Massad Ayoob waxes political about machine guns, self defense
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2014
- www.guns.com/2014/04/27/massad... - Famed firearm instructor and consultant Massad Ayoob talks shop at the National Rifle Association annual convention in Indianapolis. For more information, check out www.guns.com
I could listen to Mr Ayoob speak for hours. I have never disagreed with anything I've heard him say and have learned many, many things from him through reading and watching him.
True Born Son Of Liberty I was gonna basically say the same thing. He’s a national treasure who’s saved lives and jobs, period. Everything that leaves his mouth is pure wisdom!
There's no way to disagree with anything he says. It's all just plain common sense, backed by facts and articulated in a crystal-clear manner.
Massad Ayoob is the go-to Guy when it comes to sane, safe and practical ownership and use of guns. Anyone notice: the major newspapers and major TV networks never use Ayoob as a source for ANYTHING? Tells you what their agenda is and it sure ain't about properly informing the public.
With Mas for your expert and Evan Nappen for an attorney your odds of not going to prison go up immensely.
What a truly amazing man Massad is!! Hope he lives a looooong life, world needs men like him. God bless.
I felt like that at first but think about it he does NOTHING to fix these problems he addresses cause that would put him out of a well paid job
He is a true professional and I'm a big fan of Masad Ayoob ..
Once upon a time I owned an NFA Registered 1928 Thompson. My friends would joke that if anyone broke into my house would get 'machine gunned'. Wrong. My TSMG was the LAST of my firearms I would have used for home defense. As I said, if I put 9 .33 caliber holes (one round of 00 Buck) into a burglar, no one would care. If I put ONE round of .45 ACP from the Thompson into the same burglar, I'd be on nightly news as the 'homeowner who machine gunned the burglar.'
Mas Ayoob you are a true living classic man. Seems as though everything that you cover just makes ..... sense. I hope Mas lives forever.
priceless advice. I wish I knew what Mas has forgotten in life.
I'm pretty sure if he has forgotten anything about weapons or protecting oneself it only went into the discard pile on purpose.
What a gem of a man. Good dude, doing good things, for good people. Love it!!
Ayoob is one of the smartest (if not the smartest) guys in the gun world. He makes some good points here. You never want to seem aggressive or over prepared. You want to be over prepared without looking like it lol.
+100 Ayoob is the guy who inspired me to get into the business. He knows his stuff is a grave understatement.
+Gunscom He doesn't just know his stuff, he basically invented the stuff the smart guys know.
He's a marketing genius who took a gig as a part time cop and turned it into a lucrative business.
Listening to Mr. Ayoob feels therapeutic for me.
Mr. Ayoob, please testify before congress in support for the repeal of the Hughes Amendment and possibly the entire NFA.
Massed adobo is a great cop who can speak clearly on any topic that other cops agree but have a tough time expressing them. As a retired swat cop, I admire Mr. Ayoob. If you are interested in hearing the absolute truth on any phase of constitutional law regarding the use of force by police, click on his name.
Massad is so sensible in his recommendations, as they come from his extensive experience in studying self-defense shootings. Like he says, better that you don't have the Punisher skull adorning your self-defense firearm, lest you find yourself in the crosshairs of an overzealous prosecutor. Is it your RIGHT to decorate your gun? Sure, but that doesn't make it a wise choice.
Massad Ayoob for President!
Great video thanks for your truthfulness and your professionalism to both of you thank you
WHY does this pop into my Recommended feed 5 friggin years later??? Has someone made a meme of Mas' "Cobra - HAHHHH"? LOL Great info from Mas, as usual. Thanks.
Great video. Massad is a great speaker and knows what he's talking about about when it comes to trials especially!
Hey that's the burst review dude
Massad is a damn fine instructor, glad I took MAG-40.
Some really awesome sound, and down to earth advice.
That Car Analogy Was Spot On...
Thank you Mr. Ayoob for your many efforts to educate people like me. You have an almost unique range of experience from police duty, to competitive shooting, to teaching and writing; and you are a great communicator. I have never heard a better justification for AR rifles and high capacity magazines (for home defense use) than you have given. I wish the NRA would recruit you as an expert on this subject. The constant butting of heads between them and the Democrats goes nowhere. The case you make for this weapon for home defense is extremely easy to understand. In other videos you make the case for eliminating gun-free-zones to avoid mass shootings. If others (liberals) could hear these points, perhaps we could move in a positive direction. I guess one problem is that the left does not see your videos, and they take the NRA arguments as self-serving. I thank you for your clear and articulate communications.
