Why not start your trucks further back, this track is tiny for any type of drag racing as evidence by your constant panic stops and running into the grass......
John Smith from recent memory their last long term tests were Silverado trail boss ram rebel and Nissan Frontier they did recently pick up a f250. So I wouldn’t say they are Ford guys. I am a harsh critic of car shows on tv and RUclips. Tfl guys are some of the best guys reviewing cars.
@@JohnSmith-ev1sm If you have been watching, you would know what Andre previous truck was and his current truck, guess he is a real Ford lover, just doesn't like driving them.
@@adamhulu6171 Logic fail? Just because they didn't do some arbitrary random thing you mention, doesn't mean they aren't biased. Watch their reviews carefully (not this one in particular), those 2 guys are very pro Ford.
I just got obsessed watching these videos from last night. I don’t even know anything about pick up trucks but these videos give a whole lot of information and the drag racing with amazing performance figures of these trucks and are no where to be compared to the mid size suv I drive. Thanks a lot for making these videos.
Hopefully you're just poking fun at the absurdity of these videos and understand they cover all of the other bases and do these ones for fun. Too many people don't understand that
@@williamisabell9539 A Chevy work truck starts at $30k with no cruise control and crank windows. THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR NO CRUISE CONTROL? I really hope the auto bubble for trucks bursts soon, it has become absurd.
Chuck Beef I agree it took me a while to find my 6.2 midnight edition back in 2017 there were a few in the high country trim but I don’t like Crome lol
Pete my first 6.2L was a 2010 and it was like pulling teeth with my dealer to bring it in. “You wont want that, too bad on gas. Take one of our 5.3L SLT’s instead “. My friend searched for 2 years to find his, rarest truck ive seen. It was a 2012 6.2L LTZ double cab, but it had the 5’8” box on a DC and not the 6’6” box. Awesome performance platform, but it was stolen and driven into a tree.
A few model years of the 5.3L V8 suffered with oil consumption issues and problems. GM has a gigantic class action lawsuit on the 8 speed automatic transmission used in full size SUV's and trucks.
I was actually surprised in the race between the AT-4 and the 6.2L. I really thought the diesel would get gapped worse than that. I’m sure the turbo helped with the elevation and probably would have been even closer if they were running the same tires! Great content as always
If you own one it will impress you even more. I've had fast diesels all my life and I just sold the 7.3 mod Ford and bought a High Country Silverado 1500 with the 3.0 diesel. The 3.0 diesel is plenty fast for an old man and the fuel mileage is fantastic. Plus the exhaust brake is super.
@@lowboy003 3L diesel definitely has some torque and is definitely a joy to drive. As far as fast, it can briefly break the wheels free if you floor it but it's not really meant for speed. 1500 3L is great for expressway driving and doing infrequent towing. if you want speed get a sports car, if you want to tow get a 2500/3500. if you want to tow light /occasionally, take the family to dinner in a decent truck, get good mpg's and would just like to have something higher off the ground for safety i think the 1500 3L is a great option. It does turn heads too. I personally find the stiffer seats more comfortable but it's a personal preference.
@@SimpleAbundance I just picked up a 2022 Colorado ZR2 Bison in Oregon two weeks ago for the wife with the factory rare off- road AEV kit on it and 2 inches higher than stock Colorados.. It was nearly new and has sat in a garage since the lady bought it. It has low miles and not a mark on it, top or bottom. It had the LWN 2.8 motor for 41K cash. It had a 62K sticker new. The mileage with a light foot on the way home was 28 MPG for 400 miles. We have a couple of 3500 trucks for work with L5P motors, and that's the only way to go for towing anything heavy. But as an old man, my RC 4" lifted High Country 1500 LM2 is a joy to drive, and nothing rides smoother with the real lift kit that gives level-A arms with coil-over shocks. I made the mistake of letting my wife drive it, and she wanted one instead of the VW Golf TDI. The Colorado ZR2 was perfect, and she loves it, but it rides a bit rougher than my lifted High Country.
Anthony Cee yea that would be a cool race but a 3+ ton truck is not made for drag racing it’s made for pulling and carrying heavy loads. That’s why the f250 has 20 less mph top speed than f150. If a heavy truck goes too fast the axle (stock) could snap unless maybe the owner gets a better axle.
One of the big advantages of the 6.2 is it usually comes with the max towing package which comes with much lower gear ratios so it really helps acceleration getting up to 60mph. My 6.2 won't hook up at all if I launch in 2wd no matter what (at sea level), but in 4hi I can turn off traction control, stubilitrack, and brake reving to a few thousand rpm and hook up no problem. Easily gets from 0 to 60 in the just over 5 seconds. I switch back into 2hi at about 45mph but I don't know if that really helps at all, or if it is even able to switch back that fast under load. I've only done a couple times and wouldn't do it again though... I don't think any light duty pickup truck is really built for those kinds of forces, and I'd rather not find out...
Nice drag races! I'm liking more and more on 3.0 GM diesel. It runs pretty good. And, it gets great mileage. I didn't think I would ever be thinking diesel, again, but I am...
love my AT4 Diesel in the mountains i was all over a ford rapter and could top hills better. Sure he gets me in 1/4 mile but he is screaming to top hills.
Thank you for the comparison! I just came from a 5.3 GMC to a 3.0 GMC. I felt the 3.0 was quicker but wasn’t sure. I’ve been waiting for the diesel vs gas comparison for a wile now to find out.
I own a 2014 Chevy Silverado LTZ/4x4 with the 5.3L. Been a great truck. Did a Diablo canned tune on it last summer. It eliminated the "4-cylinder mode", improved shift points, speed limiter deactivation, and "91 performance tune". I have no way of knowing how much more power it has. But, driving it is a blast now. The tires break loose, pedal feel is instant, and it "roars" more (if that makes any sense). Prob still won't win a drag race with the 6.2L, but sure feels uncorked with this canned tune (and more fun!). If I ever sell it, I would def get the 6.2L. But, the 5.3L has a lot of potential to make horsepower
I could be wrong but the last 6.2 Ike Gauntlet Towing test was in 2017! I would love to see the new 6.2 charging up the ike gauntlet! You guys are Awesome!
We need to see 0-60 / 40-70 towing videos. The don’t need to be towing a massive amount but maybe 5,000 lbs which would be a typical load for this class. Seeing their stopping abilities loaded would be nice as well.
