Years back I worked with a friend who was a superb craftsman and cabinet maker. He taught me the trick of sprinkling talc powder on the layout table and marking the edges with the powder. The Hi spots had power the Low spots little to none the take the Jack Plane and plane it till I picked up a trace of powder along the whole edge.
Sorry, can you explain this a bit more in detail? I've picked up woodworking over the last year or so and I'm a little confused as to the process here with the powder.
Neftali Perez I understand that you sprinkle the powder on a flat table and put the edge you want to straight against the table , the high spots will collect powder where low spots won't
The first half of the ruclips.net/user/postUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.
I lay a 4 or 6' level flat against my table saw fence and it becomes the fence. I take the smallest cut possible, then repeat with the cut side against the level. Just make sure your blade is perfectly 90° and set barely above the board. Excellent flat panels after glue up.
I have a very small workshop (6’x6’) and live in a ground floor flat (apartment). Which means I don’t have room for a jointer or thicknesser and I have neighbours very close so I have to be aware of any noise or mess I make. I often work just outside my shop especially with power tools, and I am very careful how my hobbies impact on others. This video is super helpful, thank you from myself and my neighbours.
Can also be very efficient and it offers the highest level of finish. I use a power hand planer to rough out the board and then use a finishing hand planer to get that finish. Sometimes I will only use a manual hand plane.
A jointer is basically a plane with a six foot long sole. It's just a bit too big to move across a board, so it's flipped upside down and the board is run across the blade.
In their defense though, woodworkers in antiquity didn't use calipers to make sure their boards were straight and parallel to a fraction of a millimeter, anything under a centimeter would be straight enough for most of the projects done in that time period.
If you don't have a plane ? There is a trick to getting the first edge straight. Run a piece of plywood thru the table saw, then mount your work to the plywood, with offensive edge of your work hanging over the edge. Now run the plywood and work assembly through the saw again. Works for taper cuts as well. Nice video Rex
I don't know why there are 421 thumps down, Ignorance or just stupid. My uncle was a carpenter back in the day I'm 62 and when he did wood working almost everything was done by hand. But one thing I do know your way of straightening and edge is just fine it has been done like that ever since I can remember and is a great way to help a guy starting out and can not afford all the bells and whistles. Great advice.
Thank you for your honest video title. Many people say, video not using a jointer, but the use a table planer and vice versa. You said, no jointer and you used a hand planer which many DIY'ers want to see. Thank you.
I have to say Rex that a lot of what you demonstrate in these video's was 'hammered' in to me by my school woodwork teacher nigh on 50 years ago however, I thoroughly enjoy your video's, your content and presentation. Schools do not teach woodwork here in the UK anymore so the only way they youngsters of today can experience the craft is if they are lucky enough to know someone who works with wood or is fortunate enough to watch a RUclips channel such as yours. Keep making these video's my friend and I'll keep watching. Thank you 🙂
Well, if your shop teacher liked this way, then it's probably a good technique. We're the same in the states with shop class. We don't have them because they're not considered "professional" jobs anymore. Of course, I'm a professional woodworker, and I would have really benefited from more education at a young age. Backwards priorities, I say.
The real reason why western economies stopped teaching crafts in school is because those that are pushing the agenda politically, culturally and educationally want to see western economies fail. In their eyes if they have that failure they can restart the system with their version of perfection. None of this is new by the way and has been playing out like this for the last 40 years. The Marxist labour unions tried to make the UK economy collapse in the 1970s but actually failed. When the realized that they could not price down the economy by force they decided to change tactics. Of course today they will never actually admit this is what they are at but people know by their policies what they are doing. Health and safety is just excuse to stop something.
Suggestions that will save time: Save a couple factory edge rips (4-6" wide) from a sheet of plywood or other sheet goods to use as a straight edge. Save one 8' and another 4'. If you intend to use a hand plane from the start, as Rex did, , use the straight edge to draw a straight line as close as possible to the edge of the board from end to end. When you have planed down to the line, you're ready to go to the table saw. Alternate: If you have access to a hand circular saw, clamp the plywood rip onto the work piece as a guide. You sawn edge will be as straight as the plywood factory edge. You can then hand plane, if desired, for a smooth finished edge. A great benefit is that the edge cut by the circular saw will already be square.
What a joy 😊 I am watching certain videos twice so it all stays logical and stays in my head! Think back 25 years I couldn’t get this type of start or help, I still recall sitting to a library trying to find what I needed to know in book I could follow and pictures/diagrams! OK all free but not free like you!! I still don’t do free, happy to do offers and promotions, just not free. So thanks, please keep it going and stay a quality production. Bob England
I can take a board that has a not-quite-straight edge and, in a few minutes with a jack or jointer plane, create nothing short of a roller coaster that leans crazily to the right and left. "Practice", they say. But the more I practice, the more boards I ruin.
Dude, we've all been there. Don't feel bad. A lot of the tips I offer in this video should help. First and most important, NEVER grab a board and just start planing. You'll just make a thinner version of what you start with. Always assess the board for high spots and hit just those spots to start out with. Next, make sure your blade is sharp and has an even camber on it. Use the pinch grip I show here to be sure you're staying on one part of the blade. If you're making things worse with your planing, you need to check the board more often and change what you're doing to reflect the change you're trying to make. Lost Art Press had a book called "The Essential Woodworker" with some great tips on planing. Recommended.
I can totally understand this view, and there's nothing wrong with it. For whatever it's worth, I bet a few hours with a teacher could fix these issues for good. The problem might even be your plane and if it's the only one you've ever used, then it's certainly not your fault if it's got issues. If you have any interest in planing, don't give up! You might just need a little help.
Actually, and especially with a jointer plane, the edge leaning isn't much of a problem if you plan to do the actual jointing with a table saw. I use my jointer because the longer bed allows for riding over low spots without cutting, Once you get that continuous shaving you are very nearly there. The important thing is for the edge on the higher side to be straight and flush against the saw fence. If it is then you can continue just as shown by Rex. The second cut will square up the edge and both sides will be neat and parallel.
Some people buy boards that are surfaced on at least one face and one edge and then flatten the opposite face with a planer and the opposite edge on the table saw. They are then disappointed when their project is not square and flat. You simply cannot trust boards that are milled S2S or even S4S because of wood movement from the time it was milled and when you use it on a project.
Rex, thanks for all of the beginner tips. Norm made it look easy, but the more I watch you, the more confidence I gain and soon I'll be out in the shop too! You're the best! Sending lots of love ❤ from sunny 🌅 Arizona 🌵
Your way of teaching and explaining things in depth and concise is unmatched. Seriously, you spout some incredibly valuable and detailed information! Thank you so much for doing what you do.
