I have 2 kids, we're past the stroller era now but the ones we used to have were all bought second hand. No point in wasting so much money on things you will be using for just a brief period of time. After we were done with them, we sold them so next kids can make use of them. THIS is the real recycling and caring about the planet (plus your wallet will thank you :)
The second hand stroller for my first baby just arrived and is in such an amazing condition. Why would I ever spend so much money on something used for such a short time?
My older 3 in 2004, 2006 and 2008, we were happy with an Eddie Bauer second hand. There were much fancier ones but they didn't seem relevant to us. We did buy a cheap umbrella stroller later. It worked. When the older child was big enough to walk, the younger one went into the stroller. This was in Toronto, big winters but a stroller mostly used in cleared parking lots was fine. Then 2022 we had twins in northern Canada and I have a previous back injury. Parking lots full of snow and ice for 6 months of the year, we needed something with bigger wheels and especially in the first 6 months, I wanted both facing me, in arms reach for the many appointments coming and daily walks. We splurged on a $2000 bugaboo donkey. It's not a place where other parents buy expensive strollers, they tend to hibernate for the winter. We wear snowsuits and get out every day because I'm prone to seasonal depression, I can't just hibernate. When the snow is really, really bad, I strap some skis on the bottom of the wheels. Doesn't look pretty but gets us out the door. I hadn't thought I would spend that sort of money on a stroller before our twins. But for the versatility and my mental health, it was money well spent. Which is funny when you compare the ikea highchairs, used clothes, and Graco car seats, and ten years old minivan. We're not typically spending people, but there are times we've realized it's not worth the hassle of being cheap, just pay for whatever conveniences can make a tough slog a little easier.
I didn't know strollers can get into the thousands until a niece was gifted one during her baby shower. I think it was about ~$6000. I was shock. Most expensive one I got was about $150 and it was a hard purchase. LOL
I'm finding it hard to believe it was 6k, even the Gucci stroller is 5k. The most expensive real stroller I can find is the cybex Epriam which even in gold plated form is only 2k, the only way you get higher is buying an absurd number of seats
I'm not a parent, but the first time one of my close friends had a baby, I was shocked to learn that some of these strollers can cost _multiple_ thousands of dollars. 🤯
We spent about $400 for a stroller/car seat/baby carrier combo that could grow with our baby, and I considered that expensive. Worse yet is that we haven't used it a single time as a stroller; it's a lot easier and more convenient to just carry our baby around in a wrap. The biggest thing I've learned since having a child is that parents are being convinced left and right to buy things that are either overpriced or completely unnecessary; the only things we've bought that aren't secondhand were a bassinet, that car seat/stroller combo, and cloth diapers, and we're keeping it that way.
I bought my stroller 2nd hand for about 75USD and it has been a great investment. But TBH nowadays, since moving to a third floor apartment, I'm getting the most use out of a cheap 15USD umbrella stroller. Its lightweight and foldable, easy to haul up/down stairs, onto buses, subways, etc. Those big fancy strollers seem great for when you're actively strolling, but the rest of the time they seem big, clunky, and impractical.
Future Proof definitely needs more videos on the the whole parenting life style thing. When we were shopping for stuff for our son It was crazy how expensive this stuff is. Designer shoes/clothing, $3000 strollers, social media influencers, etc When you start following the money you can see where things are going lol. Thanks Daddy Levi for a great vid!
I think the whole "posturing" thing would be very interesting to look at. Was chatting to my 70 year old dad yesterday about it. I said it was a shame so many well employed, dual income families are living week to week. To which he replied. In my day, no-one aspired to having anything but a roof over their head. Life wasn't a fashion show. People had work-life balance. Now all my family have mortgages they will die with, cars that are way more complex and flashy than needed, new iPhones, handbags, sunnies, clothing of course...the list just goes on. Many countries have gone this way. Here in Australia people are leveraged to the hilt. Even my teenage niece feels like she "needs" a big truck. People seem to feel very inadequate. I note...this has gotten worse since we were all locked inside for two years.
@@jeffmcdonald101 Social media has had a HUGE influence as well. I have heard comments about fashion where a woman is questioning why she likes something-is it because she actually likes it or is it because she likes it in other peoples outfits or she sees it all over Instagram and TikTok
@@jeffmcdonald101 the situation is so strange now. It seems like the millennial/gen Z generation can access all these luxuries that I couldn't imagine my parents indulging in growing up, like international vacationing, eating out, trendy items and yet housing and food prices are out of control. I don't need a destination wedding or the newest car or to go travelling or a room full of toys or an extra af birthday party, but both me and my partner will have to work full time and invest if we want even a single separate bedroom from our hypothetical 1-3 children and still have any hope of retiring. I think a lot of parents nowadays are trying to cope with uncertainty in their future with these luxury purchases that they undoubtedly can't afford.
Currently 37 weeks pregnant with my first child and would be SO down for more parent-related content 😄 My partner and I moved from the SF Bay Area to Amsterdam a couple years ago for many reasons, and one of the cultural differences I am so grateful for is the lack of "keeping up with the Joneses" or trying to one-up each other. We feel zero pressure to make decisions based on expressing social classism or avoiding judgment from others here. 80% of the baby supplies we have gathered are either gifted, purchased secondhand, or being rented from an amazing Dutch company called Tiny Library, including our bassinet, reusable diapers, and baby carrier. (Pretty much everyone I've told about Tiny Library gives me the 🤯 reaction.) On that note, we plan to exclusively use a baby carrier and no stroller at all. A few reasons for this: (1) we live car-free, so just cycling, using public transport, or walking, (2) we live on the 2nd/3rd floors of a typical Dutch house (tiny steep staircase with zero space in the front entrance to store anything but a few shoes and coats) and there is NO way we're carrying a stroller up and down those stairs daily, (3) we personally disliked how much space strollers take up in public even before we got pregnant, and we also see how much other parents struggle with managing their strollers on the trains, trams, etc.). Basically we will be carrying our baby for as long as possible, and when she is able to walk, that is what we will have her do. (Again, this is such a non-traditional way of doing things, most people give us the 🤯reaction.) Granted, since this is our first child, we are perfectly aware that this plan of ours may not work out, and we fully acknowledge that we may develop reasons to get a stroller anyway. If that happens, we intend to rent it from Tiny Library, purely based on the features that fit our needs, without any consideration for what other parents might think, because here in the Netherlands, we "doe normaal" by being direct and practical and minding our own business.
Yes i love babywearing too! We don't have a car, and i hate waiting for lifts, so baby wearing is perfect and the pram is only reserved for park visits etc!
Babywearing can be a great choice depending on parents needs. For me in the newborn phase it was so much easier to just put on a stretchy carrier as part of getting dressed in the morning then baby is happy and you can get stuff done with 2 hands. On the other hand my sister couldn't cope with the feeling of being touched all the time and found stopping and starting tasks to tend to a fussy baby less annoying than holding them all the time.
Living car-free only works if you live in the big city, work there and remain there. So yeah it works for Amsterdam, Utrecht, The Hague and Rotterdam. But I live in a village near Arnhem (in the east of the country) and a car is quite necessary, doing the weekly groceries by bike is almost a day job involving multiple trips to different supermarkets, farmers and greenhouses. I cannot fathom living without a car, but life on the countryside is different, even in a highly urbanized country as the Netherlands.
I chose the first stroller on parenting magazine reviews and then found the cheapest one. It was a heavy beast. I had an older mom explain how an umbrella stroller would change my world. As soon as kiddo could sit up by themselves, I got one. OMG it was game changer. Lighter, easier to open and close, took up less space and so much cheaper. Bugaboos weren't big until my kids were in school but they look cool!
As a newish dad (about 1.5 years on the job) the desire to splash out on your kid is so high. It feels like you're letting your baby down when you can't provide them with the best. Even though they are just as likely to eat dirt or cotton balls as they are to eat their dinner or a cookie.
Levi: “Strollers finally became something sort of somewhat affordable for the middle class…” Me: “Oh awesome! Maybe I should…” Levi: “For $630” Me: “Which middle class are we talking about again?”
Middle class also includes things like doctors and lawyers. It's people who have money to spend, but still need to work for a living. Upper class people are the people who make money through owning stuff, like stocks and factories. If you don't have money to splurge on an occasional luxury, you probably aren't middle class. There is a reason why people are saying the middle class is shrinking, more and more people are not in the middle class anymore.
Jogging strollers were super clutch for us when our daughter was young...I trained her up to enjoying a neighborhood 10k...as a side benefit the training became harder as she grew :)
Daddy Levi, rocking a waste free, Subaru “share the love” drive, vegan leather, organic, all natural, hydro flask, Nalgene stroller… national parks edition. 😂❤
We bought a nuna stroller and car seat. It was about $1500. The nice quality and cushy feel were a big part. There's nothing wrong with wanting something that feels well made. We could afford it easily. But the other part is, they do have functionality. The car seat was the lightest one on the market. Carrying the baby upstairs is a lot easier when the carseat doesn't weigh 20lbs on its own. The wheels on the stroller are bigger and handle uneven sidewalk with less jostling. It folds up easier. The car seat slots into the base in the car much easier and smoother than the graco stroller we got for our baby shower. It's not just a waste of money. It's small conveniences that are worth the price, if the stroller doesn't represent a week of your paycheck.
