I’ve been on Milwaukee’s sight a lot and I get confused every time and end up not buying anything out of fear of not getting what I wanted. This is exactly the video I needed thank you!
@@DynoDieselWagon used it all year on removing mower blades for my lawn care business weekly, I rotate my own tires, etc. I sold it to my neighbor who does lawn care as well, just got the latest. No problems at all.
@@Lakecenterlawncare I have the mid torque myself and work on vehicles for a living. What I noticed is that if the battery is not 100% it will struggle with removing stubborn fasteners. Suspension bolts are hit or miss. If you can get it on the fastener with the shortest socket possible, it will crack it loose after some effort. Brake caliper bracket bolts are a no if you have to use an extension or universal socket/adaptor. Or if the manufacturer uses loctite. What I also noticed was whenever I got a vehicle in where a hulk overtightened the lug nuts (happens 4-10 cars) I have to end up reaching for my big boy impact anyway. So basically, I bought it and barely use it because I end up using my HT 1/2 for most scenarios.
Thank you. I wouldn't have noticed this, when buying one for my dad. He wants the big boy and almost bought the 450 lb one. One $50 dollar difference, almost didn't catch it
I absolutely agree with you! I work on vehicles and smaller equipment and just started looking at the M18 Impacts. After a few hours of searching through all the info, I came to the conclusion that the 2767 was the best choice. While looking for the best price, I found a kit. I'm going with the 2767-22GG! It has the 2767 impact, grease gun, 2 batteries, charger and carrying case. This is my 1st Milwaukee purchase and need the batteries anyways. The grease gun just happens to be a bonus! Thank you for explaining the madness
The mid torque will do 98 percent of what your average person on an y car will do,I have the compact,the stubby,the mid,and high,I reach for the midtorque almost always
@@scottbulach it depends a lot on the type of work you are doing. A heavy equipment mechanic may have more of a need for the high-torque model. If you work in a tire shop and are handling the tool all day for lighter applications, the mid-torque is more appropriate. For the average home mechanic who is not rebuilding engines and removing crank bolts, etc. and is mostly rotating tires or changing brake pads, the mid-torque is more than sufficient.
Have you ever worked on a vehicle? You hardly ever need the power of a full size high torque impact. And you’re dealing with constrained spaces, that don’t require a lot of breakaway torque. This is where those compact and mid torque comes in. A well equipped person has more than one impact. Personally I have 3 different sized ones. And I use the smallest one the most often.
A lot of our work is heavy equipment and semi trucks, so the 2767-20 works great for us. We have used it for smaller vehicles as well for suspension parts etc. We run it on setting 2 when tightening bolts and are careful to not over tighten. We agree the mid torque is more ideal for auto techs who work on cars/SUVs. If we had to choose only one we would go the 2767-20 as it really covers all your bases. Having both the mid torque and high torque would be ideal, but most guys just buy one.
Fabrication Guy You’re right there on point though, first Milwaukee impact I ever bought is the M18 1/2” 2767-20 the power it has is “Scary” for someone who got his first experience with high torque battery operated impact wrenches, tool is stunning in every aspects all ways around! They say: every tool has its own pros & cons, well, I tried this 2767-20 and I couldn’t figure something bad in it, the design, the built, size & torque wise, everything is really good in it. they say it’s huge and bulky! Well, for a high torque impact (the highest torque actually for 1/2” impacts out there) its the most compact sized tool, moreover I’ve got the M18 1/2” Mid-Torque 2861-20 impact with 1.5ah battery (used & in very good condition) for only $60, few days ago, I’ve checked a listing on FB for the same 2861-22CT it’s a kit, tool, 2 batteries 1.5ah & 4ah batteries, charger and case like new condition for just $180! With this price, I couldn’t help to ignore it just cuz I had the same one lol, I really like the 2861-20 as well, and I does has the right amount of torque needed for right application, I use’m on my sedan, SUV, & minivan, the mid torque works there just pretty well, also has 3- torque/speed settings which offers the impact tool a good range of applications to get the work done, from heavy duty to simple tasks! It comes handy and indeed very reliable impact.
@@diamond_spotlight Way I see it I want the high torque for those situations that you know we deal with being in the the Midwest salt belt. But yes I have a smaller impact driver actually that I use for the tight spaces and being much lighter.
Got the 2663 5 years ago for 100 dollars new bare tool and still using it now. Good enough for tire rotation and some around the house work. Just added Milwaukee m12 stubby for 90 dollars bare tool. I am happy with the choice I made.
@@gsc2866 Absolutely correct. I have the same tool as you. Different model number here in Australia but identical tool. I bought mine 10 years ago when the FUEL Brushless models were just being released. It was the latest model then. This clown would have you believe that they’re all current models. When I bought mine, Milwaukee’s 450 ftlb was the most powerful impact wrench on the market. Another thing. We can’t purchase the older versions as they haven’t been available for many years. I got mine close to the end of their run.
@@gsc2866 yeah this guy sounds like a high horse riding snob. He acts like getting a lower end, but highly capable for most people tool is getting "scammed." 400ftlb is plenty of torque for most people that aren't using this this commercially.
have you ever used these tools?.... the mid torque 2860-20 is half the price of the 2767 and will do 99% of any job you will ever need to do on a vehicle... its the best all around gun.
Thanks for the breakdown on the lineup, i was going to say you must not work in a automotive industry but in the end you referred to heavy equipment which now i understand why you recommended the biggest impact.
I think the mid torque is perfect for 99% of DIY people. The high torque is far too powerful, bulky, and heavy for most people unless they work with heavy machinery like agriculture, airplanes, etc...
