That is a hugely important lesson to learn: that a single cop can do what he wishes in front of other cops who, even if they are better aware of the situation, feel powerless to intervene. A chilling lesson indeed, and worth your hanging around for. A few seeds of doubt have surely been planted in minds - not only your viewers, but in the young policemen with whom you were enjoying a civil and cordial conversation.
Where does this terminology ‘detained’ come from? Far too many Police watching ‘American Cop Shows’. AB, was placed in handcuffs. Why? Was he actually arrested? If so, why was AB not given the ‘CAUTION’. Regarding his ‘RIGHTS’. Can a person be handcuffed in this situation? I thought handcuffs could only be used if an offender was violent, threatened violence or suspected of ‘ABSCONDING’. In which case, putting a person in chains is not lawful. AB, you need to seek legal advice. This malpractice by the Police must be stopped. Automatically putting a person in chains is unacceptable. This is not the USA. This is what happens when a politician is imposed on the Police as is with an elected Police Crime commissioner’. Get rid. Frank
@@stuartb4525 Cognitive bias. You're being virtually brainwashed but lapping it up. Slurp slurp lol, it's a bit pathetic. It equates to school playground mentality.
That's why they was all asking questions, there's no such thing as a conversation with the police if they suspect you, its all an inquiry, all these questions was just bait
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you put yourself at risk and you educate a lot of police officers about their code of conduct and the general public about their rights as most of us we don't know them when it comes to interaction with the police. You Sir , are a real hero ! Thank you !
You have got it in one,it's time for us all to lookout for each other when we see and are involved in situations like this,to stand up for the rights of each other,by doing so this kind of behaviour can be wiped out completely.
But the two other educated talkitive cops get the promotions while ignoring such abuse and saying they oppose it and then doing nothing when it happens in front of them.
@Dave 2020 You have got to be kidding yourself on,if you think that was good policing, I think the response to this Vlog speaks volumes for itself, you want to burst your bubble and breath in the truth of reality, there is no defence for such behavior at any time.
He literally said " if you don't give me your details, I will detain you ". That is explicitly forbidden in the pace code of practice. There is no ambiguity about this incident, it is clearly a corrupt or otherwise improper exercise of a police power or privilege. Basically, if you insist on exercising your right to privacy, I'm just going to take it from you by force. Then I'm going to assume that my Inspector is as bent as me and has zero moral or ethical standards.
Excessive force, abuse of powers and several acts. This could be a very lucrative claim that puts a black mark against that nazi and the two sympathisers stopping them getting promotion. I’d be calling crimebodge in
I only hope the worse for this moron .And I mean this in the most sincere and diabolical way I can in this forum . Hope he does not have a wife or children as they are in danger.
Why did the cop walk away for 15 minutes then come back and detain under S43 when he could have done it straight away? Clearly he's not too smart and went away to check his powers.
COPS HAVE NO POWER JUST AUTHORITY AND CAN ONLY USE IT WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH CRIME/CRIMINAL OR HAVE RAS TO BELIEVE CRIME MAY BE AFOOT. FILMING ALONE DOES NOT COUNT AS RAS AS IT IS A LAWFUL ACTIVITY. WHEN SEARCHING UNDER THE TERRORIST ACT THEY MUST SAY WHAT THEY EXPECT TO FIND IE BOMBS OR BOMB MATERIAL, WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION ETC., ETC. THEY MUST HAVE A CLEAR REASON THAT THIS MAN HAS SUCH ITEMS ON HIM SUCH AS, HE WAS SEEN TO HAVE THEM BY SOMEONE, WHO REPORTED HIM, HIS DESCRIPTION FITS A KNOWN TERRORIST EYC. THAT COP HAD NOTHING.
Blondie was feeding him information. She was talking on the radio to someone (possibly him). Then, she is called over the radio and disappears behind the gate. I believe she conspired with the tyrant which explains why she flipped during the arrest.
What pisses me off is he knew what you were doing but could not cope with your non compliance. Terrible, I’d be ashamed of myself is I was that arresting officer. Disgusting!
I think you are giving PC James and his two colleagues more credit than they deserve they were just playing good cop to his bad cop to keep you there until he came back and searched you, they knew what was going to happen they were part of it.
You don't know Luton police station and places like it. The office with the attitude has all the power James on the other has to go with it or he will have problems from all the other officers. The one in the hijab is not comfortable in her working environment that's why she ended up leaving the force
AB, you should get MBE for this public information and awareness service . Honestly ,you are elevating this nation public moral high. We need more people like you in the 21st century and beyond. Well done, and keep doing. A big thank you.❤
Yeah your Bob on the mate that’s what Blondie Went inside far she probably got the worst copper in there who is known for beating & assaulting old-age pensioners and teenagers who sit in the park on a Friday and Saturday Night with a couple of cans of lager to come out and stitch you up she was probably the tadle tale when she was in school because she was a late bloomer LOL bang out of order
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times... YOU CAN NOT TRUST THE POLICE. Tell them nothing and do not interact. They're all as bad as each other, even the "nice" ones. Disgraceful behaviour !
I've been saying for the past forty years: _"There's no such thing as good cops, because if there were, there wouldn't be any bad cops!"_ And this video went a long way to prove just that!
Well said. You are 100% spot on. If the guys are encouraging and not correcting bad behaviour of their fellow cops, they are as guilty as the one abusing the law and our human rights. The term for this is, accomplice.
I sent a complaint as follows:- "A man was filming outside of Luton Police Station. PC 6474 used the Terrorism Act as a means to handcuff and try to get the details of the man lawfully filming in public. He refused to give a document to say he'd searched the man unless the man identified himself. I would ask why is it that police personnel still do not know the law regarding filming in public despite memos circulating from police chiefs saying it's lawful? Why are police personnel still misusing the Terrorism Act?"
@Replying is futile IOPC would be unlikely to even look at his complaint, let alone find in favour. They only really look at incidents of DSI (Death and Serious Injury) or cases of gross misconduct. This sort of complaint would be dealt with in house by the police themselves.
@Replying is futile He could appeal an investigation that did not find in his favour, but I magine they would not find in his favour for a second time (watch my uploads about the response to my complaint based on virtually the same use of sec 43 powers without reasonable suspicion to get an idea of how they justify it). So the only remedy would be to bring a civil action for false imprisonment (trespass to goods and assualt are usually thrown in too, if property is searched, and cuffs are used, or you are grabbed). In this civil case, based on case law, all one has to do is prove he was detained, and that the detainment was unlawful. Proving he was detained is easy. Was he free to leave? Once he proves he was detained the burden of proof pases to the defendant (the police) to prove that the actions were justified and lawful. Unfortunately, I think it would be difficult (although not impossible) to get a court to agree that the detainment was 'unreasonable'. You and I may realise that it was, but it is another matter to convince a court that it was. Especially since it surrounds terrorism powers. The courts would, IMO, be unlikely to wamt to be seen to bring a judgememt which might be seen to hinder the police's powers to combat those dreaded bogeymen called terrorists. Once the head of claim of false imprisonment fails, so the others fail on the back of it. Would make for an interesting case mind, and expensive. You'd be unlikely to get any legal help for free. You could try and do it yourself, but be prepared to have to sit down and learn the way to procede through the civil courts.
The cops butt got hurt and his ego took overhand. Suddenly his feelings very more important than the law. He should be fired, plain and simple. I wouldn't trust him to clean my toilet.
This is a total embarrassment that this could occur in Great Britain. I am so sorry to have seen this happen to you. No good deed goes unpunished. I would be ashamed if he was my friend. His actions would end our friendship. AB is a good man and did not warrant being abused. AB, I usually end my comments with one red flower for you. This view . . . 💐🌺💐🌸💐
John, sorry to nick pick. But Great Britain is not a Country. It’s a term to describe a landmass. This incident happened in a Country called ‘England’, sadly, in my Country, England. Frank
@@AuditingBritain These cops in CLOWN suit have no power at all and NO RESPECT at all The MOST DeGraded and WORST LOW CLASS. Third Grade Worst than Garbage picking job IS being a COP I THINK
only recently found these types of videos and what an eye opener, iv binged for hours on your videos and find myself compelled to watch them all, like and subscribe to support you in the amazing work your doing. i dont need to comment on the video i feel exactly the same as the majority of the comments. your mannerism and the way you conduct yourself is an example for all. keep up the good work im here for the whole ride.
Whenever I see cops standing back and allowing a tyrant to abuse a citizen these words by Martin Niemöller always spring to mind. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. The two BAME officers should be completely conversant with this tyrants behaviour and would be shouting at the top of their voices if AB was a member of the BAME community. Shame on both of them.
@@dantaylor5939 you can, they just choose not to. It was the same in the US when George Floyd was killed. One policeman killed him but there were many more who stood around watching and doing nothing. If we're not careful the UK could end up the same way if behaviour like this isn't challenged. It's all very well saying it's just a few bad apples but if the good apples don't do anything then they're just as guilty.
