It's a strange world we live in where comedians and celebrities like Russel Howard and Russel Brand often do better interviews than journalists and newscasters.
I think because to be a comic you have to be very sensitive to societal ground movements whilst although a journalist may be, they are there either with a personal or corporate agenda or with a brief to challenge the interviewee in the interests of impartiality. They aren't there to just listen. Russel just listens without judgement and the result is an honest interview.
It does have something to do with them being comedians and unafraid to say what they think, people with an open mind are usually more socialy intelligent and understand what the little things mean and can challenge them
"In a king's court, the jester is the only one who can tell the truth" How astute and accurate this is when comedians are giving better interviews than main stream journalism.
here he is portraying himself defending the incredibly racist bell curve, alongside known white nationalist Stefan Molyneux: ruclips.net/video/iF8F7tjmy_U/видео.html
@@MercedesMan I still don't understand how he's gotten that image/reputation, but I thought he was very alt-right grin the media as well. Watch/listen to one of his lectures (they're all over RUclips and a podcast) and tell me it's not logical and inspiring.
@@christyguy59 No idea who that guy is, but Peterson disagreed with him when he says there is a difference in men and women's IQ. The rest of the video is just talking about genetic components/limits to IQ, and that unfortunately, unlike exercise increases the bodies physical abilities, none of the "brain training" programs have successfully increased one's IQ.
Props to Russel Howard for having the balls to interview Jordan Peterson fairly, not only that but conduct one of the most profesional interviews I've seen in years, the media could learn a thing or two about open and polite discussion.
On the contrary, it was an opportunity missed, It needed a lot more in depth questions and needed to be much longer. I like both people but this was a let down, non event.
@@thenewnationpodcast Brand is fantastic at what he does but I can find his mannerisms ruin the interviews for me sometimes. Although I did really enjoy his first book on recovery.
Considering Russell has been more left with his comedy since he started Hour, I'm absolutely surprised to see him turning back to a more 'I don't give an f-' attitude like he had with Good News, especially interviewing Jordan Peterson. Very happy to see this!
@@FirlowXD The trouble I find with most of the Jordan Peterson interviews is that the interviewers immediately attack him with questions based on their own biases. I like interesting questions followed by interesting answers so I can make up my own mind and form my own opinions.
12 days sober thanks to this great man. Haven't stopped drinking in 15 years. And I'm not looking back. Doing it for my 7mo old daughter as my jolt, but continuing for ME. I just want to give him a hug or something.
This is exactly how journalism should be conducted: empathetic, caring, understanding, objective (non-biased), probing but at the same time respecting the guest's boundaries. Good job, Russell. You've earnt my respect
@@ryanharris6850 The old one from way back? He did not say that, go watch the vice interview again "if you don't believe me." From what I remember, my interpretation was that he just went defensive when he after a few minutes realized the interviewer was up to no good, and took on the role of a provocateur. (Ironically, he was provoked into provoking!) He was just asking questions and pointing out problems that exist, sometimes hinting towards/suggesting some provoking alternative solutions, but his intent was clearly to provoke/shock by saying things that were outside of the perceived scope of what you could say: challenging the boundaries, basically. Towards the end of the interview, I remember him saying something to the effect of, "We can't talk about these things in our culture." It pretty much summarizes what he was trying to get at in the interview. I'm sure he today would have chosen to go about things differently in that interview, but I give him some slack for that one.
This was one of the most genuine and well-conducted interviews I have ever watched. The value of actually listening to someone else should never be sidelined.
It's been a *_LOOOONNNNG_* time since an interview this good happened on any major network. Podcasts and channels like this do interviews this good _every single day_ and they are making mainstream outlets look like amateurs. Also, it's just great to see Peterson out on the circuit again doing talks, on-site interviews, etc. I think this tour will be even more important than the one he did a few years ago. It's like a victory lap.
The Main stream media are amateurs. I mean look, the word professionalism's root is profess for a reason and the main stream media has long ago started to profess wokeness and other bullshit ideology. They don't profess to bring something worth their customers time to their customers attention. They say they do but that's not the same as professing.. like a falsely accused person would profess their innocence. So yeah, they're amateurs in every since of the word.
I'm grateful for Russell asking him questions about "mundane" things of life like playlists etc, and it seems JP was too, as he appreciates these things more than ever.
Well done Russell. THIS is how you conduct an interview. Absolutely no agenda towards Jordan whatsoever. Was a pleasure to watch, thank you too both of you for just being yourselves.
Thoroughly agree. Not sycophantic not adversarial just a proper conversation with both parties chipping in with shared experiences to back the narrative. Really good!
Not gonna lie, that got me & I shed a tear. Fantastic interview, no politics, no "gotcha" attempts, no offence harvesting, just a good, rational & interesting interview.
All his interviews are just how you described. It's the bad interviewers who make it about politics and offence, and Jordan usually deals with those people appropriately.
@@kaivogel253 "your liar prophet"? He's neither mine nor a liar nor a prophet. He is not full of anger and hate - instead, he uses logic, pragmatism and his intellect to explain his position on certain subjects. I really don't know what it is that you're trying to say.
In all honesty, that's always been Russell's interview strategy. He asks what the person is comfortable with talking about. Peterson has dabbled enough in politics, what with spreading falsehoods, toxic and unprofessional behavior. The man isn't even seen as a prominent figure within psychology nor is he a respected one. The only reason why he is here is because he is famous and a controversial figure comparable to Ben Shapiro.
When he said "if you can sit down and breath...... there's lots of people that don't have that", I just burst into tears. I'm a 52 yr old man, single for 18 years because of mental health issues after suffering some major sexual, verbal, mental and physical abuse as a child and young teen; but still now after all that and all the struggle that came after and the ongoing issues that are smaller but more manageable - even with that in mind, I'm still healthier than many my age, a small little business of my own, have a roof over my head and some money in the bank (though lockdown used up a lot of it), not a lot by most peoples standards my age, but enough to fund for my daily needs, and some friends to call my own. I have everything I need and more than most, especially with the Ukrainian war going on. I should be thankful more often, not to god, because he cannot exist and my life have been as it was - but just "thankful" in general. Edit: I'm so very grateful for all the replies and messages, and even more for those that have expressed a feeling of hope, however small, from my words - truth is I have often wondered at "my purpose" in life, as we all often do, with no children, spouse or significant other and few friends whom do not have any form of personal reliance on my continued survival, it would not be too much of an exaggeration to say that were I to die in my sleep tonight, there would be little words or feelings of loss at my passing - but each day I continue to wake up, and occasionally get a message from someone like Chico's Mommy, and I guess that might be my purpose, to show "a life", even one as small and limited as mine, is still possible.
Congratulations on being able to conquer back your life after a really bad start, and appreciating the things that are good in your life. I don't know if the words of a random stranger on the internet mean anything to you, but I was moved by what you wrote, and wish you nothing but happiness and success going forward. Stay strong, battle these mental health demons, and send them back to hell. Sending my thoughts to you.
@@HauptgefreiterB That's so very kind of you and a words of kindness from a stranger are so much more meaningful than from those around us daily, because it takes an act of purpose to take the time to make them known; a purpose not required, but done anyway out of genuine feeling. It's these occasions when Humans show the best of themselves XX. (eh? Somehow I've become a philospher too? I'll take it.) As for the Demons I keep them in a box, sometimes they get out but I've become quite good at corralling them up again - surprisingly earworms turn out to be a very good defensive mechanism to take up the "empty" space the Demons like to inhabit (the place the "bad voices" we all have like to live) when I'm not actively concentrating on something, although LOL, I do get some doozy's on occasion - a few weeks back I had "Duke of Earl" (By Gene Chandler) for a whole day, (and sung by Fran, the annoying, nasally afflicted hooker in the film "man with two brains") as my internal jukebox seems to contain every bit of music I've ever heard, including all the crap / weird stuff. Google "the birdie song" yeah that afflicts me on occasion too, haha.
Thank you, Russell. I will admit that I was one of those people that had heard about him second-hand and made conclusions. This interview is an important reminder that you don't have to agree with everything someone says, but that doesn't mean they're the worst person on the planet. Thank you for bridging the divide and hosting this interview.
This man is so enlightened! Because he’s orating in our current pc culture many bash him but he is so honest about reality and how many twist things for their own benefit while ignoring blatant hypocrisy! This man is brilliant, not everyone’s cup of tea but I think everyone should listen to his opinion.
@@thearmchairjournalist566 here he is defending the incredibly racist bell curve with known white naitonalist stefan molyneux ruclips.net/video/iF8F7tjmy_U/видео.html
@@christyguy59 given Molyneux's opinions on race and IQ Peterson was quite measured. no one who works in this field denigrates the veracity of the data, only what conclusions we draw. given the data going back 100 years it's a difficult subject to navigate even for the most articulate professional in this field like peterson.
This is proper journalism, asking relevant questions but from a neutral and open standpoint. It represents the interviewee in the most genuine possible way and allows you to form your own opinions from there rather than from a view already tainted by someone else’s agenda.
@Kenneth Hymes Peterson’s work is the opposite of destructive. It consolidates all that evolutionary biology, psychology and ethics tells us is needed for a healthy, productive society. And it starts with the individual. It’s clear from your comment that you’re one of those people that Jordan talks about in his opening remarks here. You’re not angry at Jordan, but at what he’s been shown, erroneously, to represent by people who are dead set against sovereignty of the individual, personal responsibility, freedom of expression, and those tools which make a productive society. Don’t be that person; it makes you seem dull and ignorant. I used to think that way until I realised I’d been hating this man whose work I’d never read and whose words I’d never given any time or thought towards. I only disliked him because others said I should, and that’s no way for anyone to formulate an opinion, nevermind something as strong as hatred for another human being.
@Kenneth Hymes So please share more than subjective evaluations. Point us directly to the material that shows a "record of dishonesty...intellectual fraud" and "harm to vulnerable communities". Or, does just asking this constitute proof that I'm wrong'un?
@Kenneth Hymes I definitely don’t agree with Jordan on all his views, but fundamentally he’s a good, intelligent man with strong morals. He isn’t “hateful” and “regressive” and he certainly isn’t an ignoramus. Even more so because he actually doesn’t say anything that outrageous, you’re wrong, he absolutely does deserve respect, just like every other human being does. And attention? As I said, he is an intelligent man with very important perspectives on certain issues, plus he has written multiple books which I know have helped thousands of people. Furthermore, he has clearly experienced severe mental health hardship, and the fact that he survived such an extreme case of this means he has valuable advice to give to others going through the same thing. So I’d argue yes, he does deserve attention. I genuinely don’t know what you mean by “launder their destructive histories” so I won’t comment on that. Just let yourself be a little more open-minded with things like this. I too used to dislike Jordan Peterson, and I still wouldn’t say I’d call myself a fan of his, but I have developed respect for him now and understand how important so much of his advice is to young men and women.
Yes. And also the respectful way Russel listens ... then asks questions to further understand; never aiming to catch his interviewee out but to further build trust. He's a gifted (and very well prepared) interviewer - which clearly creates connection with Jordan (as you said).
@@JenBroadley great comments Jennifer. it clearly helps that russell clearly got a lot from his books. so talking and interviewing from "inside" jp's work.
I dont think healing can ever be done.All of us has gone through tremendous problems and at any moment our anger can come out.We better find out something to cling on a hope to strive for.Like Dr Peterson hope to convey his message of view of world and way of living meaningfully
He used to act like a bully and now cries with self pity but disguises it as a kind of heroic struggle. He gave all sorts of advice which he didn't apply to himself. He blames his addiction on his wife's cancer. Shameful. He knows a lot of his fanbase are getting his message as a reinforcing of their beliefs including incels and racists. He may deny it but doesn't totally discourage it because he is first and foremost a careerist. Clever man though.
@@luckydave328 Show me one clip where he acted like a bully. Just one. I'll wait. His advice is built around trying to be the best version of yourself. He's a man who has literally pulled many struggling dissillusioned people out of despair, including myself. I'd say he's very much TRYING to be the best version of himself and his acedemic and publishing success and the positive improvements his ideas have made on other people's lives reflects that. He's not perfect, he's fallible. I don't agree with everything he's ever said on every subject, and he's stumbled and fallen and picked himself up again after battling his own demons - He's just human. His addiction was to drugs that he was prescribed - and his daughter has extensively covered this. Try watching some of Mikaela's podcasts for a real insight. For you to literally strawman that he somehow "blames" his wife for his addiction is utterly disgusting on your part. Hang your head in shame.
@@luckydave328 YOU SAID IT RIGHT. That's what i am saying all along. A pure narcissistic psycho. I was on his side a few years ago but man. This dude has tramsformed into a cry baby safeguarded by online presence and cult like tours. No more slaying the dragon.. more like slaying the wallet..
then at least russel is hated by the people of no consequence.....these people dont hate russel or Jordan, they hate themselves thats why they reject the truth's that jordan speaks because it shines a light on their own self destructive nature.
The huge gamble and fallacy the far left have ridden on is this idea that JP was a man of the right. The reason why JP resonates and was and continues to be important is actually that his message is against extremism, both right and left. Therefore if he is against the far left, they see an enemy, and they spent years trying to drag his name into the dirt. He embodies both a liberal and empirical way of approaching issues and a strong sense of traditional values which (I'll use academic like jargon here) attract a positive message towards religious thinking and the positivity of masculinity. "When I saw Jordan Peterson I realised that America just needs a Dad"
It's really nice to see Jordan able to talk without being constantly on his guard. Kudos to this interviewer for actually interviewing Jordan and drawing out interesting answers from him. Skilled journalism.
