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I know geese are Canadian, but I didn't expect Levi to be such a silly goose. /jk XD But for real, the title is a little misleading. Electric scooters in general are still super popular and a common sight, especially around college and university city areas. Even Lime is still everywhere in my area, but I concede that's more likely because I'm just south of LA.
E-scooters don't suck. People who use them suck. I had an e-scooter already when most people didn't even know they existed. Everything was awesome. But then more and more people started using them and absolutely disregard safety of themselves and others, and this just plain sucks. I blame people.
It's how I feel about e-bikes. They can be awesome and convenient but when any random idiot can hop on an e-bike and take off doing 20mph with basically no effort or skill required... It's a dangerous game to play. You need confidence and practice to understand the capabilities of both yourself and your vehicle; bike or scooter. Electric lets people with no skill or respect for how dangerous it can be to just do it anyways.
Oh, so true. I saw so many people riding the scooters so carelessly and dangerously: 3 people on 1 scooter; driving on great speed with no hands while being on cellphone; driving with their dogs on a leash, etc.. And all of this happens on slim pedestrian roads, sometimes with harsh terrain.
Same exact problem ebikes have in NYC. I had one for years, it was amazing. Now there's too many people using them and riding like crazy people. It's no longer worth the risk
@@xiChann exactly, unfortunately the laws caused by the abundance of rentals have made it a subpar idea to actually buy one any more, which sucks because as an idea electric scooters are Really good and would be convenient in many places (incl where i live, which is very hilly and annoying to walk), the laws in some places just make it a bit of a financial waste
All the scooter companies, all the big 'app' companies, most tech billionaires = "Early Lifers". Doesn't matter how good or bad or well developed your idea is, how much backing you have, the only ones who are allowed access and success are members of this "extended family".
"Why Everyone Hates E-Scooters rental companies*" I do hate 'rental' e-scooters, while I love and use my personal one way more than my car now. 200 miles were ridden on it since April.
That's how I feel about rentable ebikes. Had to use Lime bikes a couple of times while my bike was being repaired and they're so poorly maintained. Spray paint all over, the seat tearing apart, wires hanging out, etc. All that for $5-10 a ride.
Pretty much! The rental e-bike scooter system in America just sucks. But my personal e-bike has been great, the perfect alternative when I need something a little faster then walking for nearby errands. But can still haul home a load from the grocery store. I do think some areas are better built for it then others but I can easily do most of my local commuting on my e-trike now. Hardly ever start my truck.
I've worn the tires down on mine twice, popped two inner tubes, removed all the digicals out of it when it started acting erratically and replaced it with a simple two relay system, added LED underglows (mostly to be seen at night), an information panel, and I'm on my third set of batteries. I use it to get the last 1KM to work from a parking lot that doesn't cost an arm and a leg - this thing saved me a ton of money over the years. I also just got it for free lol.
I feel like this is the point that people who only watch the first 4 minutes and write a comment stating, "you don't know what you're talking about" tend to miss.
I bought one in 2021 and used it for going to and from work. It's the fastest way to get around in my city, but I only ride it on bike lanes or actual roads. It's still in warranty and I've only changed a tire once(got tubeless now so it doesn't even matter) but I'm working on getting a motorbike now so that was the gateway to motorized riding for me. That being said, I hate the ride-share ones. People ride them two-up and on the pavement, and they're dumped in the dumbest places.
Yeah, rideshare ones get thrown in rivers and misused and now that they are more affordable it makes less sense to have as many ride share stalls. From my experience in NYC most people own one so don't need to use the rental ones. I do really like the electric citi bikes though
My brother bought one but the maintenance he had to do within a year almost reach led the cost of the scooter itself. Then again, it was on the cheaper side ($200)
@@TheNinjapancake14 I got the xiao mi pro 2 or whatever order those words come in; It weighs like 35lbs but it's tough as nails. I even took it through the woods and had my dog follow. Not a comfortable experience though, because it has no suspension whatsoever so it's all knees
Total heel dragging on the government's part. Happy to profit from rental schemes but can't dream of legalising personal ownership. Total joke. Now in this grey area people with 1000w models ride around with relative impunity. Either cancel the rental schemes or legalise private ownership.
Same in Finland, we've now had 5 fatal accidents of which 4 during this last year. Latest was with three 12-14yo girls riding one bike at the same time and without helmets. Also half of the accidents happen at night and the driver was drunk in 59% of the accidents. This is becoming a problem, fueled by the lax laws (or the lack of them)...
This. They are used as a replacement to say"see? People can get around just fine without buses and trains. " It's why their were so many startups try to "bridge that last mile" when that last mile is over a highway, and you don't need a scooter but a fricken bike lane.
In my city, the folks here vote against public transit and the e scooters because they didn’t want homeless people getting here 🤧 but when I moved to the bigger city, we had both and it was bliss
@@TheNinjapancake14 ah yes, NIMBY's have migrated from housing to transportation now. i've also heard Nimby's are against solar installs too close to their property, even though it increases long term property values after a dip. next it's going to be "you know, i think the doctor's office and cafe is too close, so we will preemptively ban mixed use housing." wait, they already do. maybe they'll bulldoze public parks because the homeless sleep in them? anything but build denser price controlled housing, apparently actually solving problems is communist. definitely don't do anything to the golf courses though, they love getting out their nine iron. and they just adore that black fellow, what's his name, lion forest or something?
For me, I use it for when I am traveling. It's easier and cheaper for me to pay $2 to rent a bike or scooter and get somewhere than to pay Uber or pack one on my trip.
I feel like there are two main problems: 1. These are an absolute nuisance in cities that don't have good bike infrastructure, which is the majority of the US. These are fabulous in Scandinavia where there are bike lanes practically everywhere, but they suck here because no one over the age of like twelve should be riding a scooter or bike on a sidewalk, but riding in the road isn't super safe. They also make exponentially more sense combined with good public transportation infrastructure. These are perfect to cut down a fifteen minute walk from your apartment to the train into the city center. They work amazingly as "last mile delivery," but not so much "whole commute." 2. In general, the US is really bad about sharing things. People don't take good care of things that they don't own. I tend to roll my eyes at most "sharing economy" roll outs How long is it going to be before half the scooters are thrown in the river, or free library boxes are just filled with trash people are too lazy to carry around until they can find an appropriate receptacle? Far too many Americans only behave when they're afraid they may have to face consequences for their actions, rather than doing the right thing out of respect for everyone else. We need a major value shift before we can really have shared resources here.
@@effu9375 It's a small, but noticeable and growing % of people. Most people are considerate and decent. The lockdowns really fried people's brains and it's gotten much worse since then.
In Scandinavia, you also have a higher percentage of population cycling regularly. In my multimillion city 60% of car rides are for distances shorter than 1km, and the vast majority has never ridden a bike as an adult.
Re no1. Depends where u live. I'm city centre. I can use my scooter to get to any destination within my city. And I use it 100% for all my work commutes (4.2 miles). That used to be an hours walk for me. Edit: there is no public transport early enough on sundays, so without the scooter, I used to have no choice but to walk, no matter the weather (lone worker, so a ride shre is out of the question too).
I think this video is a little misguided -it may be relevant to specifically dockless rental scooters from companies like Bird or Lime, but not at all applicable for all electric scooters. In fact, they have become a widely popular form of personal transportation especially in cities. I can't go a day without seeing a multitude of people riding them.
Agree. I see people all around with them. Being sold at Best Buy, Target. And several variations, of the original stand up, to one that has a seat as a mini scooter bike.
@@luxdalet the seated ones have been increasingly popular in my area especially with people 55+. It makes me so happy that they get to still have mobility options across the city as they age without having to deal with people getting upset with them for not driving fast enough in a car
Think it speaks more to LA's disrespect towards shared infrastructure. They are huge in Florida, people love the e-bike and e-scooter rental stations provided by the city and third party companies.
Yeah I rode them a bunch in Krakow back in 2021, when I visited, and they already had designated parking zones, and even zones where you can't park them, like the Old Town. So I had to park just outside of the Old Town when I went there.
@@TheSmieskoI can't agree with you when it comes to my experience in bigger German cities because I think it's still the same target group and the same times like in the middle of the night when you come from the party and the public transportation is just one bus or one tram per hour it's very convenient to have a rental E scooter to drive home or to the next station
@@Start.a.curvolution that is why, we have a conversation. :) over here Krakow (Poland in general) public transportation is solid also during the night and Uber/Bolt is the same price as renting one scooter. So when you are two, it is better option. However, I have to admit that it's fun to ride, but here you cannot be under influence.
I can clarify one bit of that. Holland is a region in the Netherlands. It's not a synonym. Calling the Netherlands Holland is like calling Canada Ontario.
Yeah that’s what he means they live in holland (like how someone can live in the south) but the country is the Netherlands (like how the south us in the US)
@@theshadowking3198 then why was he so confused? Like, he lives in BC, but the country's Canada, and he speaks English. The only reason people get mixed up on that one is they think Holland is synonymous with the Netherlands.
I once asked a colleague of mine, who was from the Netherlands, if it does matter and what he prefers and he said that Holland and Netherlands is the same and that he prefers Holland
Here in the south of France they are everywhere. More importantly they are privately owned. As you said at the end of the video, they are replacing bicycles. I, as a cyclist, prefer to deal with scooters rather than cars, especially suvs, Not everything is a tech start-up, they are a very good alternative to cars in tightly-packed cities.
To start off...I have enjoyed these videos since the days of the lofted bedroom and the green couch, but I think @FutureProof that you messed up with this video, and have not realized the US-Canada-centric bias of it. First, and my main problem: this is NOT a video about e-scooters, this is a video about dockless E-scooter rental companies. That is a HUGE difference there. Also, saying "everybody hates e-scooters is simply not true. In my city, notorious for its terrible public transportation, private e-scooters and e-bikes have become extremely popular, especially for commuters, and especially for women who could not afford, or preferred to not buy a car. Women like these modes of transportation because it sure beats getting into a crowded, unsafe bus where there is a high chance of getting groped, harrassed or robbed. So please, review this video and at the very least clarify that this is a video focusing on North American cities about e-scooter rental companies.
