I think he means the idea of recasting him is polarizing because everyone loved him. some people would rather they just left him out rather than recast, which in some ways I can understand, It will be hard to see anyone match his performance, but I also think the story will suffer hugely for it if they don't. not that season one had much of a story besides setting up season 2, but still.
Well, Kathy Kennedy had no problem with Rian Johnson doing just that, for the follow-up to, The Force Awakens. Thankfully, cooler, saner heads are prevailing...at least with regard to the Filoni-Favreau material, which will include, Skeleton Crew, in the late Fall of 2024.
Sometimes shows and movies do that. That is legitimately a thing that happens sometimes when an actor dies, and the creative team decides to let the character die with them, see Black Panther's death in the MCU after we lost Chadwick Boseman for a recent example. I wouldn't have objected either way, to be honest, it's a choice that has mixed feelings no matter which way you go, and I don't envy anyone who has to make those calls.
@@BKF0308 I don’t think 5” is gonna make a difference, especially since they can get height extenders, and I’d rather have someone from the uk or Ireland
@@lawrencereid2767 As life tends to be when such things happen... It's amazing how strong of a legacy the actor managed to leave in such a short time in the franchise.
@@cameronprice4922 Headland has already confirmed no Tenebrous. Why I say what I say about Abeloth because Qimir has mentioned a lot of things that pertains to her. He's mentioned dreams, he has a mask that looks like a creepy smile like her. I think he's a dark side cultist that worships her.
@@DarksideGmss0513That's an interesting thought, his mask does have that same smile. But if that's the case, how do you think he found out about Abeloth in the first place?
@@strikerboss2812 The witches. They are a dark side cult. Also they seem to have the power of possession because we saw them use their power and that one guy's eyes turned black. And think about it if Mother Anissaya cut a deal with Abeloth to create the twins she wouldn't' want that to get out. I think Abeloth is going to kill everyone. Sol, Qimir, Ohsa, and Mae.
“Baylan Skrol was a polarizing character “??? Even the folks I know who hated Ahsoka thought that he was the best part of the show. Ray Stevenson died, folks, that’s why they need to recast.
Well we kinda knew it was coming. Whoever they get will literally have some big shoes to fill. Ray had a certain presence that I don't think anyone can replace, but hopefully someone can do justice to.
Dude just completely made the end of this video up. He wasn't polarizing, the actor died. He was one of the most consistently well received parts of the series.
The Mother is Aboloth, that would be really cool, I think it was said in the EU that the Father, Son and Daughter were keeping Aboloth in a prison for thousands of years, but because they were killed in the clone wars series Aoboth is now free to torment the galaxy. I personally believe that during the time of the Ahsoka series Anakin has taken over as the new father of Mortis and might need Ahsoka’s help to put Aboloth back in her prison.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 it’s possible he will get both Luke and Ahsoka to work with him, however Luke’s encounter with Abeloth will leave him mentally scared and the catalyst for him becoming the old hermit we see in the sequel trilogy.
@fazbrogaming7776 Would be interesting. But it seemed the situation with Kylo is what broke him. But it would make more sense for Luke if he fought Abeloth before Kylo. If he did I could see why he would do what he did.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 It would help explain, barely, why he was so ready to kill his nephew just because he sensed a darkness in him. If he fought some primordial evil that gave him ptsd that would make him act impulsively.
The EU was cool but it had it's fair share of problems including the Mother. The whole Mother thing is kinda dumb as the whole point of the Mortis Gods was that there was the Father (balance) the daughter (light) and the son (darkness) and there was no mother because the mother was supposed to be the force. Abeloth being the mother is based on the authors of those EU books not getting the point of the characters in the first place. Could easily be fixed though by rewriting/retconning her to be a false mother, and her calling herself "the mother" being a blasphemy of the force which would fit with her being chaos incarnate since chaos would want to destroy and replace balance.
@@Sam_T2000 Anyone can be made to look taller for movies/shows, just look at Ton Cruise who is a relative midget in real life. And it's not like Ray Stevenson could've fit into a size zero dress, actors gain and lose weight for roles all the time so who knows what Cunningham is at right now.
