Thanks to Technical Jump for reminding me that coasters can of course also derail on banked level to gentle and gentle to level track pieces. The speed limits for these are the same as for the unbanked pieces.
Hah! Reminds me of the time a friend and I went to Alton Towers (UK) to ride the then very new Revolution (first corkscrew in the UK). We were on our way somewhere else and only called at Alton Towers on the way, especially to ride the Revolution, so we were there early, as the ride was going through a few test runs at the start of the day. It was run round empty a couple of times and then with plastic sacks of gravel in some of the seats. (The sacks were plastic ones like you'd buy from a garden centre or home improvements store.) Anyhow, one of the sacks flew out of the car on a turn, hit the ground and burst. My friend took an awful lot of persuading to go on the ride after that happened. He eventually accepted that the restraints weren't designed for bags of gravel and we did ride it that morning.
Me too then I went to a water park and my arse came off the bottom when on one of those slides. Thankfully I didn't get hurt or come out of the dinghy entirely but it was scary.
nah dude you should be, people have literally been killed on them IRL because of hitting their head. a park near where i live had a kid killed a few years back from this exact thing. Fuck slides.
Guest# 1232 got decapitated on dinghy slide tunnel 2nd slope. Park rating now at 587 from 600. Free soda coupon for next 3 weeks. Park rating back to 600. Crisis averted.
@@AdrianDX it does if you run out of money and don’t finish the track. But it also ballasts the rides when you test them like in real so you know how it behaves with a load
@@mugrides6177 I don't even think it does tbh. In the standard version of Planet Coaster, if you don't finish a track you can still run it. But you typically have to test coasters before opening them unlike RCT. But if a coaster flys off the unfinished track or two cars crash into one another, it won't let you open the ride. Now there are different guest "sizes" in the game, you have some guests that look larger, you got your "thick" moms and dads, chunky lil brats, but I don't think this effects anything. Guests appearances don't seem to have weight variable on coasters or rides. Like how there isn't a "gluttony" variable with larger guests - as offensive as it sounds, It'd make sense if larger guests were more prone to purchasing multiple food/drink items and constantly being hungry. Lmao.. But basically no derailing or anything in Planet Coaster even if you have a car full of 'larger' guests on a coaster going 1000mph through a mountain making a deep dive and sharp turn.
As a SimThemePark/Theme Park World player, neither do I. Heck, the rides work even if the track literally flies through anything other than itself - terrain, shops, other rides, etc, it only does collision checks against its own track.
@@mugrides6177 makes sense but at the same time the point is that as much as I love and have loved RCT2 that’s something that always frustrated me. If PC doesn’t bother to really simulate the ride empty I’d rather that if I can properly test it before using it. If engineers are testing a ride they will do so under the conditions it operates in which includes a full load up to it’s designed capacity as well as possibly empty as well. This video shows partly why in some cases although there are also many other reasons why they ballast for tests and examples of people getting killed when they haven’t done such properly
There was a real life dinghy ride called verruckt. They noticed the trains were flying off the track so they added a tunnel piece but a guest got decapitated. True story it was in kansas
Here is a great 9min documentary on Verruckt, its development and tragedy. Incredibly well produced video that includes tons of foreshadowing dialogue. You know it’s scary when after a test they say “good one!” even though rides should perform consistently. m.ruclips.net/video/ulIcekOTOqg/видео.html
@@eriklakeland3857 Thank you, that doc wastes no time being terrifying. It's simultaneously baffling, heartbreaking, and infuriating how they acted around the test track. Didn't expect it to be quite that graphic though, so proceed with caution everyone. D:
I wonder if there's actually a mod that simulates your introduction: having to sign paperwork on criminal/accidental negligience on your rides resulting in derailing and death, as well as having a short segment where you appear in court to try and defend yourself from the maximum penalty. I know it was a joke, but honestly, it would make the game more tense in a strange way, like an unexpected random challenge.