1 kid, 0 stroller. Have been carrying around this guy in a "pouch" for the entire time and I loved it as a dad. The babywearing industry might be even weirder though, and flexing your merch is totally present.
@@LeviHildebrandYT I feel like it's extremely relevant to the usual content you make - It's just a specific sub category of consumerism is all. And a very big one at that. I plan on having a kid one day, personally. And it'd be nice to have a tidy little Futureproof "Parenting" playlist to reference at the time, when I suddenly have to make all these stressful purchasing decisions myself.
I think the consumerism aspect of weddings and babies is interesting. I am not married nor do I have children yet, but I know for a fact I want to get married in nature, low budget, and my kids will have mostly secondhand clothes. They grow so fast and get so dirty, what is the point?
@@sarahkinsey5434 This is very true. I’m not married and don’t have any children either but I’m looking forward to seeing what kinds of clothes they’ll have based on what’s cool at the time. 😊
my sister raised two kids without ever buying, borrowing or using a stroller 😅 just she and her partner juggling the baby/toddler in those ergobaby straps until the toddler was big enough to do their own walking for longer than 15 minutes. said they "couldn't be f*cked with those baby carriage tanks and all the hassle". I still can't wrap my mind around the perseverance and arm strength 😅 but I do think fondly of her approach every time I'm jostled around the metro by people with baby carriage tanks.
I never thought of it as an accessory. It's not my stroller it's my baby's as long as it does what it needs to then I could care less about what it looks like.
You didn’t mention anything about used baby gear. I hardly bought anything new for my babies (except diapers and baby food). You’ve got to buy used baby things or accept hand-me-downs from friends and relatives. Your kids outgrow these things so quickly.
This is hilarious to me. A stroller is just a short term tool to make your life a little easier & if people are judging others based on their choices I think theyre simply trying to justify their own waste of money to themselves. If you want to overspend on something do it on something like a car seat for safety or start a college fund. But I've always been a practical person who avoids trends, as you may have noticed if youve read my comments. The highlight of this video though was Levi doing the detergent ad & using a tactic he highlighted in a previous video concerning detergent pods. In that video he pointed out manufacturers had to create a need for them by talking about having to lug heavy bottles around, something no one had considered an issue; yet today here was Levi talking about the same thing. It made me giggle. :)
@@Code7Unltd how long have you been watching these two? Do you really believe they aren't going to want their child to go to college? I happen to agree with you but everyone is different.
@@flaval24 I'm saying a blue-collar trade is better, and colleges can't teach trades. Especially as most of the white-collar jobs that colleges teach for are being firebombed by chatbots.
It's also a reflection of how INSECURE these "parents" are. Like? Do they want to pass on the judgemental attitude with their child? Because that's what's gonna happen further down the line with all this judgemental nonsense.
@@HeatherLandon227 wow. I'm pretty sure you don't recognize the irony in your comment so all I'll say is that opinions are like rights- everyone has them but one person's ends where the other's begins. It's not for me or anyone else to tell someone what to do with their child unless they ask. Besides, Frankie isn't even a year old yet, who knows what colleges will be like by the time he goes?
We got rid of 1 car, moved closer to a bus stop and grocery store. And currently we use one of the Chariots from Thule, also above the one thousand dollars mark but it is versatile and also goes over snow, tow it with the bike and tow it when cross country skiing. totally worth it if you are not car dependent. You save thousands a year with 1 less car.
@@Myownchanelhere there's a lot of reasons why someone would not have a kid. I can handle my nieces for a few hours at a time, but being able to handle the full-time is beyond what I'm capable of...or really even them, because my cousin (who is happily married) has a lot of help with watching them. Takes a village.
YES, daddy Levi! Parenting is one of the most missing aspects of any genre of videos, including my areas of urbanism, neighborhood development and transportation. We need the voices of those who are parents to pull back the curtain, share their experiences, tribulations and successes, as models, inspiration and support for those considering to take on or have taken on the responsibility. Even if you have pull back the amount of footage later for their own privacy, please be the leaders in this desperately needed topic with your honesty and humility!
My wife and I have the Uppababy Vista but end up using a $60 dollar travel stroller we were gifted the majority of the time. It's light and compact, which are benefits that outweigh any of the features offered on the tank strollers.
I tried to get my son to use alternative/compact strollers, but he refuses. Lol. He prefers the uppababy only. It is more comfortable though, I gotta admit.
The uppababy is very useful from birth if you're using a stroller a lot and not just to hold the baby between car rides. While it is massive taking it on the subway with the insane storage space and upgraded comfort meant that I could go anywhere easily without a car. Same for groceries. I would just walk to the store, load up a whole grocery load in the bottom, and then walk home. Can't really do that with an infant in a travel stroller. Later as my kid got bigger I got the itsy travel stroller and that thing holds nothing but is probably the absolutely most compact and light stroller to exist so far. Very useful with a kid that is in and out a lot and for museums and such.
I bet there’s a market for well crafted, minimalist strollers! A common theme is that the big ones just don’t port well-kind of like they’re for suburban moms who venture out in the subdivision but rarely take it for an errand.
I’m of an age where the no-frills “travel” strollers were $25 & the super fancy ones were almost $200. I heard from so many people that the travel stroller will be the one used over and over & that the fancy one will be treated like a special outfit: only brought out a few times a year to impress others. It’s very strange to see how drastically things have changed in this area. I get that the currently high-end items are lightweight and collapsible like the travel strollers of my day, but I’d never drop that much on a stroller. I’d be too afraid to use it in case it got stolen or puked/pooped on.
I swear by the Uppababy Vista, I knew we were having more kids and the investment from the beginning was going to pay off and boy was I RIGHT !! We are now 3 under 4 years old and they all fit in one stroller!! We've travelled all over the place, the stroller survived the airplanes, the beaches, the sand, the forests. All the technicalities come in handy when needed - one stroller for everything, all the kids instead of a different one for different occasions, or child. We've relocated to France and no one sells or knows the Uppababy Vista here and I still SWEAR by mine - so it's not about keeping up with the Joneses, it is legit an amazing product depending on your lifestyle. The bassinet is even an approved bed and we used it as a bedside bassinet for our second after relocating - literally all the pieces ended up coming in handy (we didn't actually use it for our first). All this to say, my friend who also had 3 kids (not planned - so she couldn't have known) ended up having to change strollers after each kid; buying a total of 3 strollers... if you know what type of lifestyle you want to live with your child, if your having multiples, etc, I would encourage to just invest from the get-go.
When my kids were little we were big fans of the cheap, crappy umbrella strollers. They were light, nimble, small, easy to fold, didn't take any room in the car, and basically disposable. We had a fancy expensive one (for the time) but it was a pain to take places because it was big and heavy and slow and not maneuverable and took up half the trunk. So 99% of the time we opted for the tiny crappy one.
“My kid’s really good but I am tired a lot of the time” should be my personal catchphrase…. 6mo momma here and this video in particular hits so close to home as we think about getting a jogging stroller since our current Graco has NO need for speed 😂
Not gonna lie, we are a two stroller family. But rather than spending close to a thousand dollars for one of those luxury ones, we got the two cheaper ones which serve different functions. First we got a small, lightweight, and compact stroller that was still newborn compatible and keep that in the back of the car. The point was to be able to move our kid around from day one, while still fitting in even a small sedan, and not breaking my back every time I have to drag it in and out of the trunk. We can even cram it into the small exam room at the pediatrician's office. But it wasn't great for our nanny who takes our kiddo to the neighborhood park every day. It had little storage and small wheels that don't handle grass / woodchips / rubber play areas very well. So for her we focused on a model that had tons of storage and kept it set up in the garage with all the baby supplies and toys she would need every day. The combined cost of the two (plus accessories) is still less than a single luxury stroller and it's so much more functional. The other neighborhood nannies are actually a little jealous of how much storage is in our cheap 'park stroller'.
definitely interested in more videos on family stuff! The benefit with Strollers is that the resale value of them is actually very good! Unlike buying second hand carseats (which can be more risky), there isn't a safety risk.
I swear as a european who got raised in a city with trams trains and busses there where strollers like these in the 90s already. because here regardless of gender you need a sturdy stroller to go in public transport also i was the third kid using my stroller and after i grew out of it it still was well off enough so my mother gave it to another friend of hers who was expecting. i cant imagine spending so much money on a stroller second hand for the win
We have a Nuna Demi Grow (for a potential second baby) and we had to think long and hard before buying it since it is also close to the $1K mark and we did not want to spend a ton of money on a stroller initially. But, the reason for choosing Nuna was because of it being free of PFAs and flame retardants since almost all of the strollers/car seats have PFAs and flame retardants which require the manufacturers using highly toxic chemicals. Babies are more vulnerable when it comes to toxic substances so we finally pulled the plug. The all terrain feature came as a bonus and we started taking hikes with it every day including the Swiss mountain tops during our travels! But then it made us go down this rabbit hole of PFAs and flame retardants in general since SO MANY of the baby products have them and it pushed us to have a lifestyle change. Yasssss to the parenting content by the way.
