3V assuming for the '08 and 3.5L EB for the '17) that have the exact same problem!
The best way to get back at them for the markups is to save the amount they would've charged when you looked last and use that for non-dealer repairs on your existing vehicle. Make that your "extended warranty" and wait until after you've spent that on repairs before considering even a used vehicle again.
I just traded my 2018 F-450 King Ranch custom build from ford for a 2024 Tundra. I had 27, 717 actual miles due to the following issues. Like you, it was my dream truck. Most of these issues were after the warranty expired and the list is not in order of failure or issue. * Transmission failure and replaced at 727 miles/3 weeks old, yes 727 miles *Power steering pump whining *Starter bolts sheared *Starter replaced due to failure of hardware *Windshield washer reservoir failure *Right rear door handle switch failure (always showed as open on dash) *Steering wheel control module failure *Windshield washer motor failure (3 years after resev) *Steering wheel clock spring failure *Dash tailgate open switch intermittently (2 ford dealers could not fix this) *Rubber chunks coming off front tires (@ 14,000 miles) *One of the 2 batteries failure within 10 months *Heavy rust from front crossmember frame (chunks) front motormount frame *Smell of burnt clutch after normal driving (within the last year *Charge air hose rupture *Rear main seal leak *Hood struts failed (replaced) *Blind spot detection system failure(this past Christmas Day, this is when I decided I've had enough) *Cross traffic warning system failure (Christmas Day) * Roof trim at the back window coming off Remember, this was a custom (built to show status) 2018 F-450 King Ranch with 27,717 miles The UAW is more interested in their big benefits grab than building a quality vehicle. I to am finished with Ford and any other "American made" vehicle for ever.
I’m having a similar experience with Jeep. This one is probably my last. Dad drove Jeep. Grand paw drove Jeep. Just too many trips back to the dealership. Even under warranty, it’s just a hassle getting a rental, and not driving the car I paid for.
Was thinking of replacing 2011 F150 ecoboost xlt 4x4 but the newer ones are way too complicated and computerized so I will drive it until a major breakdown and perhaps just repair it. Replaced the battery and throttle body once and that is all! Just maintenance. Great truck.
I was a Ford guy. My 2019 Escape got totaled with hail damage. It had 54000 miles. I got out of it before the Ecoboost engine started to fail after 60000 miles like I've been reading about. I am now the owner of a 2023 Toyota Tacoma. Oh yea those Ford commercials were they say they're all in on America BS.
My wife and I bought a brand new F150 XLT FX4 V8 on Christmas Eve 2018. The MSRP was around $41,000 with markups to $44,000. Told the dealership I wasn’t going to pay the markup fees. They took them off and we got the truck for a little under $38,000. Recently looked at a similar model and they were asking almost $68,000 for it!!! Unbelievable!!!
My next door neighbors son. Just brought a FORD lighting. EV . It’s a beautiful looking truck. He was towing his boat last week… and his back axle came OFF !! True story!!! I couldn’t believe it
Been this way with Ford and GM for decades. I worked as a mechanic, so I saw it firsthand. I switched to Toyota years ago. Perfect example: I had 2 cars, a ford fusion and a toyota Rav4. Fusion has a plastic valve cover, rav4 metal valve cover. Plastic is cheaper, metal is more expensive. Guess which one I had recurring problems with oil leaks from the valve cover gasket? Plastic valve covers will warp from the heat. Ford will screw their customers to increase their bottom line by a few bucks. And Farley is now hiring a new quality team? What happened to the old quality team? Why only now is quality becoming a priority? I think this speaks volumes about the priorities and motivations of management at Ford.
I bought a 2020 Ranger and it has had numerous issues, mostly minor but still frustrating when you have to drop your vehicle off three or four days before they can even look at it. I work out of my truck and can't just drop it off for a week every time I have an issue. First issue was a driveline squeal that they could never duplicate which eventually stopped, the second was the front camera went down preventing lane keep assist, front crash warning and no cruise control. That took months to fix due to not being able to get an appointment for them to look at it. The third was a transmission issue that threw codes that could never be retrieved so they couldn't do anything for me, and lastly it now has a fuel sending unit issue giving a check engine light every time I fill the truck up. Like I mentioned I just can't drop my truck off for a week for them to look at it. I know that Kias get a lot of hate but my family has owned eleven Kias with absolutely zero issues during time of ownership which is typically three-four years. Ford was at the top of the food chain 5-10 years ago but they can't stay there with their current QC. Lastly let's not forget about how great their SYNC system works, total garbage.
I like the looks of the Ford F-150, a good friend bought a 2022 Ford F-150 and has had monumental problems with the drivetrain, and body integrity. His insurance is higher because of the aluminum body, which he found out the hard way when having a repair after somebody rear-ended the truck and then took off.
I purchased my first Ford vehicle (F150) before the prices skyrocketed. I absolutely LOVE this truck. For some reason, after several years of being very happy with the repair department, it totally "Went South" ! The repair quality & price for crappy repair was high. When they made very inconvenient mistakes that cost me to have to tow back to the dealer (1 hour after being serviced). They fixed their mistake and promised to pay for the towing cost, NEVER DID! So I changed dealer repair franchise, wasn't happy, planned a third dealership in my area but saw ratings and comments from furious customers. Since Ford has such PATHETIC repair personnel and management, I will NEVER risk purchasing another Ford product again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like your "confession" at the 11th minute mark. I bought a 2012 Ford Fiesta DCT for y daughter. Needless to say how pissed off I was with numerous issues. ECU, Water pump, AC condenser and at that point the car had only done 25K mies. NO ore Ford and I WANT THEM TO GO BANKRUPT BADLY!
I was a Ford guy for the longest time. But reliability is my main thing. So the first new truck I ever bought new, was a ToyotaTacoma, over 130,000 no issues at all, other then new pads and rotors. Rear brakes.
@@vegasstang1 Maybe, but people who do their own maintenance tend to have vehicles last longer. I easily get that amount of mileage out of any of the various vehicles I've owned.
@@joemoore4027the Toyota Tacoma is basically an American truck since they’re ALL made in America. Toyota obviously makes these trucks for America since Japan doesn’t have the space for it
My daughters dream vehicle was a 2021 Ford Bronco, and she makes great money and generally good decisions. She called me one Saturday to go look at a new 2021 Bronco and away we went. My first impression when I got in it was "looks cheaply made", but she was excited and away we went on the test drive. When we got back to the dealership I told her she maybe ought to think it over for a few weeks and how I felt it felt a bit underwhelming to me. But she's an adult and was ready to put her money down. So dear ole dad went into negotiation mode and got her a pretty good deal on it. She had it just over 2 months when the engine light came on and it wouldn't idle at stop lights without feathering it. She took it in and they had to order a part that took 2 weeks to get??? Meanwhile they left her with no loaner, so I let her borrow my 1996 F250. 2 weeks later the bronco is ready to be picked up. 3 weeks later she said it was making a really loud noise only when cold and backing up. I thought it was the brakes, so back it went. Took them about 3 hours to tell us "that's normal". I had some words with the service manager, but nothing was done about it. Days later as I am pursuing a better answer from Ford on the issue her GPS stopped working correctly. Back to the shop it went and she had to wait nearly 3 weeks for the new infotainment center to arrive. When they installed it they left a screw or 2 out and it rattled, so back again to fix that... I got no where on the cold backing squeaking sounds it made... A month and half later she was was driving back from a day at the beach and called me crying on the side of the road. She said she was driving along, and the engine temp light popped on along with the engine light and before she could pull over the engine just quit running... We had it towed to the dealership since Fords roadside service could not get someone to tow it that evening. The next morning I got to take a look at it and the lower coolant hose was off and had no signs of a clamp or ever having a clamp on it, engine was seized. The Bronco had 4,100 miles on it at this point. I blew up and demanded they give her the money she put down and had paid plus the value of her trade and take the car and shove it up their arse. They wanted to look at it and came to the same conclusion I did, no hose clamp was ever installed on the bottom hose. They wanted to replace the engine but would take 3 months minimum with no loaner. I had to call a lawyer friend of mine, but she ultimately got all the money paid plus trade in value for her old car and bought a very nice new 2023 Kia Sportage X-line and has not a single problem, complaint or regret a year later. Yeah, don't buy a new Ford. They have 0 quality and 0 concern about it anymore. The fact Kia gives 100k warrantee and makes a car 10x better and much cheaper than a mid - premium Ford is shocking to me to this day, but it is absolutely the truth. That doesn't mean I'll be getting rid of 1996 F250 5.8L, 280k mile truck, it's been a great trouble free truck and still looks good, but clearly Ford's quality policies are not what they were in 1996.
Yeah, clearly didn't work out the bugs on the Bronco ... to be fair, Kia's / Hyundai (same company) had/have thousands of engines where the head bolts come loose / strip out ...thus partially or completely destroying engine, along with thousands of their cars catching on FIRE for multiple causes... but at least they made good and replaced engines and not made excuses. Really lame a coolant hose clamp was forgotten on vehicle... probably a rare fluke on that.
Traded my wife 20 Escape we bought brand new. It left her stranded multiple times and I actually thought with the amount of time the money light was on the bulb would go out. Plus last summer it was in the dealer for recall issues 7 weeks. Last straw was yes the new program for the last re all probably caused the cats to go bad. I actually felt bad for the service advisor, she was fantastic, but I know she HATED calling me with the news on it.
I'll stick to my '66 Ford Galaxie 500 and '77 Lincoln Mark V. Cheap parts, relatively easy to find, easy to repair and maintain, and I don't have much for electrical to be a worry.
