Buyer beware? 2021-2024 Ford F-150 Known Problems
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- If you are shopping for a new F-150, this is the video you need to watch. Publisher Tim Esterdahl goes over the 2021-2024 Ford F-150 known problems.
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how about the super duties
@@bradypayne7623 good question. I did a video a few years ago on HD trucks. Maybe its time to update it.
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I think its avoid everything at this point, auto makers have raised prices without the comenserate increase in quality.
Almost as if they standardized things and decreased in quality while raising prices, with people throwing money at them the customer satisfaction and appreciation has dropped as well.
Yea it's crazy! I have been looking for a new truck and I just can't pick one out. They all seem to be having more than normal issues. May just find me an older Tundra and call it until this crap gets better.
Yep! All these reasons are the exact reasons I threw in the towel and decided to keep what I got.
Not true ram still makes an excellent truck with excellent quality and a bulletproof engine and transmission. Ram is about to take over as the king of the truck industry
I have walked away from trucks. I have had Tacomas, Frontier, and Ranger. I just sold my paid for Ranger and got an Outback. Just paid the difference. I make a good living. No debt. And it is simply financial suicide to buy a new truck. It isn't just the cost. It is gas, tires, and all of it. I just can't justify it anymore. First time I haven't had a truck in at least 15 years.
Thanks Tim, a good, fair discussion, I appreciate you. I scratch my head as well. I have one personal '22 F150 Powerboost Lariat and two leased '23 F150 Powerboost XLT trucks for my business. On top of that I have 10 leased F150s ranging in years from '21 to '23 for both the quarry and our engineering consulting firm. The only issues with any of these trucks was one dead starter battery from one of the Powerboosts from what I am told is lack of use and some of the truck door locks froze during certain weather; this was solved by the dealership for all the trucks and no problem since. We keep a battery tender on one of the Powerboosts cause it's use is intermittent. Yes, I've had my share of recalls but all of them were looked after during routine maintenance and a courtesy car was offered. None of the recalls resulted in me having to rush anything to the dealership for immediate work and some of the recalls include..... inspecting and re-wrapping a line insulating cover to the brake on the rear axle, replacing a wiper motor, replacing a module for the parking lamp flicker, re-flashing/programming a couple of the transmissions and a few others I honestly can't remember.
Owning as many trucks as I do and for as long as I have and not having horror stories or inconvenience I'm led to believe that some of what I see on RUclips is exaggeration and fodder for talking heads (no criticism). I've involved myself more this time in the cross shopping for our leased truck replacement and it's been very interesting. Typically, we cycle through Chev and Ford trucks. I've been looking at some Tundras. I'm sure they're good trucks but honestly, I can't get by the design and fit and finish. The rear bumper is a mess of plastic parts, the step that Toyota offers to access the box of the truck might work for casual usage but try that out as a work truck (Not!), there's no front tow hooks, their hybrid has nothing comparable to the Ford Pro Power on Board, I don't think you can get the hybrid in a trim lower than the Limited and the fit and finish I've observed is bad, in fact it's the worst of any of the new trucks I've looked at. I took a couple pics of one of the Tundras on the lot to show what I found to a few friends. I expected a lot better from Toyota
Each to their own, we should all buy what we like and can afford. I'm not a Ford or Chev sales person, I could care less what anyone else buys but go and do your own homework folks. Drive them, inspect them, take a good close look at how the body panels and seams look, compare brands, talk to the guy in the Costco or Home Depot lot and ask him what their experience has been like. Too many people are getting drunk on KoolAid at dealerships and fanboy websites. Disconnect your utility trailer with your atv in it and use/abuse your truck daily while making a living, then come back and share your experience. Welcome to the new world of trucks, "My team vs Your team"....... wow.
Correct👍👍👍❤
Got 21 PB Limited, got it used with 23K miles. Records show a battery put in a few months before I picked it up. Other than that it has had absolutely zero issues for me, tranny or motor issues. I do disable the sensors when turning off with a pop-up option as it sits for 5 to 7 days sometimes between use and for sure powering up electronics when it’s sitting will result in a parasitic drain. That said, I will trickle charge it every few weeks overnight to bring the battery charge back to 100% resting capacity, but it was never for any low battery/voltage situation. I am just being proactive as I have a Lexus with a lot of electronics which also has a bit of parasitic drain when it sits for weeks between running and active electronics, I’m sure that is the cause. Otherwise, the truck has been perfect and the service records prior to my ownership just show Ford Dealer maitenance, where perhaps flashing or required updating was done during scheduled maintenance, but it’s been dead-on great for me!
@@jameszeiger8533 Enjoy! The F150, and particularly the Powerboost, is a fantastic truck. Keep on top of the oil changes….. full synthetic 5W30 and changed every 3000-5000 miles (max) or 6 months (max) with a new oil filter each time.
@@cwqrpportable That is the plan. I am running Penz Ultimate Platinum 5w-30 and will move to 0w-30 this next go around as I live in a cold weather winter climate (Colorado) and low temp oil flow is important. Having run a previous truck with a factory roots blower for over 130k miles, turbos, like blowers are hard on oil, causing a rapid sooting of the oil from high cylinder pressurization and blow by on the rings, thus dirtying the oil quicker. I can run about 4k, no more than 5 tops before the oil looks sooted. I am OCD about oil quality under severe boost pressures and good filtration.