ABSOLUTELY! It’s really annoying when interviewers are combative as if THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.. Jordan is right most of the time but he’s not the most intelligent person on the planet which I discovered watching the religion debate with some dude that had Peterson on the ropes for most of the debate.. and petersons response to some topics were disappointing because I thought he was smarter than that.. But, I agree with you 100%!
@@hellabella8295 He's not even right most of the time, his contributions to his relevant field is in alcohol addiction and a few not worth anything papers on personality. Because he's a doctor you just defer to and trust his every word, Sam Harris, matt dillahunty. Just two names who when they hold Jordan to account for his word salad he gets amazingly upset. Says it all.
@@Lochias333 Poor little joshy, triggered by attacks of facts against daddy Peterson. Your use of the word mommy tells me you spent an age under her skirt begging for a daddy until Jordan came along and you started going slurp slurp feed me Jordan. 😂😙😂😂 cry some more for me. 😘😘🤪🤪🤪
Strangely, this skilled journalism is coming from a Comedian, rather than someone who's job it is to provide a quality interview, which to me is all the more impressive
what I took away from this interview is that even a fully skilled psychologist, who learned how the minds of people usually work, can fall into the abyss. And I am so happy that he beat the darkness. It is always a rocky road to get back. That means, for everyone who is struggling out there, keep going. Survive a day at a time. Sort your mind out. Put all the pieces in your mind together and watch the sun eventually rise again. Mental health is a serious thing and too many people think, they are alone with their struggle. No, you are not. Someone was there before you, someone is right there like you and someone has passed that point. Either on a good or bad note. But you can make it out of it. Open up, talk to someone you trust, get back up. Life is tough. But you can make it. You need to be sick and tired of the suffering and fight it. YOU CAN MAKE IT.
@Brigada Fighting a depression too. Once a while I look at some videos that involves Dokter Peterson. But this one overwhelmed me. Felt alot of empathy and respect for both because of them being honest and themselves.
@@tpilot_error404 hahaha me too: what is this primitive community called? district 12? back to basic as in build back better? the people on the right in small communities called districts, the people on the left the freaky city audience and there is the global elite's mmmmmm sound to me a lot like ...... ..... free mason 33 russel! right and left elite's don"t exist, they work together towards the same goal! there are only left and right people that is the divide!
what is this primitive community called? district 12? back to basic as in build back better? the people on the right in small communities called districts, the people on the left the freaky city audience and there is the global elite's mmmmmm sound to me a lot like ...... ..... free mason 33 russel! right and left elite's don"t exist, they work together towards the same goal! there are only left and right people that is the divide!
This is actually quite important for Russell of all people to do, given his audience. Well done. I don't agree with this man on all points, but hearing what he has to say gives me a better understanding and gets me out of my potential echo chamber.
Thank you. I was coming here to comment that. Although I recognise the dangers of echo chambers, humans are naturally drawn to them and find that outside of echo chambers can be ‘uncomfortable’ which is weird when you consider that if you were confident in your beliefs, scrutiny shouldn’t make you tremor.
Exactly my approach. Having different opinions and hearing different arguments are the only way to broaden your view on the world, but for many people it is difficult to break out of their own bubble because they don't even know they are in one. Peterson has controversial views, and I disagree with his opinions more often than that I agree with them, but that has nothing to do with him as a person. I don't know him... I can't judge his person. I can only judge his opinions and his actions, but independent from the person.
The problem is not difference of opinions but is related with the fact that some people are acting on those views and trying to destroy the personal freedom or take individuals rights of certain groups of individuals going from attacking women's rights to LGBTQ.
lovely to see russel and jordon so relaxed and so informal. thats the difference between a comedian who knows how to interview andn a normal interviewer, so real heartwrenching questions too. was a good watch.
Brilliant interview by Russell. He asked all the right questions and got Jordan to really open up. I don't think I've ever watched him in a better interview.
This was a great interview and I was impressed by Russel's interviewing skills, digging deep in a short time, asking good questions without being confrontational and creating an atmosphere of openness and warmth, really wonderful.
They seemed to have already established rapport, Jordan Peterson showed a warmth right off the bat that suggests to me that they've been talking prior to this interview. Of course, it could also just be his standard mode of being, or just how he felt in that moment, but I think in this case, there's something extra there in my opinion.
@@HeSaidThatHerGyatWasSoOhio Hmm. What do you mean exactly? What would you hope to get out of the interview by hearing those "tougher questions" (and presumably the answers to them), and could you give an example of such questions? Cheers.
This interview helped me to accept and integrate Jordan Peterson's philosophical views. I was put off by the rumours and second or third hand characterizations about him. I'm gladly corrected and enlarged by this new information. Save our children from click bait mind death.
Right?! Thank you, brother! I have held on to a book of his for one of my closest friends who is also going through a GRUELING time, just because I know they have likely only heard the lie, and I don't want to risk exacerbating their pain in any way.
That makes me really happy to hear that. Please, do what you can to convince those second and third party people that they've misjudged him. If you watch and read what he has to say, it is immensely clear that his main message is that everyone has the potential to do something amazing, and there's nothing more worthwhile than the pursuit of that. He's only controversial if you want to imagine that he is. Well unless you're far left or far right of course, then everything he says will be controversial to you. Because he's pretty adamant that you should take as much personal responsibility for the problems in your life as possible, and that's not really what radicals do.
It really amazes me how any person, woman, or man...could look at this man crying genuine tears and think that is weakness. I think he is so strong...even if he doesn't think so himself. He's been through hell and came back as a survivor.
I don't think crying is representative of weakness, but in his case it surely is. How come you people all follow this devout liar? He's made a career off lying about Bill-C16 and fearmongering and people still believe the things he has to say? He's quick to judge people and tell them to clean their room when evidenced with good points, meanwhile his life is more in ruins than the people he critizises. He's a genuinely sad and pathetic man and I feel sorry for him. Yes his tears were real - that doesn't mean much however. Even killers can cry.
@@MonkeyDIvan His life is in ruins, nice to see the compassion there, his family suffer from depression, his wife was diagnosed with terminal cancer and was told she had a limited time left, he was given pills to help cope with the stress, and became addicted to them and almost died getting off them, regardless of what you think about his politics hes a human being
Peterson is famous for crying on camera. He does that to create emotional responses in you mindless drones. And you fall for it like absolute suckers xD
I don’t know Russell well, but this interview made me respect him a lot as an interviewer and a human. The questions about music and dancing with his wife were so lovely. I know most other interviewers would have just left it at Jordan’s teary point and moved on to something else, but Russell questioned further about it :’) I like where his attention was and how genuine this conversation felt.
Well said. I guess what was stand out was Russell’s agenda was to understand the person. Many others have a different agenda (often linked to some aspect of identity politics).
All of the edgy comedians were removed from the BBC around the time that Russell was brought in, for more puritanical comedy, if such a thing exists. I'd sort of assumed he was one of the woke comedians that have killed tv comedy in the UK, but then again, he doesn't give away his insightfulness in his comedy, only earnestness.
@@carbon1255 I was also pleasantly surprised to learn Russel Howard had apparently read a lot of Peterson's stuff. I never had any reason to dislike the guy, but I kinda assumed he'd not entertain such a "controversial" figure to be associated with him. Makes me happy.
Watching Jordan try and control his emotions when he speaks about his wife and her suffering really resonates with me. It's hard to really compose yourself when something horrible happens. It's mainly why I suffer in my own mind. Sometimes it's okay to blurt out, Jordan. You keep up the great work that you do and inspire young men all over the world. You're an absolute idol.
@Gwyneth Armour That’s pretty mean-spirited. Why would want to be a negative influence on the world? Evil is accumulative and it often starts with those being deliberately uncharitable.
I haven't liked Russell for years, but seeing how open he's being here, seeing him acting like a decent human being and not trying to twist every word and statement out of context, has given me a lot more respect for him. And dare say even opened me up to being a fan again. Subscribed!
I think RH is a rubbish comedian but I thought he handled this interview commendably. The problem with most of the comments on here are that they emanate from those who already have a pre fixed agenda, who hang their views on a Right or Left hook; without which they would have no independent thought. So they hear something JP says, and because it doesn't slot into their world view, they dismiss it.
@@toperic02 not just all that though I agree with you, there's "thought" leaders who have pre-subscribed narratives and responses to practically anything. And idiots on mass absorb them and belch them back out like they're dropping truth bombs. And they may even realise themselves that they're talking nonsense, but they've been given a formula that they think will silence someone, make that person appear bad while making them appear moral. And they also hope what they're saying will convince others who can't or won't think. I used to like the terms zombies and sheep when it comes to those type of people, but NPCs really nails it. They're phantom mud slingers. Some think they're actually throwing mud. Others hope we don't notice their hands are empty
@@nicosmind3 Yep, binary thinking is prominent and the frightening thing about it is that not only can these simple folk now voice their non opinions anonymously through social media but they actually believe its their own thoughts.
I have to admit that I've never really "got" Russell's comedy but he did a really great job here: perfect balance of letting JP speak, gentle probing and making his own points which were well thought through and eloquent.
@@GregoryMcStevens Personally disagree as someone who grew up on good news I feel like he's come into his element more within the past half decade or so, the idea he's sold out is silly, beyond a few questionable views on lgbt stuff that kind of opposes Russell's previous statements, I think Jordan peterson is knowledgeable on alot of things especially mental health wise, boiling people down to there worst moment or "take" is a product of a toxic Internet mentality in my opinion
It's a bit of revelation for me hearing Dr Peterson confess that when he was in the depths of depression he couldn't handle the sensory overload of music. I experienced this last year after a major life shock and I've been a DJ for over 25 years so for me it was a particularly alienating experience, especially given that none of my friends could relate. I was too emotionally and mentally exhausted and sensitive to hear anything that might trigger deep melancholy. Thank you for this video Russell. Superb stuff.
Weirdly, the only music I could listen to after a major bereavement was the '69 Elvis comeback. Still don't really understand why. It didn't spoil it for me either, I can still happily listen to it. Perhaps it was the simplicity of it, there is nothing challenging about the songs or performance, it's pretty pure entertainment. Dunno.
Yes, it can be too over encompassing for your mind, especially when music speaks to you deeply, for me it sounds unbearably beautiful in a very harsh world if that makes sense
Ive only vaguely heard of JP, but Russell Howard is an absolute genius at interviewing ... the mixture of the precise observation, humility and humour that gets the best out of the interviewee, the interview with Greta Thunberg is really a classic.
This is massive for Russell to actually show the UK audience who Jordan Peterson really is. I’ve followed Jordan’s work for years and his work changed my life in every single way for the better. He pulled me out of a dark hole, and I genuinely believe his work should be on the NHS.
This interview is so underrated and truly captivating to see two people converse on a human level. Compared to JP other interviews this is amazing to see a more human side of JP and even Russell Howard. More of this. More respect for good journalism and being prepared to talk without bias but curiosity as well as insight into human physiology!
One of the best conducted interviews I have ever watched. The amount of empathy and ability to listen and to pose the questions with such respect even facing a person that many people do not fancy. Great work and amazing to watch.
Russel, i'm not going to pretend i'm your biggest fan, I watch your stuff every now and again. This interview with Jordan was amazing and your professionalism shone through. Thank you for this interview.
Didn't realise that Russell is such a fantastic interviewer. The respect between these 2 is obvious. So great the RH asks a question and then actually allows the interviewee answer. Definitely a career to fall back on if the old stand-up routine doesn't work out :-)
you mean the role of a drooling fanboi? Russell claimed to have read Petersons poorly written "books" and still missed the heaping helping of misogyny, missing citations for any of his generalized claims, the casual promotion of violence and the prescribed apathy in the face of society's problems?
@@kaivogel253 what a fantastic way to wave a big red flag on yourself. Thanks for being the absolute example of what a Tyrant is. Sheesh, you made short work of it people just have to see this. And the fact you sift through every comment in the section just to project yourself. Like, damn, give yourself some respect you don't have to reveal yourself to everyone. Lol.
He is unapologetically himself, in every moment, and unabashedly human in letting his emotions come and go as they please. I'm so happy he is feeling better. He is one person, that I have never met, that I genuinely wonder about weekly and hope he is happy and doing ok. So much to admire in Jordan, I want to be like him.
I wouldn’t aspire to be like him. Being a drug addict hooked on benzodiazepines because of panic attacks from an all-meat diet that you promoted to millions doesn’t sound like fun.
@@cam0875 I think the concept of modelling oneself on a “hero” is outdated. Human beings are complex, with good and bad features. The creation of “hero myths” is often very imaginative, and often those very heroes would shy away from fans trying to emulating, preferring instead that people do some learning and develop their own moral code.
The way he speaks about his wife, you can tell just how deep his love for her runs. I absolutely adore Jordan Peterson, he reminds me very much of my husband. What an absolutely brilliant interview, touching on things I never knew before such as him liking the band Arcade Fire. Jordan Peterson is one of those very rare types of people, and we need more people like him in the world.
@@neonwired4978 For context, I sit on the left of politics. But Jordan Peterson isn't a hateful bigot. He's a person with different views to you and you don't like it. If anything, you're being hateful and a bigot here.
@@DeanoMac29 no, he is a hateful bigot, he has persistently proven his prejudices and lies time and time again. This isn't in question. The only people defending him are his fellow bigots. What you describe is literally the fallacy of tolerance.
@@neonwired4978 On top of asking "How?", I should add that even if you held certain information regarding said prejudices and lies, other people may not, and thus in defending them they are not necessarily "fellow bigots". You're assuming that others have the same knowledge of him that you do. Unless of course you were being hyperbolic about the "only" people defending him being fellow bigots
I would whittle down the quote to "You can agree with someone's opinion, without agreeing with all of their opinions". The description of his depression was very accurate - you forget that there is enjoyment and contentment in the mundane things in life. It's tempting to think you need big 'wow' factors to get out of it, but in reality you need to get back to enjoying a simple cup of tea or a walk with a pet, or the joy of a great TV show.