Another Chicago person here. I use public transit, bike, scooter, have a car, and I run, so I'm in these streets in every form, though I drive rarely. Like most things, people being inconsiderate is the problem. First, like the rental bikes, people who don't ride well or often tend to be problems for everyone on the road. They don't belong on sidewalks but fools keep riding them there, and they are so often left in places that obstruct the mobility of others, particularly strollers or mobility devices (wheelchairs) it's flat out disgusting. I'm constantly moving them the six inches they could have pushed them out of the way of sidewalks and curb cuts. Cyclists are extremely inconsiderate - I've been shoved aside and sideswiped too many times by cyclists and for a group that constantly screeches that cars can wait the few seconds it's going to slow them down for a bike, that sentiment isn't reciprocated for scooters (or pedestrians). They do not enjoy sharing the road or bike lanes with scooters. Just like with bikes, too many scooters fail to stop or god forbid, walk their apparatus and think they have the right to move unimpeded because they are inconvienced. There are a number of ways to improve the safety, and should be true for bikes as well: lights and reflectors, mandatory helmets, signal lights and better use of bells/horns, and rear view mirrors and license plates for accountability for the riders. I like the idea of docks, but that reduces their efficiency, so stricter drop-off regulations. If you live in a place where scooters are useful, there are plenty of places to do so responsibly. Also, more aggressive punishments/fines, especially for repeat offenders and dangerous activity like more than one rider, dangerous riding, and generally being a hazard. I love riding the scooters, and with the busses being constantly late and a mess and still too much Covid-19, and having some mobility issues myself this is a great alternative to driving or using a ride share, but everytime I see one of "us" being reckless and destructive, I'm angered that they are risking my opportunity for mobility freedom by risking the availability of them and encouraging negative and hostile attitudes by other traffic on the road, (including pedestrians) and the neighborhoods overall. We can absolutely do better and still offer these as practical options.
I don't mind them until staffers place them in the worst spots, like the only accessible sidewalk for our wheelchair and walker users who would otherwise have to go off into the LITERAL ROAD.
@@TheNinjapancake14 I’m not strong enough to reach down and pick them up so they’ve really caused me major problems, luckily people usually move them for me.
@@TheNinjapancake14 I like that idea but I also don't understand why they get left abandoned for so long. I've seen some that sit for well over a week off to the side of a road or trail. It's like there's no incentive to round up all the one scattered about and return them to a centralized location in a timely manner.
I empathize; that must be really rough. Lime in Seattle now requires photo proof that you have parked them correctly. The app rejected me recently for what I thought was a good parking job, but I had to move it. It seems like they need to tighten up the logic used to determine whether the device is blocking the sidewalk or not, but it seems like it’s in the process of improving. I sprained an ankle a few weeks ago and while I didn’t need a wheelchair it was great to be able to get on a Lime scooter with crutches in hand and still get around Seattle.
In Finland, the scooter companies gather the profits and the public healthcare is left to treat the numerous accident victims for free. Now the lawmakers are searching the ways to require a mandatory traffic insurance for someone to pay for the injuries and even deaths that the scooters cause.
By that logic, people should have to have insurance for skateboards, skates, and bicycles, especially since these can end up going just as fast, if not faster as those 15mph scooters
Finnish people pay the public healthcare fron the taxes so it is not 'free'. And you often have to pay for visiting doctor or getting treatment from hospital. The prices are affordable to most people but definitely not 'free' in the most cases. Source: I am from Finland and as an unemployed person I have struggled to pay some health care bills.
Two simple solutions to this. 1) make helmets compulsory. 2) install breathalysers on the scooter. If the alcohol level is too high, the scooter won't start. This won't prevent every incident, true but 40% of the injuries are head injuries and 31% of scooter users involved in a collision were intoxicated. Obviously, this is an over simplification, but why look for ways to find someone else to pay for the use of the health service when you could reduce the number of people using the health service, then look for ways to charge for the costs.
@@InfernosReaper That's why it's so difficult to find a solution. They wouldn't want to set a mandatory vehicle insurance for example electric bicycles.
As a pedestrian, the biggest problem is with the users. They leave them across sidewalks and don't obey any rules of the road or sidewalk. If they make a comeback, they need to drop off points like with the bikes so they don't just end up anywhere.
The major issue is people driving on sidewalks. I have had to jump away so many times for a stupid kid on one of these scooters. It's dangerous. And these kids more than often end up under a car with their crazy little death machine (like hospitals are begging the government to ban these things under 18). Also as a person who has a normal scooter without a motor: SCOOTERS ARE NOT MEANT FOR THESE SPEEDS. Anyone who has used an old skool scooter knows how dangerous a scooter is when it's going fast. One time I decided to go down a massive hill and something of this shape is not designed for balance and speed, nor for slamming the breaks. One time I feel with my scooter because I hit a bump in the road while going pretty fast and I was launched forward despite going like 20 km/h at most.
@@sleepymonsteraddict Yes, to all of that. They cannot be a free for all like they were before. There have to be safety rules in place. I remember reading a news story about a drunk person dying on one because they ran into a wall. Even adults need help using them properly.
Yes, they're very popular in the UK too and it's growing. I'm not sure which countries this guy is talking about when he says people threw them in rivers and didn't like them.
It's true, everything in the US is built for cars. I was impressed when I traveled to Spain and then Argentina by the number of bikes and scooters being used, but they had their own lane. Riding those here in California usually means sharing the road with cars.
Well, China had even worse problems. But, I agree that we have a bad town "planning" because we don't do it well but the amount that we do thwarts the traditional free market solutions. I grew up in street car neighborhood that was mostly unplanned, and it had a nice mixture of houses, apartments, small shops and grocery stores within walkable distances. Most kids walked to school. The block I lived in was a chaotic mess since when the neighborhood was originally built in the 1920s each house was built by a different builder, and had been remodeled in various ways. But it provided small houses for that widow living by herself, as well as large house for the Olivers, who being Catholic had something like seven kids! Narrow streets on a grid that somewhat slowed down traffic but still allowed you to get where you want even if a street was blocked, but got by without having dedicated bike lanes.
i'm a college student at a school that's basically in the middle of nowhere. People have had scooters for as long as I have been here, but this semester it was so jarring when the companies dropped their scooters here (especially against a backgrop of corn fields and horse barns). They litter the streets of campus and people ride them on sidewalks, on the roads, bring them to class to charge them... it's a nightmare! I can't walk anywhere without being narrowly missed by some asshat on a scooter. I ride a motorcycle and despite motorcycles' reputation, I would argue that these scooters are MORE dangerous. Full riding gear + a federally regulated helmet on a vehicle that makes enough noise and has enough size that cars on the road can see you, vs. no safety gear whatsoever on a silent, super skinny stick that can get wiped out by a pebble in the road.
From 2017 to 2022, e-scooters were responsible for an estimated 169,300 emergency department visits, which is 46.92% of all micromobility device-related injuries.
Well that's alarming. And not especially surprising. I'd be curious about the breakdown re: type of accident and type of injury. The first time I rode one I hurt myself *walking* beside the scooter because I accidentally bumped the throttle and it lurched forward, dragging me for a second. I literally wasn't even on it 😂.
@@jaye8103 I am more concerned for the people walking on the streets around them, like the woman getting off the bus in the video. In KC I saw some asshat on one of those plow over a woman pushing a stroller.
@@jimstaszko1675 Yeah, but the issue isn't the device, but the user. Put'em on a skateboard, on a bike, or in skates and they'd still be menace to everyone else. It's almost as if there needs to be some kind of accountability for people recklessly endangering others or something
In my city they are very popular. Our bus line has only 1 or 2 busses running at a time. It takes almost 2 hours to go anywhere on public transit when a car does the same trip in 15 to 20 min. Bird scooters are everywhere and people seem respectful when using them.... no large piles, they are placed out of the way, and usually stood upright...but that might the midwest nice and friendly Wisconsinite persona I know many people who personally own an e scooter or an e bike. Cause they cant afford a car but live in a large expansive area. It's nice to have options like you said.
I love the way these scooters are abandoned in the middle of sidewalks, making it more difficult for blind/low vision people, wheelchair users, etc. to get around! (This was obviously sarcasm).
I've seen several comments like this about abandoned scooters. Kind of blows my mind that people would do that. Here in Philly an abandoned scooter would be either destroyed on the spot or "appropriated".
This a is super confusing video. As many people state personal scooters are wildly popular in Europe and depending on where you live in The States escooters are still wildly popular and far from dead. I see them used more now than ever in the pnw.
And reviled by those who don't ride them. Why do you think they keep throwing them in the bay? They're practically litter all over the sidewalks and the people who ride them are as big a menace as bicycles. They should be banned.
Sounds like you just hate all non cars, @@M167A1?They are the perfect last mile solution in busy downtowns and are incredibly commonly used by business professionals working in large city spaces. They would be less of a nuisance to cars if we had roads built in ways that encourages lower emissions forms of transportation and kept people using last mile transportation or walking safer near and on roads.
In my area I see people on these quite often. The issue is more the idiots who ride them recklessly than the machines themselves. These micromobility devices are great for easing traffic and offering a better and cheaper way to get around
@@nancyokI despise them fervently and yet I only take the subway, bus or walk to my destinations. I live in a large European city and other than the young and the stupid, these public e-scooters are heavily disliked by the majority of people. They are dangerous and the people using them feel even more entitled than bike users, who think the whole street and all the sidewalks are their true birthright. 🙄
I have not forgotten these things. People dumped them on the sidewalk, and being a paraplegic I would have to backtrack or drop off of the curb into traffic and push my wheelchair down the road. I started carrying a 32 ounce ballpeen hammer with me just for vengeance before pushing in traffic.
In my town the e-scooters are all individually owned but they still do lay around the sidewalks, weave through traffic and there is no real consensus on how they should be used. One thing is that helmets are mandatory just as they are on bicycles, skateboards and kick scooters and if the police see someone once without a helmet, they are given a warning but consecutive occurrences will have the item taken to the station and held for a duration of time.
I use e-scoter, which i own, every day to go to work or shop. There are plenty of other e-scoter riders all over the city where i live. Many combine e-scooter with public transport as a means of transportation. There are now bycicle station/ scooter stations where you can service it. I check the tire pressure once a year because it is that reliable and put together. It is easy to carry mine, it is only 12 kg and i ride it on bicycle lines. There are regulations, like top speed for them and when you buy it the ones for transportation are labled road legal.