@@jameszeiger8533 Sounds like you know what you’re doing! 👍. We run Amsoil Signature Series 5W30 year round.
Own a 22 F150 XLT 4x4 crew cab. Best truck I have ever owned in my 77 years!
Did u get your emergency brake recall letter ?
A friend battled local Ford dealer on the repeatedly failing electrical system on his new F-150 hybrid. Clear lemon car issue so Ford finally said they’d replace it. Replacement details still being ‘negotiated’. He and his lawyer were way too nice with Ford!
Truck makers need to slow down with refreshing every 2 or 3 yrs.... Take the time and get the QDR back where it should be ...it's a Quality not quantity situation. .. at some point people will be sick of these garbage vehicles and would like something to last like vehicles used to 40/50 yrs ago
Some of the vehicles built in the ‘70s were garbage. I bought a ‘77 Buick Skyhawk with a V6 231 HP 4-speed manual and it was a giant piece of doggy doo.
Only Ford consistently does the refresh thing every three years. Technically there's really no difference between a 2009 Ram and a 2018 Ram with the only real change being in 2019 and even the new 2025 looks the same as the 2019 except for the grille. Even the current GM trucks are the same junk underneath as they were in 2014 with the same 5.3 and 6.2 engines and even the same interior until last year. I like Ford (and RAM) but ford is the absolute worst.
At this point putting Mr. Magoo in charge of quality would be an improvement!
Don’t bring Biden into this!
I don’t know how Farley is still the CEO! Fire him already
I’ve had 5 F-150’s. 2018-2022 and all with 10 speed transmissions. Haven’t had one issue with either of them. But recalls are up on just about every single vehicle. Just another day in the automotive industry.
Good job at delivering the facts and stating which years and models and not setting off alarms.
My 22 reg cab is 2 yrs/24k mi and my last oil change dealer said "battery health getting low". Since warranty is 36k I said "how bad does it have to be to get replaced under warranty" and they immediately gave me the "not yet" speech! The battery issues are real. Another annoyance on f150s is that they start rusting in the first month you own it. Most $60k+ f150 owners will all agree its annoying when you spend so much.
My '20 battery was deemed "defective" after 2.5yrs. It wouldnt charge and created all sorts of electrical issues. Ford replaced it last Jan while under warranty and it's been fine since. 🤞 Good luck
The sheared bolt. Been there. I had a rattle coming from the rear and just thought it was my exhaust. I drove for over 5000 miles and even pulled my camper with that bolt sheared.
Dealership replaced both rear axles without question. However, the recall is still active as even the replacement they are finding are sharing off.
They don’t have the final replacement parts yet
Luckily, mfgs provide a whopping three year or 36k mile warranty. ....
Lol!!
Watched from Old Harbour Jamaica, first time on your channel. the Ford F150 are making much precents on our roads in jamaica far more so than the other brands. I have been hearing about the problems with them for years but my dad just bought a 2020 4x4 Ecoboost and so far he is happy with it especially with it's power and fuel consumption. My dad who is an old school auto mechanic will be 85 this April and most of his life stayed away from hightech monsters but these days we have no other choice. No matter how many brands of vehicles he owned over the years he always own a Ford of which he own a 1974 F250 which he build from scratched in 1979 but installed a 4 cylinder British Ford D series diesel engine and run it for over 30 years before he sold it and t is still running. It was slow, not smooth but a real workhorse and very economical.
Jamaica? Nice. Wish I was there right now and not in cold Nebraska.
I’ve owned my 2011 f150 3.5 ecoboost for 7 years now, it has 162k miles, 129k when I bought it. No turbo issues. I maintain it well doing my own oil changes every 3k and recently flushed coolant from the older orange to the newer Ford yellow coolant. It hasn’t been without problems but no turbo issues.
A guy in my church has a 2023 F-150 that he has had one year and just a few weeks ago was showing me all of the rust underneath the truck. The entire rear end is covered in bright orange rust. We live in Texas too!
OMG, as a metallurgist for 40 yrs, this is the first time I've heard that metal rusts!
Yes ford doesn't coat diffentials, axles, etc. Im told they will in 2024 because so many people complained.
