Thanks to Read And Find Out for coming on! Check out his channel here: ruclips.net/user/ReadAndFindOutCosmere) We may do a podcast on the bonus chapter apparently coming in the newsletter later this week, but we will see. I might also take an extra week off between episodes, putting this one out so quick was a lot! -Eric
I grew up about 20 minutes away from Cosmos, MN. It's where my parents went to highschool! Absolutely surreal to hear you all talk about it. Crazzzzy stuff. The Space Festival is your typical small town celebration: street dance, sweet corn, beer!
the streets needed this collab... we won - both of these channels have pure passion for the cosmere - thank you for sharing it with the rest of us yall!
On the stream at the beginning of the month, he talked about 631 and pointed out a TikTok video, saying it was “interesting”. I found the video (on my wife’s phone, freaking commies) and she had compared him to Taylor swift and had the idea to look at her sixth album, third track, one minute in. The quote was “and I’ll do it over and over again.” She (and I) were fairly convinced this was the intent. Mostly another call back to the comparison between him trolling his fans and her doing the same.
Pretty sure someone compared the maps and said that Emberdark is the Shadesmar equivalent of where Kaladin’s lands are that he was granted. So that might mean something.
The Skybreakers behaving like Nale is kind of the point, I think. Nale is not only the Herald of Skybreakers, he's also a Skybreaker of the Fifth Ideal. He's basically the archetypal Skybreaker. In fact, I think each order save for the Lightweavers, are, in a way, homogenous. Even Szeth, in many ways, act like Nale. He had acted on the orders of the keeper of his Oathstone as Nale acted on behalf of Ishi.
Speaking as someone from a more recently independent colony, I trust Brandon and I think everyone should calm down. He has not given us any reason to doubt him, and he puts a lot more time, care and waaaay more beta research than the average author. I honestly hope he doesn’t spend a lot of time worrying about people getting offended. He’s got good instincts, he’s a decent guy and he has a thorough system.
Because Brandon usually doesn't write morally grey characters at all. All our protagonists are straight heroes, especially Stormlight. Mistborn era 1 is the closest to morally grey we find, but even then Kel and Vin were only as violent as they needed to be to fight against the lord ruler(who is probably the most evil non shard person in the cosmere) and the literal god of destruction Ruin. So Brandon talking about colonialism is a bit scary
@@Mwezi828 present Dalinar didn't remember doing it at all. Since a lot of our identity come from our memories of our actions, the Dalinar in way of kings and wor can't be considered the same person as the guy who burned down the city. Cultivation changed him as a person magically by removing all of his guilt and evi. Not only that Brandon was also sure to include that Dalinar was being heavily effected by the thrill when he made the decisions at the Rift. Much More importantly, even when past Dalinar is morally abhorrent, present Dalinar still is a straight hero. He doesn't make any choice that makes the readers uncomfortable. His present decisions are all very morally unproblematic. Present Dalinar isn't forcefully taking over the planet to protect it, which would feel morally grey, even though he is tempted. Present Dalinar doesn't like democracy or beurocracy but still let's it happen. Venli and Dalinar are on a path of redemption. Which means they are making more unproblematic decisions during the present. A character doing something bad in the past isn't morally grey. A character making grey decisions during the story is morally grey. Venli in RoW is slowly learning to be a radiant, and tries to rescue lift. Brandon never writes any bad people as protagonists. At most, they are on a redemption
Seeing new colors would be useful for the void light with its implications of it being ultraviolet in color, being able to see more of the color spectrum would let lift help learn more about it or something
My thoughts on Starling not being able to change were related to her prologue. The Chekov’s gun there for me was her conversation with Frost about starting out human in their life cycle to have respect for the small. She said she didn’t feel she completely understood that yet. Now she’s exiled and stuck human again. I think she did something harmful to those smaller than dragons and this is her making restitution. And obviously having the character growth to finally understand Uncle Ben’s, I mean Uncle Frost’s, lesson of with great power comes great responsibility.
The discussion on the aviar giving vision in different colors: in Warbreaker, when lightsong says the red lips are nearly the 5th harmonic, in mathematical terms, that only makes sense if the fundamental harmonic is in the infrared spectrum. This new bird could retroactively make that off handed comment make a lot more sense.
I feel like y'all are talking about convoluted flashbacks and rewinds and here is some info but ignore that for a big chunk of the book, but have y'all read stormlight? It starts with a prologue of the heralds, then a prologue of szeth, before launching into several chapters that entirely ignore those first two big things. Plus the whole series scatters flashbacks and cuts and I always think Brandon handles that pretty well. Idk why anyone is concerned about this.