For you fellow wood wrkers that have troubles with hand planes make long stroke s ,of course keep eyeballing your and proceed with confidence, practice on scrap wood to get your stroke dwn.and don't get frustrated, mistakes are coming, enjoy your work,don't get dwn on yourselves. Keep the chips flowing and grin when it's right.
I’m a woodworking artist and have been flying by the seat of my pants for past two years. Thx for the info. It confirms what I thought when thinking about buying a jointer.
The way i joint my boards with my saw is use a level between the board and table saw fence. Push them together so the level is the reference edge. Then rotate and joint the unjointed edge and you get really nice edges. It’s much quicker than having to use a jack plane.
I still think that using a straightening jig for your table saw is much easier and faster but it does get awkward if you’re boards get over 6’ or so. So it’s great to see another technique to put in my back pocket when the time arises.
I use a straight edge and clamp my boards to it as I run them through my table saw set with a ripping blade, it saves time I just don't have. I love your videos and does create a thinking process we should do before any project.
Great tip!! Will definitely use this one! Don't forget: it is also to have a quality, sharp, table saw blade. The stock blade that came with my sears table saw, had a slight wabble to it. It was good enough for most things, except when I needed to be precise smaller than 1/16 of an inch--which can happen more often than some may think. I replaced it with a quality saw blade, I paid about $70 for, and I have precise cuts down to 1/64 of an inch. But remember, have to keep it sharp, because even quality blades, when dull, will cut poorly.
Love your videos, Rex! As a hobbyist starting out, I can't tell you just how much they help. On a side note, I don't know why you laughed at taking a plane everywhere...I'm sure any restaurant would love if you dropped your plate and trued up the table! ;)
I have been using his system since this was posted and I have gotten very good at it. I don't own a table saw and will most likely never had the need to buy one. Thanks Rex.
I've found a shop-vac hose, chipper/shredder, and a small buttload of duct tape also works quite handily... ...cuz' I don't have a dust collector either. ...I'm not even sure they exist anymore. ;o)
I can hardly wait till I grow up like Rex and get my own plane... I have been scouting the thrift stores, pawn shops, and flea markets but here in Texas many of these places are VERY proud of their old hand tools.
I know a lot of my viewers are in that boat, so I'm planning on more tool-making videos in the future. There's also ebay. I think the prices there can be quite reasonable if you're willing to do some searching.
Thank you for this video. I knew there should be a way to straighten boards and planks without having to recurr to machinery as costy as a small apartment. My grandparents own these amazing solid wood furniture that hasn't gone uneven or sketchy in 60+ years of use.
If you are going to tablesaw the edge you hand planed.. why not use a different method? The only reason you need a straight edge is to ride along the fence for a straight cut on the other side. Use a piece of board or plywood that you know has a straight edge and clamp the board to that reference piece then run it in the tablesaw with that reference piece clamped to your board against the fence. There are also sleds for this where you can clamp the board at whatever angle and run the sled in the mitre slot giving a perfect straight cut somewhere on the board you need.. then you just cut the other side.
Sorry, i missed that part about no jig. In reality, whenever i need to true a board on the tablesaw is relatively short (less than 1.3m long) i just extend the fence with my 2m long aluminium spirit level. Put that against the fence and push the wood against the spirit level. I'll set the the part of the wood that has a cup and the wood will rest at the edges against the level so it would be stable and not rock. So if the wood is stable and the fence is long enough (in this case 2m long) the wood will never leave the fence and it will be good enough for a nice straight cut. Great tip about hand planing the edge on long boards where it matters. The only problem for me is about cutting away the hand planed side.. seems like a waste. Being a perfectionist will make me invest even more time to true the edges by hand an leave them like that.
I totally get that. I wish I had a nice aluminum level, too. I'd use the hell out of it. The thing with planing the edge here is just to get is close, not perfect. I'm not looking to spend more than 5 min truing the edge, especially if I'm just going to cut it off. You're totally right; what a waste of time and effort!
Rex Krueger , hi Rex. I love the argument, that we learned from it. We tend to get lazy, but skills we lack and require great patience, Before our great skills is lost forever. Keep up your great works. Cheers
This is kind of funny to me, I am a semi-retired Craftsman Carpenter. Took a job trimming out a fancy house with some younger carpenters late twenties to early 30s. They couldn't believe I carried a block plane around! Even got laughed at! Although I have a power hand plane also I still use a block plane quite a bit. Just thought it was funny and I thought I would share.
Rex, thank you for the education. I am that guy who has been thinking about a jointer and now thanks to you, I'm going to go invest in a nice Jack Plane and straight edge. I especially like the hands on planing versus relying on a machine to do everything. Nicely done.
Yeah, there are certain hand tools I always carry when I go to a job. People often don’t know I have them. But when the power goes out on a job, which has happened a number of times, I’m still able to keep production going because I don’t need electricity. My grandfather was a union carpenter, and he taught me a lot. We did projects together when I was only about six years old. We used a lot of hand tools. In fact the only power tool he used in his shop was the table saw. Well, he also used a grinding wheel to shape metal. When I went to the tech school for carpentry, the first thing they taught us was to use hand tools. When we had a good handle on the use of hand tools, THEN we moved onto power tools. That goes to show you, seasoned instructors KNOW that truly understanding wood involves using hand tools where you can really FEEL what the wood is doing. Today I try to use hand tools whenever I can. They’re quieter, which means I can work later without bothering people. And it’s just far far far more relaxing. And you feel really in tune with what you’re making.
You know, I was just on a carpentry job last month and I was working with an older and very skilled carpenter; much better than me. We had to taper a board and while we were trying to figure out how to do it with the circ saw, I just whipped out my jack plane and did it right there. He was really happy we got it done so quickly and with no fuss. I'm totally a power tool guy for speed and efficiency, but anyone who doesn't know the basics of hand tools only knows half the craft.
Rex, I am looking forward to trying this when we get out of the various stages of lockdown we are experiencing in 2020. I am not confident it will work for me. I am, after all, the kind of guy who can’t slice a loaf of bread evenly. But if I have difficulty, it won’t be your fault. You have explained the process very clearly. Thanks for providing these helpful and entertaining videos. They make the time pass a little more easily during this difficult period.
I Learn something new with this video. Have fixed a few boards of 6" Gong yo pass them one more time ... Thank's for the great lesson...from Puerto Rico
Great video. I would imagine the same set of principles apply with respect to flattening the face of a board? Obviously once we get one flat reference we'd run it through a planer to get both faces flat and parallel. I just struggle flattening wide boards. Finding the high spots, accounting for twist, etc. It would be great if you could make a similar video for face jointing one day.
