Yeah I've seen this game get hate in different places, but I'm glad I just played it for myself. Absolutely addicted, I love the gameplay loop and it's genuinely challenging. I usually don't like challenging games since I like to relax, but it feels rewarding here. There's so much game lol, and I'm ecstatic. It may not be for everyone as it is a strategy role playing game but it's great. Don't let anyone tell you it's woke, a mobile game or bad, because they haven't played it for themselves, they're just hopping on the hate bandwagon with their 'cool' hater friends.
Actualy I cant see how anyone can dislike the game. I am huge fan of Jake Solomon and I have expected a lot from the game. Yet I am absolutely stuned by the way how good the game is. Even the greatest grind parts (reagents, ability orbs, abey mysteries) is meda that I am not bored. I played the game for 10-15 hours and fight 4 missions or so and yet I had time of my gaming life talking, reading, exploring… If this will not change in further play. Midnight suns will easily be my no. 1 game of all time - and I have 30 years of gaming behind me….
@@TheGiltanas some people just look for any reason to hate on a game like this, and it's never something that makes sense. They likely haven't played it, because I'm 100% with you that if the game keeps going the way it is for me it'll be my all time number one.
@@TheGiltanas I think people hate it just purely out of spite that they wanted an XCOM 3 from Firaxis and then got a super hero theme game. If they did the same thing, just with an Alien theme I am willing to bet people would praise and love this. Yes the superheros are annoying sometimes but I totally agree with the original post. I am addicted to this fun loop of combat and then some story/exploration and balancing (at least at the beginning) the shortage of ressources vs advancement. I love that in the end you have all the time in the world for the "story missions" it seems, when you do them so you never feel pressured to do specific progression. However also, I start to believe a kind of doomsday xcom counter to indicate that you eventually should progress on story missions would help the pace of the story itself. Its too easy to get lost in just grinding side mission after side mission which negativly impacts story pacing. Maybe get rid of the doomsday counter when on newgame+ at which point you anway will likely just start skipping the dialogues anyway, so then let people grind side missions as much as they like but for the first completion make it a bit more focused story experience. I am totally happy with the game and also happy to report I have none of the performance issue on PC that people say they have and downrate for that as well. I also agree with you so far probably one of my favorite games for sure this year. I still see myself enjoying XCOM series more than this because of the modability and the never ending replay value due to mods you get out of it. But as a just vanilla experience...yes A Tier for sure for me too!
@@disguyngo Actualy its better to do both (but have source for review with similar opinions/preferences) There are some games I realy did not like to watch gameplay (phoenix point for one example) But I love to play it.
Got this game during a sale for 40% off and I'm quite happy. At first, the stuff between missions felt like a bit of a slog, but I've learned to enjoy it, and find time flying by while I play this game now. Came in as a big XCOM fan, and Marvel fan. Enjoying the two together, plus the new little nuisances that they created for this title.
I don't know about SHOULD be done, I actually do things in a slightly different order, but I think he covered all the right points... oh! Except for Agatha's bowl, should keep doing that every night when you have artifacts too (located at Agatha's shrine once unlocked)
Cheers for all the tips! I always do a sweep of the main building each morning/evdning for orbs and to read all the new books for extra lore and arcane points and to pet the dog. It all adds up!
Pretty fun game so far, the enemies are just now starting to get a bit more challenging which I've been looking forward to, now I actually have to start giving a damn about what my card combos are and who works well with who! "look good.. feel good..combat good.." Noted!
I’m loving the game in general, but exploring the abbey grounds isn’t fun to me. In fact it’s incredibly frustrating. I come across places that require words of power I don’t have yet but they don’t get marked on the map, meaning every time I get a new word of power, I will have to re-explore the ENTIRE map; a feat made difficult by the fact that it all looks pretty same-y thanks to all the trees, foliage etc.
Personally I love exploring the grounds, I'm not usually much of an explorer gamer, but it's really captured that air of wonder and mystery that some of the older Harry Potter games and Fable 1 did so well. But! That's a good bit of feedback you've given I think! You should be able to interact with those word of power symbols to have Hunter say "hmm, I see" or something and then mark it on the map for later. 100%
I agree. It’s really hard to know where to find the items for crafting. I feel if they could be spotted out easier or the map gave us a clearer indicator it would incentivize going out.