1:02:41 I really wish the colours thing is more than just a heightening thing. For one it doesn't feel appropriate that bonding an Aviar would give you enough investiture to gain a heightening at that level. But more importantly, it's not that cool of a concept. A better power would be the ability to see in UV. Many birds (especially the brightly coloured ones) can do this, and the ability to see in UV or even partially in IR would be super useful for surviving in the wild on those islands. It's a pretty unique power that no other magic system seems to grant and it is much more practical than being able to distinguish slightly different shades of the same colour.
I’ll be writing about this on the forums, because it’s highly relevant to something I’ve already written about. In short though, Lightsong’s comment about that lady’s red lips being a few shades off from the “5th harmonic” only makes sense if the fundamental harmonic is in the infrared spectrum. So this bird enabling vision in the infrared actually retroactively makes that offhanded comment make much more sense
Idk what your problem with the skybreaker in the 3rd chapter is. I hope that radiants in the space era are more like that. Maybe it would make roshar worth rooting for
As someone who has read Sixth of the Dusk I doubt it'll negatively impact my reading experience. Like y'all touched on it does depend on how the flashbacks are implemented, but I'm not going to mind reading the same story again. Especially after going through multiple reads of every full Cosmere novel since reading Sixth for the first time.
Oh boy, I think all I can do is direct you to Feather's rant about this, though I think it might have been on the patron channel... point is, she argues why he's only a sky breaker in name and is mostly doing Windrunner stuff.
Getting the important groundwork down: know who to ship ( : thanks a lot, folks! Really looking forward to this book. Nice to see that Brandon can come up with awesome sounding titles (decidedly not looking at you wind and truth...)
56:00 If the Sleepless can do horrible things to a different planet without a perpendicularity, they must have FTL. 58:00 How do we know the Shards still exist? 59:00 There is ample time for more Shardic unions. Cultivation + Innovation? 1:02:00 The ability depends on species. But multiple species can grant the same ability. 1:03:00 Unless she can see IR and UV or polarization. 1:08:30 We have no idea how long before death the rites must occur. 1:09:30 But why does not everybody on Threnody choose to become a Shade? 1:11:00 Do you age in Shadesmar? She is a resident of Silverlight. 1:13:00 I want the mummies. 1:13:00 Starting to grow sideburns right here and now. 1:14:00 So, why does Frost let his beloved niece become Hoid's apprentice? He has issues with Hoid. 1:14:30 They have saws in the Cosmere. This has to be dragonsteel or a godmetal. 1:17:00 A dragon would not fit into the ship. 1:17:30 Frost is kind of a big deal. Who dares do that to his niece? 1:26:00 Sunlit Man has already shown that there must be a plethora of planets without Shards but a very high amount of Investiture. 1:28:30 It looks to me like spores have a limited lifetime and the tramp freighter can only afford the leftovers. 1:32:30 Transparent. Like air. It looks like glas. It need not be glas. 1:34:00 Add fire aether to the mix and you have a rocket engine. 1:35:00 They lack the metalmind for full FTL. 1:39:00 They have had centuries to study perpendicularities. They may have methods of boosting them. 1:40:30 Sunlit Man had a talking metalmind. 1:47:00 I would have assumed that Dusk uses a ship to travel through Shadesmar. 1:48:00 Investiture can do strange stuff to people 1:49:30 Adonalsium likes crabs.
Have you guys considered that maybe chapters one and two actually take place before sixth of the dusk. I think the flashbacks could start as early as when his mother explains the meaning of his name. Then it could skip to while he's apprenticing with his uncle. He still doesn't have to change sixth of the dusk much. He'll just add context before it. I think that chapters one and two will feature a much younger Dusk
52:25 on the subject of Rosharan magitek, when Brandon introduced the arm fabrial device that mimics lashing in Rhythm of War, my mind immediately envisioned a bunch of iron man like suits that could be mass produced and equipped with various fabrials that mimic many of the Radiant Surges, these could either serve as a "poor man's Radiant" where ordinary folk adorn them and use the fabrials in similar ways but are inherently not as effective or durable as real Radiants, or as supplemental equipment to real Radiants for them to use Surges that their order doesn't have access to, kinda like the female Surgebinder from the Starfalls vision - who i think was a Stoneward - who had a device that used the Surge of Regrowth
My theory with future Cosmere politics is that the factions we are seeing at other planets are the "worst" factions from the planet as they are the ones who would be off planet trying to colonize and benefit from other planets. The nice people either might not have an interest in leaving their home planet or major settlements, or are tied up directly with whatever war is going on and are more directly opposing the other factions. I've been getting the impression that Brandon has been trying to differentiate these colonizer groups from the groups we are familiar with in our current era. The Scadrians reference Southern Scadriap tradition, so maybe it's Southern Scadrial who takes over the Scadrian government in space era or maybe Southern Scadrians are more drawn towards being in the colonizer groups. And maybe for Roshar, the Alethi people are (surprisingly) not the ones so involved in conquering this time. I could be dead wrong but I get the feeling that Brandon is trying to separate the group a bit so it doesn't feel like the direct descendants of the people we read about and love in the current books are the shitty people in the later books.