As a DIY’er on my small fleet of used vehicles here in Michigan, I finally sprung for an impact. I thought I did my research and felt the M12 stubby would be all I needed. Imagine my disappointment the first time I used it to break a lug nut. I had to use the ‘ole breaker bar with my new impact laying next to me on the driveway. Now… that was a wheel I never took off before. When I use it on a wheel that I put on, meaning it is torqued properly with anti seize on the threads, it does work. It just takes a few seconds to get moving. I still don.t like it. I want them lugs to zip off like I’m working a NASCAR pit stop. I also found that axle nuts to the wheel bearings are also a chore to remove with this gun AND the nuts on the struts to the steering knuckle. I will keep that stubby, but I want the 2767 because I can’t imagine thinking, “Darn, this works too good.” I do not tighten anything with impacts, so over torquing will never be an issue for me.
Right on. I got the 2767 first and then got the 1/2" stubby. The stubby does 95% of what I need in a lightweight package but when I need the power, it's nice to have the big boy. I've heard of the mid torque failing to remove fasteners too often. The IR 7152 does seem to have the 2767 beat from the reviews I've seen though.
The 2767 is amazing. But beware, thats a lot of power. When I first used it I snapped a wheel stud so fast I figured out quick to use the lower settings first.
That thing is a beast extremely powerful and I can say from personal experience it is more powerful than dewalt dcf899 high torque impact. Also to take note using Milwaukee bigger HD and HO 6-8-9-12 ah batteries gives it even more umph.
Just to clarify another difference between the pin vs friction ring that's rarely mentioned ... torques are lower on the pin type models as they are a tad weaker than their friction ring counterparts. The pin requires a small hole in the anvil to fit the tension spring & pin assembly while the friction ring anvil is one solid unit. That's why Milwaukee dialed the torques back a bit on the pin models, it was to protect against anvil breakage. Pin anvils are preferred in applications where the socket is rarely changed and desired torque values are within the design limits of the tool such as in a production line setting. There's nothing wrong with pin type anvils, just be mindful of the application before purchase.
These are the exact questions I needed answered.!! Thanks Man..!!! This video helped me decide/confirm the one I wanted/needed. Keep up the great work..!!! (thumbsup)
The mid 2860-20 is no miss lead.. awesome impact i rarely find something it cant get off quick. For every day cars and trucks its very well capable and not to big
They all have there place. It’s like saying you need one club to play golf. Just get the one that hits the ball the furthest. Non brushless = old tech. Brushless = new with different models for different jobs and different budgets.
Honestly I would buy the 2863, which is the same as the 2767, but has One-key as well. One-key looks like a gimick but it actually gives you a ton of control over the tool, and with some playing around you can really dial it in for different applications. Then pick up one of the stubby impacts for tight spaces. The 1/2 has, depending on what 220 means, more breakaway torque then the 2755 @ 250ft-lbs in the 1/2 drive. These 2 will do everything you need to on a vehicle.
Your video is the one that’s misleading. First off, each one of them have their own purpose. If you’re a mechanic and only working on cars and SUV mostly, majority will prefer the 2860 and since it’s a whole lot lighter, more compact that the 2767 and can breakaway 95% of anything in the vehicle that requires it. This video is very biased not an actual review.
I agree the 2860 can be a great impact if you only work on cars and weight and fatigue is an issue. However the majority of people buying these impacts are using them as general impacts to replace their pneumatic impacts for all types of projects. With the adjustable torque setting presets that each model offers, getting the 2767 and adjusting it down to the right torque setting for their application would be best for most users. This would allow them to still have the high torque capacity if they need it and not have to bust out an air compressor.
Ehh, if you’re doing timing chains or belts you’ll want the big daddy. I’ve even got weighted crank sockets to help with that. I only use my 1/2 impact gun for wheels and crank pulley bolts. Everything else i use a 3/8 impact. This video helped me cause I wanted the correct impact that is the strongest. The strongest Milwaukee impact blows away every other cordless impact I’ve ever had or used. I’ve had all gens of snap on, nicad and lithium ion. I’ve had Mac, I’ve used Matco. None come close to the 2767 as far as breaking things loose.
I absolutely agree the mid talk for most people for 90% of jobs is definitely the way to go more compact and enough for most people. Second Tool I would get would be the high impact 1/2”.
Good info here, the line-up is confusing buyer beware. The 2755 has 220 ft-lbs of fastening torque but is still only for lighter jobs. I have the Gen 2 High Torque you recommend (2767) with friction ring anvil it is nice, just started using it. I noticed at least on mine that when you move if from upright to 90° working position there seems to be slight motor movement about 1/8" if I were to guess, none of my other Milwaukee impact wrenches have that internal movement.
I use the stubby 1/2 almost everyday in a class 8 diesel shop and my high torque I've use like 1 time 🤷 granted the shop has a dedicated impact for lug nuts
I can appreciate the sentiment here. The 2663/2662 are Heavy and outdated models that either need discontinued or drastically lowered in price to continue to exist. The 2763 is still a good impact if the price reflects the older technology, I can appreciate you pointing out this model aswell. BUT.......Your complete dismissal of the 2755b & the 2860 is a bit over the top. Every one of these Models has a place and purpose. Personally I skipped the compact in favor of a 3/8 & 1/2 version of the m12 stubby because I am also in that battery platform, but the m18 compact is in my fathers tool box because he is m18 only and it’s necessary to have a small impact. I also have both the 2763 & 2767 high torques because I once had the same mindset as you..........before I actually tried a mid torque. I decided to try the mid torque because I was tired of ruining fasteners with the overkill power of the high torques. The mid torque is now my “go-to”. It does 99% of what a average person needs one to do and is literally half the size/bulk of any of the high torque models. I wouldn’t give up my high torque, as I do still need it from time to time, but now I wish I would have discovered the mid first and then I would have bought a 3/4 and skipped the 1/2 high torque. I understand, I used to have the same line of thinking you do, and both the 2763&2767 are great, but you gotta tell all the facts or you’re just misleading your viewers.