@@mikepatton8691 - by “fat” I mean he doesn’t have the right build… Stevenson was built like a superhero, Cunningham is built like a regular dude 🤷🏻♂️
Rip Ray Stevenson for just bringing an amazing character for us... Hope u'll rest in peace forever! I kinda hope if they find a actor that looks sorta the same then im happy with it, as the story wasent completed in season 1. Prob wasent able to finish shooting the story for Baylon due to Ray's death... rip
@@danielnemesio3388 It's funny because he looked more like Luke than the deepfake. One example of a rare good deepfake was the Tarkin one in Rogue One. People say it looks weird, but I've never seen it. First couple of times I watched it, it didn't even occur to me that the original actor died decades ago until watching behind the scenes stuff. I was like "wait wha- I mean of course! How did I not piece it together?"
@forikspro-8383 There were a ton of polls which showed fans across the board wanted the dude from Marvel who plays Bucky to take over the role. He even said he would. For some reason Disney didn't use him.
Recasting him will be so difficult. I think theyd be best off having him return and wear a helmet for some reason. Then they can just get him to be a voice. Itll be impossible to replace Baylan.
Balan was the least bad thing in Ahsoka, which is a shame since they didn't do much with him, but here we are. Why'd they recast him is simply beyond me. Unless the actor tragically passed away, I see no reason to recast. If he did, then RIP because he was the best part of the show. (Actually, I think I remember hearing news about that, which is very unfortunate.)
I’m glad they’re recasting him. Hard decision to be sure, but it’s far better to recast the role rather than try and repurpose unused footage, back of the head shots, AI/CGI etc.
Sean Bean. Say all you want about him dying all the time, but you cannot deny the presence he can bring on screen. He has that knight-like warrior gravitas that we have seen on LOTR and GOT, and it is something integral to how the character of Baylan carries himself.
If I have some advice, the "Other Darrin" better be neatly excused by some necessary soul transference, akin to what Palpatine would have done with baby Anakin Solo in the Dark Empire comics. With this in mind, will it be woefully temporary, which means lots of soul transferences and therefore lots of hopefully versatile actors? Anyways, more relevant news: any thoughts on the Bounty Hunter remaster for the PC, even with wariness on Aspyr's pary?
Recasting is absolutely the right choice. The character is too important not to. It's unfortunate the actor died, but these things happen and I doubt he would want them to dispose of his character after how hard he worked to bring him to life.
Let's not forget Anakin Skywalker is now the most powerful, strongest, fastest, and smartest character ever of all time in the history of Star Wars after dying and becoming one with the Force. He became a unique force ghost/force wielder. And both of his lives as Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader were combined, fused, merged, and mixed into one, allowing him to reach his true full potential power, achieve true perfect balance in the Force, and finally fulfill the prophecy of the Chosen one destined to bring balance to the Force. By destroying the sith So yeah, I say it. If it's the mother, Anakin is going to help Ahsoka Tano, maybe give her the dagger of Mortis. That might hurt her or kill her.
basically, hes taking up his role as the father, with the daughter ahsoka, the unnamed male villain is the son, and it would be badass if we get sam witwer
I hope we can get darth krayt at some point or dark asharad hett at some form leading some form of dark order. We need to see him come out of stasis to help fight abeloth.
There was nothing "polarizing" about the Baylan character. He was the one character everyone appreciated. Yeah, it's unlikely that everyone will like whoever is recast for the part, but there's no argument that Baylan should return. Liev Schreiber maybe.
My old fan casts were Liev Schreiber and Gerard Butler. My all new fan casting is Josh Holloway (who played Sawyer in lost). He's only four years younger than Ray Stevenson. He's about 6cm shorter, but I think he could pull it off. These are my top three for now. I shall continue my search.
In EU the mother was Abeloth yes. With that said, the Mother could be portrayed in any type of way in Canon. It would be cool if it’s Abeloth but I’d hold up on saying that mother=abeloth
I really don't care if they do a season 2 but if they do, recasting Baylon should be done. His story seemed very important. He and Shati were the best thing about the show even if I didn't like where any of it went.