I'm good with my 08 Ram Heavy Duty 2500 4/4 Hemi with 105,000 miles. Definitely enough power for me. Runs Excellent. Pulls whatever I need to be pulled.
FutureRN_Corey _ They are great on gas if you stick with those garbage stock SRA tires but as soon as you put real tires on it takes a dump. I used to get better mileage with my 6.2 8spd than my 5.3 6spd before 33x12.5” on the 6.2.
i had a 2014 gmc sierra with the 5.3 & 6 speed trans....gas mileage was decent...15-16 mpg city...traded it in 2 months ago for a 2020 sierra SLT with the 6.2L & 10 speed trans ..what a difference in power but i didnt know the 6.2 recommended fuel was 93 octane for best performace/mpg....in my area its 60 cents a gallon more and im only getting 13 mpg city now
I have a 2018 Silverado with the 5.3. I love that truck. If I wanted to race I would have gotten a car. I get up to speed just fine in my truck. However, that new Duramax in the 1500 is mighty tempting.
Kevin McCune Yeah someone else was telling me the same thing. Something about a wet belt to run the oil pump. Had no clue what he was talking about but it sounded bad. Lol.
@@rgracia611 Engines are so good now, the engineers have to build in service points, the sad thing is it will be mostly the 2nd owners that face these astronomical repair costs, buy a gasser or a 3/4 ton real DMax.
@@kevinmccune682 It's in $1200-2400 ball park. It's pricey, but modern trucks ain't cheap. I mean people spend 3x that lifting their trucks, spend $1000-1500 on tires. Lol
Downside to the 6.2 is you have to use higher octane fuel to keep up with performance since it’s the same as a camaro motor but de-tuned for more torque. Read it in my Denali owner’s manual about fuel usage between the 5.3 & 6.2.
Yeah, but even then, the regular gas can be safely used. You don't lose much in terms of mpg, even though the power drop is noticeable enough to feel in the seat of your pants
I found it pretty amazing that the 3L GM diesel truck was almost as fast, I mean to the point where it would come down to the driver, as the exhaust modded Ford 7.3 that high above sea level. That's pretty incredible when you think about it, especially considering the severe difference in fuel consumption.
It’s really not that amazing. The 7.3 Ford was a gasser motor, not a power stroke. The massive power to weight ratio was the real killer here. Put a 10,000lb trailer on them and do the test again. Also, just so there’s no confusion, I am by no means a Ford guy, but this comparison is a little out there. I know it’s just fun, but something about apples and oranges.
Just picked up a 21 GMC sierra denali with the 3.0L duramax, and she's a hell of a truck. Comming from the big daddy Duramax in a 2500 I'm very impressed. Great vid guys as usual, but this is just wicked fun and real world use.
That was fun, thanks I enjoyed it. I have a 2017 6.2 SIERRA SLT CREW, that I'm or have added exhaust, cold air kit, leveling, air bags, and hope a Supercharger & bigger front binders. This 8 speed is a blast to drive. Oh yeah, it's cheaper than a diesel to operate @ 25mpg. Thanks for certification.
The 5.3 is an excellent motor. Decent power, not as much as other but it’s gets the job done. They’re also bulletproof as a police vehicle motor. The PPV Tahoe is the most reliable and longest lasting police vehicle in my patrol fleet. The Ford eco boost is quick, but they do not handle the hard driving very well, as most patrol cars endure some HARD driving.
I agree. Most people don't think the 5.3 is a good or impressive engine. You can try to run a 5.3 to the ground but they just keep going. Most people trashing the 5.3 have probably never owned one. The 6.2 is awesome too.
@@michaelhooker5914 Idiot. Work on your damn grammar. Barley is a leaf not an adjective. Also, the only reason the V6 eb beats the GM 6.2 is because it has turbos. Cheating will only get you so far.....
Barley is a grain not a leaf lol, and why does it matter if it’s turbocharged? The gm is 6.2 liters vs 3.5, obviously it’s going to need boost. And it works quite well spanking all the other brands in terms of performance.
@@randythomas9052 Yes and it costs more. The 3.5 is a small engine, it's not made to handle high loads. That's why the GM can tow more. I'd rather have a V8 for the extra punch and the sound is so much better. Sorry for the barley mistake.
Trevor C really????? Thats a serious time for a truck. Impressive. Its unfortunate the 7.3 doesn’t haul more ass. Its ine of the main reasons i love my 2016 diesel. The endless power
That was a fun video. I have a 2018 GMC Yukon Denali with the 6.2 & I love how it drives plus on the highway it gets excellent gas mileage. I’ve gotten 22 mpg out of it & I wasn’t doing 60 either.
Hugely helpful... but that duramax in a Yukon Denali for the long family road trips.... getting 725 miles to a tank, in supreme comfort and silence... magic!
I had a 2018 gmc . Bought a 2024 gmc at4 with 3.0 diesel. Pulling a 18 foot fishing boat I get abought 5 miles per gallon better have yet to go on a long trip but just driving around home I get around 7 to 8 better. Definitely liking this truck
@@USAMEXICO1982 yeah but why would you take the big beautiful thing on a drag race? I still like the 7.3 more and as he said the other trucks were stock the ford wasn't
5 star tune the 7.3 and you will get high 6's 0-60. That's with a 3" Carli level, custom after market dual exhaust and 37's. She even squawk's between gears. Oy ya, she'll tow 15000 pounds, and almost rides as well as my older GMC 1500. Love all that you guys do..keep up the awesome videos
I enjoy the tests at a mile high as I live not far from your test site. It would be interesting to see the same tests at sea level. I have the 5.3 in my silverado and think it is the perfect engine for a half ton pickup.
I bought three GMCs at the same time, 2 were 5.3 liters, one was 6.2. The 6.2 ALWAYS gets better mpg than the 5.3's by about 3-4 mpg. I can and do tow a 9000 lb travel trailer with it and get between 7 and 9 mpg. Love my 6.2l.
@@nathanmcdonald610 you're right. There is no comparison. That's why I think when you're racing a 5.3 and a 6.2, its idiotic. I wouldn't call this a "race" I call it, my engine is bigger than yours....and let me prove it.