I'd comment more, but it's pretty much exactly what you said. Been a ford owner since 1977, most recent is a 2017 that is great.. Not because of loyalty, but because they produced what I wanted and generally didn't fail me. Unlikely that my next purchase will be a ford.
I was in the market for used full sized truck 2 years ago. I test drove about 2 dozen trucks and it quickly became evident that the Ford's had issues, especially the 6 cylinder twin turbos. In my experience, the Toyota's were all overpriced, the GM's were so-so in that they didn't quite have the nicest interiors. I ended up getting lucky with finding a '17 RAM Lariat that the dealership didn't realize was a lariat. Heated/cooled seats, nav, tow package, and air ride suspension. The truck has been a beast since then. I even used the air suspension to lift a 35' x 3 culvert pipe out of the ground. It tows all of our trailers no problem and has been nice even on long 8+ hour drives. Best thing is I'm never going to be upside down on its value. My friend who bought a used '17 F150 at the same time has had multiple issues with it. On the other hand, we also have a '22 Maverick XLT and it has been fine. Two recalls for a seatbelt and a radio update. 35K miles on it already and so far, no major issues.
One of the reasons for Ford’s demise will surely be its sub-par and expensive service. For the same issue in my car, the dealership gave me a quote of $1300, whereas a certified family own service shop asked for $600. As an exploited Ford owner, I would be ecstatic to see Ford suffer.
1st hand knowledge here. Ford just gave me a turn in date (dec 2) for my 2023 Ranger buy back "repurchase" Problems: 800 miles-oil leak, oil filter not properly installed at factory. 4k miles- brake pedal goes to floor. 6k miles- differential blew up dealer had it for 5 weeks rebuilding it. 6k miles steering gear failing needs rebuilt/replaced. Also transmission has slammed into gear 2x (not taken back to dealer as buy back was in the works). 8k miles- entertainment system has failed, screen black, truck can't communicate with app. App can't find truck. Really sad, had a 2020 Ranger 100k miles no issues unit the crappy 10 speed trans blew up. I should have kept it.
Toyotas are overpriced but at least they last forever. I've never owned one but I've always had reliable Japanese cars, and in 30 years of driving I've never had any major mechanical issues. When I do have issues, they are usually pretty affordable to fix.
I don't like Ford. Feels cheap. But I finally went in to buy a 2 door bronco black diamond edition. They wanted 15k over sticker and won't even let me test drive it. Thank you Westfield Ford in countryside Illinois.
The price gouging issue has to be regional. I’d been looking for a new truck for almost two years before I finally bought a new F150 XLT loaded in September. Paid 16% under MSRP. During that entire period of time I never came across gouging with Ford at any dealer. Toyota on the other hand was worse. Basically 5k to 10k market adjustments everywhere I looked in New England.
So in the end you only over paid on your Ford 26%. Good job. You'll know why when you start having to deal with the truck being in the shop for weeks on end while they can't figure out your $5000 tail light short due to water. Good luck there buddy. I have a feeling you are going to need it. They look nice but they are LOADED with bad design issues.
Great content and I appreciate your honesty. I also currently own a Ford F150, and I have to agree with you that quality is an issue. Drive train issues, speed sensor issues, and throttle body issues, just to name a few. As a long-time consumer of Ford trucks, I am yearning for a serious turnaround with the Ford brand. Like others, I am beyond fed up with the costly repairs and warning signs on the dashboard.
Quality has always been an issue with Ford and a few other brands. They only care about short term profits and not building a good, long term, vehicle.
I don't mind Ford. The thing that gets me is a brand new maverick is about $25k but if you want to go buy a used one.......expect to pay $35k. It's everywhere. Who the heck is paying that when you can order a new one for way less.
Aside of the quality issues (though my 2009 5.4L Lariat that I bought used has been excellent), the astronomical prices of the current trucks and cars have priced me out of the market altogether. I'm near retiring, and apparently I'm going to be riding the bus in retirement!
Hear me out. I wonder if this is by design to (largely form government interference) to disincentivize vehicle ownership altogether. We all hope there will be a market correction and there may be one, however, what if the prices stay where they are. No one can afford these insane prices that have meager financial means. US government in league with the UN want to push 15 min cities, meaning public transport. They (government) ultimately don't want commoners to own vehicles or really anything for that matter. Just a thought.
We have a friend who bought a new Ford and after one month, it went to the shop and was literally there for months from engine issues… It’s crazy. The number you said of how much they’re spending on recalls/warranties, woah.😳 Fun fact, our dealership spot actually was a Ford Dealership for over 30 years before getting shut down! We have a lot of loyal Ford people in our town but we see that changing with the quality issues that’s for sure.
I'm hearing that about RAM and Chevy too lately. Another channel I follow had several Chevy techs talking about new trucks throwing rods pulling them off the truck to prep for sale. Ram's Ecodiesel were blowing engines because they haphazardly threw a Euro spec Italian diesel in it that was never designed for our emissions systems. Their fixes included changing the oil spec and detuning it so it felt like an 80s garbage truck taking off from the stop light. They are having cam and lifter issues on both of them (and some Fords too). I suspect they may be buying parts from the same lowest bidder for all 3 brands. My 14' Jeep GC with the 3.0 diesel engine seized up at 64K miles, just 4k miles after the dealer replaced the EGR cooler that was recalled and melted my intake manifold, a valve cover, injector tubes and damaged my turbo hoses. They also had to replace the front main seal for the 2nd time since new, a brake booster, windshield squirters fell apart, windshield cowl dried out and disintegrated, leather dash board delaminated 2x all in the first 5 years. My extended warranty has paid over $18K and counting, still have 11 months left. My new engine has 21K on it and runs fine, but seems to be using a lot of oil and I've had to add coolant to it 2x, despite not finding any leaks. Dealer says no leaks, HG issues or codes. It's a great ride and gets great mileage (less so after EPA retune) but I'm losing any trust in it to go on long trips, which is what we bought it for. I don't think the big 3 are going to survive much longer. They are hemorrhaging money and their vehicles are getting too expensive, too unreliable and too hard to service. Their only chance is to automate more and pass along some savings, improve quality and offer 10/100 warranties like Kia/Hyundai. If they did that now they'd go broke in no time, but if they spend a little more on good parts and show confidence in their products with a warranty then they might be able to compete. Don't see it happening.
I've heard the new Bronco has a lot of issues. To bad they didn't over-design this to bring back the trust in the brand. I was a loyal Dodge fan for years but never again, after 8 years they just fall apart. They make it easy to assemble but it makes it very hard to repair.
@@Happy11807 That is surprising as they all have inherent issues, and Ram has always had issues with transmissions, weak differentials compared to Ford & Chevy, and the dashboards literally disintegrate in the 90s-early 2000s. The new ones are really nice with great ride and performance, but they are still having issues. Ford & Chevy in the 80s also had very crappy transmissions, but both brands were extremely very reliable in the 90s and early 2000s. Most of the issues now are due to over engineering and planned obsolescence. They put electronics on everything, when often a simple linkage cable would suffice. They use too much plastic on the drivetrain (intake manifolds, oil pans, etc.) and run the engines hotter for emissions reasons and all that plastic breaks down too fast. They have variable cam/valve timing and MDS that seems to starve the top end for oil. This happens more now on Ram and Chevy, but was a huge issue for the 3V Triton from 2004-2010. It's still an issue for Ford too, but not as much at the moment (7.3 is showing some signs of lifer/cam issues though). They all make them really hard to service. Some of them need the cab pulled just to make what used to be routine repairs. Toyota has historically been very reliable, largely because they stuck with old, proven technology rather than always being at the forefront of designing new gadgets. They didn't have the best fuel economy or win many races, but they would boringly lug along forever. They are just now starting to go with small boosted engines after letting everyone else do the trial and error research and come in after the bugs are worked out. They save a lot on R&D and also don't have the UAW or pension load of the domestics, so they have more resources to put toward quality. That said, they have had some issues on some years and made a few hard to service turds (v8 with timing belt, remove the whole intake system to get to the starter, etc.) and they've had some differential issues on some years of Tacoma. They do stand behind their products better though, and will extend warranties or courtesy repairs much more than the domestics. They value their reputation and play the long game. GM actually argued in court that they should not have to pay to replace all their faulty transmissions on a model because the warranty terms are for mfg defects not design flaws. They said the faulty transmissions were designed that way and built to spec, so they weren't defective. I'm sure Ford pulled the same crap with their DCTs. Toyota on the other hand replaced frames on well out of warranty vehicles when they had rust issues. It's a corporate culture issue.
@@Happy11807 You’re in one of the smallest minorities, dude. And your friends with bad Toyotas are in the smallest minority. Rams are a little worse than Chevrolets and much worse than Fords. Count your blessings, as your Ram is doomed.
Agreed. I bought a pre-covid Ranger, and have had zero issues at 51k miles. Added Ford Performance tune, level, and Roush exhaust. Love the truck, but wouldn’t buy a Ford now. Not looking to sell in this market.
I've had 2 Fords in my lifetime. A 2000 Ranger that I leased in 2000. No issues for 5 years. Great truck. 2nd one was a 2008 Crown Vic that I bought from The California Highway Patrol in 2011. 140k miles. I paid $2300 at auction. Ran like a tank for 55k miles and 9 years. Gaskets finally wore out and I had to replace them. Ended up trading it in. It served me well.
IMO that speaks more for regular maintenance than anything else. you took care of that lease and the chp services their vehicles routinely (i assume.) in the end it comes down to cheap parts at mass scale. most cars will put up with a little abuse but when they're made as cheaply as physically possible you get a pickup truck with a reputation like this.