Thank you for all the information. I brought a Bauer I believe is the name and charged it up and took it right back. On the box it said it had 450 pounds of nut busting torque but yet it wouldn’t even take my Lugnuts off my Nissan Rogue I torqued to 90 foot pounds. LOL. I going to buy a Milwaukee thank you again
the 3/4 " is way better along with the new 1/2" drive right angle impact wrench,,,not ratchet ,,, I have both and these two take care of 99% of my needs from lawnmower to heavy equipment
This is very informative but I think the mid torque with 450-600 ft lbs is plenty for what 99% of DIY people will need. The problem with those high torque units is that you eventually run the risk of breaking lots of bolts and its too heavy and bulky to use anywhere near the engine bay. In fact, I think the Stubby, which you didn't review, is a great complement to the mid or high torque unit.
@WHO WHO WALKWA . I was able to remove the axle nuts in my car set at 240 lbs or torque with my mid-torque. They had never been removed in the car's 12 year history. What else are you trying to remove from your car that is tighter than the maximum 650 lbs of torque with the mid-torque unit?? Lug nuts should be set at 80-90 lbs of torque. You can get the torque unit but in my opinion is too much power for a DIY person working on a regular car. But hey, get the one that makes you happy. As far as the engine bay the issue that you're going to run into is space. I'll probably pick up the new ratcheting wrench when it goes on sale to work around the engine bay.
@@MrSupernova111 Thanks for this comment. I'm new to all this but it didn't make sense to me that the only consideration in this video seemed to be 'more power, more good'. I had heard that 450lbs was enough for most car work, including suspension work.
@@black_n5492 . Yep. More power is often more desirable but it comes at a cost. Unless you're driving a large commercial vehicle its unlikely that you'll ever need more than the mid torque. You should see a lot of deep discounts this time of the year as well. Good luck!
@@MrSupernova111 yea! I just got a a combo deal and was watching videos to see if I should be feeling buyer’s remorse 😅. I feel much better about my decision now. It’s mostly for work around the house and getting into some car projects
I have the Gen 3 M18 fuel 1/2 inch high torque. That thing is potent be careful or you will overtighten your tire lugs. As for compact impact wrenches, consider an M12 3/8 stubby which I have is great for tight spaces and it is amazing.
I just bought the (model 2863-20) 1/2" High Torque Impact brushless M18 Fuel one key, friction ring, it has fastening torque of 1,000 ft-lbs and 1,400 ft-lbs nut-busting torque. This is TOOL ONLY, no batteries or charger. The one key lets you create custom programs for the selector keys. Purchased from Home Depot.
I agree with this but on sale i got the 2663 and a 2457 ratchet with charger and battery's for 200 at home depot hard to beat, so should take care of most of my tasks.
I own the same impact wrench and use it to take well rusted nuts and bolts off of farm equipment. Love it. Where can I get one of those Milwaukee charts like you showing, it has a lot of good info on it. Thank you
Dont know why you tell people to stay away from the mid torque? I'm a mechanic and have the 3/8 stubby impact, high torque, and mid torque and many more impacts, but I use the mid torque most of the times. Maybe what you're trying to say is if people only have one option they should go with the high torque.
I just got a 2 pack including 2x2676-20 with 2x6.0 batteries for $500 before taxes from the Home Depot. I split it with a buddy so for $250, I think we each got a smoking good deal.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Milwaukee makes some damn fine impact wrenches. I have watched reviews until I am blue in the face and Milwaukee is always at the top if not #2 in real world comparisons. I'm more than happy for my weekend warrior of a mid-torque driver for sure. Nice video btw!!
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Great video. Have to remove the axel nut that is stuck and looked online and was super confused... after looking and adding/removing all of milwake impact, finally ordered from home depot the 2767 20. Wondered if i made the right choice due to all the ones i seen... then i came accross this video, thanks, no confused and happy i made the licky choice
The 2860-20 is the smallest in size for the 650 breaking. And if your working on cars and small trucks its really all you need. One of them and the right angle impact that does 220 break away. Would be all you need for automotive.
I have the 2767. Do road side assist. Have only had two lug nuts that it wouldn’t take off. What I’m interested in the the torque specs of #1, #2,and #3 button settings. Had a customer complaint saying I over torqued it and the next shop snapped a lug and couldn’t remove two. I was super careful and double checked with a bar that they where snug. Had it on #3 and stop when it makes noise.
Dope,, Thanks my friend! I didn't realize they had that many models of impacts, let alone the 1/2" selection. Kinda funny cuz I just got my first Milwaukee tool (gen3 1/4" imp/driver). I own dewalt everything BUT I always wanted Milwaukees impacts! It was worth the extra money for a new battery platform just for the one impact lol
I have Milwaukee everything....all 3 gen impact drivers and drills....but they just sit in the toolbox looking pretty.....too heavy and uncomfortable for all day use....i always reach for the makita or Hitachi drivers....
I bought the 2767-21b. Not sure why its a -21b instead of -20. Maybe its the most current model? Anyone know? I figured it out, 21b is for the kit that comes with a 5 ah battery and charger with case. Same inpact as the 2767-20.
I used to get the pneumatic drill to get the nuts the cordless couldn't get, now I use the cordless to do what the pneumatic cant...in fact, I only use cordless now.
jajajaja cubano por aqui me alegra saber que hay mujeres que se interesan por herramientas de trabajo juguetes que solo casi solo los hombres anhelan jajaja pero no estoy de acuerdo con el tipo que pone el video porque por lo general si vas a trabajar en tu carro no te hace falta el mas grande que es muy pesado y que ademas puede sin problema ninguno aflojar las tuercas de un camion...tienes un camion?? si lo tienes comprado pero para la casi mayoría de las personas el de torque medio es mas que suficiente.