I have no kids of my own but was completly floored when my sis telled me about it. I had really no idea. Truly insane prices for what they charge for regular strollers "only" in the 500-range, at that point I expect them to come with in-built air-condition, extremely smooth suspension & an advanced media-suite. No wonder these things gets handed down from generations...
My 2 cents as a someone with a kid that's grown up and out of the stroller stage (he's double digits now lol). Get a stroller that comes with a car seat base for a baby. Nothing worse than having to wake up a sleeping baby to put them into or take them out of the car. A seat that can go from car to stroller base without unbuckling your baby is a truly wonderful thing. As someone that cloth diapered our kid, I gotta say we had a bad time with the microfiber inserts. They start great at first, but they lose absorbancy over time and eventually they pick up a stink that no amount of washing or stripping will get rid of. We eventually switched to cotton prefolds, you can use them just like the microfiber inserts, but they're much easier to clean (because cotton). They also have a multitude of uses after your kid(s) no longer requires diapers.
So my parents apparently paid what is now equivalent to 460€ for mine at the end of the 90s. About what I expected and despite its functions not that luxurious.
Yes more parenting stuff! Given the cloth diapers in your video, I'd be super interested to hear about why they are becoming popular again. Are they really eco-friendly, save money, etc?
Oh Levi, you're so cute! Your dad wasn't the only one who used a wagon. I haven't gotten to the end yet, but collapsible wagon are freaking expensive too.
Here in Korea a lot of parents have probably 3 strollers. One is the big everyday one for flexing on mom's in the park and walking to the store. One is an "umbrella" stroller. Flimsy and light weight. They fold up pretty small so they are great to throw in the car or travel with. And once the kid is old enough to sit up steadily they get a wagon. Often a big garden wagon. Some of them fold. Some are actually designed for kids. But these big guys are the family SUV of strollers. They carry the picnic basket and umbrella in there with the kid(s). They have mosquito nets and fans and tablets all mounted on arms. It's nuts.
I really hate these gigantic boxes that are used by "modern" parents on the beach. I get an instant allergy seeing their kids in those. Not only are they huge and take much space on beaches, but they look pretty retarded
In my social circle parents used to buy second had stroller: either a fancy royal style and would drive across Germany to a store specializing on restoring "antiques" or some dudestroller, because of concern for outgassing of new plastics. Funny thing is even the sellers get it and tell you that it's been a couple years old and safe. But most of the parents now use daytowels after their second kid and make them walk as soon as they are able to and willing. Let them gain a little self confidence and independence and explore on their own terms. We just walk a couple meters behind the little ones and sometimes are quite amused about the ideas they get. Every now and then, the kids make sure we're still there. Not in the streets with cars but in pedestrian areas or parks, local shopping places (not department stores). They learned quickly, that my local organic grocery store hands out fruits and sometimes ice cream to "little costumers" and seek it out, before we can go on to the park. Some use cargo bikes or bike trailers, which are also good for grocery shopping. Most parents in my area don't care about appearances, rather wear something not as nice, expecting the get dirty and muddy. Makes life easier.
Ha! I was born in Germany and my parents used a second hand stroller. We didn't have money to buy a space ship stroller. As I can see, I'm not lacking anything. Even after using a walker. People nowadays are ridiculous and panick over nothing
15 years ago I went for a set of carseat and stroller. My criteria: fits in my car, it's in a gender neutral color (because people are annoying and apparently you can't put a baby boy in a pink stroller) and its easy to use. I can't tell how much other parents nagged me about how their stroller was better than my basic one. It puzzles me to this day why so much people buy certain strollers. Also, why do kids tend to use the stroller for much longer. I stopped using the stroller around 2/3 years. I see much older kids in the stroller now. Is it because it was so expensive that they have to use it longer?
The older kids who use the stroller it would really depend on lifestyle, if the parents are outdoors alot because of their work or dont have a vehicle, it helps the kids who tire out and get sleepy during the day for nap time, strollers are their beds. Speaking from my experience, my parents made money setting up in flea markets and my mother didnt know how to drive... so the stroller was used for us until like 5yr old I think I know my brother would want to sit down and steal my stroller who was w years older then me.
Yeah, right? My coworker complained how everything is expensive and when I told her she can buy a second hand stroller, she was like WTF? I'll buy a new one. 😂 Ok, your problem if you spend 1000 euro for a stroller which you will use only one year. Also, I didn't understand parents pushing older kids in strollers. It's not normal for me. Same with using a pacifier longer than one year or breastfeeding an older kid. Like WTF? Are we making kids into incapable idiots? I was one year old and liked to walk next to my stroller
@@franfinesim a stroller isn't used for a year. mine was used for nearly 6 years, since I have 2 kids. And don't put breastfeeding into the same conversation. WHO recommends breastfeeding for at least 2 years and it's nothing that damages the environment (it actually helps the environment) or that means overconsumption so you can't really compare strollers with breast-feeding
@@micaelaferreira8337 no, I'm comparing how parents are acting idiotic and let their kids grow too dependent and incapable for anything. It's different when you have more kods, and in that case it's useful. The WHO is an organisation that lost credibility long time ago and is not someone I trust anymore... Also where did you get that's it's good for the environment? 😅😂 Sure, breasts are not of plastic, although we have microplastics in our blood, and milk. I am not crazy to give that to my child
When I first had my son I was pretty blown away by how costly strollers were, and just how many people care about specific brand names, just like any other status symbol, and then prices become ridiculous. Then you have the fact that there are a slew of parents that insist on everything being brand new, and everything being a big expensive brand. Then some of those people have multiple kids and each one has to have their own new expensive items. Now of course a little extra money for say a more sturdy built stroller (I live in Manitoba, so they need to be able to push through deep snow) is reasonable, but purely within what's critically necessary for function. We got ours second-hand, it was in great condition, and then we gave it to a friend that was having a kid shortly after we were going to be done with it, and I believe she was able to still pass it along as well. That's one benefit to reasonable cost on quality, but again, it's gotta be for quality and function, not a matter or brand or unnecessary features or design. That's just the strollers. I was surprised to see just how many items new parents do this with, from diaper bags to cribs, clothes to toys, and so much more. There is a lot of room for you guys to cover a lot of other parenting products/topics while staying absolutely within your usual product.
I had my first child in 2001. Before she popped our, I knew what I would NEED in a stroller. I was someone without a car in a small town and knew I would be walking anywhere I went, incl grocery shopping. It needed to be a jogging stroller b/c these were the only ones at the time with wheels big enough to handle snow (incl snowbanks). It had to have a big enough basket in the bottom to handle at least half of my weeks worth of groceries, so I could carry the rest in a backpack. It had to be tucked in enough that it could handle the aisles of a store easily ( a lot of the joggers at the time were really stretched out looking). AND, it had to incl an infant carseat as part of the package (budget). I didn't have a vehicle but I could always count on someone for a trip to a doctor appt or other occasion where a vehicle would be more appropriate and you also weren't allowed to leave a hospital with a baby at that time unless you could prove you had an infant carseat for them. And it had to be affordable b/c I was on a tight budget. I only ended up with one option b/c of all this criteria, the Jolly Jumper brand one. And it was also sturdy enough to be able to be used with my 2 other children that followed and the way that the carseat could lock onto it also accommodated new infant carseats! That, my friends, was a score and it had ZERO to do with status!!
You missed an opportunity to talk about the longboard stroller. That thing is hella cool. As a Diy er though, I bought a used jogging stroller and just replaced all the wheels with mower wheels. Took finagling but it worked fine.
I have my dads, mine and sisters pram that my Grandad made over 60 years ago. He was a metal fabricator and knew how to do upholstery (or taught himself), so he just made one out of off cuts of pipe over the course of a few months. If you want to know what it looks like it looks like the classic 1950 pram with 4 big fixed wheels and it even has a suspension system to it. The upholstery was made from wool or cotton blue tartan sheets (sort of like a picnic blanket). The Pram now sits in the loft in a plastic bag patiently awaiting its next assignment!
My sister just used a foldable handchart instead of a stroller. Has more space and can be used multiple ways. That thing made her the queen of every playground because nobody thought of using such a simple, cheap and practical solution. 😂
I think a parenting series would be really cool! I hope it would give parents and potential parents some comfort and good recommendations. I know many people are nervous about having kids because of climate anxiety and it would be great to have some resources to give perspective and a sense of support.
one thing ive learnt about baby shopping coming from someone with a big family is that babies grow fast, just pass on whatever to the next relative. my family has been passing on a crib for maybe 30 years and i just keep it until another baby arrives. we have shared clothes no matter the gender too
We bought ours used (a Baby Jogger City) and sold it to another family who we know used it for a number of years before selling it again. I'm just glad we bought a model that was solid and has seen use with multiple families! And almost 10 years later, I'm glad the period of my life folding a stroller into the back of a car is behind me. lol
Daddy Levi, I remember 10 or so years ago getting our kids there first stroller. When the wife and I started looking we saw the Graco gave us the most flexibility with car seats, stroller and shopping cart situations. Easy decision, swipe the card, done... now my little sister with her new born is going through this whole process and I do not envy her. So much has changed in only 10 years.
