How to flatten a board without a planer / jointer / thicknesser
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- A quick tip on how to make a router more versatile to not only shape boards but to also flatten them so that you can work with two parallel surfaces despite the length of a board. So enjoy this video on how to flatten a board with a router or is it using a router sled to flatten a board.
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Translated titles:
Cómo aplanar una tabla sin una cepilladora / ensambladora / regruesadora
كيفية تسطيح لوح بدون مسوي / وصلة / سماكة
Bir tahta planya / jointer / kalınlaştırıcı olmadan düzleştirme
Wie man ein Brett ohne Hobel / Jointer / Dicker flach macht
Comment aplatir une planche sans raboteuse / dégauchisseuse / dégauchisseuse
बिना प्लानर / जॉइन्टर / मोटाई के बिना बो
プレーナー/ジョイナー/シックナーなしでボードを平らにする方法
Meriv çawa nexşeyek bêyî planer / tevnhev / zirav dikare panelê berbiçav bike
Cum se aplatizează o placă fără o riglă / îmbinare / îngroșător
Как выровнять доску без строгального станка / фуганка /
Como aplainar uma placa sem uma plaina / junta / desengrossadora
Im only watching this because my husband is a carpenter and Im trying to learn more about what he does (he mentioned not having a planer the other day). This video was so simple to follow and informative. So now I know what he is trying to make! Mahalo nui, from Maui!!
Mahalo iā ʻoe, mahalo nui ʻia ʻoe. thank you, hope Google translate didn’t mess it up. Always glad to be of assistance to others especially when it comes to enabling our significant others to allow us to get more toys…
I'm only 16 and a beginner to the wood working stuff and this video is actually smart and I actually like this idea, thank you for making this a video. I learn something today
Thank you so much. Comment’s like this make it all worthwhile, just remember to always take your time and consider follow through. please take care.
Absolutely perfect. I’ve been going nuts trying to figure out how to do this without buying any more equipment. Thank you
Always grateful to help out, please take care.
Same. I needed this like a hole in the head trying to understand how to make this work. Problem with my situation is that I’m dealing with prepurchased lumber which I milled down down to 3” improperly. Now I’m dealing with twists and bows. Shall be interesting without the heavy lifters. But a couple jigs should do the trick. This one and a table saw straight edge notched to one blade width thick to about 3/4 down the board. A few passes and a few flips, should get me down to about 2”🤣. Live and learn. Am I right or am I right?
You sound like a calmer version of Nicholas Cage.....
Wow, I wouldn’t of even dreamed of someone saying that to me. Thank you for watching and keep well.
Now that you've mentioned it - yeah he sounds like a calmer version of Nicholas Cage! ^_^
@@gelosoriano You guys are bringing me to tears... thanks for watching, keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks you take care too. I just subbed. 👌🏽
@@gelosoriano Thank you very much sir, keep well.
I love this technique so much, most especially how you compromised and easily use wood to control the router. It's genius 👍🏾
Thank you so much for the compliment, keep well.
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives ruclips.net/user/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
Thank you, just need to find another use for that grease.
Wow! this is a great idea until I save up for more tools. Thank you.
thank you so much for your kind words. glad you found it useful and hope it serves you well.
I love the control of this method, and achieved without laying a hand on the router! Well done.
Thank you so much for your comment and thank you for watching, keep well.
Change that MDF out for some thick Lexan, that way you can see where your router bit is. Awesome job sir!!
You will be glad to know that the MDF was chopped up for something I was working on during 2nd lockdown. As to using Lexan. I would have never even thought of that in a few lifetimes... Please take care and keep well.
This is just what I needed. Thanks!
great stuff, it’s always great to hear that I helped someone out…
Never thought of using router to flatten the board, really will try it as I don't have planer. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff, always glad to be able to help.
In the process of building a new hobby room and i need a nice flat surface without breaking the bank. Thank you sir for this amazing idea
A new hobby room, what a great time to put all you can think of in place. Glad to be of help, please keep well and take care.
@@CleverWoodworks It’s not easy!
You are a genius!!!!! Thank you so much for this video.
Thank you so much for the kind words, I’ll make sure to affirm this to my wife…. please take care and keep well.
This is one of those 'how have I not seen this method before?' moments. Thank you so much for showing how this is done. I will definitely be making use of this genius-level idea at some point.
Thank you so much for those kind words, glad to be of some help to you. Keep well.
Building a desktop and i domt own a wide enough planer and dont own a jointer. But this just make my life so much easier and helped me out. Great stuff man!