Buy the Ford.....not so much because of the great 7.3L gas engine...but because Ford.....and Dodge know how to build great 4WD trucks. The GM engineers do not have a clue on how to build a great 4WD Class 2 (2500) and Class 3 (3500) trucks. The Chevrolet and GMC 4WD trucks with IFS axle have very poor axle articulation resulting in inadequate wheel travel + low hanging frames with poor "breakover angle" = stuck truck.....due to no front tire traction and "high center" on uneven terrain in mud and snow off-road. GM trucks stuck off-road. I have seen this scenario play out numerous times in the Rocky mountain states! GM builds little girl "car like" grocery getting trucks! Ford and Dodge build brute man tough trucks that are capable of performing tough truck tasks on both paved highways and off-road in the mud and snow. In short......Chevrolet and GMC trucks are junk!!!
The 5.3 might not be fast but it is reliable as is the 4.8 Chevy puts out. I have two customers, one 5.3 1500 and 4.8 Yukon both of these engines have been abused, tortured, and beat into submission by there owners and for some reason run perfect, quite at idle, responsive. For instance the 1500 is a newer customer and said truck had a skip or hesitation to go up hill. Pulled plugs and the gap was almost .64! There was no plug left! Still ran smooth until under load. I am a Ford fan myself but those Chevy v8s are tough, I will point however everything around the engine is trash and going out. Great video guys good job!
@@Zach-ju5vi eh its the truth haha literally rest of the trucks are falling apart. The 1500 customer is back because radio hasn't worked I'm some time and come to find out the speakers are rotted! Its a 07!!! My 96 explorer still has working speakers that arnt rotted!
@@jayrauser5365 that is true but this one in this Yukon is a gem, runs like a champ even though it has been through the ringer repeatedly. Not saying it has power or anything just runs good even though it has been very poorly maintained.
The 6.2 and 5.3 are having major lifter issues. So glad I went with the smaller Duramax. I got lucky, as I almost jumped on the 6.2, but happened to run across the Duramax in stock. Ran to dealer that minute and haven’t looked back.
@@lesgrossman9492 the baby Duramax has been out plenty long to know if it has any problems as prevalent as the lifter issues in the gas motors. Apparently it doesn’t
the 6.2l took the 5.3l to gapplebees! i have the 5.3 and i chose it for price and reliability also i have no need for my truck to be fast and if i needed more towing i wouldve chosen a heavy duty truck. it does everything i need. if anyone reading this is tring to decide which. id suggest cross shopping the 5.3l vs the 3l diesel not the 6.2l if you "need" the 6.2 get a heavy duty
That sucker ripped,what would it do with a tuner( please leave those worthless CAIs out of the picture, the engines don't need to suck dirt.- I will admit you might gain 2HP at Redline)
6.2 and Duramax efficiency cant be beat. Single cam V8 and straight 6 diesel power. Tried and true... Now with the use of multiple speed gear sets. Thank you lord. Cant wait for 20 speed 1/2 ton
@@thomgt4 The 6.2 has a lot of room for tuning. It's built for longevity more than power. The only reason GM doesn't just throw a tuned modern corvette engine into a truck is because the "sport truck" craze never fully set in. But imagine if the big three started to make them again. The potential is massive compared to those days. I think the "sport truck" and "muscle truck" are gonna have a huge comeback. I mean, look at how many Americans buy trucks these days.
Have a 2020 gmc 1500 elevation. 5.3 and 10 speed. 6” bds lift. 20”Wheels. 35” Tires. Exhaust. Intake. Headers. 6.2 manifold and throttle body. SuperChips Pulsar lt. So...getting rid of dfm, auto stop start and killing throttle delay along with these other mods...thing seriously moves. Will light up th me 35” tires if traction is off. Everyone is so blown away. Out runs stock hemi 1500 and 6.2 gm trucks.
I Loved The 6.2L Big Boy V8 & The 3.0L Duramax Turbo I6 Diesel Both From GM, Because The 5.3L Small Boy V8 The 3.6L Pentastar V6 The 3.0L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel & EcoDiesel Are Slow. But Those 2 Large Motors I Loved They Compared To The 3 EcoBoost Motors & 5.0L Coyote V8 From Ford F-150 & The 5.7L HEMI V8 From Ram 1500 Which Are Fast.The 7.3L Godzilla V8 Is A Good Towing Truck.
The only difference, maybe it won’t pick up 1.8 seconds in the 0-60 is if you don’t have awd and you’re running it in 4 wheel drive that’s a lot of drivetrain loss I like all brands and love the testing and the 6.2 has always been a beast but just something to think about,I drive a Cummins my wife and I bought a Tahoe and I absolutely love the awd option you just leave it and forget about it I wish all manufacturers went that direction now my 03 Cummins is a 6 speed manual and manual 4wd and I love it because it’s a work truck and there’s less chances for failure but I love that awd drive in the Tahoe love the videos keep it up guys👍
Yeah that seems a lot more intense than I think even the camera made it seem. That does seem like a silly track and I think they might be pushing it's limitations with some of this Hardware lately.
Yup sad but ecoboost is faster thats only because the 6.2 is matted to a 3.23 compared to the 3.55 of the ford not a big difference but lets say 3.73 rear in the 6.2 it would be close.
I now own the 6.2 and I can tell you at sea level I can beat the eco boost from a dead stop to 100 the only way it beats me is if they actually break torque and spoil the turbos and even then I’m right there with them and I have the 8 speed racing the new f-150 with the eco boost ten speed
Do a video of the TFL people’s vehicles that you own and drive! Would love to see your guys pick when your off the camera! Keep pumping out the awesome videos👍🏼
The thing people seem to overlook about the 5.3 is that on the highway in my experience you can easily get over 30 mpg. I've owned two of them so far, and I'm willing to sacrifice a few ponies for the fact that it's still a pleasure to drive, and I haven't seen any truck that can achieve the mileage numbers the 5.3, at least the ones I own can achieve.
@@jimberg4917 I had a 2016 regular cab short box 4x4, that was great on fuel, and a 2018 crew cab that would also achieve over 30 mpg on long trips. It really depends on your driving style, (I drive like an old lady) and luck of the draw on the truck itself. My work pickup is a 2014 Silverado, and even on long trips the best it ever achieved was about 23 mpg. My 2020 with the dynamic fuel management wasn't as good on fuel as the trucks with the active fuel management for whatever reason, but they were all 4x4.