I think another important point, often times the more expensive brands will market "bundles" of attachments and bases for the strollers. This is extremely appealing to new parents that just want to buy everything in one place if it's from a trusted brand. Suddenly my stroller is also a carseat, bassinet, ect. And they all work in tandem with each other
I- what happened to the strollers that were just metal poles and a fabric hammock thing for a seat with a seat belt? Maybe a sun shade and if you were fancy had a bendy arm on it to hold a little fan or a dangle baby toy? I remember that from my childhood fondly.
I work for one of the stroller companies mentioned in this video - and I totally agree with you. Also - the baby jogger model you got (great choice btw) is as sturdy as anything so I don't know why that petty comment was ever made?
As a dude who isn’t dating but looking forward to having some bundles of joy, I can confirm I don’t care about what strollers people have. Yet, I am looking from the outside in. Laughing at the idea that I too may someday feel judged for whichever stroller I’ll be rocking.
I half agree. We have 3 kids and tried many strollers. I also thought that the stroller doesn’t matter and they all do the same, but then i have discovered Thule Cab and my live has changed! It is objectively a very good and versatile stroller where i can fit 4 kids if I want or 3 and get the whole house on the road! We even went skiing with it on the mountain! Amazing!
Ha! I was born in ‘95 and my dad also dragged me around in a radio flyer wagon for most of my childhood. He said it was easier to take care of me and get groceries at the same time
What surprises me more is the price of insulated winter coveralls or snowsuits for children. I bought an adult sized winter coverall for myself and thought it was rather expensive - until I saw the prices for the same item for toddlers! How can a piece of clothing that requires an eighth of the materials cost twice as much? They basically had the same specifications: Water resistant, polyester fiber insulation, nylon shell, hood, reflective stripes, etc. The only difference was that the adult version didn't have a Winnie the Pooh print on it.
Haha my main stroller is the Thule Chariot Cross... and I can confidently say it is the best all-round multisports stroller. It has a bike trailer mode, skiing mode, and jogging mode. Second favorite is not really a stroller, but the Tout Terrain Singletrailer that I ride the singletracks with with toddler in tow. My wife keeps the ubbababy in her trunk because she likes the form factor, I almost never use it lol.
When we traveled to Europe with our 10 month old we purchased a Doona that collapses into a car seat. That stroller was the MVP of that trip to Czechia.
Yes we loved our Doona! Brought it to the EU and everywhere. Until our kid got bored with facing the rear, hated the Doona and we had to upgade with an age appropriate car seat and separate stroller thats front facing. Lol. Thats the thing with baby gear and these kids, sometimes they hate it and there goes our money. 💸
As a new father all I was looking for was a functional and safe baby stroller that didn't break the bank. Also your dad using a red wagon as a stroller goes hard. 😎😎
Back home in Korea, there are "functional strollers" which are the sturdy high kind, and "play strollers" which are literally plastic mercedes that are pushed along the ground. The whole stroller marketing thing is insane
such strong daddy energy. In a lovable wholesome parent kinda way. Also this is much better family content as in; "I have kids, I'm not showing them, instead; here's a video about strollers"
1st time I bought a okish stroller, for my 2nd kid I used the 1st stroller I bought, when I got to the 3rd one I got a used stroller and gave it away when she grew out of it. I don't judge parents by the strollers, I couldn't care less about other parents, with 3 kids I don't have time for that stuff. 😂
This explains why I saw a stroller ad with a literal crash-safety rating 😅. I don't have kids so I was like... "oh boy, if its a crash with a car, I think that 1500 piece of junk will *still* fold".
We got a great deal on our stroller used, I was very happy to get one that was very easy to push over any terrain and worked well even when there weren't curb cuts. I think we paid around $160 CAD on a stroller that is $700 new, and then we sold it for around $100 a few years later. :) Jogging Stroller - Mountain Buggy Urban Jungle
My kids are grown but I’d love to see more on how the industry has changed over the years. I had one of those (vintage) Silver Cross pramsband loved it - however, it wouldn’t fit in the car and I couldn’t get it in the house its was so big! we even have a shot of three of the neighborhood babies/toddlers sitting up all in a row like ducks in it for a photograph. It was awesome.
Yes, please to more parenting content. This was hilarious and relatable. I tried to thrift or borrow as much as could when I was collecting baby gear. I did end up going with a jogging stroller because I thought it would be so great for being outdoors and like going to parks. Which it totally is and I love it but also takes over my entire trunk of my car so kind of annoying too. . . Would also love to see your take on diapers (cloth vs. disposable, are the "compostable" diapers even remotely compostable.) Thanks for sharing!
For 1 kid, we had a $10 umbrella stroller. For 2 kids we needed something bigger, and the cheapest in line option cost $300. We didn't want side by side so we could fit through doorways easier. But this thing was so long that I was nervous at intersections, the stroller stuck out so far ahead that we couldn't see very well. But at least we could clip the car seat directly into it. Not that we ever needed that ability...
We got our stroller secondhand from my husband’s colleague, and as much as I was tempted to buy these fancy ones, the one we had did the job just fine, and our baby grew out of it after a year. He’s not too fond of being in a stroller anymore
I can't shake off the feeling that stroller used to last a lot longer when I was a child than the new ones. I got my sis stroller, she's two years older. And now my sis had to buy new stroller for my second nephew. He's two years younger than his brother . The first stroller she bought broke just at right time when she rarely use it.
Fellow new parent here! We were bamboozled by the boujee baby scene. Bought the Nuna car seat and the veer stroller with fancy bassinet! He hated all of it.
I have 4 kids, all pretty close in age. I have a bassinet stroller and a double jogging stroller. I didn't purchase either of them, both were baby shower gifts. The double jogging stroller is a game changer in rural Arkansas. But y'all, if you're in the USA locate yourself a second hand baby shop, like Once Upon a Child and save like 80% on everything, including a stroller.
Three people brought Uppababy Vistas to the welding shop I work at to fix cracks in the frame. This was maybe 7 years ago and they might have stronger frames now, but that left a bad impression on me.
I‘m sure this is a thing in my country as well, but most people I know will pass strollers on to the next parent in the family. „My“ stroller went to my cousin and so on. Babygear that isn’t needed constantly will be borrowed. Boxes of older cousins clothes at grandma’s to choose from. Saved a lot of money I believe 😅
I got the Uppababy Vista for my first in 2011 and it was incredible. Sure it cost a ton but it lived through the second as well with extra attachments to handle both.
5 kids here, first pram/stroller we got was imported from germany! To Australia! It was a Mutsy and it was awesome. Except for the fact my wife couldn't fold the damn thing up. The most important function. Crazy looking back on it now. We soon learnt that there was only one stroller we needed. New Zealand made Mountain Buggy. They were bombproof, easy to collapse, lots of accessories, and reasonably priced.
Crazy, I am a parent of three and had no idea this was such a thing. I was just happy to have the stroller with the clip in car seat for easy transfer from car to stroller. I think I paid $350 for the stroller and carseat duel at the time. I'm glad I missed out on the hip stroller crowd.
So funny this is coming out now. Was worried you were going to crush my dreams for a second. We are on the search for our stroller and experiencing all this
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I have 2 kids, we're past the stroller era now but the ones we used to have were all bought second hand. No point in wasting so much money on things you will be using for just a brief period of time. After we were done with them, we sold them so next kids can make use of them. THIS is the real recycling and caring about the planet (plus your wallet will thank you :)
love this mentality!
1000% this^
The second hand stroller for my first baby just arrived and is in such an amazing condition. Why would I ever spend so much money on something used for such a short time?
My older 3 in 2004, 2006 and 2008, we were happy with an Eddie Bauer second hand. There were much fancier ones but they didn't seem relevant to us. We did buy a cheap umbrella stroller later. It worked. When the older child was big enough to walk, the younger one went into the stroller. This was in Toronto, big winters but a stroller mostly used in cleared parking lots was fine.
Then 2022 we had twins in northern Canada and I have a previous back injury. Parking lots full of snow and ice for 6 months of the year, we needed something with bigger wheels and especially in the first 6 months, I wanted both facing me, in arms reach for the many appointments coming and daily walks. We splurged on a $2000 bugaboo donkey. It's not a place where other parents buy expensive strollers, they tend to hibernate for the winter. We wear snowsuits and get out every day because I'm prone to seasonal depression, I can't just hibernate. When the snow is really, really bad, I strap some skis on the bottom of the wheels. Doesn't look pretty but gets us out the door.
I hadn't thought I would spend that sort of money on a stroller before our twins. But for the versatility and my mental health, it was money well spent. Which is funny when you compare the ikea highchairs, used clothes, and Graco car seats, and ten years old minivan. We're not typically spending people, but there are times we've realized it's not worth the hassle of being cheap, just pay for whatever conveniences can make a tough slog a little easier.
We need a parenting series! 💯
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I didn't know strollers can get into the thousands until a niece was gifted one during her baby shower. I think it was about ~$6000. I was shock. Most expensive one I got was about $150 and it was a hard purchase. LOL
How about you build a stroller out of everything you can find at your hardware store?