Yep Ford always stops making reliable cars. For cars that are terrible. Sorry trucks, The don’t make cars anymore because they can’t sell them for $100k
I've worked as a tech at ford dealerships for 21 years and you pretty much summed it up perfectly
As a tech, who the hell wants to do cut rate warranty work all day. You would go broke!
i just bought a 01 mustang 4.6 it is pretty good.
@@Dan-gj1hz ford used to pay a lot better on warranty work than gm or chrysler, not anymore
@@subaruamazon 4.6 is a solid engine
@christophert844 So is the S550 5.0😉. I've got 45k miles on it and not one problem and I'm not gentle with it all the time either.
Sold my 2022 F-350 dually and just sold my 2020 F-350. Theres a lot I could say about my experience, but it will suffice to say I won't ve buying another Ford truck...ever.
One mans trash is another mans treasure
@@JeffSh00ts Sure going to miss my membership in the "Ford Recall of the Month" program, but I will learn to live without it.
No, it’s another man’s trash LOL
Ford tough lol
At Ford quality is job #1 , liars
This started in 1998-I worked for a company that supplied electronic compoenents to FORD. They had a program (to improve quality) called "Six Sigma" (after the statistical number for 3.7 PPM defect rates. THis was very costly for the vendors to initiate-it required audits, extra hires, generation of worthless statistics, etc. We finally got it-only to be rewarded with demands for price cuts..they demaded 5% reductions per year. This made sales to FORD unprofitable and led to many suppliers dropping out. FORD started buying from cheap Chinese suppliers...end of story. They brought this on themselves.
80 grand for a 45 grand truck. Good luck Ford.
These trucks arent worth $40k
No doubt. Well put
The ranger is like 45k rn. It's laughable 😂😂
And there you have it, pretty much the whole car market 🤔
@@jmmywyf4lyfReally not. Maybe a 1 ton.
I just bought a Toyota Tundra. But I actually preferred the F150 with the interior space, the flat floor in the back seat area, the interior layout and the overall styling. But the quality issues stopped me from going through with a purchase. Plus the trucks in my area have been sitting on the dealer's lots for 8, 10, 12+ months. Many had dead batteries, were dirty inside and out and some had things not working properly. Not the thing a buyer wants to see when preparing to shell out the amount of coin it takes to buy a 1/2 ton truck these days. The Tundra I bought has a build date of 10/2023, was on the dealer's lot for 1 day and everything works as it should. Is the Toyota perfect? No. But it's miles ahead of f150.
A Tundra is also cheaper than a comparable F150 is it not? In Canada Tundra's are about 10K CDN cheaper than a comparable F150.
Toyota isn't perfect but they last far longer with far less issues and if there is an issue, they fix it. Toyota stands behind their product.
I bought a tundra over an f 150 eight years ago and I’ve been happy with that decision ever since. My truck has had zero issues - ever.
As my mechanic (an old school Chevy guy) recently told me that if you want to buy something you have to maintain, buy a Toyota.. if you want to buy some vehicle you have to fix all the time then buy something else.
Definitely not miles ahead with a hybrid turbo setup 😂😂😂 sounds like a nightmare in about 7 years
I was a Ford mechanic for over 30 years. I watched the things that Ford did to their customers over the years. I was part of a focus group that Ford started trying to fix some of the issues we saw in hopes of correcting them before they got to the customers. I am sad to say they did nothing we suggested. I purchased a Ford Ranger 4x4 new drove over 200,000 miles and never had an issue. Outside of an alternator nothing ever failed. I know people are going to call B.S. but that's my story believe it or not. The next truck I purchased was a Ford Explorer. I overhauled the transmission at 100,000 miles and it was my fault, I got stuck in a snow storm and burnt the transmission out of it. I ran that until almost 200,000 miles and the only reason I sold it I noticed a small oil leak at the rear main seal and figured it was time. Unfortunately, the only choices I had in a small/midsized pickup at that time were Chevy Colorado, Toyota, or Nissan, Ford had stopped making the Ranger and the Explorer. Toyota's were way over priced, didn't trust the Chevy, so I purchased a Nissan Frontier, it now has over 100,000 miles on it and so far, has been trouble free. After talking to other truck guys I can't see me going back to Ford again. granted I took care of my trucks, but even that doesn't mean anything today. It hurts me to say things negative about Ford products, I still own a Fox Body Mustang, but unless I see major changes in COST and Quality I am not going back.
Should have bought the Colorado. I switched to Chevy after 52 years of Ford. I love my Colorado.
@@romans828. It that with the sad 5.3 with AFM self destructing lifters or the pathetic 3.0 diesel that might replace the 6.0 power stroke as the worst engine ever put in a truck?
Good on you!
Lucky, most of those Colorado's/Canyon's are junk @@romans828.
I have a 1993 V6 Nissan King Cab with over 200K . It starts on a dime, and the only thing that has gone wrong was a battery cable. I rarely use it, but can't part with it either.
It's a shame that the main reason Ford is trying to improve quality is to cut down on recall costs instead of taking pride in their work and doing it right the first time around.
Your comment sums up the problem exactly. Pride is no longer a motivator or a goal, and sadly, hasn't been for many, many years.
Quality is no longer job one, it's profits.
Ford is in more trouble than they realize.
Quality doesn't cost,it pays.
Yup exactly that. Hence why I always stick with a Japanese Brand. Their work ethic and attention to quality cannot be beaten by any American auto manufacturer..
If you want a high price, then offer a longer warranty. Stand behind your brand and quality by backing it up with a 6 year 120k bumper to bumper warranty.
Damn good point. 👍
More like 80 month warranty to match the loans
That will never happen.
They make you pay for that and the fine print along with it. But yes your right. Make it standard.
I once had a bumper to bumper warranty with Chevy , I soon discovered not all the parts were between the bumpers !
I bought my first Ford in 2001 it is a 2000 F250 7.3 it had 60k on it and now has 280k looks and runs like new no oil use and I will drive until it dies it doesnt owe me anything . Great Show
Keep that gem forever!
Them talking about dealerships price gouging is a joke. The sticker on the window comes from the factory 2 and 2.5 times over the value of the vehicle. They got $70k stickers on $30k trucks. They can keep that junk.
Amen😂
Been that way for awhile. It's just gotten so bad now that a larger percentage of the population is being priced out. The used market is more delusional than the new.
@@ricklopez8431 The reliability really IS bad. If you want proof, check Consumer Reports Annual Auto issue.
GM trucks are not too far behind...
They BOTH price gouge, manufacturer and dealer, but the manufacturer is being semi-forced to do this by the federal gov't. This all started with CAFE rules and forced building of EV's, and none of those are money makers, so manufacturers have been progressively jacking the prices of low cost vehicles, mostly trucks, to cover the dev costs of the other crap.
You are 100% right, I worked at a Ford dealer last year and it was laughable what they push out.
F dealers and employees may as well milk it for all it's worth, don't think Ford will last to 2030.
Can you explain more why you say this?
@@Mrbfgraygovernment will bail them out
@@EldePHX Gotta fight bailouts, best hope is they are so diminished as to not be "too big to fail"...and we all raise hell.
Tad sad to see Big Three go down, but the only way markets can operate efficiently, fast and effective. F has a chance in some diminished form or colab.
Rural America few decades ago, we *relied on Sears.* Now forgotten and not missed, Sears was American Icon since 1900...fell behind new tech and got replaced.
@@EldePHX Lets hope not.
My September 2023 Ford issues:
2020 Expedition Max: Transmission went out at 33k miles. Took 5 weeks to rebuild.
2023 Ford F-150 Lariat: AC went out after 2 weeks. Fortunately the dealership that sold me the vehicle made it a priority to fix, but still took a week for parts to arrive and repair.
I will buy a different brand for my next vehicle.
2 weeks and the ac went out that’s just pathetic do they even test the vehicles at all?
Everyone is making overpriced junk these days.
I'm 82 years old back in the 1950's I bought a 1947 Ford for $ 75 the flat heads ran a long time, burnt oil but all was needed to keep them running was a couple wrenches and extra wire.
I owned a 1959 Ford F-100 in turquoise. It had a 292 V8 that ran like a top. Three speed on the tree manual. After some years, I finally sold it to a USMC buddy in 1983. He says it still runs like a top this very day!
Ford needs to get back to the basic and build a reliable vehicle! Like they did in the passed.
I commend you for even just being on RUclips lol
$ 75 would not get us the wrenches, the wire and oil to keep it running today.
I’ve got a 1950 Ford F1 Now they’re all plastic, over engineered crap
Ford/GM/Chrysler went through the same thing in the 70's. They lost a whole generation of car buyers that would never buy domestic. It took many years to fix, and now they are back to doing the same thing, turning out crappy vehicles. I've owned 5 Mustangs (1st was a 65 Fastback), several F250s, and various other cars. Latest car we purchased was a Toyota TRD and I don't see buying another Ford ever again. Both daughters had crappy Fords that they got rid of and are now happy with their Toyotas.
When I was a kid in the 70's my dad got a new Chrysler that broke down and left my mom and me stranded. I grew up swearing I'd never buy a Chrysler and I haven't.
Totally agree with you. In the 70's it was very poor quality combined with absolute total arrogance on the part of Ford/GM/Chrysler. The serious problem is that you lose customers that you will never get back. My last Ford purchase was in 1986, a brand new Mustang LX. A nightmare of a vehicle with a litany of problems starting on day two of my ownership. Never again, I said. I have been Ford free for 37 years now, and a Toyota owner for 36 years.