I carried the 500 S&W revolver because it only loads 5 "bullets". That is half the quantity the most ignoring of states allow.
Mr Massad is certainly a great help!
Massad is pointing out how to avoid being your own worst enemy if you every have to face charges and then face a jury.
Thank you
I know I am late getting to the video.
But he has been one of the very few people that I have looked up to.
I started read some of his work before I stared as a cop. He was one of the reasons I wanted to be cop.
A few years back I had the chance to take a class with my cousin. I had already taken it before so I declined.
When he got back from it. He said as a surprise speaker Mr. A. Was there. I would have taken the class over if I would have known
LoL.
I have read him since the 1970s. O find him very insightful.
Still a WISE man. Many others would have succumb to less practical and more fanciful advice over the years - great job Massad.
My two favorites: Massad Ayoob and Dwight Shrute!
I have read Massod Ayoob since we were both in our 20s.
My problem with both machine guns and suppressors for defense is that neither really seems appropriate. I am not against civilian access and ownership to these things, I just don't see them as well suited for personal defense. Machine guns are really useful for fire and maneuver, where they can suppress an objective so that others can move on it. This is an offensive action, and soldiers will not be held accountable for every single round that they fire like a civilian defender. Your goal as a defender is not to suppress an objective, but to neutralize a specific threat as quickly and efficiently as possible, with the knowledge beforehand that you will be held fully accountable in court for everything you do. Ripping off automatic weapons inside urban areas is almost always going to be irresponsible when third party injury or death, and wanton destruction of property, can't simply be written off as collateral damage in the fog of war. And as for suppressors, personally, if I am shooting at someone, I want them to know they fucked up. I want there to be noise and blast, I want them to think the gates of hell are crashing open to swallow them whole. I want to know my neighbors heard. I want to know the cops have been called. Again, no problem with ownership or access. I just don't foresee many situations where either suppressors or fully automatic weapons are particularly useful for defense.
Firing a Fully-Automatic weapon regarding a rifle is to be used only in 2 Scenarios.
1). Close, Near and or Hasty Ambush via the L Formation.
2). taking up the sustained rate of fire when the M-Six Zero is being reloaded or switching out barrels.
**Go easy on the gates of hell stuff dude.
3:59 *shoulder thing that goes up*
The 2nd Amendment does not restrict the configuration of the weapons the people can hold or have. See " Fully Informed Jury" by Red Beckman. Also see a video Know Your Constitution by Carl Miller . Sheeple ,just go out to pasture.
+TheFirefox8192 Spot on - you are quite correct. I find it best to know the law, so get a copy of the applicable firearms laws you need to know free from he ATF or the US Government printing office. Read it, understand it, and follow it to the letter.
Is this filmed at Indianapolis Convention Center. Love Massad btw
salute
It's a shame that in such an important video, that cameraman didn't use a simple earphone and MONITOR your audio in !
Well we will all survive won't we and please belly ache and moan to some other forum, Thanks.
He's got that look.
The master speaks, and you should listen
His police looking for some one story is kinda funny. The way things are done differently in different places in the country.
Back after I got hurt. Ga. State patrol came to my father's in law's farm. I was at his cabin with 2 broken legs. My wife was at work. The knocked I told them to open the door. They told me 2 inmates ran from the road gang that was working a few miles away. And they were letting everyone know. Well I ask them to hand me my 45 off the shelf. He did and also handed me the mag pouch for just in case.
They came back later to make sure someone was home with me and checked in for the next 3 days untill the inmates were cought.
Outstanding story, how life should be. I will be visiting GA soon and didn't make it down for Turkey Day.
A LEO once told me to if at all possible use the same ammunition as either you local police department or your county sheriff's department...see what they carry, and whats authorized for carry. If you are taken to trial you can basically say its the same thing as what police officers use to defend themselves not some baby killing bullet like the media or some crooked prosecutor might try and twist it as. Obviously this assumes your Local/County PD uses a caliber you use (some authorize multiple calibers however) but still.