Copy of letter sent below. Dear Mr Forsyth, WITHOUT PREJUDICE DICTATED A RUclips video was brought to my attention today, entitled stand-off outside Luton police station, part 2. Let me begin by asking if police stations and other publicly funded buildings in England, are exempt from photography. Or, are there any laws on the statute books which specifically denies a citizen the right to point a camera in the direction of such a buildings? I am deeply disturbed by the behaviour of the police officers who interacted with the videographer in this video. Especially officer 6474. It is clear that the videographer had broken no laws ( the officers agreed to that point) and that none of the officers had “reasonable grounds” under the prevention of terrorism act, to genuinely suspect him of being involved in terrorist activities. The act of photography, alone, no matter which direction you point your camera in, cannot be sufficient grounds for a serious charge such as terrorism. If that were so, then every tourist who stands outside the MI5 building in London taking pictures of that building, simply because they’ve seen it in a James Bond film, would be behind bars. It seems likely that the treatment this citizen received, was as a result of behaviour that is often referred to in America as, contempt of cop. Not answering questions of a police officer, is not a crime. Provided that you are behaving completely lawfully. Your officers reacted to a citizen that declined to give up his personal details for no reason, as if that automatically made him guilty of a crime for which they had the powers of arrest and search. It was as if the very foundation of our legal system had been reversed. Namely that the citizen is guilty until they prove their innocence.. THE USE OF CAMERAS IN PUBLIC. There are 627,000 CCTV cameras in London alone and between 14 to16 million of them in the country as a hole, According to government statistics, by 2022 there will be 54 million smart phones in circulation all of which have video cameras and the police and TFL use ANPR cameras recording cars and people by the millions every day. And last year the police announced that they are rolling out facial recognition camera vans into our streets to video random passing faces of the public. It seems to me that the government regards photography as a perfectly legal activity. As legal as walking a dog or going shopping. The law makes no distinction between any of these activities. There is an estimated 10 million dash cameras fitted to trucks and cars ( including police cars ) constantly recording all over the country. And finally, citizen journalism is a firmly established fact of present day life (as mentioned in a letter from Andrew Potter, Chair of the ACPO, now named, NPCC, in 2010) and footage from citizens smart phones, of crimes is often sought by the police as evidence. The police often appeal for citizens footage to help solve crimes. You can’t have it both ways. It seems to me that the government regards photography as a perfectly legal activity. As legal as walking a dog or going shopping. That being the case, what is it about this ONE camera in the hand of this citizen outside a police station (that we pay for) that entitled these offers to interrupt his peace and freedom to conduct what amounts to a police interview on the roadside with no opportunity for him to seek advice or council. Then they accuse him of being a terrorist, and put him through the indignity of a body search on the pavement. And if it’s because he pointed his camera briefly at a police station, can you tell me if police stations are exempt from photography and what other buildings in the country have special no photography status. Better still, may I have a list please? Further, may I also have a list, detailing any other rights that I have as a citizen, which police officers are entitled to trample on based on their emotions and feelings rather than law. FULL DISCLOSURE. I have spent 30 years working in the media and will not be fobbed off with an email that does not seriously address the points that I have raised and either defends the officers actions with legal reasoning and justification or accepts that errors were made. And please address the inactions of his colleagues who did nothing to prevent this clear breach of civil rights taking place. There was no crime afoot here and the officers involved clearly stated that this citizen had not broken any laws on several occasions. Lastly, I think it is clear to all who view this video that there is a serious lack of training, ability and knowledge in all the police officers connected to this event. Especially officer, shoulder number 6474. This reflects on poor leadership. To put it bluntly and to use an old phrase, the fish stinks from the head. So please explain to me what you will be doing in the future to ensure that police officers are better trained on the rights of citizens, particularly in the area of photography from a public place. Regardless of their personal opinions as to this lawful activity. And also what will be done to train police officers on the proportionality of the reaction to photographers and the necessary deescalation techniques which must be part of all officer training. This officer escalated this encounter, just because his ego is bruised. He use the prevention of terrorism act to try and find a form of ID in the pockets of the citizen, Just because the citizen declined to give up his details. That is clear for everybody to see. And remember this video is forever, it will not go away. It would be wise to train police officers so that the Internet does not end up with a plethora of similar videos in the future. It would be extremely unwise if the police made any attempt to have this video taken down. As that would be a clear admission of guilt. And I can almost guarantee that the video would resurface on other platforms anyway. Because that’s what usually happens in the circumstances. Mr Reidy QBE PS. Many millions of men and women gave up their lives in two world wars so that we could live in a society where jackbooted police officers don’t walk up to citizens and demand “Papers please”. The behaviour of this officer and his colleagues denigrates all of those people who sacrificed so much for our freedom and is reminiscent of the behaviour found by the bully boy thugs who worked the streets of Berlin in the 1930s. This kind of abuse of civil rights has no place in our society.
Hi, thanks for your comment, and yes, you’re right in that anyone who thinks the police will investigate themselves on any matter without a predisposed policy of doing everything possible to support the officer/s and reject any complaints, is a fool. But then I ask myself, what I should do? Nothing? Perhaps, but if I were a chief constable and every day, I received more and more complaints from citizens about the behaviour of my officers, it would start to grate on my nerves. And in an age where social media seems to carry so much weight, perhaps pressure there, can have an effect. I certainly don’t pretend to have all the answers. But,many of the historical problems in our society took root and grew in size, because people did nothing. If enough British citizens complain about the poor behaviour of police officers then over time, and in the far distant future we may bring about reform and change. These things can take a generation to turn around. But as a great Greek philosopher once said. “A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in”
I was just listening to this, and I honestly thought it had gone to a different video as the detaining officer came up and changed EVERYTHING. These young police officers learned EXACTLY what you were talking about and why you were out there doing what you were doing. Insane. Absolutely insane.
19.22 'Am I being detained?' 'You will be in a minute if you don't let me finish'. NO OFFICER. That's not how this is meant to work. You don't get to detain people because they won't listen to you. That kinda pissed me off, to be honest.
Clearly from officer Tyrant 'You will be in a minute if you don't let me finish' and immediately detaining AB he is a liar. Whatever was said, not said, done, or not done he was going to detain AB!
Biggest mistake on your part was becoming to chummy with them. They lulled you into a false sense of relaxation and then they struck. Not trying to attack you, just observing the strategy and tactics used. When you challenge people with power, they will never willingly let you get away with it.
Yeah I wonder if on another day he would have played it differently. It didn't make sense that bully boy would have gone away for that long only to come out and say see you later.
@@simmer484 went in try find out what he could do him for. And see also if can found out who he is on computer national database. See if he got criminal record wanted etc. Cops all about the power. Power corrupts.
@@michaelg3463 I honestly would have told the black pc and the pc wearing the headscarf that they are worse because they knew but stood by and especially given the fact that their ethnicity/background makes them a more likely target for abuse. If people won't stand up for what's right, then they are just as bad or worse. AB was very brave and righteous in how he was polite and conversive.
@@michaelg3463 how exactly is he going to find him on any database if he doesn't know his name? What's he gonna enter for a name. Man staanding outside police station with a camera?
The cops weren’t really making casual conversation, a lot of what they were saying was probing questions about AB’s background. The male cop was acting the nice guy to get AB to open up. Basically cops are never your friend when they stop you.
He was totally out of order. He needs a psych to test him on his IQ and EQ. You stayed calm. And it's normal that you where stunned by the unlawfull arrest on that vid. And he's a full on tyrant.
They select for average to low IQ / EQ. Anyone of above average intelligence could not do it. The police don't protect the public, they protect their tyrannical masters (corporations and government). AB is helping those who haven't already worked that out to see it.
@@stienogamez8296 the others were told to hold him there pretending to be nice, cops are not nice to people unless they want something, that ear piece james had would of been telling him to keep him chatting while I get warrant for his arrest approval. Scum they all are.
Its amazing that you told those "cops" exactly what happens...and they said " I would report an officer acted like that" did they?? No because when dealing with pigs you usually get shit on you.
They may have reported after but we can not know but I would say as they did try to advise the office who is their senior but he ignored them probably have brought it to the attention of another superior. So let's not jump to conclusions as there is no way to know.
Beyond the complaint against this abuse, I really want to thank you, dear AB, for showing us clearly how small some people with temporary great power can be. A big hug from the Colosseum. YO.
“I will detain you if you refuse to give me your details” - well right there, that’s where it went from 0-100. This is perhaps one of the worst abuse of powers as part of a photography audit I’ve seen in the UK. So many laws broken by the police and complete lack of proportionality in every sense. I really am sorry this has happened, but equally now that it has PLEASE keep us constantly updated on your complaint and follow this up in the courts with a civil suit at the minimum - unless tyrants like that police officer get a summons in the post, and realise saying “see you in court” wasn’t an empty threat, they will simply do this again to someone else.
Sorry to disillusion you, but I strongly suspect “James” was in on it. I’m not absolutely positive about it, but he was receiving communications all the time it was going on, it is difficult to believe they would not have kept him in the loop as to what was going on. I strongly believe he had been instructed to keep you talking until hitler got back ( he looked like he had a hitler moustache in some of your shots). I think the lady in the hijab was the only one that was not really part of it. The other two repeatedly kept looking over at the gates for that miserable streak of shit to return and grind you under his jackboot. He really had the look of somebody that was bullied relentlessly at school and joined up for his ego and to get his own back on anybody he comes across. That blondie has probably gone through all the males like a dose of salts, shamelessly using her looks to lull people into a sense of false security, pathetic, the way she giggles and smarms “are you filming us”. This really upset me, it bought back all the negative interactions I’ve had with police over the years ( not had that many at all, but more have been negative than positive), it reinforced that feeling of disconnect and mistrust, you should allow people to mirror this video as the perfect example of why you should never take how police act on face value, always suspect an ulterior motive. This is coming from someone that would love to be able to respect the police, after all, they are meant to be there for you in your time of need, unfortunately this gets corrupted into a cancerous malignancy resulting in the scenario we have just seen played out.
