1971 Chevy Nova "Sleeper" 5.3 LS Swap Turbo!!

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  • Опубликовано: 23 фев 2024
  • I've wanted to build something like this car for a long time but I just never had the chance. I recently found out that someone I know wanted to put this up for sale. I had to immediately go check it out!
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  • @SBMusclecars
    @SBMusclecars 4 месяца назад +83

    I built this car. I asked Bobby for your number so we could keep In Touch! Happy to see all the positive comments!

    • @maximuswedgie5149
      @maximuswedgie5149 4 месяца назад +4

      Dude, I’m a hard-core Mopar guy, but I would definitely trade straight across for something like that. I love the sleeper look, great build, Bro.

    • @shannonweidner8447
      @shannonweidner8447 4 месяца назад +2

      The GRAVY TRAIN!

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад +18

      You built a hell of a car! I aim to take good care of it.

    • @ericbitzer5247
      @ericbitzer5247 3 месяца назад +4

      Beautiful car and I love the color too!

    • @dean1627
      @dean1627 3 месяца назад +1

      What headers did you use to fit that turbo in that car

  • @BumDogSuMo
    @BumDogSuMo 4 месяца назад +30

    I know that yellow traction bars are iconic but paint them flat black and it’ll really help out that sleeper look. You can always add hydroboost for the brakes. Bad ass car man!

    • @Trapper50cal
      @Trapper50cal 4 месяца назад +1

      Black traction bars installed further inboard.

    • @darrellshuman7751
      @darrellshuman7751 3 месяца назад +1

      That was my first thought.

  • @pwrshots
    @pwrshots 3 месяца назад +8

    Those leaf spring bushings are shot. Swap them out. Besides some rust on the drivers quarter panel, looks nice

    • @redlight3932
      @redlight3932 2 месяца назад +2

      with that much power it needs alot of attention in those areas you dont want to end up in a ditch all because of a bad bushing

  • @markshalloup3569
    @markshalloup3569 3 месяца назад +7

    Nice ride, I'm a Ford guy but always liked the 68-71 Nova. An in-Tank Fuel pump and some Cal-Trac Bars would be a nice addition.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад +2

      I agree! I’m looking into getting an in tank pump. Also, the go pro seems to really amplify the pump sound. It’s loud, but not as loud as it sounds in the video!

  • @EJ257IHI
    @EJ257IHI 3 месяца назад +7

    The turbo sound under boost/acceleration is just pure joy. I miss my turbo car.

  • @dillinpicklesworth5698
    @dillinpicklesworth5698 4 месяца назад +11

    Super nice and quiet too, 👍👍 the fuel pump is the loudest thing on the car🤣

  • @ChicagoRob2
    @ChicagoRob2 3 месяца назад +6

    Had a ‘70 L78. What a beast.

  • @johnmilner7603
    @johnmilner7603 4 месяца назад +13

    Congrats on the purchase. There were many 68-72 Nova SS running around during my street playing days in ‘73 to ‘77.

  • @Tbone1952
    @Tbone1952 3 месяца назад +3

    Love the Buick!

  • @72Dexter72Manley72
    @72Dexter72Manley72 3 месяца назад +8

    I had a 71 Nova 6cyl car in high school. My friends called it the under cover car. Because it was quite.
    They really need a power brake booster and front disc brakes when you V-8 swap them.
    I had a 73 Nova SS with a 4spd also. Disc brakes. I built a 355 for it with big cam and roads lifters. They would click below 2500 rpm's and bleed down. Made a big cam less aggressive at low rpm's. Then pump up at higher rpm's. I blew the 4spd up and put a 350 turbo glide in it with a shift kit and 3500 stall converter. Loved the way the engine hummed with that big converter in it. 😀 Put a B&M ratchet shifter in it.
    I bent some valves when I blew the 4spd up. A co-worker clean up the head ports a little while I was doing the auto trans swap. Traction bars were welded onto the leaf spring studs.
    Car ran a 14.10 in drive, the first time I took it to the track. Didn't have a helmet so they said if I run under 14 I'm kicked out.
    My friends said just shift it at 6500 and run it through if you get kicked out you can hang in the stand with us.
    Car ran 13.10's all day. They never kicked me out.
    Buddy let me swap some Holley carb jets he had when he would come to the track. So I got the car down to 12.90's on street tires. Loved that car.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад +1

      Nice! Sounds like an awesome car.