1:39:19 Couldn't the perpendicularity be made larger by adding more concentrated Dor or some other Investiture? In Lost Metal, they were making one for an army to pass through.
Regarding the new Aviar. I'm thinking that maybe, to make it different from heightenings, it could be the ability to see colors in the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum
Posting unrelated Stormlight Theory here as I want record of coming up with it first: Shallan is a personality of Chanarach! Chanarachis so crazy after all these 1000s of years that she regressed to a child-self. She attempts to come back to sanity, which was viewed by the child-self as an attempt to kill her, and she instead "killed" the past self who "birthed" her. (Hoping the symbolic death is enough to fool the magic and stay consistent with other theories). Making her final truth that she is Chanarach! Maybe this is why it's worth throwing multiple cryptics at her, despite her track record. (for this to work, either the family knows/is confused, or the "mum" light-weaved a fake daughter for a while before the delusion was finalised). EDIT initially used the wrong herald name...
Ok, I have been cooking on the theory further: It would explain why someone so young not only had a Spren, but also managed to progress ideals so very far! Next, you know how Veil was a symbolic name. Well, Radiant is the next delusion, she wants to believe she is a radiant and not a herald.
About that awakened Steelmind ... maybe because it would have steelsight, like an Inquisitor? With enough Investiture it could substitute for sensors like radar?
I was thinking that Awakened metalminds might have access to both sides of the Metallic Arts. I was thinking the Awakened Steelmind probably pushes them for flight and potentially creates a shield around them from basic projectiles.
@BinarySecond I appreciate your concern, but I am only paying 50 dollars. I have enough entertainment money for 50 dollars, I just won't go to the movies as much this year.
I liked the discussion about dragon size and growth/Growth. While we assumed Dragons to just transform, should there not be some cosmere typical magic associated with it? It could be that Dragons "store" growth/Growth until they transform for the first time. Is there investiture involved, also maybe some Aethers or some "individual" non-Invetstiture associated, non-aether type of magic? I also think that a first transformation rather ends up between regular horse and Ryshadium size. Does any of this make sense? (I think I am definitely not considering some WoBs on this, but just wanted to share my thoughts :) )
I thought it was a Windrunner based off the colors Brandon mentioned from the armor initially. Also I think she will probably turn into a dragon during the Sanderlanche.
Is the Emberdark from the map of the sea of lost lights from oathbringer still canon or is it retconned? Is that actually Emberdark? Or its just coincidental? If so at least we know we will learn a little about Rosharan shadesmar space?
Is it confirmed that the flashbacks will be Sixth of the Dusk, rather than just the Sixth of the Dusk sequel? I definitely interpreted what Brandon said as the flashbacks are the Sixth sequel, and we'll meet Dusk in even further future time for the present-day scenes
Cant say Starling is my new favorite, simply because we know basically nothing about her or her story. She's interesting, considering what she is and who she's related to. But still a long way to go before entering the realm of favorites. I guess Tress is now taking a back seat as the old new favorite lol. Just sayin, I've noticed a bit of a trend.
Since naile has been hunting down and destroying people capable of radiance, and he trains the skybreakers to his standards (zeth excluded, his training was more a formality and I wonder how often naile thought of ending him) the only types of skybreakers we are likely to see are like him, and the one exception... zeth, let's hope he dies in book 5 so the order can grow beyond its currently narrow ideals.
Saying why haven't we gotten any Skybreaker who cares about anything other than the law is like saying we want a Windrunner who cares about any other thing than protecting people.
I think the argument would be like, "Where are the Skybreakers who care that all people are treated under the law, the ones who root out corruption" and such, rather than just "oh what are the local laws, I'll use it to justify myself!" So Alyx and Rasarr would feel like there should be Skybreakers who truly believe in the rule of law, that all people are equal under it. Though at least for me I find it weird that the guy isn't like. Restricted by Rosharan law? Wouldn't that supercede local ones, I don't know. -Eric
@17thShard You got a point, but I think the sky breaker has a point, too. If they Join or ally with Roshar, Scadrial eventually will take over that planet. And since apparently Scadrial is the enemy, anyone who joins them becomes they're enemy too. First of the Sun definitely has been thrust into a conflict they don't understand and have to pick a side. Who caused it? The Ones Above. Everything about that chapter implies to me that the Rosharan is trying to undermine Scadrials' expansion efforts
With dragons being immortal they really, really need to be careful not to be breeding with great-great grand uncle's and such. Much potential to go full Heinlein if you're not careful.