Agreed he has a earphone connected which is their way of recieving internal comms without anyone else hearing. The way he's acting it looks like he's being instructed through the ear piece to keep him talking. Don't forget being right outside a police station gated entrance for vehicles it will be full of cameras so the control room are watching everything unfold
100% he was in on it, he needs to prove himself and he's vain and doesn't want to look bad on video, they were all in on it, typical good cop bad cop tactic and sadly AB fell for it.
He's not a monster. '....It is the nature and disposition of almost all men that as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion' Doctrine & Covenants 121:39. There'll be thousands or millions of people who would do the same, they're not monsters, they probably don't realise they're doing it, they're in ignorance or forgetfull of this principle.
They should feel so ashamed of themselves abusing their powers and rights when real crimes are taking place. That's why we have zero confidence in the police after these encounters and far worse unfortunately. You deserve a medal putting up with this bollocks 👏 thankfully AB you are highlighting a significant problem with the old bill.
The arresting officer got permission from the custody sergeant. He missed the conversation where you gave the information on your channel. The others just stand by and allow the law to be broken. Typical police. Great videos.
@@MJbestMJbest I've no doubt that happened. So the two newbies saw real policing, which is , " we can do whatever we want, petty much . It's thier choice to stay in that corrupt gang .
Exactly the reason I use a burner phone and not my main personal phone AB. You were clearly assaulted and unlawfully searched under the terrorism act which can't be used just for not giving your name. This officer and his chief inspector need to compensate you, especially for the actual bodily harm caused by the assault with handcuffs. Wish I lived closer to you TBH.
@@AuditingBritain Civil claim is the only way these idiots learn anything. If you're gonna be a chef then it makes sense to learn how to cook first. Police should learn how to correctly use the legislation before unlawfully implementing it. They knew full well you're not a terrorist yet chose to abuse the legislation anyway because they were butt hurt you didn't comply with giving them your name, simple as that.
@@PINACI If you compare a trainee chef in a kitchen to this bunch in the police force then these guys have yet to work out how to get the tin opener out of the draw.
This was painful to watch AB, I really hope this goes further, an apology would be a nice place to start but I think compensation would make the police think twice about abusing law abiding citizens
The compensation comes from you me and everyone else aka taxpayer's certainly not them that's why it means fuck all to them they don't care qualified immunity for this lot
I can not see any compo been given look at people that have been in prison for some thing they have not done and after 20 years and then not found gilt all they get is a sorry and here is £10,000 if you are lucky this is ENGLAND for you he must have been a bully in school or more a kid that got picked on and now he just like to intimidate people and threaten them I have been arrested more time than i can remember nothing is ever happened and only been charged in court for one Crime that I was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time the police also decided to kick down my door drag me out of bed make a scene in my neighborhood for a crime of making off without payment in a blue Audi when I don't even have a car at the time i think i was about 18 years old the description when I was six and a half tall black man with dreadlocks when I'm really 5-ft tall short heir and tanned and then after seeing the CCTV footage they wondered why I got angry in the interview and said you expect me to become when it's and we don't know we haven't do the footage yet then there was armed robbery in Hyde Park in Leeds when I live in Wakefield district and my getaway vehicle was a push bike went back and to court for 2 years and not found guilty and apparently a number of phone calls were made anonymously saying it was me thetab.com/uk/leeds/2015/02/23/man-robbed-13987/comment-page-69
Disgusting behaviour....he didn’t even have a quiet word with the two officers who had been interacting with you for the last 30 mins. Surely they would have been in the best position to determine if they felt you were a threat in anyway. I am also disgusted that they did nothing at all to de-escalate the situation. They stood by and allowed you to be treated unfairly. Where is their passion for social justice and balancing of power. I will be complaining for you AB. I love how calm you are and so articulate. Their actions go against the policies that the MET have in place about public filming and photography. You CAN film a police station you CAN film in the lobby. You just can’t access restricted areas to film there. You should start a movement All Auditors lives Matter!
Just a game of dominance, he did not like the fact you were not listening to his orders, he never questioned his colleagues to see what was spoken about whilst he was gone to at what point the "situation" had got to. He basically arrested you for not doing as HE wanted making up HIS own law. BASTARD Just makes you want to take him in a room and beat the so called power out of him. He was very satisfied with what he did to you.
Speechless. They all knew they wouldn’t get anything out of a section blah, detainment. But did it anyway. I see grounds for legal case against police here.
Jack Spencer you need to read my comment again or get some help to understand it. This tyrant is going to screw up big time meaning worse than this. Then it’ll be much worse for the next person.
just watched both videos and in part 1 you told James about being stopped before under section 43, soon after blondie disappers into the station and suddenly you are detained under section 43, obviously she told grumpy cop this and he thought christmas had come early... this is why people don't trust the police anymore... best advice is say nothing as all they were doing is fishing for a reason to detain you... keep up the great work
Haha - this video is a total classic!!! I think the fact that you were talking to them for 40 mins and told them all about channel just makes the point perfectly..... Please, please take legal action .... !!! Unless auditors start to take civil action things will never change!
This is why AB does what he does to show public money is spent on training officers to abuse their powers. I hope you make a civil claim AB and that Tyrant officer loses he’s job
What an absolute joke. The lady and the other guy were honestly doing a great job. They were mostly polite, knew your rights. Please, please, please take this further against the tyrant. I just really hope the guy who was mostly speaking to you doesn't go down the same path in future, but I fear he will.
James is a two faced lying B, be ashamed of yourself. As for the thug, he is what people remember!!! Never ever trust the police they are not your friends!
Wow, This is exactly why the public loose all trust in the police. I thought James was really doing well he was down to earth, pleasant, even having a joke or 2 then the tyrant spoiled all that, maybe the tyrant should take a leaf out of James's book, our police force would defo get more respect and would possibly start building some of the bridges that are needed so badly between the public and the police.
The moment you embarrassed the arrogant emotional power trip copper by telling him to put away his pad in front of the other officers he was hellbent on revenge! Exceptionally unprofessional and a horrendous example for the young coppers
Filming in public is precluded as a premise to use as grounds for suspicion by the ACPO of England, Wales and Northern Ireland; therefore, the Officer who carried out the search acted outside of legal boundaries; hence, he is guilty of unlawful detainment and assault.
So, the nob at the end illustrates to would be terrorists: you have about half an hour of an officer leaving the scene of a crime, going up to his desk, googling law, before he comes out and tries to do something.
Complaints are pointless police investigating police haha..... a civil suit will make a point that's not pointless hit them where it hurts the tort will take care of that
Lawfully Suspicious have to start the paperwork somewhere and when they investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing it will help the lawsuit as it shows top brass are saying this behaviour by the officers was acceptable,, edit,, also it will go on the cops records and show a history of abuse, possibly already has a complaint history as long as your arm
@@paddycaseygsxr Paddy, you are correct. Due process.... unfortunately we have to go through the police investigate themselves farce before we make the civil claim. That said, as they would no doubt claim no wrongdoing, it only gives a county court more to whip the cops with.
We are all so behind you AB. We all feel violated by this. We all want to pursue this. Please do all you can to pursue this matter. Post every outcome. No matter what happened and how bad or humiliating, emotionally, mentally, physically traumatising the experience, you had victory. Because that is what it took to find and expose this monster of a person/police officer and his gutless colleges to all of us. thankyou AB.
He already knew what he wanted to do when he walked into the building he went in to get approval. I think the others had a good idea what was going to happen through there ear pices and were just keeping you engaged for time
AB asked a cop on another video, she said it was in support of fallen officers, evidently other profesions like fire, ambulance and medical have different coloured lines. personally I see it as disrespect for my red white and blue national flag flag.
Despite the Police being described as a "service" nowadays, they are more a force than ever before to law abiding citizens trying to go about their lawful business.
I thought blondie was too good to be true, I could hear her gobby voice when the tyrant started his unlawful arrest. Disappointed in the other two, especially James.
Hey AB, keep going..you've done a great job but you MUST make a formal complaint about this guy to a Super and post the outcome...you were UNLAWFULLY detained and searched
You have absolutely proved your point AB. I was really starting to like James but he’ll take his pay check over his moral and legal obligation every time. The others should and could have stopped the cycle of tyranny in its tracks as they had been given all the relevant information they required. But the didn’t.
Rob won't handle auditors as he considers that they wind up the police. He only handles cases where the police go from 0 to 100 on people going about their lawful and legal business. Ian Gould is the better bet.
AB you must get an EXTRA CAMERA , like Pen 🖋️ camera on your front pocket or something like that as backup in case this happens again which probably will unfortunately, although it will be less each time as you are setting a great example for new officers or old officers that DONT KNOW THE LAW! Great job AB great job 👏👏👏🙏❤️⚔️
I don’t know whether to like or dislike this video... The officer was a complete clown and pissed me off, but I’m so glad you’ve exposed the type of behaviour inexperienced officers end up learning from. I can’t believe I live in this town...
