YOU PERFECTLY HIT THE "viel and esme felt like the only characters who mattered" NAIL ON THE MARK I couldn't tell what stuck out to me or felt wrong with errondle to me (TO BE CLEAR I LIKED ERRONDLE IT JUST FELT LIKE IT STUCK OUT TO ME) I think it's good to take a step back sometimes and take a break from your favorite characters to develop other characters because their personalities will truly shine is when they got other characters near them to showcase it and showcase how the other characters react too
I really needed video like this. I recently got fixated on building social appearance, posting more about my ocs, just overall stressing myself over this ( especially now since bluesky blow up). I really like watching your content ,your voice is really comforting and easy to focus. Overall process of creating story is hard and time consuming, and sometimes because of perfectionism is hard to even try. I'm really admire you for trying! When I found you I was curious about your webcomic so I checked it out. To be honest more interesting your oc were in your viedos- I mean in sense I was curious about them! But when I read ur webcomic I was really confused, but really wanted to stick to this because your so passionate about this! Thank you for creating and don't be to hard on yourself! Take care and good luck!! (sorry for my English)
Take all the time you need to create and recreate your comic, Fang! Don't be too harsh on yourself. Acknowledging a mistake is the first step to becoming contented with your characters, story, and skill over all. Your work has had a huge impact on my own art and your streams always brighten my day! Don't put too much pressure on yourself, you said it yourself that it's your first webcomic, you don't have to make it perfect on your first go. Can't wait to read what you come up with from now on for Erondelle ♡︎ !!!
oops I'm watching this after the redraw stream and I have more context to that now but I'm putting my two cents in anyways LMFAO absolutely love erondelle but yeah, I agree it was lacking in substance and cohesion. I tried recommending it to one of my friends (aka made her read it while we were coming back from a field trip) aaand she finished it within a few minutes without anything to say about it. I feel like the rocky start could've been glossed over if we got to a point where we could understand what was going on, but all we learned was that there was a plague, there's a lab, and esme has something to do with finding the cure for the illness/disease--with the latter being confusingly tacked on by a random page including viel's mom without context. I feel like if there had been more than just literally 1 panel including her, it would've made more sense LMAO, but again just a critique on the execution of the story? show don't tell, which you nailed with victoria's panicked ramblings when she woke up, but not so much with esme. I feel like it could've still worked if esme had just shown up; we get vaguely informed that there was some kind of plague that deeply affected the characters and bam, someone with a lab coat shows up. we can infer at that point that esme's some kind of doctor or scientist, ykwim? and on cohesion, the breaks between pages felt like hard cuts at some points. for example, paloma telling victoria that all she has to worry about is breakfast, then the next page victoria's eating something, we don't know what, before esme shows up at the door, or going from esme telling victoria to tie up her bull to her already tying him to the fence. I think that contributed to the pacing feeling off and leaving less room for reflection on what had happened. you could've committed a page to victoria struggling to even get torta (is that his name??? fake fan sorry I don't remember) to move, then some frames of her leading him out. you could've crammed her reflection of esme's attitude on her into that sequence, since she was vaguely hostile towards her then dismissed her by telling her to go deal with torta, thus making her sit back and be like "man she's always been passive-aggressive" that all being said!! I do really like the characterization we do see in the first version of erondelle. we get a really clear read on victoria, that's she anxious/troubled and almost nerdy, as well as esme. paloma is less concrete, but she gives off fair-weather friend vibes or generally wants to brush all troubles aside. we can tell that esme's almost a place of authority against victoria, or that she's at least condescending and dismissive to the people she doesn't entirely like, you get my point. know that all of this is coming from a place of wanting to see erondelle succeed more on it's second go around! I really do enjoy the characters and I'm curious to see how everything will play out, I just wanted to air out some criticism as you start over again to hopefully keep in mind. it's been in the back of my mind for a while but I didn't want to come off harsh when you were just barely starting with the story, but I'd rather say it now since you're taking a step back to reframe things and think more about the story. this iteration of the comic was by no means bad, just flawed, with plenty of good art and characters to try and make up for it. I'm excited to see where this goes and remember that it's okay to take as much time as you need to both work on the comic and work on the story, you've got a small but strong community waiting here for you :3
I really like this video, especially your breakdown of what makes indie projects successful, as well as hearing about your experiences with webcomics! Also I checked out Erondelle After Dark and it's so adorable so far!! So excited to see more about the characters :) I hope your experience working on the story and restarting Erondelle goes well and that you have fun with it!
ngl i actually had a comic that failed in almost the exact same way! while i watched a bunch of youtube videos before i started work on it, i jumped into making chapters way too soon and miscalculated how much i needed to write before making pages, and when i started noticing plot holes the story became so complicated with me trying to fill them as i was uploading new pages i am now currently working on a new webcomic that's a gag a day instead of story driven, and am also working on a different story driven group project that's an au for a manga. i do plan to eventually remake that failed webcomic, but i want to wait until i have actual experience so it doesn't fail again
Haven't finished the video but game developers giving larger creators access codes to their games IS marketing.. now hundreds & thousands of people will hear about their game. Its just not a traditional advertisements. But I heavily agree with the rest of your points!