    • @72Dexter72Manley72
      @72Dexter72Manley72 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nowherefastgarage Thanks, yeah that was my second favorite car. Sold it to a friend before I moved to AZ.
      I found another car to build and this one is my favorite.
      74 Datsun 260Z with a Toyota engine and transmission. 👍🏾

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад

      @@72Dexter72Manley72 13 sec nova is still pretty respectable even today
      Lots of factory "12" sec cars with 14sec drivers.

    • @72Dexter72Manley72
      @72Dexter72Manley72 Месяц назад

      @@gordocarbo I will say for sure back in the late 80's. For a kid who just put something together. A lot of my friends would just say Man, that combo works so well. 👍🏾
      Just a big camshaft and high stall converter. Stock heads with a little port matching done. 👍🏾
      But man my Datsun runs low 12's easily. 2JZ with a turbo. 15 psi on the waste gate. Yes, it's a lighter car but the low 12's impresses me more. Just the turbo, no aftermarket go fast parts in the engine. And it gets 20mpg if I'm not in boost all the time. 🤣😂.

  • @williamodonnell7053
    @williamodonnell7053 3 месяца назад +3

    I had like 6 novas loved every one of them

  • @bricks8374
    @bricks8374 3 месяца назад +4

    Awesome car ! I love novas
    man I had a 72 4 door beater back in 82 I’m old as dirt ! 😅

  • @talesofanasphaltjockey
    @talesofanasphaltjockey 4 месяца назад +9

    Awesome car , the sleeper look with the caps is the perfect look... good luck with it !

  • @lawncuttingplusdelta
    @lawncuttingplusdelta 3 месяца назад +4

    I’m not gonna lie … I got a few beers 🍺 in me , but I am super impressed with your documentation and narration , of this video !!! A true humble car guy no doubt !! ❤…. I love novas ! I had 2 in highschool … and currently making a comeback with my 74 Pauldo nova 👍🏻

  • @ninoreeves7702
    @ninoreeves7702 4 месяца назад +4

    i had a 71 in high school, wish i still had it!!!! that LS fits nicely!!!!

  • @stanmendoza7871
    @stanmendoza7871 4 месяца назад +5

    Congrats, welcome to the Nova Brotherhood! I have owned 6 in the past 45 years very easy car to work on, presently I drive a 1969 IMO the best looking year

  • @aaronsg71
    @aaronsg71 3 месяца назад +3

    That’s a pretty sick gramma car!!!

  • @Ackharrystowing
    @Ackharrystowing Месяц назад +1

    I had a 1972 nova I put a 454 in back in the 90s it went pretty good

  • @billwallenstein3387
    @billwallenstein3387 3 месяца назад +1

    Those doors close a lot better than I remember. Nice

  • @clifffoltz651
    @clifffoltz651 4 месяца назад +1

    Happy Motoring, very nice Nova!

  • @headstockharem4
    @headstockharem4 3 месяца назад +3

    I dub thee "Root Beer Surprise"

    • @SBMusclecars
      @SBMusclecars 3 месяца назад +2

      I always called it “the gravy train” when I built it lol

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад

      @@SBMusclecars Fitting name!
      Dubbed my y67 El Plain Vanilla. All stock looking like this, white/red just has a ton of power. Interior bone stock no gauges tach etc. Just a Hurst super boot over the 6 speed old 4 speed ball on top.