Trains can also derail when it runs past the end of it. I remember testing custom powered launch coasters as a kid. I would slowly up the launch speeds as high as it could without crashing during test mode just to have it crash when loaded with heavy guests. That must be the first time I realized guests make the coaster faster. Great video on these more challenging ride types!
Also subsequent trains can have different varieties of guests on them, so they can be heavier and go even faster. So even if you test it once with guests and it doesn't quite fly off the tracks and you think it's fine and open it up, train 37 can be heavier and fly off and crash.
1:55 Really interesting point about only having to worry about the speed of the first car in the train, wasn't aware of this and really useful to know, thanks!
@@mugrides6177 Apparently none of the cars are attached to the track but the back cars are attached to the front cars in a way that prohibits derailing?
RCT3 had this problem with waterslides. Can't remember which of the scenarios it was, but I had to tunnel like half the turns to make it work, which interrupted their view of the mountain they were sliding down. I was super proud of that design, too, because I spent like 3 days of computer time making it look good (ofc this was when I was a kid). Also I made a "testing" coaster that just went off the rails right into the most crowded path of the park. Guests didn't seem to mind, though.
I remember playing Razor Rocks many many years ago and building an awesome Wooden Reverser Coaster. It worked quite well for months on end, until one day I heard the explosion and the message saying it had crashed. I was wondering how that happened and it turns out that just the right combination of guests and their weight had made it so the train would derail at a slope near the end. So I had to alter the track slightly higher which in turn involved changing how the ending went and it lost a few points of excitement in the process but at least it wouldn't derail ever again. So yeah, lesson learned. Always make the slope one height unit higher than you think you need.
3:39 - I always imagined the dinghies flying up and having the guests get their head knocked into the top of the tunnel, and if so it certainly does have a more impactful effect. 😀 ...I'll get my coat. 4:17 - Oh, that was already the joke. Me and my coat are staying then.
This just reminded me of the weirdest bug I encountered when I played RCT1. I was playing the Aqua Park campaign and for whatever reason after a certain time the big dingy slide in the park would start crashing with the dingies suddenly falling through the slide at a particular steep drop. Just replacing the spot that had issues did nothing (doing a test run had the dingies still fall through), so I got very good at rebuilding that exact dingy slide layout. Once rebuilt it was fine until enough time went by and it started crashing again at the same spot. It was the weirdest thing.
There's a scenario where after some time, one of the coasters that came with the park will enter the station and explode. Wonder if the coasters get slightly faster over time, or if it's a bug or something. It works fine every time before and after that incident.
@@dakat5131 I know the one you're talking about, it's "Claustrophobia" in Diamond Heights. That is intentional behavior in the game. It happens when the ride has the "brakes failure" breakdown.
I guess there is always something I forget in a video. The speed limits for those pieces appear to be the same as for the unbanked pieces, so I hope that people will assume that it does include banking.
I like your videos because I learn things I never knew in the decade and some change that I've played these games. Didn't know bobsleighs don't crash on turns or that tunnels prevent the dinghy from crashing. Very useful information I could have used years ago 😅
Heh, when I was a kid I used to think the Virginia Reel could also fly off the track like the side friction coasters or the dinghy slides... pretty common misconception IME
Yeah you're definitely not the only one who had that misconception. Even though I did know it I tested the Virginia Reel for this video just in case it could actually derail.
@@MarcelVos You would think that Chris Sawyer thought about the Virginia reel flying off the track but then he was like nah, isn't too realistic. I think what kept it from flying off, is they are heavier than side friction cars, look at Blackpool old Reel for example.
I used to be afraid that a bobsled coaster on a banked track would slip and fall off if it was going too slow. It never happened of course but I always made sure to get a bit of speed before doing a banked section.
I need more Marcel Vos videos in my life! Can you do a video about the economy of shops and stalls? How many should I have in my park, how far away from one another, what prices, etc
I'll add my voice to this request. Also whether any of them are better or worse than others in any way? (For instance I'm pretty sure coffee gives the guests an energy boost.)