This channel is so funny sometimes as someone who isnt American ,cause most of the thing yall make videos about "not being a thing or not popular" is very much still a thing outside of the us. Ref. this video, zyn (we call them snuns here in Norway), shopping malls etc.
Here before the click bait title changes I have myself two e-scooters. One is for getting to and from work, the other is for going fast. They’re fun and way better than wasting money on a car, parking, insurance, maintenance when I’m within two miles of work, gym, and two grocery stores. Imagine if cities across the country laid down separate, dedicated, and protected bike lanes
@@BatCaveOz i did until walking up and down 200-300m of steep hill 2, sometimes 3 times a day (especially in our hot and humid summers) started doing a number on my knees. Overall poor take try again next time
As another owner of 2 escooters, I sure hope the one you use for "going fast" is only used outside of high traffic areas (pedestrian or other vehicles). E-scooters are great fun but can be horrifically dangerous to yourself and others at speed, and you really need to be just as defensive as you would in a car
i like that people were saying "oh they're just parked everywhere!" failing to also realise that cars are also parked up and down every single street and take up infinitely more space
So I’m a Middle Age Dad and my daughter’s boyfriend has one and honestly, I’ve considered getting one myself now. It’s between that and an EBike. For context, I’m a recent convert to EV’s (we just bought 2 this year that we love), our area is not quite walkable for more than a stroll, and my daughter turns 16 this year (meaning I’m looking for ways to avoid buying additional vehicles for “Me” since I have a ICE work vehicle, but spend most of my time locally 5 miles from home).
In Belgium, they are regulated and there are parking areas in Brussels. I really liked the practicality! I used it this summer during an internship in a hospital, but there were many accidents, broken bones and brain injuries caused by no helmets and high speed in the ER.
Rather US-centric. In Bristol UK they're quite popular and seem to fulfil a role for some people - the police seem to turn a blind eye to the privately-owned ones that are illegal.. As a 64 year old cyclist I'm hyper-aware of bad behaviour around me - especially where motors are involved and they have stiff competition for selfish / dangerous idiocy.
Fun facts for you, to get rid of your confusion: Holland is a province (technically 2) of The Netherlands, and Dutch is a Proto-Germanic word related to "Deutsch" meaning "of the people" Since both Dutch and German are very closely related languages, that's what the English speakers called the language from The Netherlands. In Dutch, the word for Dutch is "Nederlands" which means "from the Netherlands" 😉
technically from the netherlands is nederlandse were as with out the e its just the word for the language as for the rest its accurate so no complaints
@@RazKino ah yes forgot about that one still my point still stands that nederlandse is the meaning from the netherlands like dat is een nederlandse man
I live in Tromsø and I've smashed two of them. I use a wheelchair, and sometimes people park the scooter across the full width of the footway, such that I cannot get around it. Of course I cannot step over it. So when that happens I lift it overhead and slam it into the roadway, so I can get past. I'll do it again if I have to.
Atlanta USA checking in - we love em. Midtown has them everywhere and sidewalks are defacto legal (they are 4x larger than necessary so splitting is fine)
This video confuses me... It seems like you're talking about bluebike-esk scooter stations but you don't mention you're talking about the problems stations cause, you're framing it as the problem scooters cause. In MA it seems like there are more people using these than bicycles at this point, but its their personal scooter that they care for.
The problem with scooters (and bikes) is that users have the same blatant disregard for traffic law and parking regulations that drivers do. Same people, different mode.
@@estuardo2985 What's your point? If a cyclist or scooter rider cause a crash (not accident), they can be held liable for damages. Since the 20 lb bike or the 15 lb scooter won't cause that much damage, insurance really isn't necessary. Drivers (not cars) need insurance because they can cause $thousands in damage and injury in just a minor crash. Also, Lyft, Lime, and the various other scooter companies have insurance. This is an insincere oft-repeated argument that drivers don't think it's fair that vehicles less than 1% of their GVW are treated differently. Insurance, gas tax, and license/registration fees, we've heard it all before.
@@keithmcmanus2406 My comment was not disagreeing with your OP. But your response to mine shows you aren't in the real world. Good luck colleting on a individual. Almost no lawyer will take that on. And it isn't just the scooter it is the nearly 100-200lb occupant (think deer hit). That isn't even including if some person runs in front of you. And again it shows the complete ignorance. A dent can cause thousands of dollars. I am an expert. I have worked in a body shop and as an auto adjuster.
The lime bikes and scooters worked out really well in Rochester Minnesota. As a small hospital based city, they are used by everyone to get around until winter buried them in snow…
That title might be more accurate, but it's also incredibly dry. A lot more people will click on the video as titled than with the title you propose. It sucks that they have to be concerned about that, but that's the way things are right now.
Been subscribed for awhile! I liked this channel at first but I can't help but roll my eyes at every video because of how out of touch they can be. Maybe I'm not the specific demographic for them because I'm not a millennial? Idk, do millennials feel like this channel is out of touch too?
This video truly feels like he started seeing them less in his city and suddenly he thinks no one is using scooters anymore but genuinely they seem like they are far more popular than they ever have been. It's just such an out of touch take.
I am 27, and I agree. In the past his videos were more in depth, and for past 6 months or so I feel like the content got dumber. I mean he mentioned his writter is now a gen z. I am honestly debating to unsubscribe because of how law quality his channel has become.
I worked at a bike shop up until recently. We had tons of people bring in their e-scooters to see if we could repair them. Usually just had a flat tire. Except we had to start charging up to $100 for a tube change because these things were never meant to be repaired. A job that takes 5 minutes on a bike (assuming it’s not a cursed e-bike, don’t get me started) usually turned into a couple of hours of finding manuals, disassembling half the scooter, and then finally putting it back together just so a kid could run over another thorn the next day
I didn't know it was that complicated to repair the air-filled tires. I would think the e-scooter manufactures would have made the scooter tires as easy to take off as bike tires.
Im questioning my decision subscribing to you. Way off-base here. Everyone rides e-scooters. Just while typing this, in my office in Italy, Ive seen at least 5 or 6 teenagers flying by on scooters. I think you need to get out more.
I am 27, and I agree. In the past his videos were more in depth, and for past 6 months or so I feel like the content got dumber. I mean he mentioned his writter is now a gen z. I am honestly debating to unsubscribe because of how law quality his channel has become. Old videos are good.
I live in a small town in the US, and thankfully rarely see these. So depends on where you live. I'm not lazy and I walk. I and others should not fear getting hit by one of these on the sidewalk. It is basically a vehicle that does not belong on the sidewalk along with e-bikes do not belong on sidewalks either.
In Mexico City most of the transport is also integrated: bike, subway, some types of buses, trams, and even cable cars are under the same card. And the bike subscription is $28 for a full year, only limited in 45-min rides.
My main problem with e-scooters is...the riders, and how local authorities are unable (or unwilling) to do anything about it. People are riding drunk, people are riding two persons at a time, people don't ever signal when approaching you from behind, kids are not even supposed to rent them, but they do it anyway, etc. Delivery couriers are the worst of them all, because they're riding their e-bikes, which are literally smaller motorcycles, but they never use roads meant for cars, just walkways. It's Moscow, Russia. Probably we're just not civilized enough for that stuff? I don't know. I do realize that scooter or bike can't be blamed for human's behavior, but I really-really hate those e-riders.
They were all over Marina (CA) for a while, especially on the CSU campus where I worked. People would leave them in front of stairs and in driveways. I hated those things. Then the pandemic hit. And I moved. Haven't seen one in about 4 years now and that makes me happy.
They're popular in new york. I see them all the time in Bronx and Manhattan. The only problem I have with them is when they are riding on the sidewalk behind you. I know for a fact most scooters come equipped with a bell or horn but these riders don't use them. I only know they're behind me because I hear their motor approaching, sometimes at the last minute and I nearly jump when they pass me by. It's really annoying. It wouldn't be bad if they just tried to respect the pedestrians and use their safety functions or say "coming through" or something. 🙄
I remember when these things first hit the masses. I worked for a head and neck surgeon at the time and the amount of t of patients coming in with broken faces, cracked skulls, broken teeth, noses, necks etc was huge. I still haven’t ridden one. I agree they are wonderful for city transport. I get it
Yeah, we had a huge influx of scooters in my city (US pnw) for a couple years, the thing was they were used by people who apparently just threw them to the ground when they were done and block sidewalks with them. Sidewalks which need to be accessible for very obvious reasons. Then the companies stopped picking them up to recharge at night so basically there’d be dumping corners for the scooters and nobody would do anything about it. Thus, vigilantes stealing them and throwing them into lakes and rivers. And then off bypasses onto the freeway onto into oncoming traffic. At that point the cities around here finally enacted regulations and suddenly they were all gone. Now you only see them if they’re privately owned.
Do you guys remember Limewire? I remember tying up my parents' phone line all night downloading hundreds of songs on our 28.8 kbps connection. Now limes are synonymous with annoying scooters instead, but I'd rather bring back Limewire!
Waiting several hours to download a single song which made you an instant petty criminal for owning. Ah, college days. I prefer streaming services. Especially the free ones.
@@mylesgray3470 You will own nothing and be happy...with ads...that play loudly...when you're trying to fall asleep to a podcast...unless you pay the monthly ransom. 😏
Thanks for the video Levi! I got into the e-scooter thing before the rentals came around. I needed to bridge the distance from my house to the train, and from the train to work. I tried multiple things including analog bicycles and a Onehweel. Nothing was better than a good e-scooter that had the weight, portability and range. I think there is a very strong personal e-scooter market because of the fundamental need in most urban areas for micro-mobility options. E-scooters are everywhere in San Francisco. San Francisco also increased its bicycle infrastructure significantly since Covid-19. There will always be a market for micromobility in urban environments.
Is there dedicated Bike Lane? Then you're going to get people riding on the side walk, because a of car brains. A guy was killed not 100 yards from my front door because a driver hit and run him while he was doing the right thing and riding in the street.
I was walking my dog on the sidewalk and someone came zooming down the sidewalk on a scooter while texting. They would have run my dog over if I hadn't yoinked her out of the way at the very last second. That's why it's been my life's mission to get these scooters off the roads. And sidewalks.
Agreed, but for a different reason. I’m a paraplegic, these things get dumped on the sidewalk and then I have to get off of the sidewalk and push a wheelchair out in traffic.