The Emberdark stuff is confusing, I'm wondering if he meant we've seen it before but not by that name (maybe where the Ire fort is in Secret History?), rather than him having named it somewhere before. But that still leaves the Shadesmar city, Emberdark. Hrm.
Was it really necessary to put the name of secret project into name of video and the preview epicure? I hoped to not spoil the name for myself until it is released (same as for first 4 secret projects), but it was not possible because first think I see on my youtube page is your preview with the name of the book without any warning that this is regarding the secret project...
Brandon doesn't consider this a spoiler, and honestly, it was impractical as a community to spoiler titles like that. I don't think we will ever spoiler those again. Sorry. -Eric
How hard would it be for Naz to find breath? Hahaha well the Lord Ruler couldn't find any haha. Jks i know breath wasn't invented at the time of mistborn. Shame though. The Lord Ruler really could have benifited from loads of breath (& had the entire resources & army of a whole planet to trade for a thousand years. And he was Cosmere aware & had 2 perpindicularities. Breath agelessness is much better than atium. Makes you immune to illness as well which I suppose doesn't matter with compounding gold
Thanks to Read And Find Out for coming on! Check out his channel here: ruclips.net/user/ReadAndFindOutCosmere)
We may do a podcast on the bonus chapter apparently coming in the newsletter later this week, but we will see.
I might also take an extra week off between episodes, putting this one out so quick was a lot! -Eric
Its hella funny seeing Steve trying to *Contain* himself throughout the video
He is so happy to be here
You're not wrong.
Steve on shardcast?! Hell yeah. This is how I'll be ending my day later on. Thank Ado for a Tuesday surprise episode
Eric + Ian = Steve. I will not be taking questions.
Eric and I are the same font. He's bold and I'm italicized.
I grew up about 20 minutes away from Cosmos, MN. It's where my parents went to highschool!
Absolutely surreal to hear you all talk about it. Crazzzzy stuff. The Space Festival is your typical small town celebration: street dance, sweet corn, beer!
@@mnwildlifecam driven hwy 7 countless times and stopped the Casey's, think it was a cenex before. Wild to hear them talk about cosmos lol
Ooooo I adore Steve!! So happy to see him on here 😊
He was my introduction to the Cosmere !
Hooray!!!
Sixth of the dusk is probably my favorite story in arcanum unbounded and im so glad dusk is a pov character in this
I do like the idea that shadesmar is essentially hyperspace now
Steve was great on here. Always enjoying seeing a guest.
Thanks!
Is there a live reaction of Evgeni hearing the reading ? I want to see his face 😂
I bet he beta read
the streets needed this collab... we won - both of these channels have pure passion for the cosmere - thank you for sharing it with the rest of us yall!
On the stream at the beginning of the month, he talked about 631 and pointed out a TikTok video, saying it was “interesting”. I found the video (on my wife’s phone, freaking commies) and she had compared him to Taylor swift and had the idea to look at her sixth album, third track, one minute in. The quote was “and I’ll do it over and over again.” She (and I) were fairly convinced this was the intent. Mostly another call back to the comparison between him trolling his fans and her doing the same.
i feel like the "shards" swear is also a nod to Dragonriders of Pern, where it was also used as a swear word. Brandon is a big Pern fan after all
Hello everyone and welcome Steve! Love your channel!
Thank you! Thrilled to be here!
Pretty sure someone compared the maps and said that Emberdark is the Shadesmar equivalent of where Kaladin’s lands are that he was granted. So that might mean something.
The Skybreakers behaving like Nale is kind of the point, I think. Nale is not only the Herald of Skybreakers, he's also a Skybreaker of the Fifth Ideal. He's basically the archetypal Skybreaker. In fact, I think each order save for the Lightweavers, are, in a way, homogenous. Even Szeth, in many ways, act like Nale. He had acted on the orders of the keeper of his Oathstone as Nale acted on behalf of Ishi.
It's like they're a codified and highly structured order dedicated to a specific ideal or something
Steve is great. I vote for more Steve.
VOTE 4 STEVE
Always appreciate y'alls work.
Thank you so much! -Eric
Only a Nale clone can use a Nale-Gun
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The Aviar might actually let someone see outside the visible spectrum. So UV and IR and maybep even beyond that.
more Steve on the podcast!
I definitely want him back sometime! -Eric
I am MORE than willing.
Now THIS is the Cosmere crossover I've been waiting for.