Once again, I become a better woodworker watching your videos! I was considering a jointer, but I already have a jack plane so gonna try this first. Thanks!
Just wanted to say thank you. Ive been watching your videos periodically for last couple months. And just today realized that you make videos that I wish the other large creators made. And you make them with as much detail and to the point Info that anyone could ask for. Keep it up man! So needless to say you have my support and I’ll spread the word
Hey! That's SUCH a lovely compliment. When you say you wish other creators made videos like mine, can you give specifics? I know it's weird, but when you're on this side of the camera, it's hard to tell what you're doing right (or wrong). Feedback is gold.
Rex Krueger absolutely, I understand. I meant that in this video, and in the jointer and drill press videos - that you took a specific subject and made a video in depth and focused on that one subject. You didn't gloss over the subject in a larger/project video. Only one other creator I've seen has done this (diresta) but your videos have done it on completely different topics which is great. Like I've always wanted to see a video on routers. How to set tip depth, etc. others will show a quick how to, but not take the time to fully explain ideas like you have here. I believe there is a lot of value in what your doing with these videos and it is what a lot of people come to RUclips for. I.e not necessarily how to build a "x", but how to use your tools to build a "x". Keep it up , hopefully some of that made sense. Nonetheless, great stuff!
Even if I never use these particular techniques, I loved the video. I found it to be both informative and entertaining. The clarity and detailed explanation, without a bunch of superfluous info, seems very professional to me. I think Mr. Krueger could do voiceover work!
I've done it with a straight edge clamped to the board, and a router to take a fine cut. Once that edge is true, the table saw can be used to make the board parallel.
“If you’re only going to be using your jointer for edges there are much, much easier ways to do it” ...there are much cheaper ways... but not easier. I could edge joint 5 boards in the amount of time you took your first few passes with the jack plane.
You're completely right. I was thinking about buying and moving the machine, combined with setup, maintenance, blade-sharpening, etc. But yes, for straightening an edge fast, the jointer is king.
AWESOME VIDEO AND DEMMO. YOUR STYLE OF TALKING , EXPLAINING AND DEMMO AT THE SAME TIME IS FLUENT,STEADY AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND........THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!!
This seems like way more fun as well. As someone looking to get into wood working after building my first fence over on my grandparents property, this was a question I had and you provided a great solution!
@@jpdominator I have heard about concerns that a rough edge next to the fence could lead to saw kickback. Whether that is still true with modern saws & splitters I don't know.
Might take 4 or 5 passes instead of two or three, but it does the same thing indeed by the law of averages. Each pass gets you straighter as long as you don't try and force it hard against the fence the first two passes.
@@totallynotabot151, just depends on whether or not you can keep the board from rocking on that fence, or dipping when it clears the end. Sometimes a compromise is efficient, by hacking off a high spot or two with your hack plane. I mean, jack plane.
Thanks for the video, I appreciate the information as my son has asked me to help him build a bed from 2x stock that requires jointed edges with no jointer and I have been scouring over you tube picking up ideas. You are clear and concise with you explanations and without that annoying background music most people think is necessary for some crazy reason, thanks!
Man, your comments are almost as good as your art. We need to do a collaboration video. I'll make something cool and then you can paint it to make it double cool. Let's get on that.
When time is of no consequence... When time matters though, a straight edge, a few clamps, and a router gets the job done. And it gets it done with far better results than a jointer ever could.
I’ve read a lot of comments on here, you know going down the comment rabbit hole..... So I’m guessing that there still is a battle with Abrams vs Underhill camps. I like the videos. They are more of a practical, sit on the fence, use what you got kinda guy. I just wanted to say this: Time is money. The more money that you spend (tools), the more time that you have, and vice versa, if income matters. Enjoyment of woodworking, that’s not income dependent, and using methods of 100 years ago or today is a relaxing way to avoid reality. A peaceful time in your shop, basement, or garage.
I personally like to wear my favorite planes I get a nice chain and put my favorite plane of the day on especially my #7 you know what I’m talking about lmao 😂. Awesome video and tutorial take care.
Important skill for cabinets and other large fitted pieces that have to be worked on in place and outside the shop. Lots of people have tricks, but anything longer than 2 feet and your eye is more accurate than anything short of a properly set laser sight.
Ok I came for the table saw accident video a couple of months ago, I subscribed because of this video. This is one of the best, well thought out video on this ‘jointing’ topic that I’ve seen on YT! Well done!!
That's great to know. Honestly, that saw video isn't really the kind of content I like to make. I was pretty surprised when it blew up the way it did. I'm glad you like this video. In just a few days, I'm releasing a similar video on making repeatable crosscuts. Maybe you'll enjoy that one, too.
It's nice to know that the router table method works for some people. I tried it once and the results were garbage. Lots of people like this approach, but I suck at it.
I actually made my own router table. As for jointing edges, I used the Router Fence idea that came from a Steve Ramsey Video (Woodworking for Mere Mortals #WWMM). I have followed Steve way before I even had good tools. The idea works well but it really helps to make your router fence to accommodate with a split fence concept. For the offset I simply used nylon washers to shim out the outgoing side for the fence.
Good vid, much appreciated. May I add? I use a 4 foot aluminum level (biggest I have atm) to find the high spots. Just lay it down, anywhere it touches the wood, high spot. Any gaps between the wood, low spot. Its just a handy straight edge. Edit: Didn't finish the video....
Well, if it makes ya feel better, I'm jealous of those with proper shop spaces, I'm in an apartment in the city, 2nd bedroom is workspace, and not all my neighbors are understanding...some have complained to the super at 6pm! (rotary hammer drill into the concrete walls to install a shelf). Some are chills tho. But I pretty much have to stop at 9, out of politeness/living in close quarters with others. Still annoying, if you want peace and quiet, don't live downtown in an apartment building! Oh, and I got my level for $2-5 at a yard/estate sale last year. Of course the cost is waking up early early on the weekend. But the sticker shock of a new level is pretty good motivation to get out of bed. Cheers
Thank you for this video! I've been trying to find exactly what you just taught. I'm building a table top with 6' boards and I can't afford a jointer. So far, you're the only one that I have found, after a month of searching, that has put out this information. Thanks again!
You're very welcome. You might want to subscribe; tomorrow, I'm releasing my video on perfect crosscuts. As to your jackplane, it kind of depends on where you live. Many parts of the US have old tools everywhere. I also have a series of videos on plane-making. Maybe that will help. Thanks for your compliments!
When sighting down the edge of thin boards you can place a stick (pencils or something similar) on the top at each end of the board and sight from these. They will accentuate any warps or twists.
Good job. Hand squaring lumber that size is not always easy, but you did it, and your plane was plenty sharp! Keep up the great work. Thanks for clarifying.