@@cwqrpportable Your sarcasm doesn't explain why no other vehicle has rust but his F-150. That's the point I am making. I own four cars that myself, my wife and kids drive, and not one of them has a spec of rust on them. I don't see any rusty trucks ever...but F-150's you see the rust all the time on those rear ends especially. On those that are jacked up its on full display.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Relax. Ford got lazy and didn’t coat their rear diffs properly. Either that or it’s a grand scheme to drive OCD folks crazy…. It has no influence on operation and poses no real concerns.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Interesting, okay I'll accept the challenge. Let's break this down into bite size pieces. You wrote: ....."doesn't explain why no other vehicle has rust but his F-150". Not sure if you wrote that before you had a chance to think about what you were saying, but that's a bit silly isn't it? No other vehicle has rust, only the F-150?? Come on man.... You wrote: "You own four cars and not one of them has a spec of rust on them". Okay, that's great, my cars don't either. My F150s don't either except for the rear diffs and parts of the axle if you get down and look at it. You wrote: "You don't see any rusty trucks ever..... but F-150s you see rust all the time on those rear ends especially". Once again, a slight exaggeration of the facts. Other truck rear diffs rust too, maybe not to the extent that F150s do right off the lot lately but others do rust. Furthermore, F150s in the last 10 years do not display rust on their frames, leaf springs, etc anymore than any other truck. Even further, due to the amount of aluminum in their construction, rust is all but eliminated in the box and body panels. Ford has done a fantastic job on their frames, underbelly and body but have failed in the rear diff area. I understand that for 2024 there is more emphasis on providing a better coating to retard surface rust. And that's what it is....... surface rust, nothing more, nothing less. I think Toyota does the best job of coating their solid rear axle to slow down surface rust; now if they could only deal with their fit and finish up above where it can easily be seen..... Currently, I own and lease 13 F150s, one for personal/business use and 12 for my two businesses. Until Tim took a selfie of himself and made a video a while back about surface rust on F150 rear diffs, I never gave it a second thought. Why would I? Why would anyone? It's a non issue; the metal in that rear end and axle will outlive you and your children. Don't believe me, visit your local scrap yard.
My 2023 has been flawless. Regardless of known problems, I would take it over anything anything else out there
I've checked around other trucks, lots, and I totally agree with you.
The sheared bolt recall is for more than powerboost trucks. I have a 22 5.0 and got a letter a few weeks ago for this recall.
Such disappointing news. I ordered my powerboost in October and I still don't have a vin. Might be time to pull my order and buy a gmc Sierra
Good update! It all rang true for me. The only issue I’ve had with my 2023 tremor (common issue I see on forums) was the right rear window rolling down automatically and would not power back up. My ford dealer replaced the master window switch the next day and fixed it promptly. My brother in law has had both the 2.7 and 3.5 turbos and traded his trucks at about 170k miles. No issues on the ford turbos for me either. Love the TORQUE.
Ya I’m surrounded by F150’s without any issues! I’m not sure where all the complaints are coming from
My 2021 powerboost had 2 minor recalls, and has been a great truck. 85,000 km on it so far and has been my favorite f150 and I have owned 7 over the years.
2022 f150 powerboost transmission replace at 24k miles and loads of other issues. Nice truck this is my first ford, but I am questioning the reliability. Hope it works out
175k on mine. Never left me stranded or had any major issues love it and looking to buy another
I bought a 2021 F150 Lariat 3.5
Experienced a Wiper Motor Recall.
That was it and I’ve got 112,000
I’m not seeing a lot of problems, but others seem to think so..
Tim here’s the TSB-23-2250 condensed CDF clutch drum on the 10 R 60 and the 10 R 80 from 2017 to 2024 has a bad designed bushing. It’s rebuild time F150 excursions explorer. Information provided by master check at Ford dealership. Service tech bulletin came out eight days ago.
The design of the Transmission is the same. But GM and Ford uses different suppliers and materials in areas like the clutches, valve bodies and Torque converters, as well as software. The GM ones have far less issues than the Ford ones.
I heard that as well. I hope Ford can get the transmissions on the SD fixed as well ASAP, otherwise RAM with their ZF 8 speed HD transmission and GM with their Allison 10 speed will crush them.
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 that's laughable
Appears the big three automakers need to take the best components each of them is known for and build a quality Truck. However, if the transmission co-developed by the GM/Ford partnership is any example, that may not have any more benefit.
I got a 2022 F150. An important thing is to keep that fluid fresh and change it every 25k-30k miles. I have done that with BG transmission fluid and it smooth out the shifts a lot but keep that fluid fresh to maximize the life of it and performance. Just my 2cents.
Also change oil every 3k in ecoboost engines. These are dirty engines and need to keep the oil clean at all times but to each their own.
Man if you have to change transmission fluid every 25k to keep it working something is messed up.
@@Link-we8soreminds me of the Honda Ridgeline 6 speed transmission
I agree, I change my oil at 3-4000 klm and I recently changed the transmission fluid. Pan had silver filings in it from the break in period.
Shifts much smoother now. I bought a Suction Tank and followed Utube directions, it wasn’t hard but took 2hrs.
We have a fleet of about 90 of these trucks. Haven't had a single transmission failure yet.
You must be getting all the good ones then, because mine is already showing bad signs at 6000kms... 😅
@@Missioneer had the first one at 85000 this past week
@@Missioneer maybe it's just you
@@steveschilling5966 You could be right, but the F150 forums say otherwise.
I have a 22 F150 power boost, had over a year, only issue i had was a bad Evaporator core, took 3 weeks to get part and install (covered under warranty). So far beyond that i have had no issues, couple software anomaly but software updates fixed those.
I bought new 2021 F150 XLT super crew in December 2021. Now has 40k miles. Been in shop for repairs 13 times. Hard shifting, evap system failures, charging system failure, reflash infotainment…..
I own a 2023 F150 purchased in July of last year. The way I fixed my low battery problems was to completely disable the zone lighting on the truck. It was constantly lighting up the truck every time I got within 10' of it and that was causing the battery voltage to drop low enough to get those messages on the Ford APP and sometimes cause the remote start not to work. I also had problems with a weird flapping sound coming from the drivers door which I fixed by adjusting the door latch and making it close a little tighter. The only problem I have now is vibration on the freeway that you can feel in the seat. I've replaced the tires and had a Roadforce balance done a couple days ago. Put some Bilstein shocks on the rear yesterday but haven't tested them out yet. I'm going back to RAM when the 2025s come out if this stuff doesn't work.