We are allegedly enemies then. If more cities had biking lanes and if these companies had better regulations for their rides, all pedestrians would be safe
Yeah, they are as bad as e-bikes. People go 35km/h on the sidewalk even when they are 80yo and their reaction time has been down the drain for a while. At least 80yos in a car don't drive as much where people walk.
Okay, so hear me out. At what point is something littering? Like, if there is a beer can on the ground, that's littering. A box? Littering. If someone just drops a microwave on the ground and walks away, is that littering? You see where this is going. If someone leaves a scooter on my property, is that littering? If so, I should have the legal right to toss it in the trash.
Well, technically if they leave it on your lawn, I suppose so. But if they leave it on a city sidewalk or street, it would probably be the same rules as cars - tow away the car if its blocking. Realistically, its just as easy to move it to the sidewalk if thats an option. If a neighborhood kid leaves his bicycle on my lawn, I usually just leave it be, with the option to put it closer to the sidewalk, but I wouldn't ever throw it in the trash. Even if my neighbor takes my designated parking spot, I wouldn't call the tow to come get it. In ten years you never know, maybe they will tow a car in a row of designated scooter spots...
The "Boris Bikes" in London have been around for years and work in a similar way to your Citibike example. They have many of the same advantages 1) They have to be docked so they're not lying around all over the place. Not only is this tidier, but it means you know where to find one. 2) The fact they're in a dock means they're charging when they're not in use 3) The sponsorship keeps the price low And also as a nice touch, if you attempt to return it to a dock but there are no spaces left, you can tap the app and it gives you some extra free time to take it to another one - you're not punished financially just because your destination is unusually busy,
I lived in downtown Edmonton during that scooter nonsense. We had to sell our condo at a loss because the damned scooters everywhere were damaging property and brought down housing prices. I was run into by one three times and our car was severely damaged by one while parked. I have nothing but contempt for the damned things!!
All you had to was wait. You knew a band was coming especially if it has to deal with DOT (usa) which are federal agencies. Again idk why you were in such a rush. Home ownership is long term play not just leave after something is bad in 1yr
From what I've seen the problem isn't the scooters, it's the AHs that pilot 'em recklessly and without regard for others. IMO. Thanks as always and regards.
The only thing you need to know is: - The place/country: The Netherlands - The nationality/language: Dutch Holland is just in the name of two provinces. And it's only used to represent the whole country when cheering on Dutch athletes, because ''Hup Holland Hup'' is very catchy and screamable. 😄
I purchased a really nice light weight carbon fiber escooter and used it to get me the last few miles from the bus stop to my work. I had a car turn directly in front of me without any signals. I was hospitalized for 18 days and still can't walk going on 4 months. One of my legs was destroyed and required multiple surgeries to put back together.
this guy hasn't visited the north east. if there's a bike rack, there's an escooter on it. i bought one for 140$ that can go 15 miles on a charge at 20mph. i bought it to get around for work but now i use it mostly for fun.
i think e-scooters are a good idea but they aren't always compatible with existing infrastructure. renting them out for cheap just gives people a carefree, careless attitude about riding them.
In NYC, Lime/Uber scooters just appeared one night scattered everywhere. Mind you, this was June of this year! There are no designated drop-off areas, they're just everywhere. I've already almost been run over on the sidewalk taking my kid to school. Speeding scooters on NYC streets and sidewalks, ridden by teenagers with no helmets (they love them) is a recipe for disaster.
This video is very narrow-sighted. The scooters everywhere all over the ground is, in my experience, an America-centric problem. I'm from DC and just spent 6 weeks there. I live in Seoul and the experiences with micro-mobility or last mile transit couldn't be more different. Lime was one of the last and is, in my opinion, one of the worse electric scooter options available in Korea (Beam is my favorite). Even when they were launched, people didn't try to do ridiculous things or just leave them strewn everywhere (you do need a driver's license to ride them though). While there isn't the exact integrated public bike system like in the Netherlands, I pay around 20 usd for 6 months of unlimited 2 hour rides on them. I see scooters and bikes being used everywhere, and they never went away. In fact, a lot of people used them instead of public transit during covid to avoid people. DC also has some great things going. I paid 25 usd for a month of the shared bikes, and that includes electric bikes at 0.10/min. That's a fantastic price, and I saw a lot of people using them. I don't think it's a matter of they went away and came back, more of a case of they over-expanded and had to reevaluate their strategy to become profitable post venture capital.
I was going to come here and say that i’ve seen more scooters than ever in my area. And i see many people ride their own scooters too, so this video is factly very false. But the rest of the comment section beat me to it. There needs to be further regulations and better safety for these e scooters. But they are not going away anytime soon if you look around you.
As someone living in a rural, mountainous area with inclines frequently going to 10% and more, I always chuckle at people telling me all about the benefits of using a bike as your main means of transportation... ;)
I'd say they replaced trips by bicycle or public transportation, at least in the EU. Plus people have their own scooter, scooter renting is not a thing, except for tourists
Yes! When I was in college 2019-2023 these scooters were super popular for students who were running late for class. If the scooters weren't there they wouldn't drive, they would've walked or not gone to class.
@@mylesgray3470 when schools plan you in 12 hours a day when assignments combined and a job with it. anything that makes you go to somewhere faster means more free time
If you use them with public transit, then they do replace cars well. Otherwise, the battery technology only gets better so their range and speed and charging times are always improving. Some of these scooters have a basket in the first and and the second half can be expanded so you can stand normally and you can also add a seat. So this scooter I just described can also be good for commuting and shopping.
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Ya, that is in Europe, different culture. Not here.
I know geese are Canadian, but I didn't expect Levi to be such a silly goose. /jk XD
But for real, the title is a little misleading. Electric scooters in general are still super popular and a common sight, especially around college and university city areas. Even Lime is still everywhere in my area, but I concede that's more likely because I'm just south of LA.
The problem is that RUclips is already always showing me stuff from the right anyways
Dus jij spreekt Nederlands?
De max ik spreek ook een soort Nederlands: Vlaams want ik ben Belg en woon in Vlaanderen wij spreken Vlaams groetjes
E-scooters don't suck. People who use them suck. I had an e-scooter already when most people didn't even know they existed. Everything was awesome. But then more and more people started using them and absolutely disregard safety of themselves and others, and this just plain sucks. I blame people.
It's how I feel about e-bikes. They can be awesome and convenient but when any random idiot can hop on an e-bike and take off doing 20mph with basically no effort or skill required... It's a dangerous game to play. You need confidence and practice to understand the capabilities of both yourself and your vehicle; bike or scooter. Electric lets people with no skill or respect for how dangerous it can be to just do it anyways.
Oh, so true. I saw so many people riding the scooters so carelessly and dangerously: 3 people on 1 scooter; driving on great speed with no hands while being on cellphone; driving with their dogs on a leash, etc.. And all of this happens on slim pedestrian roads, sometimes with harsh terrain.
Same exact problem ebikes have in NYC. I had one for years, it was amazing. Now there's too many people using them and riding like crazy people. It's no longer worth the risk
So just like bicycle drivers then.
@@Alverant nope, worse. E bikes go faster
This video would be better titled "Why people don't like Bird or Lime Scooters".
It wouldn't get as many clicks though
That's my exact thought too!
Yea, its the rented ones that have been annoying and left to degrade
we hate ALL of them
@@xiChann exactly, unfortunately the laws caused by the abundance of rentals have made it a subpar idea to actually buy one any more, which sucks because as an idea electric scooters are Really good and would be convenient in many places (incl where i live, which is very hilly and annoying to walk), the laws in some places just make it a bit of a financial waste
$0.43/minute is way too expensive for what it is. That’s almost as expensive as taking an Uber..
All the scooter companies, all the big 'app' companies, most tech billionaires = "Early Lifers". Doesn't matter how good or bad or well developed your idea is, how much backing you have, the only ones who are allowed access and success are members of this "extended family".
Yeah, I use public transport rather than any rental scooter/bike/whatever. Where I live, ticket for public transport costs about a $1/30min.
"Why Everyone Hates E-Scooters rental companies*" I do hate 'rental' e-scooters, while I love and use my personal one way more than my car now. 200 miles were ridden on it since April.
That's how I feel about rentable ebikes. Had to use Lime bikes a couple of times while my bike was being repaired and they're so poorly maintained. Spray paint all over, the seat tearing apart, wires hanging out, etc. All that for $5-10 a ride.
Pretty much! The rental e-bike scooter system in America just sucks. But my personal e-bike has been great, the perfect alternative when I need something a little faster then walking for nearby errands. But can still haul home a load from the grocery store.
I do think some areas are better built for it then others but I can easily do most of my local commuting on my e-trike now. Hardly ever start my truck.
Took one rental round trip.
So fun.
But I’m only interested in getting my own.
Glad you are happy with your purchase!
I've worn the tires down on mine twice, popped two inner tubes, removed all the digicals out of it when it started acting erratically and replaced it with a simple two relay system, added LED underglows (mostly to be seen at night), an information panel, and I'm on my third set of batteries. I use it to get the last 1KM to work from a parking lot that doesn't cost an arm and a leg - this thing saved me a ton of money over the years.
I also just got it for free lol.
The hell you're talking about. They're used all the time in Europe. In some countries these rental scooters even got license plates now.
Used all the time in the DC area. So not sure what they are talking about
Video is 2 minutes old. Try watching it lmao. You wild.
@@naajilyons2872Transcripts exist.
where in Europe? only people using it are doing delivery. In Rome and Milan I see them sparingly
Well, he isn't talking about Europe
The biggest problem with E scooters (at least in Turkey), people rent them, drive like maniacs and park them at most inappropriate places
that's the problem with them everywhere.
Yep. I hate the pile of scooters at the corners.
I feel like this is the point that people who only watch the first 4 minutes and write a comment stating, "you don't know what you're talking about" tend to miss.
they should be charged for every minute until they are parked at some designated location
Same here in Australia.
I bought one in 2021 and used it for going to and from work. It's the fastest way to get around in my city, but I only ride it on bike lanes or actual roads. It's still in warranty and I've only changed a tire once(got tubeless now so it doesn't even matter) but I'm working on getting a motorbike now so that was the gateway to motorized riding for me. That being said, I hate the ride-share ones. People ride them two-up and on the pavement, and they're dumped in the dumbest places.