I bought the 2662-20 and did not use it for a long time and the first time I used it to take wheel lugs nuts out on my Corolla the tool stopped working( motor runs but end socket does not turn). I called customer support and they said they will charge me as much as buying the tool new if not more considering I have to pay shipping charges as the tool is outside warranty. Today I took the tool apparent and found 4 1/4” ball completely broken in half and this why the motor runs but not the socket end. I think this is by design if you try yo remove nuts that is beyond torque capability. So I don’t recommend any of these tools because they break if the nut is stuck due to rust or whatever. Also Milwaukee customer support was a waste of time and insisted that their tools don’t break under these conditions. Absolute lie and never again will I by or recommend to anyone to buy these electric torque tools especially if repair costs more than the purchase price. Last these tools have strong spring inside which you have to compress to put the tool back inside the plastic housing and it took hours to figure out a way to put the tool together.
I do know that the 2860-20 is almost half the size of the 2767 (excluding the handle), I own both but use the 2860 90% of the time, the 2767 is the last resort, but I have it when I need it.
Thanks this was very informative, do you have a video on which M12/M18 stubby to get?? Because the 2767-20 would be a bit overkill for general auto mechanical work. lol
The difference is the price lol. I have the 2662 I bought like almost 2 years ago with 2 battery's, charger in the blow mold case and I only paid 330$ on Amazon which was a killer deal it was brand new to. There like almost 400$ everywhere else still. But the fuel one is prob like 500$ at least with the same style kit with the 2 batteries, charger in the blow mold case.
2755-20 1/2" small impact is good for if you need to reach into tight areas and need to use an extension. Auto mechanics love the 3/8" version, and it can make sense to buy the 1/2" version considering you lose less toque when using an extension because 1/2" extensions are thicker than 3/8".
Yeah true. It all really depends on your setup and the work you do. I use the 3/8 stubby M12 for all my stuff in tight areas and it works really well. I have a set of 3/8 shallow impact sockets and I can get that impact just about anywhere.
Just bought the 2663-20 then saw your video. Should I return it im having second thoughts. I’m not a major car person just occasional diy fixes when they come up. But I saw reviews of it struggling even with lug nuts removal. Thoughts?
Well this didn’t age well…. Your top pick ended up being pulled off the shelves a couple month ago. Lucky for me I waited until the “B” version was released and Milwaukee packaged a battery and bag with it for a great price.
I've got the 2762 which is probably a mid torque model, but five years ago I was under the impression that it was the top dog. I've been underwhelmed with its power. I only use it to change snow/summer tires twice a year for three vehicles..............so 24 tires a year. I often need to loosen the lug nuts with a bar before using the Milwaukee. I don't know if that's normal, or my gun is a little weak. Either way, it's definitely not the 1400 ft/lbs I now long for.
Update. Shortly after my last comment I realized that the slow speed setting is also a low torque setting. Once I switched to the high RPM mode I had plenty of torque. I was going to update my comment but couldn’t remember the video.
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Please do this for dewalt and makita as well!
I’ve been on Milwaukee’s sight a lot and I get confused every time and end up not buying anything out of fear of not getting what I wanted. This is exactly the video I needed thank you!
Just do your research before buying anything more than you're uncomfortable spending #itsfree
I just bought the 2861-20 mid torque at the Home Depot for $165 and it’s a beast! All I need for automotive and lawn care work.
But for how long ?
@@DynoDieselWagon used it all year on removing mower blades for my lawn care business weekly, I rotate my own tires, etc. I sold it to my neighbor who does lawn care as well, just got the latest. No problems at all.
@@Lakecenterlawncare I have the mid torque myself and work on vehicles for a living. What I noticed is that if the battery is not 100% it will struggle with removing stubborn fasteners. Suspension bolts are hit or miss. If you can get it on the fastener with the shortest socket possible, it will crack it loose after some effort. Brake caliper bracket bolts are a no if you have to use an extension or universal socket/adaptor. Or if the manufacturer uses loctite. What I also noticed was whenever I got a vehicle in where a hulk overtightened the lug nuts (happens 4-10 cars) I have to end up reaching for my big boy impact anyway.
So basically, I bought it and barely use it because I end up using my HT 1/2 for most scenarios.
Thank you. I wouldn't have noticed this, when buying one for my dad. He wants the big boy and almost bought the 450 lb one. One $50 dollar difference, almost didn't catch it
I absolutely agree with you! I work on vehicles and smaller equipment and just started looking at the M18 Impacts. After a few hours of searching through all the info, I came to the conclusion that the 2767 was the best choice. While looking for the best price, I found a kit. I'm going with the 2767-22GG! It has the 2767 impact, grease gun, 2 batteries, charger and carrying case. This is my 1st Milwaukee purchase and need the batteries anyways. The grease gun just happens to be a bonus! Thank you for explaining the madness
The mid torque will do 98 percent of what your average person on an y car will do,I have the compact,the stubby,the mid,and high,I reach for the midtorque almost always
What are you trying to say
@@MrJaywood911 buy the Midtorque
I get 3/8 drive for mid torque.
For the price why would you not get the best one they sell?
@@scottbulach it depends a lot on the type of work you are doing. A heavy equipment mechanic may have more of a need for the high-torque model. If you work in a tire shop and are handling the tool all day for lighter applications, the mid-torque is more appropriate. For the average home mechanic who is not rebuilding engines and removing crank bolts, etc. and is mostly rotating tires or changing brake pads, the mid-torque is more than sufficient.
It all depends on what you're working on. I work on busses. High torque is a must have.
Geeze man, you saved my life! Milwaukee has a horribly long list of impact wrench. I takes people a whole day to realize the difference.
Have you ever worked on a vehicle? You hardly ever need the power of a full size high torque impact. And you’re dealing with constrained spaces, that don’t require a lot of breakaway torque. This is where those compact and mid torque comes in. A well equipped person has more than one impact. Personally I have 3 different sized ones. And I use the smallest one the most often.