Great to hear, always glad to be of assistance. Please keep well and take care.
So after building my own router sled, I immediately noticed that if you have a lot of milling to do to a piece, you have to put up with the constant vibration from the router, I also end up with a back and neck ache from leaning over the piece.
I love my sled, don't get me wrong, I think we all have an attachment to the things we've designed/created.
But, after hour's of watching probably over 50 YT videos on making a router sled......you're fantastic and very clever idea just randomly comes up in my feed once I'd built mine..... Go figure 🤔😁
Subbed and thank you for sharing this idea. When I have bigger pieces I will be using the wisdom you've passed on!
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Sir, thank you so much for the compliment. I know what you mean by not tearing down your very own craftsmanship as it seems so wasteful. However, this technique will work, would of loved to show the 7’x5’ ft 2x10 shelf I made for my son, using this; but I only changed about 5% of the design…
If there is anything else you need, please let me know. take care and keep well.
Clever idea. Basically the exact same principal as leveling the spoil board on a CNC. Very clever indeed
Thank you so much. Never thought of it that way; but, yes the x and y are on the rails and the z is set accordingly. Happy new year and keep well.
I considered buying a planer thicknesser but decided not too because I want to deal with wider boards for making tables. This is by far the cheapest method I have seen. Thanks for sharing. Now I just need to get myself some large end mill bits.
Glad to be of some help; granted this method is not without its problems of finding a large and flat surface to operate on... Please take care and keep well.
You are a madman, and I love it. Using this
Well... it has been stated an appropriate response to reality is to sometimes go insane. Thank you and please keep well.
Excellent video.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the video.
Nice version of the router base.
Thank you, glad you found it useful.
Huh! Ain't that the slickest thing! That's so much different from the rest of the methods I've seen. Thanks!
No problem and thank you for watching. Please take care and keep well.
This is a very common method for flattening slabs, however a critical step was left out. Not everyone has a flat work bench so you can’t always secure your rails to the top and assume the slab will come out flat (you could produce a worse effect than the bow you’re trying to remove in the first place). Securing the rails to the sides of the bench and using winding sticks to check for parallelism is always best practice. I would also add at least one or two braces to the router sled depending on the span between the rails as the thickness of the MDF/plywood, weight of the router, and size of bit play a big factor.
Good point about how the work surface will reflect itself onto your workpiece, thanks for watching. Keep well.
Never heard of winding sticks.
@@U2BER2012 Winding sticks are just two pieces of wood with parallel sides. One is typically darker than the other (or painted to be - or you could use masking tape to make it darker). The winding sticks are laid across a board usually to determine if there is twist. The lighter colored one is placed nearer to the woodworker and the darker colored one is placed further away. Since the length of the sticks is longer than the width of the board being examined, it basically just extends the lines of the board. You can sight down the board, looking at the two winding sticks to see if there is any twist. This is much easier to see in pictures than with my very poor explanation, but they are very handy and simple tools. Best of luck.
@@blakeshedd5354 Awesome, thank you!
@@blakeshedd5354Thank you for this detailed explanation. It really made sense, you did a fine job without pics. & video. My project is for out board motor stands, not critical, more ascetic. Good tips for future reference.👍
I like this! Thanks.
Thank you too, glad you like it.
Have seen this method in very complicated ways and your is an elegant solution, most of the videos that have seen trust on complex lift mechanisms or very elaborated rails and your approach of just use the bit depth and the oversize sled is just genius.
Thank you so much for the compliment, I know what you mean about the over complicated jigs and for the amount of times I might use this, it just wasn’t worth it. Thank You for watching, keep well.
Such a brilliant idea. Thank you.
Glad you like it, please keep yourself well.
this man is a genius
Sir, thank you so much for the comment. I’ll be sure to inform my wife of this as well…. Please take care and keep yourself well.
Great idea, never would've thought of that
Thank you for the kind words, please keep yourself well.
You're doing a great job my friend! 😊🌎✨
Thank you very much for your compliment, I’m glad you enjoyed.
Bloody genius!
Thank you, glad I can help and make an impression.
Great vid well done. Will have to make a set up like that in my workshop.
Great stuff, always glad to be of service, keep well.
I've seen other planing jigs but I like yours. She stationary router and moving the board itself gives better control and seems more safe. The only downside is if you have a large panel to flatten, like a table top, the sled needs to be almost double the with of the work piece.
Thank you. Yes, you can move the rails as wide as you please and like you stated the sled needs to be longer; moreover, you have to counter the possible dipping/sagging in the board that you are using. Please take care and keep well.