I’m with you
Toyota going down also. Don’t fool yourself, Toyota isn’t what it used to be.
The American industry is pretty much extinct (unless they get they're act together and start building high quality vehicles again).
2018 Raptor owner, I did cam phasers, water pump and thermostat at 85k miles. I upgraded the upper control arms to the Fabtech uni-ball style. Much beefier than stock. Sits on 37x13.50x 24’s. Changed spark plugs at 86k miles and they all looked really good. The 3.5 eco boost burns zero oil and I avg 13.5 mpg. Been a very good truck and has been on a few trips to the mountains. Very comfortable, roomy and rides very well even with the hard/heavy mud tires. As for the 10 speed transmission, when I first get in to drive, I put it in tow haul mode, and when the operating temp is reached after 10 miles or so, I take it out of tow. It helps eliminate the ‘skip shift’ roughness doing it this way. In summary, I like my raptor. It’s my 8th ford vehicle since 1999 with 6 of them Mustang GT’s, and 1 Shelby GT 500. My 2010 FX2 with the 5.4 had 134k miles when I traded for a 2015 Mustang GT. It was a flawless truck with only the bulk head seal leaking on the transmission at 100k miles. My raptor has had the phaser issue, but hopefully with the new design phasers, it can last a while longer. With all that being said, my next vehicle I want to try out will be a Lexus. I want to experience the quality and luxury without breaking the bank.
I’ve been looking at raptors but 13.5 mpg damn that might be a deal breaker for me
@@Turtle-sz7sk My mpg is less than factory specs bc I have the 37’s. And I’m lifted higher than stock which creates more wind drag.
Raptor and Ford in general are overpriced garbage. I have a 2014 Tundra with over 100K miles and have done nothing over the 10 years of ownership except change the oil every 5k miles. Tundra is the only truck I will own, and I will NOT buy the new Tundra, because they put in a V6 with turbochargers... crap!
@@Nobamaable It will definitely be my LAST Ford truck. I won’t buy another one. As for the Mustang, 2015 - 2017 is my only pick.
I just picked up a 2007 Camry 5-speed manual for my new work commuter. I love it!
@@NobamaableThe Tundra is not even a real truck. Slow underpowered gas guzzling ricer. Maybe that’s why the engines last slow dogs.
I was a used car technician at an Acura dealership a few years ago, and nearly every Ford we got had some kind of issue that I had never experienced from such low mile vehicles. Plus working on them was never a good experience. Me and the other used car tech would play rock paper scissors on who would get the Ford. When we would get Toyotas or Hondas, I was surprised at how little they needed, even when you could tell they lived a hard life and had high miles. I quickly realized I never wanted to own a Ford and I would warn all my friend to stay away from them. I have a 2014 Tundra that I bought with 40k miles. It now has 145k and the only thing I've had to do besides regular maintenance was replacing the rear shocks because one gave out and replaced the cabin air fan which took 15 min to replace. I really hope Ford gets the quality issues figured out because I want to support American vehicles and Ford does make some badass looking vehicles, but I refuse to purchase a depreciating asset that it poorly made and can't be trusted.
And, they want insane money for their junk trucks. No way.
My experience is the opposite. I work on all of our family's vehicles and the biggest POS that is also the hardest to fix has been a very gently driven Toyota Highlander. Control arm bushings falling apart and requiring the motor lifted off all engine mounts to replace, sensors going bonkers, non-greasable 4WD driveshaft literally seizing and twisting off, brake calipers seizing, suspension breaking, radiator leaking, valve covers leaking, etc, etc, etc... all under 120k miles and with a great maintenance record.
Everything is a royal PITA to replace, because the Toyota eggheads obviously don't want you to work on it. My Ford trucks never needed nearly as much work as that thing did, at that low of a mileage.
CONCLUSION : Toyota is overrated AF! 👎
But here's the big but, there are so many more f150's than any other vehicle. Every state department, construction company, law enforcement, literally every one has a ford. You will see more issues because there are so many more out there
BS! @@SevenSixTwo2012
My 98 ranger has 378k miles, nothing but regular maintenance
Great video! The last 3 minutes where you talk about your own Ford truck and the problems you’ve had really hits hard for so many of your dedicated followers. I guarantee someone at Ford is watching this. Question is, will they care??
I'm sure the engineers care, it's the bean counters and financial departments that shut things down. Gotta save that $1.37 per vehicle, can't let those profit margins drop.
Clowns 🤡🎪
My husband “was” a Ford guy and Ford dropped the ball with us with the problems F350 diesel 2003 Super Duty that we bought new in 2003. He was so proud of that truck driving it on job sites and the sound of the roar of the diesel engine until when the heads would keep blowing out and they wouldn’t honor the warranty back then. He still has the vehicle but he had to break the engine down to the block and rebuild it with the help of his dad who’s a mechanic and put in better parts. We gave them too many chances after that and now we had Ford buy back our 2017 Focus EV this week because of a faulty battery and they couldn’t replace it. It’s sad because we did love the brand but now we are looking else where.
oh good, ill skip to that.. he kept just repeating the same sentence over for the first 13 mins.
They wont care, this is on purpose. Why are there no mid sized trucks, anymore, the demand is there, but automakers are FORCING these large, overpriced POS' to us, on purpose. No reason there should be there are NO MID SIZED TRUCKS....period.
NO !
On my 3rd 1.5l Ecoboost. The car has less than 40,000 miles. Had one explode 7 days after it was installed. After 50 years this is my last Ford.
If Toyota or Honda ever came out with Heavy Duty truck lines they would make a killing.
i once owned a toyota dually... it was used but MY GOD it was a horrible truck. i still remember how we used to bail out of it wondering if it were going to catch on fire.
Toyota was going to release an HD truck. Not sure if it's still on the table? If so, I will he driving one.
Honda that's funny
It always bothered me that Honda never made a small economical truck, 4cyl rear wheel manual, back in the golden days of the Nissan Hardbody and Toyota pickups of 80s-90s. Honda could have made some awesome little trucks.
@@pezpengy9308 When did Toyota make a dually?
My friend tried to convince me to buy a newer Ranger over a Tacoma 2 years ago because it was “better” and I am so thankful I went with the Toyota.
I believe a company is responsible for their manufacturing engineering defects… they need to stand by 100% Ford automotive is in the company there once were in our engineering defective equipment.
Lead to another issue that the US government should have forced them to recall ! Our government is gone to hell 🇺🇸
I got a 2023 tacoma trd off road best truck ive ever had 😁
You can't beat Toyota for quality. Honda is great too but not for trucks. Toyota I think is the best company over all for reliability and cost to own.
I want one of their awd models with the v6 not turbo charged v4s. Too expensive today. May after I get my house
For ranger is expensive garbage. 😮
The trailer hitch cover on my GMC Sierra says: REMOVE TO TOW FORD
I live in Montreal, Canada. When you drive on the streets, you see mostly Japanese vehicles, followed by German, Korean and finally American cars. Yesterday I saw a well maintained 40 year old Toyota Tercel moving just fine.
That’s because American cars rust out in 3 years!
Yep, not a truck but I have two Mercedes and a Camry all with around 80K miles and no issues.
That was because it is 40 years old, case closed‼️
100 yrs of building vehicles and they still can't get it right.
It's not a matter of can, it's a matter of effort and commitment to get it right. All three US big brands have issues and that's what happens when you couple the corporate profit drive with UAW union workers "I don't give a sht attitude" towards pride in their work.
Far and away to much electronics and computers on board these days, over complicated.
Planned obsolescence!
They did build them right back in the 80s and early 90s when they started putting all the computerized junk is when it went bad
@@glyniscoleman4813And more plastic parts as well. 😅
Back in 2001, as a high school graduate present my parents got me a 01 Mustang V6. Was cheaper than the last year of Ford Escorts. Brand new off the lot, after 6 months of driving it, 1/2 the dashboard went out. Under warranty and got it fixed (the Ford dealership claimed it was just the chips). After the fix, another 3 months of driving, a little puff of smoke comes out of the steering wheel and 1/2 the dashboard goes out again. After that, I swore that I would never own another Ford Vehicle.
Dang my mom had 01 v6 mustangs yellow hahaha. She got over 215k miles on it before she traded it for a pos jeep
Edit: she had zero issues. Just regular maintenance.
Atleast you got a graduation present.
Got a brand new v6 handed to ya and you beat on it thinkin u had a cobra huh?😂😂😂
I’ll just stick with my 2019 manual trans Tacoma. 97,000 miles. Zero issues, not even a rattle.
get a bakbone...support the amer, full sizzed car company!!!!
Same - ‘12 manual trans ext cab Taco with 111,000 miles. Zero issues. Not even broken in yet.
@@scottbarker9058knock it off maybe America should build good vehicles
For Real Tacoma's are good Trucks, My Bro has a 4 Wheel Drive Tacoma with over 200,000 Miles no problems, at all it's a 2019 as well, we have driven that Bad Boy way up to Wyoming, Montana, Canada , and never a problem, plus it's been all over East Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana, and we go way out on Fishing Camping Trips, all the time, Truck is totally reliable.
You cannot force the customer to purchase these vehicles. If the dealers want these vehicles gone, they must come back down to reality. Hence, "greed" must be taken out of the equation.
Nuff said.
💯facts
They need to reduce it by the price of a new engine and the price of a new transmission because that's what you going to need if you buy one of these vehicles Ford Chevy Dodge GMC 5 straight years of garbage with highly inflated prices
America is suffering because too many people live in fantasy
@@bearrichmond3698 Not a bad idea. Are you a Texan ?