Shocking behaviour by an officer who was supposed to be showing the probationer the ropes. I hope he distanced himself from fools like that and grows a backbone to stand up to corrupt tyrants
"You're refusing to give us a reason you're here other than THE REASON YOU'VE GIVEN US AS TO WHY YOU ARE HERE," he says. Does he have some kind of cognitive disability?
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 That would be SLIGHTLY less stupid, but only very slightly, since the reason he already gave is perfectly valid and reasonable.
@@ajm5007 There's a difference between telling somebody about something which you are doing and having a valid reason for doing so. It would be easier, and he knows it, to inform the desk so that none of this would happen, but that obviously wouldn't be as interesting to watch. We, the viewers, are privy to what is going on exactly...we already know what his motives are, you can't expect others to. Nb. That's not to say that I think the outcome of this was good...or correct procedure, quite the opposite in fact.
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504What could possibly be a more valid reason for taking photos than "I have a camera and want to take some photos with it"? I'm failing to see what reasons would be MORE valid or MORE reasonable than the ones that were actually given.
That is so disgraceful, I watch these videos and nothing like that. The handcuffs are not meant to hurt you like that so he did them extra tight. As I know someone from the force, I am disgusted.
AB I hope this matter was dealt with in court. The police officer who searched you and assaulted you is a vile human being. AB you are doing a great job please keep up the good work. 🙏🏻
Just want to say that this channel is great and i subbed after watching this. I hope you get justice for the way you were treated, I know some can mock auditers and label them as "claim jumpers", this I feel is a gross misrepresentation, likely officers who got caught out who use that statement. The most shocking thing to me was as you stated, the young officers completely changed, they became human, they dropped the guard and listened and understood, even if was from another perspective, just for Sergeant Cunty bollocks to come swooping in with his Sec43 TA. What example does that set to the young officers? The choice is theirs yet i imagine a lot of doubt will creep in about the role they have taken. Fingers crossed the numpty gets the sack and that poison can be removed.
Ego first, Law last - sadly a perfect show. It looks to me all started when you asked him to name you 'sir': should not it be just the simply perfect term to name a citizen? All my esteem to you and your work.
Throughout the first part of this tale the police have tried to make out that public photography is fine, but they get to decide what can and what can not be photographed in their opinion. Early in part two it is made clear that there are no laws against photography in public places, yet the nose-picker continues to push his erroneous belief that photographing a police station - public property - is somehow closer to being a criminal act than photographing a tree in a field. Of course, the word 'corrupt' is met with cries of disbelief and dismay. Even from the one leaning on the illegally-parked car. There is no emergency, thus no reason for exemption from the usual results of breaking the rules. But there will be no fine, no admonishment from senior officers. Not even a reminder that parking on double yellow lines is an offence. They will get away with it, as they do with numerous other offences they will commit throughout that day and every other. If there is any sort of come-back the 'blue line' will protect them. Smells like corruption to me. Where was the tyrant's court order to take your camera, your evidence, and view it without your permission? I thought the anti-terrorism legislation had been changed because it was being abused so much in exactly this way. What we saw there were the acts of a spoiled child denied something he had no right to. His swollen ego was bruised and there had to be revenge. I sincerely hope this footage of his infantile revenge brings a very large pay-out from a civil rights lawsuit, and commensurately huge media coverage of how such wide-spread ego-driven criminality by the police serves only to alienate the public and raise everyone's taxes to pay for their selfish and unlawful behaviour. .
That is a hugely important lesson to learn: that a single cop can do what he wishes in front of other cops who, even if they are better aware of the situation, feel powerless to intervene. A chilling lesson indeed, and worth your hanging around for. A few seeds of doubt have surely been planted in minds - not only your viewers, but in the young policemen with whom you were enjoying a civil and cordial conversation.
A brilliant comment, that's exactly why he thought he could get away with it.
Evil bastards
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The other officers were actually stalling to keep him there until the tyrant returned.
Where does this terminology ‘detained’ come from? Far too many Police watching ‘American Cop Shows’. AB, was placed in handcuffs. Why? Was he actually arrested? If so, why was AB not given the ‘CAUTION’. Regarding his ‘RIGHTS’. Can a person be handcuffed in this situation? I thought handcuffs could only be used if an offender was violent, threatened violence or suspected of ‘ABSCONDING’. In which case, putting a person in chains is not lawful. AB, you need to seek legal advice. This malpractice by the Police must be stopped. Automatically putting a person in chains is unacceptable. This is not the USA. This is what happens when a politician is imposed on the Police as is with an elected Police Crime commissioner’. Get rid. Frank
6474 was an absolute disgrace. No “speak up” culture in the force. Those officers should have stopped the search. Disgraceful handling.
Moral pygmies. Is there a single police officer in the UK with integrity?
@@threethrushes Yes there is. Loads. Have you ever had an original thought of your own?
@@judgeberry6071 Proof of a good one?
@@stuartb4525 Cognitive bias. You're being virtually brainwashed but lapping it up. Slurp slurp lol, it's a bit pathetic. It equates to school playground mentality.
Very very true. When we got these criminals in the police force. There no police force.
>woah they detained and searched you under the terrorism act for filming in public, that's crazy, we'd never do that
>15 minutes later
>we did that
Spot on!
Lmao
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That's why they was all asking questions, there's no such thing as a conversation with the police if they suspect you, its all an inquiry, all these questions was just bait
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you put yourself at risk and you educate a lot of police officers about their code of conduct and the general public about their rights as most of us we don't know them when it comes to interaction with the police. You Sir , are a real hero ! Thank you !
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He actually is. And he exposed the little man for the coward he is. I wonder if he knows people laugh at him? I certainly do.
That last cop was a complete embarrassment to the police force, and they wonder why they get no respect
You have got it in one,it's time for us all to lookout for each other when we see and are involved in situations like this,to stand up for the rights of each other,by doing so this kind of behaviour can be wiped out completely.
But the two other educated talkitive cops get the promotions while ignoring such abuse and saying they oppose it and then doing nothing when it happens in front of them.
@@eccosselion except the other two cops who actually denied such behaviour happened and if it did they would oppose it did nothing!
Smells like fucking hog roast in here..
@Dave 2020 You have got to be kidding yourself on,if you think that was good policing, I think the response to this Vlog speaks volumes for itself, you want to burst your bubble and breath in the truth of reality, there is no defence for such behavior at any time.
He literally said " if you don't give me your details, I will detain you ". That is explicitly forbidden in the pace code of practice. There is no ambiguity about this incident, it is clearly a corrupt or otherwise improper exercise of a police power or privilege. Basically, if you insist on exercising your right to privacy, I'm just going to take it from you by force. Then I'm going to assume that my Inspector is as bent as me and has zero moral or ethical standards.
Yes but did you see blond cops hands 2:38 Reptilian Shape shifter confirmed.
He said "I will detain you if you do not refuse to me me your details" Wait, what????
@@MaxPowers Easy mistake for the stupid, Max. Be kind.
Excessive force, abuse of powers and several acts. This could be a very lucrative claim that puts a black mark against that nazi and the two sympathisers stopping them getting promotion. I’d be calling crimebodge in
@@ozzie2612 nor do you
Patently!
Absolutely disgusting. He only searched you because he let his personal feelings get in the way
He only searched hoping for ID like they all do.
I only hope the worse for this moron .And I mean this in the most sincere and diabolical way I can in this forum . Hope he does not have a wife or children as they are in danger.
Yes my feelings too. Really bad cop.
NAZI EGO
100% he was raging. 🤣
Why did the cop walk away for 15 minutes then come back and detain under S43 when he could have done it straight away? Clearly he's not too smart and went away to check his powers.
Well obviously. His fragile little ego was bruised.
COPS HAVE NO POWER JUST AUTHORITY AND CAN ONLY USE IT WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH CRIME/CRIMINAL OR HAVE RAS TO BELIEVE CRIME MAY BE AFOOT. FILMING ALONE DOES NOT COUNT AS RAS AS IT IS A LAWFUL ACTIVITY. WHEN SEARCHING UNDER THE TERRORIST ACT THEY MUST SAY WHAT THEY EXPECT TO FIND IE BOMBS OR BOMB MATERIAL, WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTION ETC., ETC. THEY MUST HAVE A CLEAR REASON THAT THIS MAN HAS SUCH ITEMS ON HIM SUCH AS, HE WAS SEEN TO HAVE THEM BY SOMEONE, WHO REPORTED HIM, HIS DESCRIPTION FITS A KNOWN TERRORIST EYC. THAT COP HAD NOTHING.
Probably went to check if his mate (sorry I mean boss) wouldn't get him in trouble if he abused his powers. Seems like he got the thumbs up
..and after 15 mins still got it wrong !!
Blondie was feeding him information. She was talking on the radio to someone (possibly him). Then, she is called over the radio and disappears behind the gate. I believe she conspired with the tyrant which explains why she flipped during the arrest.
Imagine 500 people turn up with cameras and show these tyrants how little power they really do have.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
@Chris Gipson good dog
@Chris Gipson and you are a keyboard warrior, stfu.