For people who missed all the drama, Baylan became a polarizing character in the community AFTER the show. Everyone liked him in the show; that wasn't the issue. The issue was that with Ray dead, the community immediately split after the show about what to do with his Baylan Skoll Character. Should they give up on him (and by extension the entire awesome story he was setting up for) or recast him and continue the story with another actor.
While it’s sad that Balan is been recast it’s not exactly a shock I mean he is dead they really only gives them 2 options (well 3 but the third is impractical aka hire another actor and stick rays face on him and if this isn’t just as a cameo that’s going to get stupidity experience and would probably look odd to) so option 1 forget the character exists “”he walked off into the wilds and was never seen again”” not very satisfying, or option 2 they find someone that looks close enough or that has that same presents on screen (a hard task no mater what option they pick).
Recasting Baylan is a must. They have barely scratched the surface of this character’s potential. I disagree that he was a polarizing character. The character and Ray’s performance seem to be the most universally praised aspect of the show from what I’ve observed.
Why do so many tv dramas and movies have that darkness to them, where apparently the sun never shines and always has a dark blue filter? Doesn't anything have any variety of colors and not have it be so depressing? The horrible Dune remakes did that as well, and it seems like so many are following that example.
Large chunks of Dune are set in a blindingly bright desert and the unnaturally white filter used Oneida Prime for narrative reasons. The rest of the time they’re in caves.
@@1jidionSean Bean just screams this character is going to die. I think he's only had like 3 movies he didn't. Troy, National Treasure, and like one other.
What’s wrong with Recasting? Babylon was a great and important character. I think Mandiverse suffers because they refuse not the include Luke & Leia in it more. Makes it feel insular and disconnected from the OT. For all the flaws of Dtar Wars Legands, at least the OT characters actually continued doing important things. Not merely have their characters freeze or relapse (like Han) until the Sequels. Same for the world building.
This is weirdly refreshing in the era of Disney's visual replacements. It's easy to say they should give Baylan a soft write-off, but given Filoni's comments about him off screen, I think this is what Ray would have wanted for the character.
I’m still gutted Ray Stevenson passed away he was imposing and had a gravitas as Baylan Skoll which was impressive and Star Wars needs more than stars they need proper actors,on a tangent the Sith in acolyte he plays the role brilliantly
The Sith in the Acolyte is bad. The writing is terrible. He literally comes out of nowhere. I didn't care for his character at all. The actor comes off as trying too hard to be intimidating. Baylan's original actor was far superior. He was a villain I wanted to see more of. Had real gravitas.
Baylan was the coolest damn thing from that show. His lightsaber would sell!!! For sure!!! As for my fancast recommendation….Hmmmm…. Maybe if George Clooney bulked up a bit and grew a kickass beard….?
Part of me is sad that they're recasting Baylan after Ray Stevenson's stellar performance, he really was fantastic, but it does make sense, and there isn't really a better solution. This is one of those "Making the best out of the situation we're in" creative choices that's a damned shame when it happens.
My vote to replace Ray Stevenson: Vincent Regan. Yes, Abeloth is on the way. Wonder if the new male villain is some alien species new to this other galaxy and Peridea? Imagine if he ends up being Rakatan or Zeffo!
Best thing they could do with the situation. Still tragic, Ray was my favorite performance in season one as Baylan, almost impossible shoes to fill. But a better alternative than dropping the character and taking another direction entirely.
Please recast him... I like to think that is what Ray would have wanted. Its ok to do this... imo it shows great respect for the character and the actor who initially brought that character to life.
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Baylon was a polarizing character?! What?! Whether you enjoyed or disliked the show he was the one universally liked (if not loved) element!
I think he means the idea of recasting him is polarizing because everyone loved him. some people would rather they just left him out rather than recast, which in some ways I can understand, It will be hard to see anyone match his performance, but I also think the story will suffer hugely for it if they don't. not that season one had much of a story besides setting up season 2, but still.
had the same reaction, he didn't express it accurately in the video. probably meant the recasting idea was polarizing.