Is it 6:3:1 so it can be:
6 - 6th of the Dusk
3 - Hoids third apprentice
1 - in one new novel
This is a perfect hint
This is the greatest crossover in history
Marvel ain't got nothing on us.
Speaking as someone from a more recently independent colony, I trust Brandon and I think everyone should calm down. He has not given us any reason to doubt him, and he puts a lot more time, care and waaaay more beta research than the average author.
I honestly hope he doesn’t spend a lot of time worrying about people getting offended. He’s got good instincts, he’s a decent guy and he has a thorough system.
Because Brandon usually doesn't write morally grey characters at all. All our protagonists are straight heroes, especially Stormlight. Mistborn era 1 is the closest to morally grey we find, but even then Kel and Vin were only as violent as they needed to be to fight against the lord ruler(who is probably the most evil non shard person in the cosmere) and the literal god of destruction Ruin. So Brandon talking about colonialism is a bit scary
@@havewissmart9602 Ummm Dalinar is a war criminal who murdered his wife and Venli’s a traitor who got her whole race killed.
@@Mwezi828 present Dalinar didn't remember doing it at all. Since a lot of our identity come from our memories of our actions, the Dalinar in way of kings and wor can't be considered the same person as the guy who burned down the city. Cultivation changed him as a person magically by removing all of his guilt and evi. Not only that Brandon was also sure to include that Dalinar was being heavily effected by the thrill when he made the decisions at the Rift.
Much More importantly, even when past Dalinar is morally abhorrent, present Dalinar still is a straight hero. He doesn't make any choice that makes the readers uncomfortable. His present decisions are all very morally unproblematic. Present Dalinar isn't forcefully taking over the planet to protect it, which would feel morally grey, even though he is tempted. Present Dalinar doesn't like democracy or beurocracy but still let's it happen.
Venli and Dalinar are on a path of redemption. Which means they are making more unproblematic decisions during the present. A character doing something bad in the past isn't morally grey. A character making grey decisions during the story is morally grey. Venli in RoW is slowly learning to be a radiant, and tries to rescue lift.
Brandon never writes any bad people as protagonists. At most, they are on a redemption
Seeing new colors would be useful for the void light with its implications of it being ultraviolet in color, being able to see more of the color spectrum would let lift help learn more about it or something
I'm so unbelievably excited for this book. My mind was being blown constantly listening to the sample chapters.
My thoughts on Starling not being able to change were related to her prologue. The Chekov’s gun there for me was her conversation with Frost about starting out human in their life cycle to have respect for the small. She said she didn’t feel she completely understood that yet. Now she’s exiled and stuck human again. I think she did something harmful to those smaller than dragons and this is her making restitution. And obviously having the character growth to finally understand Uncle Ben’s, I mean Uncle Frost’s, lesson of with great power comes great responsibility.
The discussion on the aviar giving vision in different colors: in Warbreaker, when lightsong says the red lips are nearly the 5th harmonic, in mathematical terms, that only makes sense if the fundamental harmonic is in the infrared spectrum. This new bird could retroactively make that off handed comment make a lot more sense.
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I feel like y'all are talking about convoluted flashbacks and rewinds and here is some info but ignore that for a big chunk of the book, but have y'all read stormlight? It starts with a prologue of the heralds, then a prologue of szeth, before launching into several chapters that entirely ignore those first two big things. Plus the whole series scatters flashbacks and cuts and I always think Brandon handles that pretty well. Idk why anyone is concerned about this.
1:02:41 I really wish the colours thing is more than just a heightening thing. For one it doesn't feel appropriate that bonding an Aviar would give you enough investiture to gain a heightening at that level. But more importantly, it's not that cool of a concept. A better power would be the ability to see in UV. Many birds (especially the brightly coloured ones) can do this, and the ability to see in UV or even partially in IR would be super useful for surviving in the wild on those islands. It's a pretty unique power that no other magic system seems to grant and it is much more practical than being able to distinguish slightly different shades of the same colour.
I’ll be writing about this on the forums, because it’s highly relevant to something I’ve already written about. In short though, Lightsong’s comment about that lady’s red lips being a few shades off from the “5th harmonic” only makes sense if the fundamental harmonic is in the infrared spectrum. So this bird enabling vision in the infrared actually retroactively makes that offhanded comment make much more sense
I live in MN and Cosmos is like 10 minutes from where my wife grew up. We have absolutely driven through there, several times.
Idk what your problem with the skybreaker in the 3rd chapter is. I hope that radiants in the space era are more like that. Maybe it would make roshar worth rooting for
okay so now we have to add "Cosmos-cast" after "Crem-cast" right?