While I agree with that and have heard that also, who's to say that the prosecutor wouldn't pull the "but you're not a cop argument", and thus having the idiot, brainwashed, and anti gun jurors think the same way. The ammo I use, while it may not be the exact (maybe it is I don't know) ammo that my local cops carry, is used nationwide heavily by Police. Speer, federal Hst , and Remington golden saber bonded. Three very common hollowpoints used by LE.
good thinking. I agree with the other poster that it may get turned around on you, but I think the odds of it being in your favor are better. thanks for the tip.
aran125 The key phrase in allot of regulation and gun control has been a weapon or device or ammunition that is "in common usage". Its useful in court, honestly I could probably spin allot of arguments around but you can't go wrong with what your local LEO's use as well as nationally recognized brands and specific loads.
Very true, it's just unfortunate that most of the idiot jurors won't know that, mainly because many of them are most definitely anti gun. The prosecutor's in knowing that is why they try to pull that bullshit with the hollowpoints because it can possibly make their case stronger. In the end if you have a good criminal defense atty that specializes in self defense shootings and if you truly were justified in pulling the trigger, then I don't feel it's a huge deal. Lawyers will he lawyers.
+nateo200 Good ideas all. I am a retired LEO and have been carrying a handgun for over 40 years. Ayoob is one of the finest minds in the world about weapons use and the law, as well as self-defense.
I would suggest that the term "Hollow Point" (as others have said (not you) NOT BE USED. It's called a "controlled expansion round". Why? To prevent or limit downrange liability. To a jury hollow point sounds like you were out to kill. FMJ ammo can and may over penetrate and go through a subject, then a wall, and wound a family member or an innocent neighbor. Zombie Bullets, fantasy bull droppings.
Don't elucidate aggression, and don't make statements that WILL make you appear to be 'bloodthirsty'. Don't make ANY statements without your lawyer.
HAVE shooter's insurance, even if you're an active LEO. Your city/county/state will have an attorney for you. But THEY PAY HIM, you don't, so their interest is in limiting the city/county/state liability. They will throw you under the bus if they have to - usually not - but a guy (or woman) YOU pay HAS to legally look out for you first.
And without a doubt, Ayoob does know his stuff. Hopefully, you won't need to even draw, but if you do, you shoot only to stop the threat, not to kill
A jury's perception of your actions can be shaped by any statement(s) you make, so don't make any without your lawyer.Cops, non-Cops have the same right not to make statements that may incriminate themselves as everyone else. Keep quiet until you have a lawyer present. It's a Constitutional right. For everyone.
Part of what Ayoob is saying here is all about PERCEPTION by a prosecutor or a jury, and the wrong perception can fry your butt in court. I agree, DON't have a "Punisher" logo on your gun. If you're in the "Sandbox", no problem, it's a psychological weapon against the enemy in WAR... But not stateside.
Great points. To further expand upon his point you as a civilian are not trained to use a fully automatic weapon for self defense.
I wish more people where this intelligent.
Perception is reality
No, It's not reality until IT's Reality.
This is why I have a S&W Model 10 - the ultimate police revolver & loaded with the old FBI load. More than enough for the real world.
A solid combination for sure.
I buy the PDX-1 Defenders because they are FBI-approved and issued. Always use what cops use if at all possible.
Good move. 1960s/70s TV police gun almost guaranteed not to frighten liberals or make you look like a Rambo/Dirty Harry/klucker/ ' militia nitwit' .
About 30 years ago, the Police pulled a criminal out of my backyard. He had housejacked my old neighbor a couple doors down, somebody called the Police on the unfamiliar individual, and he fled and hid in my yard at night behind my garage. I had seen lights flashing around outside, and cracked my side door open to acknowledge the officers and see what was happening, and the officer asked me to unlock the gate, so he could exit with the cuffed criminal, which I did.
There is another issue where juries take a dim view of a justifiable self defense case and that is where the defender uses an edged weapon to defend themselves.
Yes and this as been brewing for 5 years and more. The Romans may have been the first to outlaw the Sword and history generally repeats its self.
The appearance issue is why I use a wood stocked blued steel min 14. It looks like a " regular" firearm.
So true, Mas. A gun with "combat.........cobra..............python......" etc is the equivalent of wearing a KKK hood or a ' kill-em-all' t-shirt to court.
Anyone familiar with the case he refers to with the AC556?.. They 'blur' out the guys last name and I would like to know more about this incident
Gary Fadden
Finally someone with lots of common sense.