I know most of the Abby is optional, but if you want to make your characters and therefore team stronger you really need to do that stuff, But i wish there was a faster way to just get to the missions. It sort of stinks that after every mission you have to go to night then go back to day. I'd love to be able to just quick access the missions. For when I'm just grinding for materials.
I hope there's like an eventual Abby upgrade for it or something. Make it so can do 2 or 3 missions a day maybe. Cause right now that's one of my few hangups
Something missed: you'll eventually be able to open the common level chests with no key. Once that happens, there's never a reason to just leave them. Just check your map, fast travel to the lit-up common chests, and open them for a little extra stuff. You can do other chests, too, if you've got spare keys.
Instead of walking through the abbeay, I hope they'll add an option to use all the feature from a menu, without moving, once you've discovered them. It'll make everything easier, and much faster ! But for that, they'll need to keep working on the game, and patch it up, because *IT MUST BE PATCHED !*
@4:10 I found upgrading skills to be a problem. I want to upgrade a regular card for Captain Marvel. But she has four hero cards in the deck, a hero card on standby and you are not allowed to have more than four hero cards in your deck. So, I literally cannot swap out the regular card that is equipped because I can only replace it with the hero card (which remember I can only have four of) so the game tells me no-go.
The issue I have with the hero requests is, I am focusing on maximizing my dark stats and the last 12 requests (all the exact same) were going to give me light points which would set me back.
I’m about to take on the final mission and just learned I somehow missed a club meeting along the way. Emo Kids or Robbie’s Garage. I have no idea when I missed it. Definitely got the Book Clubs finished though. Wish there was a way to know when/what/where of whatever I did miss. I REALLY don’t want to replay 100hrs+ for one achievement. 🤦♂️
Why? Wait I saw on the internet that you could buy just the base edition but the others not, why ? I wanted the legendary edition becs of storm and venom and now I need to wait till 2023 when on other platforms is alr out? Why just why?
Always do a hangout session when you can, even if you don't have gifts, as you can do these infinitely and they always give XP. But there's also a fav-spot-hangout thing (can't remember its name) which each character can only do once per game. So always do hangouts, but maybe wait until you know them better to do the fav-spot-hangout thing.
@@UndgnfiedWrshpr Yeah that's them! I've only done one so far too, with Nico at the Graveyard (she didn't hate it, didn't love it). They give you a lot of XP so it might be worth doing them early, but personally I'm waiting a bit now.
@@OneWingedRose yeah, I think I will wait too. I watched another guy's video that said to wait to give them gifts until the gifts are legendary. Don't give common gifts.
Dumb long...mad cutscenes too so have your phone or computer nearby to use while you're waiting. I'm only 5 hrs in, but it is a fun game if u LOVE marvel
Honestly you guys killed it with the combat. Really such a job well done. I love it, I really do. Having said that, who the hell came up with the idea of turning the other half of the game into a superhero high school drama/Teen Titans show. How the hell did the Blade Book Club make it into the script? Please please please if you ever make more of these games for the love of all that is holy do not turn superheroes into a bunch of whiny teenagers with such lifeless dialogue. I’ve basically just started skipping all cutscenes and dialogue in the Abbey to keep my sanity.
Not being able to romance characters is the only thing keeping this game from being a 10/10 for me. Also I’m beyond excited for Storm and Venom, hopefully they’ll have just as much interactivity in the Abbey as the other characters
Apparently the Devs originally wanted to add it but I think Marvel didn't approve of the idea. Still in a previous stream, they did mention that they are supportive of shipping the characters. And some of the dialogue is very flirty at times
@@prashanthganasan7515 yeah, you can definitely tell that the thought was there, it’s a shame. I’ve definitely had Blade saying some very flirty things
That would not make any sense this characters a lot of them already have a family and in a relationship let alone pushing break your entire character because you think talking to them you too bonk up
It helps to think of it like the Normandy in Mass Effect. Where the crew interaction plays a part. That said lot of it also can be skipped or rushed past.