My jointer lies idle in the corner of the workshop, the most reliable and easy way to edge boards is with a router, straight edge and template following bit. Experience has taught me never to use the term "foolproof"...but it's close.
Seeing that you came up with the same thing I did write down to the three table saw cuts for trying to straighten boards with no jointer and no jig is pretty reassuring that I did an alright job of figuring that out
Oh, by the way. You can also screw your rough board to a straight board that will run against the saw fence. It's actually much faster. I learned that here on RUclips as well.
So many people think they’re making simple options for straight edges, but even this is complicated for a noobie like myself… first would have to learn how use that planer properly… had one, tried it… tossed it in the “never again box”. I was definitely making the problem worse by digging into the woof and setting the blade on the planer, at least mine, was annoying. Actually found a good video on making jig using MDF and tablesaw which i’ll try. I credit you for your creativity though.
Rex Krueger agreed. I wasn't even looking for one... just kinda fell in my lap. But now I have one, i appreciate having it. It's very quick! One can only appreciate the speed of a jointer when they have been doing it by hand forever hahaha
This is definitely the way to do it. I’ve never had a jointer. Used one a few times but it’s just not necessary. Convenient.. definitely. Necessary.. not so much in my world. I mean, if someone was like, “hey do you want this jointer?” Sure, and I’d probably use the hell out of it. I’ve just never been able to justify one.
I would like to take my jack plane on a date with my wife, but she gets jealous. She says I can't keep my hands off of it. Always flattening tables at restaurants and whatnot. I like your video. It is good to know basics of jointing edges with a hand plane. I would hang myself if I had to hand joint all of my projects, but it's still a great skill to have. Good job mate.
I like your direct, articulate, thorough and well-explained approach, with just the right amount of humor. I also like the content, which introduced a traditional method without overwhelming the level of woodworker you're targeting with a shop full of traditional hand tools, or a video full of 'plane snobbery'. A real Goldilocks approach ('just right'), which is strange considering no 'locks' were seen in the video! Subscribing.
I built a table saw jig. Takes about 60 seconds to edge plane. Run it through the crosscut sled for the edge, then thickness planer. Bam, perfect board in about 10 minutes.
I want to point out that it is easier to straighten a short board than a long one. Rex is straightening a pretty long board. My projects rarely end up using boards that long. Consider crosscutting boards down to near final length then milling them. There should be far less wood to remove.
Years back I worked with a friend who was a superb craftsman and cabinet maker. He taught me the trick of sprinkling talc powder on the layout table and marking the edges with the powder. The Hi spots had power the Low spots little to none the take the Jack Plane and plane it till I picked up a trace of powder along the whole edge.
Whoa! That's a pro-tip. Thanks!
That is an incredible idea!
Common way to fit wood guns stocks to a gun for a tight no wobble tight fit where all surfaces contact the gun perfectly...
Sorry, can you explain this a bit more in detail? I've picked up woodworking over the last year or so and I'm a little confused as to the process here with the powder.
Neftali Perez I understand that you sprinkle the powder on a flat table and put the edge you want to straight against the table , the high spots will collect powder where low spots won't
The first half of the ruclips.net/user/postUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.
I lay a 4 or 6' level flat against my table saw fence and it becomes the fence. I take the smallest cut possible, then repeat with the cut side against the level. Just make sure your blade is perfectly 90° and set barely above the board. Excellent flat panels after glue up.
I have a very small workshop (6’x6’) and live in a ground floor flat (apartment). Which means I don’t have room for a jointer or thicknesser and I have neighbours very close so I have to be aware of any noise or mess I make. I often work just outside my shop especially with power tools, and I am very careful how my hobbies impact on others. This video is super helpful, thank you from myself and my neighbours.
My pleasure! Thanks for taking the advice in the spirit it was intended!
Dang,,, and i thought my 12x13 was small,,, and yes this dude is AWESOME!!
mark, you are a good neighbor. not enough space is always a problem.
A hand plane was what all woodworkers used to straighten board edges from antiquity until rather recent times. It still works.
Can also be very efficient and it offers the highest level of finish. I use a power hand planer to rough out the board and then use a finishing hand planer to get that finish.
Sometimes I will only use a manual hand plane.
A jointer is basically a plane with a six foot long sole. It's just a bit too big to move across a board, so it's flipped upside down and the board is run across the blade.
You have to be good and I am not. I always mess up with a hand plane.
@@Kurgosh1 now I want a big ass plane.
In their defense though, woodworkers in antiquity didn't use calipers to make sure their boards were straight and parallel to a fraction of a millimeter, anything under a centimeter would be straight enough for most of the projects done in that time period.
Truthfully, this is the most comprehensive and easiest to follow instruction on jointing an edge without a jointer machine. Thanks!
If you don't have a plane ? There is a trick to getting the first edge straight.
Run a piece of plywood thru the table saw, then mount your work to the plywood, with offensive edge of your work hanging over the edge. Now run the plywood and work assembly through the saw again. Works for taper cuts as well.
Nice video Rex
Shoddy Productions good idea. How about use a router if no table saw
I don't know why there are 421 thumps down, Ignorance or just stupid. My uncle was a carpenter back in the day I'm 62 and when he did wood working almost everything was done by hand. But one thing I do know your way of straightening and edge is just fine it has been done like that ever since I can remember and is a great way to help a guy starting out and can not afford all the bells and whistles. Great advice.
Thanks for getting the point!
Thank you for your honest video title. Many people say, video not using a jointer, but the use a table planer and vice versa. You said, no jointer and you used a hand planer which many DIY'ers want to see. Thank you.
I have to say Rex that a lot of what you demonstrate in these video's was 'hammered' in to me by my school woodwork teacher nigh on 50 years ago however, I thoroughly enjoy your video's, your content and presentation. Schools do not teach woodwork here in the UK anymore so the only way they youngsters of today can experience the craft is if they are lucky enough to know someone who works with wood or is fortunate enough to watch a RUclips channel such as yours. Keep making these video's my friend and I'll keep watching. Thank you 🙂
Well, if your shop teacher liked this way, then it's probably a good technique. We're the same in the states with shop class. We don't have them because they're not considered "professional" jobs anymore. Of course, I'm a professional woodworker, and I would have really benefited from more education at a young age. Backwards priorities, I say.
I reckon they stopped in the UK because of health and safety/ liability worries...
The real reason why western economies stopped teaching crafts in school is because those that are pushing the agenda politically, culturally and educationally want to see western economies fail.
In their eyes if they have that failure they can restart the system with their version of perfection. None of this is new by the way and has been playing out like this for the last 40 years.