Both Ecoboost engines would smoke the 6.2L in a drag race. Small diesels are designed for towing, not drag racing. Hence, gas is quicker, diesel is better for towing.
Love the drag race, and i would love to see the Raptor against that Chevy 6.2L, that could be interesting. You guys are really great with pure fun content.
Check out the Chevrolet Jackal...AND a regular Ford F-150 with 5.0L V8 at -------> PaxPower ( V8Raptor.com ). I prefer the regular Ford F-150 body with 5.0L V8 and either factory Raptor suspension.....OR...the better Icon aftermarket "Raptor style replacement" suspension and Whipple Supercharger...A Ford F-150 4WD incognito....." a wolf in sheep's clothing!!!"
Nice vid. You guys rock. I have @ gmc Denali with 6.2. Lots of kick but needed a complete tear down at 120000 km. Under warranty then but not now with Chevy reduced the warranty. And the 8 speed Trans has never shifted right. Twice yesterday at 105 km I floored it. Big Bang before it shifted. Great motor. Horrible truck. First and last Chev.
I love watching these guys
Hugh Jinvaney what distance do need to stop, I guess 1 mile :-) safety in 1 place I can't help laughing
danhalski all the words are there, but they seem to be in random order.
Why not start your trucks further back, this track is tiny for any type of drag racing as evidence by your constant panic stops and running into the grass......
Because you love the cringe factor?? This has to be a bot
That second c😧mmie with no beard seems like have drugaddiction !! Better to go back to his ground in societ
Love how you guys don’t have a real bias for any brand just want to see yourselves win.
These guys are pretty heavily biased towards Ford, don't kid yourself. Huge Ford fans (Roman/Andre). Nathan I found to be the most level headed.
@@JohnSmith-ev1sm if biased toward Ford, why didnt they mention a 3.5 F150 would have beat any of these trucks?
John Smith from recent memory their last long term tests were Silverado trail boss ram rebel and Nissan Frontier they did recently pick up a f250. So I wouldn’t say they are Ford guys. I am a harsh critic of car shows on tv and RUclips. Tfl guys are some of the best guys reviewing cars.
@@JohnSmith-ev1sm If you have been watching, you would know what Andre previous truck was and his current truck, guess he is a real Ford lover, just doesn't like driving them.
@@adamhulu6171 Logic fail? Just because they didn't do some arbitrary random thing you mention, doesn't mean they aren't biased. Watch their reviews carefully (not this one in particular), those 2 guys are very pro Ford.
The 6.2 is a BEAST. Also super impressed with the 3.0 Diesel - it was surprisingly fast
Yeah max respect for the diesel wasn’t even considering one but now have to reconsider
Plus the new version has a bunch more HP and Torque
I just got obsessed watching these videos from last night. I don’t even know anything about pick up trucks but these videos give a whole lot of information and the drag racing with amazing performance figures of these trucks and are no where to be compared to the mid size suv I drive. Thanks a lot for making these videos.
I'm so proud of GM! Straight 6 diesel! Hell yea!!!
Finally the important need to know information every real world truck buyer needs 😂👍🏻
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I remember when it was , can afford a new work truck? Now they re more than my first house.
Hopefully you're just poking fun at the absurdity of these videos and understand they cover all of the other bases and do these ones for fun. Too many people don't understand that
@@williamisabell9539 A Chevy work truck starts at $30k with no cruise control and crank windows. THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR NO CRUISE CONTROL? I really hope the auto bubble for trucks bursts soon, it has become absurd.
Brett Friedrichsen you must be new here.
"The big, knobby tires help propel me to speed." - Andre'
That was funny and I don't know why lol. Great video!
6.2L all day. It’s good that GM finally offers it in lower trim levels too.
Yes, they wont be so rare on the used market now. Be cool to have a WT with a 6.2
Chuck Beef I agree it took me a while to find my 6.2 midnight edition back in 2017 there were a few in the high country trim but I don’t like Crome lol
Pete my first 6.2L was a 2010 and it was like pulling teeth with my dealer to bring it in. “You wont want that, too bad on gas. Take one of our 5.3L SLT’s instead “. My friend searched for 2 years to find his, rarest truck ive seen. It was a 2012 6.2L LTZ double cab, but it had the 5’8” box on a DC and not the 6’6” box. Awesome performance platform, but it was stolen and driven into a tree.
Chuck Beef Yea for some reason GM and dealers have made the 6.2L some mythical creature. To me that couple thousand is worth it for the 6.2L.
Bet fords 3.5 would mop it I like my gm’s
Andre at 2:25 "I think the 5.3 liter V8 is one of the more under-appreciated engines." Nathan a short time later after the launch: "Buh-bye"
A few model years of the 5.3L V8 suffered with oil consumption issues and problems. GM has a gigantic class action lawsuit on the 8 speed automatic transmission used in full size SUV's and trucks.
They should have raced the 5.3 with the eco diesels the 5.3 should have beat them
The 5.3 is still a 14 second truck, and 6.2 nearly runs 13's stock.
5.3 has been an excellent engine for me, 150k miles and running like a dream
Do you have the 8speed or 10?
Mystery Solver mine has the six speed, single cab SLE Sierra
Thx, im still trying to figure out what new truck would be better than my f150 that has been junk since i bought it 1 yesr ago
Andre's face when he runs out of road...priceless.
Haha LMFAO
4:15 5.3 vs 6.2
8:39 Ecodiesel vs Duramax
11:00 6.2 vs Duramax
13:49 6.2 vs 7.3
Great video, as always boys!
I was actually surprised in the race between the AT-4 and the 6.2L. I really thought the diesel would get gapped worse than that. I’m sure the turbo helped with the elevation and probably would have been even closer if they were running the same tires! Great content as always
Wow that GMC diesel impressed the hell out of me!!!
If you own one it will impress you even more. I've had fast diesels all my life and I just sold the 7.3 mod Ford and bought a High Country Silverado 1500 with the 3.0 diesel. The 3.0 diesel is plenty fast for an old man and the fuel mileage is fantastic. Plus the exhaust brake is super.
@@lowboy003 3L diesel definitely has some torque and is definitely a joy to drive. As far as fast, it can briefly break the wheels free if you floor it but it's not really meant for speed. 1500 3L is great for expressway driving and doing infrequent towing. if you want speed get a sports car, if you want to tow get a 2500/3500. if you want to tow light /occasionally, take the family to dinner in a decent truck, get good mpg's and would just like to have something higher off the ground for safety i think the 1500 3L is a great option. It does turn heads too. I personally find the stiffer seats more comfortable but it's a personal preference.