Yeah, rideshare ones get thrown in rivers and misused and now that they are more affordable it makes less sense to have as many ride share stalls. From my experience in NYC most people own one so don't need to use the rental ones. I do really like the electric citi bikes though
My brother bought one but the maintenance he had to do within a year almost reach led the cost of the scooter itself. Then again, it was on the cheaper side ($200)
@@TheNinjapancake14 I got the xiao mi pro 2 or whatever order those words come in; It weighs like 35lbs but it's tough as nails. I even took it through the woods and had my dog follow. Not a comfortable experience though, because it has no suspension whatsoever so it's all knees
In the UK they are still popular. Only problem is that legislation hasn’t caught up and reckless speed and lack of safety has made them a real problem
Total heel dragging on the government's part. Happy to profit from rental schemes but can't dream of legalising personal ownership.
Total joke. Now in this grey area people with 1000w models ride around with relative impunity.
Either cancel the rental schemes or legalise private ownership.
I live in a “city” in Scotland where all electric scooters (privately owned as well) are banned
@@wimctaanything with more than a dozen people is a city, especially in Scotland. Good for your city.
Same in Finland, we've now had 5 fatal accidents of which 4 during this last year. Latest was with three 12-14yo girls riding one bike at the same time and without helmets.
Also half of the accidents happen at night and the driver was drunk in 59% of the accidents. This is becoming a problem, fueled by the lax laws (or the lack of them)...
@@alaric_ if being drunk on vehicles why dont we make that illegal? oh wait we already do that
Popular also in the US rust belt where local public transit is almost nonexistent
This. They are used as a replacement to say"see? People can get around just fine without buses and trains. " It's why their were so many startups try to "bridge that last mile" when that last mile is over a highway, and you don't need a scooter but a fricken bike lane.
Retweet - as a midwest resident, the scooters are one of my wife and I's favorite, guaranteed way around any town we visit on vacation
In my city, the folks here vote against public transit and the e scooters because they didn’t want homeless people getting here 🤧 but when I moved to the bigger city, we had both and it was bliss
@@TheNinjapancake14 ah yes, NIMBY's have migrated from housing to transportation now. i've also heard Nimby's are against solar installs too close to their property, even though it increases long term property values after a dip. next it's going to be "you know, i think the doctor's office and cafe is too close, so we will preemptively ban mixed use housing."
wait, they already do. maybe they'll bulldoze public parks because the homeless sleep in them? anything but build denser price controlled housing, apparently actually solving problems is communist. definitely don't do anything to the golf courses though, they love getting out their nine iron. and they just adore that black fellow, what's his name, lion forest or something?
For me, I use it for when I am traveling. It's easier and cheaper for me to pay $2 to rent a bike or scooter and get somewhere than to pay Uber or pack one on my trip.
I feel like there are two main problems:
1. These are an absolute nuisance in cities that don't have good bike infrastructure, which is the majority of the US. These are fabulous in Scandinavia where there are bike lanes practically everywhere, but they suck here because no one over the age of like twelve should be riding a scooter or bike on a sidewalk, but riding in the road isn't super safe. They also make exponentially more sense combined with good public transportation infrastructure. These are perfect to cut down a fifteen minute walk from your apartment to the train into the city center. They work amazingly as "last mile delivery," but not so much "whole commute."
2. In general, the US is really bad about sharing things. People don't take good care of things that they don't own. I tend to roll my eyes at most "sharing economy" roll outs How long is it going to be before half the scooters are thrown in the river, or free library boxes are just filled with trash people are too lazy to carry around until they can find an appropriate receptacle? Far too many Americans only behave when they're afraid they may have to face consequences for their actions, rather than doing the right thing out of respect for everyone else. We need a major value shift before we can really have shared resources here.
100% agree and most have no morals to care.
@@effu9375 It's a small, but noticeable and growing % of people. Most people are considerate and decent. The lockdowns really fried people's brains and it's gotten much worse since then.
@@Bunny-ch2ul The problem isn't the scooter itself, or the people who ride it. It's the pile of scooters on the sidewalks.
In Scandinavia, you also have a higher percentage of population cycling regularly. In my multimillion city 60% of car rides are for distances shorter than 1km, and the vast majority has never ridden a bike as an adult.
Re no1. Depends where u live. I'm city centre. I can use my scooter to get to any destination within my city. And I use it 100% for all my work commutes (4.2 miles). That used to be an hours walk for me.
Edit: there is no public transport early enough on sundays, so without the scooter, I used to have no choice but to walk, no matter the weather (lone worker, so a ride shre is out of the question too).
I think this video is a little misguided -it may be relevant to specifically dockless rental scooters from companies like Bird or Lime, but not at all applicable for all electric scooters. In fact, they have become a widely popular form of personal transportation especially in cities. I can't go a day without seeing a multitude of people riding them.
i have 2 and use them frequently one is a Xaiomi the other is a Ninebot G30
Agree. I see people all around with them. Being sold at Best Buy, Target. And several variations, of the original stand up, to one that has a seat as a mini scooter bike.
@@luxdalet the seated ones have been increasingly popular in my area especially with people 55+. It makes me so happy that they get to still have mobility options across the city as they age without having to deal with people getting upset with them for not driving fast enough in a car
He said they've been banned in many cities but have made a comeback
The video is about dockless scooters 👍🏻
Think it speaks more to LA's disrespect towards shared infrastructure. They are huge in Florida, people love the e-bike and e-scooter rental stations provided by the city and third party companies.
Idk in Polish cities there are lots and lots of them, i'd say that their popularity has been steadily growing since~2018
Yeah I rode them a bunch in Krakow back in 2021, when I visited, and they already had designated parking zones, and even zones where you can't park them, like the Old Town. So I had to park just outside of the Old Town when I went there.
They are not as popular as they were in the beginning. Many people bought them, cause renting was/is expensive. (For the same price there was Uber)
It’s the same here in Germany with rental East scooters because a lot of bigger cities are just having good business with that
@@TheSmieskoI can't agree with you when it comes to my experience in bigger German cities because I think it's still the same target group and the same times like in the middle of the night when you come from the party and the public transportation is just one bus or one tram per hour it's very convenient to have a rental E scooter to drive home or to the next station
@@Start.a.curvolution that is why, we have a conversation. :) over here Krakow (Poland in general) public transportation is solid also during the night and Uber/Bolt is the same price as renting one scooter. So when you are two, it is better option. However, I have to admit that it's fun to ride, but here you cannot be under influence.
I can clarify one bit of that. Holland is a region in the Netherlands. It's not a synonym. Calling the Netherlands Holland is like calling Canada Ontario.
Or calling the UK England, oh wait...
So people call it holland because it’s the dominant region apparently, everything is there
It’s like calling US America
Yeah that’s what he means they live in holland (like how someone can live in the south) but the country is the Netherlands (like how the south us in the US)
@@theshadowking3198 then why was he so confused? Like, he lives in BC, but the country's Canada, and he speaks English. The only reason people get mixed up on that one is they think Holland is synonymous with the Netherlands.
I once asked a colleague of mine, who was from the Netherlands, if it does matter and what he prefers and he said that Holland and Netherlands is the same and that he prefers Holland
Here in the south of France they are everywhere. More importantly they are privately owned. As you said at the end of the video, they are replacing bicycles. I, as a cyclist, prefer to deal with scooters rather than cars, especially suvs, Not everything is a tech start-up, they are a very good alternative to cars in tightly-packed cities.
10:08 - You weren't wearing helmets *and* you were riding doubles. Two people on one of those scooters isn't safe.
Not just unsafe but against terms of service.
It’s also unsafe for other people around, I’m getting super uncomfortable on my bike when I have to pass these happy smiling doubles.
@@kucherigor I also get even more careful when I'm on my E scooter around basically anyone on a rental. Especially if they're riding doubles.
Exactly. I hate people who do this. I have an e scooter myself and use a 3/4 moto helmet.
So he's part of the problem. Not surprised.
In Chicago they still dump them infront of stores, doorways and multiple piled up in the middle of the side walk
To start off...I have enjoyed these videos since the days of the lofted bedroom and the green couch, but I think @FutureProof that you messed up with this video, and have not realized the US-Canada-centric bias of it. First, and my main problem: this is NOT a video about e-scooters, this is a video about dockless E-scooter rental companies. That is a HUGE difference there. Also, saying "everybody hates e-scooters is simply not true. In my city, notorious for its terrible public transportation, private e-scooters and e-bikes have become extremely popular, especially for commuters, and especially for women who could not afford, or preferred to not buy a car. Women like these modes of transportation because it sure beats getting into a crowded, unsafe bus where there is a high chance of getting groped, harrassed or robbed. So please, review this video and at the very least clarify that this is a video focusing on North American cities about e-scooter rental companies.
Another Chicago person here. I use public transit, bike, scooter, have a car, and I run, so I'm in these streets in every form, though I drive rarely. Like most things, people being inconsiderate is the problem. First, like the rental bikes, people who don't ride well or often tend to be problems for everyone on the road. They don't belong on sidewalks but fools keep riding them there, and they are so often left in places that obstruct the mobility of others, particularly strollers or mobility devices (wheelchairs) it's flat out disgusting. I'm constantly moving them the six inches they could have pushed them out of the way of sidewalks and curb cuts. Cyclists are extremely inconsiderate - I've been shoved aside and sideswiped too many times by cyclists and for a group that constantly screeches that cars can wait the few seconds it's going to slow them down for a bike, that sentiment isn't reciprocated for scooters (or pedestrians). They do not enjoy sharing the road or bike lanes with scooters. Just like with bikes, too many scooters fail to stop or god forbid, walk their apparatus and think they have the right to move unimpeded because they are inconvienced.
There are a number of ways to improve the safety, and should be true for bikes as well: lights and reflectors, mandatory helmets, signal lights and better use of bells/horns, and rear view mirrors and license plates for accountability for the riders. I like the idea of docks, but that reduces their efficiency, so stricter drop-off regulations. If you live in a place where scooters are useful, there are plenty of places to do so responsibly. Also, more aggressive punishments/fines, especially for repeat offenders and dangerous activity like more than one rider, dangerous riding, and generally being a hazard.
I love riding the scooters, and with the busses being constantly late and a mess and still too much Covid-19, and having some mobility issues myself this is a great alternative to driving or using a ride share, but everytime I see one of "us" being reckless and destructive, I'm angered that they are risking my opportunity for mobility freedom by risking the availability of them and encouraging negative and hostile attitudes by other traffic on the road, (including pedestrians) and the neighborhoods overall. We can absolutely do better and still offer these as practical options.