2023 power boost xlt. Took delivery in late august after a 14month wait. Had battery issues right from the start. First time I put a charger on it so when it went in the charge was too high for replacement. Second time battery was replaced and they had to boost it in order to drive it to the dealership. Third time it has been in the battery checks out fine, but the BMS was stating I only had 25% charge when in fact I had around 80%, so all my accessories were not working! All three visits are just over a month apart from each other. Dealership says they’ve reached out to ford Canada but no answer. Very frustrating
I had a 2017 3.5 with 10r80. Tuned the shift points on the transmission and never had a problem. I sold it and now have 23 3.5 and it’s been amazing. My work truck is a 21 with 2.7 I have 25k on it not a problem at all.
I watch YT for all the brands and they all have issues - I will prob still get an F-150 anyway.
2013-2018 was rock solid w/ 6 speed ,if ain't broke don't fix it
You missed the A/C evaporator freezing up. Very common problem. They had to tear my dash apart to replace it and I’ve had rattles since. Temp sensor is built into the evaporator instead of other brands where you just change the sensor.
Yep. I have had my share of techs working on my new vehicle only to discover new noises or forgetting fasteners etc. I know there are some good techs out there, but even they make mistakes (especially when rushed). I usually cringe when someone says, "You have a warranty, so if anything happens it can be fixed" on my new vehicle. I actually prefer they not touch it unless absolutely necessary.
My 2021 PowerBoost with 30K miles is in the shop getting a new transmission at the moment. Second time this truck has lived at the shop for many weeks since ownership.
Ford needs a new CEO..
Chris Farley would have done a better job running Ford.
They're focused on DEI, ESG and social justice. No time for building decent vehicles.
Ford needs to scrap the company and start over- I recently got the emergency brake recall- there words- might cause crash. Boing too.
I’ve had every single problem listed in this video except engine issues on my 21 Expedition.
This is an excellent video on the ongoing problems with Ford ownership.
Need to do one on the incredibly long list of problems, issues, stop sales, stop drive, . service bulletins on the ChevyGMC trucks.
Good luck keeping that video under 1 hour...lol
Here's Nissan Dave back again to bash the domestics! Never one to miss an opportunity are you Dave?
@@cwqrpportable hmmm? Ive owned one Nissan in my life and it rusted so bad and I was so embarrassed when my friends would stop by. Never again! I learn from my mistakes.
@@DaveInCanada081 hmmmmm is right Dave. Congratulations, you learn from your mistakes. Thanks for all your public service announcements regarding Chev and Ford. Hmmmmmm, wonder what that's all about?
@@cwqrpportable the dudes confirmation bias can't even be measured. Any stat he doesn't like is "not true" . Any stat he likes is "totally true".
This video is about the Ford F-150.
Many people towing with the 2.7L engine have had them shutdown completely without warning. After letting the engine cool they were able to restart the engine and continue.
Lower trim level trucks have the small H6 battery and with all the electrical drains taking place after the engine is shut off it would be wise to get an aftermarket H7 battery and a battery maintainer.
All brands have problems these days but my experience with a lot if trucks is Ford is the of the new model trucks. I drive a 2022 at work daily and own a 2021. Have had only couple minor problems on them.
How would you REALLY know about turbo issues when you don't keep your vehicles long enough, nor work them hard enough, during your 1 year of ownership...
Simple. I don't report just on my experiences. I do research into durability all the time.
One correction, the sheared axle bolt is not exclusive to the Powerboost. Any Max Tow package will have the 3/4 float rear axle which is the one that uses the retaining bolt that has had failure. Supposedly they have addressed the issue in 2023 and on.
Yes. Not exclusive to PB. I had this issue and have 3.5EB. And you will know when the bolt has sheared as it will rattle around inside the wheel making a ton of noise. I fixed myself after hearing stories of Ford keeping people’s truck for days and weeks (this was before the recall was published). Then after the recall, I had the truck in and the dealer ‘followed the recall guidance’ and inspected the bolt. For some reason, after that service, I have a loud squealing noise coming from inside the axel. The noise subsides upon acceleration and is loudest when coasting. ffs….🫤
If you look at the industry and individual manufacturers over the decades the industry has demonstrated relative highs in QC and definite lows in QC. The same is true at the manufacturer level, and even further at the model level.
There are so many variables that factor into the highs and lows that it’s likely impossible to pinpoint a single issue, but if you look at the impacts of government regulation on the industry and how each manufacturer approaches compliance with that regulation, you begin to see patterns.
I think we are at a point in this cycle where in a few years we will see many of the QC issues resolved. There is no substitute for maturity of engineering and design.
You can find several models across manufacturers that have had solid QC and that is a direct result of engineering maturity. (Toyota has historically taken this approach to the extreme.)
If you want maximum reliability out of these new models you will have to wait. If you can’t wait, find those mature model generations and buy used.
Halfway agree. I think the tech will never mature, because they’re pushing new ideas out the door before the product is ready. They will replace these bad ones with new bad ones made with the new latest features that haven’t been proven, then rinse and repeat.