Thank you, great video
Sir, thank you so much, always glad to be of service. Please take care and keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks , thank you, I appreciate that. I learned a lot from your video.
Thanks, always great to hear.
Very clever idea.Congratulations
Though I can’t take credit for the idea, I will take the compliment. Thank you and keep well.
What a great idea! Thank you for sharing.
Not sure who was the first who came up with this; however, I am glad that you enjoyed the video and may find use with this information. keep well and stay safe.
Woodworking's equivalent to a vertical milling machine!
Thank you for the comment. Great point, I never thought of that.
Great idea. Thank you for sharing this
Thank you so much, glad you found it useful. Please take care and keep well.
I loved it 🥰 all
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed. Please take care and keep well.
Maybe a piece of plexiglas instead of multiplex, so you can look at what you are doing. Or maybe a see-through hole of plexiglas around the router.
Also for dust collection there are add-ons for the router.
Great vid, thanks !
Thank you so much for your comment sir. I have thought about multiplex; however, as I don’t use it that much and the thickness I do use is only 6mm, it wouldn’t be a good fit for this. But the spy hole and definitely the dust collection would be a good idea.
Very helpful, I am making a tabletop from reclaimed lumber and it needs to be flattened. Thank you!
Thank you so much and my pleasure to be of assistance, would love to see how your project turns out.
@@CleverWoodworks Thanks! It's my first furniture piece, so it is definitely going to be a learning experience
@@emeraldbay3620 I’m sure you’ll be fine, just take your time; after all, it’s not a race...
Brilliant, thank you for this.
Thank you, glad to be of service. Take care.
I've flattened large table tops this way, but for a board so small, you could just take a few swipes with a hand plane.
originally set this up for a seven foot tall shelf that I made; however, I just feel way too classy when using hand tools.... Thanks for watching and keep well.
Nice job. Genius!
Thank you for the kind words, please take care and keep well.
Very good method, I will try that. Thankyou.
Thank you much sir, keep well.
Great job. Thank you! Keep it up please!
Thank you so much as well, without viewers like you it doesn’t happen.
I use my bandsaw to flatten boards. I cut stock to rough length. I have a veneer sled that I attach the stock to, and then I cut the crown and any associated twist from the board. After that, I cut the bow and remaining twist from the opposite side by running the freshly cut side against the bandsaw fence.
Couple passes with a jack plane and my boards are flat and parallel. They're as good as any S2S lumber I've purchased from any number of places.
Yes, a bandsaw is a great and versatile piece of equipment to have at your had. I wish I could have one myself, but just cannot afford the loss of the floor space that comes with... Thanks for watching and please take care and keep well.
Amazing work !
Thank you so much, glad you liked it.
Great and easy! Thank you for sharing
Thank you so much friend, I am glad that you enjoyed.
You can do this with a hand held power planer with a few modifications.
You can also do it on a tablesaw
Or jointer. I belive your running your 2" router bit too high a speed depending on feed rate and speeds this could burn up the bit and or wood. The larger diameter a router bit is the slower the turning speed should be. Also a few taller full length side boards on the router plate will keep it from bowing. It would also let you hold the router and not the mdf.
But this works, just don't hit a knot or you could loose control.
Thanks for sharing!!
No problem, always glad to help. Please take care and keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks You as well my friend. Do you have quiet a few more videos on YT? If so I will subscribe to help you out and to learn. Thanks
Thank you so much for your support, it really helps out. I do have other videos and continue to make others(though not as much or as often as I would like). please take care and keep well.
Great idea.
Thank you so much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Please stay safe and keep well.
For a short board like the one shown, you probably won't notice if there is any twist to the planing jig. Before you try to flatten the board, check the jig for flatness: set winding sticks across opposite ends of the rails and check for flatness. Make adjustments to make sure it's flat.
Likewise, it's possible for the MDF board the router is attached to to flex as you slide it across. Not much, but enough to mess up your flat surface, especially if you want to really polish it up. Stiffen it up with a couple of rails on either side of the router.
Firstly, thank you so much for the constructive criticism. The winding sticks are a great way to know where there is fault; however, after finding the fault the adjustments can become a whole new can of worms. Thank you for watching and keep well.
I suppose the jig itself might ride/be floated even if nominally checking out as flat but that should self correct as the routing/planing process proceeds and it appears the operator here is using it in a random orbiting fashion rather than a strict back and forth progressive advance across the piece that might also mitigate such deflection and just as with a planer/jointer multiple passes lead to successive improvement.
Very good my friend, thanks!!!