Great idea
Great idea
What pisses me off is he knew what you were doing but could not cope with your non compliance. Terrible, I’d be ashamed of myself is I was that arresting officer. Disgusting!
I think you are giving PC James and his two colleagues more credit than they deserve they were just playing good cop to his bad cop to keep you there until he came back and searched you, they knew what was going to happen they were part of it.
I totally agree. Known tactics
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You don't know Luton police station and places like it. The office with the attitude has all the power James on the other has to go with it or he will have problems from all the other officers. The one in the hijab is not comfortable in her working environment that's why she ended up leaving the force
@@thegerm1397 can I ask how you know the Officer in the Hijab left the force?
@@RUDEBOYY2K80 typical scenario for that sort of environment
AB, you should get MBE for this public information and awareness service . Honestly ,you are elevating this nation public moral high. We need more people like you in the 21st century and beyond.
Well done, and keep doing. A big thank you.❤
He abused The Terrorism Act just like you said corrupt officers do! Absolutely disgusting!
That's what blondie went and told the officer...
Well they convicted Paul Golding of terrorism for refusing to allow the police access to his phone, laptop etc. That’s not terrorism is it?
If he was serious about terrorism why didn’t he arrest the muslim cop?
Governments are the largest terrorist organizations, and police sadly are the second largest, then probably security and large corporations.
Yeah your Bob on the mate that’s what Blondie Went inside far she probably got the worst copper in there who is known for beating & assaulting old-age pensioners and teenagers who sit in the park on a Friday and Saturday Night with a couple of cans of lager to come out and stitch you up she was probably the tadle tale when she was in school because she was a late bloomer LOL bang out of order
6474 disgusting behaviour. What would they do off camera. Take him the whole road AB.
@teflontelefon private prosecution is the way
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times... YOU CAN NOT TRUST THE POLICE. Tell them nothing and do not interact. They're all as bad as each other, even the "nice" ones. Disgraceful behaviour !
I've been saying for the past forty years: _"There's no such thing as good cops, because if there were, there wouldn't be any bad cops!"_ And this video went a long way to prove just that!
The general public isn’t any better.
Well said. You are 100% spot on. If the guys are encouraging and not correcting bad behaviour of their fellow cops, they are as guilty as the one abusing the law and our human rights. The term for this is, accomplice.
@@chd1694so you're saying most of the public is no good OK officer
I sent a complaint as follows:- "A man was filming outside of Luton Police Station. PC 6474 used the Terrorism Act as a means to handcuff and try to get the details of the man lawfully filming in public. He refused to give a document to say he'd searched the man unless the man identified himself. I would ask why is it that police personnel still do not know the law regarding filming in public despite memos circulating from police chiefs saying it's lawful? Why are police personnel still misusing the Terrorism Act?"
Sent your complaint where?
@Replying is futile IOPC would be unlikely to even look at his complaint, let alone find in favour.
They only really look at incidents of DSI (Death and Serious Injury) or cases of gross misconduct.
This sort of complaint would be dealt with in house by the police themselves.
If you think the police are bad now wait 12months when there will b a standing army against the people STARZI
@Replying is futile He could appeal an investigation that did not find in his favour, but I magine they would not find in his favour for a second time (watch my uploads about the response to my complaint based on virtually the same use of sec 43 powers without reasonable suspicion to get an idea of how they justify it).
So the only remedy would be to bring a civil action for false imprisonment (trespass to goods and assualt are usually thrown in too, if property is searched, and cuffs are used, or you are grabbed).
In this civil case, based on case law, all one has to do is prove he was detained, and that the detainment was unlawful.
Proving he was detained is easy. Was he free to leave? Once he proves he was detained the burden of proof pases to the defendant (the police) to prove that the actions were justified and lawful.
Unfortunately, I think it would be difficult (although not impossible) to get a court to agree that the detainment was 'unreasonable'. You and I may realise that it was, but it is another matter to convince a court that it was.
Especially since it surrounds terrorism powers. The courts would, IMO, be unlikely to wamt to be seen to bring a judgememt which might be seen to hinder the police's powers to combat those dreaded bogeymen called terrorists.
Once the head of claim of false imprisonment fails, so the others fail on the back of it.
Would make for an interesting case mind, and expensive. You'd be unlikely to get any legal help for free. You could try and do it yourself, but be prepared to have to sit down and learn the way to procede through the civil courts.
FUCK a complaint all four should be executed for shite police work. Had to get in an English bad word there!
Absolutely appalling, that officer should lose his job and the onlookers should be ashamed of themselves. Keep up the good work sir, you're a star.
Blond cop shape shifter hands 2:38 look at that.
@@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS didn't see it. What exactly happens to her hand?
Huj w dupe policji 🤓
Totally agree with you Chris
@@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS What the hell is going on with her hands? how has she managed to twist them into that configuration?
Weird!
The cops butt got hurt and his ego took overhand. Suddenly his feelings very more important than the law. He should be fired, plain and simple. I wouldn't trust him to clean my toilet.
This is a total embarrassment that this could occur in Great Britain. I am so sorry to have seen this happen to you. No good deed goes unpunished. I would be ashamed if he was my friend. His actions would end our friendship. AB is a good man and did not warrant being abused. AB, I usually end my comments with one red flower for you. This view . . . 💐🌺💐🌸💐
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John, sorry to nick pick. But Great Britain is not a Country. It’s a term to describe a landmass. This incident happened in a Country called ‘England’, sadly, in my Country, England. Frank
@Jonontoast he did tell them the name of the YT channel, the younger police even looked up the channel on one of their phones.
@@AuditingBritain These cops in CLOWN suit have no power at all and NO RESPECT at all
The MOST DeGraded and WORST LOW CLASS. Third Grade Worst than Garbage picking job IS being a COP
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only recently found these types of videos and what an eye opener, iv binged for hours on your videos and find myself compelled to watch them all, like and subscribe to support you in the amazing work your doing. i dont need to comment on the video i feel exactly the same as the majority of the comments. your mannerism and the way you conduct yourself is an example for all. keep up the good work im here for the whole ride.
Shocking isn't it?
Same for me!
Well said Lawbart.
Whenever I see cops standing back and allowing a tyrant to abuse a citizen these words by Martin Niemöller always spring to mind.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
The two BAME officers should be completely conversant with this tyrants behaviour and would be shouting at the top of their voices if AB was a member of the BAME community. Shame on both of them.
@@alancross1987 I think AB is BAME
Note pad boy is an embarrassment !! And shame on the others. They knew he was in the wrong. Disgusting behaviour
Viktor Sligo I agree. They all in it together and they hate being challenged!
@Viktor Sligo what's tht
They can't do nothing other officer was in.a higher rank you can argue with someone in a higher rank then you
@@dantaylor5939 you can, they just choose not to. It was the same in the US when George Floyd was killed. One policeman killed him but there were many more who stood around watching and doing nothing. If we're not careful the UK could end up the same way if behaviour like this isn't challenged. It's all very well saying it's just a few bad apples but if the good apples don't do anything then they're just as guilty.
@@MrPeteComputing you can argue woth someome in a higher rank you idoit or you get sacked george floyd the officers was the same rank
Copy of letter sent below.
Dear Mr Forsyth,
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
DICTATED
A RUclips video was brought to my attention today, entitled stand-off outside Luton police station, part 2.
Let me begin by asking if police stations and other publicly funded buildings in England, are exempt from photography. Or, are there any laws on the statute books which specifically denies a citizen the right to point a camera in the direction of such a buildings?
I am deeply disturbed by the behaviour of the police officers who interacted with the videographer in this video. Especially officer 6474. It is clear that the videographer had broken no laws ( the officers agreed to that point) and that none of the officers had “reasonable grounds” under the prevention of terrorism act, to genuinely suspect him of being involved in terrorist activities. The act of photography, alone, no matter which direction you point your camera in, cannot be sufficient grounds for a serious charge such as terrorism. If that were so, then every tourist who stands outside the MI5 building in London taking pictures of that building, simply because they’ve seen it in a James Bond film, would be behind bars.
It seems likely that the treatment this citizen received, was as a result of behaviour that is often referred to in America as, contempt of cop. Not answering questions of a police officer, is not a crime. Provided that you are behaving completely lawfully. Your officers reacted to a citizen that declined to give up his personal details for no reason, as if that automatically made him guilty of a crime for which they had the powers of arrest and search. It was as if the very foundation of our legal system had been reversed. Namely that the citizen is guilty until they prove their innocence..
THE USE OF CAMERAS IN PUBLIC.
There are 627,000 CCTV cameras in London alone and between 14 to16 million of them in the country as a hole, According to government statistics, by 2022 there will be 54 million smart phones in circulation all of which have video cameras and the police and TFL use ANPR cameras recording cars and people by the millions every day. And last year the police announced that they are rolling out facial recognition camera vans into our streets to video random passing faces of the public. It seems to me that the government regards photography as a perfectly legal activity. As legal as walking a dog or going shopping. The law makes no distinction between any of these activities.
There is an estimated 10 million dash cameras fitted to trucks and cars ( including police cars ) constantly recording all over the country. And finally, citizen journalism is a firmly established fact of present day life (as mentioned in a letter from Andrew Potter, Chair of the ACPO, now named, NPCC, in 2010) and footage from citizens smart phones, of crimes is often sought by the police as evidence.