A pretty good example of that quote is Piers Morgan. He's a colossal twat, but there was a period of time during the pandemic when he was more or less the only interviewer unwilling to put up with the bullshit of the government ministers he was interviewing, and their inability to answer questions asked of them. He wouldn't let them get away with it, so while he is a twat, on those occasions, he was a twat pointed in what many would consider to be the correct direction.
@@DavidAKJohnson As much as I strongly disagree with Piers on some things, he is far from being termed as a village idiot... given the wealth and utter fame he has accumulated.
Great interview. I’ve always found Peterson to be a sincere guy with a positive message. It baffles me that some people see him as hateful, toxic etc but I suppose he’s right - it’s all projection.
I think he gets away with saying that in this interview, he consistently misrepresents hot button topics and he either does so deliberately or doesn't really understand what's at stake (which might even be worse). Behind his headline positive messages there's often some dubious subtext or even falsehood that he glosses over. I used to like him but after a while those added up for me and ever since i've found him to be a disingenuous person clinging onto 'cancel culture' for relevancy.
Ideologues find it difficult to change their opinions no matter what evidence is presented to them. They are forced to question their dogmatic views and this difficult, since so much of their persona is built on them.
He is a typical individualist conservative like thatcher. He literally writes books getting people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. As a core message that IS good. And of course you can easily counter that with the left wing argument that there are structural issues that need to be resolved first. Neither argument is right it is a mix of the two and it goes to show how far society has been polarised that his view is so divisive.
@@yupyupyup732 What claims has he made that add up to you believing he acts in bad faith? I ask just because I've heared a lot of people saying that he misrepresents issues but when I actually hear what they think his takes are, I usually find some missunderstangs of what he is actually saying.
I'm not generally a fan of Russell's stand up, but this was a great interview. Solid heartfelt questions where he actually listened to the prior answer (which is rare in interviewers these days). Good stuff!
Why is it you feel the need to say something as shitty as your opinion on his standup before you praised this video? It's such a toxic statement you pass off as a compliment
@@GeorgeZacharopoulos Probably as a qualifier to show that he isn't some zealot that blindly loves everything RH does. Also it's not shitty to say that you're not a fan of a person's work
@@NameName-wf7cb no that's total crap. It isn't like he watched a comedy clip and said oh normally I'm not into your comedy but this clip has proven otherwise. It's a completely different setting, RH's material is totally irrelevant to this interview. This is just knocking down with one hand to build with the other. Just pay the compliment without having to criticize at the same time. It's like telling a model who is also a doctor that "I don't normally find you attractive but well done on this diagnosis".
Of all the Jordan Peterson interviews I'v seen, this has to be one of the best. Big fan of both these, guys - what a joy to watch, could have watched them talk for an hour or two.
It's a beautiful thing when two people actually talk to each other and exchange ideas. So often one or the other will forcibly impose their views and block any attempt at genuine dialogue. I like Russell Howard when he fills the centre ground and doesn't lean to far left, this was a good interview especially as Jordan Peterson opened up about himself and got very emotional. Having been where he has and still struggling to find some happiness and purpose it gives me a lot of hope to see him working again.
to be so fucking blind to all the hypocrisy that comes as a trademark of Peterson is saddening. Good job Russell on being indoctrinated by this snakeoil salesman for incels with daddy issues.
@@kaivogel253 You are a sad human being. Just because you disagree politically, just because you don't agree with his views, you call someone else names to dehumanize this person. You saw his emotions, you saw his trauma, but just because of your views you think of him as less than human. You are sad. I have not seen many lefties act like you and to increase my hope in humanity, I hope I never see people like you ever again.
@@kaivogel253 If you had bothered to listen, Mr Peterson actually said that free speech and listening to other opinions is the way to learn that you may not be as right about everything as you think. Try maybe listening to someone without pre conceived ideas about what you think they are going to say, you may not agree with everything, but I would be amazed if their ideas did not at least give you pause for thought about your own beliefs on how the world works. Everything is grey and not black and white, and it is OK to have sympathies with some of the ideas of those you generally disagree with.
@@kaivogel253 you should really try to see peterson's perspective a little more. More precisley when he speaks about the buffon and the tyrant. You might see yourself in one of those characters...
Thank you Russel. This was a good, respectful interview. We desperately need more interviews like this. These days interviews are about the drama because drama sells. But journalistic integrity is so important. And you bring it into the spotlight again. Thank you.
@@annehudson3210 he is a drooling fanboy who might have read but missed the towering mountain of red flags that come with Peterson's bullshit ideology (that also comes free of any citations whatsoever ^^)
@@percepctiveproductions9731 that's easy: what about the time he complained that society deemed it wrong if he punched a woman: ruclips.net/video/dL3Hrwg3A3w/видео.html and that it's important for civilization that a threat for physical violence exists in any argument. and in this one ruclips.net/video/XBu6xI1iUM0/видео.html he calls the mass murder of at least 40.000 helpless handicapped people by the nazis "merciful". With no other explanation. This monstrous atrocity is mentioned by him in the context of "cleaning up". What a disgusting repetition of nazi propaganda. And these are just two examples. There is so much more.
@Scott Donnelly he complained that society deemed it wrong if he punched a woman: ruclips.net/video/dL3Hrwg3A3w/видео.html and that it's important for civilization that a threat for physical violence exists in any argument. and in this one ruclips.net/video/XBu6xI1iUM0/видео.html he calls the mass murder of at least 40.000 helpless handicapped people by the nazis "merciful". With no other explanation. This monstrous atrocity is mentioned by him in the context of "cleaning up". What a disgusting repetition of nazi propaganda. And these are just two examples. There is so much more. Oh and never forget he lied from the start about Bill C16 and NEVER challenged it as a citizen, which would be his right xD he's just keeping it up so he can create a fake outrage about it. Oh and he tried to sue two professors who critized him in private xD WHILE HE PRETENDS TO BE ABOUT FREE SPEECH. BUT HE CAN'T TAKE IT IF SOMEBODY CRITICIZES HIM xD
What a man.. wow. "You need something meaningful to set against suffering" What he said about viewing yourself on the outside, you can eventually find something that's curative. That's so hopeful. That really resonated with me.. everyone's journey is different and ultimately it's what we take from our trials, our battles and challenges, what we learn from them and use as tools in life going forward.
So glad to see someone as mainstream as Russell Howard giving Dr Peterson a fair portrayal. He has been misunderstood, misquoted and demonized in the press for years 🖖🏼
I had been following JP lectures well before he ever got thrust into the political spotlight. At that time I was wasting away unemployed, unhealthy, horrible habits but I enjoyed watching his uni lectures because I had a psych undergrad degree, albeit one I couldn't use because I was going nowhere in life. Im 100% not saying it's because of him. I'm not that dramatic, but in those past 5 years I turned my life around. I got jobs. I graduated with a 3.96 GPA Masters degree from the same school I had gotten a 2.1 GPA bachelor's just 5 year's prior. I've presented at national conferences, I went from someone with no self respect to somehow having the respect of others and am now in doctoral school for clinical psych. Sometimes I still have no idea how it happened. I was dead in the water. I was blessed for another chance at life. Blessed my family & friends didn't turn on me when I did things that would have warranted that. Again it's certainly not watching his lectures that fixed me. Don't get me wrong. But this man along many other men & women have taught me certain lessons that pushed me forward. It's amazing to see what this guy has been through and how he continues on. I think somehow that's what I had been trying to do these past 5 years too. At 25 I was a dead beat, but at 31 revitalized. I hope we can all find a purpose to move forward and I hope I can continue following mine. Respect to the doc.
That's great to hear man, thanks for sharing. Myself and many others I'm sure have gone through a similar process....I'm not where I want to be yet but I'm finally on the right track. Good luck with your career, I'm sure you'll be helping many people on their path.
Hate to break it to you, but if you were that influenced by Petersen and couldn't figure it out on your own....... I doubt many people actually have respect for you.
Feels, major feels. Anyone that has been through life threatening depression can see the realness in this guy, no matter if you agree or not with his views, you cannot deny how raw and real he remains from day 1.
depression doesn't give you a get-out-of-jail-free card for inciting a disinformation campaign that spreads hatred against women and minorities. He is an absolue disgrace and should have lost his license decades ago.
it is not his views, he talks about what is pretty common in broad academic world he just had balls to say it. others like me are just scared to be ousted and rejected by society if we speak up. so we keep quiet.
THAT was a powerful interview. Bloody hell. Russel, please do more like this. You handled the pace and content and tone with such finesse. You are very, very good at it. I would have loved to have seen the 30 minute version.
I’ve never really rated Russell but this interview has made me see him very differently. His interview style and willingness to show Jordan in his truest form is very telling. You can see that in turn Jordan is very emotive and personable in his demeanour. Well done both!
I was thinking about this exact thing. A few years back on his Good News show his jokes were very similar to many other left leaning comedy news shows but seeing him on other panel shows, I always felt like he was a sensible person somewhere in the middle. I guess he represents the classical liberal majority who had been going along with the extreme left's categorization of people like Jordan Peterson, (maybe because they didn't have the time to research everyone on their own) but perhaps, dare I say, maybe they've started to get wise and think for themselves.
To get a man on any level to show emotion in an interview is a high level of comfort. Russell did an incredible job with this interview. More intelligent interviews like this would be amazing
Russell starting stuttering "C...C...C" and seemed really uncomfortable when JP started crying. An interesting interview with keen, clear observations and comments made by Russell Howard and Jordan Peterson.
He is a genius and I am glad to have lived my life with his voice in my ears. Telling me that I’m not crazy, that I’m not alone in this crazy world. Long live this legend
My friend, couldn’t of put it better myself. He is a man that is so important to mannkind right now and I don’t think we’ll realise it until he’s gone.
I just want to say as someone going through extreme circumstances at the moment, and seeing this uploaded 6 days ago, is extremely helpful. Recently I’ve looked up to Jordan Peterson for the longest, and this video proves to us that from the best to worst of circumstances, we’re all human and experience pain. I hope I go into psychology and learn much more in that field
I'm used to seeing him debating all the time, it's so nice to see him in a discussion where both sides agree and he can talk more about himself. No guard or verbal strategy needed. I Really like him, brought a tear to the eye. All the best to them both
It is tough to mourn a loving connection, good the hear that there is still yet time for J.P to share quality moments with his wife. His exploration of life and of faith is also interesting and insightful. May God be with him and his family providing strength and love.
Wow, what an emotional interview... its awesome to see him open up so much. People that are fooled into thinking he's a wolf in sheep's clothing need to really start challenging themselves more. This guy has a lot of wisdom and insight to share with the world.
yes. It's the others who are all wrong. You remember that interview in which Peterson said that during one of his insane diets he drank some cider, had a bad reaction to it and stayed awake for 25 days? :) You know you can google how long the longest recorded period of insomnia lasted. Go ahead :) you're not gonna like what you find.
@@rayansaroar9799 oh so that's what you're calling lying now :) what a nice worldview you must have. Just declare everything the way you want. So why do you hate trans people again? ;)
@@kaivogel253 Hi Kai. I hope you are well today. Can I ask you why you believe there is no possibility that Mr Peterson made a throw-away hyperbolic comment? Everyone knows that it is impossible, or at least very, very unlikely that we could stay awake for that amount of time; or is it? So, either a) he did engage in hyperbolics or b) he did stay away for 25 days or c) he lied about it for no apparent reason. Why would he lie about something like this? And then you mention the real reason for your criticism, that you accuse someone of hating trans people. And you accuse the commenter of this - totally out of the blue- because he suggested that that JP was being hyperbolic. How on earth did you jump from JP "lying" to that. I suspect that unfortunately you have a biased agenda. And if, indirectly, you were accusing JP of this, then I suggest you need to watch much more of his videos where many times he clearly states that he has no issue with trans people, or any other grouping for that matter. I take it that you are not trans yourself but that you are taking offence on their behalf?
neither are lol. Russell is a fair character who is very much milktoast whereas Peterson is neither here nor their and is just another tv talking head.
Being grateful for mundane normality... oh yeah, I've been in that situation where boring would have been a blessing. I think JP has shown a lot of people how to express their emotions without compromising their intellect and merging those aspects of a logical conversation with heartfelt transparency. Great stuff.
Peterson spends a lot of his time preaching to embrace violence, to be a monster and so on, needing to be the most powerful etc. He is nothing but a slippery slope for empty-headed boys with daddy deficiency who need somebody to explain to them why they are losers and whose fault everything is (surprise surprise it's the women)
@@kaivogel253 You're completely misinterpreting everything the guy says and are angry due to your own ignorance. That's not Dr. Peterson's fault. Once you've had positive influence on millions of people, then you'll have a position to be taken seriously. Until then, you're a sad, impotent person on the internet desperately trying to punch up. You're just whiffing. Fix your life.
I've been listening to JP for a few years and absolutely adore him. He's a very well educated and intelligent human being. I can listen to him for hours.
@@EnclosedPoolArea Ironically, that makes you sound a bit of a Muppet. If you have only given him 2 minutes, you will have missed out on learning from one of the most enlightened people of our time. Maybe you should break out from your enclosed pool area and be more receptive to the content of what people say, rather than discriminating on the basis of how they sound? yaaaay
@@steven5054 You have a very narrow-minded conception of what the term "enlightened" means. Phil doesn't mean that Jordan has some supreme metaphysical knowledge of reality; rather, that his knowledge, acquired through years of first-hand experience and learning, of what it means to be a decent human, how to overcome suffering, etc. - more existential themes - are what make JP as great as he is
Loved this, always felt RH had some depth to him, this proves it to me. Seeing JP comfortable, laughing, relaxed was a lovely thing to behold. Shed some tears at this one.