As someone who has read Sixth of the Dusk I doubt it'll negatively impact my reading experience. Like y'all touched on it does depend on how the flashbacks are implemented, but I'm not going to mind reading the same story again. Especially after going through multiple reads of every full Cosmere novel since reading Sixth for the first time.
As I see it, having it included means I don’t have to re-read/listen to it before the book comes out. All for that.
Nomad/Zellion is a Skybreaker (sort of), so Brandon knows how to write at least 3 Skybreakers
Oh boy, I think all I can do is direct you to Feather's rant about this, though I think it might have been on the patron channel... point is, she argues why he's only a sky breaker in name and is mostly doing Windrunner stuff.
Getting the important groundwork down: know who to ship ( : thanks a lot, folks! Really looking forward to this book. Nice to see that Brandon can come up with awesome sounding titles (decidedly not looking at you wind and truth...)
56:00 If the Sleepless can do horrible things to a different planet without a perpendicularity, they must have FTL.
58:00 How do we know the Shards still exist?
59:00 There is ample time for more Shardic unions. Cultivation + Innovation?
1:02:00 The ability depends on species. But multiple species can grant the same ability.
1:03:00 Unless she can see IR and UV or polarization.
1:08:30 We have no idea how long before death the rites must occur.
1:09:30 But why does not everybody on Threnody choose to become a Shade?
1:11:00 Do you age in Shadesmar? She is a resident of Silverlight.
1:13:00 I want the mummies.
1:13:00 Starting to grow sideburns right here and now.
1:14:00 So, why does Frost let his beloved niece become Hoid's apprentice? He has issues with Hoid.
1:14:30 They have saws in the Cosmere. This has to be dragonsteel or a godmetal.
1:17:00 A dragon would not fit into the ship.
1:17:30 Frost is kind of a big deal. Who dares do that to his niece?
1:26:00 Sunlit Man has already shown that there must be a plethora of planets without Shards but a very high amount of Investiture.
1:28:30 It looks to me like spores have a limited lifetime and the tramp freighter can only afford the leftovers.
1:32:30 Transparent. Like air. It looks like glas. It need not be glas.
1:34:00 Add fire aether to the mix and you have a rocket engine.
1:35:00 They lack the metalmind for full FTL.
1:39:00 They have had centuries to study perpendicularities. They may have methods of boosting them.
1:40:30 Sunlit Man had a talking metalmind.
1:47:00 I would have assumed that Dusk uses a ship to travel through Shadesmar.
1:48:00 Investiture can do strange stuff to people
1:49:30 Adonalsium likes crabs.
Have you guys considered that maybe chapters one and two actually take place before sixth of the dusk. I think the flashbacks could start as early as when his mother explains the meaning of his name. Then it could skip to while he's apprenticing with his uncle. He still doesn't have to change sixth of the dusk much. He'll just add context before it. I think that chapters one and two will feature a much younger Dusk
Ala was the best best Whose that cosmere character EVER!!!
i just realised with naz this is the third secret project with an undead main character along with yumi and Aux
52:25 on the subject of Rosharan magitek, when Brandon introduced the arm fabrial device that mimics lashing in Rhythm of War, my mind immediately envisioned a bunch of iron man like suits that could be mass produced and equipped with various fabrials that mimic many of the Radiant Surges, these could either serve as a "poor man's Radiant" where ordinary folk adorn them and use the fabrials in similar ways but are inherently not as effective or durable as real Radiants, or as supplemental equipment to real Radiants for them to use Surges that their order doesn't have access to, kinda like the female Surgebinder from the Starfalls vision - who i think was a Stoneward - who had a device that used the Surge of Regrowth
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Yes, Steve!
I finally made it!
i've driven through Cosmos multiple times!
Can we get a Skybreaker public defender type. I want Skybreaker Phoenix Wright dammit!
2 and a half hour shardcast, it's a birthday present for me
So. Excited. Needed this at work today. Who cares about inventory this weekend? Shardcast is out!
As somebody who watched the White Sand episodes without reading it, I can indeed confirm that they are more entertaining that way
I am SO ready for the hard-hitting Tamu Kek lore that we are sure to get in Isles of the Emberdark
I want more Steve on 17th Shard!!! RAFO
Let's give the people what they want!
I and Steve are clearly on the same wavelength because the moment he guessed Sher for the "this character has no last name" I guessed Madonna :D
My theory with future Cosmere politics is that the factions we are seeing at other planets are the "worst" factions from the planet as they are the ones who would be off planet trying to colonize and benefit from other planets. The nice people either might not have an interest in leaving their home planet or major settlements, or are tied up directly with whatever war is going on and are more directly opposing the other factions. I've been getting the impression that Brandon has been trying to differentiate these colonizer groups from the groups we are familiar with in our current era. The Scadrians reference Southern Scadriap tradition, so maybe it's Southern Scadrial who takes over the Scadrian government in space era or maybe Southern Scadrians are more drawn towards being in the colonizer groups. And maybe for Roshar, the Alethi people are (surprisingly) not the ones so involved in conquering this time. I could be dead wrong but I get the feeling that Brandon is trying to separate the group a bit so it doesn't feel like the direct descendants of the people we read about and love in the current books are the shitty people in the later books.