The Marxist labour unions tried to make the UK economy collapse in the 1970s but actually failed. When the realized that they could not price down the economy by force they decided to change tactics.
Of course today they will never actually admit this is what they are at but people know by their policies what they are doing.
Health and safety is just excuse to stop something.
bighands69! Get some fresh air and take your tin foil hat off once in a while
Too bad the schools dont teach woodshop anymore!
Suggestions that will save time: Save a couple factory edge rips (4-6" wide) from a sheet of plywood or other sheet goods to use as a straight edge. Save one 8' and another 4'. If you intend to use a hand plane from the start, as Rex did, , use the straight edge to draw a straight line as close as possible to the edge of the board from end to end. When you have planed down to the line, you're ready to go to the table saw.
Alternate: If you have access to a hand circular saw, clamp the plywood rip onto the work piece as a guide. You sawn edge will be as straight as the plywood factory edge. You can then hand plane, if desired, for a smooth finished edge. A great benefit is that the edge cut by the circular saw will already be square.
What a joy 😊 I am watching certain videos twice so it all stays logical and stays in my head! Think back 25 years I couldn’t get this type of start or help, I still recall sitting to a library trying to find what I needed to know in book I could follow and pictures/diagrams! OK all free but not free like you!! I still don’t do free, happy to do offers and promotions, just not free.
So thanks, please keep it going and stay a quality production.
Bob
England
I can take a board that has a not-quite-straight edge and, in a few minutes with a jack or jointer plane, create nothing short of a roller coaster that leans crazily to the right and left.
"Practice", they say. But the more I practice, the more boards I ruin.
Dude, we've all been there. Don't feel bad. A lot of the tips I offer in this video should help. First and most important, NEVER grab a board and just start planing. You'll just make a thinner version of what you start with. Always assess the board for high spots and hit just those spots to start out with. Next, make sure your blade is sharp and has an even camber on it. Use the pinch grip I show here to be sure you're staying on one part of the blade. If you're making things worse with your planing, you need to check the board more often and change what you're doing to reflect the change you're trying to make. Lost Art Press had a book called "The Essential Woodworker" with some great tips on planing. Recommended.
My experience right here. Everytime i use my plane this is the result. Jigs for life!
I can totally understand this view, and there's nothing wrong with it. For whatever it's worth, I bet a few hours with a teacher could fix these issues for good. The problem might even be your plane and if it's the only one you've ever used, then it's certainly not your fault if it's got issues. If you have any interest in planing, don't give up! You might just need a little help.
Actually, and especially with a jointer plane, the edge leaning isn't much of a problem if you plan to do the actual jointing with a table saw. I use my jointer because the longer bed allows for riding over low spots without cutting,
Once you get that continuous shaving you are very nearly there. The important thing is for the edge on the higher side to be straight and flush against the saw fence. If it is then you can continue just as shown by Rex. The second cut will square up the edge and both sides will be neat and parallel.
Seriously, just make a jig for the table saw and you don't have to mess with practice.
Some people buy boards that are surfaced on at least one face and one edge and then flatten the opposite face with a planer and the opposite edge on the table saw. They are then disappointed when their project is not square and flat. You simply cannot trust boards that are milled S2S or even S4S because of wood movement from the time it was milled and when you use it on a project.
Rex, thanks for all of the beginner tips. Norm made it look easy, but the more I watch you, the more confidence I gain and soon I'll be out in the shop too! You're the best! Sending lots of love ❤ from sunny 🌅 Arizona 🌵
i enjoyed your movies.
Your way of teaching and explaining things in depth and concise is unmatched. Seriously, you spout some incredibly valuable and detailed information! Thank you so much for doing what you do.
@MichaelKingsfordGray um, what..?
For you fellow wood wrkers that have troubles with hand planes make long stroke s ,of course keep eyeballing your and proceed with confidence, practice on scrap wood to get your stroke dwn.and don't get frustrated, mistakes are coming, enjoy your work,don't get dwn on yourselves. Keep the chips flowing and grin when it's right.
I’m a woodworking artist and have been flying by the seat of my pants for past two years. Thx for the info. It confirms what I thought when thinking about buying a jointer.
After all that work making a perfect rectangular prism of wood, who would have the heart to cut it and use it in another project? :)
You use it as a template for straightening other boards!
The way i joint my boards with my saw is use a level between the board and table saw fence. Push them together so the level is the reference edge. Then rotate and joint the unjointed edge and you get really nice edges. It’s much quicker than having to use a jack plane.
I still think that using a straightening jig for your table saw is much easier and faster but it does get awkward if you’re boards get over 6’ or so. So it’s great to see another technique to put in my back pocket when the time arises.
I still need to build one, but I always liked them. At the very least you have a few options to get your wood ready for the project.
I use a straight edge and clamp my boards to it as I run them through my table saw set with a ripping blade, it saves time I just don't have. I love your videos and does create a thinking process we should do before any project.
So what I'm really hearing is that it's easier and cheaper to find a friend who has a jointer and show up with a 6er of beer? :)
Yup...just remember...work FIRST, beer second!
use a flush trim bit, a straight edge and a router.
Good, but I think you spelled 'joint' wrong.
@@johnschenk9073 everyone is going to John's house.
@@cameronjohnson3736 LOL, bring the beer, I have the jointer!
Great tip!! Will definitely use this one!
Don't forget: it is also to have a quality, sharp, table saw blade.
The stock blade that came with my sears table saw, had a slight wabble to it. It was good enough for most things, except when I needed to be precise smaller than 1/16 of an inch--which can happen more often than some may think.
I replaced it with a quality saw blade, I paid about $70 for, and I have precise cuts down to 1/64 of an inch.
But remember, have to keep it sharp, because even quality blades, when dull, will cut poorly.
I couldn't agree more. I spend real money on blades and I get them sharpened.
Love your videos, Rex! As a hobbyist starting out, I can't tell you just how much they help. On a side note, I don't know why you laughed at taking a plane everywhere...I'm sure any restaurant would love if you dropped your plate and trued up the table! ;)
I restaurant might be okay with it. My wife...less so. Really glad you're enjoying the videos!
3:28 I paused it right here, so when I came back to it without context it gave me a good chuckle.
help ive been planing all day my board is gone now
That sucks but I bet your shop smells amazing now.
You’re supposed to stop when you have a really long and flat toothpick.
You building a bonfire? You're good!
Don't mourn the loss of your board, look at all the beautiful shaving you have.
Legend has it, he's still planing to this day.
I have been using his system since this was posted and I have gotten very good at it. I don't own a table saw and will most likely never had the need to buy one. Thanks Rex.
As somebody with a Craigslist jointer the way around the dust collection... Do it outside and sweep the chips into hedges... Boom free multch!