@@SimpleAbundance I just picked up a 2022 Colorado ZR2 Bison in Oregon two weeks ago for the wife with the factory rare off- road AEV kit on it and 2 inches higher than stock Colorados.. It was nearly new and has sat in a garage since the lady bought it. It has low miles and not a mark on it, top or bottom. It had the LWN 2.8 motor for 41K cash. It had a 62K sticker new. The mileage with a light foot on the way home was 28 MPG for 400 miles.
We have a couple of 3500 trucks for work with L5P motors, and that's the only way to go for towing anything heavy. But as an old man, my RC 4" lifted High Country 1500 LM2 is a joy to drive, and nothing rides smoother with the real lift kit that gives level-A arms with coil-over shocks. I made the mistake of letting my wife drive it, and she wanted one instead of the VW Golf TDI. The Colorado ZR2 was perfect, and she loves it, but it rides a bit rougher than my lifted High Country.
When can we see drag racing between the ford 7.3, Chevy 6.6 and the ram 6.4 ???? We are waiting!!!!!
Anthony Cee that would be a better Race
Anthony Cee yea that would be a cool race but a 3+ ton truck is not made for drag racing it’s made for pulling and carrying heavy loads. That’s why the f250 has 20 less mph top speed than f150. If a heavy truck goes too fast the axle (stock) could snap unless maybe the owner gets a better axle.
Cool Pizzo
How would the axle snap because of speed?
Cool Pizzo tfl has raced dually diesel trucks recently. Also f150 has same topspeed as f250.... about 100-105 mph
@@digitalduuude2135 fastest I have gone with a f150 2019 for was 110 115 with the 5.0
One of the big advantages of the 6.2 is it usually comes with the max towing package which comes with much lower gear ratios so it really helps acceleration getting up to 60mph. My 6.2 won't hook up at all if I launch in 2wd no matter what (at sea level), but in 4hi I can turn off traction control, stubilitrack, and brake reving to a few thousand rpm and hook up no problem. Easily gets from 0 to 60 in the just over 5 seconds. I switch back into 2hi at about 45mph but I don't know if that really helps at all, or if it is even able to switch back that fast under load. I've only done a couple times and wouldn't do it again though... I don't think any light duty pickup truck is really built for those kinds of forces, and I'd rather not find out...
Nice drag races! I'm liking more and more on 3.0 GM diesel. It runs pretty good. And, it gets great mileage. I didn't think I would ever be thinking diesel, again, but I am...
Yes sir, same here
love my AT4 Diesel in the mountains i was all over a ford rapter and could top hills better. Sure he gets me in 1/4 mile but he is screaming to top hills.
@@joseroldan3363 I love my 3.0l LM2. Amazing mpg and it slaughters the 5.3l at elevation and competes nicely against the 6.2l at elevation as well.
Thank you for the comparison! I just came from a 5.3 GMC to a 3.0 GMC. I felt the 3.0 was quicker but wasn’t sure. I’ve been waiting for the diesel vs gas comparison for a wile now to find out.
The 5.3 is quicker than the Diesel at sea level.
3.0 is definitely faster, I had both!
Andre’s face at the end of the track when he’s on the binders!
Haha, I was thinking that too.
You guys need a better/longer straight track.
RIght?! I've never seen someone so nervous while going that slow.
Of course we couldn't see the truck, but from that reaction on his face, it looked liked he was about to have a wreck.🤣
I own a 2014 Chevy Silverado LTZ/4x4 with the 5.3L. Been a great truck. Did a Diablo canned tune on it last summer. It eliminated the "4-cylinder mode", improved shift points, speed limiter deactivation, and "91 performance tune". I have no way of knowing how much more power it has. But, driving it is a blast now. The tires break loose, pedal feel is instant, and it "roars" more (if that makes any sense). Prob still won't win a drag race with the 6.2L, but sure feels uncorked with this canned tune (and more fun!). If I ever sell it, I would def get the 6.2L. But, the 5.3L has a lot of potential to make horsepower
I want to see a at4 diesel compete with another at4 with the 6.2 it would be exactly the matchup I’m looking for
I could be wrong but the last 6.2 Ike Gauntlet Towing test was in 2017! I would love to see the new 6.2 charging up the ike gauntlet! You guys are Awesome!
We need to see 0-60 / 40-70 towing videos. The don’t need to be towing a massive amount but maybe 5,000 lbs which would be a typical load for this class. Seeing their stopping abilities loaded would be nice as well.
I'm good with my 08 Ram Heavy Duty 2500 4/4 Hemi with 105,000 miles. Definitely enough power for me. Runs Excellent. Pulls whatever I need to be pulled.
That 6.2 is 💪 strong.
😭😭😭😭I should have brought the 6.2 DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN🤷🏽♂️
It’ll pass anything but a gas station and I don’t care 😂
FutureRN_Corey _ They are great on gas if you stick with those garbage stock SRA tires but as soon as you put real tires on it takes a dump. I used to get better mileage with my 6.2 8spd than my 5.3 6spd before 33x12.5” on the 6.2.
@@ChuckBeefOG ......yeap I put 33x12.5 on my Denali....so I know what you are talking about 🤦🏽♂️
i had a 2014 gmc sierra with the 5.3 & 6 speed trans....gas mileage was decent...15-16 mpg city...traded it in 2 months ago for a 2020 sierra SLT with the 6.2L & 10 speed trans ..what a difference in power but i didnt know the 6.2 recommended fuel was 93 octane for best performace/mpg....in my area its 60 cents a gallon more and im only getting 13 mpg city now
I have a 2018 Silverado with the 5.3. I love that truck. If I wanted to race I would have gotten a car. I get up to speed just fine in my truck. However, that new Duramax in the 1500 is mighty tempting.
Don't, look at the engineering, she will be a hanger queen after 100K( you can't afford to repair this thing.)
Kevin McCune Yeah someone else was telling me the same thing. Something about a wet belt to run the oil pump. Had no clue what he was talking about but it sounded bad. Lol.
@@rgracia611 Engines are so good now, the engineers have to build in service points, the sad thing is it will be mostly the 2nd owners that face these astronomical repair costs, buy a gasser or a 3/4 ton real DMax.