I still think the Captain is the Crow from Tress.
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@@TheCosmerenaut I was just surprised and excited to see you on here. It took me about 5 seconds to realize this isn't where I normally watch you :D
OMG hello Steve!
Hi!
2:09:44 The spren was Design. ;)
They figured it out! I am just an idiot a lot of the time. -Eric
In the new version of the chapter the skybreaker explicitly calls the ones above Scadrians, which i don't think was the case with the original
Cosmere Star Trek, I can't wait 🎉
Wait, what is Words of Radiance ending retcon??😮
Originally Kaladin killed Szeth. In the new one, probably what you read, Kaladin just sliced off his hands and he fell in the storm.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE secret society tier list!!! Yes please
Been waiting for this one!
When all you have is a shardjammer, every skybreaker looks like a Nale.
I may be off on this but I believe thats updated pronouns for ENE from he/she to he him. hope thats going well for him.
1:39:19 Couldn't the perpendicularity be made larger by adding more concentrated Dor or some other Investiture? In Lost Metal, they were making one for an army to pass through.
This seems very reasonable.
I find it interesting this reading cut the mention of Tenth the Finder who I have been curious about since the original reading.
Regarding the new Aviar. I'm thinking that maybe, to make it different from heightenings, it could be the ability to see colors in the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum
Posting unrelated Stormlight Theory here as I want record of coming up with it first:
Shallan is a personality of Chanarach!
Chanarachis so crazy after all these 1000s of years that she regressed to a child-self.
She attempts to come back to sanity, which was viewed by the child-self as an attempt to kill her, and she instead "killed" the past self who "birthed" her. (Hoping the symbolic death is enough to fool the magic and stay consistent with other theories).
Making her final truth that she is Chanarach!
Maybe this is why it's worth throwing multiple cryptics at her, despite her track record.
(for this to work, either the family knows/is confused, or the "mum" light-weaved a fake daughter for a while before the delusion was finalised).
EDIT initially used the wrong herald name...
Ok, I have been cooking on the theory further:
It would explain why someone so young not only had a Spren, but also managed to progress ideals so very far!
Next, you know how Veil was a symbolic name. Well, Radiant is the next delusion, she wants to believe she is a radiant and not a herald.
Midweek shardcast!? My week is made
About that awakened Steelmind ... maybe because it would have steelsight, like an Inquisitor? With enough Investiture it could substitute for sensors like radar?
I was thinking that Awakened metalminds might have access to both sides of the Metallic Arts.
I was thinking the Awakened Steelmind probably pushes them for flight and potentially creates a shield around them from basic projectiles.
Prosperity could be a location, or maybe we've had some more shards fusing, like with Harmony, or splintering/shattering.
The reason I ended up buying into this crowd funding this time around, even though I am in debt. Just getting the SP. It can afford 50.
Yeah, makes sense. Also, we read a WTCC of yours on this one! -Eric
Wow awesome. I am so excited to read that. 😊
Honestly if you in debt don't do this
@BinarySecond I appreciate your concern, but I am only paying 50 dollars. I have enough entertainment money for 50 dollars, I just won't go to the movies as much this year.
@@evelynbasham1673 ok, you know your own business better than I. I wish you well
I liked the discussion about dragon size and growth/Growth. While we assumed Dragons to just transform, should there not be some cosmere typical magic associated with it? It could be that Dragons "store" growth/Growth until they transform for the first time. Is there investiture involved, also maybe some Aethers or some "individual" non-Invetstiture associated, non-aether type of magic? I also think that a first transformation rather ends up between regular horse and Ryshadium size. Does any of this make sense? (I think I am definitely not considering some WoBs on this, but just wanted to share my thoughts :) )
There’s a town on Michigan called Hell
I almost mentioned that!
I thought it was a Windrunner based off the colors Brandon mentioned from the armor initially.
Also I think she will probably turn into a dragon during the Sanderlanche.
Is the Emberdark from the map of the sea of lost lights from oathbringer still canon or is it retconned? Is that actually Emberdark? Or its just coincidental? If so at least we know we will learn a little about Rosharan shadesmar space?
Are Skybreakers the only Knights that can travel off-world? So far they are the only ones we've seen, right?