17 things, and I've heard that none of them are fun to do. They feel really repetitive really fast, they like a chore, but we can skip the dialogues. And for all I know, we're supposed to rush through the campaign in normal mode to get every character including Hulk, then play in whatever difficulty without spending too much time on heroes you don't want to play. So we'd have to play the game twice, which makes all the cutscenes even worse to sit through !
So you haven't played it I'm gathering😂 playing it myself and I'm having a blast man. Lots of Marvel games don't give you all the characters immediately... Have you heard of Ultimate Alliance? And yeah play the game twice, it's called replayability. These just all feel like poor faith criticisms. If it's not for you that's fine, but it just sounds like you're shitting on a game you either haven't played or have no interest in😂 what's the point of that?
Actually fixing the game would be even better, game is hard locked for 3 days now unable to play due to Blade being stuck in a Hero Op and i need him for a story mission. When i try to get the rewards from the hero op game crashes always. Game is more broken than Cyberpunk ever was at release. Contacted sony for a refund and they denied cuz i played the game more than 4 hours. Worst 100 euros ever spent, very disappointed with this piece of trash game !!!!
Your advice about picking a card from a core is pretty shit, you missed the essential rule… always pick a new card as priority, so you are able to craft it later
Its a fun game, but this video on it is.. awful. Heres the things to do each day: all the things you can do. I'm sure people are looking for specifics, such as "go to the grotto here and do this" vs "just note where you find reagents" not a retelling of the tutorials the game literally starts you off doing.
“your hunter needs to look good” ok so can we get some additional *actually good* hairs and some actually good clothing options for female characters? please
Holy shit is this an open world game with a robust af personalization system via abilities? Maybe this game is good. Worth getting? Anyone mind comparing it to another game so I have an idea before I buy it?
Yeah I've seen this game get hate in different places, but I'm glad I just played it for myself. Absolutely addicted, I love the gameplay loop and it's genuinely challenging. I usually don't like challenging games since I like to relax, but it feels rewarding here. There's so much game lol, and I'm ecstatic. It may not be for everyone as it is a strategy role playing game but it's great. Don't let anyone tell you it's woke, a mobile game or bad, because they haven't played it for themselves, they're just hopping on the hate bandwagon with their 'cool' hater friends.
Actualy I cant see how anyone can dislike the game. I am huge fan of Jake Solomon and I have expected a lot from the game. Yet I am absolutely stuned by the way how good the game is. Even the greatest grind parts (reagents, ability orbs, abey mysteries) is meda that I am not bored. I played the game for 10-15 hours and fight 4 missions or so and yet I had time of my gaming life talking, reading, exploring… If this will not change in further play. Midnight suns will easily be my no. 1 game of all time - and I have 30 years of gaming behind me….
@@TheGiltanas some people just look for any reason to hate on a game like this, and it's never something that makes sense. They likely haven't played it, because I'm 100% with you that if the game keeps going the way it is for me it'll be my all time number one.
@@TheGiltanas I think people hate it just purely out of spite that they wanted an XCOM 3 from Firaxis and then got a super hero theme game. If they did the same thing, just with an Alien theme I am willing to bet people would praise and love this. Yes the superheros are annoying sometimes but I totally agree with the original post. I am addicted to this fun loop of combat and then some story/exploration and balancing (at least at the beginning) the shortage of ressources vs advancement. I love that in the end you have all the time in the world for the "story missions" it seems, when you do them so you never feel pressured to do specific progression. However also, I start to believe a kind of doomsday xcom counter to indicate that you eventually should progress on story missions would help the pace of the story itself. Its too easy to get lost in just grinding side mission after side mission which negativly impacts story pacing. Maybe get rid of the doomsday counter when on newgame+ at which point you anway will likely just start skipping the dialogues anyway, so then let people grind side missions as much as they like but for the first completion make it a bit more focused story experience.
I am totally happy with the game and also happy to report I have none of the performance issue on PC that people say they have and downrate for that as well. I also agree with you so far probably one of my favorite games for sure this year. I still see myself enjoying XCOM series more than this because of the modability and the never ending replay value due to mods you get out of it. But as a just vanilla experience...yes A Tier for sure for me too!