I don't mind them until staffers place them in the worst spots, like the only accessible sidewalk for our wheelchair and walker users who would otherwise have to go off into the LITERAL ROAD.
I’m in a wheelchair so I hate them. They are laying all over the sidewalks of Seattle in my way.
The company should charge folks who don’t “park” scooters properly
@@TheNinjapancake14 I sooo love this idea!
@@TheNinjapancake14 I’m not strong enough to reach down and pick them up so they’ve really caused me major problems, luckily people usually move them for me.
@@TheNinjapancake14 I like that idea but I also don't understand why they get left abandoned for so long. I've seen some that sit for well over a week off to the side of a road or trail. It's like there's no incentive to round up all the one scattered about and return them to a centralized location in a timely manner.
I empathize; that must be really rough. Lime in Seattle now requires photo proof that you have parked them correctly. The app rejected me recently for what I thought was a good parking job, but I had to move it. It seems like they need to tighten up the logic used to determine whether the device is blocking the sidewalk or not, but it seems like it’s in the process of improving.
I sprained an ankle a few weeks ago and while I didn’t need a wheelchair it was great to be able to get on a Lime scooter with crutches in hand and still get around Seattle.
In Finland, the scooter companies gather the profits and the public healthcare is left to treat the numerous accident victims for free. Now the lawmakers are searching the ways to require a mandatory traffic insurance for someone to pay for the injuries and even deaths that the scooters cause.
Fixing dystopia with more dystopia.
By that logic, people should have to have insurance for skateboards, skates, and bicycles, especially since these can end up going just as fast, if not faster as those 15mph scooters
Finnish people pay the public healthcare fron the taxes so it is not 'free'. And you often have to pay for visiting doctor or getting treatment from hospital. The prices are affordable to most people but definitely not 'free' in the most cases. Source: I am from Finland and as an unemployed person I have struggled to pay some health care bills.
Two simple solutions to this. 1) make helmets compulsory. 2) install breathalysers on the scooter. If the alcohol level is too high, the scooter won't start. This won't prevent every incident, true but 40% of the injuries are head injuries and 31% of scooter users involved in a collision were intoxicated.
Obviously, this is an over simplification, but why look for ways to find someone else to pay for the use of the health service when you could reduce the number of people using the health service, then look for ways to charge for the costs.
@@InfernosReaper That's why it's so difficult to find a solution. They wouldn't want to set a mandatory vehicle insurance for example electric bicycles.
As a pedestrian, the biggest problem is with the users. They leave them across sidewalks and don't obey any rules of the road or sidewalk. If they make a comeback, they need to drop off points like with the bikes so they don't just end up anywhere.
The major issue is people driving on sidewalks. I have had to jump away so many times for a stupid kid on one of these scooters. It's dangerous. And these kids more than often end up under a car with their crazy little death machine (like hospitals are begging the government to ban these things under 18). Also as a person who has a normal scooter without a motor: SCOOTERS ARE NOT MEANT FOR THESE SPEEDS. Anyone who has used an old skool scooter knows how dangerous a scooter is when it's going fast. One time I decided to go down a massive hill and something of this shape is not designed for balance and speed, nor for slamming the breaks. One time I feel with my scooter because I hit a bump in the road while going pretty fast and I was launched forward despite going like 20 km/h at most.
@@sleepymonsteraddict Yes, to all of that. They cannot be a free for all like they were before. There have to be safety rules in place. I remember reading a news story about a drunk person dying on one because they ran into a wall. Even adults need help using them properly.
The bigger problem is that the scooters run INTO pedestrians!
E-scooters are really popular in Ukraine. But people, who rent Bolt scooters are really annoying and break traffic rules
Yes, they're very popular in the UK too and it's growing. I'm not sure which countries this guy is talking about when he says people threw them in rivers and didn't like them.
@@chrisparnham america, he was quite clearly talking about america
Don't worry, it's universal rule for e-scooters to break the laws and cause mayhem.
Oh I thought you guys were still.. busy
Glad it sounds like it’s going back to normal now
@@Eli-cc1th people are still living their lives as much as they can, even during the war
Perhaps the US issue on e scoters in lack of infrastructure, and lousy town planning
It's true, everything in the US is built for cars. I was impressed when I traveled to Spain and then Argentina by the number of bikes and scooters being used, but they had their own lane. Riding those here in California usually means sharing the road with cars.
Well, China had even worse problems. But, I agree that we have a bad town "planning" because we don't do it well but the amount that we do thwarts the traditional free market solutions. I grew up in street car neighborhood that was mostly unplanned, and it had a nice mixture of houses, apartments, small shops and grocery stores within walkable distances. Most kids walked to school. The block I lived in was a chaotic mess since when the neighborhood was originally built in the 1920s each house was built by a different builder, and had been remodeled in various ways. But it provided small houses for that widow living by herself, as well as large house for the Olivers, who being Catholic had something like seven kids! Narrow streets on a grid that somewhat slowed down traffic but still allowed you to get where you want even if a street was blocked, but got by without having dedicated bike lanes.
Lousy pay, lousy education
i'm a college student at a school that's basically in the middle of nowhere. People have had scooters for as long as I have been here, but this semester it was so jarring when the companies dropped their scooters here (especially against a backgrop of corn fields and horse barns). They litter the streets of campus and people ride them on sidewalks, on the roads, bring them to class to charge them... it's a nightmare! I can't walk anywhere without being narrowly missed by some asshat on a scooter.
I ride a motorcycle and despite motorcycles' reputation, I would argue that these scooters are MORE dangerous. Full riding gear + a federally regulated helmet on a vehicle that makes enough noise and has enough size that cars on the road can see you, vs. no safety gear whatsoever on a silent, super skinny stick that can get wiped out by a pebble in the road.
From 2017 to 2022, e-scooters were responsible for an estimated 169,300 emergency department visits, which is 46.92% of all micromobility device-related injuries.
Well that's alarming. And not especially surprising. I'd be curious about the breakdown re: type of accident and type of injury.
The first time I rode one I hurt myself *walking* beside the scooter because I accidentally bumped the throttle and it lurched forward, dragging me for a second. I literally wasn't even on it 😂.
@@jaye8103 I am more concerned for the people walking on the streets around them, like the woman getting off the bus in the video. In KC I saw some asshat on one of those plow over a woman pushing a stroller.
I need a citation even if I’m inclined to believe it.
Source? What is also considered "micromobility"?
@@jimstaszko1675 Yeah, but the issue isn't the device, but the user. Put'em on a skateboard, on a bike, or in skates and they'd still be menace to everyone else. It's almost as if there needs to be some kind of accountability for people recklessly endangering others or something
In my city they are very popular. Our bus line has only 1 or 2 busses running at a time. It takes almost 2 hours to go anywhere on public transit when a car does the same trip in 15 to 20 min.
Bird scooters are everywhere and people seem respectful when using them.... no large piles, they are placed out of the way, and usually stood upright...but that might the midwest nice and friendly Wisconsinite persona
I know many people who personally own an e scooter or an e bike. Cause they cant afford a car but live in a large expansive area. It's nice to have options like you said.
I love the way these scooters are abandoned in the middle of sidewalks, making it more difficult for blind/low vision people, wheelchair users, etc. to get around! (This was obviously sarcasm).
I've seen several comments like this about abandoned scooters. Kind of blows my mind that people would do that.
Here in Philly an abandoned scooter would be either destroyed on the spot or "appropriated".
This a is super confusing video. As many people state personal scooters are wildly popular in Europe and depending on where you live in The States escooters are still wildly popular and far from dead. I see them used more now than ever in the pnw.
And reviled by those who don't ride them. Why do you think they keep throwing them in the bay?
They're practically litter all over the sidewalks and the people who ride them are as big a menace as bicycles. They should be banned.
Sounds like you just hate all non cars, @@M167A1?They are the perfect last mile solution in busy downtowns and are incredibly commonly used by business professionals working in large city spaces. They would be less of a nuisance to cars if we had roads built in ways that encourages lower emissions forms of transportation and kept people using last mile transportation or walking safer near and on roads.
In my area I see people on these quite often. The issue is more the idiots who ride them recklessly than the machines themselves. These micromobility devices are great for easing traffic and offering a better and cheaper way to get around
@@nancyokI despise them fervently and yet I only take the subway, bus or walk to my destinations. I live in a large European city and other than the young and the stupid, these public e-scooters are heavily disliked by the majority of people. They are dangerous and the people using them feel even more entitled than bike users, who think the whole street and all the sidewalks are their true birthright. 🙄
Yes, the video title is a bit misleading.
Saw one on sale for 200 bucks, almost bought it before I remembered I don't ever leave my house.
Same, and on the rare occasion I do, I need the range and carrying capacity of a car.
@@Zanthum America built it's cities for autobots not humans
You could ride it around inside the house!
@@manoz6194 and just with that idea, the cost of every place without a staircase went up tenfold 😛
Same tho SuperVinlin
I have not forgotten these things. People dumped them on the sidewalk, and being a paraplegic I would have to backtrack or drop off of the curb into traffic and push my wheelchair down the road. I started carrying a 32 ounce ballpeen hammer with me just for vengeance before pushing in traffic.
A permanent marker is cheaper and lighter - you make some black lines over the QR code used to rent the bike and it renders it useless.
In Europe big cities they're everywhere! And used a lot, very funny be a tourist on them
In my town the e-scooters are all individually owned but they still do lay around the sidewalks, weave through traffic and there is no real consensus on how they should be used. One thing is that helmets are mandatory just as they are on bicycles, skateboards and kick scooters and if the police see someone once without a helmet, they are given a warning but consecutive occurrences will have the item taken to the station and held for a duration of time.
I use e-scoter, which i own, every day to go to work or shop. There are plenty of other e-scoter riders all over the city where i live. Many combine e-scooter with public transport as a means of transportation. There are now bycicle station/ scooter stations where you can service it. I check the tire pressure once a year because it is that reliable and put together. It is easy to carry mine, it is only 12 kg and i ride it on bicycle lines. There are regulations, like top speed for them and when you buy it the ones for transportation are labled road legal.