@@Polemic-2525 East Coast
Agreed. I'm on my third Ford in the last 12 years and the first two were amazing. I have a Bronco sport that I love but one of the electronic modules had to be replaced with within the first 30000 miles. I've seen other things posted similar on every trim level. I'm concerned that Ford quality is diminishing. I hope they get it together because I love their vehicles.
Found that out 34 years ago. Proud to say I haven't repeated the mistake.
Automakers and dealers made their bed during covid…and they can lay in it.
Yes they did! Not Ford though!
I have a 7.5L 460 big block Ford from 1994 sitting at about 105k miles. The thing still runs great, very reliable and runs no matter what. Only problem is the manifold bolts like to keep coming loose, so will be installing some headers soon. No issues otherwise, even started right up in -20 degrees one morning in a Wisconsin snow storm. Go back to building them like that.
1994 at 105k? Barely used.
You need to drive that thing more
We had a 7.3 crew cab 93 just turned 550,000 miles we sold it to a friend and believe me we kick ourselves everyday
Ford 460 is one of my favorites
My 2001 Ford King Ranch is my farm truck. I've pulled huge loads of lumber and dirt, hauled tons of tree debri to the dump, and pulled tree stumps out many, many times. I've even pulled my tractor out after I got it stuck in the mud to the axles. I love my Ford truck. I'm loyal to Ford but, if they're building junk, I'll go with a toyota or something else.
My brother owned a 2019 F150 XLT he bought new and had a list of issues with it. The final nail in the coffin was the 10 speed transmission failing at 25k miles. He had taken a Ford tech on a test drive to show them the problem and the shift linkage on the truck actually came apart, leaving him and the ford tech stranded. Luckily he was near the dealership and the service manager sent all the techs out to push his truck back to the lot. He traded it in shortly after.
what a picture. a ton of technicians pushing a ford back to the dealership? lol.
My 2018 Mustang Ecoboost convertible with the 10 Speed had to have the trans replaced at 45k miles. I’ve had $10k in repairs in the 1.5 years I’ve owned it (covered by Carmax Maxcare thank god.) I’m going to get a Toyota RAV4 prime and get rid of this clunker.
The chevy 1500s are not much better if any. Brother inlaws trans went out on his 2019 at 38k and somthing eles too i cant remember radiator or water pump. My 2000 5.3 is getting cheaper now that the rear main leaks no oil change just add some here and there.😂
@@subaruamazon FORD= Fix...Or....Replace.....Daily! Of the 50 or so vehicles I have owned in my 63yrs of driving, MOST have been Fords. I too USED to LOVE Ford products, but not anymore. Ford's quality really seemed to go downhill after 2010. I may not EVER return to Ford!
@@AndyInTech bought an 01 mustang gt conv. been pretty good. auto. 101k miles. 4.6 good. tranny pretty good.
As a loyal ford owner for most of my adult life I can 100% agree with you and your frustrations. I currently own 3 newer ford models . A 2020 F-450 , A 2022 FORD EXPEDITION PLATINUM, AND a 2021 Mustang Mach1 . Our truck and our expedition has been repeatedly in the shop for electrical issues . My wife uses the F-450 for hauling her gooseneck horse trailer . It had an electrical issue where she would be driving down the road and it would literally just die ! Talk about scary! It went to the dealer 3 times for this . The expedition has had multiple camera issues and has been at the dealer a total of a month to repair . Both these vehicles currently have around 10,000 miles on them . Sad when you spend all this money to purchase your dream cars and all you end up doing is driving to and from the dealer for recall after recall and issue after issue . And on a side note . I am a retired 40 year Automotive technician. The issue on our F-450 where it was cutting off I ended up diagnosing and telling them what was wrong . They were convinced it was the powertrain control module . But thanks to a few close friends that are still in the game and honestly a few great RUclips channels it was properly diagnosed as a bad fuse block ! After all these issues I can honestly tell you that we will never own another FORD product .
Brandon, what you said is correct about consumer confidence in Ford. The dealerships are complicit in the downfall and lack of confidence in the Ford product. They are notorious for not wanting to perform warranty work and will mislead the customer until the issue is out of warranty and thus the owner must now come out of pocket to repair. Certainly the “market adjustments” are simply a greedy grab for money. Where’s the clear markdowns now for “market adjustments” in a downturned economy. These dealers are one way, not your friend, and predatory!
Can confirm. I have a handful of issues with my 2021 raptor and it’s like trying to figure out nuclear launch codes to get dealers to fix them. Some problems are even documented issues. I’m on my 5th visit for shock clunk and 6th for a trouble code. I’m about ready to get rid of it
TRX?
i cant believe you even still have it.
@@junkyarddawgs9956 10mpg premium only is rough. Even my raptor on 37s gets 16-17 on regular.
@@SLHJR0390 it’s in the shop today again. This is my last attempt before I push buyback
3 visits for the same issue makes it a lemon. Call an attorney.
Ford had better realize that the best selling truck brand got there because of durability and reliability.
My '95 F150 is rock solid dependable and the air still blows cold.
Nothing major has been needed, just routine maintenance.
She's got 168000 on the clock and still runs great. When vehicles fall apart despite diligent routine maintenance it's not only a disappointment.
Because of the ridiculously high prices, it can be devastating to a working family and their financial well being.
Thanks for your post.
As a life long Ford guy, it is very disappointing to know that my old pickup will probably outlive most of the $65,000.00 "wonders" sitting on that lot...
I bought a 1979 Ford F150 new in 1979. $7800 (I was 17). The first week having it, a front spring broke. Then we found out that the rear rocker arms werent getting oiled due to lack of oil pressure. I have never owned a Ford since. Over the last 35 years, I have owned, a Nissan Stanza, Maxima and Infiniti M35 . I bought a Toyota Tundra in 2017 and it runs like a champ. I learned as a project manager that Toyota implemented the Total Quality Management system from Deming. Speaks volumes
lol my Toyota engine blew, my Nissan trans went out at 35,000 miles. My Ford truck still going strong (300,000)
@@chipcook6646 That Ford truck would be going straight to the scrap yard if it had the Triton 5.4L 3-valve motor. TOTAL GARBAGE!!
@@TheOzthewiz all major manufacturers make bad engines. Mine is a German built 4.0 very well built motor. Just does not give the mileage. Government has been putting pressure on them to make these motors. Why three cylinder? Because China tax 4 bangers. Lot of politics involve.
@@TheOzthewiz But what you want. Dodge and Jeep are worse maybe the Yugo.
I stopped buying American cars a looong time ago due to quality control. Toyota has been my mainstay since. Im praying our car industry does better! Im rooting for them.
Can’t go wrong with Toyota
Or Honda
I’ve done the same. I used to own Ford products. Mercury Cougar, Ford Taurus and my last one was a 2010 Ford Escape that my daughter still drives. Once I heard of all the ecobomb engines having problems I never looked back. Bought my first Mazda CX9 and it has been outstanding. Not a single issue. Ford better get their act together before Americans decide to walk away for good.
Yup, same problem would happen at Toyota and Honda if the UAW got into them.
I hope Toyota comes out with a 3/4 ton.
I just drove a Ford everest in Costa Rica and can't believe it's not sold in North America. It was awesome. Felt solid. Proper 4x4. Had a bi turbo v6 but I was impressed. And ARB has alot of after market support for it
I can't believe these prices and people are on 6/7 year loan terms that's absolutely insane. 15 years ago it was 3/4 years
Like 40 year mortgage or $1000 a month for a bedroom.
My father had Dodge trucks with a stick shift. They had 400,000 on a 318 cu engine. Still running great.
The sad thing is there isnt any vehicle today that is a quality product there all junk. I have been working for Toyota for 27 years now and our vehicle today wouldnt ever been shipped in the pass todays product is trash because everythng is made with crap parts from third party vendors who where the cheapes bid unlike years ago where we made everything in house of had a teir one supplier. its all about profits today not about quality.
Great video as always, that's why I own a Toyota Tundra with 280,000 and no issues.
How old is the Tundra, because Fords of the same vintage will run just as long. It's the newer stuff that is junk. My 2003 GMC has 250k miles and runs like top. I wouldn't touch a new one.
I have a 2019 F250 that’s had about 6 recalls mostly for minor issues! The last recall was for the steering damper which I believe was a safety issue that took years for ford to address. If Toyota built a heavy duty truck I would not own a ford, gm, or ram truck.
Nearly Every vehicles has recalls
Have you actually had any ISSUES tho?
My dealership here in Orange County California(Ford Tuttle Click Irvine) still has $5000. to $10,000. mark ups.
I can sadly relate . My 2018 Ford escape is a candidate for engine coolant intrusion issues ( costing $10,000 to repair ) around the 60,000 + mile mark . Not a confidence building feeling :(
That’s terrifying. I owned a 2018 Ford Escape, I traded it in after it went in for warranty repairs five times in one year. Reading your story makes me think I dodged a serious bullet.
Same, my 2018 escape blew the engine at 91,000 miles for the coolant issue
Luckily, my brother can turn a wrench and he was able to switch out my engine to a brand new one I purchased directly from Ford . I can imagine you’re probably the same as me and this will be my last Ford I ever get
New engine is eating oil and it’s not really helping the fact either. I got to get on Ford’s case on that.
Escape and small SUVs and cars are crap by Ford Lincoln
My 2017 Ford Edge is having same issue .. its a known Ford problem and they doing nothing to help us .. They asking $8000.00 for new engine and i just paid off the vehicle… its a shame i love Ford , its my 7th Ford vehicle but no more
Told my x to get the escape with the naturally aspirated 4 cylinder to avoid issues with the complex ecoboosts.