7k miles on my 23 3.5 EB FX4 I’ll say it’s a great truck. Nothing is perfect but it is solid. Average mpg over 7k miles 19.4 currently getting 20.6 over the past 2k miles. I have one fender that is slightly misaligned where it meets to the door, which is a simple fixed, but a miss on Ford part. The carpet under the passenger glove box drips down on one side a little bit. Also a simple fix. The transmission is good but you do have to accommodate it with your throttle input or it could seem clunky. I put an oil can at 250 miles for the first 5000 miles, 2500 miles it was half full and it’s been steadily reducing as the engines breaking in and the MPG is steadily going up. I have no regrets I got 10 K and 2.9 for 72 months with the fuel efficiency and capability of the truck and the deal I feel like it’s a pretty fair price. Everything is just freaking expensive. Thanks a lot JB! VOTE for Trump!!!
People who use trucks for what they were initially designed for "WORK", want reliability and low maintenance. Most of the auto industry is producing vehicles that are pretty much the opposite. Regardless of whether you're a turbo fan boy that wants a turbo on every ICE or not. These vehicles should be designed so the everyday person can work on them if needed and without requiring expensive machines and proprietary tools which are usually only found at one of the dealers or other specialty repair shops.
No issues with my 23 3.5 Tremor yet at 10k. But hell it’s brand new their better not be
First 10k miles without issues on a Ford? Don't buy a lottery ticket. You've used up all of your luck for the next 10 years.
Got rid of my 21 Powerboost. Had issues and fire wouldn’t fix it. Still under warranty and three years old and 21k on the odometer. Traded for a 24 Tundra platinum. Glad I did.
I ended up buying a SCT tuner and there is an option on there to do a KAM reset. When you do the KAM reset the CPU forgets your driving habits and the transmission shifts like it should. The truck does re-learn your driving habits though so anytime I feel the transmission starting to not shift how I like I plug in the tuner and do a KAM reset.
I drive a 2021 XLT 3.5 non hybrid.
The 10R80 is total garbage.
It cooked at 46k miles.
Total rebuild (warranty)
I never tow or haul.
My 2008 tundra 6-speed was smoother
Other than the transmission...
I absolutely love it.
The engine is rock solid, and crazy quick for a truck.
The handling, steering, comfort, 10/10
Super quite cabin, dash configuration is simple and practical.
By far the best overall looking truck inside and out. Not over styled.
Exterior is clean, sharp, and to the point.
No funky and bulky bends, curves, and shapes like the new Tundra and GM's
Did have battery issue... Going into battery saver mode at 80k miles.
Small door adjustment
Those things are what they are and don't bother me.
It's a shame about the transmission,
Probably enough for me not to purchase same truck again if they can't figure it out.
The thing is so confused all the time...
Always in too high of a gear, small slips and slams, pretty much every time I drive.
You almost have to learn it's behavior and adapt the way you drive.
For a $60k truck, you'd think Ford could give you a respectable transmission.
Honest opinion and assessment from an owner.
I have two newer f150s, a 22 and 21. Both 3.5 ecoboosts. The 21 has never had a problem other than the wiper recall and some software updates. The 22 with the B&O stereo was a complete nightmare after it updated over the air in April. Multiple trips to dealer, they replace the APIM finally and still had issues with the stereo cutting out and a computer glitch sound shrieking over the speakers. Finally I found on a forum to switch the screen into night mode so the infotainment screen was always blue in the background and my issues went away. Only issues I’ve had so far and the 22 has nearly 50,000 km in the alberta oilpatch 😂
Hey man...great video....im looking at a 2019 f 150 4x4 with the older school 3.3 liter na engine and the 6 speed transmission...60,000 miles...do you think it will be a good,reliable truck?....its an xl with all the goodies you could get on one,regular cab,short bed.thanks.
My last truck was an F150 and I had quite a few issues with it over the +/- 55k miles I drove it. Nothing major but consistent. Bad paint on the roof, bad hubs, bad moonroof, door latches, oil leak, rust, etc. When it briefly became stuck in a low gear going onto the highway I knew it was time to sell it. I switched to a 2023 Tundra platinum and in the first full year I haven't had a single issue big or small. I will say the F150 did get a little better mileage in the city but the two are nearly identical on the highway.
When you sell the most you might have some with problems my 21 has not had any of these issues🤷♂️
All the manufactures have been have issues part of manufacturing
As an owner of 2022 xlt302a with 5.0 - I can confirm quality is not there... I've got transmission issues from first km. Dealer said, since its new it needs to break in and learn shifting patterns. Ok at 15k kms - reset the tables - didn't help, shifts like crap ( harsh upshift, feels like being rearended, harsh downshift - you can feel every downshift when slowing down). 15k kms - reset again - shifts like crap. 22k kms - dealer cant replicate the problem - shifts like crap. 30kkms - software update and reset - shifts like crap. 38k kms- transmission valve body replacement - shifts like crap. 41k kms - cdf drum replacement ( basically a transmission rebild at this point) - better, but still nosedives at every downshift... Overall I hate this truck just because of transmission - just can't enjoy driving this thing... Totally unacceptable for the price of the vehicle.