But the issue of his character for me is we knew nothing of what he was trying to do
Yea, he was the only good part for sure, despite bad writing.
@@Spelljammer1AI script is my guess :(
Zero surprise. What else were they supposed to do, just drop the entire story after all of Season 1 was setting it up?
I think people are more worried it was going to be some deepfake forgery, which people have been getting progressively more and more tired with.
Well, Kathy Kennedy had no problem with Rian Johnson doing just that, for the follow-up to, The Force Awakens. Thankfully, cooler, saner heads are prevailing...at least with regard to the Filoni-Favreau material, which will include, Skeleton Crew, in the late Fall of 2024.
I'd prefer it yes but we can't get everything we want in life
Sometimes shows and movies do that. That is legitimately a thing that happens sometimes when an actor dies, and the creative team decides to let the character die with them, see Black Panther's death in the MCU after we lost Chadwick Boseman for a recent example.
I wouldn't have objected either way, to be honest, it's a choice that has mixed feelings no matter which way you go, and I don't envy anyone who has to make those calls.
Black Panther 2....
Liev Schreiber is just the perfect choice
sean bean?
@@1jidion He's too short. Liev literally has the same height Ray had.
That’s an interesting idea. 🤔
@@BKF0308 I don’t think 5” is gonna make a difference, especially since they can get height extenders, and I’d rather have someone from the uk or Ireland
He kind of looks like if Ned Luke and Ben Shapiro had a child. 😭
Recasting Baylan would be the best move to serve the story.
Edit: Skipped the "y" in his name... Shameful...
But sad
@@lawrencereid2767 As life tends to be when such things happen... It's amazing how strong of a legacy the actor managed to leave in such a short time in the franchise.
John Krasinski
I think they should do a Fromsoft and have him get corrupted into an unrecognizable monster
It's more important to respect him than to make a show that has the purpose of making money
this better be a horror movie type thing when they show the mother because it is going to be creepy
I think they're going to show her at the end of the acolyte.
@@DarksideGmss0513I highly doubt it. But we might see tenebreous.
@@cameronprice4922 Headland has already confirmed no Tenebrous. Why I say what I say about Abeloth because Qimir has mentioned a lot of things that pertains to her. He's mentioned dreams, he has a mask that looks like a creepy smile like her. I think he's a dark side cultist that worships her.
@@DarksideGmss0513That's an interesting thought, his mask does have that same smile. But if that's the case, how do you think he found out about Abeloth in the first place?
@@strikerboss2812 The witches. They are a dark side cult. Also they seem to have the power of possession because we saw them use their power and that one guy's eyes turned black. And think about it if Mother Anissaya cut a deal with Abeloth to create the twins she wouldn't' want that to get out. I think Abeloth is going to kill everyone. Sol, Qimir, Ohsa, and Mae.
“Baylan Skrol was a polarizing character “??? Even the folks I know who hated Ahsoka thought that he was the best part of the show. Ray Stevenson died, folks, that’s why they need to recast.
Well we kinda knew it was coming.
Whoever they get will literally have some big shoes to fill.
Ray had a certain presence that I don't think anyone can replace, but hopefully someone can do justice to.
Dude just completely made the end of this video up. He wasn't polarizing, the actor died. He was one of the most consistently well received parts of the series.
We should be proud of them for being brave enough to recast. Glad they will let the character live on
I would've said Clancy Brown if he wasn't already in Ahsoka.
Imagine they cast George Clooney lmao
Came to post the exact same thing. He’d have been perfect.
They MIGHT be able to pull it off if they change his appearance a bit but it’s unlikely
Heh, the return of Kurgan.
dude live action abeloth??? what the fuck
abeloth is one of my favourite characters just because she is so mysterious
Bro ashoka not making it out in s2
@@N7-mk4bb how do you know?
@@ironwar8501 In legends it took luke and darth krayt they need a jedi and a sith to beat her
@@N7-mk4bb idk, making assumptions is pretty stupid at this point
@@N7-mk4bb What about Anakin, he can show up to fight Abeloth like he did in Exegol to save Luke.