Is it confirmed that the flashbacks will be Sixth of the Dusk, rather than just the Sixth of the Dusk sequel? I definitely interpreted what Brandon said as the flashbacks are the Sixth sequel, and we'll meet Dusk in even further future time for the present-day scenes
Yes, the go SotD is included.
Nomad is a pretty good skybreaker kind of
I have been waiting for this.
I’m guessing the aviar is heat vision or infrared
Cant say Starling is my new favorite, simply because we know basically nothing about her or her story. She's interesting, considering what she is and who she's related to. But still a long way to go before entering the realm of favorites. I guess Tress is now taking a back seat as the old new favorite lol. Just sayin, I've noticed a bit of a trend.
“[The Lord Ruler] he is a flaw guy, I guess.” -Eric
What?! I need to see some evidence here.
What if starling doesn’t get her dragon form back at all in this book? Maybe Brandon is saving that for the kite story.
Just re-read 6th of the Dust. The audiobook is only 2 hours. Did you say it's 17,000 words?
Yep, that's right. On average 10k words is about an hour of audiobook time. -Eric
Since naile has been hunting down and destroying people capable of radiance, and he trains the skybreakers to his standards (zeth excluded, his training was more a formality and I wonder how often naile thought of ending him) the only types of skybreakers we are likely to see are like him, and the one exception... zeth, let's hope he dies in book 5 so the order can grow beyond its currently narrow ideals.
Is it just me or is Isles of the ember dark grammatically incorrect. Shouldn’t it be Isles in the ember dark
Why.......... is it not Nale?
Well, it seemed like a singer, mostly. -Eric
@@17thShard i did not get that at all lol, will have to read the transcript
I mean I like Starling, don't get me wrong, but she does feel like a certain variety of YA protagonist that is not rare or anything.
Saying why haven't we gotten any Skybreaker who cares about anything other than the law is like saying we want a Windrunner who cares about any other thing than protecting people.
I think the argument would be like, "Where are the Skybreakers who care that all people are treated under the law, the ones who root out corruption" and such, rather than just "oh what are the local laws, I'll use it to justify myself!" So Alyx and Rasarr would feel like there should be Skybreakers who truly believe in the rule of law, that all people are equal under it.
Though at least for me I find it weird that the guy isn't like. Restricted by Rosharan law? Wouldn't that supercede local ones, I don't know. -Eric
@17thShard You got a point, but I think the sky breaker has a point, too.
If they Join or ally with Roshar, Scadrial eventually will take over that planet. And since apparently Scadrial is the enemy, anyone who joins them becomes they're enemy too.
First of the Sun definitely has been thrust into a conflict they don't understand and have to pick a side.
Who caused it? The Ones Above.
Everything about that chapter implies to me that the Rosharan is trying to undermine Scadrials' expansion efforts
@@benarkos539 Undermine it by offering them a slightly-less-bad form of colonialism where FotS is still just a vassal planet of Roshar.
@godminnette2 They offered to allow them gain status and elevation so.... idk
@@benarkos539 By supplying bodies to fight in Roshar's wars. It is still colonialism, lmao.
I liked "6th of the Dusk".
With dragons being immortal they really, really need to be careful not to be breeding with great-great grand uncle's and such. Much potential to go full Heinlein if you're not careful.
Me yelling Yumi in my car.
The Emberdark stuff is confusing, I'm wondering if he meant we've seen it before but not by that name (maybe where the Ire fort is in Secret History?), rather than him having named it somewhere before. But that still leaves the Shadesmar city, Emberdark. Hrm.
Was it really necessary to put the name of secret project into name of video and the preview epicure? I hoped to not spoil the name for myself until it is released (same as for first 4 secret projects), but it was not possible because first think I see on my youtube page is your preview with the name of the book without any warning that this is regarding the secret project...
Brandon doesn't consider this a spoiler, and honestly, it was impractical as a community to spoiler titles like that. I don't think we will ever spoiler those again. Sorry. -Eric
How hard would it be for Naz to find breath? Hahaha well the Lord Ruler couldn't find any haha. Jks i know breath wasn't invented at the time of mistborn. Shame though. The Lord Ruler really could have benifited from loads of breath (& had the entire resources & army of a whole planet to trade for a thousand years. And he was Cosmere aware & had 2 perpindicularities.
Breath agelessness is much better than atium. Makes you immune to illness as well which I suppose doesn't matter with compounding gold
where's my 3 hour April Fools podcast of fake WoBs?
Everyone: “Finally the Cosmere dragons!! Dragon stories, space ships. Yay, we’re here….”
Me: “Oh alright cool, dragons are cool” *me enjoying Chasmfiends and other giant crustaceans instead………….