Tune it
Tim is in a tough position because he's simply telling us what the stats are. I just don't believe or trust anything the car companies say or promise.😢
But we are all supposed to believe your "expertise" right? You will find some website that supports your preconceived idea and that is "totally true".
And yet you believe all the internet chatter about a vehicle, that’s precious
@paulhunter9613 The only thing I believe is that Jesus is my saviour and all these cars and this world will pass away. Other than that, it's just a wait and see as to what breaks next on every single vehicle no matter who makes it.
My 96 f150 straight 6 , 06 explorer4.6, 09 mustang all great cars and put lots of miles on them. Won't touch a new Ford. Great video
Look at the "" stop safely now" light issues with Fords and especially the Powerboost. The truck won't start for awhile if it comes on. Thanks for what you do.
I have had 2 10R80 transmissions. A 2019 Ranger and now a 2021 F-150. They have both been nearly perfect. 29k on the Ranger when I traded and 38k on the 150. I did buy them both new and I drive my stuff pretty easy, especially during "break in". The interesting thing to me is the 10 spd is basically a Ford transmission that GM received in their joint venture. (In return Ford received the 9 speed transaxle that they turned into an 8 speed) I have read that the "GM version" 10spd is way less finicky and shifts smoother. Which is kind of embarrassing for Ford that GM can better program a transmission Ford designed and engineered. II wonder if this holds true on the 9 speed as well? Anyhow, thanks for the video. Ford's build quality is near the bottom. Ironically the workers were rewarded for doing shoddy work...... My next truck won't be UAW built until they prove they can improve build quality.
I’ve had Zero issues with my 2022 Tremor.
My 2018 was junk the transmission was terrible and engine knocked.
My 2018 was terrible too. Turned out to be a lemon. My F350 is solid
Your previous ford was garbage, so you bought another Ford?
Yep best choice I ever made. F350 is a real truck. Super duty isn’t much more and it is way better. Payload is way better and the diesel is a monster
I bought it to tow a camper but that fell through. I do use the payload on random things like a pallet of grass rocks and other stuff. Another thing I like is people don’t tail gate me and definitely don’t get close in general. It is the family truck we can really load it up and take everything that extra foot of bed makes a difference
Amazing how many serious issues you're talking about with a very calm tone. When you were reviewing the Tundra, every small problem you found you made sounds so terrible....🤔
Any idea why the 2024 5 liter is no longer a FFV (E85 compatible)? And will the new gasoline particulate filter (GPF) be another issue to be concerned with?
Probably a cost issue with changing out the fuel lines to be E85 compatible. For a while FFV was a big deal, now not so much.
Time will tell on the GPF.
Every car will have problems. it's just a fact. My father has been very happy with his 22 f150, nothing wrong with a little over 12k miles. However, I also am aware that there is quite a bit of rust on the differential. Appreciate the channel and website Tim, keep up the good work
Just curious, what is the total cost to replace the turbos, parts and labour in a 2.7L f150? Ive heard all kinds of different numbers. Just wondering if anyone really knows the real cost? I just got a 2024 and would like to know what i may be up against one day
Luckily my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it doesn't suffer from any of these issues.
I had mine for 373, 456 mile no problems
Seems like all the manufacturers are having problems with the newer trucks. Maybe we should buy trucks 15 or 20 years old and have a new engine and new transmission in it along with any thing else it may need new such as a paint job and drive it till wheels fall off.
Might be cheaper in long run just to redo the older trucks that are less complicated
Hey, you know what, you might be on to something now...... I still remember the day I went with my dad to the bowtie dealership to pick up our brand new 1970 Chevrolet C10. That was a great farm truck and as a young guy in high school, those bench seats were a bonus. Both that truck and the first truck my older brother and I bought as struggling business partners (me still in university) for our new business venture...... a 1979 Ford F250. That F250, imho, is the best pickup truck any manufacturer has ever made and would fit well with your idea. That F250 made us a lot of money.
Agreed 100% brother
I have a 2021 model year myself and have had to deal with recalls but I’ve just timed them with oil changes so not a big deal and I’ve had some electrical gremlins but only thing to really go wrong that’s taken the truck off the road was the sync 4 software crashing while trying to do a large over the air update and not enough juice in the 12V battery but that was affected by the lack of driving which pissed me off as you’d figure ford would know not everyone drives hundreds of miles/kms daily to keep up the charge in the 12V for all the fancy tech. Mechanically it’s been good though from the engine to the 4W drive system. I do like as well Tim how you brought up the data proving the reliability of turbo charged engines, ford has come along way with there design since the first generation of the eco boost line up.
The weak 12v battery is a bummer. We keep a battery tender on one of our Powerboosts that doesn't see much use.
If these EcoBoost engines are so good then why Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@CJColvin I wager the production cost are cheaper for a more simple engine and they would logically they’d make you pay for any fancy tech however those engines you mentioned are for the super duty line up F250, F350 etc which the video isn’t about technically. Just gonna point out too for the 2024 model year for the f150 the base engine is now 2.7 eco boost as they are dropping the base v6 non turbo engine so yay ford has come along way with the turbo engines technology compared to when it first came out.
@@switchbackfable True, however howcome the Mustang GT comes with the 5.0L Coyote V8 and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor 3.5L EcoBoost V6 and only uses the 2.3L EcoBoost 4 cylinder as the base?