A lot of our work is heavy equipment and semi trucks, so the 2767-20 works great for us. We have used it for smaller vehicles as well for suspension parts etc. We run it on setting 2 when tightening bolts and are careful to not over tighten. We agree the mid torque is more ideal for auto techs who work on cars/SUVs. If we had to choose only one we would go the 2767-20 as it really covers all your bases. Having both the mid torque and high torque would be ideal, but most guys just buy one.
Fabrication Guy
You’re right there on point though, first Milwaukee impact I ever bought is the M18 1/2” 2767-20 the power it has is “Scary” for someone who got his first experience with high torque battery operated impact wrenches, tool is stunning in every aspects all ways around! They say: every tool has its own pros & cons, well, I tried this 2767-20 and I couldn’t figure something bad in it, the design, the built, size & torque wise, everything is really good in it.
they say it’s huge and bulky! Well, for a high torque impact (the highest torque actually for 1/2” impacts out there) its the most compact sized tool, moreover I’ve got the M18 1/2” Mid-Torque 2861-20 impact with 1.5ah battery (used & in very good condition) for only $60, few days ago, I’ve checked a listing on FB for the same 2861-22CT it’s a kit, tool, 2 batteries 1.5ah & 4ah batteries, charger and case like new condition for just $180! With this price, I couldn’t help to ignore it just cuz I had the same one lol, I really like the 2861-20 as well, and I does has the right amount of torque needed for right application, I use’m on my sedan, SUV, & minivan, the mid torque works there just pretty well, also has 3- torque/speed settings which offers the impact tool a good range of applications to get the work done, from heavy duty to simple tasks! It comes handy and indeed very reliable impact.
@@diamond_spotlight I have a brand new 2767-20 I'll sell or trade for a mid-torque!
@@diamond_spotlight Way I see it I want the high torque for those situations that you know we deal with being in the the Midwest salt belt. But yes I have a smaller impact driver actually that I use for the tight spaces and being much lighter.
Get an IR 35max impact. Look it up
Got the 2663 5 years ago for 100 dollars new bare tool and still using it now. Good enough for tire rotation and some around the house work. Just added Milwaukee m12 stubby for 90 dollars bare tool. I am happy with the choice I made.
There is nothing wrong with the 2663 lol this guy sounds insane I use the 2663 to work on cars works just fine
@@gsc2866 Absolutely correct. I have the same tool as you. Different model number here in Australia but identical tool. I bought mine 10 years ago when the FUEL Brushless models were just being released. It was the latest model then. This clown would have you believe that they’re all current models.
When I bought mine, Milwaukee’s 450 ftlb was the most powerful impact wrench on the market.
Another thing. We can’t purchase the older versions as they haven’t been available for many years. I got mine close to the end of their run.
@@gsc2866 yeah this guy sounds like a high horse riding snob. He acts like getting a lower end, but highly capable for most people tool is getting "scammed." 400ftlb is plenty of torque for most people that aren't using this this commercially.
Any Milwaukee tool sold on Amazon does not come with a warranty. Just an FYI.
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@@slawomirlech950 OK
I have the first impact on the list. Works great for everything I do. Non heavy equipment no semi trucks. I do maintain a f350, does great.
have you ever used these tools?.... the mid torque 2860-20 is half the price of the 2767 and will do 99% of any job you will ever need to do on a vehicle... its the best all around gun.
THANK YOU!!! That was the video I was looking for. Awesome video man. Thanks again!
Thanks for the breakdown on the lineup, i was going to say you must not work in a automotive industry but in the end you referred to heavy equipment which now i understand why you recommended the biggest impact.
I think the mid torque is perfect for 99% of DIY people. The high torque is far too powerful, bulky, and heavy for most people unless they work with heavy machinery like agriculture, airplanes, etc...
Got the 2763 when it vame out years ago and it has NEVER failed me!
Dam just my luck I bought the 2763 in 2017 4 months before they launched the 2767 model. Still love this thing tho!
As a DIY’er on my small fleet of used vehicles here in Michigan, I finally sprung for an impact. I thought I did my research and felt the M12 stubby would be all I needed. Imagine my disappointment the first time I used it to break a lug nut. I had to use the ‘ole breaker bar with my new impact laying next to me on the driveway. Now… that was a wheel I never took off before. When I use it on a wheel that I put on, meaning it is torqued properly with anti seize on the threads, it does work. It just takes a few seconds to get moving. I still don.t like it. I want them lugs to zip off like I’m working a NASCAR pit stop. I also found that axle nuts to the wheel bearings are also a chore to remove with this gun AND the nuts on the struts to the steering knuckle. I will keep that stubby, but I want the 2767 because I can’t imagine thinking, “Darn, this works too good.” I do not tighten anything with impacts, so over torquing will never be an issue for me.
Right on. I got the 2767 first and then got the 1/2" stubby. The stubby does 95% of what I need in a lightweight package but when I need the power, it's nice to have the big boy. I've heard of the mid torque failing to remove fasteners too often. The IR 7152 does seem to have the 2767 beat from the reviews I've seen though.
The 2767 is amazing. But beware, thats a lot of power. When I first used it I snapped a wheel stud so fast I figured out quick to use the lower settings first.
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Guys i just bought my 2767-20 on northern tools for 250 plus free battery! Awesome deal and i hope it works wonders like everyone is saying.
That thing is a beast extremely powerful and I can say from personal experience it is more powerful than dewalt dcf899 high torque impact. Also to take note using Milwaukee bigger HD and HO 6-8-9-12 ah batteries gives it even more umph.
Just to clarify another difference between the pin vs friction ring that's rarely mentioned ... torques are lower on the pin type models as they are a tad weaker than their friction ring counterparts. The pin requires a small hole in the anvil to fit the tension spring & pin assembly while the friction ring anvil is one solid unit. That's why Milwaukee dialed the torques back a bit on the pin models, it was to protect against anvil breakage. Pin anvils are preferred in applications where the socket is rarely changed and desired torque values are within the design limits of the tool such as in a production line setting. There's nothing wrong with pin type anvils, just be mindful of the application before purchase.