I've found a shop-vac hose, chipper/shredder, and a small buttload of duct tape also works quite handily...
...cuz' I don't have a dust collector either.
...I'm not even sure they exist anymore. ;o)
I can hardly wait till I grow up like Rex and get my own plane...
I have been scouting the thrift stores, pawn shops, and flea markets but here in Texas many of these places are VERY proud of their old hand tools.
I know a lot of my viewers are in that boat, so I'm planning on more tool-making videos in the future. There's also ebay. I think the prices there can be quite reasonable if you're willing to do some searching.
This channel is gold!
Thank you for this video. I knew there should be a way to straighten boards and planks without having to recurr to machinery as costy as a small apartment. My grandparents own these amazing solid wood furniture that hasn't gone uneven or sketchy in 60+ years of use.
If you are going to tablesaw the edge you hand planed.. why not use a different method? The only reason you need a straight edge is to ride along the fence for a straight cut on the other side. Use a piece of board or plywood that you know has a straight edge and clamp the board to that reference piece then run it in the tablesaw with that reference piece clamped to your board against the fence.
There are also sleds for this where you can clamp the board at whatever angle and run the sled in the mitre slot giving a perfect straight cut somewhere on the board you need.. then you just cut the other side.
Sorry, i missed that part about no jig.
In reality, whenever i need to true a board on the tablesaw is relatively short (less than 1.3m long) i just extend the fence with my 2m long aluminium spirit level. Put that against the fence and push the wood against the spirit level. I'll set the the part of the wood that has a cup and the wood will rest at the edges against the level so it would be stable and not rock. So if the wood is stable and the fence is long enough (in this case 2m long) the wood will never leave the fence and it will be good enough for a nice straight cut.
Great tip about hand planing the edge on long boards where it matters. The only problem for me is about cutting away the hand planed side.. seems like a waste. Being a perfectionist will make me invest even more time to true the edges by hand an leave them like that.
I totally get that. I wish I had a nice aluminum level, too. I'd use the hell out of it. The thing with planing the edge here is just to get is close, not perfect. I'm not looking to spend more than 5 min truing the edge, especially if I'm just going to cut it off. You're totally right; what a waste of time and effort!
Rex Krueger , hi Rex. I love the argument, that we learned from it. We tend to get lazy, but skills we lack and require great patience,
Before our great skills is lost forever. Keep up your great works. Cheers
That handscrew clamp clamped to the table? That's a jig.
Heraclitean no, it’s a clamp 😂
This is kind of funny to me, I am a semi-retired Craftsman Carpenter. Took a job trimming out a fancy house with some younger carpenters late twenties to early 30s. They couldn't believe I carried a block plane around! Even got laughed at! Although I have a power hand plane also I still use a block plane quite a bit. Just thought it was funny and I thought I would share.
I worked in several furniture shops. Carried several planes with me to the job each day.
Rex: This is six inches, its not that much.
Every guy watching: Hey!
A Well Dressed Male Papaya some might say, it’s about average 😂
THATS WHAT SHE SAID.......LOL GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU
Me laughing in africa
Every girl watching : Agreed !
Thanks for the comment Xavier. My penis is also small!
Love the fact that you try to make do with what you have rather than buy expensive "single job" tools!
I admit, I'm not a fan of the "single job" tool. I like things to be versatile. Thanks for watching!
Rex- "I always have my jack plane with me"
The rest of us- "and the 10 or 12 spares you own, you tool hoarder."
Guilty!
Rex, thank you for the education. I am that guy who has been thinking about a jointer and now thanks to you, I'm going to go invest in a nice Jack Plane and straight edge. I especially like the hands on planing versus relying on a machine to do everything. Nicely done.
Over a year later and I still don't own a jointer and I have no plans to get one.
"Let's just skip the intro..." Chuckled. Always something with you, Rex, even though this is 2 years old.
you are a naturally skilled teacher , straight to the point info, thanks . my attention span thanks you as well.
Man, that's EXACTLY what I'm going for. Straight to the point. No BS. Thanks!
9:14 Rex meets his wife at the bar. Wife goes, " - Is that a jackplane in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" 😎
Yeah, there are certain hand tools I always carry when I go to a job. People often don’t know I have them. But when the power goes out on a job, which has happened a number of times, I’m still able to keep production going because I don’t need electricity.
My grandfather was a union carpenter, and he taught me a lot. We did projects together when I was only about six years old. We used a lot of hand tools. In fact the only power tool he used in his shop was the table saw. Well, he also used a grinding wheel to shape metal.
When I went to the tech school for carpentry, the first thing they taught us was to use hand tools. When we had a good handle on the use of hand tools, THEN we moved onto power tools. That goes to show you, seasoned instructors KNOW that truly understanding wood involves using hand tools where you can really FEEL what the wood is doing.
Today I try to use hand tools whenever I can. They’re quieter, which means I can work later without bothering people. And it’s just far far far more relaxing. And you feel really in tune with what you’re making.
You know, I was just on a carpentry job last month and I was working with an older and very skilled carpenter; much better than me. We had to taper a board and while we were trying to figure out how to do it with the circ saw, I just whipped out my jack plane and did it right there. He was really happy we got it done so quickly and with no fuss. I'm totally a power tool guy for speed and efficiency, but anyone who doesn't know the basics of hand tools only knows half the craft.
After all this hard work you just cut off the perfect edge you've made. You broke my heart.
No - he pushed the hand-flattened edge on the guide while feeding the other, not-yet-flattened edge into the saw.
I really enjoy your processes, your humor, and your attention to how little many people have to spend on tools! ❤️❤️
I bought my jack plane while on a date with my wife, so I know exactly what you're talking about
Wow. I thought I was bad. I salute you for your enormous balls!
Flowers and perfume and jewelry are so cliched. Woo her with jack planes!
You named that plane Max I bet.
I appreciate your existence in this universe of ours. Kudos, I'm learning from you.
"This is six inches. It's not very much."
Wow, I didn't expect to be attacked like that, but ok
you have six inches?
#humblebrag
@@windhelmguard5295 Well I have way more...
Rex, I am looking forward to trying this when we get out of the various stages of lockdown we are experiencing in 2020. I am not confident it will work for me. I am, after all, the kind of guy who can’t slice a loaf of bread evenly. But if I have difficulty, it won’t be your fault. You have explained the process very clearly. Thanks for providing these helpful and entertaining videos. They make the time pass a little more easily during this difficult period.
I Learn something new with this video.
Have fixed a few boards of 6" Gong yo pass them one more time ... Thank's for the great lesson...from Puerto Rico
A skillful person makes it look easy.