The role isn't being recast because he was polarizing, it's because the Original actor died.
It's a shame The Son is dead. Sam Witer playing The Son in live action would have been awesome.
The Mother is Aboloth, that would be really cool, I think it was said in the EU that the Father, Son and Daughter were keeping Aboloth in a prison for thousands of years, but because they were killed in the clone wars series Aoboth is now free to torment the galaxy. I personally believe that during the time of the Ahsoka series Anakin has taken over as the new father of Mortis and might need Ahsoka’s help to put Aboloth back in her prison.
The problem is Anakin would need someone as powerful as Luke or Krayt to do so. Unless Anakin in his new role transcended Luke.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 it’s possible he will get both Luke and Ahsoka to work with him, however Luke’s encounter with Abeloth will leave him mentally scared and the catalyst for him becoming the old hermit we see in the sequel trilogy.
@fazbrogaming7776 Would be interesting. But it seemed the situation with Kylo is what broke him. But it would make more sense for Luke if he fought Abeloth before Kylo. If he did I could see why he would do what he did.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 It would help explain, barely, why he was so ready to kill his nephew just because he sensed a darkness in him. If he fought some primordial evil that gave him ptsd that would make him act impulsively.
The EU was cool but it had it's fair share of problems including the Mother. The whole Mother thing is kinda dumb as the whole point of the Mortis Gods was that there was the Father (balance) the daughter (light) and the son (darkness) and there was no mother because the mother was supposed to be the force. Abeloth being the mother is based on the authors of those EU books not getting the point of the characters in the first place. Could easily be fixed though by rewriting/retconning her to be a false mother, and her calling herself "the mother" being a blasphemy of the force which would fit with her being chaos incarnate since chaos would want to destroy and replace balance.
Graham McTavish would make a great fit.
Now he give up his kings Guard white clock he should replace it with black one instead
The one who resemble Ray from his hairlines, beard, height, and broadness is the guy whom potrayed Brasso from Andor series.
@@darthpapa696 True, but I'm guessing it would be a quick no to having an actor in two different SW shows.
Liam Cunningham, who played Davos Seaworth in Game of Thrones, would be the best choice to play Baylon Skoll IMHO.
too short and fat…
good actor for sure, appropriate for _Star Wars_ at some point, but not this role.
@@Sam_T2000 Anyone can be made to look taller for movies/shows, just look at Ton Cruise who is a relative midget in real life. And it's not like Ray Stevenson could've fit into a size zero dress, actors gain and lose weight for roles all the time so who knows what Cunningham is at right now.
@@mikepatton8691 - by “fat” I mean he doesn’t have the right build… Stevenson was built like a superhero, Cunningham is built like a regular dude 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sam_T2000 In what world is Liam Cunningham FAT?!?!
You need to see a therapist for body dysmorphia, Sam.
Ah, "The Onion Knight," one of my favorite characters from that show. :)
I’m curious what you mean by saying Baylan was a polarizing character? Wasn’t he like the only part of Ahsoka that was universally liked?
I concur. He was superb. A good Jedi who has rejected the path.
I thought the episode with Anakin was universally liked too?
Baylan was the best thing about Ahsoka. That actor had gravitas. Unlike the Acolyte Sith lord who appears out of nowhere.
The mother. . . So a connection with Qimir’s smiling helmet 🤔
I want season two to feel like a H.P lovecraft story.
Good luck to whoever is casted as Baylan
In what way was the character "polarizing"?
Abeloth in live action will either be amazing, or horrible. If Disney screws this up, they will never hear the end of it.
They should just recast him with George Clooney. Give him some Jedi nipple suit and he would be all in!
Liev Schreiber or Kevin R. McNally would be perfect. I could see both inhabiting the role.
YES!!!! Kevin McNally is HANDS DOWN my favorite celebrity crush!!!
David Harbour would fit the suit
Gerald Butler for just the look
throws the lightsaber like a spear and screams like leonidas mid combat
"THIS IS STAR WARS!!!" *kicks dude into a hole
“LETS GET HIM SOMETHING TO DRINK!”