At those numbers I'd expect to be able to drive myself to work in that thing....
I'm finding it hard to believe it was 6k, even the Gucci stroller is 5k. The most expensive real stroller I can find is the cybex Epriam which even in gold plated form is only 2k, the only way you get higher is buying an absurd number of seats
@@manyman234I agree lol maybe $1200-1600 though
I'm not a parent, but the first time one of my close friends had a baby, I was shocked to learn that some of these strollers can cost _multiple_ thousands of dollars. 🤯
similar experience here, we didn't even know it was like... a whole thing
@@LeviHildebrandYT when you all open about having a baby my thought was pets.. so maybe thats why
We spent about $400 for a stroller/car seat/baby carrier combo that could grow with our baby, and I considered that expensive. Worse yet is that we haven't used it a single time as a stroller; it's a lot easier and more convenient to just carry our baby around in a wrap. The biggest thing I've learned since having a child is that parents are being convinced left and right to buy things that are either overpriced or completely unnecessary; the only things we've bought that aren't secondhand were a bassinet, that car seat/stroller combo, and cloth diapers, and we're keeping it that way.
I bought my stroller 2nd hand for about 75USD and it has been a great investment. But TBH nowadays, since moving to a third floor apartment, I'm getting the most use out of a cheap 15USD umbrella stroller. Its lightweight and foldable, easy to haul up/down stairs, onto buses, subways, etc. Those big fancy strollers seem great for when you're actively strolling, but the rest of the time they seem big, clunky, and impractical.
You haven't strolled with you baby yet?
I've used the stroller for my son alot but we didn't buy it. Sadly he is to big for it now
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Future Proof definitely needs more videos on the the whole parenting life style thing. When we were shopping for stuff for our son It was crazy how expensive this stuff is. Designer shoes/clothing, $3000 strollers, social media influencers, etc When you start following the money you can see where things are going lol.
Thanks Daddy Levi for a great vid!
Yes this whole subject of parenting classism and stuff is interesting
I think the whole "posturing" thing would be very interesting to look at.
Was chatting to my 70 year old dad yesterday about it. I said it was a shame so many well employed, dual income families are living week to week. To which he replied. In my day, no-one aspired to having anything but a roof over their head. Life wasn't a fashion show. People had work-life balance. Now all my family have mortgages they will die with, cars that are way more complex and flashy than needed, new iPhones, handbags, sunnies, clothing of course...the list just goes on. Many countries have gone this way. Here in Australia people are leveraged to the hilt. Even my teenage niece feels like she "needs" a big truck.
People seem to feel very inadequate.
I note...this has gotten worse since we were all locked inside for two years.
@@jeffmcdonald101 Social media has had a HUGE influence as well. I have heard comments about fashion where a woman is questioning why she likes something-is it because she actually likes it or is it because she likes it in other peoples outfits or she sees it all over Instagram and TikTok
Agree, I would watch more of this content please!
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@@jeffmcdonald101 the situation is so strange now. It seems like the millennial/gen Z generation can access all these luxuries that I couldn't imagine my parents indulging in growing up, like international vacationing, eating out, trendy items and yet housing and food prices are out of control. I don't need a destination wedding or the newest car or to go travelling or a room full of toys or an extra af birthday party, but both me and my partner will have to work full time and invest if we want even a single separate bedroom from our hypothetical 1-3 children and still have any hope of retiring. I think a lot of parents nowadays are trying to cope with uncertainty in their future with these luxury purchases that they undoubtedly can't afford.
Currently 37 weeks pregnant with my first child and would be SO down for more parent-related content 😄 My partner and I moved from the SF Bay Area to Amsterdam a couple years ago for many reasons, and one of the cultural differences I am so grateful for is the lack of "keeping up with the Joneses" or trying to one-up each other. We feel zero pressure to make decisions based on expressing social classism or avoiding judgment from others here. 80% of the baby supplies we have gathered are either gifted, purchased secondhand, or being rented from an amazing Dutch company called Tiny Library, including our bassinet, reusable diapers, and baby carrier. (Pretty much everyone I've told about Tiny Library gives me the 🤯 reaction.)
On that note, we plan to exclusively use a baby carrier and no stroller at all. A few reasons for this: (1) we live car-free, so just cycling, using public transport, or walking, (2) we live on the 2nd/3rd floors of a typical Dutch house (tiny steep staircase with zero space in the front entrance to store anything but a few shoes and coats) and there is NO way we're carrying a stroller up and down those stairs daily, (3) we personally disliked how much space strollers take up in public even before we got pregnant, and we also see how much other parents struggle with managing their strollers on the trains, trams, etc.). Basically we will be carrying our baby for as long as possible, and when she is able to walk, that is what we will have her do. (Again, this is such a non-traditional way of doing things, most people give us the 🤯reaction.) Granted, since this is our first child, we are perfectly aware that this plan of ours may not work out, and we fully acknowledge that we may develop reasons to get a stroller anyway. If that happens, we intend to rent it from Tiny Library, purely based on the features that fit our needs, without any consideration for what other parents might think, because here in the Netherlands, we "doe normaal" by being direct and practical and minding our own business.
Yes i love babywearing too! We don't have a car, and i hate waiting for lifts, so baby wearing is perfect and the pram is only reserved for park visits etc!
Babywearing can be a great choice depending on parents needs. For me in the newborn phase it was so much easier to just put on a stretchy carrier as part of getting dressed in the morning then baby is happy and you can get stuff done with 2 hands. On the other hand my sister couldn't cope with the feeling of being touched all the time and found stopping and starting tasks to tend to a fussy baby less annoying than holding them all the time.
Tiny Library sounds amazing! What a fantastic idea.
I have a 6 month old and still just use a baby wrap, don't own a stroller. It's great!
Living car-free only works if you live in the big city, work there and remain there. So yeah it works for Amsterdam, Utrecht, The Hague and Rotterdam.
But I live in a village near Arnhem (in the east of the country) and a car is quite necessary, doing the weekly groceries by bike is almost a day job involving multiple trips to different supermarkets, farmers and greenhouses.
I cannot fathom living without a car, but life on the countryside is different, even in a highly urbanized country as the Netherlands.
I chose the first stroller on parenting magazine reviews and then found the cheapest one. It was a heavy beast. I had an older mom explain how an umbrella stroller would change my world.
As soon as kiddo could sit up by themselves, I got one. OMG it was game changer. Lighter, easier to open and close, took up less space and so much cheaper.
Bugaboos weren't big until my kids were in school but they look cool!
I'm utterly flabbergasted by the TACTICAL stroller! 😳
As a newish dad (about 1.5 years on the job) the desire to splash out on your kid is so high. It feels like you're letting your baby down when you can't provide them with the best. Even though they are just as likely to eat dirt or cotton balls as they are to eat their dinner or a cookie.
Levi: “Strollers finally became something sort of somewhat affordable for the middle class…”
Me: “Oh awesome! Maybe I should…”
Levi: “For $630”
Me: “Which middle class are we talking about again?”
Middle class also includes things like doctors and lawyers.
It's people who have money to spend, but still need to work for a living.
Upper class people are the people who make money through owning stuff, like stocks and factories.
If you don't have money to splurge on an occasional luxury, you probably aren't middle class.
There is a reason why people are saying the middle class is shrinking, more and more people are not in the middle class anymore.
Jogging strollers were super clutch for us when our daughter was young...I trained her up to enjoying a neighborhood 10k...as a side benefit the training became harder as she grew :)
Daddy Levi, rocking a waste free, Subaru “share the love” drive, vegan leather, organic, all natural, hydro flask, Nalgene stroller… national parks edition. 😂❤
We bought a nuna stroller and car seat. It was about $1500. The nice quality and cushy feel were a big part. There's nothing wrong with wanting something that feels well made. We could afford it easily. But the other part is, they do have functionality. The car seat was the lightest one on the market. Carrying the baby upstairs is a lot easier when the carseat doesn't weigh 20lbs on its own. The wheels on the stroller are bigger and handle uneven sidewalk with less jostling. It folds up easier. The car seat slots into the base in the car much easier and smoother than the graco stroller we got for our baby shower. It's not just a waste of money. It's small conveniences that are worth the price, if the stroller doesn't represent a week of your paycheck.
Flex baby, flex.
1 kid, 0 stroller.
Have been carrying around this guy in a "pouch" for the entire time and I loved it as a dad.
The babywearing industry might be even weirder though, and flexing your merch is totally present.
Oh, and judgement... yes...
Good grief
As long as you don't let it invade the whole channel, some videos about the parenting lyfestyle would be nice.
good to know!!
@@LeviHildebrandYT I feel like it's extremely relevant to the usual content you make - It's just a specific sub category of consumerism is all. And a very big one at that.
I plan on having a kid one day, personally. And it'd be nice to have a tidy little Futureproof "Parenting" playlist to reference at the time, when I suddenly have to make all these stressful purchasing decisions myself.
@@leahb6013Like we could see another video on bottles or something.