That's why I don't listen to reviews and watch gameplays instead
@@disguyngo Actualy its better to do both (but have source for review with similar opinions/preferences) There are some games I realy did not like to watch gameplay (phoenix point for one example) But I love to play it.
Making cutscenes pausable would be amazing and super appreciated
Agreed
Yeah I didn't understand why they did this as it is such a story/cutscene heavy game.
And conversations, being able to make them auto or manual progression would be cool too
That’s fair
Yeah. As a gamer with a kid, sure would love a pause feature so I can stop missing things.
Got this game during a sale for 40% off and I'm quite happy. At first, the stuff between missions felt like a bit of a slog, but I've learned to enjoy it, and find time flying by while I play this game now.
Came in as a big XCOM fan, and Marvel fan. Enjoying the two together, plus the new little nuisances that they created for this title.
Glad he actually break it down in the order that should be done, really appreciate that with someone who does not have that kind of time
I don't know about SHOULD be done, I actually do things in a slightly different order, but I think he covered all the right points...
oh!
Except for Agatha's bowl, should keep doing that every night when you have artifacts too (located at Agatha's shrine once unlocked)
@@OneWingedRose should still comply with my comment and thanks for the Agatha's bowl one
Cheers for all the tips! I always do a sweep of the main building each morning/evdning for orbs and to read all the new books for extra lore and arcane points and to pet the dog. It all adds up!
Pretty fun game so far, the enemies are just now starting to get a bit more challenging which I've been looking forward to, now I actually have to start giving a damn about what my card combos are and who works well with who! "look good.. feel good..combat good.." Noted!
I’m loving the game in general, but exploring the abbey grounds isn’t fun to me. In fact it’s incredibly frustrating. I come across places that require words of power I don’t have yet but they don’t get marked on the map, meaning every time I get a new word of power, I will have to re-explore the ENTIRE map; a feat made difficult by the fact that it all looks pretty same-y thanks to all the trees, foliage etc.
Personally I love exploring the grounds, I'm not usually much of an explorer gamer, but it's really captured that air of wonder and mystery that some of the older Harry Potter games and Fable 1 did so well.
But!
That's a good bit of feedback you've given I think! You should be able to interact with those word of power symbols to have Hunter say "hmm, I see" or something and then mark it on the map for later. 100%
I agree. It’s really hard to know where to find the items for crafting. I feel if they could be spotted out easier or the map gave us a clearer indicator it would incentivize going out.
@@dionbakerjr.8736 The game really need a patch to make it better.
It has potential, but they focused their time and money on the wrong things.
@@Mad77max77 interesting.
exploring the abbey reminds me a lot of the exploration in dragon age inquisition….which is not a good thing
I know most of the Abby is optional, but if you want to make your characters and therefore team stronger you really need to do that stuff, But i wish there was a faster way to just get to the missions. It sort of stinks that after every mission you have to go to night then go back to day. I'd love to be able to just quick access the missions. For when I'm just grinding for materials.
I hope there's like an eventual Abby upgrade for it or something. Make it so can do 2 or 3 missions a day maybe. Cause right now that's one of my few hangups
This game is actually fun af. I don’t care for the dialogue honestly but I’m hooked on the combat system and style. Every fight is so different
Something missed: you'll eventually be able to open the common level chests with no key. Once that happens, there's never a reason to just leave them. Just check your map, fast travel to the lit-up common chests, and open them for a little extra stuff. You can do other chests, too, if you've got spare keys.
This game is insanely fun the abilities are amazing!
Instead of walking through the abbeay, I hope they'll add an option to use all the feature from a menu, without moving, once you've discovered them. It'll make everything easier, and much faster !
But for that, they'll need to keep working on the game, and patch it up, because *IT MUST BE PATCHED !*
@4:10 I found upgrading skills to be a problem. I want to upgrade a regular card for Captain Marvel. But she has four hero cards in the deck, a hero card on standby and you are not allowed to have more than four hero cards in your deck. So, I literally cannot swap out the regular card that is equipped because I can only replace it with the hero card (which remember I can only have four of) so the game tells me no-go.
The issue I have with the hero requests is, I am focusing on maximizing my dark stats and the last 12 requests (all the exact same) were going to give me light points which would set me back.