I loved this. Whether you agree with Peterson's beliefs or not, this interview is important for helping us see him as more than just an ideology. Many interviewers have seen him as a 'problem' or a 'puzzle' to crack instead of trying to understand and engage with what he says. As a comedian, Russell understands (i think) that there's a difficulty to judge whether something may be seen as offensive or not and that means he has had to think about subjects enough to understand multiple perspectives. Honestly, this reminded me of John Stewart's interviewing style and it makes me very happy to see someone else get even close to that level of unbiased inquisitive questioning. Well done Russell, I'd love to see a much longer interview with the two of you.
What both people hostile and sympathetic to JP don't understand, is that he does NOTHING ground-breaking or does not speak anything that ISN'T obvious - well, wasn't obvious as much as generation ago.
@@piotrd.4850 That may well be correct, but I think it undeniable that he is able (for the most part) to put across ideas in an engaging and easy to absorb manner. This in itself has value.
@@piotrd.4850 Something being extremely meaningful and impactful doesn't mean it is ground-breaking. There's no point introducing ideas that are way out of the realm of most people if your goal is to improve people's lives.
they are fundamental if one is already braindead. He has nothing constructive to offer, he endorses violence, preaches hate against women and lies every other sentence. Pathetic to fall for a conman like him and larp him up as a prophet of some sort.
I never say stuff like this but every detail in this video is calculated, the lighting on host: brighter and warmer, on the guest: cooler and less intense, less contrast but dull. the framing for the host: wider and he is placed on the thirds, guest in intense moments: dead center and much tighter framing. Everything is meticulously planned and perfectly executed. Well done
From 10:35 onwards, I love how Russell and Jordan Peterson are talking about comedians and artists being on the boundaries, and yet, here is Russell, a comedian, conducting one of the most normal, thoughtful and unoppressive interviews with Dr Peterson I've ever seen, where you get to see Peterson as a person and not just a figure in the media. Far better than most other interviews on major television channels.
It's great to see interviews like this. And its also great to see a generally left-leaning and a right-leaning figure have a civilised conversation in which they don't feel the need to attack each other.
JP isnt right leaning - just because he's not 'your' politics doesn't mean he's on the other end of the spectrum. It's worth really listening to and reading what this man says.
@@mpenton1 actually…he is generally slightly conservative, even though he has said he prefers not to talk about politics, but is forced to do so. The man’s a psychologist, not a politician, I know. And it is actually my side of politics, I’m centre-right (albeit with some certain left-wing sympathies regarding specific topics). I tend to agree with Jordan on many things, and he’s always interesting to listen to. I think you just misinterpreted my comment. For what it’s worth, I absolutely agree with you.
@@CVHFitness he is not slightly conservative, he is a christian fundamentalist, who endorses violence, spreads nazi propaganda myths and recently he made two videos misrepresenting both anti-racism and anti-fascism. He is a fascist through and through. Just check how often he weaves anecdotes about his idol Adolf Hitler into his talks.
I know he’s controversial and I honestly have not followed his work one way or another. But I relate to his love and loss. I have been through the same experience with my wife of 35 years but without the happy ending. She went so fast. The last days every kiss could be the last kiss - until it was. I has taken me. Over six years later I am still triggered to cry (like he was here) at unpredictable inappropriate times. You can’t predict what will strike that nerve. Happiness is a memory but you learn to go through the pantomime of life on impulse not choice. No kids just US. Now just me. The pain of loss is an open wound that does not heal; it’s too deep - eternally raw. But you learn to cope and function within the pain, like any other physical handicap, I guess. I lost our cat of 16 years only months after my wife. That finished me for quite some time. Like he said, I often muster the capacity to connect with the gratitude for life itself. My life now is only functional - but at least I CAN function, so there’s that. I drifted through the 1st Christmas but the 2nd put me in the psych ward for 10 days. The 7th is looming like a roiling fire on the horizon. I DREAD it each year. The only thing keeping me going is MY CATS - 3 of them. It took me three years to even consider have anything living (including plants) in my life again. Without fail, they literally make me laugh every day. Their presents gives me so much moment to moment joy. Each one of them special in their own unique way. I am now at an age where every decision becomes a lifetime choice simply isn’t enough time left to change your mind and do something else. Money and time are in a race to see which will be the first to cross the finish line. With any luck they will outlive me - I could cope with another loss. And so I embrace each day with them and my memories. In my dreams she is often with me. It’s like she was gone and yet she’s back and we talk about how we will somehow explain this joyous miracle to our friends. And then I wake - the joy fades like a reverse Polaroid leaving me paralyzed by my inescapable reality. But those furry loving beacons of light give me the reason to meet another day - they keep me going for one more day. My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced this depth of grief. I hope you find your beacon to light your path through this unending night.
You have a big heart, keep it open, you'll never replace your lost wife and you'll cherish her memory for the rest of your days but you have to keep your heart open. Keep it up buddy
Even when you wake up from a beautiful dream, and devastated by the fading joy as your mind clears up, know that there is always more dreams to come. And who are we to say that dreams are any less true than reality? I have this version of dreams, too. They come back a lot, I can assure you.
Once in every ten million or so RUclips comments, there's a beautiful one like this. I hope one day that the rolling fire slows, settles, and eventually warms you. And your cats. 🐈
I Love Jordan Peterson. He speaks from the heart.....and speaks TRUTH. It terrifies people, to confront TRUTH. Example......an alcoholic, who says he doesn't have a drink problem. Or the same for a drug taker, who screwing up his health or Life. Great video Russel
Howard knew his mainstream 'leftie' beliefs would have been destroyed and so effectively submitted to Peterson by not challenging any of his views. Very cowardly.
@@agt155 Many "mainstream leftie" beliefs are also held by Peterson. There are positive aspects on both sides of the political spectrum, to berate one so childishly is to deprive yourself of any benefits they could provide you with. People never seem to realise that people with different political views still ultimately want the same things you do, just believe the way to achieving them is by a different style of government to what you want.
It's really nice to see him this vulnerable. It makes me feel less distant from his advice. I definitely sympathize with happiness not being an option sometimes.
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It's a strange world we live in where comedians and celebrities like Russel Howard and Russel Brand often do better interviews than journalists and newscasters.
Very true wtf
I think because to be a comic you have to be very sensitive to societal ground movements whilst although a journalist may be, they are there either with a personal or corporate agenda or with a brief to challenge the interviewee in the interests of impartiality. They aren't there to just listen. Russel just listens without judgement and the result is an honest interview.
It does have something to do with them being comedians and unafraid to say what they think, people with an open mind are usually more socialy intelligent and understand what the little things mean and can challenge them
I think it's the charisma that comedians/celebrities tend to have
Right? I've seen John Oliver and Trevor Noah conduct more tactful and insightful interviews than most people on CNN
"In a king's court, the jester is the only one who can tell the truth"
How astute and accurate this is when comedians are giving better interviews than main stream journalism.
The sad thing is, the people he is criticising will see themselves as king, not tyrant.
I believe he's said this before when talking with another comedian, I believe fry
great point
@@Sui_Generis0 Many have said this before as well.
obviously, there's a difference when a women or a men interview him…womens want to "break" him
This is the first time I have ever seen Jordan Paterson portrayed properly as a real life person.
Yea strange how when hes not treated like hitler re-incarnated he seems human..
@@MercedesMan everything I don't like is literally Hitler
here he is portraying himself defending the incredibly racist bell curve, alongside known white nationalist Stefan Molyneux: ruclips.net/video/iF8F7tjmy_U/видео.html
@@MercedesMan I still don't understand how he's gotten that image/reputation, but I thought he was very alt-right grin the media as well. Watch/listen to one of his lectures (they're all over RUclips and a podcast) and tell me it's not logical and inspiring.
@@christyguy59 No idea who that guy is, but Peterson disagreed with him when he says there is a difference in men and women's IQ. The rest of the video is just talking about genetic components/limits to IQ, and that unfortunately, unlike exercise increases the bodies physical abilities, none of the "brain training" programs have successfully increased one's IQ.
Props to Russel Howard for having the balls to interview Jordan Peterson fairly, not only that but conduct one of the most profesional interviews I've seen in years, the media could learn a thing or two about open and polite discussion.
On the contrary, it was an opportunity missed, It needed a lot more in depth questions and needed to be much longer. I like both people but this was a let down, non event.
@@bign_musicI think it definitely could’ve been more in depth, however, it was still very professionally mannered
@@thespanishcartel957 His manners were fine
Good journalism isn't about having manners
@@sheep3370 False, you can still get to the facts without being a ill mannered manlette.
It's great to see a UK comedian with a more mainstream audience finally sitting down to talk with Jordan. Thanks Russell
Russel has been the goat for years now he barely even does comedy anymore
Two Russell’s! Don’t forget Brand
@@thenewnationpodcast Brand is fantastic at what he does but I can find his mannerisms ruin the interviews for me sometimes. Although I did really enjoy his first book on recovery.
Russell is a corporate monkey!..
And a proper convo that's not all about trying to catch him out like all the news channels and that try to do.
I’ve never seen Jordan Peterson smile as much as he did in this interview….and it’s fantastic.
unfortunately he never skips a chance to squeeze out a fake tear :D about the fake people he helped
@@kaivogel253 honestly!?!
You have absolutely no reason to say this!?! What’s the matter with you??
Do you need a hug??
@@kaivogel253 he may not have helped you but he has helped millions of people
Yes and beeing so vitty, looks like his old self.
@@kaivogel253 Are you here because of George Floyd?
Such a breath of fresh air to see an interview where the interviewer doesn't have an agenda but actually approached it with sincere curiosity.
Considering Russell has been more left with his comedy since he started Hour, I'm absolutely surprised to see him turning back to a more 'I don't give an f-' attitude like he had with Good News, especially interviewing Jordan Peterson. Very happy to see this!
I mean, he does have an "agenda", because he clearly already likes him and was a fan. That's an agenda, of a sort.
Russell is always like that. A very good interviewer and asks good, often insightful questions with sincerity. Certainly become more than a comedian.
"So you're saying [uncharitable take]?" ad nauseum.
@@FirlowXD The trouble I find with most of the Jordan Peterson interviews is that the interviewers immediately attack him with questions based on their own biases. I like interesting questions followed by interesting answers so I can make up my own mind and form my own opinions.
12 days sober thanks to this great man. Haven't stopped drinking in 15 years. And I'm not looking back. Doing it for my 7mo old daughter as my jolt, but continuing for ME. I just want to give him a hug or something.
Well done ❤️ hope you are still going strong 💪
Rewatching, saw your comment. Hoping all well with your sobriety.
God bless you
Get well soon Sir. 👍🏻🙏🏻
Lesgo man🤘🏾🤘🏾
This is exactly how journalism should be conducted: empathetic, caring, understanding, objective (non-biased), probing but at the same time respecting the guest's boundaries. Good job, Russell. You've earnt my respect
Would be nice if Jordan Peterson extended those same values when he discusses people
Pretty sure he does, lol
@@rubricalchunk1831 he literally said women deserve to be raped for wearing red lipstick in work if you don’t believe me watch his vice interview
@@ryanharris6850 I have seen it. You are misinformed my friend! 😂
@@ryanharris6850 The old one from way back? He did not say that, go watch the vice interview again "if you don't believe me." From what I remember, my interpretation was that he just went defensive when he after a few minutes realized the interviewer was up to no good, and took on the role of a provocateur. (Ironically, he was provoked into provoking!) He was just asking questions and pointing out problems that exist, sometimes hinting towards/suggesting some provoking alternative solutions, but his intent was clearly to provoke/shock by saying things that were outside of the perceived scope of what you could say: challenging the boundaries, basically. Towards the end of the interview, I remember him saying something to the effect of, "We can't talk about these things in our culture." It pretty much summarizes what he was trying to get at in the interview. I'm sure he today would have chosen to go about things differently in that interview, but I give him some slack for that one.
This was one of the most genuine and well-conducted interviews I have ever watched. The value of actually listening to someone else should never be sidelined.
meanwhile that senile old demagogue came up with a whole plethora of climate change denial and antivaxxer tweets - the pUbLiC iNtElLeCtUaL
@@kaivogel253 I in no way commented on any of Peterson's rhetoric, I merely praised the interview process highlighted in the video.
@@justinbenoit9346 the senile one is creepy joe of course ;-)
@@kaivogel253 BS.
@@kaivogel253 did you even listen to that podcast from beginning to the end? You understand nothing
It's been a *_LOOOONNNNG_* time since an interview this good happened on any major network. Podcasts and channels like this do interviews this good _every single day_ and they are making mainstream outlets look like amateurs.
Also, it's just great to see Peterson out on the circuit again doing talks, on-site interviews, etc. I think this tour will be even more important than the one he did a few years ago. It's like a victory lap.
The Main stream media are amateurs. I mean look, the word professionalism's root is profess for a reason and the main stream media has long ago started to profess wokeness and other bullshit ideology. They don't profess to bring something worth their customers time to their customers attention. They say they do but that's not the same as professing.. like a falsely accused person would profess their innocence. So yeah, they're amateurs in every since of the word.
Agreeed
really hasnt tbh. Theres always you guys in the comment section saying "we NEEEEED more conversations like this" or FINALLYYYY so cringy
Brilliant assessment. I watched your analysis of Peterson’s communication a few weeks ago, really great. I enioy your analyses, keep them coming.
must be American
I'm grateful for Russell asking him questions about "mundane" things of life like playlists etc, and it seems JP was too, as he appreciates these things more than ever.
Well done Russell. THIS is how you conduct an interview. Absolutely no agenda towards Jordan whatsoever. Was a pleasure to watch, thank you too both of you for just being yourselves.