I’m glad you clarified the difference
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These are the exact questions I needed answered.!! Thanks Man..!!! This video helped me decide/confirm the one I wanted/needed. Keep up the great work..!!! (thumbsup)
The mid 2860-20 is no miss lead.. awesome impact i rarely find something it cant get off quick. For every day cars and trucks its very well capable and not to big
You also want the one with the A in the serial number. The B (newer 2767-20) has a recall.
Thanks for the clarification. I’m trying to buy my boyfriend this for Christmas and I almost bought the wrong one. You’re video was very helpful.
They all have there place. It’s like saying you need one club to play golf. Just get the one that hits the ball the furthest. Non brushless = old tech.
Brushless = new with different models for different jobs and different budgets.
Honestly I would buy the 2863, which is the same as the 2767, but has One-key as well. One-key looks like a gimick but it actually gives you a ton of control over the tool, and with some playing around you can really dial it in for different applications. Then pick up one of the stubby impacts for tight spaces. The 1/2 has, depending on what 220 means, more breakaway torque then the 2755 @ 250ft-lbs in the 1/2 drive. These 2 will do everything you need to on a vehicle.
Your video is the one that’s misleading. First off, each one of them have their own purpose. If you’re a mechanic and only working on cars and SUV mostly, majority will prefer the 2860 and since it’s a whole lot lighter, more compact that the 2767 and can breakaway 95% of anything in the vehicle that requires it. This video is very biased not an actual review.
I agree the 2860 can be a great impact if you only work on cars and weight and fatigue is an issue. However the majority of people buying these impacts are using them as general impacts to replace their pneumatic impacts for all types of projects. With the adjustable torque setting presets that each model offers, getting the 2767 and adjusting it down to the right torque setting for their application would be best for most users. This would allow them to still have the high torque capacity if they need it and not have to bust out an air compressor.
Without a doubt, if you had to carry the high torquer around all day you'd be Popeye and your back would hate you more.
Ehh, if you’re doing timing chains or belts you’ll want the big daddy. I’ve even got weighted crank sockets to help with that. I only use my 1/2 impact gun for wheels and crank pulley bolts. Everything else i use a 3/8 impact. This video helped me cause I wanted the correct impact that is the strongest. The strongest Milwaukee impact blows away every other cordless impact I’ve ever had or used. I’ve had all gens of snap on, nicad and lithium ion. I’ve had Mac, I’ve used Matco. None come close to the 2767 as far as breaking things loose.
I dont about your opinion on the mid-torque. Light weight, really compact and strong enough for 90% of the jobs.
I absolutely agree the mid talk for most people for 90% of jobs is definitely the way to go more compact and enough for most people. Second Tool I would get would be the high impact 1/2”.
I also have Milwaukee 3/8 mid torque & it's great a lot of times I put 3/8 to 1/2 adapter when I need to but I use it constantly
That 3/8" drive is a beast!!
This is the exact video i was looking for. 👍
The 2767 will break bolts. The bolt will either come out or snap off. That is how powerful it is.
Sadly I can confirm that. Had to replace a wheel stud because I didn't realize the power when I first got it.
Good info here, the line-up is confusing buyer beware. The 2755 has 220 ft-lbs of fastening torque but is still only for lighter jobs. I have the Gen 2 High Torque you recommend (2767) with friction ring anvil it is nice, just started using it. I noticed at least on mine that when you move if from upright to 90° working position there seems to be slight motor movement about 1/8" if I were to guess, none of my other Milwaukee impact wrenches have that internal movement.
Mine too does that, the internals move/shake around on it.
You got a new subscriber! Thank you for this. I figured the deal homedepot had was too good to be true.
I appreciate you!
I use the stubby 1/2 almost everyday in a class 8 diesel shop and my high torque I've use like 1 time 🤷 granted the shop has a dedicated impact for lug nuts
I can appreciate the sentiment here. The 2663/2662 are Heavy and outdated models that either need discontinued or drastically lowered in price to continue to exist. The 2763 is still a good impact if the price reflects the older technology, I can appreciate you pointing out this model aswell. BUT.......Your complete dismissal of the 2755b & the 2860 is a bit over the top. Every one of these Models has a place and purpose. Personally I skipped the compact in favor of a 3/8 & 1/2 version of the m12 stubby because I am also in that battery platform, but the m18 compact is in my fathers tool box because he is m18 only and it’s necessary to have a small impact. I also have both the 2763 & 2767 high torques because I once had the same mindset as you..........before I actually tried a mid torque. I decided to try the mid torque because I was tired of ruining fasteners with the overkill power of the high torques. The mid torque is now my “go-to”. It does 99% of what a average person needs one to do and is literally half the size/bulk of any of the high torque models. I wouldn’t give up my high torque, as I do still need it from time to time, but now I wish I would have discovered the mid first and then I would have bought a 3/4 and skipped the 1/2 high torque. I understand, I used to have the same line of thinking you do, and both the 2763&2767 are great, but you gotta tell all the facts or you’re just misleading your viewers.
Torque extensions fix your problem for $50.
Thank you for criticizing the overly complicated and overly broad selection. Way too much overlap!
Excellent breakdown. Great help for my upcoming purchase. Thank you!
Thank you for all the information. I brought a Bauer I believe is the name and charged it up and took it right back. On the box it said it had 450 pounds of nut busting torque but yet it wouldn’t even take my Lugnuts off my Nissan Rogue I torqued to 90 foot pounds. LOL. I going to buy a Milwaukee
thank you again
I have the 2663-20. Its perfect for what I need. If I ever find my self needing more power, I will have no problem upgrading to the 2767-20
None of this is misleading. Not everybody wants or even needs 1400lbs. Specs are clearly posted, Milwaukee isn’t hiding them.
the 3/4 " is way better along with the new 1/2" drive right angle impact wrench,,,not ratchet ,,, I have both and these two take care of 99% of my needs from lawnmower to heavy equipment
Awesome! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for clarifying in a well presented video.