  • @bobbyski9328
    @bobbyski9328 4 месяца назад +4

    Love this car Anthony! Def happy I sold to you!!! Enjoy buddy

  • @ApostleDavids8w
    @ApostleDavids8w 3 месяца назад +1

    Very nice right thanks for the video. I love watching this I got a good feeling you figure everything out

  • @JohnnyButtons
    @JohnnyButtons 3 месяца назад +3

    We share a common taste for cars lol.

  • @erichuff2538
    @erichuff2538 3 месяца назад +2

    That's an awesome ride brother 😎

  • @markwegner6100
    @markwegner6100 4 месяца назад +2

    Great score! Enjoy!!

  • @markbork5634
    @markbork5634 4 месяца назад +3

    Nice sleeper. Had a 72 rally sport 4spd. Miss that car.

  • @paulciprus9582
    @paulciprus9582 4 месяца назад +2

    I had 2..a 68 250 six..3 speed on column..and a 70 SS 383 stroker with aluminum heads 1.7 ratio rockers 560 in. Lift.. 4:10 gears and 3500 stall…Southside Machine lift bars…80/20 drag shocks in front…man ..that car would plant the tires hard and just go…what fun..now I have a 03 SVT Cobra making 640 rwhp…my Nova was a sleeper too until you started it…🤣🤣.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад

      Have original SSM bars on my 67 El what a difference those made!!
      Also put them on an 85 5.0 Mustang. Completely restored, made it quiet...but had a 460 on spray under the hood
      That one fooled a LOT of people...Ca smog laws had me selling it at Pomona Swap Meet.

  • @LeftCoastModelCarBuilds
    @LeftCoastModelCarBuilds 4 месяца назад +3

    Very cool, love these old Novas!

  • @jjcrazylegs7081
    @jjcrazylegs7081 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice Nove, love it!

  • @vincekartes7145
    @vincekartes7145 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome car and love the color combo! I have a primer black 69 4sp with a fresh 383. It’s pretty much my daily. I’d love to do a turbo LS swap but decided to keep it simple with a carb and mechanical fuel pump. Nice GS you have too!✌️

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Thanks! Yours sounds awesome!

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад

      Daily, love it!! Fastest car in HS (80s) was a black 70? Nova. Cant remember if it had weld draglites or centerlines but had a 12.5-1 350, big solid flat tappet old AFR 190s 4500 stall, 4.56. Car was frigging wicked!! It hooked and went
      Bet it was a low 12 high 11 sec car, was his daily. Our parking lot at school looked like todays cruise night. I sure miss those days we had no many musclecars on our cul de sac .Even had 2 engineers, 1 had a superbird the other had a W30 and 442 Cutlass...68 pretty sure

  • @flatlanderoutdoors2549
    @flatlanderoutdoors2549 4 месяца назад +4

    What a bada$$ nova congrats!

  • @ashley-tm1uk
    @ashley-tm1uk 3 месяца назад +1

    my dad bought a bone stock ‘71 nova with 6 cyl automatic, had an am radio…light metallic green with tan vinyl interior…don’t think it had side molding…what i remember most is that it was loud inside …it obviously had very little sound deadening insulation in the cab if any…we had that car in the family for about 8 years, with 3 kids driving it too…we joked about the ugly color and loud ride, but it never let us down even once…

  • @lparsons6977
    @lparsons6977 4 месяца назад +3

    Now thats a sleeper !!!

  • @Feledwards
    @Feledwards 4 месяца назад +1

    I had a 71, 6 cylinder, originally pea green. Bench seats. Bought it from my brother in law. It had way more rust than I cared for. I had a 6.0 LS that I was gonna turbo and put in it. Wish it had less rust. Still sold it for $4K.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад

      All the metal is available but depends how much labor you want to put into it.

  • @bronco1199
    @bronco1199 2 месяца назад +1

    All go no show love that

  • @Anthony-ue4zm
    @Anthony-ue4zm 4 месяца назад +2

    wow nice LS Nova

  • @jjfink3925
    @jjfink3925 3 месяца назад +1

    Such a cool car!