Great video. I would imagine the same set of principles apply with respect to flattening the face of a board? Obviously once we get one flat reference we'd run it through a planer to get both faces flat and parallel. I just struggle flattening wide boards. Finding the high spots, accounting for twist, etc. It would be great if you could make a similar video for face jointing one day.
Once again, I become a better woodworker watching your videos! I was considering a jointer, but I already have a jack plane so gonna try this first. Thanks!
""this is six inches right here it's not very much""
Context, my friend. Sometimes 6 inches is plenty.
;-)
OMG... Did we really go there?
That's what she said.
I feel his pain,,, heheheheheh
Just wanted to say thank you. Ive been watching your videos periodically for last couple months. And just today realized that you make videos that I wish the other large creators made. And you make them with as much detail and to the point Info that anyone could ask for. Keep it up man! So needless to say you have my support and I’ll spread the word
Hey! That's SUCH a lovely compliment. When you say you wish other creators made videos like mine, can you give specifics? I know it's weird, but when you're on this side of the camera, it's hard to tell what you're doing right (or wrong). Feedback is gold.
Rex Krueger absolutely, I understand. I meant that in this video, and in the jointer and drill press videos - that you took a specific subject and made a video in depth and focused on that one subject. You didn't gloss over the subject in a larger/project video. Only one other creator I've seen has done this (diresta) but your videos have done it on completely different topics which is great. Like I've always wanted to see a video on routers. How to set tip depth, etc. others will show a quick how to, but not take the time to fully explain ideas like you have here. I believe there is a lot of value in what your doing with these videos and it is what a lot of people come to RUclips for. I.e not necessarily how to build a "x", but how to use your tools to build a "x". Keep it up , hopefully some of that made sense. Nonetheless, great stuff!
That made perfect sense! I'll look into doing a router video!
..... or just use a circular saw guided by a straight piece of wood and cut down the length.
Right?
Christian Holmstedt track saw
Even if I never use these particular techniques, I loved the video. I found it to be both informative and entertaining. The clarity and detailed explanation, without a bunch of superfluous info, seems very professional to me. I think Mr. Krueger could do voiceover work!
i just use a skill saw and a straight edge, one cut, light sanding, done.
I've done it with a straight edge clamped to the board, and a router to take a fine cut. Once that edge is true, the table saw can be used to make the board parallel.
@@isaackvasager9957 I think it's a preference. They enjoy the hand plane and the process of making. Not just "get stuff done" as fast as possible.
@@isaackvasager9957 this I agree with. For most of us it's a hobby. Do what makes you happy
As a new wood worker I am so glad I found your channel!
“If you’re only going to be using your jointer for edges there are much, much easier ways to do it” ...there are much cheaper ways... but not easier. I could edge joint 5 boards in the amount of time you took your first few passes with the jack plane.
You're completely right. I was thinking about buying and moving the machine, combined with setup, maintenance, blade-sharpening, etc. But yes, for straightening an edge fast, the jointer is king.
Okay, cool!
AWESOME VIDEO AND DEMMO. YOUR STYLE OF TALKING , EXPLAINING AND DEMMO AT THE SAME TIME IS FLUENT,STEADY AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND........THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!!
Yup... looks good.
(... goes out and buys a jointer)
Brandon Grove wat?
Yeah, precisely how I feel. It's really cool to watch, but I don't dig doing things the painful way. XD
That two clamp system is brilliant
Glad you like it! I use it all the time.
This is plane good advice. Thank you!
@William I found this website online that will give you a ton of woodworking plans: WoodFix.xyz
Let me know what you think of it.
You don't know jack.
This seems like way more fun as well. As someone looking to get into wood working after building my first fence over on my grandparents property, this was a question I had and you provided a great solution!
I'm really glad! If you can build a fence, I'm sure you can do solid woodworking.
chuck it straight through the table saw dont need to plane it
Jared Lamb I was just going to ask... why plane it? A long fence sounds like it’d save all the time spent planing.
@@jpdominator I have heard about concerns that a rough edge next to the fence could lead to saw kickback. Whether that is still true with modern saws & splitters I don't know.
Might take 4 or 5 passes instead of two or three, but it does the same thing indeed by the law of averages. Each pass gets you straighter as long as you don't try and force it hard against the fence the first two passes.
@@totallynotabot151, just depends on whether or not you can keep the board from rocking on that fence, or dipping when it clears the end. Sometimes a compromise is efficient, by hacking off a high spot or two with your hack plane. I mean, jack plane.
Damn, now I need a workbench
I just use a sled and run it though my table saw.
I agree. Either that or a flush trim bit a straight edge and a router.
Thanks for the video, I appreciate the information as my son has asked me to help him build a bed from 2x stock that requires jointed edges with no jointer and I have been scouring over you tube picking up ideas. You are clear and concise with you explanations and without that annoying background music most people think is necessary for some crazy reason, thanks!
But Rex what do you do when you don't have your jack pla..... Beat me to it 😀
Man, your comments are almost as good as your art. We need to do a collaboration video. I'll make something cool and then you can paint it to make it double cool. Let's get on that.
If you don´t have a plane, you might want to use a ship.
Umh... Wait a minute...
Rex Krueger yeah man I'm game! Sorry just saw this comment haha
No trouble! Just seems like a good thing to do.
You use your jointer plane, obviously!
When time is of no consequence...
When time matters though, a straight edge, a few clamps, and a router gets the job done. And it gets it done with far better results than a jointer ever could.
Dude! That was hilarious "I carry my plank everywhere, I even take it on dates with my wife". I had a good laugh out of that.
I’ve read a lot of comments on here, you know going down the comment rabbit hole.....
So I’m guessing that there still is a battle with Abrams vs Underhill camps.
I like the videos. They are more of a practical, sit on the fence, use what you got kinda guy.
I just wanted to say this:
Time is money. The more money that you spend (tools), the more time that you have, and vice versa, if income matters.
Enjoyment of woodworking, that’s not income dependent, and using methods of 100 years ago or today is a relaxing way to avoid reality. A peaceful time in your shop, basement, or garage.
I personally like to wear my favorite planes I get a nice chain and put my favorite plane of the day on especially my #7 you know what I’m talking about lmao 😂. Awesome video and tutorial take care.
Thom spillane i have a number 7 Bailey , triple patent , galvanized bottom. Circa 1912. Plane.
Important skill for cabinets and other large fitted pieces that have to be worked on in place and outside the shop. Lots of people have tricks, but anything longer than 2 feet and your eye is more accurate than anything short of a properly set laser sight.
A chalkline can do a pretty good job on rough lumber, helping to get closer to straight before finessing that board. It might save you some time.
Why must every RUclips video open with an unnecessary "so?"