Thanks. This video makes choosing the right tools easy and it answer all the questions I had.
This is very informative but I think the mid torque with 450-600 ft lbs is plenty for what 99% of DIY people will need. The problem with those high torque units is that you eventually run the risk of breaking lots of bolts and its too heavy and bulky to use anywhere near the engine bay. In fact, I think the Stubby, which you didn't review, is a great complement to the mid or high torque unit.
@WHO WHO WALKWA . I was able to remove the axle nuts in my car set at 240 lbs or torque with my mid-torque. They had never been removed in the car's 12 year history. What else are you trying to remove from your car that is tighter than the maximum 650 lbs of torque with the mid-torque unit?? Lug nuts should be set at 80-90 lbs of torque. You can get the torque unit but in my opinion is too much power for a DIY person working on a regular car. But hey, get the one that makes you happy.
As far as the engine bay the issue that you're going to run into is space. I'll probably pick up the new ratcheting wrench when it goes on sale to work around the engine bay.
@@MrSupernova111 Thanks for this comment. I'm new to all this but it didn't make sense to me that the only consideration in this video seemed to be 'more power, more good'. I had heard that 450lbs was enough for most car work, including suspension work.
@@black_n5492 . Yep. More power is often more desirable but it comes at a cost. Unless you're driving a large commercial vehicle its unlikely that you'll ever need more than the mid torque. You should see a lot of deep discounts this time of the year as well. Good luck!
@@MrSupernova111 yea! I just got a a combo deal and was watching videos to see if I should be feeling buyer’s remorse 😅. I feel much better about my decision now. It’s mostly for work around the house and getting into some car projects
@@black_n5492 . Nice! I love my mid torque and Stubby. Very versatile units! No regrets! Cheers!
I have the Gen 3 M18 fuel 1/2 inch high torque. That thing is potent be careful or you will overtighten your tire lugs. As for compact impact wrenches, consider an M12 3/8 stubby which I have is great for tight spaces and it is amazing.
I just bought the (model 2863-20) 1/2" High Torque Impact brushless M18 Fuel one key, friction ring, it has fastening torque of 1,000 ft-lbs and 1,400 ft-lbs nut-busting torque. This is TOOL ONLY, no batteries or charger. The one key lets you create custom programs for the selector keys. Purchased from Home Depot.
I agree with this but on sale i got the 2663 and a 2457 ratchet with charger and battery's for 200 at home depot hard to beat, so should take care of most of my tasks.
I got the same exact kit lol cant tell me that shit ain't a deal I'm not a mechanic but I work on cars as hobby and never had a problem
Remember. Friction ring is stronger. There is no hole for the ball and spring, thus no compromise in the square drive's strength
2767-20 has an issue with torque inside the impact busting (meaning not working out of the box or on first use).
Thank you so much for this. I was selling a few 2767 and the guy wanted such a low price for it he was comparing it to the 1st gen
Yes just bought the 2767 already had 502x plus 2 batteries and also the 3/8 drive wrench too for compact cordless
I own the same impact wrench and use it to take well rusted nuts and bolts off of farm equipment. Love it. Where can I get one of those Milwaukee charts like you showing, it has a lot of good info on it. Thank you
Dont know why you tell people to stay away from the mid torque? I'm a mechanic and have the 3/8 stubby impact, high torque, and mid torque and many more impacts, but I use the mid torque most of the times. Maybe what you're trying to say is if people only have one option they should go with the high torque.
I love mine so much, I have 2!
Thanks for the tips! Saved another viewer from Milwaukee lower end products
Thanks for letting know , thought the were all the same once u step up to brushless .. 2767-20 is the model to get .! Thankyou again
I just got a 2 pack including 2x2676-20 with 2x6.0 batteries for $500 before taxes from the Home Depot. I split it with a buddy so for $250, I think we each got a smoking good deal.
Fantastic video, extremely informative, thank you so much! The 13 dislikes are from people trying to scam others into buying the lower end models
Some stores for the 1400ft lb Millie the number is 2767-(22) at least for Canadian home depot
Ahh!! Mine are away for repair I miss them so much. I like them soo much I bought 2, one for me and one for my helper.
Great Video! Can you recommend the best 1/2 in milwaukee "corded" impact wrench?
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Thank you so much for clarifying I was really confused until I saw your video. Peace from Sydney Australia
Milwaukee makes some damn fine impact wrenches. I have watched reviews until I am blue in the face and Milwaukee is always at the top if not #2 in real world comparisons. I'm more than happy for my weekend warrior of a mid-torque driver for sure. Nice video btw!!
Buena información debido a la diversidad de Llaves de Impacto que existen...y poder adquirirmejorlo último y mas nuevo!!!
La llave de Impacto 2767-20 con numero de Serie H96A es la que ofrece mejores resultados y calidad,
Ya que el modelo mismo 2767-20 con numero de Serie H96b presento problemas por el mecanismo de engranes y paso que trabajaba y hubo muchas reclamaciones por lo mismo!!
Asi que si quieres adquirir este modelo asegurate de que sea de la SERIE H96A ...
Great video. Have to remove the axel nut that is stuck and looked online and was super confused... after looking and adding/removing all of milwake impact, finally ordered from home depot the 2767 20. Wondered if i made the right choice due to all the ones i seen... then i came accross this video, thanks, no confused and happy i made the licky choice
Mid Torque 2860-20 is the best impact
I got a 2763-20 for work with a broken anvil fixed it for $48 and runs great
Sometimes I wish I had a smaller one for smaller jobs
The 2860-20 is the smallest in size for the 650 breaking. And if your working on cars and small trucks its really all you need. One of them and the right angle impact that does 220 break away. Would be all you need for automotive.