  • @turbosammy6085
    @turbosammy6085 4 месяца назад +2

    BAD ASS!!!! I always
    Loved the 70/71 Novas I really want to get one but the only problem is I have no room with my 87 Buick Grand National and my 79 Chevy Malibu😎👍

    • @mdogg1604
      @mdogg1604 3 месяца назад

      Same problem here. I'm using garages from friends who went south for winter; looks like I'll have a storage problem in a month or so!

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      I hear ya. I’m totally out of storage space here.

  • @peteavila-mb4jd
    @peteavila-mb4jd 3 месяца назад +1

    Bad ass ride bro

  • @PHILLY214
    @PHILLY214 4 месяца назад +2

    Beautiful car!! I can see what looks to be a lil rust in sum spots under the paint (the bubbles and waves)

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah obviously it’s not perfect. I can fix that myself. I haven’t decided if I will or not.

  • @zeeelander
    @zeeelander 4 месяца назад +4

    That sounded like a lot more than 9 pounds of boost brother 😂

  • @jamesp1586
    @jamesp1586 4 месяца назад +2

    Very nice Nova a dream car of mine. Ima keep dreaming 😜

  • @killabee623
    @killabee623 3 месяца назад +1

    Chevy should never discontinue these LS engines.

  • @Richard-Anson
    @Richard-Anson 4 месяца назад +1

    Man that is sweet!

  • @davidmartin8825
    @davidmartin8825 3 месяца назад +1

    Great job enjoy it

  • @cguitarallday
    @cguitarallday 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice car I wouldn’t change nothing. Wish I had it

  • @nickm8392
    @nickm8392 4 месяца назад +1

    It’s beautiful

  • @mxrider1331
    @mxrider1331 3 месяца назад +1

    Gorgeous!!!!

  • @koolharp
    @koolharp 3 месяца назад

    Awesome Nova "SL"

  • @user-rg5sy5pr1d
    @user-rg5sy5pr1d 3 месяца назад +1

    Cool car

  • @earth2steven197
    @earth2steven197 4 месяца назад +2

    I love your sleeper Nova! Check out " sweatpea" Nova or Nivlac57's Nova. I love these type of builds. How would you like to get beat by a column shifted bench seat car😂

  • @Rcman1223
    @Rcman1223 3 месяца назад +2

    Beautiful car

  • @bobsilver3983
    @bobsilver3983 3 месяца назад +2

    Great car!

  • @Enjoytheinbetween
    @Enjoytheinbetween 4 месяца назад +2

    Memories of yellow Lakewood (If I remember correctly) traction bars, had them on my car!

  • @mikeh.753
    @mikeh.753 4 месяца назад +1

    That Nova is in really good shape. I would keep it until you can double your money back.

  • @MrLowrider527
    @MrLowrider527 3 месяца назад +1

    Very nice nova

  • @jwalk937
    @jwalk937 2 месяца назад +1

    I plan on doing my daily 88 caprice classic in similar fashion but only when my investment properties produce 15k a month im close at 10k, closing on a duplex next month.

  • @edwardbaker1331
    @edwardbaker1331 3 месяца назад +2

    That's as big a turbo as I saw on a Porsche 962 Le Mans winning racecar.

  • @mariocooldude9092
    @mariocooldude9092 3 месяца назад +1

    Hahaha my old man owned the same car ...had a slant 6 in it 😂 had plenty of Novas and Chevelles over the years but loved that brown one

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Maybe it was a straight 6? Slant was Plymouth.

    • @glenryan6569
      @glenryan6569 3 месяца назад

      A rare engine swap I'm guessing not many people went through the trouble of fitting a slant 6 into a Nova .

  • @mondeacid5610
    @mondeacid5610 3 месяца назад +1

    Fastest visor I have been on. Better placement of the camera would have made a better ride but nice built for sure

  • @user-fc6hs7ji3p
    @user-fc6hs7ji3p 3 месяца назад +1

    EVERYTHING IS A DAMN SLEEPER

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Месяц назад

      Lots say their is..this is truly one. Looks pretty stock, old color stock wheels, quiet.