Was a Ford loyalist for over 30 years. I was in the market for an Explorer ST after replacing an engine in my 86k mile Echo Boost. Two dealerships had market adjustments and the one that didn't had 3 ST's they couldn't sell me because they were waiting for recall parts to arrive. Business went to another manufacturer.
Was your engine covered under warranty?
@@tylerjoseph7378 no it wasn’t. I didn’t have two of the receipts for the maintenance done in the 5 years I owned it. So they hung their hat on that and said not under warranty. I was fine with it as I was in the market for a new car anyway and was gonna stick with Ford.
I had a 2020 explorer ST. Traded in after 1.5 years. Super hard shifts like transmission was going to blow. Yes its under warranty but I don't want to be stuck months without a loaner (some dealers dont give) waiting for parts and repairs.
@@Vash610 yeah after my ecoboost let go I was still willing to get another one. Glad it didn’t work out because I’m happy with the new purchase.
Ford's quality went downhill fast after they sold off their stake with Mazda. Without Japanese support or advise, you have no reliability or quality control.
The last couple minutes of this video is more profound than all the rest combined. Thx for sharing
Thanks Brandon. Over 2000 comments so far. This episode really generated a lot of interest and many horror stories. I had 86 and 94 Rangers, both good trucks. I had 2004, 2013 and 2018 F-150s, all FX4s and V8s. Never had a major problem but none were high mileage vehicles. Traded the 18 for a 23 Titan Pro 4X with the old school V8. The F-150s are way too expensive now. After hearing the horror stories about almost all brands, I'm going to out go out and pray over the Titan. Before I downsized from a 5th wheel to a travel trailer I had several Ram 2500s but I kept trading every couple of years or so before they had the dreaded emissions problems. Now all diesels have DEF and supposedly emissions systems are less of a problem. But there's no real need for a HD diesel unless you're towing heavy.
My 2017 F150 XLT FX4 with a Boss plow has been great. Just turned over 100K. Just replaced the first part other than brakes and tires, a right front wheel bearing. I have not heard good thing about the new ones though.
69 years old. MY BIGGEST problem has always been crooked dealers that don't want to honor warranties. Now, Ford and other manufacturers can apply a lot of pressure to bad dealers, but they DON'T because they think they can always get new customers.
Love your commentary. Thank you for the honest information and for sharing your passion and specialty.
I had a 2017 F150...what you said about yours is exactly what mine did. It was my first Ford, and it will be my last: I traded that sucker and didn't look back.
What engine on that 2017?
NOT to minimize, the 2017 - 2020 3.5 had cam phaser issues at around 120K and up... all other years 3.5 lasts forever without issues, and ALL 2.7's and 5.0's last forever as well...
I’ll never buy a GMC again. We’ve had $13,000+ of repairs in known problems for our stupid truck. First the fuel system had to be replaced because they put in crappy pumps and then a def sensor had to be replaced. Luckily, the last one was a recall that but was unknown by all dealerships we called. Finally, one looked further into it and fixed it for us.
Add Ford to the list I’ll never buy from. Honestly, if it wasn’t for our RV, I’d love to never have a truck again.
Excellent video, thank you for keeping it real. I was thinking about a F-150 but maybe NOT now.
Most of the sales declines are because of price less so about the quality. However, quality is a problem and is a problem for multiple manufacturers. There are no entry-level prices for actual consumers. The dealers/manufacturers are trying to sell to a limited rich clientele.
Yes people look over the quality a bit… it’s the interest rates… a60k truck at 0.9-2.9% they are only charging you 1200-3500 in interest over the whole loan, now that same amount at 8%+ they care charging you 12-15,000 .. the payments 3-400 more a month… people can’t afford this no more… food had tripled in 4 short years, that comes first once all the household bills are paid- there’s nothing left for a 1200 truck payment
@@toddprater14Honestly, I'll probably never know what it's like to own a new car. Just when I felt like I could see the light at the end of the tunnel and things were finally taking a turn in my favor, all my years of working the same job was finally paying off, this happens. I'm now watching every bit of progress I made slowly slip away, week after week. I've done everything I can to stop it, there's nothing. It's a dream, and that's all it ever will be.
@@jimdandy8119 true , that’s why you live below your means , your not missing anything special about a new car/ truck yeah it has 6 miles on it, but they are crap now.. go find a loaded up older vehicle with low mileage and it will be a 1/4 the cost of a new one
@@toddprater14 Way ahead of you. I have 3, all paid for and running, and I know how to work on them myself.
It's really just me seeing something I know everyone in my family going back to my great grandparents got to experience that I never will. I'm not real tore up about it or anything, just find it a bit sad that's all.
@@jimdandy8119it will definitely be getting better soon! Don’t give up yet.
A friend at work bought a raptor. He was pretty happy with it. A few months after the warranty ran out, so did the engine. He was not happy.
What's the cost of replacing one of those engines?
I think it cost him $9k. This was 4 years ago.
I got rid of my 2019 Raptor just before 36000 miles. Was flawless during that time. However, I did not want to keep it past the bumper to bumper warranty. Traded for a 2921 F150xlt and got money back. That one had a baring whine right from the start. After 6 months I sold it after lack of use. Smoothest riding truck by far but I don’t trust new vehicles anymore. Now I drive older cars that I can easily fix myself and cost nothing to insure.
I've always been a die hard Ford guy but I'm not a fan of the ecoboost engines. Nothing but issues with mine. Coworkers have issues with theirs too. Our 6.7 diesel work truck has had nothing but problems. I bought a Ram and have had no issues.
The 3.5L EcoBoost timing chain and cam phaser issues were the last straw with me when it comes to Ford.
me too. I had a 2013 mine hit at 77k. they wanted almost 8k to fix everything.
Pfft. Got both beat. 17 SC 3.5 lariat lost engine at 65k.
Ford replaced the cam phaser 3 times for free on wife’s 2013 Ford escape starting at less than one month from purchase. So we got a lemon too. Under the hood was 90% plastic.
I had an 08 Expedition that had cam phaser issues at 110k. So ok, I bought a 17 expedition. Phaser rattle at 75k. Both trucks were meticulously maintained. Needless to say, both are gone and my new truck is not a domestic brand. I will never buy another Ford.
@tcluke1971 That's really what really gets me, two different engine families (5.4L Triton 3V assuming for the '08 and 3.5L EB for the '17) that have the exact same problem!
The best way to get back at them for the markups is to save the amount they would've charged when you looked last and use that for non-dealer repairs on your existing vehicle. Make that your "extended warranty" and wait until after you've spent that on repairs before considering even a used vehicle again.
Exactly my strategy. I do most of my own repairs so I will be getting back at them for a long long time! BTW, I drive Chevys
I just traded my 2018 F-450 King Ranch custom build from ford for a 2024 Tundra. I had 27, 717 actual miles due to the following issues. Like you, it was my dream truck. Most of these issues were after the warranty expired and the list is not in order of failure or issue.
* Transmission failure and replaced at 727 miles/3 weeks old, yes 727 miles
*Power steering pump whining
*Starter bolts sheared
*Starter replaced due to failure of hardware
*Windshield washer reservoir failure
*Right rear door handle switch failure (always showed as open on dash)
*Steering wheel control module failure
*Windshield washer motor failure (3 years after resev)
*Steering wheel clock spring failure
*Dash tailgate open switch intermittently (2 ford dealers could not fix this)
*Rubber chunks coming off front tires (@ 14,000 miles)
*One of the 2 batteries failure within 10 months
*Heavy rust from front crossmember frame (chunks) front motormount frame
*Smell of burnt clutch after normal driving (within the last year
*Charge air hose rupture
*Rear main seal leak
*Hood struts failed (replaced)
*Blind spot detection system failure(this past Christmas Day, this is when I decided I've had enough)
*Cross traffic warning system failure (Christmas Day)
* Roof trim at the back window coming off
Remember, this was a custom (built to show status) 2018 F-450 King Ranch with 27,717 miles
The UAW is more interested in their big benefits grab than building a quality vehicle. I to am finished with Ford and any other "American made" vehicle for ever.
I’m having a similar experience with Jeep. This one is probably my last. Dad drove Jeep. Grand paw drove Jeep. Just too many trips back to the dealership. Even under warranty, it’s just a hassle getting a rental, and not driving the car I paid for.
I've got a 2018 F150 Lariat (Took delivery October 2017) with the 3.5 EB and I love it. So far, so good.
Was thinking of replacing 2011 F150 ecoboost xlt 4x4 but the newer ones are way too complicated and computerized so I will drive it until a major breakdown and perhaps just repair it. Replaced the battery and throttle body once and that is all! Just maintenance. Great truck.
You should replace it with the Toyota Tundra with the 5.7L I-Force V8 in it.
I was a Ford guy. My 2019 Escape got totaled with hail damage. It had 54000 miles. I got out of it before the Ecoboost engine started to fail after 60000 miles like I've been reading about. I am now the owner of a 2023 Toyota Tacoma. Oh yea those Ford commercials were they say they're all in on America BS.
Agree 100% and very well done my friend. I will never buy a ford pos again.
My wife and I bought a brand new F150 XLT FX4 V8 on Christmas Eve 2018. The MSRP was around $41,000 with markups to $44,000. Told the dealership I wasn’t going to pay the markup fees. They took them off and we got the truck for a little under $38,000. Recently looked at a similar model and they were asking almost $68,000 for it!!! Unbelievable!!!
My next door neighbors son. Just brought a FORD lighting. EV . It’s a beautiful looking truck. He was towing his boat last week… and his back axle came OFF !! True story!!! I couldn’t believe it
@@harveyhankerson8359do electric trucks even have axles? Thought the motors are connected to the wheels.