I'd love to see a video breaking down crashes more generally - under what circumstances rides crash, how the penalty to park rating works in the days and months following a crash, how a crash affects guests' willingness to ride a ride which has recently crashed, and (most importantly) how to prevent crashes. When I was younger I would never make rollercoasters with more than one train because I was afraid of the dreaded Station Brakes Failure, but obviously that severely limits throughput. Keep the great videos coming!
"Don't you absolutely hate it when you build a bobsled coaster and it crashes because it takes a hill at too high a speed? If there are any guests in the train they will all perish which creates alot of annoying paperwork and also potential losses. you just don't want to deal with that." i'd use soundbite of Spiffing Brit's "unless you do" this is very reminiscent of the kind of intro he'd do, great sense of humor from both creators offcourse. Glad to see at least something i can look at whilst analyzing my latest massacre that was entirely "accidental" (because it was designed that way and i cant test ride with ghosts - crash even in tests mean scrap and start again).
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I always wondered why my coasters which turned corners fine in test mode would randomly derail months after their completion, I never thought the guest weight would be enough to make it go over that threshold, thanks!
I'm quite certain I got the Bobsleigh Coaster to derail in a turn in RCT1. Or maybe it was indeed an upslope after the turn, but anyway, it resulted in each car being ejected in a different direction, so that may be what makes it feel like it is the turn that does it.
The fast turn derailing only affects 2 coasters? Weird I feel like as a kid I saw that more often, but I am probably mistaken. Still, Thanks for the awesome and helpful video!
Does anyone know what number RCT uses for the coefficient of gravity? Is it something realistic but also computer-friendly like 9.8125, or did they round to 10? I am trying to design safe rides for tricky ride types like the ghost train and side-friction coaster.
Was I the only person who initially thought derailing trains was gonna be a video about derailing monorails and the trains in game not the other normal rides... anyways great video as always :)
It's really glade to see so many people are still playing this game. I just picked up this game several weeks ago, and want to Learn how to do it for real, cause I never tried to build a good park when I was a kid. I’ve learned so many things from this channel, thank you. This game really deserve a remaster, even now I am still shocked by the details in this game.
*Reporter* : ...So Marcel, out of everything you love about RCT, please god tell us, what is your favorite thing of all time about it? *MarcelVos* : 3:22
What will happen, when you build these rides (partially) underground? Does this have the same effect as the tube around the dinghy slide or will they still derail?
Can you use covered track pieces to prevent crashes on the side friction coaster by changing the ride type to dinghy in openRCT2 then filling in the blank track with copied tiles?
Technically, any coaster can also derail on open end of the tracks, but it is obviously so obvious, that I understand why you didn't mention it. I remember how little 10-or-so old me found out that the trains with guest are faster than the empty ones. I built the classic design for accelerated launch mode: station->looping->hill. I made the hill only long enough so the test train would go to the very end of the tracks. Then I opened the ride for guests.
Hey, aren't you involved in OpenRCT2 development or is that just Deurklink? I'm curious if it's possible to add a feature where the weight of trains can be changed so there are far more layouts you can make. I'd love to put some lead plates in the wild mice type rides as they lose velocity way too fast. Probably should have some reliability decay penalty due mechanic strain if you make it heavier than factory settings. Bonus if you make it lighter I guess?
In RCT1, I recall the Bobsleigh coaster detailing on turns. I remember building a bobsleigh coaster on Razor Rocks, and towards the end of the ride, it was going well over 40mph, and it flew off the track. This might have been changed in RCT2.
I just did a test in RCT1 and had a bobsled coaster take small turns at 90 km/h and helixes at up to 70 km/h and it was fine both times. I think you, like everyone else, is misremebering.
Basing on what you said, this sounds like you placed a drop after the station. When the bobsled coaster had a brake failure, the train flew off the drop like the station was never existing.
Thanks to Technical Jump for reminding me that coasters can of course also derail on banked level to gentle and gentle to level track pieces. The speed limits for these are the same as for the unbanked pieces.
Don’t mention it to him :)
This is often where the confusion about turns come in. The vehicle is actually crashing on these pieces, not the turn pieces.