@@CJColvin it would be weird if the mustang gt didn’t have the 5.0 in it lol. The 2.7 and 3.5 are torque oriented engines more suited for trucks vs the mustang gt which goes with the 5.0 like peanut butter and chocolate. The 2.3 eco boost is suited for more fuel economy focused mustang owners and ford prob sells more mustangs with the 5.0 in it so wouldn’t make sense business wise to offer a different base engine in the mustang gt.
I purchased a new 2023 F-150 Lariat 4x4 Sport last month. I have never been more disappointed in a new vehicle as I am with this F-150. I absolutely hate this truck! It’s a great looking truck, but it rides and drives horrible! This is the most uncomfortable vehicle I have ever owned. It also has the worst, most uncomfortable seats as well. I have a one hour commute to work every day, and I dread having to make that drive because of this truck. I previously owned a 2014 F-150 XLT 4x4 with the 5.0, and it drove and rode well. I don’t know what happened to Ford, but this is the last one I will ever buy. It’s getting traded next week.
I’m at my wits end with the lack of quality in these trucks…my 2020 f150 lariat begin having transmission issues at 20k miles and full replacement by 26k…dealer was terrible to deal with. Ended up in a 23 tundra that has open recalls that the dealer is dragging their feet on (fuel line), a broken seat motor, malfunctioning head unit…terrible for the prices. Is anything markedly better at this point?
You didn’t mention the windshield recall my truck leaking rain water in
2021 F150 5.0 Platinum. 50K+ miles, ZERO issues.
None of the problems are an lssue until they happen to you!
Seems like the whole industry is going backwards.
Hey @tim, I'm told that the 2024 F150s are being held for Quality reviews. Have you heard about this and do you know what it's about?
It is abnormal that they’re not at dealerships yet.
@@Appalachained i know. Something doesn't seem right. I dont know if its a good thing, 1) halting to do deliver the highest quality or 2) they are aware of big problems that need to be corrected.
I dont know for sure but these trucks were probably built during or just after the strike.
Same thing happened to me in 2021. They will release them soon. It isn't that out of the ordinary to hold them.
Thanks for the reply.
Gotta get the 2023 off the lots first. Still plenty out there. Discounted and 1.9 financing available and they still sit.
I recently sold my 2022 PowerBoost XLT I had for just shy of 2 years. It was an OK truck overall but the hybrid transmission was pretty clunky going from electric to hybrid drive. That, and a lot of error messages with the transfer case when shifting into 4 High. It would correct itself after restarting but it always had me wondering if it was going to fail.
What was really mind blowing from a quality standpoint was a failed state safety inspection because a disconnected wiring harness from the factory caused the license plate light to not illuminate. It made me wonder how I got my first inspection sticker…
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Seriously considering a Toyota Tundra (Been buying F150's since 1998) after HORRIBLE customer service from Ford and the local dealer in Greer SC. They have had my 2022 Ford F150 Platinum V-8 there several times, had to be towed after what sounded like a loud explosion inside the truck from the sound system and then loud static noise making it unsafe to drive (total more than a month ) and everytime they touch it, I end up getting it back with more problems requiring another visit with check engine light on, Fuel gauge that only registers 7/8 after a fill up. (this happened after the last visit they replaced the fuel pump and R&R the tank for defective fuel pump) On board power not available after they did an update for flickering light recall. They don't provide loaners and a rental truck costs $95 of which Ford only pays $60. Tons of Recalls, HASSLE trying to schedule service for wiper motor recall, they can't even promise they will have the part when you bring your truck in with an appointment. The truck only has 8,000 miles on it. REALLY?? FORD SUCKS!. I have a 2024 on order since 11/2/2023 and Ford apparently isn't releasing them even though it has been produced due to "Quality" issues. An article in Ford Authority recently published "Regardless, Ford CEO Jim Farley recently stated that the automaker is using the Toyota Tundra as a quality benchmark for the 2024 F-150, so it’s certainly possible that the automaker won’t begin deliveries until it rectifies any potential issues it has discovered early in the production process." I would expect better from FORD after paying $70,000 for a Ford truck! The new one is over $80,000. Ford better wise up or expect to lose market share! Toyota can't be worse if Jim Farley mentions they are holding up delivering 2024 F150's to meet Toyota Quality . Time for Jim Farley to be replaced since he is failing MISERABLY! Sick and tired of all the recall notices on my 2015 F150 Lariat, XLT and 2021 Ford F150 Limited with Powerboost. Think twice before buying an F150!
Why would you order another one?
Well of course your turbos last for you, you trade every year. How about 10 or 15 years, like most people use trucks?
Obviously this information isn't based on my usage.
Family’s members 2018 F150 3.5 eco boost had his water pump go, and it cost him $4,000 at a dealership to replace. He said the cost also contained gaskets & valves. I asked for the invoice but I thinks he’s too embarrassed to share. I bought a 5.3 Silverado in 2018 (a month before he bought the F150) and have had a starter and thermostat replaced. I know it’s only a matter of time before I lose a lifter or torque converter but I wasn’t impressed with the f150 repair cost.