@@shortyorc121 it’s call an UTTER axle. I think. Something ford made up. !! But yes they do..
Been this way with Ford and GM for decades. I worked as a mechanic, so I saw it firsthand. I switched to Toyota years ago.
Perfect example: I had 2 cars, a ford fusion and a toyota Rav4. Fusion has a plastic valve cover, rav4 metal valve cover. Plastic is cheaper, metal is more expensive. Guess which one I had recurring problems with oil leaks from the valve cover gasket? Plastic valve covers will warp from the heat. Ford will screw their customers to increase their bottom line by a few bucks.
And Farley is now hiring a new quality team? What happened to the old quality team? Why only now is quality becoming a priority? I think this speaks volumes about the priorities and motivations of management at Ford.
I thoroughly appreciate all the effort and information you put into your videos
I bought a 2020 Ranger and it has had numerous issues, mostly minor but still frustrating when you have to drop your vehicle off three or four days before they can even look at it. I work out of my truck and can't just drop it off for a week every time I have an issue. First issue was a driveline squeal that they could never duplicate which eventually stopped, the second was the front camera went down preventing lane keep assist, front crash warning and no cruise control. That took months to fix due to not being able to get an appointment for them to look at it. The third was a transmission issue that threw codes that could never be retrieved so they couldn't do anything for me, and lastly it now has a fuel sending unit issue giving a check engine light every time I fill the truck up. Like I mentioned I just can't drop my truck off for a week for them to look at it. I know that Kias get a lot of hate but my family has owned eleven Kias with absolutely zero issues during time of ownership which is typically three-four years. Ford was at the top of the food chain 5-10 years ago but they can't stay there with their current QC. Lastly let's not forget about how great their SYNC system works, total garbage.
I like the looks of the Ford F-150, a good friend bought a 2022 Ford F-150 and has had monumental problems with the drivetrain, and body integrity. His insurance is higher because of the aluminum body, which he found out the hard way when having a repair after somebody rear-ended the truck and then took off.
I purchased my first Ford vehicle (F150) before the prices skyrocketed. I absolutely LOVE this truck. For some reason, after several years of being very happy with the repair department, it totally "Went South" ! The repair quality & price for crappy repair was high. When they made very inconvenient mistakes that cost me to have to tow back to the dealer (1 hour after being serviced). They fixed their mistake and promised to pay for the towing cost, NEVER DID! So I changed dealer repair franchise, wasn't happy, planned a third dealership in my area but saw ratings and comments from furious customers. Since Ford has such PATHETIC repair personnel and management, I will NEVER risk purchasing another Ford product again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like your "confession" at the 11th minute mark. I bought a 2012 Ford Fiesta DCT for y daughter. Needless to say how pissed off I was with numerous issues. ECU, Water pump, AC condenser and at that point the car had only done 25K mies. NO ore Ford and I WANT THEM TO GO BANKRUPT BADLY!
I was a Ford guy for the longest time. But reliability is my main thing. So the first new truck I ever bought new, was a ToyotaTacoma, over 130,000 no issues at all, other then new pads and rotors. Rear brakes.
I still have my 2013 FORD F150. I brought it. Brand new. It now has 4 hundred thousand miles on it… with no issues. !!!
You're the exception. Not the norm
@@vegasstang1 Maybe, but people who do their own maintenance tend to have vehicles last longer. I easily get that amount of mileage out of any of the various vehicles I've owned.
Bought my 99 4wd Tacoma new and I will never buy an American truck, period. These are real trucks.
@@joemoore4027the Toyota Tacoma is basically an American truck since they’re ALL made in America. Toyota obviously makes these trucks for America since Japan doesn’t have the space for it
My daughters dream vehicle was a 2021 Ford Bronco, and she makes great money and generally good decisions. She called me one Saturday to go look at a new 2021 Bronco and away we went. My first impression when I got in it was "looks cheaply made", but she was excited and away we went on the test drive. When we got back to the dealership I told her she maybe ought to think it over for a few weeks and how I felt it felt a bit underwhelming to me. But she's an adult and was ready to put her money down. So dear ole dad went into negotiation mode and got her a pretty good deal on it.
She had it just over 2 months when the engine light came on and it wouldn't idle at stop lights without feathering it. She took it in and they had to order a part that took 2 weeks to get??? Meanwhile they left her with no loaner, so I let her borrow my 1996 F250. 2 weeks later the bronco is ready to be picked up. 3 weeks later she said it was making a really loud noise only when cold and backing up. I thought it was the brakes, so back it went. Took them about 3 hours to tell us "that's normal". I had some words with the service manager, but nothing was done about it. Days later as I am pursuing a better answer from Ford on the issue her GPS stopped working correctly. Back to the shop it went and she had to wait nearly 3 weeks for the new infotainment center to arrive. When they installed it they left a screw or 2 out and it rattled, so back again to fix that... I got no where on the cold backing squeaking sounds it made...
A month and half later she was was driving back from a day at the beach and called me crying on the side of the road. She said she was driving along, and the engine temp light popped on along with the engine light and before she could pull over the engine just quit running... We had it towed to the dealership since Fords roadside service could not get someone to tow it that evening. The next morning I got to take a look at it and the lower coolant hose was off and had no signs of a clamp or ever having a clamp on it, engine was seized. The Bronco had 4,100 miles on it at this point. I blew up and demanded they give her the money she put down and had paid plus the value of her trade and take the car and shove it up their arse. They wanted to look at it and came to the same conclusion I did, no hose clamp was ever installed on the bottom hose. They wanted to replace the engine but would take 3 months minimum with no loaner. I had to call a lawyer friend of mine, but she ultimately got all the money paid plus trade in value for her old car and bought a very nice new 2023 Kia Sportage X-line and has not a single problem, complaint or regret a year later.
Yeah, don't buy a new Ford. They have 0 quality and 0 concern about it anymore. The fact Kia gives 100k warrantee and makes a car 10x better and much cheaper than a mid - premium Ford is shocking to me to this day, but it is absolutely the truth. That doesn't mean I'll be getting rid of 1996 F250 5.8L, 280k mile truck, it's been a great trouble free truck and still looks good, but clearly Ford's quality policies are not what they were in 1996.
Yeah, clearly didn't work out the bugs on the Bronco ... to be fair, Kia's / Hyundai (same company) had/have thousands of engines where the head bolts come loose / strip out ...thus partially or completely destroying engine, along with thousands of their cars catching on FIRE for multiple causes... but at least they made good and replaced engines and not made excuses. Really lame a coolant hose clamp was forgotten on vehicle... probably a rare fluke on that.
Traded my wife 20 Escape we bought brand new. It left her stranded multiple times and I actually thought with the amount of time the money light was on the bulb would go out. Plus last summer it was in the dealer for recall issues 7 weeks. Last straw was yes the new program for the last re all probably caused the cats to go bad. I actually felt bad for the service advisor, she was fantastic, but I know she HATED calling me with the news on it.
I'll stick to my '66 Ford Galaxie 500 and '77 Lincoln Mark V.
Cheap parts, relatively easy to find, easy to repair and maintain, and I don't have much for electrical to be a worry.
I sold my Raptor and went with a Tacoma also i got Tacoma at MSRP
HEY! Hello Brandon and thumbs UP!
Hey Richard!
I'd comment more, but it's pretty much exactly what you said. Been a ford owner since 1977, most recent is a 2017 that is great.. Not because of loyalty, but because they produced what I wanted and generally didn't fail me. Unlikely that my next purchase will be a ford.
I was in the market for used full sized truck 2 years ago. I test drove about 2 dozen trucks and it quickly became evident that the Ford's had issues, especially the 6 cylinder twin turbos. In my experience, the Toyota's were all overpriced, the GM's were so-so in that they didn't quite have the nicest interiors. I ended up getting lucky with finding a '17 RAM Lariat that the dealership didn't realize was a lariat. Heated/cooled seats, nav, tow package, and air ride suspension. The truck has been a beast since then. I even used the air suspension to lift a 35' x 3 culvert pipe out of the ground. It tows all of our trailers no problem and has been nice even on long 8+ hour drives. Best thing is I'm never going to be upside down on its value. My friend who bought a used '17 F150 at the same time has had multiple issues with it. On the other hand, we also have a '22 Maverick XLT and it has been fine. Two recalls for a seatbelt and a radio update. 35K miles on it already and so far, no major issues.
One of the reasons for Ford’s demise will surely be its sub-par and expensive service. For the same issue in my car, the dealership gave me a quote of $1300, whereas a certified family own service shop asked for $600.
As an exploited Ford owner, I would be ecstatic to see Ford suffer.
This is all dealerships. Thats why they are called stealerships
Richboy do you really think that you are saying something new? Son you must be young or very inexperienced!!! 😂😂😂
1st hand knowledge here. Ford just gave me a turn in date (dec 2) for my 2023 Ranger buy back "repurchase" Problems: 800 miles-oil leak, oil filter not properly installed at factory. 4k miles- brake pedal goes to floor. 6k miles- differential blew up dealer had it for 5 weeks rebuilding it. 6k miles steering gear failing needs rebuilt/replaced. Also transmission has slammed into gear 2x (not taken back to dealer as buy back was in the works).
8k miles- entertainment system has failed, screen black, truck can't communicate with app. App can't find truck.
Really sad, had a 2020 Ranger 100k miles no issues unit the crappy 10 speed trans blew up. I should have kept it.
I’m leery of most post pandemic vehicles. Who knows what shortcuts in production quality they took just to get cars on lots.