I literally just was about to try double subscribing when I got to about 6 minutes in, I totally agree and am facing somewhat similar issues with my own story that's been in creation for about a year now and yet I haven't even officially wrote or even have a plan to finish it and over this past week I've been slowly gravitating away from it & trying to figure out a new story to obsess over. I might come back to my project later since I've put so much time into it, it has so much potential & I still love the characters.. i just no longer feel the passion to continue. Anyway, i haven't been doing much this past month and trying to do better so, Happy creating everybody!
Creation takes time, I understand you really well. I started my story right after I finalized Lorelei's (my oc) design.😅 Take all the time you need, and work in a pace that suits you. You are already doing amazing.❤❤❤
2:24 OMG HOMESTUCK MENTIONED????? the fandom js still going strong it's insane 2 hear about it in videos or by people, also fun fact Toby fox worked for Andrew hussie on making music from his webcomic so half of his audience for undertale was from homestuck :3!!!!!
What brush do you use? I was going on a scavenger hunt to try to find if someone else asked but literally couldn't find one PLS UR BRUSHES ARE SO AWESOME!!!
Man so relatable. I managed to get my webtoon at 130 readers but just got knocked down to 8.5 rating. I guess the journey of ups and downs is the commitment
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YOU PERFECTLY HIT THE "viel and esme felt like the only characters who mattered" NAIL ON THE MARK I couldn't tell what stuck out to me or felt wrong with errondle to me (TO BE CLEAR I LIKED ERRONDLE IT JUST FELT LIKE IT STUCK OUT TO ME) I think it's good to take a step back sometimes and take a break from your favorite characters to develop other characters because their personalities will truly shine is when they got other characters near them to showcase it and showcase how the other characters react too
I really needed video like this. I recently got fixated on building social appearance, posting more about my ocs, just overall stressing myself over this ( especially now since bluesky blow up). I really like watching your content ,your voice is really comforting and easy to focus. Overall process of creating story is hard and time consuming, and sometimes because of perfectionism is hard to even try. I'm really admire you for trying! When I found you I was curious about your webcomic so I checked it out. To be honest more interesting your oc were in your viedos- I mean in sense I was curious about them! But when I read ur webcomic I was really confused, but really wanted to stick to this because your so passionate about this! Thank you for creating and don't be to hard on yourself! Take care and good luck!! (sorry for my English)
Take all the time you need to create and recreate your comic, Fang! Don't be too harsh on yourself. Acknowledging a mistake is the first step to becoming contented with your characters, story, and skill over all. Your work has had a huge impact on my own art and your streams always brighten my day! Don't put too much pressure on yourself, you said it yourself that it's your first webcomic, you don't have to make it perfect on your first go. Can't wait to read what you come up with from now on for Erondelle ♡︎ !!!
oops I'm watching this after the redraw stream and I have more context to that now but I'm putting my two cents in anyways LMFAO
absolutely love erondelle but yeah, I agree it was lacking in substance and cohesion. I tried recommending it to one of my friends (aka made her read it while we were coming back from a field trip) aaand she finished it within a few minutes without anything to say about it. I feel like the rocky start could've been glossed over if we got to a point where we could understand what was going on, but all we learned was that there was a plague, there's a lab, and esme has something to do with finding the cure for the illness/disease--with the latter being confusingly tacked on by a random page including viel's mom without context.
I feel like if there had been more than just literally 1 panel including her, it would've made more sense LMAO, but again just a critique on the execution of the story? show don't tell, which you nailed with victoria's panicked ramblings when she woke up, but not so much with esme. I feel like it could've still worked if esme had just shown up; we get vaguely informed that there was some kind of plague that deeply affected the characters and bam, someone with a lab coat shows up. we can infer at that point that esme's some kind of doctor or scientist, ykwim?