FINALLY SHES HERE.
Rip Ray Stevenson for just bringing an amazing character for us... Hope u'll rest in peace forever!
I kinda hope if they find a actor that looks sorta the same then im happy with it, as the story wasent completed in season 1. Prob wasent able to finish shooting the story for Baylon due to Ray's death... rip
Kevin McKidd should be the one.
Ohhh yessss! Actors shouldn't own the roles
They should have pulled the band aid early and let the other guy play Luke instead of the deepfakes
@@danielnemesio3388 Indeed! I suppose fandom is guilty for that,after Solo.
@@danielnemesio3388 It's funny because he looked more like Luke than the deepfake. One example of a rare good deepfake was the Tarkin one in Rogue One. People say it looks weird, but I've never seen it. First couple of times I watched it, it didn't even occur to me that the original actor died decades ago until watching behind the scenes stuff. I was like "wait wha- I mean of course! How did I not piece it together?"
@forikspro-8383 There were a ton of polls which showed fans across the board wanted the dude from Marvel who plays Bucky to take over the role. He even said he would. For some reason Disney didn't use him.
@@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524 Probably didnt fit the mold, since its a white male, portraying a white male
DID THAT GUY JUST SAY THE MOTHER?!
Picture this George clooney
Honestly, after the Acolyte, I'm so grateful for Ahsoka. Bring on Abeloth
Recasting him will be so difficult. I think theyd be best off having him return and wear a helmet for some reason. Then they can just get him to be a voice. Itll be impossible to replace Baylan.
"The Mother"
Oh no
Kevin Mckidd should take over the roll
Love Kevin McKidd but it would be strange to see Vorenus take over for Pullo.
Who would be a good replacement
Balan was the least bad thing in Ahsoka, which is a shame since they didn't do much with him, but here we are. Why'd they recast him is simply beyond me. Unless the actor tragically passed away, I see no reason to recast. If he did, then RIP because he was the best part of the show. (Actually, I think I remember hearing news about that, which is very unfortunate.)
Yes, he died 3 months before the first Ahsoka episode came out
Didn't know dying is considered polarising now.
Mel Gibson as Baylan... and recast Thrawn with Jason Isaacs. Automatic win.
I’m glad they’re recasting him. Hard decision to be sure, but it’s far better to recast the role rather than try and repurpose unused footage, back of the head shots, AI/CGI etc.
I'm not surprised but nobody can ever truly replace Ray.
RAY SKYWALKER
This is more exciting than anything I’ve seen this month!
If he wasn't already Qui-Gon I think Liam Neeson could've made a great Baylan. And Helena Bonham Carter should portray Abeloth.
Are you telling me that they didn't even start with shooting and just thinking about recast? Jesus.....we will have to wait another like 2 years.
Dominic Purcell as Baylan Skoll.
So hyped for Abeloth rumors. At the end of S1 that’s where my brain went to but I decided not to believe myself because I didn’t wanna get excited.
Very cool. Baylon was a great character we certainly need more of. Will just always be a shame Ray Stevenson passed away, he really nailed it.
If they are still looking for a Baylan Skoll replacement at this stage, then wtf have they been doing? Look no further than Dominic Purcell btw
Sean Bean. Say all you want about him dying all the time, but you cannot deny the presence he can bring on screen. He has that knight-like warrior gravitas that we have seen on LOTR and GOT, and it is something integral to how the character of Baylan carries himself.
If I have some advice, the "Other Darrin" better be neatly excused by some necessary soul transference, akin to what Palpatine would have done with baby Anakin Solo in the Dark Empire comics. With this in mind, will it be woefully temporary, which means lots of soul transferences and therefore lots of hopefully versatile actors?
Anyways, more relevant news: any thoughts on the Bounty Hunter remaster for the PC, even with wariness on Aspyr's pary?
Recasting is absolutely the right choice. The character is too important not to. It's unfortunate the actor died, but these things happen and I doubt he would want them to dispose of his character after how hard he worked to bring him to life.
Glory Hallelujah.