Thank you for watching friend, keep well.
muy bieeen.! exelente trabajo..Saludos
Muchas gracias por el elogio. Por favor, cuídese y manténgase bien.
@@CleverWoodworks Uds..también.! Cuídense
I like the budget aspect. Thicknessesrs are EXXY!
Thank you so much. Yes, I would like to get one some day, but I just find it hard to justify the pornagraphic cost considering the frequency of use. Please take care and keep well.
Bravo un saluto da Diego il falegname di impariamo e ripariamo 😉👍
Grazie per aver guardato, per favore stai bene.
Great idea
Thank you for watching sir, keep well and take care.
That’s awesome great idea and simple
Thank you sir, hope it will be of use. Keep well.
That looks nice.
Thank you, please keep well.
Great sharing sir, i'm from Indonesia..
Thank you so much, hope I was of some help. Never have been there, but always loved the photos, keep well.
Brilliant! Thanks!
No problem, just glad to be of help. Please take care and keep well.
Using plexiglass or lexan would lent to more visibility would have mad more efficient use of time
Perhaps; however, I did not have any at the time I made this video and I used what I had on hand. Tank you so much for the view and comment. Please take care and keep well.
Very good idea 👍
Thank you, hope it can help...
Very good
Thank you for watching, keep well.
so smart
Thank you and glad you enjoyed , please take care.
I like this method, plus I do not want to buy a thickness planer. So I can just use my router.
I would suggest to anyone doing this to cupped boards to let the planed boards sit a few days before any building or glue-ups. As severely cupped boards are cupped from tension in the wood fibres and they will continue to cup slightly after the first initial plane, thus having to do another plane.
Thank you so much for the input. Must admit, as much as I would like to get a thickness planer, I just cannot justify the cost and frequency of use that it would get... Please keep well and take care.
good idea 👌🏾
Thank you so much, please keep well and take care.
"Those of you who are faint of heart about dusting and cleaning...". Oh, you just crack me up!
Thank you so much sir, glad to put a smile on your face, keep well.
Hahaha its not about that. Im broke!
@@kulilisinghari Thanks for watching, please keep yourself well.
Good demo and well done, but tell me why not use the dust guard provided with the router, and hook it up to a dust vac and avoid all the dust in the first place? Stay safe out there.
Thank you so much for the compliment. To tell you the truth, I didn’t even think about attaching the dust guard.... I will have to keep this in mind if I ever do it again, please keep well and take care.
I am someone who is prefers using a router for many wood jointing cuts over a table saw like many many YT creaters use. As someone who can't afford two table saws, it allows me to have two setups table saw to cut, and the router to joint. Plus it is my opinion that a router will provide a cleaner joint with most setups.
Even if you have to make multiple passes with a router, as this video illustrates, there are no jagged pieces to break and chisel out later. Cleaner tighter glue ups
It makes me curious why a hand planer is not the tool of choice for this process?
Not only is a powered hand planer designed for this, it is wider than a router bit. A planer can also give a smother finish as it goes with the grain of wood. Less post sanding?
But I have never used this process so I am not experienced with the pros or cons of either tool use.
That could be an interesting video?
And I mean both topics.
A comparison of using a table saw for joints and the chiseling remaining uncut wood vs a router with smoother and no chiseling for tighter smoother gluing.
And a planer vs router for the topic of this video.
Maybe there is an actual reason people use a router over a hand planer?
Yes, I will agree that the router is overlooked on several different operations that it outperforms compared to the table saw.; granted, I’m just as guilty for doing this... but if I were to be asked for a reason, I would have to state tat a router takes slightly longer to set up. As for the hand planer, I have never owned one and most likely never will. Thanks for watching and the comment, please take care and keep well.
briliant！ love you so much.
Thank you, take care and keep well.
Duh! Why have I never thought of this?
Thank you for the comment and view. just glad to be of assistance…
Yeah not a bad idea so long as the thickness of the board doesn't come into play..... you can also soak it in water (the hotter the better) and then clamp it down so its flat and let it dry... more time consuming but it works.
I’ve tried the hot water before... it did better than what I thought I would, but it wasn’t the silver bullet I was looking for. Thanks for the view, please take care and keep well.
Will this method get the bow out of long board, like for a door?
Hello, yes it is possible to remove the bow on a door, you just need a flat surface to operate on. there are also other methods of removing a bow from a door like www.doorstop.com.au/blog/why-do-some-doors-warp-or-bow. hope this helps…
Cooooool !!!
Thanks for watching, keep well.
Excelente,
muito obrigado.