The government is ENJOINED from placing infringements on the people's right to "arms" whatsoever. It's absolutely outside their lawful Subject Matter Jurisdiction as applied to lawful uses and purposes. I mean, if the Constitution really means what it says. If you look up the legal definitions of the words used in the 2nd Amendment, it also supports that conclusion. An historical review of the founder's own writings on the subject is clear in supporting that view. Our governments are criminal because they're prima facie guilty of the crimes of FELONY USURPATION of Rights and Violation of Oath of Office, as a minimum.
I love Massad
How about competing at least a couple of times a year with your rifle or handgun? That way when you testify you can say "...I picked up my competition rifle...". If you do that then all the features, magazines, muzzle breaks, shoulder thing which goes up etc. are justified by the sport and they just happened to be on the gun at the time.
Hey, it's my favorite beet farmer!
Perhaps, my favorite Lead Farmer.
2:57 Mas should play a snake, that cobra was spot-on.
I would rather explain to a jury why I had Zombie bullets then have to face a pack of Zombies with inadequate fire power.
hmmm. the colt arms "katydid knocker"... the "rabbit runner?"
That’s ‘Mister Ayoob’ to you buddy
Where is the carpet from? Mexico City?
Point of information: in First Blood, John Rambo doesn't kill anyone. He's a model for civilian gun ownership.
+Catcrumbs Bringing up "First Blood" in court will only serve to help put you in jail. It's FICTION, not even written after any true event. Stick to facts and the law as Mr. Ayoob does. Referring to films, even documentaries, can get you deeper into problems than you were before. What John Rambo did or does in a movie is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
John Mood
Objection, your honour: this is RUclips, not a court of law.
STFU, you aren't even old enough to own, buy, or possess a firearm child.
John mood did he bring up anything about bringing this up in court maybe stop calling people names and telling them to shut the fuck up when you didn't even have the ability to read or understand the statement that he made
I’m very disappointed in POM pepper spray for their baseball bat labeled “not for baseball”. Ridiculous for these reasons. A baseball bat is a deadly weapon people.
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In Illinois I can not own either, a fully auto rifle, and sbr, a suppressor or anything like that.
+Sam Brentwood Under Federal Law, with the right documentary stamps, fees, and paperwork, you CAN and may, but Illinois law is FUBAR.... Always check your local laws and ordinances so you don't run afoul. Those local laws MAY be illegal, but contesting that is expensive, and may require hundreds of thousands of dollars to refute and overturn. You and I don't have that kind of cash.... And the NRA may or may not - most often NOT come to your aid, even if you're a member.
Sam Brentwood then leave that shithole!
You can, you just have to pay enough.
So if a district attorney calls me a gangster do I get to sue them and the state for defamation of character and a public apology retracting there erroneous comments? This was a rhetorical question!
So a Thompson machine gun with a drum full of Black Talons would be ill advised? Dang.
My comment is made by the inverse argument... why should the Soldier have an automatic individual defensive weapon and the citizen should not, as no difference exists in the other shoe test as to the fit of the first and second clauses of the 2nd Amendment as to over hundred years old technology far removed from any state of the art. We are not talking here whether a many scores of billionaire can possess for his defense a state of the art air wing of the F-35 for his personal defense, where the fit would arguably be much less.
Most people, believe "AR 15" stands for "assault rifle". It's pretty scary to hear him reference cases where the prosecutor uses the name(Colt python) to demonize the weapons.
When you say "It's Legal", you should be saying that "It's Legal, for the rich". Most people can't afford the many price tags the government has imposed on Fully Automatic Weapons and Silencers. We're just free wool to them.
The only thing I use for home defense is my Tommy Gun.
Dwight..
2:35 If a Remington 870 would have worked in an extreme situation like that, why does any civilian need an assault rifle? A twenty gauge with buckshot has more knockdown power than an AR15 so... maybe for the same reason some people need a commuter car that can go 200mph. Because it's a toy.
Because not EVERYONE can actually handle an 870 shotgun in emergency defence situation BUT most people can actually handle the .223/5.56 AR platform much easier as it's recoil and muzzle rise is much less. And AR won't bruise the shoulder of a 4 f 11" female who's 95lbs where an 870 pump WILL. ALSO as he stated something they HAVE to hold two handed may make them less able to defend themselves.