@@kevinmccune682 It's in $1200-2400 ball park. It's pricey, but modern trucks ain't cheap.
I mean people spend 3x that lifting their trucks, spend $1000-1500 on tires. Lol
Great video guys, fun and informative! Keep up the good work!
Downside to the 6.2 is you have to use higher octane fuel to keep up with performance since it’s the same as a camaro motor but de-tuned for more torque. Read it in my Denali owner’s manual about fuel usage between the 5.3 & 6.2.
Yeah, but even then, the regular gas can be safely used. You don't lose much in terms of mpg, even though the power drop is noticeable enough to feel in the seat of your pants
I found it pretty amazing that the 3L GM diesel truck was almost as fast, I mean to the point where it would come down to the driver, as the exhaust modded Ford 7.3 that high above sea level. That's pretty incredible when you think about it, especially considering the severe difference in fuel consumption.
It’s really not that amazing. The 7.3 Ford was a gasser motor, not a power stroke. The massive power to weight ratio was the real killer here. Put a 10,000lb trailer on them and do the test again. Also, just so there’s no confusion, I am by no means a Ford guy, but this comparison is a little out there. I know it’s just fun, but something about apples and oranges.
I love my 3.0 Duramax in my 2022 Escalade 4x4. It impresses me more and more all the time. Love it!
I wanna see the 5.3 and the 3.0 go at it
I have a beautiful newer 2018 Z 71. 6.2. And you know what? I’ve never raced anyone with my truck.
Stock vs stock. 3.0 is much faster.
Just picked up a 21 GMC sierra denali with the 3.0L duramax, and she's a hell of a truck. Comming from the big daddy Duramax in a 2500 I'm very impressed. Great vid guys as usual, but this is just wicked fun and real world use.
That was fun, thanks I enjoyed it. I have a 2017 6.2 SIERRA SLT CREW, that I'm or have added exhaust, cold air kit, leveling, air bags, and hope a Supercharger & bigger front binders. This 8 speed is a blast to drive. Oh yeah, it's cheaper than a diesel to operate @ 25mpg. Thanks for certification.
The 5.3 is an excellent motor. Decent power, not as much as other but it’s gets the job done. They’re also bulletproof as a police vehicle motor. The PPV Tahoe is the most reliable and longest lasting police vehicle in my patrol fleet. The Ford eco boost is quick, but they do not handle the hard driving very well, as most patrol cars endure some HARD driving.
I agree. Most people don't think the 5.3 is a good or impressive engine. You can try to run a 5.3 to the ground but they just keep going. Most people trashing the 5.3 have probably never owned one. The 6.2 is awesome too.
Wish you guys wouldve raced the gmc diesel vs the chevy 5.3. That wouldve been the most interesting race and ive havent seen anyone else do it yet
Awesome video guys , keep it going very informative without any bias towards auto brands .
Love the racing! Well done men. GM rules!
Silver bearded Irish yeah it barely beats out the 5.0 and gets its ass whooped by the 3.5 EB. GM is trash.
@@michaelhooker5914 Idiot. Work on your damn grammar. Barley is a leaf not an adjective. Also, the only reason the V6 eb beats the GM 6.2 is because it has turbos. Cheating will only get you so far.....
Barley is a grain not a leaf lol, and why does it matter if it’s turbocharged? The gm is 6.2 liters vs 3.5, obviously it’s going to need boost. And it works quite well spanking all the other brands in terms of performance.
@@randythomas9052 Yes and it costs more. The 3.5 is a small engine, it's not made to handle high loads. That's why the GM can tow more. I'd rather have a V8 for the extra punch and the sound is so much better. Sorry for the barley mistake.
@@noahmcclure2515 STFU
Thank you for doing this video! Comparing all engines
Be it Gas powered or Diesel, if they have similar HP, a Straight-6 will always beat a V-6.
Sincere question. Why?
And that diesel motor is in the Yukon and Tahoe? Now I really think I want one
AND the escalade as well
And the long wheel base models as well (suburban)
That 6.2 would be pushing some serious 0-60 times closer to sea level.
Chad BassMaster I’ve got a friend with a tuned one. The 6.2 hauls ass.
They do 0-60 in a hair over 5 seconds bone stock, they're no joke lol
Trevor C really????? Thats a serious time for a truck. Impressive. Its unfortunate the 7.3 doesn’t haul more ass. Its ine of the main reasons i love my 2016 diesel. The endless power
And these jack weeds always race the eco boost vs the 6.2 above sea level. Purposely I presume because they do it every time
@@chadbassmaster9084 the 7.3 only comes in a 2500 series. They should test the 6.6 chevy 2500 vs the 7.3
That was a fun video. I have a 2018 GMC Yukon Denali with the 6.2 & I love how it drives plus on the highway it gets excellent gas mileage. I’ve gotten 22 mpg out of it & I wasn’t doing 60 either.
Muchas gracias por el video, sois los mejores.
Hugely helpful... but that duramax in a Yukon Denali for the long family road trips.... getting 725 miles to a tank, in supreme comfort and silence... magic!
It went as it should. The GMC diesel started off strong the the 6.2 caught up and passed on by. Diesels designed for low rpm torque.
I had a 2018 gmc . Bought a 2024 gmc at4 with 3.0 diesel. Pulling a 18 foot fishing boat I get abought 5 miles per gallon better have yet to go on a long trip but just driving around home I get around 7 to 8 better. Definitely liking this truck
That 3.0 duramax is amazing, I went out and test drove one after watching the TFL/AT4 video yesterday.
every video of people who bought one has had overheating problems
Yes its impressive my next truck 4 sure! But I'd wait for 2nd gen! 1st gen will have issues.
I have one and love it no issues here!
@@Vetteman6363 maybe lucky TK's Garage truck had problems at 146 miles
gulf city peterbilt confederacy 379 it’ll be fine it’s an inline 6 what could go wrong
Love this segment! Thanks for the drag race! I love my 6.2l chevy silverado.
I'm surprised the Godzilla was that slow.