  • @mikechevelle3418
    @mikechevelle3418 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice car

  • @1969Donovan
    @1969Donovan 4 месяца назад +1

    I love it.

  • @ApostleDavids8w
    @ApostleDavids8w 3 месяца назад +2

    You should put a quieter fuel pump put in tank pump
    Wallbro 450

  • @THROTTLEPOWER
    @THROTTLEPOWER 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice!!!!! 🤜🤛

  • @rooster68able
    @rooster68able 3 месяца назад +1

    Cool car , good old LI ny !

  • @joe-hp4nk
    @joe-hp4nk Месяц назад +1

    The slapper bars have to go if you want the sleeper look.

  • @jackperry9369
    @jackperry9369 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow nice freaking car sleeper 👌 😍 👏 😳

  • @johnwoytalewicz6329
    @johnwoytalewicz6329 3 месяца назад

    That root beer color is awesome not to Mention the turbo charged 5.3 motor.
    The only thing I wish I had is Is floor Shifter.. Those cars were super light...... and FAST!!!!

  • @chrisallen766
    @chrisallen766 4 месяца назад +1

    I like the color.

  • @user-be7lh9kq1g
    @user-be7lh9kq1g 9 дней назад +1

    Had two 72s 250custraight 6s power glides 350 one of them.also had a 75 more doors 😢I let the go.

  • @lucassnell4668
    @lucassnell4668 4 месяца назад

    man the whining fuel pump really kills it for me. my f100 was the same way before I ripped out the holley EFI and went back to carb. too many issues with EFI. awesome nova!!!!

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Thanks. It sounds louder on camera than in person.

  • @davidthomits544
    @davidthomits544 4 месяца назад +1

    Dog dish hub cap’s nothing looks better than a set of those on a classic car

  • @travis50907
    @travis50907 4 месяца назад +1

    Love sleepers so fucken cool bud 👍👍

  • @neverendingmods
    @neverendingmods 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice '71. Just some lower body patches and you're good to go.
    Turbo cars love tall gearing. 3.08 is max I'd run. Even a 2.85 if you get serious about drag racing it.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Yes! I don’t know serious I can get because I definitely don’t want to put a cage in it.

  • @guruoo
    @guruoo Месяц назад +1

    Root Beer!

  • @zeeelander
    @zeeelander 4 месяца назад

    It is a beautiful Nova though. 🔥 🇺🇲

  • @HH-pn4ji
    @HH-pn4ji 3 месяца назад +1

    Sell it to me😮 Beautiful Nova 🤩

  • @danhedrick1795
    @danhedrick1795 3 месяца назад +1

    Sweet

  • @kerbygator
    @kerbygator 26 дней назад +1

    Imagine adding a nitrous setup to it now?

  • @michpatriot9097
    @michpatriot9097 3 месяца назад

    Get a set of Cal Tracs! Those slapper bars dont do a thing except stop spring wrap..once the rubber smugness touch the spring that's it..two tire fire! Cal Tracs work wonders!!!!

  • @gearhead7896
    @gearhead7896 3 месяца назад +2

    Man, I love blue dots. I have a 15/16" hole saw just for them still.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Me too. First time I had a car with them.

    • @gearhead7896
      @gearhead7896 3 месяца назад

      @@nowherefastgarage oh and love the car, too!

  • @BulletSpoung
    @BulletSpoung 3 месяца назад +1

    A sleeper, my kind of car. If it were me, the slap bars would be gone and I would find a way to hide the computer screen, making it even sleeper.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      That is Velcro’d on. Easy to move and hide if I wanted. But it’s basically my gauge cluster to monitor temp, oil pressure, etc.

  • @jeffg4008
    @jeffg4008 3 месяца назад +1

    It hurts me a little to see no air filter on a street car. Very cool stable of vehicles you have there.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Yeah, I don’t think it would fit there? I’ll look into it.