It's actually given me more respect for Russel when it was starting to wither. Top lad he is 😊
@@neezduts69420 Speaks volumes doesn't it bro?
Also didn’t push back at all and acted like a fan boy
@@neezduts69420 someone sounds defensive of their cult leader.
Not mad just saying it was basically a fan interview
@@Bickle121 also stay mad
Russel is actually such a good interviewer this was brilliantly done
Extraordinarily brilliant. The depth of love Jordan clearly has for his wife, is also admirable
That was a very good interview. I don't agree with everything Jordan says. But, I did learn some things.
Thoroughly agree. Not sycophantic not adversarial just a proper conversation with both parties chipping in with shared experiences to back the narrative. Really good!
@@waynerobertson511 exactly you don't have to agree with someone to interview them or to know that an interview was conducted well.
He’s so good at it for the same reason his comedy is so sharp - his intelligence and capacity for empathy filtered through his humour
Not gonna lie, that got me & I shed a tear. Fantastic interview, no politics, no "gotcha" attempts, no offence harvesting, just a good, rational & interesting interview.
All his interviews are just how you described. It's the bad interviewers who make it about politics and offence, and Jordan usually deals with those people appropriately.
@@raoulduke344 by twisting his face into a fist so the anger and hate can shine xD so easy to see through, your liar prophet
@@kaivogel253 "your liar prophet"? He's neither mine nor a liar nor a prophet. He is not full of anger and hate - instead, he uses logic, pragmatism and his intellect to explain his position on certain subjects.
I really don't know what it is that you're trying to say.
In all honesty, that's always been Russell's interview strategy. He asks what the person is comfortable with talking about.
Peterson has dabbled enough in politics, what with spreading falsehoods, toxic and unprofessional behavior. The man isn't even seen as a prominent figure within psychology nor is he a respected one. The only reason why he is here is because he is famous and a controversial figure comparable to Ben Shapiro.
When he said "if you can sit down and breath...... there's lots of people that don't have that", I just burst into tears. I'm a 52 yr old man, single for 18 years because of mental health issues after suffering some major sexual, verbal, mental and physical abuse as a child and young teen; but still now after all that and all the struggle that came after and the ongoing issues that are smaller but more manageable - even with that in mind, I'm still healthier than many my age, a small little business of my own, have a roof over my head and some money in the bank (though lockdown used up a lot of it), not a lot by most peoples standards my age, but enough to fund for my daily needs, and some friends to call my own. I have everything I need and more than most, especially with the Ukrainian war going on.
I should be thankful more often, not to god, because he cannot exist and my life have been as it was - but just "thankful" in general.
Edit: I'm so very grateful for all the replies and messages, and even more for those that have expressed a feeling of hope, however small, from my words - truth is I have often wondered at "my purpose" in life, as we all often do, with no children, spouse or significant other and few friends whom do not have any form of personal reliance on my continued survival, it would not be too much of an exaggeration to say that were I to die in my sleep tonight, there would be little words or feelings of loss at my passing - but each day I continue to wake up, and occasionally get a message from someone like Chico's Mommy, and I guess that might be my purpose, to show "a life", even one as small and limited as mine, is still possible.
@@hannahreynolds7611 That's very kind of you Hannah Thank you :) Bit by bit, Day by day.
Good luck mate. I'm sure anyone who's read your post will wish you well
Congratulations on being able to conquer back your life after a really bad start, and appreciating the things that are good in your life. I don't know if the words of a random stranger on the internet mean anything to you, but I was moved by what you wrote, and wish you nothing but happiness and success going forward. Stay strong, battle these mental health demons, and send them back to hell. Sending my thoughts to you.
@@HauptgefreiterB That's so very kind of you and a words of kindness from a stranger are so much more meaningful than from those around us daily, because it takes an act of purpose to take the time to make them known; a purpose not required, but done anyway out of genuine feeling. It's these occasions when Humans show the best of themselves XX. (eh? Somehow I've become a philospher too? I'll take it.) As for the Demons I keep them in a box, sometimes they get out but I've become quite good at corralling them up again - surprisingly earworms turn out to be a very good defensive mechanism to take up the "empty" space the Demons like to inhabit (the place the "bad voices" we all have like to live) when I'm not actively concentrating on something, although LOL, I do get some doozy's on occasion - a few weeks back I had "Duke of Earl" (By Gene Chandler) for a whole day, (and sung by Fran, the annoying, nasally afflicted hooker in the film "man with two brains") as my internal jukebox seems to contain every bit of music I've ever heard, including all the crap / weird stuff. Google "the birdie song" yeah that afflicts me on occasion too, haha.
Hope you're doing good. Best wishes.
Oh wow, I never imagined Russell ever having a discussion with Jordan Peterson. Respect to this guy. I'm a fan of both.
Why wouldn’t he? It was just a conversation about music.
@@arjanpetersen Most interviewers just bash Jordan.
Thank you, Russell. I will admit that I was one of those people that had heard about him second-hand and made conclusions. This interview is an important reminder that you don't have to agree with everything someone says, but that doesn't mean they're the worst person on the planet. Thank you for bridging the divide and hosting this interview.
Go research on the accusations against him. They're all lies
Have a listen to his lectures from his previous tour. Will change your life, even if you don't agree with everything 🙂
This man is so enlightened! Because he’s orating in our current pc culture many bash him but he is so honest about reality and how many twist things for their own benefit while ignoring blatant hypocrisy! This man is brilliant, not everyone’s cup of tea but I think everyone should listen to his opinion.
@@thearmchairjournalist566 here he is defending the incredibly racist bell curve with known white naitonalist stefan molyneux ruclips.net/video/iF8F7tjmy_U/видео.html
@@christyguy59 given Molyneux's opinions on race and IQ Peterson was quite measured. no one who works in this field denigrates the veracity of the data, only what conclusions we draw.
given the data going back 100 years it's a difficult subject to navigate even for the most articulate professional in this field like peterson.
This is proper journalism, asking relevant questions but from a neutral and open standpoint. It represents the interviewee in the most genuine possible way and allows you to form your own opinions from there rather than from a view already tainted by someone else’s agenda.
@Kenneth Hymes go and watch jammela Jamil rant who tf are you
@Kenneth Hymes Peterson’s work is the opposite of destructive. It consolidates all that evolutionary biology, psychology and ethics tells us is needed for a healthy, productive society. And it starts with the individual.
It’s clear from your comment that you’re one of those people that Jordan talks about in his opening remarks here. You’re not angry at Jordan, but at what he’s been shown, erroneously, to represent by people who are dead set against sovereignty of the individual, personal responsibility, freedom of expression, and those tools which make a productive society. Don’t be that person; it makes you seem dull and ignorant. I used to think that way until I realised I’d been hating this man whose work I’d never read and whose words I’d never given any time or thought towards. I only disliked him because others said I should, and that’s no way for anyone to formulate an opinion, nevermind something as strong as hatred for another human being.
@Kenneth Hymes Oh piss off and take your hatred with you back to your basement.
@Kenneth Hymes So please share more than subjective evaluations. Point us directly to the material that shows a "record of dishonesty...intellectual fraud" and "harm to vulnerable communities". Or, does just asking this constitute proof that I'm wrong'un?
@Kenneth Hymes I definitely don’t agree with Jordan on all his views, but fundamentally he’s a good, intelligent man with strong morals. He isn’t “hateful” and “regressive” and he certainly isn’t an ignoramus. Even more so because he actually doesn’t say anything that outrageous, you’re wrong, he absolutely does deserve respect, just like every other human being does. And attention? As I said, he is an intelligent man with very important perspectives on certain issues, plus he has written multiple books which I know have helped thousands of people. Furthermore, he has clearly experienced severe mental health hardship, and the fact that he survived such an extreme case of this means he has valuable advice to give to others going through the same thing. So I’d argue yes, he does deserve attention.
I genuinely don’t know what you mean by “launder their destructive histories” so I won’t comment on that.
Just let yourself be a little more open-minded with things like this. I too used to dislike Jordan Peterson, and I still wouldn’t say I’d call myself a fan of his, but I have developed respect for him now and understand how important so much of his advice is to young men and women.
This interview is amazingly done. The thing that really lifts me up the most about this interview is seeing Jordan Peterson genuinely smile and laugh.
Sick.
Yes. And also the respectful way Russel listens ... then asks questions to further understand; never aiming to catch his interviewee out but to further build trust. He's a gifted (and very well prepared) interviewer - which clearly creates connection with Jordan (as you said).
And cried also ☹️.
Yeah, you don't often see people interview him without an agenda to destroy him or try an push a right wing agenda onto his narrative.
@@JenBroadley great comments Jennifer. it clearly helps that russell clearly got a lot from his books. so talking and interviewing from "inside" jp's work.
When Dr Peterson talks about his struggle he always starts to cry. A man whos been through it all but strong enough to help the rest of us.
Chiron the wouneed healet. No one can heal others until they have healed themselves
I dont think healing can ever be done.All of us has gone through tremendous problems and at any moment our anger can come out.We better find out something to cling on a hope to strive for.Like Dr Peterson hope to convey his message of view of world and way of living meaningfully
He used to act like a bully and now cries with self pity but disguises it as a kind of heroic struggle.
He gave all sorts of advice which he didn't apply to himself.
He blames his addiction on his wife's cancer.
Shameful.
He knows a lot of his fanbase are getting his message as a reinforcing of their beliefs including incels and racists.
He may deny it but doesn't totally discourage it because he is first and foremost a careerist.
Clever man though.
@@luckydave328 Show me one clip where he acted like a bully. Just one. I'll wait.
His advice is built around trying to be the best version of yourself. He's a man who has literally pulled many struggling dissillusioned people out of despair, including myself. I'd say he's very much TRYING to be the best version of himself and his acedemic and publishing success and the positive improvements his ideas have made on other people's lives reflects that. He's not perfect, he's fallible. I don't agree with everything he's ever said on every subject, and he's stumbled and fallen and picked himself up again after battling his own demons - He's just human.
His addiction was to drugs that he was prescribed - and his daughter has extensively covered this. Try watching some of Mikaela's podcasts for a real insight. For you to literally strawman that he somehow "blames" his wife for his addiction is utterly disgusting on your part. Hang your head in shame.
@@luckydave328 YOU SAID IT RIGHT. That's what i am saying all along. A pure narcissistic psycho. I was on his side a few years ago but man. This dude has tramsformed into a cry baby safeguarded by online presence and cult like tours. No more slaying the dragon.. more like slaying the wallet..
My respect for Russell has grown exponentially because he was brave enough to talk to Jordan, many people will hate him for it.
Think about how ridiculous that is for a moment. Very sad times we live in
then at least russel is hated by the people of no consequence.....these people dont hate russel or Jordan, they hate themselves thats why they reject the truth's that jordan speaks because it shines a light on their own self destructive nature.
The huge gamble and fallacy the far left have ridden on is this idea that JP was a man of the right. The reason why JP resonates and was and continues to be important is actually that his message is against extremism, both right and left. Therefore if he is against the far left, they see an enemy, and they spent years trying to drag his name into the dirt.
He embodies both a liberal and empirical way of approaching issues and a strong sense of traditional values which (I'll use academic like jargon here) attract a positive message towards religious thinking and the positivity of masculinity.
"When I saw Jordan Peterson I realised that America just needs a Dad"
@@jimmillward3505 yeah, can't just be that he hates trans people or anything, can't be anything to do with that.
@@drunkenwoodelf he doesn’t hate trans people at all. Do some research instead just talking shit and getting your facts from Twitter.
Really impressed with how Russell conducted the interview. Lovey to see Jordan able to sit down, chat and open up.
It's really nice to see Jordan able to talk without being constantly on his guard. Kudos to this interviewer for actually interviewing Jordan and drawing out interesting answers from him. Skilled journalism.
ABSOLUTELY! It’s really annoying when interviewers are combative as if THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.. Jordan is right most of the time but he’s not the most intelligent person on the planet which I discovered watching the religion debate with some dude that had Peterson on the ropes for most of the debate.. and petersons response to some topics were disappointing because I thought he was smarter than that.. But, I agree with you 100%!
@@hellabella8295 He's not even right most of the time, his contributions to his relevant field is in alcohol addiction and a few not worth anything papers on personality. Because he's a doctor you just defer to and trust his every word, Sam Harris, matt dillahunty. Just two names who when they hold Jordan to account for his word salad he gets amazingly upset. Says it all.
@@Paulstrickland01 Sure, Peewee. Hush and go help Mommy with dinner.
@@Lochias333 Poor little joshy, triggered by attacks of facts against daddy Peterson. Your use of the word mommy tells me you spent an age under her skirt begging for a daddy until Jordan came along and you started going slurp slurp feed me Jordan. 😂😙😂😂 cry some more for me. 😘😘🤪🤪🤪
Strangely, this skilled journalism is coming from a Comedian, rather than someone who's job it is to provide a quality interview, which to me is all the more impressive
what I took away from this interview is that even a fully skilled psychologist, who learned how the minds of people usually work, can fall into the abyss.
And I am so happy that he beat the darkness. It is always a rocky road to get back. That means, for everyone who is struggling out there, keep going. Survive a day at a time. Sort your mind out. Put all the pieces in your mind together and watch the sun eventually rise again.
Mental health is a serious thing and too many people think, they are alone with their struggle. No, you are not. Someone was there before you, someone is right there like you and someone has passed that point. Either on a good or bad note. But you can make it out of it. Open up, talk to someone you trust, get back up. Life is tough. But you can make it. You need to be sick and tired of the suffering and fight it. YOU CAN MAKE IT.
This comment hit different. Thank you
Yes, doctors do get sick as well. Nobody is immune to depression, what counts is getting up
Well said.