Let's not forget Anakin Skywalker is now the most powerful, strongest, fastest, and smartest character ever of all time in the history of Star Wars after dying and becoming one with the Force. He became a unique force ghost/force wielder. And both of his lives as Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader were combined, fused, merged, and mixed into one, allowing him to reach his true full potential power, achieve true perfect balance in the Force, and finally fulfill the prophecy of the Chosen one destined to bring balance to the Force. By destroying the sith So yeah, I say it. If it's the mother, Anakin is going to help Ahsoka Tano, maybe give her the dagger of Mortis. That might hurt her or kill her.
basically, hes taking up his role as the father, with the daughter ahsoka, the unnamed male villain is the son, and it would be badass if we get sam witwer
I hope we can get darth krayt at some point or dark asharad hett at some form leading some form of dark order. We need to see him come out of stasis to help fight abeloth.
There was nothing "polarizing" about the Baylan character. He was the one character everyone appreciated. Yeah, it's unlikely that everyone will like whoever is recast for the part, but there's no argument that Baylan should return. Liev Schreiber maybe.
They have to have Baylon in the story. They have to.
It’s a damn shame about Ray. Loved him since Rome. RIP!
The character was absolutely charismatic. The story needed a continuation... as they say, Show must go on!
My old fan casts were Liev Schreiber and Gerard Butler. My all new fan casting is Josh Holloway (who played Sawyer in lost). He's only four years younger than Ray Stevenson. He's about 6cm shorter, but I think he could pull it off. These are my top three for now. I shall continue my search.
Brendan Fraser is exactly the right height and stature. Looks nothing like Ray, but just saying.
They should cast the mother with kathleen kennedy. Although the mother cant quite capture the pure evil of kennedy
Thank God they won't try to cg him
In EU the mother was Abeloth yes. With that said, the Mother could be portrayed in any type of way in Canon. It would be cool if it’s Abeloth but I’d hold up on saying that mother=abeloth
Can’t wait to see how they f this up
Baylan wasn't polarizing as far as I can tell, its the decision to recast him that is.
They better do The Mother right. Cheshire fanged grin and all the horror on display.
I really don't care if they do a season 2 but if they do, recasting Baylon should be done. His story seemed very important. He and Shati were the best thing about the show even if I didn't like where any of it went.
For people who missed all the drama, Baylan became a polarizing character in the community AFTER the show. Everyone liked him in the show; that wasn't the issue. The issue was that with Ray dead, the community immediately split after the show about what to do with his Baylan Skoll Character. Should they give up on him (and by extension the entire awesome story he was setting up for) or recast him and continue the story with another actor.
Recast him however put him in a mask!!!
No. This mask business is getting boring now.
I mean. They have to. They can’t, and Ray’s irreplaceable, but they have to.
While it’s sad that Balan is been recast it’s not exactly a shock I mean he is dead they really only gives them 2 options (well 3 but the third is impractical aka hire another actor and stick rays face on him and if this isn’t just as a cameo that’s going to get stupidity experience and would probably look odd to) so option 1 forget the character exists “”he walked off into the wilds and was never seen again”” not very satisfying, or option 2 they find someone that looks close enough or that has that same presents on screen (a hard task no mater what option they pick).
I’ve been WAITING to see Abeloth in canon so if this turns out to suck someone gonna get hurt
Recasting Baylan is a must. They have barely scratched the surface of this character’s potential. I disagree that he was a polarizing character. The character and Ray’s performance seem to be the most universally praised aspect of the show from what I’ve observed.
I think this is the best decision to both honour Ray's legacy and for the sake of the story
Abeloth in Canon Star Wars would be so cool!
I wouldn’t be mad if they nerfed her
@@thomaspaine7098 I agree. There probably is no way around it either.
I think they should bring him back to life with medical practises or use AI
Why do so many tv dramas and movies have that darkness to them, where apparently the sun never shines and always has a dark blue filter? Doesn't anything have any variety of colors and not have it be so depressing? The horrible Dune remakes did that as well, and it seems like so many are following that example.