Obrigado pelas amáveis palavras e continue bem
too bad home depot doesn't have a community planer. they cut boards for you, and planks, but no planer.. :(
I did this with 7 2x10s. It took me 3 months
Glad you took your time with the project. Thanks for watching and keep well.
Good t hanks
Thank you for watching, keep well.
Swap out the board you mounted the router on for a piece of lexan so you can see your work 😉
That’s been mentioned to me before…. Interesting idea; however, I was just using materials that I had on hand. Thanks for the comment, please take care and keep well.
Wow! I wish I’d seen the video earlier. I’ve finished a farm table and used an electric planer. It worked ok, but I think this method would have worked better.
Well... nonetheless, I am happy that you enjoyed it; however, depending on the width of the table I would consider getting a thicker board for the router to minimise deflection. Thank you for watching and keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks thanks for the tip. I just ordered the bit and will do some testing on scraps, etc. Really appreciate your help.
@@Greghc48 Good stuff, glad to be of service. Keep well.
Cleaver!
Thank you, please take care and keep well.
Can you do this with a trim router?
Yes you most certainly can. just make sure it’s secured to the board. thank you and take care.
hot glue gun is brilliant for all sorts
Yes sir, I agree. Just sometimes it works too good…
100% sound like nic cage
Thank you so much, perhaps I can find a way to make a woodworking nic cage video one of these days…
I don't have trimmer router...but I own an electric hand planner,, do you have any idea how to make this kind of jig with it
Stumpy Nubs covers this quite well, I would suggest looking at his channel... please keep well and take care.
Sure, thanks for your reply
A raowtr. :'D Henry Higgins crying in pain.
Thank you for watching, keep well.
1 am lucky no 261 subcriber🙂🙂🙂
oh no friend, I would have to argue that I’m the lucky one to have another most welcome member for this journey
How would this do on end grains? Such as for end grain kitchen cutting boards? I know you can't use a table top planer for that style of cutting board. I'm really super curious how this would perform. If it works your about to make alot of overpriced companies very angry.
Good question, I have never used it for that There are a couple of factors that I would probably take into consideration before attempting this. Firstly, I would let the glue set a couple of days to make sure that it is set throughout. Secondly, to secure the piece I would use some scrap and screw it down alongside the piece(much like a CNC set up) so that there is little movement. Lastly, I would only take the smallest amount at a time. So I think it could be done, please take care and keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks Would you mind testing it out? You would probably increase view counts and traffic to your channel if it worked. Drum Sander set ups are insane and most people can't afford them anyway.
This shit is genius! F’n A man
Thank you so much, glad you liked it and keep well.
Я 1000 подписчик😄
Вы очень цените, я до сих пор поражаюсь, что один человек подписался, намного больше 1000. Спасибо за просмотр и сохраняйте все хорошо.
Isn't it better to do some adustment with current dedign to replace that router with a electric hand planer? It should be much faster to flaten the wood.
Sir; yes, you could do some modifications and use a electric hand planer; however, I think you would have to have different sets of rails as a planer only goes so far down to adjust for the height of the timber...
@@CleverWoodworks yeah,correct, that should be in the design as well.
I think an electric hand planer could gouge the wood but that's just me.
Hot glue works better than tape and it pops right off.
Sir, thanks for the comment. Though I would agree that hot glue can give a good grip it is not necessarily better. I tried using hot glue at first; however, when removing the glue and board it was coming up with small chunks of my work surface.
Great idea...wonder if you could take the rise out of some of your following comments
Thank you, but can’t claim it as my idea, this is just how I do it. If your referring to the hand tool types, their just too classy for me. Thanks for watching and keep well.
That's a lot of work to avoid using a hand plane.
Not really, hand tools are just way to classy for me... please take care and keep well.
Hand planer will do
Perhaps; however, you hand tool types are far too classy for me... Thanks for watching and keep well.
@@CleverWoodworks 😂
yo lo hago al más puro estilo de Pepe el Toro ...
Gracias por mirar, mantente bien.
Очень скоро этот кусок доски покоробит и .... . Повторять??? Пока не станет шпоном?!!
более длинные доски, которые я сделал для полки шириной 2 метра и 1,5 метра, не коробились и были обработаны тунговым маслом.
👍👍👍
Thank you, keep well.
Доска то маленькая, вы попробуйте 2000 мм выровнять.хрень какую то показывает.
На моем рабочем столе я могу делать до 1200 мм. Если мне нужно больше, мне придется найти стол побольше или использовать пол тем же способом. Спасибо за просмотр и сохраняйте здоровье.