@Brigada
Fighting a depression too. Once a while I look at some videos that involves Dokter Peterson. But this one overwhelmed me. Felt alot of empathy and respect for both because of them being honest and themselves.
Awesome comment mate
This was a really heartfelt interview. You did a fantastic job, Russell.
Taskmaster brought me here.
@@tpilot_error404 hahaha me too: what is this primitive community called? district 12? back to basic as in build back better? the people on the right in small communities called districts, the people on the left the freaky city audience and there is the global elite's mmmmmm sound to me a lot like ...... ..... free mason 33 russel! right and left elite's don"t exist, they work together towards the same goal! there are only left and right people that is the divide!
what is this primitive community called? district 12? back to basic as in build back better? the people on the right in small communities called districts, the people on the left the freaky city audience and there is the global elite's mmmmmm sound to me a lot like ...... ..... free mason 33 russel! right and left elite's don"t exist, they work together towards the same goal! there are only left and right people that is the divide!
It was very good. Too many people are more concerned about getting that "Gotcha" moment.
This is actually quite important for Russell of all people to do, given his audience. Well done. I don't agree with this man on all points, but hearing what he has to say gives me a better understanding and gets me out of my potential echo chamber.
Thank you. I was coming here to comment that. Although I recognise the dangers of echo chambers, humans are naturally drawn to them and find that outside of echo chambers can be ‘uncomfortable’ which is weird when you consider that if you were confident in your beliefs, scrutiny shouldn’t make you tremor.
Exactly my approach. Having different opinions and hearing different arguments are the only way to broaden your view on the world, but for many people it is difficult to break out of their own bubble because they don't even know they are in one. Peterson has controversial views, and I disagree with his opinions more often than that I agree with them, but that has nothing to do with him as a person. I don't know him... I can't judge his person. I can only judge his opinions and his actions, but independent from the person.
The problem is not difference of opinions but is related with the fact that some people are acting on those views and trying to destroy the personal freedom or take individuals rights of certain groups of individuals going from attacking women's rights to LGBTQ.
When the gun is in your face, tell us about your lofty ideals.
@@BuildinWings who has a gun in your face? That kind of violent rhetoric is never appropriate.
lovely to see russel and jordon so relaxed and so informal. thats the difference between a comedian who knows how to interview andn a normal interviewer, so real heartwrenching questions too. was a good watch.
Brilliant interview by Russell. He asked all the right questions and got Jordan to really open up. I don't think I've ever watched him in a better interview.
check out the ones with theo von
... and Russel Brand, and Joe Rogan. All great interviews
Couldn't agree more. Perfect questions and a great interview style.
Same. I don't think he is funny as a standup comedian, but he seems like he could be a very good interviewer and independent journalist.
This was a great interview and I was impressed by Russel's interviewing skills, digging deep in a short time, asking good questions without being confrontational and creating an atmosphere of openness and warmth, really wonderful.
They seemed to have already established rapport, Jordan Peterson showed a warmth right off the bat that suggests to me that they've been talking prior to this interview. Of course, it could also just be his standard mode of being, or just how he felt in that moment, but I think in this case, there's something extra there in my opinion.
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@@JTProductions3 lol not in the way you're thinking. it's fine. dummy
I have seen Russel Howard ask 5 year old's tougher questions. I am sorry but this was not an interview this was paid advertisement.
@@HeSaidThatHerGyatWasSoOhio Hmm. What do you mean exactly? What would you hope to get out of the interview by hearing those "tougher questions" (and presumably the answers to them), and could you give an example of such questions? Cheers.
Mr Peterson looks like he’s got his light back, just when we needed him the most. What an amazingly emotive interview and a very pleasant surprise.
"We tried to live as if life was still possible" the ability to find the strength to do that is surely immeasurable.
Even with drugs he didn't have the strength to do it... it seems
@@stevegreen243 Great TED talk
If only journalists conducted interviews in such a compelling way as this. Fantastic dialogue.
Well done Russell, this was important. You’ve done the right thing standing up for honesty and not just blind rage.
the same rage that shows on the lobster prophets face when he's asked about one of his lies? xD yeah right, pretend he looks calm
This interview helped me to accept and integrate Jordan Peterson's philosophical views. I was put off by the rumours and second or third hand characterizations about him. I'm gladly corrected and enlarged by this new information. Save our children from click bait mind death.
Right?! Thank you, brother! I have held on to a book of his for one of my closest friends who is also going through a GRUELING time, just because I know they have likely only heard the lie, and I don't want to risk exacerbating their pain in any way.
Do your own research. Its a great rule of thumb.
“Click bait mind death” sounds like a fantastic death metal band!
That makes me really happy to hear that.
Please, do what you can to convince those second and third party people that they've misjudged him. If you watch and read what he has to say, it is immensely clear that his main message is that everyone has the potential to do something amazing, and there's nothing more worthwhile than the pursuit of that. He's only controversial if you want to imagine that he is.
Well unless you're far left or far right of course, then everything he says will be controversial to you. Because he's pretty adamant that you should take as much personal responsibility for the problems in your life as possible, and that's not really what radicals do.
Yeah he's a good egg
It really amazes me how any person, woman, or man...could look at this man crying genuine tears and think that is weakness. I think he is so strong...even if he doesn't think so himself. He's been through hell and came back as a survivor.
I don't think crying is representative of weakness, but in his case it surely is. How come you people all follow this devout liar? He's made a career off lying about Bill-C16 and fearmongering and people still believe the things he has to say? He's quick to judge people and tell them to clean their room when evidenced with good points, meanwhile his life is more in ruins than the people he critizises. He's a genuinely sad and pathetic man and I feel sorry for him. Yes his tears were real - that doesn't mean much however. Even killers can cry.
@@MonkeyDIvan have you read his books? Or just drafted a opinion based clips, memes you saw on your tube shorts or tik tok?
@@MonkeyDIvan His life is in ruins, nice to see the compassion there, his family suffer from depression, his wife was diagnosed with terminal cancer and was told she had a limited time left, he was given pills to help cope with the stress, and became addicted to them and almost died getting off them, regardless of what you think about his politics hes a human being
Well people like Jordan Peterson bully trans and gay people and hurt them and make their lives a misery. He is not a good person.
Peterson is famous for crying on camera. He does that to create emotional responses in you mindless drones. And you fall for it like absolute suckers xD
Jordan saved my life ….
Thanks Jordan
And to anyone out there dealing with stuff.
You will get through it
I don’t know Russell well, but this interview made me respect him a lot as an interviewer and a human. The questions about music and dancing with his wife were so lovely. I know most other interviewers would have just left it at Jordan’s teary point and moved on to something else, but Russell questioned further about it :’) I like where his attention was and how genuine this conversation felt.
he's oddly good at this.
Well said. I guess what was stand out was Russell’s agenda was to understand the person. Many others have a different agenda (often linked to some aspect of identity politics).
All of the edgy comedians were removed from the BBC around the time that Russell was brought in, for more puritanical comedy, if such a thing exists. I'd sort of assumed he was one of the woke comedians that have killed tv comedy in the UK, but then again, he doesn't give away his insightfulness in his comedy, only earnestness.
@@carbon1255 I was also pleasantly surprised to learn Russel Howard had apparently read a lot of Peterson's stuff. I never had any reason to dislike the guy, but I kinda assumed he'd not entertain such a "controversial" figure to be associated with him. Makes me happy.
Omg when he said they dance together I almost lost it he’s amazing bless them 🥺
Watching Jordan try and control his emotions when he speaks about his wife and her suffering really resonates with me. It's hard to really compose yourself when something horrible happens. It's mainly why I suffer in my own mind. Sometimes it's okay to blurt out, Jordan. You keep up the great work that you do and inspire young men all over the world. You're an absolute idol.
Nice one Mr Girthzilla
I wonder how his wife felt when he wrote in his book when he was strung out on barbs, eh? maybe you should have made your bed, eh?
@@gwynetharmour3341 ?
@Gwyneth Armour That’s pretty mean-spirited. Why would want to be a negative influence on the world? Evil is accumulative and it often starts with those being deliberately uncharitable.
@@gwynetharmour3341 You sound like a miserable person. I sincerely hope that you find peace and happiness.
I haven't liked Russell for years, but seeing how open he's being here, seeing him acting like a decent human being and not trying to twist every word and statement out of context, has given me a lot more respect for him. And dare say even opened me up to being a fan again. Subscribed!
I think RH is a rubbish comedian but I thought he handled this interview commendably. The problem with most of the comments on here are that they emanate from those who already have a pre fixed agenda, who hang their views on a Right or Left hook; without which they would have no independent thought. So they hear something JP says, and because it doesn't slot into their world view, they dismiss it.
@@toperic02 not just all that though I agree with you, there's "thought" leaders who have pre-subscribed narratives and responses to practically anything. And idiots on mass absorb them and belch them back out like they're dropping truth bombs. And they may even realise themselves that they're talking nonsense, but they've been given a formula that they think will silence someone, make that person appear bad while making them appear moral. And they also hope what they're saying will convince others who can't or won't think.
I used to like the terms zombies and sheep when it comes to those type of people, but NPCs really nails it. They're phantom mud slingers. Some think they're actually throwing mud. Others hope we don't notice their hands are empty
@@nicosmind3 Yep, binary thinking is prominent and the frightening thing about it is that not only can these simple folk now voice their non opinions anonymously through social media but they actually believe its their own thoughts.
Same really, but after watching this well done Russell, he and Jordan are great People :)
Out of interest, why do you not like Russell as a comedian?
Fantastic interview Russell. Was respectful to his pain. Actually teared up. Glad he is on the up now. 👍🏻
@@tocolitic echo chambers are dangerous
@@TS-hr7nv Agreed which is why I'm glad that these 2 talk about the importance of disagreement in a healthy society.
I have to admit that I've never really "got" Russell's comedy but he did a really great job here: perfect balance of letting JP speak, gentle probing and making his own points which were well thought through and eloquent.
@@CandyMan2001 nah I mean he pokes fun at left and right leaders so I don't think he's 'sold out' but his good news days were the best
@@GregoryMcStevens Personally disagree as someone who grew up on good news I feel like he's come into his element more within the past half decade or so, the idea he's sold out is silly, beyond a few questionable views on lgbt stuff that kind of opposes Russell's previous statements, I think Jordan peterson is knowledgeable on alot of things especially mental health wise, boiling people down to there worst moment or "take" is a product of a toxic Internet mentality in my opinion
really lovely to hear more about Jordan's personal life with his marriage, great interview Russell
Love Russel👌🏻
@@VentureHolly Hello. Could you let us know more about one of these "Previous comments"?
@@karenfaulkner5922 holding you accountable for your previous comment, what previous comments should he have held him accountable for?
It's a bit of revelation for me hearing Dr Peterson confess that when he was in the depths of depression he couldn't handle the sensory overload of music. I experienced this last year after a major life shock and I've been a DJ for over 25 years so for me it was a particularly alienating experience, especially given that none of my friends could relate. I was too emotionally and mentally exhausted and sensitive to hear anything that might trigger deep melancholy. Thank you for this video Russell. Superb stuff.
Same here, I wasn't able to listen to music at all!
Weirdly, the only music I could listen to after a major bereavement was the '69 Elvis comeback. Still don't really understand why. It didn't spoil it for me either, I can still happily listen to it. Perhaps it was the simplicity of it, there is nothing challenging about the songs or performance, it's pretty pure entertainment. Dunno.
Yes, it can be too over encompassing for your mind, especially when music speaks to you deeply, for me it sounds unbearably beautiful in a very harsh world if that makes sense
@@CJ-ft9yo completely
@@vanzahn I really hope you are doing well - you write so beautifully xx
Really appreciate having the balls to put this man in an interview, completely flying in the face of any hate you may receive as a result. Thank you
Ive only vaguely heard of JP, but Russell Howard is an absolute genius at interviewing ... the mixture of the precise observation, humility and humour that gets the best out of the interviewee, the interview with Greta Thunberg is really a classic.
Absolutely brilliant, human and real interaction. What a blessing to have witnessed this discussion.
This is massive for Russell to actually show the UK audience who Jordan Peterson really is.
I’ve followed Jordan’s work for years and his work changed my life in every single way for the better.
He pulled me out of a dark hole, and I genuinely believe his work should be on the NHS.
This interview is so underrated and truly captivating to see two people converse on a human level. Compared to JP other interviews this is amazing to see a more human side of JP and even Russell Howard. More of this. More respect for good journalism and being prepared to talk without bias but curiosity as well as insight into human physiology!
Jordan Beterson
Of course you enjoyed this. This was a complete piece of fluff. Not once did Russel bring up any of the batshit crazy ideas Peterson has.
I've always wondered what is the other way for humans to converse if not on a human level?
@James Williams There are none, the guy you're replying to knows it and repeats this crap ad infinitum like a good little tool
@@lunarwuffy5299 Stay mad furry
We need more conversations like this in the media, most people converse like this in the real world, lets see more of it on the screens.
One of the best conducted interviews I have ever watched. The amount of empathy and ability to listen and to pose the questions with such respect even facing a person that many people do not fancy. Great work and amazing to watch.
Watch more.
This is very well conducted.
Wtf are you on about.....
It was a total softball interview.
@@auralacruz2616 I couldnt even get through it, Russell is so uneducated and lacks common sense or actual opinions of his own on anything.
@@saturnista5510 well aren't you just proving to the world what was discussed.
Russel, i'm not going to pretend i'm your biggest fan, I watch your stuff every now and again. This interview with Jordan was amazing and your professionalism shone through. Thank you for this interview.