I have the 2767. Do road side assist. Have only had two lug nuts that it wouldn’t take off. What I’m interested in the the torque specs of #1, #2,and #3 button settings. Had a customer complaint saying I over torqued it and the next shop snapped a lug and couldn’t remove two. I was super careful and double checked with a bar that they where snug. Had it on #3 and stop when it makes noise.
Dope,, Thanks my friend! I didn't realize they had that many models of impacts, let alone the 1/2" selection. Kinda funny cuz I just got my first Milwaukee tool (gen3 1/4" imp/driver). I own dewalt everything BUT I always wanted Milwaukees impacts! It was worth the extra money for a new battery platform just for the one impact lol
I have Milwaukee everything....all 3 gen impact drivers and drills....but they just sit in the toolbox looking pretty.....too heavy and uncomfortable for all day use....i always reach for the makita or Hitachi drivers....
Thank you so much , I was very hesitant until I saw your video , you helped me a lot with this information good bless
I bought the 2767-21b. Not sure why its a -21b instead of -20. Maybe its the most current model? Anyone know? I figured it out, 21b is for the kit that comes with a 5 ah battery and charger with case. Same inpact as the 2767-20.
I bought the 2763-20 back in 2018, I wanted the 2767-20 that is currently heavily discounted for $299.
I used to get the pneumatic drill to get the nuts the cordless couldn't get, now I use the cordless to do what the pneumatic cant...in fact, I only use cordless now.
The mid torque is plenty good. Still light enough to do all the work. The high toque is heavy and especially if you do work all day.
Could you make a video comparing all the m18 1/4 impacts?
Gracias! Una Cubana en la Florida que busca las herramientas correctas para experimentar trabajar con su carro lol.
jajajaja cubano por aqui me alegra saber que hay mujeres que se interesan por herramientas de trabajo juguetes que solo casi solo los hombres anhelan jajaja pero no estoy de acuerdo con el tipo que pone el video porque por lo general si vas a trabajar en tu carro no te hace falta el mas grande que es muy pesado y que ademas puede sin problema ninguno aflojar las tuercas de un camion...tienes un camion?? si lo tienes comprado pero para la casi mayoría de las personas el de torque medio es mas que suficiente.
He doesnt compare weight.. which is the 2nd most important factor when choosing a portable electric tool
wow, thank GOD I found you. lust what I needed to know.
Great great great video.......glad you guys have our six. Big thx
I bought the 2662-20 and did not use it for a long time and the first time I used it to take wheel lugs nuts out on my Corolla the tool stopped working( motor runs but end socket does not turn). I called customer support and they said they will charge me as much as buying the tool new if not more considering I have to pay shipping charges as the tool is outside warranty.
Today I took the tool apparent and found 4 1/4” ball completely broken in half and this why the motor runs but not the socket end.
I think this is by design if you try yo remove nuts that is beyond torque capability.
So I don’t recommend any of these tools because they break if the nut is stuck due to rust or whatever. Also Milwaukee customer support was a waste of time and insisted that their tools don’t break under these conditions. Absolute lie and never again will I by or recommend to anyone to buy these electric torque tools especially if repair costs more than the purchase price.
Last these tools have strong spring inside which you have to compress to put the tool back inside the plastic housing and it took hours to figure out a way to put the tool together.
I do know that the 2860-20 is almost half the size of the 2767 (excluding the handle), I own both but use the 2860 90% of the time, the 2767 is the last resort, but I have it when I need it.
Nov 2021 the 2860-20 mid torque is $249 same price as 2767-20 high torque ( Orlando Florida ) wow
M12 Stubby and Mid torque M18 Fuel brushless. I rarely use the mid torque.
Thank God i buy the last one 🙏
Thanks man, just what I needed to know.
Lol. Ive had the 2663 for 10 yrs now, never let me down
Thank you so much im getting one for a Dodge front end rebuild , this is the information I needed .....
Thanks this was very informative, do you have a video on which M12/M18 stubby to get?? Because the 2767-20 would be a bit overkill for general auto mechanical work. lol
The difference is the price lol. I have the 2662 I bought like almost 2 years ago with 2 battery's, charger in the blow mold case and I only paid 330$ on Amazon which was a killer deal it was brand new to. There like almost 400$ everywhere else still. But the fuel one is prob like 500$ at least with the same style kit with the 2 batteries, charger in the blow mold case.
Definitely not confusing if you know about it. Don’t go an buy tools if you don’t know what you’re doing. It’s as easy as that.
2755-20 1/2" small impact is good for if you need to reach into tight areas and need to use an extension. Auto mechanics love the 3/8" version, and it can make sense to buy the 1/2" version considering you lose less toque when using an extension because 1/2" extensions are thicker than 3/8".
Yeah true. It all really depends on your setup and the work you do. I use the 3/8 stubby M12 for all my stuff in tight areas and it works really well. I have a set of 3/8 shallow impact sockets and I can get that impact just about anywhere.
Thank you getting the right one now !
Just bought the 2663-20 then saw your video. Should I return it im having second thoughts. I’m not a major car person just occasional diy fixes when they come up. But I saw reviews of it struggling even with lug nuts removal. Thoughts?
Well this didn’t age well…. Your top pick ended up being pulled off the shelves a couple month ago. Lucky for me I waited until the “B” version was released and Milwaukee packaged a battery and bag with it for a great price.
I've got the 2762 which is probably a mid torque model, but five years ago I was under the impression that it was the top dog. I've been underwhelmed with its power. I only use it to change snow/summer tires twice a year for three vehicles..............so 24 tires a year. I often need to loosen the lug nuts with a bar before using the Milwaukee. I don't know if that's normal, or my gun is a little weak. Either way, it's definitely not the 1400 ft/lbs I now long for.
The first on the list is a beast and lasts forever. HD has it in a kit for 399. Great buy
Update. Shortly after my last comment I realized that the slow speed setting is also a low torque setting. Once I switched to the high RPM mode I had plenty of torque. I was going to update my comment but couldn’t remember the video.