So if you don't have anything nice to say...
Ok I came for the table saw accident video a couple of months ago, I subscribed because of this video. This is one of the best, well thought out video on this ‘jointing’ topic that I’ve seen on YT! Well done!!
That's great to know. Honestly, that saw video isn't really the kind of content I like to make. I was pretty surprised when it blew up the way it did. I'm glad you like this video. In just a few days, I'm releasing a similar video on making repeatable crosscuts. Maybe you'll enjoy that one, too.
Rex Krueger Awesome, thanks for taking the time to respond.
use a router table
Yup, that's another way to do it...although then you don't even have the 6" capacity of a jointer, so that's kind of a mixed bag solution.
That's how I've been doing it so far but I really want to do some plane work by hand. Just a pride factor really.
It's nice to know that the router table method works for some people. I tried it once and the results were garbage. Lots of people like this approach, but I suck at it.
I actually made my own router table. As for jointing edges, I used the Router Fence idea that came from a Steve Ramsey Video (Woodworking for Mere Mortals #WWMM). I have followed Steve way before I even had good tools.
The idea works well but it really helps to make your router fence to accommodate with a split fence concept. For the offset I simply used nylon washers to shim out the outgoing side for the fence.
That certainly sounds like the way to do it.
Good vid, much appreciated. May I add?
I use a 4 foot aluminum level (biggest I have atm) to find the high spots. Just lay it down, anywhere it touches the wood, high spot. Any gaps between the wood, low spot. Its just a handy straight edge.
Edit: Didn't finish the video....
I agree that a level like this would be great for jointing edges. I'm a bit jealous of those who have these.
Well, if it makes ya feel better, I'm jealous of those with proper shop spaces, I'm in an apartment in the city, 2nd bedroom is workspace, and not all my neighbors are understanding...some have complained to the super at 6pm! (rotary hammer drill into the concrete walls to install a shelf). Some are chills tho. But I pretty much have to stop at 9, out of politeness/living in close quarters with others. Still annoying, if you want peace and quiet, don't live downtown in an apartment building!
Oh, and I got my level for $2-5 at a yard/estate sale last year. Of course the cost is waking up early early on the weekend. But the sticker shock of a new level is pretty good motivation to get out of bed.
Cheers
Thank you for this video! I've been trying to find exactly what you just taught. I'm building a table top with 6' boards and I can't afford a jointer. So far, you're the only one that I have found, after a month of searching, that has put out this information. Thanks again!
Now I just need a jack plane
You're very welcome. You might want to subscribe; tomorrow, I'm releasing my video on perfect crosscuts. As to your jackplane, it kind of depends on where you live. Many parts of the US have old tools everywhere. I also have a series of videos on plane-making. Maybe that will help. Thanks for your compliments!
When sighting down the edge of thin boards you can place a stick (pencils or something similar) on the top at each end of the board and sight from these. They will accentuate any warps or twists.
A solid tip!
Really enjoying the mix of technique and humour in your videos. Just the right level of humour too; not to much, not too little.
I'm really glad you think so! Sometimes, you need a little humor for a dry topic, but it's easy to go too far and make things corny.
I love finding new woodworking creators. Especially ones who craft and teach well. +1 subscriber. Thanks sir!
Finally, you give your jack plane a reacharound! About time after all it's "done" for you.
Good job. Hand squaring lumber that size is not always easy, but you did it, and your plane was plenty sharp! Keep up the great work. Thanks for clarifying.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
My jointer lies idle in the corner of the workshop, the most reliable and easy way to edge boards is with a router, straight edge and template following bit. Experience has taught me never to use the term "foolproof"...but it's close.
Seeing that you came up with the same thing I did write down to the three table saw cuts for trying to straighten boards with no jointer and no jig is pretty reassuring that I did an alright job of figuring that out
Yeah! This technique isn't the fastest (the fastest is a jointer) but it gives excellent results. Glad someone else is getting good edges this way.
Oh, by the way. You can also screw your rough board to a straight board that will run against the saw fence. It's actually much faster. I learned that here on RUclips as well.
So many people think they’re making simple options for straight edges, but even this is complicated for a noobie like myself… first would have to learn how use that planer properly… had one, tried it… tossed it in the “never again box”. I was definitely making the problem worse by digging into the woof and setting the blade on the planer, at least mine, was annoying. Actually found a good video on making jig using MDF and tablesaw which i’ll try. I credit you for your creativity though.
You've created excellent, clear instructions and presented them well. Thank you!
My pleasure!
this is a great method.. i've been doing this method for ages, but recently picked up a used jointer (which i'm very happy about)
I will totally get one when space an finances allow. Jointers are great...just not a necessity.
Rex Krueger agreed. I wasn't even looking for one... just kinda fell in my lap. But now I have one, i appreciate having it. It's very quick! One can only appreciate the speed of a jointer when they have been doing it by hand forever hahaha
Best advice on wood working I’ve seen so far.
This is definitely the way to do it. I’ve never had a jointer. Used one a few times but it’s just not necessary. Convenient.. definitely. Necessary.. not so much in my world. I mean, if someone was like, “hey do you want this jointer?” Sure, and I’d probably use the hell out of it. I’ve just never been able to justify one.
I would like to take my jack plane on a date with my wife, but she gets jealous. She says I can't keep my hands off of it. Always flattening tables at restaurants and whatnot. I like your video. It is good to know basics of jointing edges with a hand plane. I would hang myself if I had to hand joint all of my projects, but it's still a great skill to have. Good job mate.
Thanks! I really don't find it too bad. I'm slow in the video because I'm teaching, but in my actual work, I'm pretty quick.
Now that's how you do it. Time and care. Not a lot of gimmick machinery.
9:13 can't blame a lady who appreciates her husband's well calibrated tools.
I like your direct, articulate, thorough and well-explained approach, with just the right amount of humor. I also like the content, which introduced a traditional method without overwhelming the level of woodworker you're targeting with a shop full of traditional hand tools, or a video full of 'plane snobbery'. A real Goldilocks approach ('just right'), which is strange considering no 'locks' were seen in the video! Subscribing.
Hey! You kind of just summed up everything I'm trying to do. Thanks!
Why would anyone vote down this video?!?! Great educational vid, thank you!
I built a table saw jig. Takes about 60 seconds to edge plane. Run it through the crosscut sled for the edge, then thickness planer. Bam, perfect board in about 10 minutes.
Thank you for mentioning rotating the board instead of flipping it.
I want to point out that it is easier to straighten a short board than a long one.
Rex is straightening a pretty long board. My projects rarely end up using boards that long.
Consider crosscutting boards down to near final length then milling them. There should be far less wood to remove.