Godzila is too heavy
@@USAMEXICO1982 yeah but why would you take the big beautiful thing on a drag race? I still like the 7.3 more and as he said the other trucks were stock the ford wasn't
This is exactly the video i wanted to watch
5 star tune the 7.3 and you will get high 6's 0-60. That's with a 3" Carli level, custom after market dual exhaust and 37's. She even squawk's between gears. Oy ya, she'll tow 15000 pounds, and almost rides as well as my older GMC 1500. Love all that you guys do..keep up the awesome videos
I enjoy the tests at a mile high as I live not far from your test site. It would be interesting to see the same tests at sea level. I have the 5.3 in my silverado and think it is the perfect engine for a half ton pickup.
I bought three GMCs at the same time, 2 were 5.3 liters, one was 6.2. The 6.2 ALWAYS gets better mpg than the 5.3's by about 3-4 mpg. I can and do tow a 9000 lb travel trailer with it and get between 7 and 9 mpg. Love my 6.2l.
6.2: You're slow 5.3
5.3: But I'm lifted and have oversize tires. Gimme a break.
Rocket John the 5.3 is still slow 😂
The slowest 6.2L is still going to demolish the fastest 5.3L stock for stock.
@@nathanmcdonald610 you're right. There is no comparison. That's why I think when you're racing a 5.3 and a 6.2, its idiotic. I wouldn't call this a "race" I call it, my engine is bigger than yours....and let me prove it.
TFL You guys are the best. You are the pick up specialist.
6.6 gas vs 7.3 godzilla recommendation please
There's no 6.6 gas it's a diesel.
@@billyhunt8983 there's both now. Gas and diesel for those heavy duty trucks
No 6.6 gas
@@a.k-1shot3 You are right I remember reading that they are coming out with one. I say it will smoke 7.3 from what I watched few days ago.
Buy the Ford.....not so much because of the great 7.3L gas engine...but because Ford.....and Dodge know how to build great 4WD trucks.
The GM engineers do not have a clue on how to build a great 4WD Class 2 (2500) and Class 3 (3500) trucks. The Chevrolet and GMC 4WD trucks with IFS axle have very poor axle articulation resulting in inadequate wheel travel + low hanging frames with poor "breakover angle" = stuck truck.....due to no front tire traction and "high center" on uneven terrain in mud and snow off-road. GM trucks stuck off-road.
I have seen this scenario play out numerous times in the Rocky mountain states!
GM builds little girl "car like" grocery getting trucks! Ford and Dodge build brute man tough trucks that are capable of performing tough truck tasks on both paved highways and off-road in the mud and snow. In short......Chevrolet and GMC trucks are junk!!!
Love the video, just got the 2021 6.2 v8 trail boss LT. Sport mode is a giant beast!
The 5.3 might not be fast but it is reliable as is the 4.8 Chevy puts out. I have two customers, one 5.3 1500 and 4.8 Yukon both of these engines have been abused, tortured, and beat into submission by there owners and for some reason run perfect, quite at idle, responsive. For instance the 1500 is a newer customer and said truck had a skip or hesitation to go up hill. Pulled plugs and the gap was almost .64! There was no plug left! Still ran smooth until under load. I am a Ford fan myself but those Chevy v8s are tough, I will point however everything around the engine is trash and going out. Great video guys good job!
The 4.8 was a gutless lemon, there is a reason it was dropped from the line up
Lol "everything around the engine is trash" spot on.
@@Zach-ju5vi eh its the truth haha literally rest of the trucks are falling apart. The 1500 customer is back because radio hasn't worked I'm some time and come to find out the speakers are rotted! Its a 07!!! My 96 explorer still has working speakers that arnt rotted!
@@jayrauser5365 that is true but this one in this Yukon is a gem, runs like a champ even though it has been through the ringer repeatedly. Not saying it has power or anything just runs good even though it has been very poorly maintained.
The 6.2 and 5.3 are having major lifter issues. So glad I went with the smaller Duramax. I got lucky, as I almost jumped on the 6.2, but happened to run across the Duramax in stock. Ran to dealer that minute and haven’t looked back.
Lifter issues are much more common on the 5.3. The small duramax hasn’t been out long enough to know what issues it might have.
@@lesgrossman9492 the baby Duramax has been out plenty long to know if it has any problems as prevalent as the lifter issues in the gas motors. Apparently it doesn’t
My dream truck right now is a Trail Boss with the 3.0 diesel. I can't wait to see what can be done with tuning them.
My 2014 5.3 with k&N cold air intake and edge cts2 set on performance running 3.08 gears 33s running 6.9 0-60
That was exciting and interesting at the same time! How about that!
the 6.2l took the 5.3l to gapplebees! i have the 5.3 and i chose it for price and reliability also i have no need for my truck to be fast and if i needed more towing i wouldve chosen a heavy duty truck. it does everything i need. if anyone reading this is tring to decide which. id suggest cross shopping the 5.3l vs the 3l diesel not the 6.2l if you "need" the 6.2 get a heavy duty
Because they already know F150 2.7L=6.98/ 3.5L EB=6.60 (watch on TFL)
Chevy lucky Ford didn't give you a Limited F150 . Come on Ford.
So glad I bought the 6.2L AT4, great truck!
Wow!! That 6.2L is a "BEAST" 🐗
That sucker ripped,what would it do with a tuner( please leave those worthless CAIs out of the picture, the engines don't need to suck dirt.- I will admit you might gain 2HP at Redline)
6.2 and Duramax efficiency cant be beat. Single cam V8 and straight 6 diesel power. Tried and true... Now with the use of multiple speed gear sets. Thank you lord. Cant wait for 20 speed 1/2 ton
More drag races please between diesel trucks including other companies .. like your videos
I love these TFL Truck drag races!
Awesome video 👍🏻
Would love to see gm 6.2 vs f-150 3.5 eco boost... that would be closer I bet
They already did it, the ecoboost even with 3:31 gears spanked the 6.2L
@@johns3950 shoot the 2.7 would spank it.
Are trucks really about speed? They all have ample passing power and power in general, so...
@@johns3950 ..Not at sea level..
rlhmarines yeeep it definitely would at any level lol
Hell yes!!!! Been looking for a review like this!!! 🙏🙏🙏 Thank you tfl!
Hmmmmmm that 3.0 just needs a little bit extra tuning to keep up with the 6.2 good good
It's very tunable because it's turbo, the 6.2 is what it is
@@thomgt4 The 6.2 has a lot of room for tuning. It's built for longevity more than power. The only reason GM doesn't just throw a tuned modern corvette engine into a truck is because the "sport truck" craze never fully set in. But imagine if the big three started to make them again. The potential is massive compared to those days. I think the "sport truck" and "muscle truck" are gonna have a huge comeback. I mean, look at how many Americans buy trucks these days.