He loves his wife so much. With every video I've watched I think he's cried every time he talks about her. It's utterly beautiful xx
Didn't realise that Russell is such a fantastic interviewer. The respect between these 2 is obvious. So great the RH asks a question and then actually allows the interviewee answer. Definitely a career to fall back on if the old stand-up routine doesn't work out :-)
you mean the role of a drooling fanboi? Russell claimed to have read Petersons poorly written "books" and still missed the heaping helping of misogyny, missing citations for any of his generalized claims, the casual promotion of violence and the prescribed apathy in the face of society's problems?
@@kaivogel253 here's the snowflake socialist who can neither understand metaphors or comedy
@@kaivogel253 Tell em kai. His mentally ill male without a daddy fan base really do protect him like their father.
Fantastic way he established his bias towards him straight away instead of actually interviewing him
@@kaivogel253 what a fantastic way to wave a big red flag on yourself. Thanks for being the absolute example of what a Tyrant is. Sheesh, you made short work of it people just have to see this.
And the fact you sift through every comment in the section just to project yourself. Like, damn, give yourself some respect you don't have to reveal yourself to everyone. Lol.
He is unapologetically himself, in every moment, and unabashedly human in letting his emotions come and go as they please. I'm so happy he is feeling better. He is one person, that I have never met, that I genuinely wonder about weekly and hope he is happy and doing ok. So much to admire in Jordan, I want to be like him.
I wouldn’t aspire to be like him. Being a drug addict hooked on benzodiazepines because of panic attacks from an all-meat diet that you promoted to millions doesn’t sound like fun.
@@thl205 couldn't possibly have to do with his wife's cancer diagnosis
@@thl205 Who would you like to aspire to be?
@@cam0875 I think the concept of modelling oneself on a “hero” is outdated. Human beings are complex, with good and bad features. The creation of “hero myths” is often very imaginative, and often those very heroes would shy away from fans trying to emulating, preferring instead that people do some learning and develop their own moral code.
@@thl205 Are you saying that you are your own inspiration? I'm just not sure if you answered my question or not.
The way he speaks about his wife, you can tell just how deep his love for her runs. I absolutely adore Jordan Peterson, he reminds me very much of my husband. What an absolutely brilliant interview, touching on things I never knew before such as him liking the band Arcade Fire. Jordan Peterson is one of those very rare types of people, and we need more people like him in the world.
what? hateful bigots?
@@neonwired4978 For context, I sit on the left of politics. But Jordan Peterson isn't a hateful bigot. He's a person with different views to you and you don't like it. If anything, you're being hateful and a bigot here.
@@DeanoMac29 no, he is a hateful bigot, he has persistently proven his prejudices and lies time and time again. This isn't in question. The only people defending him are his fellow bigots. What you describe is literally the fallacy of tolerance.
@@neonwired4978 you ok?
@@neonwired4978 On top of asking "How?", I should add that even if you held certain information regarding said prejudices and lies, other people may not, and thus in defending them they are not necessarily "fellow bigots". You're assuming that others have the same knowledge of him that you do. Unless of course you were being hyperbolic about the "only" people defending him being fellow bigots
I would whittle down the quote to "You can agree with someone's opinion, without agreeing with all of their opinions".
The description of his depression was very accurate - you forget that there is enjoyment and contentment in the mundane things in life. It's tempting to think you need big 'wow' factors to get out of it, but in reality you need to get back to enjoying a simple cup of tea or a walk with a pet, or the joy of a great TV show.
A pretty good example of that quote is Piers Morgan. He's a colossal twat, but there was a period of time during the pandemic when he was more or less the only interviewer unwilling to put up with the bullshit of the government ministers he was interviewing, and their inability to answer questions asked of them. He wouldn't let them get away with it, so while he is a twat, on those occasions, he was a twat pointed in what many would consider to be the correct direction.
@@georgercop the village idiot can’t be wrong 100% of the time. He’s at least a part of the village to some degree
@@DavidAKJohnson As much as I strongly disagree with Piers on some things, he is far from being termed as a village idiot... given the wealth and utter fame he has accumulated.
how refreshing to see two men engaged in an exploratory conversation with mutual respect and appreciation. rh .... im impressed.
Great interview. I’ve always found Peterson to be a sincere guy with a positive message. It baffles me that some people see him as hateful, toxic etc but I suppose he’s right - it’s all projection.
I think he gets away with saying that in this interview, he consistently misrepresents hot button topics and he either does so deliberately or doesn't really understand what's at stake (which might even be worse).
Behind his headline positive messages there's often some dubious subtext or even falsehood that he glosses over. I used to like him but after a while those added up for me and ever since i've found him to be a disingenuous person clinging onto 'cancel culture' for relevancy.
I wouldnt take this interview as a necessarily entirely accurate depiction of him, there are genuine reasons as to why he is disliked
Ideologues find it difficult to change their opinions no matter what evidence is presented to them. They are forced to question their dogmatic views and this difficult, since so much of their persona is built on them.
He is a typical individualist conservative like thatcher. He literally writes books getting people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. As a core message that IS good. And of course you can easily counter that with the left wing argument that there are structural issues that need to be resolved first. Neither argument is right it is a mix of the two and it goes to show how far society has been polarised that his view is so divisive.
@@yupyupyup732 What claims has he made that add up to you believing he acts in bad faith?
I ask just because I've heared a lot of people saying that he misrepresents issues but when I actually hear what they think his takes are, I usually find some missunderstangs of what he is actually saying.
I'm not generally a fan of Russell's stand up, but this was a great interview. Solid heartfelt questions where he actually listened to the prior answer (which is rare in interviewers these days). Good stuff!
Why is it you feel the need to say something as shitty as your opinion on his standup before you praised this video? It's such a toxic statement you pass off as a compliment
@@GeorgeZacharopoulos Probably as a qualifier to show that he isn't some zealot that blindly loves everything RH does. Also it's not shitty to say that you're not a fan of a person's work
@@NameName-wf7cb no that's total crap. It isn't like he watched a comedy clip and said oh normally I'm not into your comedy but this clip has proven otherwise.
It's a completely different setting, RH's material is totally irrelevant to this interview.
This is just knocking down with one hand to build with the other.
Just pay the compliment without having to criticize at the same time.
It's like telling a model who is also a doctor that "I don't normally find you attractive but well done on this diagnosis".
@Bluescore De'La'vieyeah well the notion is too subtle for you to get it, especially if you never created anything in your life
..he spoke, only when he needed to and that is a bit of skill, I`m a counsellor (person centred) and I still learnt something from this.
Of all the Jordan Peterson interviews I'v seen, this has to be one of the best. Big fan of both these, guys - what a joy to watch, could have watched them talk for an hour or two.
It’s so heartwarming to see Dr Peterson’s real emotions and passion for subjects he talks about, what a man!
These two men talk so much sense and with heartfelt honesty,I'm such an admirer of both of them
I've watched a lot of JP's interviews, and he never ceases to amaze me. What an incredible person!
It's a beautiful thing when two people actually talk to each other and exchange ideas. So often one or the other will forcibly impose their views and block any attempt at genuine dialogue. I like Russell Howard when he fills the centre ground and doesn't lean to far left, this was a good interview especially as Jordan Peterson opened up about himself and got very emotional. Having been where he has and still struggling to find some happiness and purpose it gives me a lot of hope to see him working again.
to be so fucking blind to all the hypocrisy that comes as a trademark of Peterson is saddening. Good job Russell on being indoctrinated by this snakeoil salesman for incels with daddy issues.
@@kaivogel253 not a fan of Mr Peterson then.
@@kaivogel253 You are a sad human being. Just because you disagree politically, just because you don't agree with his views, you call someone else names to dehumanize this person. You saw his emotions, you saw his trauma, but just because of your views you think of him as less than human. You are sad. I have not seen many lefties act like you and to increase my hope in humanity, I hope I never see people like you ever again.
@@kaivogel253 If you had bothered to listen, Mr Peterson actually said that free speech and listening to other opinions is the way to learn that you may not be as right about everything as you think. Try maybe listening to someone without pre conceived ideas about what you think they are going to say, you may not agree with everything, but I would be amazed if their ideas did not at least give you pause for thought about your own beliefs on how the world works. Everything is grey and not black and white, and it is OK to have sympathies with some of the ideas of those you generally disagree with.
@@kaivogel253 you should really try to see peterson's perspective a little more. More precisley when he speaks about the buffon and the tyrant. You might see yourself in one of those characters...
Thank you Russel. This was a good, respectful interview. We desperately need more interviews like this. These days interviews are about the drama because drama sells. But journalistic integrity is so important. And you bring it into the spotlight again. Thank you.
The best sort of interviewer, he listens and doesn't push his own opinion, an excellent interview.A lot of jounalists could learn from this.
@@annehudson3210 he is a drooling fanboy who might have read but missed the towering mountain of red flags that come with Peterson's bullshit ideology (that also comes free of any citations whatsoever ^^)
@@kaivogel253 Could you please specify what some of those red flags are?
@@percepctiveproductions9731 that's easy: what about the time he complained that society deemed it wrong if he punched a woman: ruclips.net/video/dL3Hrwg3A3w/видео.html and that it's important for civilization that a threat for physical violence exists in any argument.
and in this one ruclips.net/video/XBu6xI1iUM0/видео.html he calls the mass murder of at least 40.000 helpless handicapped people by the nazis "merciful". With no other explanation. This monstrous atrocity is mentioned by him in the context of "cleaning up". What a disgusting repetition of nazi propaganda. And these are just two examples. There is so much more.
@Scott Donnelly he complained that society deemed it wrong if he punched a woman: ruclips.net/video/dL3Hrwg3A3w/видео.html and that it's important for civilization that a threat for physical violence exists in any argument.
and in this one ruclips.net/video/XBu6xI1iUM0/видео.html he calls the mass murder of at least 40.000 helpless handicapped people by the nazis "merciful". With no other explanation. This monstrous atrocity is mentioned by him in the context of "cleaning up". What a disgusting repetition of nazi propaganda. And these are just two examples. There is so much more. Oh and never forget he lied from the start about Bill C16 and NEVER challenged it as a citizen, which would be his right xD he's just keeping it up so he can create a fake outrage about it. Oh and he tried to sue two professors who critized him in private xD WHILE HE PRETENDS TO BE ABOUT FREE SPEECH. BUT HE CAN'T TAKE IT IF SOMEBODY CRITICIZES HIM xD
What a man.. wow. "You need something meaningful to set against suffering"
What he said about viewing yourself on the outside, you can eventually find something that's curative. That's so hopeful.
That really resonated with me.. everyone's journey is different and ultimately it's what we take from our trials, our battles and challenges, what we learn from them and use as tools in life going forward.
So glad to see someone as mainstream as Russell Howard giving Dr Peterson a fair portrayal.
He has been misunderstood, misquoted and demonized in the press for years 🖖🏼
Didn't a Marvel writer use him as indirect inspiration for Red Skull?
@@fallenhero4550 Yup, portrayed him as the leader of super Nazis. Literally disgusting...
I had been following JP lectures well before he ever got thrust into the political spotlight. At that time I was wasting away unemployed, unhealthy, horrible habits but I enjoyed watching his uni lectures because I had a psych undergrad degree, albeit one I couldn't use because I was going nowhere in life.
Im 100% not saying it's because of him. I'm not that dramatic, but in those past 5 years I turned my life around. I got jobs. I graduated with a 3.96 GPA Masters degree from the same school I had gotten a 2.1 GPA bachelor's just 5 year's prior. I've presented at national conferences, I went from someone with no self respect to somehow having the respect of others and am now in doctoral school for clinical psych.
Sometimes I still have no idea how it happened. I was dead in the water. I was blessed for another chance at life. Blessed my family & friends didn't turn on me when I did things that would have warranted that.
Again it's certainly not watching his lectures that fixed me. Don't get me wrong. But this man along many other men & women have taught me certain lessons that pushed me forward. It's amazing to see what this guy has been through and how he continues on. I think somehow that's what I had been trying to do these past 5 years too. At 25 I was a dead beat, but at 31 revitalized. I hope we can all find a purpose to move forward and I hope I can continue following mine. Respect to the doc.
That's great to hear man, thanks for sharing. Myself and many others I'm sure have gone through a similar process....I'm not where I want to be yet but I'm finally on the right track. Good luck with your career, I'm sure you'll be helping many people on their path.
Hate to break it to you, but if you were that influenced by Petersen and couldn't figure it out on your own....... I doubt many people actually have respect for you.
@@snakers716 😉
@@morpheus7144 Thank you. We're all still works in progress. I hope nothing but best with you as well.
@Susan P. Gottardi Thank you for reading & sharing your sentiment. I appreciate it.
Jordan looks better than ever, glad to see him doing so well.
I feel this is an honest interview. Hasn’t been edited, thank you so much for putting this out there!
Feels, major feels. Anyone that has been through life threatening depression can see the realness in this guy, no matter if you agree or not with his views, you cannot deny how raw and real he remains from day 1.
depression doesn't give you a get-out-of-jail-free card for inciting a disinformation campaign that spreads hatred against women and minorities. He is an absolue disgrace and should have lost his license decades ago.
it is not his views, he talks about what is pretty common in broad academic world
he just had balls to say it. others like me are just scared to be ousted and rejected by society if we speak up. so we keep quiet.
THAT was a powerful interview. Bloody hell. Russel, please do more like this. You handled the pace and content and tone with such finesse. You are very, very good at it. I would have loved to have seen the 30 minute version.
I’ve never really rated Russell but this interview has made me see him very differently. His interview style and willingness to show Jordan in his truest form is very telling. You can see that in turn Jordan is very emotive and personable in his demeanour. Well done both!
I was thinking about this exact thing. A few years back on his Good News show his jokes were very similar to many other left leaning comedy news shows but seeing him on other panel shows, I always felt like he was a sensible person somewhere in the middle.
I guess he represents the classical liberal majority who had been going along with the extreme left's categorization of people like Jordan Peterson, (maybe because they didn't have the time to research everyone on their own) but perhaps, dare I say, maybe they've started to get wise and think for themselves.