The police often appeal for citizens footage to help solve crimes. You can’t have it both ways. It seems to me that the government regards photography as a perfectly legal activity. As legal as walking a dog or going shopping.
That being the case, what is it about this ONE camera in the hand of this citizen outside a police station (that we pay for) that entitled these offers to interrupt his peace and freedom to conduct what amounts to a police interview on the roadside with no opportunity for him to seek advice or council. Then they accuse him of being a terrorist, and put him through the indignity of a body search on the pavement. And if it’s because he pointed his camera briefly at a police station, can you tell me if police stations are exempt from photography and what other buildings in the country have special no photography status. Better still, may I have a list please? Further, may I also have a list, detailing any other rights that I have as a citizen, which police officers are entitled to trample on based on their emotions and feelings rather than law.
FULL DISCLOSURE.
I have spent 30 years working in the media and will not be fobbed off with an email that does not seriously address the points that I have raised and either defends the officers actions with legal reasoning and justification or accepts that errors were made. And please address the inactions of his colleagues who did nothing to prevent this clear breach of civil rights taking place. There was no crime afoot here and the officers involved clearly stated that this citizen had not broken any laws on several occasions.
Lastly, I think it is clear to all who view this video that there is a serious lack of training, ability and knowledge in all the police officers connected to this event. Especially officer, shoulder number 6474. This reflects on poor leadership. To put it bluntly and to use an old phrase, the fish stinks from the head.
So please explain to me what you will be doing in the future to ensure that police officers are better trained on the rights of citizens, particularly in the area of photography from a public place. Regardless of their personal opinions as to this lawful activity. And also what will be done to train police officers on the proportionality of the reaction to photographers and the necessary deescalation techniques which must be part of all officer training. This officer escalated this encounter, just because his ego is bruised. He use the prevention of terrorism act to try and find a form of ID in the pockets of the citizen, Just because the citizen declined to give up his details. That is clear for everybody to see. And remember this video is forever, it will not go away. It would be wise to train police officers so that the Internet does not end up with a plethora of similar videos in the future. It would be extremely unwise if the police made any attempt to have this video taken down. As that would be a clear admission of guilt. And I can almost guarantee that the video would resurface on other platforms anyway. Because that’s what usually happens in the circumstances.
Mr Reidy QBE
PS. Many millions of men and women gave up their lives in two world wars so that we could live in a society where jackbooted police officers don’t walk up to citizens and demand “Papers please”. The behaviour of this officer and his colleagues denigrates all of those people who sacrificed so much for our freedom and is reminiscent of the behaviour found by the bully boy thugs who worked the streets of Berlin in the 1930s. This kind of abuse of civil rights has no place in our society.
Thank you 🙏
Well written and to the point.
Pure Brilliance!
Hi, thanks for your comment, and yes, you’re right in that anyone who thinks the police will investigate themselves on any matter without a predisposed policy of doing everything possible to support the officer/s and reject any complaints, is a fool. But then I ask myself, what I should do? Nothing? Perhaps, but if I were a chief constable and every day, I received more and more complaints from citizens about the behaviour of my officers, it would start to grate on my nerves. And in an age where social media seems to carry so much weight, perhaps pressure there, can have an effect. I certainly don’t pretend to have all the answers. But,many of the historical problems in our society took root and grew in size, because people did nothing. If enough British citizens complain about the poor behaviour of police officers then over time, and in the far distant future we may bring about reform and change. These things can take a generation to turn around. But as a great Greek philosopher once said. “A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in”
NumptyMagnet . That’s probably just as well. Put the telly on. 📺 👍🙄
I was just listening to this, and I honestly thought it had gone to a different video as the detaining officer came up and changed EVERYTHING. These young police officers learned EXACTLY what you were talking about and why you were out there doing what you were doing. Insane. Absolutely insane.
19.22 'Am I being detained?'
'You will be in a minute if you don't let me finish'.
NO OFFICER. That's not how this is meant to work.
You don't get to detain people because they won't listen to you.
That kinda pissed me off, to be honest.
Clearly from officer Tyrant 'You will be in a minute if you don't let me finish' and immediately detaining AB he is a liar. Whatever was said, not said, done, or not done he was going to detain AB!
Lock him up we need Bobby's on the beat not fucking about with this div
Biggest mistake on your part was becoming to chummy with them. They lulled you into a false sense of relaxation and then they struck. Not trying to attack you, just observing the strategy and tactics used. When you challenge people with power, they will never willingly let you get away with it.
Yeah I wonder if on another day he would have played it differently. It didn't make sense that bully boy would have gone away for that long only to come out and say see you later.
@@simmer484 went in try find out what he could do him for. And see also if can found out who he is on computer national database. See if he got criminal record wanted etc. Cops all about the power. Power corrupts.
@@michaelg3463 I honestly would have told the black pc and the pc wearing the headscarf that they are worse because they knew but stood by and especially given the fact that their ethnicity/background makes them a more likely target for abuse. If people won't stand up for what's right, then they are just as bad or worse. AB was very brave and righteous in how he was polite and conversive.
@@michaelg3463 how exactly is he going to find him on any database if he doesn't know his name? What's he gonna enter for a name. Man staanding outside police station with a camera?
The cops weren’t really making casual conversation, a lot of what they were saying was probing questions about AB’s background. The male cop was acting the nice guy to get AB to open up. Basically cops are never your friend when they stop you.
He was totally out of order. He needs a psych to test him on his IQ and EQ. You stayed calm. And it's normal that you where stunned by the unlawfull arrest on that vid. And he's a full on tyrant.
They select for average to low IQ / EQ. Anyone of above average intelligence could not do it. The police don't protect the public, they protect their tyrannical masters (corporations and government). AB is helping those who haven't already worked that out to see it.
3 cops letting 1 do something wrong just makes 4 bad ones 🤬
Tyrant looks like he’s from a Scally family background. I can imagine what he will deal with Asian or black peoples. Tyrant should be sacked.
Never ever trust the filth. Big up AB, respect for exposing these tyrants.
The other cops were actually nice, for sure the nose “scratcher” 😂 but that one notepad boy is a prick
@@stienogamez8296 the others were told to hold him there pretending to be nice, cops are not nice to people unless they want something, that ear piece james had would of been telling him to keep him chatting while I get warrant for his arrest approval. Scum they all are.
Prime example of why not to trust them or even engage.
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Its amazing that you told those "cops" exactly what happens...and they said " I would report an officer acted like that" did they?? No because when dealing with pigs you usually get shit on you.
They may have reported after but we can not know but I would say as they did try to advise the office who is their senior but he ignored them probably have brought it to the attention of another superior. So let's not jump to conclusions as there is no way to know.
Beyond the complaint against this abuse, I really want to thank you, dear AB, for showing us clearly how small some people with temporary great power can be. A big hug from the Colosseum. YO.
“I will detain you if you refuse to give me your details” - well right there, that’s where it went from 0-100.
This is perhaps one of the worst abuse of powers as part of a photography audit I’ve seen in the UK. So many laws broken by the police and complete lack of proportionality in every sense. I really am sorry this has happened, but equally now that it has PLEASE keep us constantly updated on your complaint and follow this up in the courts with a civil suit at the minimum - unless tyrants like that police officer get a summons in the post, and realise saying “see you in court” wasn’t an empty threat, they will simply do this again to someone else.
@bigblackdog nark
Dreadful training for those two new recruits to see such abuse of power.
How does the barrel get spoiled? Create a bad apple and make him a trainer.
Sorry to disillusion you, but I strongly suspect “James” was in on it. I’m not absolutely positive about it, but he was receiving communications all the time it was going on, it is difficult to believe they would not have kept him in the loop as to what was going on. I strongly believe he had been instructed to keep you talking until hitler got back ( he looked like he had a hitler moustache in some of your shots). I think the lady in the hijab was the only one that was not really part of it. The other two repeatedly kept looking over at the gates for that miserable streak of shit to return and grind you under his jackboot. He really had the look of somebody that was bullied relentlessly at school and joined up for his ego and to get his own back on anybody he comes across. That blondie has probably gone through all the males like a dose of salts, shamelessly using her looks to lull people into a sense of false security, pathetic, the way she giggles and smarms “are you filming us”.
This really upset me, it bought back all the negative interactions I’ve had with police over the years ( not had that many at all, but more have been negative than positive), it reinforced that feeling of disconnect and mistrust, you should allow people to mirror this video as the perfect example of why you should never take how police act on face value, always suspect an ulterior motive. This is coming from someone that would love to be able to respect the police, after all, they are meant to be there for you in your time of need, unfortunately this gets corrupted into a cancerous malignancy resulting in the scenario we have just seen played out.
I wont to know what is going on with that blond cops hands WTF? 2:38 look at that. Reptilian Shape shifter confirmed 100%
Agreed he has a earphone connected which is their way of recieving internal comms without anyone else hearing. The way he's acting it looks like he's being instructed through the ear piece to keep him talking. Don't forget being right outside a police station gated entrance for vehicles it will be full of cameras so the control room are watching everything unfold
100% he was in on it, he needs to prove himself and he's vain and doesn't want to look bad on video, they were all in on it, typical good cop bad cop tactic and sadly AB fell for it.