MewTwoKing loves guns
Not very many people know this but Massad used to do the voice for Mr. Ed the talking horse.
that's some random fact. Sort of like how uncle Phil did the voice of shredder
+Roy Jiminez No way!...I was just watching Mr. Ed this morning with my kids...
Yes, and Mr. Ed used to conceal carry also.
+Roy Jimenez Not true. Allan "Rocky" Lane was the voice of Mr. Ed.
Jesus Christ this info is old and wrong lead LEO clause is no more up date these with a dialogue box at least.
Machine guns are effectively outlawed. No new machine guns are allowed to be manufactured for civilians increasing the costs of buying machine guns beyond the means of most people, plus the $200 tax, etc.
I agree with Masaad, but he is speaking to the choir.
So, my AR is flat out; guess my go to will be my shotgun - no wait! It's an 870 express TACTICAL; well i guess that's out too. OK, good to go with my Glock - oh no! It's a 43 X - & everyone knows that X means DANGEROUS! Damn, that X factor excludes my p365, too. Hmm; the m&p 340? Nope - it's chambered in .357 MAGNUM! Well, that wittles it down to my modest 442 (though i'm sure that there are plenty of knit wits who could be led to believe that 442 is some kind of ultra-radical racist militia code), lol.
The machine gun tax stamp act which did away with most rates to full automatic weapons now you have to have NFA an onerous process to me fully automatic select fire full auto means basically either suppress the fire to suppress or basically just a waste of bullets for suppression fire I’ve used it before but I basically I prefer a semi auto I don’t like wasting bullets but dumb yeah you know the marijuana tax stamp act was actually patterned based on the machine gun tax stamp act that was done to do it with our first amendment rights and have the government tell us to smoke noxious chemicals like cigarettes and for videos from exercising our first amendment rights to smoke
Not the shoulder thing that goes up! I laughed at that one. Mas is even knowledgeable about the diarrhea of the mouth of the McCarthy types ...
ThanksUn
Adam Lanza was never born.
Excuse me, yes the man was born, did have mental issues and did kill him mom and break almost a dozen laws to shoot up the school. There was no conspiracy. Sorry your deluded mind bought that crap. It proved that laws don't stop criminals and that proper mental health measures are not set in place.
@@MonzaRacer If he had a better home nurturing environment and wasn't on any mind-altering, mood-altering meds that tragedy would've been averted.
@@nunereclipsereborn The incident Did Not happen at that is a FACT.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT IT WAS A HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😡😠
@@nunereclipsereborn I have no advice for you and good luck.
My chihuahua looks just like Massad Ayoob.
But Zombies are not real ! So if you have zombie bullets you only want to kill something not real, like paper targets ! tjl
When will this tired old man just go away?
Machine guns? Grow up people, just grow up.
I used to be a fan of Ayoob, until I watched this video. If he really thinks we should be allowed to have fully automatic weapons, he's insane.
Rocky Finkhouse actually he’s not insane. Our constitution was written to preserve and protect our God given rights and that includes any kind of weapon. I didn’t hear him say we should be allowed to commit crimes of any sort with any kind of weapon. I agree that some people shouldn’t probably have full automatic weapons but the government is SUPPOSED to protect our rights to do so. I don’t think lots of people should own cars either but they do. Or make comments contrary to our constitution, but they do. I will stand up for your right to do that but I sure as hell don’t agree with you. You might not understand that this country won it’s freedom and independence as the result of an oppressive government’s attempt to disarm us
@@smokysantana damn good writing sir.
Jordan Smith thank you very much.
Rocky Finkhouse fudd. You’re on the wrong side.
Well, we are embracing one of your less random smart moments. Full Auto regarding Ak's or the M-One 6 is kind Of like an Automatic Transmission in your car and mine. Any questions, let me know in around 10 hours b/c I just drank around 15 Buds with some most excellent dispensary weed with the veterans discount.
I don't agree with anyone owning a suppressor. Reason is that poachers can use them to kill animals, mainly deer at night with impunity. However, if a shot is heard the poacher will be found out and caught hopefully. Also, it can be used by killers in a public area with many people present and they would not hear the report of the weapon. I see no need for such a device by anyone.
Well, poachers in Africa are the one's that should be shot on site. Killing the Elephants and Rhinos for their Ivory Tusks Field Expedient execution is Warranted on the spot in my book.