and on cohesion, the breaks between pages felt like hard cuts at some points. for example, paloma telling victoria that all she has to worry about is breakfast, then the next page victoria's eating something, we don't know what, before esme shows up at the door, or going from esme telling victoria to tie up her bull to her already tying him to the fence. I think that contributed to the pacing feeling off and leaving less room for reflection on what had happened. you could've committed a page to victoria struggling to even get torta (is that his name??? fake fan sorry I don't remember) to move, then some frames of her leading him out. you could've crammed her reflection of esme's attitude on her into that sequence, since she was vaguely hostile towards her then dismissed her by telling her to go deal with torta, thus making her sit back and be like "man she's always been passive-aggressive"
that all being said!! I do really like the characterization we do see in the first version of erondelle. we get a really clear read on victoria, that's she anxious/troubled and almost nerdy, as well as esme. paloma is less concrete, but she gives off fair-weather friend vibes or generally wants to brush all troubles aside. we can tell that esme's almost a place of authority against victoria, or that she's at least condescending and dismissive to the people she doesn't entirely like, you get my point.
know that all of this is coming from a place of wanting to see erondelle succeed more on it's second go around! I really do enjoy the characters and I'm curious to see how everything will play out, I just wanted to air out some criticism as you start over again to hopefully keep in mind. it's been in the back of my mind for a while but I didn't want to come off harsh when you were just barely starting with the story, but I'd rather say it now since you're taking a step back to reframe things and think more about the story. this iteration of the comic was by no means bad, just flawed, with plenty of good art and characters to try and make up for it. I'm excited to see where this goes and remember that it's okay to take as much time as you need to both work on the comic and work on the story, you've got a small but strong community waiting here for you :3
I really like this video, especially your breakdown of what makes indie projects successful, as well as hearing about your experiences with webcomics!
Also I checked out Erondelle After Dark and it's so adorable so far!! So excited to see more about the characters :) I hope your experience working on the story and restarting Erondelle goes well and that you have fun with it!
ngl i actually had a comic that failed in almost the exact same way! while i watched a bunch of youtube videos before i started work on it, i jumped into making chapters way too soon and miscalculated how much i needed to write before making pages, and when i started noticing plot holes the story became so complicated with me trying to fill them as i was uploading new pages
i am now currently working on a new webcomic that's a gag a day instead of story driven, and am also working on a different story driven group project that's an au for a manga. i do plan to eventually remake that failed webcomic, but i want to wait until i have actual experience so it doesn't fail again
When you said 'Homestuck' my head perked up :DDD
Haven't finished the video but game developers giving larger creators access codes to their games IS marketing.. now hundreds & thousands of people will hear about their game. Its just not a traditional advertisements. But I heavily agree with the rest of your points!
I literally just was about to try double subscribing when I got to about 6 minutes in, I totally agree and am facing somewhat similar issues with my own story that's been in creation for about a year now and yet I haven't even officially wrote or even have a plan to finish it and over this past week I've been slowly gravitating away from it & trying to figure out a new story to obsess over. I might come back to my project later since I've put so much time into it, it has so much potential & I still love the characters.. i just no longer feel the passion to continue. Anyway, i haven't been doing much this past month and trying to do better so, Happy creating everybody!
Creation takes time, I understand you really well. I started my story right after I finalized Lorelei's (my oc) design.😅 Take all the time you need, and work in a pace that suits you. You are already doing amazing.❤❤❤
The music in the background makes me wanna cry from nalstalja
yippie new fangfury vid to watch while in class !
YEAHHHHHH B))))
2:24 OMG HOMESTUCK MENTIONED????? the fandom js still going strong it's insane 2 hear about it in videos or by people, also fun fact Toby fox worked for Andrew hussie on making music from his webcomic so half of his audience for undertale was from homestuck :3!!!!!
Oh my gosh that’s crazy but so cool !! I had no idea and suddenly that explains so much 😭
@@furyfanged YE IT DOES HOMESTUCK HAS A LOT OF CONNTECTS TO HOMESTUCK ALONG EITH REFS IN THE GAME ITSELF 2 HOMESTUCK WHICH I LUVVVVVV
YESSSSSSSSSS PEAK VID THE DISCORD IS BACK SOON AND YIPPEPEPEPEPPEE YUMMU ART
What brush do you use? I was going on a scavenger hunt to try to find if someone else asked but literally couldn't find one PLS UR BRUSHES ARE SO AWESOME!!!
whatever you do i just can't wait to read erondelle im just already hooked on it and want to see its development through
Man so relatable. I managed to get my webtoon at 130 readers but just got knocked down to 8.5 rating. I guess the journey of ups and downs is the commitment
yoo that's awesome washington sir! care to link it? I'd prolly wanna catch a read
this is the comic of all time
Why on earth would you release a video at this time😭 (or did it just take a while
I SCHEDULED IT WRONG 😭💔