This channel is so funny sometimes as someone who isnt American ,cause most of the thing yall make videos about "not being a thing or not popular" is very much still a thing outside of the us. Ref. this video, zyn (we call them snuns here in Norway), shopping malls etc.
He was referring to America was he not?
Here before the click bait title changes
I have myself two e-scooters. One is for getting to and from work, the other is for going fast. They’re fun and way better than wasting money on a car, parking, insurance, maintenance when I’m within two miles of work, gym, and two grocery stores. Imagine if cities across the country laid down separate, dedicated, and protected bike lanes
You should consider walking to the gym.
@@BatCaveOz i did until walking up and down 200-300m of steep hill 2, sometimes 3 times a day (especially in our hot and humid summers) started doing a number on my knees. Overall poor take try again next time
As another owner of 2 escooters, I sure hope the one you use for "going fast" is only used outside of high traffic areas (pedestrian or other vehicles). E-scooters are great fun but can be horrifically dangerous to yourself and others at speed, and you really need to be just as defensive as you would in a car
i like that people were saying "oh they're just parked everywhere!" failing to also realise that cars are also parked up and down every single street and take up infinitely more space
I'm disappointed you only focused on the company rental side and not the personal ownership part of PEVs.
Because almost all of the problem comes from rentals. Most of the owners understand what they are doing, while rental users don't.
They're incredibly popular in Ireland for commuting to work, even in our rainy weather. I see loads whenever I'm out and about
Do most commuters own their own e-scooters? Are there ride-sharing scooters like Lime and Bird in Irish cities?
15:00 - Umm.... yeah considering America has basically no consumer protections... yeah that won't happen.
So I’m a Middle Age Dad and my daughter’s boyfriend has one and honestly, I’ve considered getting one myself now.
It’s between that and an EBike.
For context, I’m a recent convert to EV’s (we just bought 2 this year that we love), our area is not quite walkable for more than a stroll, and my daughter turns 16 this year (meaning I’m looking for ways to avoid buying additional vehicles for “Me” since I have a ICE work vehicle, but spend most of my time locally 5 miles from home).
"people treated them like garbage" because, by the definition of being unapproved items dumped on our streets, they were
In Belgium, they are regulated and there are parking areas in Brussels. I really liked the practicality! I used it this summer during an internship in a hospital, but there were many accidents, broken bones and brain injuries caused by no helmets and high speed in the ER.
Rather US-centric.
In Bristol UK they're quite popular and seem to fulfil a role for some people - the police seem to turn a blind eye to the privately-owned ones that are illegal..
As a 64 year old cyclist I'm hyper-aware of bad behaviour around me - especially where motors are involved and they have stiff competition for selfish / dangerous idiocy.
It's not even US centric, it's like his specific city centric. They are more popular than ever over on the west coast of The States 😂
4:31 the soundeffect. THE SOUNDEFFECT! That broke me XD
Fun facts for you, to get rid of your confusion:
Holland is a province (technically 2) of The Netherlands, and Dutch is a Proto-Germanic word related to "Deutsch" meaning "of the people"
Since both Dutch and German are very closely related languages, that's what the English speakers called the language from The Netherlands.
In Dutch, the word for Dutch is "Nederlands" which means "from the Netherlands"
😉
Anyone who cares already knows that.
technically from the netherlands is nederlandse were as with out the e its just the word for the language
as for the rest its accurate so no complaints
@@lieps2547 what you state ia not correct. For example: "die man is Nederlands" It doesn't only apply to the language.
@@RazKino ah yes forgot about that one still my point still stands that nederlandse is the meaning from the netherlands
like dat is een nederlandse man
The guys moving the couch was priceless 🤣🤣🤣
I love them, they are so convinient. I live in Stavanger Norway.
I live in Tromsø and I've smashed two of them. I use a wheelchair, and sometimes people park the scooter across the full width of the footway, such that I cannot get around it. Of course I cannot step over it. So when that happens I lift it overhead and slam it into the roadway, so I can get past. I'll do it again if I have to.
Atlanta USA checking in - we love em. Midtown has them everywhere and sidewalks are defacto legal (they are 4x larger than necessary so splitting is fine)
This video confuses me... It seems like you're talking about bluebike-esk scooter stations but you don't mention you're talking about the problems stations cause, you're framing it as the problem scooters cause. In MA it seems like there are more people using these than bicycles at this point, but its their personal scooter that they care for.
Clickbait title. Also the thumbnail, which says “they failed” even though these scooters are very successful in major European cities.
In Japan it's used but is a real pain especially in Tokyo.
Many ride as if they're both pedestrian and motorcycle, yet won't follow any rules.
The problem with scooters (and bikes) is that users have the same blatant disregard for traffic law and parking regulations that drivers do. Same people, different mode.
but unlike cars they aren't required to have insurance for when they cause an accident.
@@estuardo2985 What's your point? If a cyclist or scooter rider cause a crash (not accident), they can be held liable for damages. Since the 20 lb bike or the 15 lb scooter won't cause that much damage, insurance really isn't necessary. Drivers (not cars) need insurance because they can cause $thousands in damage and injury in just a minor crash. Also, Lyft, Lime, and the various other scooter companies have insurance.
This is an insincere oft-repeated argument that drivers don't think it's fair that vehicles less than 1% of their GVW are treated differently. Insurance, gas tax, and license/registration fees, we've heard it all before.
@@keithmcmanus2406 My comment was not disagreeing with your OP. But your response to mine shows you aren't in the real world. Good luck colleting on a individual. Almost no lawyer will take that on. And it isn't just the scooter it is the nearly 100-200lb occupant (think deer hit). That isn't even including if some person runs in front of you. And again it shows the complete ignorance. A dent can cause thousands of dollars. I am an expert. I have worked in a body shop and as an auto adjuster.
The lime bikes and scooters worked out really well in Rochester Minnesota. As a small hospital based city, they are used by everyone to get around until winter buried them in snow…
I feel like a better title and route of exploration here could have been "Electric Scooter safety: navigating mobility in car centric cities".
That title might be more accurate, but it's also incredibly dry. A lot more people will click on the video as titled than with the title you propose. It sucks that they have to be concerned about that, but that's the way things are right now.
Yeah for sure
I had my own that folded up, I had a helmet and pads and everything. Loved it. I miss living in a city it was useable
Been subscribed for awhile! I liked this channel at first but I can't help but roll my eyes at every video because of how out of touch they can be. Maybe I'm not the specific demographic for them because I'm not a millennial? Idk, do millennials feel like this channel is out of touch too?
This video truly feels like he started seeing them less in his city and suddenly he thinks no one is using scooters anymore but genuinely they seem like they are far more popular than they ever have been. It's just such an out of touch take.
I am 27, and I agree. In the past his videos were more in depth, and for past 6 months or so I feel like the content got dumber. I mean he mentioned his writter is now a gen z. I am honestly debating to unsubscribe because of how law quality his channel has become.
@@lol007 Okay thank you!! I thought i was the only one! Feel exactly the same and I just unsubbed when this video came out
@@nancyok they must have realised how wrong they were when they started researching 🤔🤔 Can't believe ground news was their sponsor
I worked at a bike shop up until recently. We had tons of people bring in their e-scooters to see if we could repair them. Usually just had a flat tire. Except we had to start charging up to $100 for a tube change because these things were never meant to be repaired. A job that takes 5 minutes on a bike (assuming it’s not a cursed e-bike, don’t get me started) usually turned into a couple of hours of finding manuals, disassembling half the scooter, and then finally putting it back together just so a kid could run over another thorn the next day
I didn't know it was that complicated to repair the air-filled tires. I would think the e-scooter manufactures would have made the scooter tires as easy to take off as bike tires.
Im questioning my decision subscribing to you. Way off-base here. Everyone rides e-scooters. Just while typing this, in my office in Italy, Ive seen at least 5 or 6 teenagers flying by on scooters. I think you need to get out more.
me too. i just subscribed and this video is totally bullshit
I am 27, and I agree. In the past his videos were more in depth, and for past 6 months or so I feel like the content got dumber. I mean he mentioned his writter is now a gen z. I am honestly debating to unsubscribe because of how law quality his channel has become. Old videos are good.
This comment is so unnecessarily rude lmao. Sheesh. You need to get out more.
I live in a small town in the US, and thankfully rarely see these. So depends on where you live. I'm not lazy and I walk. I and others should not fear getting hit by one of these on the sidewalk. It is basically a vehicle that does not belong on the sidewalk along with e-bikes do not belong on sidewalks either.
@@nataliecwine I think we found the Gen z writer.
Citizen here from Hungary, I have used Lime and Tier this week. I do not know about statistics and trends, but they are in use here.
I work at Amazon, and we get at the very least 20 orders of scooters a night.
Thus disproving the entire title and assumption of this stupid dumbass video.
In Mexico City most of the transport is also integrated: bike, subway, some types of buses, trams, and even cable cars are under the same card. And the bike subscription is $28 for a full year, only limited in 45-min rides.
My main problem with e-scooters is...the riders, and how local authorities are unable (or unwilling) to do anything about it. People are riding drunk, people are riding two persons at a time, people don't ever signal when approaching you from behind, kids are not even supposed to rent them, but they do it anyway, etc. Delivery couriers are the worst of them all, because they're riding their e-bikes, which are literally smaller motorcycles, but they never use roads meant for cars, just walkways. It's Moscow, Russia. Probably we're just not civilized enough for that stuff? I don't know. I do realize that scooter or bike can't be blamed for human's behavior, but I really-really hate those e-riders.
They were all over Marina (CA) for a while, especially on the CSU campus where I worked. People would leave them in front of stairs and in driveways. I hated those things. Then the pandemic hit. And I moved. Haven't seen one in about 4 years now and that makes me happy.
I absolutely hate these things because they get littered all over the sidewalk, and in the middle of the street.
I use it to go to work everyday. A lot of e-kick scooter related videos seem to focus on the rental ones instead of privately owned ones.
That's what the video was intended for ....the rentals.
They're popular in new york. I see them all the time in Bronx and Manhattan. The only problem I have with them is when they are riding on the sidewalk behind you. I know for a fact most scooters come equipped with a bell or horn but these riders don't use them. I only know they're behind me because I hear their motor approaching, sometimes at the last minute and I nearly jump when they pass me by. It's really annoying. It wouldn't be bad if they just tried to respect the pedestrians and use their safety functions or say "coming through" or something. 🙄
I remember when these things first hit the masses. I worked for a head and neck surgeon at the time and the amount of t of patients coming in with broken faces, cracked skulls, broken teeth, noses, necks etc was huge. I still haven’t ridden one. I agree they are wonderful for city transport. I get it
Lime saved me in 2019 when I was a 7-8 months pregnant uni student traveling from one side of the city to another between classes.