I think the consumerism aspect of weddings and babies is interesting. I am not married nor do I have children yet, but I know for a fact I want to get married in nature, low budget, and my kids will have mostly secondhand clothes. They grow so fast and get so dirty, what is the point?
@@sarahkinsey5434 This is very true. I’m not married and don’t have any children either but I’m looking forward to seeing what kinds of clothes they’ll have based on what’s cool at the time. 😊
"You better not comment daddy" lol
my sister raised two kids without ever buying, borrowing or using a stroller 😅 just she and her partner juggling the baby/toddler in those ergobaby straps until the toddler was big enough to do their own walking for longer than 15 minutes. said they "couldn't be f*cked with those baby carriage tanks and all the hassle". I still can't wrap my mind around the perseverance and arm strength 😅 but I do think fondly of her approach every time I'm jostled around the metro by people with baby carriage tanks.
Such a daddy, he proofs us for the future
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Never have I thought of my baby sister's stroller as a fashion accessory 😭😭😭
I never thought of it as an accessory. It's not my stroller it's my baby's as long as it does what it needs to then I could care less about what it looks like.
You didn’t mention anything about used baby gear. I hardly bought anything new for my babies (except diapers and baby food). You’ve got to buy used baby things or accept hand-me-downs from friends and relatives. Your kids outgrow these things so quickly.
I was also surprised that used strollers weren't mentioned given Levi talks about buying used whenever possible in lots of other videos.
This is hilarious to me. A stroller is just a short term tool to make your life a little easier & if people are judging others based on their choices I think theyre simply trying to justify their own waste of money to themselves. If you want to overspend on something do it on something like a car seat for safety or start a college fund. But I've always been a practical person who avoids trends, as you may have noticed if youve read my comments.
The highlight of this video though was Levi doing the detergent ad & using a tactic he highlighted in a previous video concerning detergent pods. In that video he pointed out manufacturers had to create a need for them by talking about having to lug heavy bottles around, something no one had considered an issue; yet today here was Levi talking about the same thing. It made me giggle. :)
>college fund
Yeah, good idea. Putting money away to make the kid into a dummy that knows how to riot like there's no tomorrow.
@@Code7Unltd how long have you been watching these two? Do you really believe they aren't going to want their child to go to college?
I happen to agree with you but everyone is different.
@@flaval24 I'm saying a blue-collar trade is better, and colleges can't teach trades.
Especially as most of the white-collar jobs that colleges teach for are being firebombed by chatbots.
It's also a reflection of how INSECURE these "parents" are. Like? Do they want to pass on the judgemental attitude with their child? Because that's what's gonna happen further down the line with all this judgemental nonsense.
@@HeatherLandon227 wow. I'm pretty sure you don't recognize the irony in your comment so all I'll say is that opinions are like rights- everyone has them but one person's ends where the other's begins. It's not for me or anyone else to tell someone what to do with their child unless they ask. Besides, Frankie isn't even a year old yet, who knows what colleges will be like by the time he goes?
We got rid of 1 car, moved closer to a bus stop and grocery store. And currently we use one of the Chariots from Thule, also above the one thousand dollars mark but it is versatile and also goes over snow, tow it with the bike and tow it when cross country skiing. totally worth it if you are not car dependent. You save thousands a year with 1 less car.
Chariots from Thule sounds like a 1930s sword and sorcery book where the women wear bikini armor 😆
Costs more than my first car.
The Nordic three in one, Stroller, bicycle cart and ski sled.
the sled part really gets me, like why?@@yvindharila8225
I didn't need more reasons to not have a kid, and this video dropped lol.
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@@LeviHildebrandYT making the world future proof?
Don't make excuses. Embrace the responsibility like a man or a woman.
@@Myownchanelhere get out of here with your nonsense 😆. Not everyone needs to have a kid.
@@Myownchanelhere there's a lot of reasons why someone would not have a kid. I can handle my nieces for a few hours at a time, but being able to handle the full-time is beyond what I'm capable of...or really even them, because my cousin (who is happily married) has a lot of help with watching them. Takes a village.
YES, daddy Levi! Parenting is one of the most missing aspects of any genre of videos, including my areas of urbanism, neighborhood development and transportation. We need the voices of those who are parents to pull back the curtain, share their experiences, tribulations and successes, as models, inspiration and support for those considering to take on or have taken on the responsibility. Even if you have pull back the amount of footage later for their own privacy, please be the leaders in this desperately needed topic with your honesty and humility!
0:52 whole series! whole series!
My wife and I have the Uppababy Vista but end up using a $60 dollar travel stroller we were gifted the majority of the time. It's light and compact, which are benefits that outweigh any of the features offered on the tank strollers.
I tried to get my son to use alternative/compact strollers, but he refuses. Lol. He prefers the uppababy only. It is more comfortable though, I gotta admit.
The uppababy is very useful from birth if you're using a stroller a lot and not just to hold the baby between car rides. While it is massive taking it on the subway with the insane storage space and upgraded comfort meant that I could go anywhere easily without a car. Same for groceries. I would just walk to the store, load up a whole grocery load in the bottom, and then walk home. Can't really do that with an infant in a travel stroller. Later as my kid got bigger I got the itsy travel stroller and that thing holds nothing but is probably the absolutely most compact and light stroller to exist so far. Very useful with a kid that is in and out a lot and for museums and such.
I bet there’s a market for well crafted, minimalist strollers! A common theme is that the big ones just don’t port well-kind of like they’re for suburban moms who venture out in the subdivision but rarely take it for an errand.
I’m of an age where the no-frills “travel” strollers were $25 & the super fancy ones were almost $200. I heard from so many people that the travel stroller will be the one used over and over & that the fancy one will be treated like a special outfit: only brought out a few times a year to impress others. It’s very strange to see how drastically things have changed in this area. I get that the currently high-end items are lightweight and collapsible like the travel strollers of my day, but I’d never drop that much on a stroller. I’d be too afraid to use it in case it got stolen or puked/pooped on.
I swear by the Uppababy Vista, I knew we were having more kids and the investment from the beginning was going to pay off and boy was I RIGHT !! We are now 3 under 4 years old and they all fit in one stroller!! We've travelled all over the place, the stroller survived the airplanes, the beaches, the sand, the forests. All the technicalities come in handy when needed - one stroller for everything, all the kids instead of a different one for different occasions, or child.
We've relocated to France and no one sells or knows the Uppababy Vista here and I still SWEAR by mine - so it's not about keeping up with the Joneses, it is legit an amazing product depending on your lifestyle.
The bassinet is even an approved bed and we used it as a bedside bassinet for our second after relocating - literally all the pieces ended up coming in handy (we didn't actually use it for our first).
All this to say, my friend who also had 3 kids (not planned - so she couldn't have known) ended up having to change strollers after each kid; buying a total of 3 strollers... if you know what type of lifestyle you want to live with your child, if your having multiples, etc, I would encourage to just invest from the get-go.
When my kids were little we were big fans of the cheap, crappy umbrella strollers. They were light, nimble, small, easy to fold, didn't take any room in the car, and basically disposable. We had a fancy expensive one (for the time) but it was a pain to take places because it was big and heavy and slow and not maneuverable and took up half the trunk. So 99% of the time we opted for the tiny crappy one.
That makes sense. It's not like the kid gives a crap, they're barely even aware of existing.
“My kid’s really good but I am tired a lot of the time” should be my personal catchphrase…. 6mo momma here and this video in particular hits so close to home as we think about getting a jogging stroller since our current Graco has NO need for speed 😂
Not gonna lie, we are a two stroller family. But rather than spending close to a thousand dollars for one of those luxury ones, we got the two cheaper ones which serve different functions. First we got a small, lightweight, and compact stroller that was still newborn compatible and keep that in the back of the car. The point was to be able to move our kid around from day one, while still fitting in even a small sedan, and not breaking my back every time I have to drag it in and out of the trunk. We can even cram it into the small exam room at the pediatrician's office. But it wasn't great for our nanny who takes our kiddo to the neighborhood park every day. It had little storage and small wheels that don't handle grass / woodchips / rubber play areas very well. So for her we focused on a model that had tons of storage and kept it set up in the garage with all the baby supplies and toys she would need every day. The combined cost of the two (plus accessories) is still less than a single luxury stroller and it's so much more functional. The other neighborhood nannies are actually a little jealous of how much storage is in our cheap 'park stroller'.
definitely interested in more videos on family stuff!
The benefit with Strollers is that the resale value of them is actually very good! Unlike buying second hand carseats (which can be more risky), there isn't a safety risk.
Cammo strollers?
Dad:"Oh God where's my kid?!?!"
Shrubbery: whaaaah whaaaaah whaaah!
Dad: "Oh."
Uppababy stroller is more sophisticated than my bike 😂
I can’t help but imagine soldiers pushing tactical strollers in war.