  • @diningroomfish5470
    @diningroomfish5470 3 месяца назад +2

    That's a sleeper, pull up next to someone and they would never know

  • @khollister41
    @khollister41 4 месяца назад +1

    love this car. would you care to share the wheel tire combo? I would love to know the tire/wheel/ and backspacing on the rear. looks great

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! The seller told me he thinks it’s 15x8 with 5 or 5.5 backspace. This car also has the springs relocated inboard for more tire clearance. Tires are 275/50/15. Next time I have a wheel off I will try to confirm those measurements.

    • @khollister41
      @khollister41 3 месяца назад

      @@nowherefastgaragethank you sir, looks great

  • @markkimball1569
    @markkimball1569 4 месяца назад

    Wow what a bad 💥🔥 car. I had a 72 Ventura. Also wanted to buy a 72 nova w A 307. But the old guy sold it by the time I got back w the 💰. The kid wrecked it. Lost chance 4 me. Nice memories.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад +1

      My mom had a 72 Ventura when I was a kid. Had the 307. Pretty cool car!

  • @toddwimberly3023
    @toddwimberly3023 4 месяца назад +3

    Bushings are new? Did you see the leaf spring bushing?

    • @adamweston4152
      @adamweston4152 4 месяца назад

      I've just left a comment saying the same thing, they are perished.

  • @-chopper-jq3kz
    @-chopper-jq3kz 3 месяца назад +1

    😍😍👍 from holland

  • @billharden7127
    @billharden7127 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice👍.

  • @bobbymccourt6794
    @bobbymccourt6794 4 месяца назад

    Gorgeous! I had a genuine 72 SS. SUNKEN Meadow park. Do you go to the Key Food show on Thursdays? Would love to see the car in person.

  • @WhiteManXRP
    @WhiteManXRP 4 месяца назад

    Just buy it...badass

  • @AbstractDreamz
    @AbstractDreamz 4 месяца назад +1

    Isn't the fuel and oil pressure a bit too low. I think that at 16:19 your fuel pressure should be about 60 PSI and the oil near 40 psi. Your idle seems fine.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад

      That was at hot idle. Seems ok to me? Fuel psi is set to 43.5 at idle.

    • @AbstractDreamz
      @AbstractDreamz 4 месяца назад +1

      @@nowherefastgarage Cool but just FYI, I checked my logs and my fuel pressure stays steady at 57.9 PSI at idle or driving. I still think that yours is a little low. Just look into it. 🤙

  • @cliffwright9842
    @cliffwright9842 3 месяца назад +1

    Like that Buick steering wheel, building a Regal and need to change the stock one. Any idea where I can get that same wheel??

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад +1

      I found it on eBay. It’s actually the same wheel as a Chevy; and I bought the horn button and column adapter from The Parts Place.

  • @adamweston4152
    @adamweston4152 4 месяца назад

    All the bushings are not new, the leaf spring bushes are perished and need replacing, apart from that this is a nice car.

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад

      I agree. I think he meant the front end. All of that and the subframe bushings are new.

  • @natejones963
    @natejones963 3 месяца назад

    13.9-14.1 is perfect idle AFR

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  3 месяца назад

      Is idling at 14.7 a problem? My GN idles good around 15.0.

  • @commonsense1557
    @commonsense1557 4 месяца назад +2

    Very nice. Love to have one setup like yours. What did it end up costing you?

  • @matthempel198
    @matthempel198 4 месяца назад

    Always loved those novas, I dig the non assuming look with the spicy engine under the hood !! That being said , that nova doesn’t hold a candle to that Buick in my opinion. All your cars are pretty choice!! Did you let the 442 go ? I don’t remember seeing anything about you selling it

    • @nowherefastgarage
      @nowherefastgarage  4 месяца назад +1

      I sold the 442 last summer. Believe me, I wish I could keep them all but I don’t have the space.

  • @RaymondJLopez-fv2bf
    @RaymondJLopez-fv2bf 4 месяца назад

    Add sub frame connectors. They will really stable the silent beast out. Badd ass