Bedfordshire police is one of the worst forces in the country so this behaviour isn't that shocking
WATCHING THE WATCHERS LMfao
He had to dominate you to cure his ego.
Bad Cops infect good cops and then there’s no going back.Perfect example for these new officers
No such thing as a good cop
Who is PC6474?
please give us an update mate, so sad, that monster can't get away with this.
He's not a monster. '....It is the nature and disposition of almost all men that as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion' Doctrine & Covenants 121:39. There'll be thousands or millions of people who would do the same, they're not monsters, they probably don't realise they're doing it, they're in ignorance or forgetfull of this principle.
@@johnharvey4448 youtubes worse update ffs
@@lisasleeth2437 quality comment
They should feel so ashamed of themselves abusing their powers and rights when real crimes are taking place. That's why we have zero confidence in the police after these encounters and far worse unfortunately. You deserve a medal putting up with this bollocks 👏 thankfully AB you are highlighting a significant problem with the old bill.
That corrupt police officer. Needs sacking, pay out of this own crooked pocket, and spent time in prison!
The arresting officer got permission from the custody sergeant. He missed the conversation where you gave the information on your channel. The others just stand by and allow the law to be broken. Typical police. Great videos.
@@MJbestMJbest I've no doubt that happened. So the two newbies saw real policing, which is , " we can do whatever we want, petty much . It's thier choice to stay in that corrupt gang .
@@MJbestMJbest its obvious. The other PC was recieving comms through his earpiece to keep him talking
Exactly the reason I use a burner phone and not my main personal phone AB. You were clearly assaulted and unlawfully searched under the terrorism act which can't be used just for not giving your name. This officer and his chief inspector need to compensate you, especially for the actual bodily harm caused by the assault with handcuffs. Wish I lived closer to you TBH.
Thanks bro , I’m working on it
@@AuditingBritain Civil claim is the only way these idiots learn anything. If you're gonna be a chef then it makes sense to learn how to cook first. Police should learn how to correctly use the legislation before unlawfully implementing it. They knew full well you're not a terrorist yet chose to abuse the legislation anyway because they were butt hurt you didn't comply with giving them your name, simple as that.
@@PINACI If you compare a trainee chef in a kitchen to this bunch in the police force then these guys have yet to work out how to get the tin opener out of the draw.
@@nigelbaldwin752 best comment I've read in 2020 😂😂
@@paulsharman9077 Your comment is confusing. Who's william ?
This was painful to watch AB, I really hope this goes further, an apology would be a nice place to start but I think compensation would make the police think twice about abusing law abiding citizens
Compensation doesn’t make them think twice, as it isn’t their money.
The compensation comes from you me and everyone else aka taxpayer's certainly not them that's why it means fuck all to them they don't care qualified immunity for this lot
@@oddhominem and you always have some crap to say in nearly all his vids away you go eejit
Hold the PRICKS accountable
I can not see any compo been given look at people that have been in prison for some thing they have not done and after 20 years and then not found gilt all they get is a sorry and here is £10,000 if you are lucky this is ENGLAND for you he must have been a bully in school or more a kid that got picked on and now he just like to intimidate people and threaten them
I have been arrested more time than i can remember nothing is ever happened and only been charged in court for one Crime that I was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time
the police also decided to kick down my door drag me out of bed make a scene in my neighborhood for a crime of making off without payment in a blue Audi when I don't even have a car at the time i think i was about 18 years old the description when I was six and a half tall black man with dreadlocks when I'm really 5-ft tall short heir and tanned
and then after seeing the CCTV footage they wondered why I got angry in the interview and said you expect me to become when it's and we don't know we haven't do the footage yet
then there was armed robbery in Hyde Park in Leeds when I live in Wakefield district and my getaway vehicle was a push bike went back and to court for 2 years and not found guilty
and apparently a number of phone calls were made anonymously saying it was me
thetab.com/uk/leeds/2015/02/23/man-robbed-13987/comment-page-69
So nice to see all the reviews now. It's fantastic that everybody is supporting AB.
Disgusting behaviour....he didn’t even have a quiet word with the two officers who had been interacting with you for the last 30 mins. Surely they would have been in the best position to determine if they felt you were a threat in anyway. I am also disgusted that they did nothing at all to de-escalate the situation. They stood by and allowed you to be treated unfairly. Where is their passion for social justice and balancing of power. I will be complaining for you AB. I love how calm you are and so articulate. Their actions go against the policies that the MET have in place about public filming and photography. You CAN film a police station you CAN film in the lobby. You just can’t access restricted areas to film there. You should start a movement All Auditors lives Matter!
Just a game of dominance, he did not like the fact you were not listening to his orders, he never questioned his colleagues to see what was spoken about whilst he was gone to at what point the "situation" had got to.
He basically arrested you for not doing as HE wanted making up HIS own law.
BASTARD
Just makes you want to take him in a room and beat the so called power out of him.
He was very satisfied with what he did to you.
Remember 'Blue Egos Matter'
I was also very satisfied with what he did 😁
@@dazmanshears why lol
Speechless. They all knew they wouldn’t get anything out of a section blah, detainment. But did it anyway. I see grounds for legal case against police here.
Very much so.
AB - "This is a lesson for you. This is part of your training."
Clueless hijab cop: "What lesson? You don't teach us anything."
Smh.
When he turns your camera off .. is that tampering with evidence.. in court?.
If they give the bodycams footage, probably not, but even then can be claimed as "an accident", you know, "accidents" happen.
Going through his camera at the roadside is, a breach.
That IS Really ALL about made UP rules by Crooks IN Parliament and House of Lords+Fellow Up By Police and Law Courts Which R Bend IN every way
That tyrant is going to screw up big time he can't control his ego, just hope no innocent member of the public suffers as a result
Jack Spencer you need to read my comment again or get some help to understand it. This tyrant is going to screw up big time meaning worse than this. Then it’ll be much worse for the next person.
with every video i watch you gain more and more of my respect. no wonder you have gained 1k more subscribers in the last 24 hours keep it up.
Thank you 🙏
Wow shocking they gained he’s trust and still betrayed him no wonder why he’s out here auditing
This is why I’m always suspicious of the police..
just watched both videos and in part 1 you told James about being stopped before under section 43, soon after blondie disappers into the station and suddenly you are detained under section 43, obviously she told grumpy cop this and he thought christmas had come early... this is why people don't trust the police anymore... best advice is say nothing as all they were doing is fishing for a reason to detain you... keep up the great work
Haha - this video is a total classic!!! I think the fact that you were talking to them for 40 mins and told them all about channel just makes the point perfectly..... Please, please take legal action .... !!! Unless auditors start to take civil action things will never change!
This is why AB does what he does to show public money is spent on training officers to abuse their powers.
I hope you make a civil claim AB and that Tyrant officer loses he’s job
What an absolute joke. The lady and the other guy were honestly doing a great job. They were mostly polite, knew your rights. Please, please, please take this further against the tyrant. I just really hope the guy who was mostly speaking to you doesn't go down the same path in future, but I fear he will.
Muscle man is one of the best police AB has interacted with but im sure his partner will turn him in a year or 2
like what alonso is trying to do to jake in training day? like "if you act this soft people will eat you on breakfast" ?
Muscle Man will get a transfer - He extracted more info than the bully ever will...
They’ll act like your pal, but they are all the same
Wrong !! They're all as bad as each other....... without exception !!
@@moodyguymick & Motörhead, you are both correct. The police anywhere and everywhere in the world are EVIL GARBAGE because their job is EVIL
James let me down, he should of stepped in when his colleague started to act a fool with section 43
He can't hes still on probationary training he said it in part 1
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Kamikaze, that’s what happens, the ignore bad behaviour! Thin blue line.
James is a two faced lying B, be ashamed of yourself.
As for the thug, he is what people remember!!!
Never ever trust the police they are not your friends!
@@Liverpoolboy01 James was actually decent, but to young in the game same as the hijaab lady.
Years later and not a thing changed with these disgusting tyrants .
Wow, This is exactly why the public loose all trust in the police.
I thought James was really doing well he was down to earth, pleasant, even having a joke or 2 then the tyrant spoiled all that, maybe the tyrant should take a leaf out of James's book, our police force would defo get more respect and would possibly start building some of the bridges that are needed so badly between the public and the police.
James was definitely in on it. He was just doing the good cop routine to gain AB’s trust….and it worked 😔
A couple of bad apples. More like a couple of good apples in a whole stinking barrel. Absolutely disgusting.
Sad but it's starting to look that way, being angry at the world seems to be a requirement
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
Absolutely true!!!!!!!!!!!
The moment you embarrassed the arrogant emotional power trip copper by telling him to put away his pad in front of the other officers he was hellbent on revenge!
Exceptionally unprofessional and a horrendous example for the young coppers
Filming in public is precluded as a premise to use as grounds for suspicion by the ACPO of England, Wales and Northern Ireland; therefore, the Officer who carried out the search acted outside of legal boundaries; hence, he is guilty of unlawful detainment and assault.
So, the nob at the end illustrates to would be terrorists: you have about half an hour of an officer leaving the scene of a crime, going up to his desk, googling law, before he comes out and tries to do something.