That was extremely helpful to get in a good flow and rhythm in the game. Thanks.
This is actually a really useful video, Thanks! - honestly don’t feel spoiler like at all, just useful
This game is what I wanted digimon survive to be. The grind in between missions is actual fun.
congrats@christopherodd for having this video featured on the developer channel for the game :)
I’m about to take on the final mission and just learned I somehow missed a club meeting along the way. Emo Kids or Robbie’s Garage. I have no idea when I missed it. Definitely got the Book Clubs finished though. Wish there was a way to know when/what/where of whatever I did miss. I REALLY don’t want to replay 100hrs+ for one achievement. 🤦♂️
I haven't done any havens because you can't do them again apparently?
Grabbing resources and reading books in the library before a mission and after a mission a so important. Also, pet the kitty.
Love the game can we get a bell for ebony because that cat is so stealthy and hard to find lol
This game is glitchy. Watch the video I uploaded for details. On Xbox series X it crashes saying it doesn't have enough video memory.
This game is so damn additive i just cannot stop playing.
Hulk should jump around the field like venom does come on guys!
making the castle bump the way the forge does 😂
This game is honestly amazing
Are we going to get some more shorts but this time with Hulk in the opening intro?
Your Hunter looks so good man. He is 100% rockin' that beard and hair combo.
So Havens need to be saved until the end of the game for a last boost to friendship with the best Leg gift as they can only be done once?
Is marvel's midnight suns out on ps4.
Next year bro maybe March times
Why? Wait I saw on the internet that you could buy just the base edition but the others not, why ? I wanted the legendary edition becs of storm and venom and now I need to wait till 2023 when on other platforms is alr out? Why just why?
@@nicolas._.2294 storm,venom, morbius and dead pool is dlc
Ps4 version comes out next year
@@deveous8629 ik the dlc, I was saying who I was exciting for
@@nicolas._.2294 ohh lol yea im excited for storm
Really enjoying the game, you guys put alot of thought into it.
What is spirituality?
@@notthechannel2 tobacco
I've done one haven with Blade (fishing) but early in the game. Should I hold off on these until I have gifts to give as well?
Always do a hangout session when you can, even if you don't have gifts, as you can do these infinitely and they always give XP.
But there's also a fav-spot-hangout thing (can't remember its name) which each character can only do once per game.
So always do hangouts, but maybe wait until you know them better to do the fav-spot-hangout thing.
@@OneWingedRose is that the haven spots? I did one where I went fishing with Blade and I think you can only do those once.
@@UndgnfiedWrshpr Yeah that's them!
I've only done one so far too, with Nico at the Graveyard (she didn't hate it, didn't love it).
They give you a lot of XP so it might be worth doing them early, but personally I'm waiting a bit now.
@@OneWingedRose yeah, I think I will wait too. I watched another guy's video that said to wait to give them gifts until the gifts are legendary. Don't give common gifts.
Does anyone knows if you can replay the history missions later to get the 3 stars if you didnt at first?
The ending O M G
I'm excited to dig into this game.
Put more marketplace skins plss like a red and pink classic Scarlet Witch and Warbird Ms.Marvel
When do the reagents regrow?
Thanks
It never allows me to invite someone to a Haven for some! I get quests every day to invite someone to one but I’m never able to!
any news about past gen realise?
My hero ops keeps crashing on me and closing me out to main menu
Pool side photo shoots 😂 my horny ass will always pause any progression when Wolverine is at the pool
One of the game of the yesr.
Is this game long ?
Yes
About 80 hours to do everything and then there's new game plus so yup.
Dumb long...mad cutscenes too so have your phone or computer nearby to use while you're waiting. I'm only 5 hrs in, but it is a fun game if u LOVE marvel
@Dave Ruby lol alot off missions?
Am I crazy or is there a variation of the MCU Avengers theme in this game?
I may or may not become addicted to this game 😅
Wow, that last scene contained a lot of spoilers. lol
Honestly you guys killed it with the combat. Really such a job well done. I love it, I really do. Having said that, who the hell came up with the idea of turning the other half of the game into a superhero high school drama/Teen Titans show. How the hell did the Blade Book Club make it into the script? Please please please if you ever make more of these games for the love of all that is holy do not turn superheroes into a bunch of whiny teenagers with such lifeless dialogue. I’ve basically just started skipping all cutscenes and dialogue in the Abbey to keep my sanity.
fire emblem three houses and pretty much any persona game is the answer, both of which are pretty popular.