I swear as a european who got raised in a city with trams trains and busses there where strollers like these in the 90s already. because here regardless of gender you need a sturdy stroller to go in public transport
also i was the third kid using my stroller and after i grew out of it it still was well off enough so my mother gave it to another friend of hers who was expecting.
i cant imagine spending so much money on a stroller second hand for the win
We have a Nuna Demi Grow (for a potential second baby) and we had to think long and hard before buying it since it is also close to the $1K mark and we did not want to spend a ton of money on a stroller initially. But, the reason for choosing Nuna was because of it being free of PFAs and flame retardants since almost all of the strollers/car seats have PFAs and flame retardants which require the manufacturers using highly toxic chemicals. Babies are more vulnerable when it comes to toxic substances so we finally pulled the plug. The all terrain feature came as a bonus and we started taking hikes with it every day including the Swiss mountain tops during our travels! But then it made us go down this rabbit hole of PFAs and flame retardants in general since SO MANY of the baby products have them and it pushed us to have a lifestyle change.
Yasssss to the parenting content by the way.
The wagon idea is the best one. It has multiple uses including being used asa a stroller.
I have no kids of my own but was completly floored when my sis telled me about it. I had really no idea. Truly insane prices for what they charge for regular strollers "only" in the 500-range, at that point I expect them to come with in-built air-condition, extremely smooth suspension & an advanced media-suite.
No wonder these things gets handed down from generations...
My 2 cents as a someone with a kid that's grown up and out of the stroller stage (he's double digits now lol). Get a stroller that comes with a car seat base for a baby. Nothing worse than having to wake up a sleeping baby to put them into or take them out of the car. A seat that can go from car to stroller base without unbuckling your baby is a truly wonderful thing.
As someone that cloth diapered our kid, I gotta say we had a bad time with the microfiber inserts. They start great at first, but they lose absorbancy over time and eventually they pick up a stink that no amount of washing or stripping will get rid of. We eventually switched to cotton prefolds, you can use them just like the microfiber inserts, but they're much easier to clean (because cotton). They also have a multitude of uses after your kid(s) no longer requires diapers.
Amen. Being able to take the whole seat out and gently clip it into the base in the car is the only way to go
We did the whole stroller thing for about 6 months. Then i switched to baby wearing and never looked back
So my parents apparently paid what is now equivalent to 460€ for mine at the end of the 90s.
About what I expected and despite its functions not that luxurious.
Yes more parenting stuff! Given the cloth diapers in your video, I'd be super interested to hear about why they are becoming popular again. Are they really eco-friendly, save money, etc?
Thank you Daddy for another banger video
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Oh Levi, you're so cute! Your dad wasn't the only one who used a wagon.
I haven't gotten to the end yet, but collapsible wagon are freaking expensive too.
A series on the whole parenting phenomena is an interest. Letting you know per your instruction on this video. Cheers 😁
Good to know!! Hahah thanks 🙏
Here in Korea a lot of parents have probably 3 strollers. One is the big everyday one for flexing on mom's in the park and walking to the store. One is an "umbrella" stroller. Flimsy and light weight. They fold up pretty small so they are great to throw in the car or travel with. And once the kid is old enough to sit up steadily they get a wagon. Often a big garden wagon. Some of them fold. Some are actually designed for kids. But these big guys are the family SUV of strollers. They carry the picnic basket and umbrella in there with the kid(s). They have mosquito nets and fans and tablets all mounted on arms. It's nuts.
I really hate these gigantic boxes that are used by "modern" parents on the beach. I get an instant allergy seeing their kids in those. Not only are they huge and take much space on beaches, but they look pretty retarded
Hold on let me get my Bugatti Stroller SuperSport
In my social circle parents used to buy second had stroller: either a fancy royal style and would drive across Germany to a store specializing on restoring "antiques" or some dudestroller, because of concern for outgassing of new plastics. Funny thing is even the sellers get it and tell you that it's been a couple years old and safe. But most of the parents now use daytowels after their second kid and make them walk as soon as they are able to and willing. Let them gain a little self confidence and independence and explore on their own terms. We just walk a couple meters behind the little ones and sometimes are quite amused about the ideas they get. Every now and then, the kids make sure we're still there. Not in the streets with cars but in pedestrian areas or parks, local shopping places (not department stores). They learned quickly, that my local organic grocery store hands out fruits and sometimes ice cream to "little costumers" and seek it out, before we can go on to the park. Some use cargo bikes or bike trailers, which are also good for grocery shopping. Most parents in my area don't care about appearances, rather wear something not as nice, expecting the get dirty and muddy. Makes life easier.
Ha! I was born in Germany and my parents used a second hand stroller. We didn't have money to buy a space ship stroller. As I can see, I'm not lacking anything. Even after using a walker. People nowadays are ridiculous and panick over nothing
15 years ago I went for a set of carseat and stroller. My criteria: fits in my car, it's in a gender neutral color (because people are annoying and apparently you can't put a baby boy in a pink stroller) and its easy to use. I can't tell how much other parents nagged me about how their stroller was better than my basic one. It puzzles me to this day why so much people buy certain strollers. Also, why do kids tend to use the stroller for much longer. I stopped using the stroller around 2/3 years. I see much older kids in the stroller now. Is it because it was so expensive that they have to use it longer?
The older kids who use the stroller it would really depend on lifestyle, if the parents are outdoors alot because of their work or dont have a vehicle, it helps the kids who tire out and get sleepy during the day for nap time, strollers are their beds. Speaking from my experience, my parents made money setting up in flea markets and my mother didnt know how to drive... so the stroller was used for us until like 5yr old I think I know my brother would want to sit down and steal my stroller who was w years older then me.
Yeah, right? My coworker complained how everything is expensive and when I told her she can buy a second hand stroller, she was like WTF? I'll buy a new one. 😂 Ok, your problem if you spend 1000 euro for a stroller which you will use only one year. Also, I didn't understand parents pushing older kids in strollers. It's not normal for me. Same with using a pacifier longer than one year or breastfeeding an older kid. Like WTF? Are we making kids into incapable idiots? I was one year old and liked to walk next to my stroller
@@franfinesim a stroller isn't used for a year. mine was used for nearly 6 years, since I have 2 kids. And don't put breastfeeding into the same conversation. WHO recommends breastfeeding for at least 2 years and it's nothing that damages the environment (it actually helps the environment) or that means overconsumption so you can't really compare strollers with breast-feeding
@@micaelaferreira8337 no, I'm comparing how parents are acting idiotic and let their kids grow too dependent and incapable for anything. It's different when you have more kods, and in that case it's useful. The WHO is an organisation that lost credibility long time ago and is not someone I trust anymore... Also where did you get that's it's good for the environment? 😅😂 Sure, breasts are not of plastic, although we have microplastics in our blood, and milk. I am not crazy to give that to my child
When I first had my son I was pretty blown away by how costly strollers were, and just how many people care about specific brand names, just like any other status symbol, and then prices become ridiculous. Then you have the fact that there are a slew of parents that insist on everything being brand new, and everything being a big expensive brand. Then some of those people have multiple kids and each one has to have their own new expensive items.
Now of course a little extra money for say a more sturdy built stroller (I live in Manitoba, so they need to be able to push through deep snow) is reasonable, but purely within what's critically necessary for function. We got ours second-hand, it was in great condition, and then we gave it to a friend that was having a kid shortly after we were going to be done with it, and I believe she was able to still pass it along as well. That's one benefit to reasonable cost on quality, but again, it's gotta be for quality and function, not a matter or brand or unnecessary features or design.
That's just the strollers. I was surprised to see just how many items new parents do this with, from diaper bags to cribs, clothes to toys, and so much more. There is a lot of room for you guys to cover a lot of other parenting products/topics while staying absolutely within your usual product.
I'm probably in the minority but I don't have kids, not gonna have kids, and not interested in parenting stuff. Daddy.
Congratulations!!🎉
There is nothing more pleasing than
Taking babies 👶 on great adventures
Peace and love to you all!,,
Nice video!
I had my first child in 2001. Before she popped our, I knew what I would NEED in a stroller. I was someone without a car in a small town and knew I would be walking anywhere I went, incl grocery shopping. It needed to be a jogging stroller b/c these were the only ones at the time with wheels big enough to handle snow (incl snowbanks). It had to have a big enough basket in the bottom to handle at least half of my weeks worth of groceries, so I could carry the rest in a backpack. It had to be tucked in enough that it could handle the aisles of a store easily ( a lot of the joggers at the time were really stretched out looking). AND, it had to incl an infant carseat as part of the package (budget). I didn't have a vehicle but I could always count on someone for a trip to a doctor appt or other occasion where a vehicle would be more appropriate and you also weren't allowed to leave a hospital with a baby at that time unless you could prove you had an infant carseat for them. And it had to be affordable b/c I was on a tight budget. I only ended up with one option b/c of all this criteria, the Jolly Jumper brand one. And it was also sturdy enough to be able to be used with my 2 other children that followed and the way that the carseat could lock onto it also accommodated new infant carseats! That, my friends, was a score and it had ZERO to do with status!!
You missed an opportunity to talk about the longboard stroller. That thing is hella cool. As a Diy er though, I bought a used jogging stroller and just replaced all the wheels with mower wheels. Took finagling but it worked fine.
I have my dads, mine and sisters pram that my Grandad made over 60 years ago. He was a metal fabricator and knew how to do upholstery (or taught himself), so he just made one out of off cuts of pipe over the course of a few months.