Her erm what the he'll is going on with blond cops hands 2:38.
You need to follow through and make a complaints. Otherwise this whole process was for nothing.
Complaints are pointless police investigating police haha..... a civil suit will make a point that's not pointless hit them where it hurts the tort will take care of that
@@lawfullysuspicious1225 agreed
Lawfully Suspicious have to start the paperwork somewhere and when they investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing it will help the lawsuit as it shows top brass are saying this behaviour by the officers was acceptable,, edit,, also it will go on the cops records and show a history of abuse, possibly already has a complaint history as long as your arm
Complaint is useless, they just bin it.
Sue them that can give you some cash AB, for new recording equipment ✌️
@@paddycaseygsxr Paddy, you are correct. Due process.... unfortunately we have to go through the police investigate themselves farce before we make the civil claim. That said, as they would no doubt claim no wrongdoing, it only gives a county court more to whip the cops with.
AB,keep doing what you’re doing buddy, holding the “Last Picks” to account!😂😉
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@@AuditingBritain hi AB, any update?
@@AuditingBritain
How about now, 1 year later?
He was in the police station for half over half an hour probly reading through section 43 to see if he had grounds to arrest him. Lol
He had to wait for his mummy to come and help him with the big words
We are all so behind you AB. We all feel violated by this. We all want to pursue this. Please do all you can to pursue this matter. Post every outcome. No matter what happened and how bad or humiliating, emotionally, mentally, physically traumatising the experience, you had victory. Because that is what it took to find and expose this monster of a person/police officer and his gutless colleges to all of us. thankyou AB.
Out of curiosity, what was the outcome to your complaint?
i cannot imagine how the other officers felt when they witnessed you being arrested... my heart would of just broke. I feel like crying.
😂😂😂😂😂 fairy
He already knew what he wanted to do when he walked into the building he went in to get approval. I think the others had a good idea what was going to happen through there ear pices and were just keeping you engaged for time
thought that soon as he walked in i new it was going come before AB put it up on screen
You make a lot of assumptions, knowing very little.
Exactly,and that blond thing couldn't wait for it
Why is that tyrant wearing a flag with a blue line? Is he trying to copy his tyrant heroes in the USA?
DEFACING MY FLAG WITH THEIR GANG SIGN! TYRANTS!!!
AB asked a cop on another video, she said it was in support of fallen officers, evidently other profesions like fire, ambulance and medical have different coloured lines. personally I see it as disrespect for my red white and blue national flag flag.
I admire this guy what is doing, this is an eye opener on how police conduct themselves, they are very tricky and liars
Im raging after having finished this video AB. I cant believe that 'experienced' officer acted the way he did, literally unbelievable.
Civil lawsuit right there! Nice easy payout for you AB. Take action against him immediately!
The arresting PC should of conversed with his colleagues to ascertain the information you had provided to them before throwing his toys out the pram.
The tyrant was embarrassed when you said 'your car is that way' and he also wanted to impress the blonde cop.
Despite the Police being described as a "service" nowadays, they are more a force than ever before to law abiding citizens trying to go about their lawful business.
Honestly man this was going so well till that tyrant had to ruin it for them
I thought blondie was too good to be true, I could hear her gobby voice when the tyrant started his unlawful arrest. Disappointed in the other two, especially James.
Hey AB, keep going..you've done a great job but you MUST make a formal complaint about this guy to a Super and post the outcome...you were UNLAWFULLY detained and searched
You have absolutely proved your point AB. I was really starting to like James but he’ll take his pay check over his moral and legal obligation every time. The others should and could have stopped the cycle of tyranny in its tracks as they had been given all the relevant information they required. But the didn’t.
Disagree, the new cops are hardly going to go against their boss, the tyrant is the only one to blame here.
Whey protein isn't enough to actually make a man.
This is a job for Crimebodge !! I will look forward to the court case and hope you get the result and compensation you deserve.
he,s the best man to help ab
Rob won't handle auditors as he considers that they wind up the police. He only handles cases where the police go from 0 to 100 on people going about their lawful and legal business. Ian Gould is the better bet.
@@TheSadButMadLad hay ho
@@TheSadButMadLad Shame,but i hope he could just advise AB on how to proceed himself.
So she would step in of another officer was doing wrong?..Along comes Mr Ego Bigger Than His Bank Balance, & she was no where to be seen.
AB you must get an EXTRA CAMERA , like Pen 🖋️ camera on your front pocket or something like that as backup in case this happens again which probably will unfortunately, although it will be less each time as you are setting a great example for new officers or old officers that DONT KNOW THE LAW! Great job AB great job 👏👏👏🙏❤️⚔️
Do keep us informed of the court hearings.
You need to start wearing a GoPro with another camera rolling.
Always have one camera on a live stream.
I don’t know whether to like or dislike this video... The officer was a complete clown and pissed me off, but I’m so glad you’ve exposed the type of behaviour inexperienced officers end up learning from.
I can’t believe I live in this town...
Carlos 'All-Star' Anderson
So, what is your dilemma?
@Steve Shaw obviously I’m not as bright as you and it only took you a year to come up with that witty retort.
Shocking behaviour by an officer who was supposed to be showing the probationer the ropes. I hope he distanced himself from fools like that and grows a backbone to stand up to corrupt tyrants
AB, how about a crowd funding to take this guy to court?
I am ok financially at the moment. But thank you it’s good to know I got my back covered .
Let’s the stars shine and the snowballs melt right? xD
@@AuditingBritain indeed Sir we have your back.
@@AuditingBritain so hows things going?
@@AuditingBritain any news please inform and elaborate on this situ? This is an attack on our freedoms and it’s going to get worse!
"You're refusing to give us a reason you're here other than THE REASON YOU'VE GIVEN US AS TO WHY YOU ARE HERE," he says.
Does he have some kind of cognitive disability?
Maybe the missing word is a *valid* reason or a *reasonable* reason.
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 That would be SLIGHTLY less stupid, but only very slightly, since the reason he already gave is perfectly valid and reasonable.
@@ajm5007
There's a difference between telling somebody about something which you are doing and having a valid reason for doing so.
It would be easier, and he knows it, to inform the desk so that none of this would happen, but that obviously wouldn't be as interesting to watch.
We, the viewers, are privy to what is going on exactly...we already know what his motives are, you can't expect others to.
Nb. That's not to say that I think the outcome of this was good...or correct procedure, quite the opposite in fact.
@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504What could possibly be a more valid reason for taking photos than "I have a camera and want to take some photos with it"? I'm failing to see what reasons would be MORE valid or MORE reasonable than the ones that were actually given.
That is so disgraceful, I watch these videos and nothing like that. The handcuffs are not meant to hurt you like that so he did them extra tight. As I know someone from the force, I am disgusted.
Awww there not supposed to have fur on them to be extra comfortable for you
In the U.S. we call that 'earning the hate'.
@@seydotargun42 bootlicker
AB I hope this matter was dealt with in court. The police officer who searched you and assaulted you is a vile human being. AB you are doing a great job please keep up the good work. 🙏🏻
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@@AuditingBritain any updates on this
Just want to say that this channel is great and i subbed after watching this.
I hope you get justice for the way you were treated, I know some can mock auditers and label them as "claim jumpers", this I feel is a gross misrepresentation, likely officers who got caught out who use that statement.
The most shocking thing to me was as you stated, the young officers completely changed, they became human, they dropped the guard and listened and understood, even if was from another perspective, just for Sergeant Cunty bollocks to come swooping in with his Sec43 TA. What example does that set to the young officers? The choice is theirs yet i imagine a lot of doubt will creep in about the role they have taken.
Fingers crossed the numpty gets the sack and that poison can be removed.
Ego first, Law last - sadly a perfect show.
It looks to me all started when you asked him to name you 'sir': should not it be just the simply perfect term to name a citizen?
All my esteem to you and your work.
Throughout the first part of this tale the police have tried to make out that public photography is fine, but they get to decide what can and what can not be photographed in their opinion. Early in part two it is made clear that there are no laws against photography in public places, yet the nose-picker continues to push his erroneous belief that photographing a police station - public property - is somehow closer to being a criminal act than photographing a tree in a field.
Of course, the word 'corrupt' is met with cries of disbelief and dismay. Even from the one leaning on the illegally-parked car. There is no emergency, thus no reason for exemption from the usual results of breaking the rules. But there will be no fine, no admonishment from senior officers. Not even a reminder that parking on double yellow lines is an offence. They will get away with it, as they do with numerous other offences they will commit throughout that day and every other. If there is any sort of come-back the 'blue line' will protect them. Smells like corruption to me.
Where was the tyrant's court order to take your camera, your evidence, and view it without your permission? I thought the anti-terrorism legislation had been changed because it was being abused so much in exactly this way. What we saw there were the acts of a spoiled child denied something he had no right to. His swollen ego was bruised and there had to be revenge. I sincerely hope this footage of his infantile revenge brings a very large pay-out from a civil rights lawsuit, and commensurately huge media coverage of how such wide-spread ego-driven criminality by the police serves only to alienate the public and raise everyone's taxes to pay for their selfish and unlawful behaviour.
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Prof Sakharov well said and maybe a visit by many photographers to Luton when orificer 6474 is on duty 😉😉👍🏼👍🏼