If only the game had Daredevil..
And moonknight
I would be interested to see the thing or Mr fantastic honestly I would like to see that gameplay
Not being able to romance characters is the only thing keeping this game from being a 10/10 for me. Also I’m beyond excited for Storm and Venom, hopefully they’ll have just as much interactivity in the Abbey as the other characters
Same here. I'd love romance options. I found myself having amazing chemistry with Blade and Magik.
Apparently the Devs originally wanted to add it but I think Marvel didn't approve of the idea. Still in a previous stream, they did mention that they are supportive of shipping the characters. And some of the dialogue is very flirty at times
@@prashanthganasan7515 yeah, you can definitely tell that the thought was there, it’s a shame. I’ve definitely had Blade saying some very flirty things
That would not make any sense this characters a lot of them already have a family and in a relationship let alone pushing break your entire character because you think talking to them you too bonk up
@@iancruz6617 yes and no (I’m bringing nothing to this conversation)
There's fighting in this game? Running around doing all this stuff I can't see where there'd be time.
Nice
All it needs is a multiverse mode like injustice 2 and name changed to marvel unlimited the game nah just need multiverse though
The thought of wasting so much time in the Abby is keeping me from buying this game
It helps to think of it like the Normandy in Mass Effect. Where the crew interaction plays a part.
That said lot of it also can be skipped or rushed past.
17 things, and I've heard that none of them are fun to do.
They feel really repetitive really fast, they like a chore, but we can skip the dialogues. And for all I know, we're supposed to rush through the campaign in normal mode to get every character including Hulk, then play in whatever difficulty without spending too much time on heroes you don't want to play. So we'd have to play the game twice, which makes all the cutscenes even worse to sit through !
So you haven't played it I'm gathering😂 playing it myself and I'm having a blast man. Lots of Marvel games don't give you all the characters immediately... Have you heard of Ultimate Alliance? And yeah play the game twice, it's called replayability. These just all feel like poor faith criticisms. If it's not for you that's fine, but it just sounds like you're shitting on a game you either haven't played or have no interest in😂 what's the point of that?
This game would have been perfect had they went for a XCOM style combat system instead of using a silly card system
Actually fixing the game would be even better, game is hard locked for 3 days now unable to play due to Blade being stuck in a Hero Op and i need him for a story mission. When i try to get the rewards from the hero op game crashes always. Game is more broken than Cyberpunk ever was at release. Contacted sony for a refund and they denied cuz i played the game more than 4 hours. Worst 100 euros ever spent, very disappointed with this piece of trash game !!!!
Reload a previous game save?
Hi thank you for everything again to everyone again
Your advice about picking a card from a core is pretty shit, you missed the essential rule… always pick a new card as priority, so you are able to craft it later
That’s actually not accurate. Once you open a card you can craft it whether you pick it or not.
Its a fun game, but this video on it is.. awful. Heres the things to do each day: all the things you can do. I'm sure people are looking for specifics, such as "go to the grotto here and do this" vs "just note where you find reagents" not a retelling of the tutorials the game literally starts you off doing.
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This game is so boring to me, not enough combat, a lot of filler content
“your hunter needs to look good” ok so can we get some additional *actually good* hairs and some actually good clothing options for female characters? please
Yaw doing too much… i love the game, but gathering is tedious as hell…
Please add *Red Wolf*
(Marvel’s first Native American superhero)
*Red Wolf* fits perfect with the Midnight Suns
Please make it a life service game
There is should not be guide for this type of things. People cannot handle it themself from actually playing the game? For what audience this for?
Its already dumbed down too, with these bland convos instead of an interesting strategy layer, for what...
Holy shit is this an open world game with a robust af personalization system via abilities? Maybe this game is good. Worth getting? Anyone mind comparing it to another game so I have an idea before I buy it?
Late but would say it's great. Gameplay is sorta xcom like, with rp sections similar to Mass Effect.