If you want to know what it looks like it looks like the classic 1950 pram with 4 big fixed wheels and it even has a suspension system to it. The upholstery was made from wool or cotton blue tartan sheets (sort of like a picnic blanket). The Pram now sits in the loft in a plastic bag patiently awaiting its next assignment!
My sister just used a foldable handchart instead of a stroller. Has more space and can be used multiple ways. That thing made her the queen of every playground because nobody thought of using such a simple, cheap and practical solution. 😂
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I'm just LOVING this daddy Levi content
I think a parenting series would be really cool! I hope it would give parents and potential parents some comfort and good recommendations. I know many people are nervous about having kids because of climate anxiety and it would be great to have some resources to give perspective and a sense of support.
I thank my parents for making sure I had super swag when I was a baby and had a proper Royal Silver Cross pram. 🙌
one thing ive learnt about baby shopping coming from someone with a big family is that babies grow fast, just pass on whatever to the next relative. my family has been passing on a crib for maybe 30 years and i just keep it until another baby arrives. we have shared clothes no matter the gender too
We bought ours used (a Baby Jogger City) and sold it to another family who we know used it for a number of years before selling it again. I'm just glad we bought a model that was solid and has seen use with multiple families! And almost 10 years later, I'm glad the period of my life folding a stroller into the back of a car is behind me. lol
Thanks for the video, daddy
Daddy Levi, I remember 10 or so years ago getting our kids there first stroller. When the wife and I started looking we saw the Graco gave us the most flexibility with car seats, stroller and shopping cart situations. Easy decision, swipe the card, done... now my little sister with her new born is going through this whole process and I do not envy her. So much has changed in only 10 years.
I think another important point, often times the more expensive brands will market "bundles" of attachments and bases for the strollers.
This is extremely appealing to new parents that just want to buy everything in one place if it's from a trusted brand.
Suddenly my stroller is also a carseat, bassinet, ect. And they all work in tandem with each other
Fellow new dad and long time fan of your channel, +1 for the parenting series!
I- what happened to the strollers that were just metal poles and a fabric hammock thing for a seat with a seat belt? Maybe a sun shade and if you were fancy had a bendy arm on it to hold a little fan or a dangle baby toy? I remember that from my childhood fondly.
I'm a maternity social worker at a hospital in New York and would love parenting phenomenon vids. Big hug to you and Leah! And Frankie too
I work for one of the stroller companies mentioned in this video - and I totally agree with you.
Also - the baby jogger model you got (great choice btw) is as sturdy as anything so I don't know why that petty comment was ever made?
Daddy Levi has a really nice ring to it 😂
As a dude who isn’t dating but looking forward to having some bundles of joy, I can confirm I don’t care about what strollers people have. Yet, I am looking from the outside in. Laughing at the idea that I too may someday feel judged for whichever stroller I’ll be rocking.
I half agree. We have 3 kids and tried many strollers. I also thought that the stroller doesn’t matter and they all do the same, but then i have discovered Thule Cab and my live has changed! It is objectively a very good and versatile stroller where i can fit 4 kids if I want or 3 and get the whole house on the road! We even went skiing with it on the mountain! Amazing!
Ha! I was born in ‘95 and my dad also dragged me around in a radio flyer wagon for most of my childhood. He said it was easier to take care of me and get groceries at the same time
What surprises me more is the price of insulated winter coveralls or snowsuits for children. I bought an adult sized winter coverall for myself and thought it was rather expensive - until I saw the prices for the same item for toddlers! How can a piece of clothing that requires an eighth of the materials cost twice as much? They basically had the same specifications: Water resistant, polyester fiber insulation, nylon shell, hood, reflective stripes, etc. The only difference was that the adult version didn't have a Winnie the Pooh print on it.
Haha my main stroller is the Thule Chariot Cross... and I can confidently say it is the best all-round multisports stroller. It has a bike trailer mode, skiing mode, and jogging mode. Second favorite is not really a stroller, but the Tout Terrain Singletrailer that I ride the singletracks with with toddler in tow. My wife keeps the ubbababy in her trunk because she likes the form factor, I almost never use it lol.
When we traveled to Europe with our 10 month old we purchased a Doona that collapses into a car seat.
That stroller was the MVP of that trip to Czechia.
Yes we loved our Doona! Brought it to the EU and everywhere. Until our kid got bored with facing the rear, hated the Doona and we had to upgade with an age appropriate car seat and separate stroller thats front facing. Lol. Thats the thing with baby gear and these kids, sometimes they hate it and there goes our money. 💸
As a new father all I was looking for was a functional and safe baby stroller that didn't break the bank. Also your dad using a red wagon as a stroller goes hard. 😎😎
Back home in Korea, there are "functional strollers" which are the sturdy high kind, and "play strollers" which are literally plastic mercedes that are pushed along the ground.
The whole stroller marketing thing is insane
such strong daddy energy. In a lovable wholesome parent kinda way.
Also this is much better family content as in;
"I have kids, I'm not showing them, instead; here's a video about strollers"
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1st time I bought a okish stroller, for my 2nd kid I used the 1st stroller I bought, when I got to the 3rd one I got a used stroller and gave it away when she grew out of it. I don't judge parents by the strollers, I couldn't care less about other parents, with 3 kids I don't have time for that stuff. 😂
This explains why I saw a stroller ad with a literal crash-safety rating 😅. I don't have kids so I was like... "oh boy, if its a crash with a car, I think that 1500 piece of junk will *still* fold".
We got a great deal on our stroller used, I was very happy to get one that was very easy to push over any terrain and worked well even when there weren't curb cuts. I think we paid around $160 CAD on a stroller that is $700 new, and then we sold it for around $100 a few years later. :)
Jogging Stroller - Mountain Buggy Urban Jungle
My kids are grown but I’d love to see more on how the industry has changed over the years. I had one of those (vintage) Silver Cross pramsband loved it - however, it wouldn’t fit in the car and I couldn’t get it in the house its was so big! we even have a shot of three of the neighborhood babies/toddlers sitting up all in a row like ducks in it for a photograph. It was awesome.
Yes, please to more parenting content. This was hilarious and relatable. I tried to thrift or borrow as much as could when I was collecting baby gear. I did end up going with a jogging stroller because I thought it would be so great for being outdoors and like going to parks. Which it totally is and I love it but also takes over my entire trunk of my car so kind of annoying too. . . Would also love to see your take on diapers (cloth vs. disposable, are the "compostable" diapers even remotely compostable.)
Thanks for sharing!
For 1 kid, we had a $10 umbrella stroller. For 2 kids we needed something bigger, and the cheapest in line option cost $300. We didn't want side by side so we could fit through doorways easier. But this thing was so long that I was nervous at intersections, the stroller stuck out so far ahead that we couldn't see very well. But at least we could clip the car seat directly into it. Not that we ever needed that ability...
We got our stroller secondhand from my husband’s colleague, and as much as I was tempted to buy these fancy ones, the one we had did the job just fine, and our baby grew out of it after a year. He’s not too fond of being in a stroller anymore
I can't shake off the feeling that stroller used to last a lot longer when I was a child than the new ones.
I got my sis stroller, she's two years older. And now my sis had to buy new stroller for my second nephew. He's two years younger than his brother
. The first stroller she bought broke just at right time when she rarely use it.
Fellow new parent here! We were bamboozled by the boujee baby scene. Bought the Nuna car seat and the veer stroller with fancy bassinet! He hated all of it.
I have 4 kids, all pretty close in age. I have a bassinet stroller and a double jogging stroller. I didn't purchase either of them, both were baby shower gifts. The double jogging stroller is a game changer in rural Arkansas. But y'all, if you're in the USA locate yourself a second hand baby shop, like Once Upon a Child and save like 80% on everything, including a stroller.
Yes, do the series. There is an incredible amount of stuff to talk about, which means a lot of *CONTENT*
Three people brought Uppababy Vistas to the welding shop I work at to fix cracks in the frame. This was maybe 7 years ago and they might have stronger frames now, but that left a bad impression on me.
I‘m sure this is a thing in my country as well, but most people I know will pass strollers on to the next parent in the family. „My“ stroller went to my cousin and so on. Babygear that isn’t needed constantly will be borrowed. Boxes of older cousins clothes at grandma’s to choose from. Saved a lot of money I believe 😅
I got the Uppababy Vista for my first in 2011 and it was incredible. Sure it cost a ton but it lived through the second as well with extra attachments to handle both.
Our identical twin girls are due in July. Your timing couldn’t be better
Congrats!
5 kids here, first pram/stroller we got was imported from germany! To Australia! It was a Mutsy and it was awesome. Except for the fact my wife couldn't fold the damn thing up. The most important function. Crazy looking back on it now. We soon learnt that there was only one stroller we needed. New Zealand made Mountain Buggy. They were bombproof, easy to collapse, lots of accessories, and reasonably priced.
Crazy, I am a parent of three and had no idea this was such a thing. I was just happy to have the stroller with the clip in car seat for easy transfer from car to stroller. I think I paid $350 for the stroller and carseat duel at the time. I'm glad I missed out on the hip stroller crowd.
So funny this is coming out now. Was worried you were going to crush my dreams for a second. We are on the search for our stroller and experiencing all this