The water pump in your friends case is inside the engine. A total Ford idiot of an idea. It’s a major job to replace that internal water pump. And Ford engineers should be fired for developing such a stupid idea….
He won’t show you the invoice for the water pump replacement for $4000 because he is lying about the cost to replace it. At most it only costs $800
I have a 23 Powerboost that I've owned to two months- it's been sitting a Ford Sevice Bay for the last month due to software issues. Ford can't figure it out.
Nothing new here. Why people haven't learned from the past is beyond me?🤔
Ford 10 speed have a solenoid get jammed in the transmission valve body. That gm doesn't have
10 speed transmission on 2018-2020 not great either....I got rid of a 2018 with 5.0 Coyote 10 speed shifted terrible and 2 quarts of oil to 3000 miles wasn't good either
I have a ten spd in my 2018 that has been a fantastic transmission, shifts smooth. And the oil consumption was a problem only with the 5.0, no other engines
@paulhunter9613 it's not if your 10 speed goes out it's when they are crap
Known issue: they are overpriced
That diff breaking guy saw reports about that with leveled trucks. Also XL&XLT trucks are not AWD.
Love my 21-V8. 27k Oil changes, recalls at same time. Only warranty repair caused by sunroof drain separation.
There's an increase in recalls because there is an increase in complexity. There are many more electrical modules on a vehicle network. Each connection is another potential failure point.
You are correct. Many vehicles now have the equivalent of a LAN connecting sensors and multiple computers (ECU, TCU, etc.). The amount of wiring alone has tripled in the past decade and unfortunately, government regulations strike again. Much of that wiring has a soy based insulation that does not last as long as the PVC based insulation. It does not hold up to the operating environments very well, especially hot climates. And, to make matters worse, rodents like mice are attracted to the soy based insulation which creates more opportunities for electrical gremlins.
After 2020 the quality has gone down hill!
Because reliability is at the top of my requirements I'm looking at an F-150, but I'm only looking for one equipped with the base 3.3 V-6. It's not the most powerful engine, but it gets rave reviews for reliability.
I WAS considering a newer one with the 10-speed, but now if I go with the Ford, I'll get the old 6-speed which was available with the 3.3 up to the 2020 model.
Reliability and ford don’t belong in the same sentence. Reliability is at the top of your requirements and you are looking at a ford 🤣🤣
@@tylermichaud8699 Options are limited concerning full-size pickups. I suppose I should have qualified my remark by stating that IF I was to buy a Ford, I'd look at the 3.3. I'd normally default to a Toyota, but new Taco/Tundra reliability is questionable and a previous gen Tundra is insanely costly. One has to start wondering if a 100K Tundra vs. almost new F-150 3.3, is really a wise choice. Not to mention that 5.7 just inhales dino-juice.
I've had nothing but problems with my F150 2022 Hybrid. Horror story of events, 9x now to dealership, in touch with corporate Ford and all sorts of interdepartmental contacts. Avoid this car if you can, Bluecruise and the tech package is a ABSOLUTE NO.
Every truck and car out there has problems
It’s almost like there’s no good US option. GM isn’t any great shakes either and ram is too busy cutting options and raising prices.
Great video. Maybe time to invest in better microphone? You sound “tinny”
This is what happens when manufacturers install wayyy to many electronics on vehicles. They need to return to making basic trucks & most important of all, make cheaper more affordable trucks. Any manufacturers that start making more affordable vehicles will sell more bcz they will avoid the expensive & problem vehicles
They need to go back to the 6 speed. That is the best trans
It takes years to fix things like the transmission??? This is his way of saying I work for the auto industry and not for the common schmo that we’ll get ripped off
Tim! You keep your turbocharged trucks for a few weeks, maybe 6 months, and then you dump them. You should buy one truck and drive it everyday for 10 years. Then you can tell us about the glorious turbocharger and the overworked undersized motors and how they've overcome physics.
I have 120k on my 2016 2.7 eco boost F150. Seems like a good little engine. Pulled my dual axle enclosed trailer 200 miles without issue. Crap mileage, but no issues.
@@kb9oak749 thanks for sharing. Im will to say Im wrong if I am.
Well if Tim bought a truck every 10 years he would go out of business. 😮
They’re designed from the ground up for turbos. Not simply adding turbos. Maintenance is the key.
@@kb9oak749 I don't know what I'm missing here in this equation but like you, most of our Ecoboosts see hard time. If I'm going to start worrying about turbos in our Cats, are we supposed to go back to steam trucks and shovels? What is this fixation people on RUclips have with turbos?
My 2018 Tundra 5.7 and my son's 2016 f150 5.0 have been trouble free. I think it's too risky to buy a new truck now.
Agreed 100% brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
Ford had a better idea....
This why i bought a Maverick hybrid the first f150 i placed my body in was such a turn off. Who needs a truck that constantly shifts,up down ,and is the size of a whale! I drove many new ElCamino SS that were built to.perfection and made me tons of dough. Never a problem ,
There’s no way the 5.0 has had more issues. There are other RUclipsrs working in dealerships as master techs who back up the coyote having less issues. That being said there are more Ecoboost sold so you will hear of more issues. 18 and 19’were iffy years for some 5.0’s but overall still less issues than Ecoboost. Gen 2 Eco 3.5s are almost guaranteed to have cam phaser failure.