Good point.
In addition to the temporary workers that don’t give a shit.
My work van is a Mercedes sprinter van and it's at 57,000 miles and I have thrown 3 serpentine belts and constant coolant issues it was built in 2020
@@glyniscoleman4813Dang, sorry to hear that!
@@glyniscoleman4813Sprinters have been throwing belts for over a decade.
Once you go Toyota you can never go back . Former long time ford owner
Toyotas are overpriced but at least they last forever. I've never owned one but I've always had reliable Japanese cars, and in 30 years of driving I've never had any major mechanical issues. When I do have issues, they are usually pretty affordable to fix.
Overpriced but save you thousands in say 5 years!!!
I don't like Ford. Feels cheap. But I finally went in to buy a 2 door bronco black diamond edition. They wanted 15k over sticker and won't even let me test drive it. Thank you Westfield Ford in countryside Illinois.
The price gouging issue has to be regional. I’d been looking for a new truck for almost two years before I finally bought a new F150 XLT loaded in September. Paid 16% under MSRP. During that entire period of time I never came across gouging with Ford at any dealer. Toyota on the other hand was worse. Basically 5k to 10k market adjustments everywhere I looked in New England.
Just bought a 24 Tundra with zero dealer markup. Truck was on the lot for one day.
@@jtg4002 I'm looking at mazda
So in the end you only over paid on your Ford 26%. Good job. You'll know why when you start having to deal with the truck being in the shop for weeks on end while they can't figure out your $5000 tail light short due to water. Good luck there buddy. I have a feeling you are going to need it. They look nice but they are LOADED with bad design issues.
In what area did you buy your truck? Might have to take a road trip.
I still have my 2007 FORD F150. With 3 hundred thousand miles on it.. with no issues !!! Go figure.
Call me an ‘old timer’, but buying a vintage ride that’s simple & easy to repair seems like the best way to go..
Great content and I appreciate your honesty. I also currently own a Ford F150, and I have to agree with you that quality is an issue. Drive train issues, speed sensor issues, and throttle body issues, just to name a few. As a long-time consumer of Ford trucks, I am yearning for a serious turnaround with the Ford brand. Like others, I am beyond fed up with the costly repairs and warning signs on the dashboard.
All these dealers are making overengineered junk with the insurance companies and govt ramping it up. Tech bulletins and recalls galore.
Quality has always been an issue with Ford and a few other brands.
They only care about short term profits and not building a good, long term, vehicle.
I don't mind Ford. The thing that gets me is a brand new maverick is about $25k but if you want to go buy a used one.......expect to pay $35k. It's everywhere. Who the heck is paying that when you can order a new one for way less.
To lose trust from costomers it’s hard to regain trust again especially car business
So true..
Until 3 months ago I had to deal with them daily. The poor quality is just unbelievable.
Aside of the quality issues (though my 2009 5.4L Lariat that I bought used has been excellent), the astronomical prices of the current trucks and cars have priced me out of the market altogether. I'm near retiring, and apparently I'm going to be riding the bus in retirement!
Hear me out. I wonder if this is by design to (largely form government interference) to disincentivize vehicle ownership altogether. We all hope there will be a market correction and there may be one, however, what if the prices stay where they are. No one can afford these insane prices that have meager financial means. US government in league with the UN want to push 15 min cities, meaning public transport. They (government) ultimately don't want commoners to own vehicles or really anything for that matter. Just a thought.
We have a friend who bought a new Ford and after one month, it went to the shop and was literally there for months from engine issues… It’s crazy. The number you said of how much they’re spending on recalls/warranties, woah.😳 Fun fact, our dealership spot actually was a Ford Dealership for over 30 years before getting shut down! We have a lot of loyal Ford people in our town but we see that changing with the quality issues that’s for sure.
I'm hearing that about RAM and Chevy too lately. Another channel I follow had several Chevy techs talking about new trucks throwing rods pulling them off the truck to prep for sale. Ram's Ecodiesel were blowing engines because they haphazardly threw a Euro spec Italian diesel in it that was never designed for our emissions systems. Their fixes included changing the oil spec and detuning it so it felt like an 80s garbage truck taking off from the stop light. They are having cam and lifter issues on both of them (and some Fords too). I suspect they may be buying parts from the same lowest bidder for all 3 brands.
My 14' Jeep GC with the 3.0 diesel engine seized up at 64K miles, just 4k miles after the dealer replaced the EGR cooler that was recalled and melted my intake manifold, a valve cover, injector tubes and damaged my turbo hoses. They also had to replace the front main seal for the 2nd time since new, a brake booster, windshield squirters fell apart, windshield cowl dried out and disintegrated, leather dash board delaminated 2x all in the first 5 years. My extended warranty has paid over $18K and counting, still have 11 months left. My new engine has 21K on it and runs fine, but seems to be using a lot of oil and I've had to add coolant to it 2x, despite not finding any leaks. Dealer says no leaks, HG issues or codes. It's a great ride and gets great mileage (less so after EPA retune) but I'm losing any trust in it to go on long trips, which is what we bought it for.
I don't think the big 3 are going to survive much longer. They are hemorrhaging money and their vehicles are getting too expensive, too unreliable and too hard to service. Their only chance is to automate more and pass along some savings, improve quality and offer 10/100 warranties like Kia/Hyundai. If they did that now they'd go broke in no time, but if they spend a little more on good parts and show confidence in their products with a warranty then they might be able to compete. Don't see it happening.
@@mikelemoine4267 That’s crazy. I totally agree!
@@mikelemoine4267 That’s crazy. I totally agree!
I've heard the new Bronco has a lot of issues. To bad they didn't over-design this to bring back the trust in the brand. I was a loyal Dodge fan for years but never again, after 8 years they just fall apart. They make it easy to assemble but it makes it very hard to repair.
HAD RAMS FOR 30 years 3 of them No major problems,while my Fords CHEVY,AND TOYOTA FRIENDS JUNK WAS FALLING APPART!
@@Happy11807 That is surprising as they all have inherent issues, and Ram has always had issues with transmissions, weak differentials compared to Ford & Chevy, and the dashboards literally disintegrate in the 90s-early 2000s. The new ones are really nice with great ride and performance, but they are still having issues. Ford & Chevy in the 80s also had very crappy transmissions, but both brands were extremely very reliable in the 90s and early 2000s.
Most of the issues now are due to over engineering and planned obsolescence. They put electronics on everything, when often a simple linkage cable would suffice. They use too much plastic on the drivetrain (intake manifolds, oil pans, etc.) and run the engines hotter for emissions reasons and all that plastic breaks down too fast. They have variable cam/valve timing and MDS that seems to starve the top end for oil. This happens more now on Ram and Chevy, but was a huge issue for the 3V Triton from 2004-2010. It's still an issue for Ford too, but not as much at the moment (7.3 is showing some signs of lifer/cam issues though). They all make them really hard to service. Some of them need the cab pulled just to make what used to be routine repairs.
Toyota has historically been very reliable, largely because they stuck with old, proven technology rather than always being at the forefront of designing new gadgets. They didn't have the best fuel economy or win many races, but they would boringly lug along forever. They are just now starting to go with small boosted engines after letting everyone else do the trial and error research and come in after the bugs are worked out. They save a lot on R&D and also don't have the UAW or pension load of the domestics, so they have more resources to put toward quality. That said, they have had some issues on some years and made a few hard to service turds (v8 with timing belt, remove the whole intake system to get to the starter, etc.) and they've had some differential issues on some years of Tacoma. They do stand behind their products better though, and will extend warranties or courtesy repairs much more than the domestics. They value their reputation and play the long game.
GM actually argued in court that they should not have to pay to replace all their faulty transmissions on a model because the warranty terms are for mfg defects not design flaws. They said the faulty transmissions were designed that way and built to spec, so they weren't defective. I'm sure Ford pulled the same crap with their DCTs. Toyota on the other hand replaced frames on well out of warranty vehicles when they had rust issues. It's a corporate culture issue.
@@Happy11807 BS. Ram trucks are trash.
NO BS MY EXPERIENCE,THESE TRUCKS ARE GREAT!
@@Happy11807 You’re in one of the smallest minorities, dude. And your friends with bad Toyotas are in the smallest minority.
Rams are a little worse than Chevrolets and much worse than Fords. Count your blessings, as your Ram is doomed.
Great content!! These prices on these vehicles are ridiculous for them to not be reliable!!
I'm starting to hear and see new and used vehicle prices coming down. Not enough, but it's starting. Finally!
Agreed. I bought a pre-covid Ranger, and have had zero issues at 51k miles. Added Ford Performance tune, level, and Roush exhaust. Love the truck, but wouldn’t buy a Ford now. Not looking to sell in this market.
Brings the old acronym back To mind Found On Road Dead.
Fix On Rotating Days.☹️
I've had 2 Fords in my lifetime. A 2000 Ranger that I leased in 2000. No issues for 5 years. Great truck. 2nd one was a 2008 Crown Vic that I bought from The California Highway Patrol in 2011. 140k miles. I paid $2300 at auction. Ran like a tank for 55k miles and 9 years. Gaskets finally wore out and I had to replace them. Ended up trading it in. It served me well.
15 years ago..
IMO that speaks more for regular maintenance than anything else. you took care of that lease and the chp services their vehicles routinely (i assume.) in the end it comes down to cheap parts at mass scale. most cars will put up with a little abuse but when they're made as cheaply as physically possible you get a pickup truck with a reputation like this.
Yep Ford always stops making reliable cars. For cars that are terrible. Sorry trucks, The don’t make cars anymore because they can’t sell them for $100k