Yeah it’s getting annoying. It was absolutely horrendous in Solo
The dune movies were great wdym
Ah yes "the horrible Dune remakes" 😅 But I do agree that blue filter is unpleasant
Large chunks of Dune are set in a blindingly bright desert and the unnaturally white filter used Oneida Prime for narrative reasons. The rest of the time they’re in caves.
The first scene of Dune pt2 couldn’t be more orange, what are you on about 🤣
They should cast the mountain from Game of Thrones😂
The guy who played the Hound would be better.
John Krasinski bears a resemblance, although he is much younger.
Makeup
I’d love him to play a younger Baylan in flashbacks or a spinoff
he’s got a very youthful voice, too… I don’t think it would work.
Liev Schreiber would be perfect
him or sean bean
Nah Graham mctavish is perfect for Baylan
@@1jidionSean Bean just screams this character is going to die. I think he's only had like 3 movies he didn't. Troy, National Treasure, and like one other.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 there’s snowpiercer tv series, he didn’t die in that
Gerard Butler would be better
What’s wrong with Recasting? Babylon was a great and important character. I think Mandiverse suffers because they refuse not the include Luke & Leia in it more. Makes it feel insular and disconnected from the OT.
For all the flaws of Dtar Wars Legands, at least the OT characters actually continued doing important things. Not merely have their characters freeze or relapse (like Han) until the Sequels. Same for the world building.
I kinda just assumed that Shin Hati would serve as some sort of vessel for Abeloth to be honest. Baylon seemed to be using her for a higher purpose.
Cate Blanchett as Ableoth, or I one man riot!!
This is weirdly refreshing in the era of Disney's visual replacements. It's easy to say they should give Baylan a soft write-off, but given Filoni's comments about him off screen, I think this is what Ray would have wanted for the character.
In this case recasting Baylan is completely reasonable but the actor who plays him must be very respectful to the character which he made.
I’m still gutted Ray Stevenson passed away he was imposing and had a gravitas as Baylan Skoll which was impressive and Star Wars needs more than stars they need proper actors,on a tangent the Sith in acolyte he plays the role brilliantly
The Sith in the Acolyte is bad. The writing is terrible. He literally comes out of nowhere. I didn't care for his character at all. The actor comes off as trying too hard to be intimidating. Baylan's original actor was far superior. He was a villain I wanted to see more of. Had real gravitas.
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Graham McTavish would be the perfect recast.
I wonder if the new guy will play a role in further developing Baylan’s character like Ray did for season 1.
What if Baylan found a fountain that makes him younger? So another actor can fill his role
Baylan was the coolest damn thing from that show. His lightsaber would sell!!! For sure!!!
As for my fancast recommendation….Hmmmm…. Maybe if George Clooney bulked up a bit and grew a kickass beard….?
Part of me is sad that they're recasting Baylan after Ray Stevenson's stellar performance, he really was fantastic, but it does make sense, and there isn't really a better solution. This is one of those "Making the best out of the situation we're in" creative choices that's a damned shame when it happens.
Thank God, there will be a season 2.
I’m fine with him being recast. Though Ray will be very hard to top. And omg they’re doing Abaloth???!!! That’s awesome! And terrifying.
Seeya in 2026 or Seven for Season 2. Its a slow process.
My vote to replace Ray Stevenson: Vincent Regan. Yes, Abeloth is on the way. Wonder if the new male villain is some alien species new to this other galaxy and Peridea? Imagine if he ends up being Rakatan or Zeffo!
Benjamin Byron Davis as Baylon? (Dutch from Red dead)
I always thought Craig Fairbrass would be a good cast for Baylan, similar height and build.
If Disney can recast Baylan, why couldn't they recast T'Challa?
Take the 180 million from Acolyte and spend it doing total CG/AI of Stevenson as Baylan with his families consent.
Best thing they could do with the situation. Still tragic, Ray was my favorite performance in season one as Baylan, almost impossible shoes to fill. But a better alternative than dropping the character and taking another direction entirely.
Please recast him... I like to think that is what Ray would have wanted. Its ok to do this... imo it shows great respect for the character and the actor who initially brought that character to life.