To get a man on any level to show emotion in an interview is a high level of comfort. Russell did an incredible job with this interview. More intelligent interviews like this would be amazing
Russell starting stuttering "C...C...C" and seemed really uncomfortable when JP started crying. An interesting interview with keen, clear observations and comments made by Russell Howard and Jordan Peterson.
I think this interview was just as much therapy for Jordan as it was a good interview. Very powerful! Well done Russell!
narcissists don't respond well to therapy
@@kaivogel253 what makes him a narcissist, describe the traits
He is a genius and I am glad to have lived my life with his voice in my ears. Telling me that I’m not crazy, that I’m not alone in this crazy world. Long live this legend
My friend, couldn’t of put it better myself. He is a man that is so important to mannkind right now and I don’t think we’ll realise it until he’s gone.
I just want to say as someone going through extreme circumstances at the moment, and seeing this uploaded 6 days ago, is extremely helpful. Recently I’ve looked up to Jordan Peterson for the longest, and this video proves to us that from the best to worst of circumstances, we’re all human and experience pain. I hope I go into psychology and learn much more in that field
Stay strong, fellow human 🤍
I'm used to seeing him debating all the time, it's so nice to see him in a discussion where both sides agree and he can talk more about himself. No guard or verbal strategy needed. I Really like him, brought a tear to the eye. All the best to them both
It is tough to mourn a loving connection, good the hear that there is still yet time for J.P to share quality moments with his wife. His exploration of life and of faith is also interesting and insightful. May God be with him and his family providing strength and love.
I never expected someone like Jordan on the show, but I'm really happy about it. Probably one of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen
Wow, what an emotional interview... its awesome to see him open up so much.
People that are fooled into thinking he's a wolf in sheep's clothing need to really start challenging themselves more. This guy has a lot of wisdom and insight to share with the world.
yes. It's the others who are all wrong. You remember that interview in which Peterson said that during one of his insane diets he drank some cider, had a bad reaction to it and stayed awake for 25 days? :) You know you can google how long the longest recorded period of insomnia lasted. Go ahead :) you're not gonna like what you find.
@@kaivogel253 That's cause he wasn't being literal. He was being hyperbolic.
@@rayansaroar9799 oh so that's what you're calling lying now :) what a nice worldview you must have. Just declare everything the way you want. So why do you hate trans people again? ;)
@@kaivogel253 Hi Kai. I hope you are well today. Can I ask you why you believe there is no possibility that Mr Peterson made a throw-away hyperbolic comment? Everyone knows that it is impossible, or at least very, very unlikely that we could stay awake for that amount of time; or is it?
So, either a) he did engage in hyperbolics or b) he did stay away for 25 days or c) he lied about it for no apparent reason. Why would he lie about something like this?
And then you mention the real reason for your criticism, that you accuse someone of hating trans people. And you accuse the commenter of this - totally out of the blue- because he suggested that that JP was being hyperbolic. How on earth did you jump from JP "lying" to that. I suspect that unfortunately you have a biased agenda. And if, indirectly, you were accusing JP of this, then I suggest you need to watch much more of his videos where many times he clearly states that he has no issue with trans people, or any other grouping for that matter. I take it that you are not trans yourself but that you are taking offence on their behalf?
@@kaivogel253 his basic message is learn to be in control of your life. What is your problem with that?
I love Jordan B. Peterson and loved how Howard made him smile, laugh and cry. Two legends in an interview!
russel is not a legend ,
neither are lol. Russell is a fair character who is very much milktoast whereas Peterson is neither here nor their and is just another tv talking head.
@@t.least.he.is.honest feel better now?
Russell is more likely one if these people that supports everything Jordan is against
@@paulhornsey-pennell1931 o9oh look a clever remark
Being grateful for mundane normality... oh yeah, I've been in that situation where boring would have been a blessing.
I think JP has shown a lot of people how to express their emotions without compromising their intellect and merging those aspects of a logical conversation with heartfelt transparency.
Great stuff.
Grateful for Adderall. Sigmund Freud only had cocaine, the poor beggar
Peterson spends a lot of his time preaching to embrace violence, to be a monster and so on, needing to be the most powerful etc. He is nothing but a slippery slope for empty-headed boys with daddy deficiency who need somebody to explain to them why they are losers and whose fault everything is (surprise surprise it's the women)
@@kaivogel253 You're completely misinterpreting everything the guy says and are angry due to your own ignorance. That's not Dr. Peterson's fault. Once you've had positive influence on millions of people, then you'll have a position to be taken seriously. Until then, you're a sad, impotent person on the internet desperately trying to punch up. You're just whiffing.
Fix your life.
@@kaivogel253 slippery slope fallacy? Not sure you have fully understood the general thrust of JBPs message...
@@pgl79 I doubt he'd be thrusting anything with all that erectile dysfunction that makes him so damn angry xD
Well done Russell, letting this great man just be, no tricks
Wank. Absolute.wank.
@James Coleman I’m a fan and this is an opinion. If you disagree, fine
I've been listening to JP for a few years and absolutely adore him. He's a very well educated and intelligent human being. I can listen to him for hours.
Can't listen to that kermit voice for more than 2 minutes. Ear-grating stuff.
@@EnclosedPoolArea then you should read his books regardless of your view on his points and opinions, that's how you learn and gain knowledge.
@@EnclosedPoolArea Ironically, that makes you sound a bit of a Muppet. If you have only given him 2 minutes, you will have missed out on learning from one of the most enlightened people of our time. Maybe you should break out from your enclosed pool area and be more receptive to the content of what people say, rather than discriminating on the basis of how they sound? yaaaay
@@MrHammoreds "One of the most enlightened people of our time"? Wow. Who are the other ones? Deepak Chopra? Eckhart Tolle?
@@steven5054 You have a very narrow-minded conception of what the term "enlightened" means. Phil doesn't mean that Jordan has some supreme metaphysical knowledge of reality; rather, that his knowledge, acquired through years of first-hand experience and learning, of what it means to be a decent human, how to overcome suffering, etc. - more existential themes - are what make JP as great as he is
Loved this, always felt RH had some depth to him, this proves it to me. Seeing JP comfortable, laughing, relaxed was a lovely thing to behold. Shed some tears at this one.
Yeah, for me I don't find Russel very funny but when he does stuff like this I have a lot of respect for him.
I loved this. Whether you agree with Peterson's beliefs or not, this interview is important for helping us see him as more than just an ideology. Many interviewers have seen him as a 'problem' or a 'puzzle' to crack instead of trying to understand and engage with what he says. As a comedian, Russell understands (i think) that there's a difficulty to judge whether something may be seen as offensive or not and that means he has had to think about subjects enough to understand multiple perspectives.
Honestly, this reminded me of John Stewart's interviewing style and it makes me very happy to see someone else get even close to that level of unbiased inquisitive questioning.
Well done Russell, I'd love to see a much longer interview with the two of you.
What both people hostile and sympathetic to JP don't understand, is that he does NOTHING ground-breaking or does not speak anything that ISN'T obvious - well, wasn't obvious as much as generation ago.
@@piotrd.4850 That may well be correct, but I think it undeniable that he is able (for the most part) to put across ideas in an engaging and easy to absorb manner. This in itself has value.
@@piotrd.4850 Something being extremely meaningful and impactful doesn't mean it is ground-breaking. There's no point introducing ideas that are way out of the realm of most people if your goal is to improve people's lives.
@@piotrd.4850 Obvious mixed in with common sense. Unfortunately most people just say what others want to hear for a quick thumbs up or a like..
That suit is stella.
nice facade for the nothing inside it.
Jordan peterson is a much needed voice in our time. His ideas, passion and commitment to the truth are fundamental requirement right now
they are fundamental if one is already braindead. He has nothing constructive to offer, he endorses violence, preaches hate against women and lies every other sentence. Pathetic to fall for a conman like him and larp him up as a prophet of some sort.
I never say stuff like this but every detail in this video is calculated, the lighting on host: brighter and warmer, on the guest: cooler and less intense, less contrast but dull. the framing for the host: wider and he is placed on the thirds, guest in intense moments: dead center and much tighter framing.
Everything is meticulously planned and perfectly executed. Well done
From 10:35 onwards, I love how Russell and Jordan Peterson are talking about comedians and artists being on the boundaries, and yet, here is Russell, a comedian, conducting one of the most normal, thoughtful and unoppressive interviews with Dr Peterson I've ever seen, where you get to see Peterson as a person and not just a figure in the media. Far better than most other interviews on major television channels.
It's great to see interviews like this. And its also great to see a generally left-leaning and a right-leaning figure have a civilised conversation in which they don't feel the need to attack each other.
JP isnt right leaning - just because he's not 'your' politics doesn't mean he's on the other end of the spectrum. It's worth really listening to and reading what this man says.
@@mpenton1 actually…he is generally slightly conservative, even though he has said he prefers not to talk about politics, but is forced to do so. The man’s a psychologist, not a politician, I know. And it is actually my side of politics, I’m centre-right (albeit with some certain left-wing sympathies regarding specific topics). I tend to agree with Jordan on many things, and he’s always interesting to listen to. I think you just misinterpreted my comment. For what it’s worth, I absolutely agree with you.
@@CVHFitness he is not slightly conservative, he is a christian fundamentalist, who endorses violence, spreads nazi propaganda myths and recently he made two videos misrepresenting both anti-racism and anti-fascism. He is a fascist through and through. Just check how often he weaves anecdotes about his idol Adolf Hitler into his talks.
@@mpenton1 Yeah it isn't actually, Jordan wants to have his cake and eat it all at once, he wants to be everything of something and nothing.
I know he’s controversial and I honestly have not followed his work one way or another. But I relate to his love and loss. I have been through the same experience with my wife of 35 years but without the happy ending. She went so fast. The last days every kiss could be the last kiss - until it was. I has taken me. Over six years later I am still triggered to cry (like he was here) at unpredictable inappropriate times. You can’t predict what will strike that nerve. Happiness is a memory but you learn to go through the pantomime of life on impulse not choice. No kids just US. Now just me.
The pain of loss is an open wound that does not heal; it’s too deep - eternally raw. But you learn to cope and function within the pain, like any other physical handicap, I guess. I lost our cat of 16 years only months after my wife. That finished me for quite some time. Like he said, I often muster the capacity to connect with the gratitude for life itself. My life now is only functional - but at least I CAN function, so there’s that. I drifted through the 1st Christmas but the 2nd put me in the psych ward for 10 days. The 7th is looming like a roiling fire on the horizon. I DREAD it each year.
The only thing keeping me going is MY CATS - 3 of them. It took me three years to even consider have anything living (including plants) in my life again. Without fail, they literally make me laugh every day. Their presents gives me so much moment to moment joy. Each one of them special in their own unique way. I am now at an age where every decision becomes a lifetime choice simply isn’t enough time left to change your mind and do something else. Money and time are in a race to see which will be the first to cross the finish line. With any luck they will outlive me - I could cope with another loss. And so I embrace each day with them and my memories. In my dreams she is often with me. It’s like she was gone and yet she’s back and we talk about how we will somehow explain this joyous miracle to our friends. And then I wake - the joy fades like a reverse Polaroid leaving me paralyzed by my inescapable reality. But those furry loving beacons of light give me the reason to meet another day - they keep me going for one more day.
My heart goes out to anyone who has experienced this depth of grief. I hope you find your beacon to light your path through this unending night.
You have a big heart, keep it open, you'll never replace your lost wife and you'll cherish her memory for the rest of your days but you have to keep your heart open.
Keep it up buddy
Your writing is beautiful and your emotions unhidden. Thank you for sharing and I hope you are doing well
Even when you wake up from a beautiful dream, and devastated by the fading joy as your mind clears up, know that there is always more dreams to come. And who are we to say that dreams are any less true than reality? I have this version of dreams, too. They come back a lot, I can assure you.
No he isn't controversial.
Once in every ten million or so RUclips comments, there's a beautiful one like this. I hope one day that the rolling fire slows, settles, and eventually warms you. And your cats. 🐈
I Love Jordan Peterson. He speaks from the heart.....and speaks TRUTH. It terrifies people, to confront TRUTH. Example......an alcoholic, who says he doesn't have a drink problem. Or the same for a drug taker, who screwing up his health or Life. Great video Russel
What an extraordinary interview. The bravery of Jordan to expose himself like this was phenomenal Well done Russell Howard.
there is no bravery in lying and preaching hate against people who have nothing to do with you.
@@kaivogel253 wow, Jordan really got you out here rage spamming the comments lmfao.
@@kaivogel253 STOP TROLLING GO AWAY
@@michelemichele7178 sorry these tears are too delicious :)
@@kaivogel253 🤨🤨🤨Huh????
Russell demonstrating just how intellectual comedians are, by asking simple, coherent questions and listening to but not challenging the answers.
To be a good comedian you have to be relateable and so are observant.
"Take the experimental gene therapy or else you are an idiot" he seems like a smart guy
Howard knew his mainstream 'leftie' beliefs would have been destroyed and so effectively submitted to Peterson by not challenging any of his views. Very cowardly.
@@agt155 so he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't? Or maybe you just hate the guy....
@@agt155 Many "mainstream leftie" beliefs are also held by Peterson. There are positive aspects on both sides of the political spectrum, to berate one so childishly is to deprive yourself of any benefits they could provide you with. People never seem to realise that people with different political views still ultimately want the same things you do, just believe the way to achieving them is by a different style of government to what you want.
It's really nice to see him this vulnerable. It makes me feel less distant from his advice. I definitely sympathize with happiness not being an option sometimes.
One of the most engaging Jordan Peterson interviews i've watched! By Russell Howard, no less! I still miss Good News from time to time.