Wow, that was dangerous!
@@martharunstheworld might have been haha but we alive and thriving. She’s 5 now!
Yeah, we had a huge influx of scooters in my city (US pnw) for a couple years, the thing was they were used by people who apparently just threw them to the ground when they were done and block sidewalks with them. Sidewalks which need to be accessible for very obvious reasons. Then the companies stopped picking them up to recharge at night so basically there’d be dumping corners for the scooters and nobody would do anything about it. Thus, vigilantes stealing them and throwing them into lakes and rivers. And then off bypasses onto the freeway onto into oncoming traffic. At that point the cities around here finally enacted regulations and suddenly they were all gone. Now you only see them if they’re privately owned.
Do you guys remember Limewire? I remember tying up my parents' phone line all night downloading hundreds of songs on our 28.8 kbps connection.
Now limes are synonymous with annoying scooters instead, but I'd rather bring back Limewire!
Waiting several hours to download a single song which made you an instant petty criminal for owning. Ah, college days. I prefer streaming services. Especially the free ones.
@@mylesgray3470 You will own nothing and be happy...with ads...that play loudly...when you're trying to fall asleep to a podcast...unless you pay the monthly ransom. 😏
@@mylesgray3470don’t forget the Trojan viruses that would come baked into half the downloads
You are now on a list.
@@balsalmalberto8086 🤣🤣 probably
Thanks for the video Levi! I got into the e-scooter thing before the rentals came around. I needed to bridge the distance from my house to the train, and from the train to work. I tried multiple things including analog bicycles and a Onehweel. Nothing was better than a good e-scooter that had the weight, portability and range.
I think there is a very strong personal e-scooter market because of the fundamental need in most urban areas for micro-mobility options. E-scooters are everywhere in San Francisco. San Francisco also increased its bicycle infrastructure significantly since Covid-19. There will always be a market for micromobility in urban environments.
The problem with the e scooters is the lack of etiquette. No one should be going 15mph on the sidewalk and there needs to be designated storage.
Is there dedicated Bike Lane? Then you're going to get people riding on the side walk, because a of car brains. A guy was killed not 100 yards from my front door because a driver hit and run him while he was doing the right thing and riding in the street.
They’re so popular here in Australia, a good way to get around if you don’t have a car or need to go somewhere that’s not quite in walking distance.
They arrived here in 2023. If only people could park them without making a mess of tripping hazard/wheelchair-blocking litter on the sidewalks.
Honestly, i bought one several years ago for $300 it took me around college, the roads of downtown, and just quick trips to the mailbox. Well worth it
I was walking my dog on the sidewalk and someone came zooming down the sidewalk on a scooter while texting. They would have run my dog over if I hadn't yoinked her out of the way at the very last second.
That's why it's been my life's mission to get these scooters off the roads. And sidewalks.
Agreed, but for a different reason. I’m a paraplegic, these things get dumped on the sidewalk and then I have to get off of the sidewalk and push a wheelchair out in traffic.
We are allegedly enemies then. If more cities had biking lanes and if these companies had better regulations for their rides, all pedestrians would be safe
+1 for proper use of 'yoink'.
Yeah, they are as bad as e-bikes. People go 35km/h on the sidewalk even when they are 80yo and their reaction time has been down the drain for a while. At least 80yos in a car don't drive as much where people walk.
They can be (and increasingly are) geofenced so they either won’t work on a sidewalk or will only work at low speeds.
Lime scooters are all over milton keynes and I love them. No complaints. There are cycle routes all over the city so it works perfectly.
Okay, so hear me out. At what point is something littering? Like, if there is a beer can on the ground, that's littering. A box? Littering. If someone just drops a microwave on the ground and walks away, is that littering? You see where this is going. If someone leaves a scooter on my property, is that littering? If so, I should have the legal right to toss it in the trash.
Didn't think I would hear this from someone one year younger than me, but yeah.
Well, technically if they leave it on your lawn, I suppose so. But if they leave it on a city sidewalk or street, it would probably be the same rules as cars - tow away the car if its blocking.
Realistically, its just as easy to move it to the sidewalk if thats an option. If a neighborhood kid leaves his bicycle on my lawn, I usually just leave it be, with the option to put it closer to the sidewalk, but I wouldn't ever throw it in the trash.
Even if my neighbor takes my designated parking spot, I wouldn't call the tow to come get it.
In ten years you never know, maybe they will tow a car in a row of designated scooter spots...
I like your thinking. You'll need one of those big trash bins though 😜
If someone parks a car, motorbike or bike on the street is it rubbish?
@@Skatted yes
Downtown Baltimore has these all over and they're super popular. There are even multiple companies showing up now, which is great for the user.
i eated them all
That's a good reason
Fair enough 🤣😂
Gotta get your iron somehow i guess.
The "Boris Bikes" in London have been around for years and work in a similar way to your Citibike example. They have many of the same advantages
1) They have to be docked so they're not lying around all over the place. Not only is this tidier, but it means you know where to find one.
2) The fact they're in a dock means they're charging when they're not in use
3) The sponsorship keeps the price low
And also as a nice touch, if you attempt to return it to a dock but there are no spaces left, you can tap the app and it gives you some extra free time to take it to another one - you're not punished financially just because your destination is unusually busy,
I quite literally just got to campus on one, it was a 20 minute drive i always do, tf you on about?
I know. Clickbait title. These scooters are everywhere in major European cities.
The world could learn much about transportation from the Netherlands; really glad it showed up in this video
I lived in downtown Edmonton during that scooter nonsense. We had to sell our condo at a loss because the damned scooters everywhere were damaging property and brought down housing prices. I was run into by one three times and our car was severely damaged by one while parked. I have nothing but contempt for the damned things!!
All you had to was wait. You knew a band was coming especially if it has to deal with DOT (usa) which are federal agencies. Again idk why you were in such a rush. Home ownership is long term play not just leave after something is bad in 1yr
@@limbeboy7 I was moving to a different province for work, we didn't have that luxury.
From what I've seen the problem isn't the scooters, it's the AHs that pilot 'em recklessly and without regard for others. IMO.
Thanks as always and regards.
As a Tourist in Europe & Japan. I actually DO ride E-scooters. They are the best mode of transport to go around as a tourist!
Loved the video.
Mexico City has a great program called "EcoBici" and it's also fully integrated with their incredible public transportation system!
The only thing you need to know is:
- The place/country: The Netherlands
- The nationality/language: Dutch
Holland is just in the name of two provinces.
And it's only used to represent the whole country when cheering on Dutch athletes, because ''Hup Holland Hup'' is very catchy and screamable. 😄
Was also about the comment that Holland as a country is a misunderstanding!
I purchased a really nice light weight carbon fiber escooter and used it to get me the last few miles from the bus stop to my work. I had a car turn directly in front of me without any signals. I was hospitalized for 18 days and still can't walk going on 4 months. One of my legs was destroyed and required multiple surgeries to put back together.
This really seems like a USA problem
this guy hasn't visited the north east. if there's a bike rack, there's an escooter on it. i bought one for 140$ that can go 15 miles on a charge at 20mph.
i bought it to get around for work but now i use it mostly for fun.
i think e-scooters are a good idea but they aren't always compatible with existing infrastructure. renting them out for cheap just gives people a carefree, careless attitude about riding them.
In NYC, Lime/Uber scooters just appeared one night scattered everywhere. Mind you, this was June of this year! There are no designated drop-off areas, they're just everywhere. I've already almost been run over on the sidewalk taking my kid to school. Speeding scooters on NYC streets and sidewalks, ridden by teenagers with no helmets (they love them) is a recipe for disaster.
We don`t hate the scooter, but the users who think rules don`t apply to them (drive like a maniac).
This video is very narrow-sighted. The scooters everywhere all over the ground is, in my experience, an America-centric problem. I'm from DC and just spent 6 weeks there. I live in Seoul and the experiences with micro-mobility or last mile transit couldn't be more different. Lime was one of the last and is, in my opinion, one of the worse electric scooter options available in Korea (Beam is my favorite). Even when they were launched, people didn't try to do ridiculous things or just leave them strewn everywhere (you do need a driver's license to ride them though). While there isn't the exact integrated public bike system like in the Netherlands, I pay around 20 usd for 6 months of unlimited 2 hour rides on them. I see scooters and bikes being used everywhere, and they never went away. In fact, a lot of people used them instead of public transit during covid to avoid people.
DC also has some great things going. I paid 25 usd for a month of the shared bikes, and that includes electric bikes at 0.10/min. That's a fantastic price, and I saw a lot of people using them. I don't think it's a matter of they went away and came back, more of a case of they over-expanded and had to reevaluate their strategy to become profitable post venture capital.
I was going to come here and say that i’ve seen more scooters than ever in my area. And i see many people ride their own scooters too, so this video is factly very false. But the rest of the comment section beat me to it.
There needs to be further regulations and better safety for these e scooters. But they are not going away anytime soon if you look around you.
As someone living in a rural, mountainous area with inclines frequently going to 10% and more, I always chuckle at people telling me all about the benefits of using a bike as your main means of transportation... ;)
The most damning thing I read about E-scooters was that they don't replace journeys by car, they replaced journeys by foot. They're a net negative!
I'd say they replaced trips by bicycle or public transportation, at least in the EU. Plus people have their own scooter, scooter renting is not a thing, except for tourists
Yes! When I was in college 2019-2023 these scooters were super popular for students who were running late for class. If the scooters weren't there they wouldn't drive, they would've walked or not gone to class.
Indeed, one step closer the future where we don’t need to use our bodies to do anything.
@@mylesgray3470 when schools plan you in 12 hours a day when assignments combined and a job with it. anything that makes you go to somewhere faster means more free time
If you use them with public transit, then they do replace cars well. Otherwise, the battery technology only gets better so their range and speed and charging times are always improving. Some of these scooters have a basket in the first and and the second half can be expanded so you can stand normally and you can also add a seat. So this scooter I just described can also be good for commuting and shopping.