Have a 2020 gmc 1500 elevation. 5.3 and 10 speed. 6” bds lift. 20”Wheels. 35” Tires. Exhaust. Intake. Headers. 6.2 manifold and throttle body. SuperChips Pulsar lt. So...getting rid of dfm, auto stop start and killing throttle delay along with these other mods...thing seriously moves. Will light up th me 35” tires if traction is off. Everyone is so blown away. Out runs stock hemi 1500 and 6.2 gm trucks.
Love these drag race videos you guys. But when you list the power numbers. Would love it if you also included the curb weight and rear axle ratio.
I Loved The 6.2L Big Boy V8 & The 3.0L Duramax Turbo I6 Diesel Both From GM, Because The 5.3L Small Boy V8 The 3.6L Pentastar V6 The 3.0L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel & EcoDiesel Are Slow. But Those 2 Large Motors I Loved They Compared To The 3 EcoBoost Motors & 5.0L Coyote V8 From Ford F-150 & The 5.7L HEMI V8 From Ram 1500 Which Are Fast.The 7.3L Godzilla V8 Is A Good Towing Truck.
GODZILLA VS. POWERSTROKE. please
This. But also the 6.2, and with towing
6.2 awesome power! Sierra c3 the Denali and now Silverado. Bravo!
The 5.3 sounds smoother running compared to 6.3
Because the 5.3 create less heat then the 6.2
So good! That 3.0 is quite impressive, but the 6.2 has got it.
Would love the see how that little Ford 2.7L EB in a Super Crew would so against the 6.2L.
At altitude it's a drives race. At sea level it's the 6.2s race to lose
The only difference, maybe it won’t pick up 1.8 seconds in the 0-60 is if you don’t have awd and you’re running it in 4 wheel drive that’s a lot of drivetrain loss I like all brands and love the testing and the 6.2 has always been a beast but just something to think about,I drive a Cummins my wife and I bought a Tahoe and I absolutely love the awd option you just leave it and forget about it I wish all manufacturers went that direction now my 03 Cummins is a 6 speed manual and manual 4wd and I love it because it’s a work truck and there’s less chances for failure but I love that awd drive in the Tahoe love the videos keep it up guys👍
Andrea almost looses it 8:55 - ABS activation and all sheesh man there was more track it just curved, what gives?
Yeah that seems a lot more intense than I think even the camera made it seem. That does seem like a silly track and I think they might be pushing it's limitations with some of this Hardware lately.
That GMC diesel is a damn nice looking truck IMO
Ready to see the 6.2 with the 10 speed vs the eco boost 3.5 F-150 at sea level
ecoboost would smack the 6.2.
Yup sad but ecoboost is faster thats only because the 6.2 is matted to a 3.23 compared to the 3.55 of the ford not a big difference but lets say 3.73 rear in the 6.2 it would be close.
I now own the 6.2 and I can tell you at sea level I can beat the eco boost from a dead stop to 100 the only way it beats me is if they actually break torque and spoil the turbos and even then I’m right there with them and I have the 8 speed racing the new f-150 with the eco boost ten speed
What a blast! I am jealous. Needed that Boys so thanks .
6.2 silverado cant beat the 3.5 ecoboost
Victor Hernandez It dose in longevity
Never
Truck racing??!!..AWESOME!!.. Excellent way to start off the morning... Thanks a lot Andre n Nathan.. Nice job guy's
Wheres the tug of war portion at?
Do a video of the TFL people’s vehicles that you own and drive! Would love to see your guys pick when your off the camera! Keep pumping out the awesome videos👍🏼
Love the drag race. 5.3l still not getting the love lol. The 5.3 at sea level in a Trail boss is 6.1 0-60 . That's not slow.
Andre always looks like that kid on Fast and Furious who lost his VW Jetta at Race Wars. lol I love Nathan's taunting when he smokes someone.
The thing people seem to overlook about the 5.3 is that on the highway in my experience you can easily get over 30 mpg. I've owned two of them so far, and I'm willing to sacrifice a few ponies for the fact that it's still a pleasure to drive, and I haven't seen any truck that can achieve the mileage numbers the 5.3, at least the ones I own can achieve.
I have a 2020 SLT 4X4 X31 w/the 5.3 and the best MPG I've registered is 22.3. Are you rolling in a single cab, short bed 2X4?
@@jimberg4917 I had a 2016 regular cab short box 4x4, that was great on fuel, and a 2018 crew cab that would also achieve over 30 mpg on long trips. It really depends on your driving style, (I drive like an old lady) and luck of the draw on the truck itself. My work pickup is a 2014 Silverado, and even on long trips the best it ever achieved was about 23 mpg. My 2020 with the dynamic fuel management wasn't as good on fuel as the trucks with the active fuel management for whatever reason, but they were all 4x4.
Haha my 2014 5.3 pushes 18.5 on a GREAT day
I’ve had 3 a14,15,18 and never got over 24mpg
Both Ecoboost engines would smoke the 6.2L in a drag race. Small diesels are designed for towing, not drag racing. Hence, gas is quicker, diesel is better for towing.
6.2L in the trail boss!! Best combo
love mine!
Check mine out
4.3 L 1500 Chevy four-wheel-drive 2014 short box 5.80 to 60 consistently stock from the dealership
Andre, how did you think the 5.3 would stand a chance to the 6.2?
Pause the video between 3:27 and 3:30, the truck is moving by itself. Like the wheels are not moving. Hilarious
Love the drag race, and i would love to see the Raptor against that Chevy 6.2L, that could be interesting. You guys are really great with pure fun content.
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This has to be a bot. Really great and fun? They're cringey
6:30: this is amazing!!! The best sound of all pick-ups here! 😃💪🏼🏆
I wanna see these trucks taken off road!
You mean like on a rollback?
Scroll down their video list. 🤦♂️
Nice vid. You guys rock. I have @ gmc Denali with 6.2. Lots of kick but needed a complete tear down at 120000 km. Under warranty then but not now with Chevy reduced the warranty. And the 8 speed Trans has never shifted right. Twice yesterday at 105 km I floored it. Big Bang before it shifted. Great motor. Horrible truck. First and last Chev.