>Guest weight effects speed
Is this why the 'Dynamite Blaster' roller coaster in 'Dynamite Dunes' always eventually crashes?
@@blah40000 That is probably because some kind of breakdown rather than guest weight.
@@blah40000 A safety cut off where one train's stuck on the lift hill near the bottom's the probable cause
Hey, who filled all these gravity-powered coaster cars with highly explosive gasoline?
Teenage Micheal Bay.
And the dinghies on the Dinghy slides are filled with pure oxygen
Oh boy, you're going to lose it when you hear what the minigolf clubs are made out of
@@ChromeBirb MAGNESIUM
@@TeemoQuinton wait, grass have heat?
Schrödingers guest:
While in the tunnel they are alive and dead at the same time. So breaking a neck isn't a problem.
The creator of water slide Verrückt: Heh.
Action park solutions
@@jvccr7533 that slide was about 25 minutes away from my house. I knew people who worked at the park and they were like yeah don't ever ride it
@@jvccr7533 As a German person that ride name is accurate.
You have to be verrückt to make such a ride.
@@Ze_eT Todesfalle would be even more accurate. How anyone thought this was an acceptable ride...
3:10 POV: You just witnessed the train ahead of you explode to your left. You are still climbing the hill.
LMFAO
It would be nice if RCT had a “test with sand bags” option so the train was heavier in test mode.
This would be pretty good as thats how real life rollercoasters are tested
That was the exact wording I was gonna use coming to the comments lol, "variable sandbag mode"
Sandbags and/or water dummies.
Hah! Reminds me of the time a friend and I went to Alton Towers (UK) to ride the then very new Revolution (first corkscrew in the UK). We were on our way somewhere else and only called at Alton Towers on the way, especially to ride the Revolution, so we were there early, as the ride was going through a few test runs at the start of the day. It was run round empty a couple of times and then with plastic sacks of gravel in some of the seats. (The sacks were plastic ones like you'd buy from a garden centre or home improvements store.)
Anyhow, one of the sacks flew out of the car on a turn, hit the ground and burst. My friend took an awful lot of persuading to go on the ride after that happened. He eventually accepted that the restraints weren't designed for bags of gravel and we did ride it that morning.
I love how the rubber boats explodes when they touch something that is not the track piece
I will definitely use this guide a lot to "avoid" derailing. It would be "a shame" if some guests were to die in a derailing accident.
Saying you had a chainlift that accelerates the dinghy to 100kph had me cracking up no joke
@@NachoCheesus or a looping dinghy, I talk to you "action park"
Just to make sure that ride has a good excitement rating
There are some water slides in real life that launch rafts out of the station, but they aren't your standard innertube slides.
0:50 was a beautiful synchronized doom ride
You’re a champ, Marcel
Disclaimer: many peeps were harmed during the making of this video
Meanwhile you were awarded a safest park award for your park.
There's nothing in the world like Action Park!
I was so afraid of dinghy slides as a kid because of what I saw happen to guests in my RCT2 parks.
You should be afraid!
Me too then I went to a water park and my arse came off the bottom when on one of those slides. Thankfully I didn't get hurt or come out of the dinghy entirely but it was scary.
nah dude you should be, people have literally been killed on them IRL because of hitting their head. a park near where i live had a kid killed a few years back from this exact thing.
Fuck slides.
@@CoffeeKitty. Kansas City by chance? Schlitterbahn comes to mind.
Guest# 1232 got decapitated on dinghy slide tunnel 2nd slope.
Park rating now at 587 from 600.
Free soda coupon for next 3 weeks.
Park rating back to 600.
Crisis averted.
As a Planet Coaster player, I have no idea what "derailing" means.
Hold on. PC doesn’t have derailing?😨
@@AdrianDX it does if you run out of money and don’t finish the track. But it also ballasts the rides when you test them like in real so you know how it behaves with a load
@@mugrides6177 I don't even think it does tbh. In the standard version of Planet Coaster, if you don't finish a track you can still run it. But you typically have to test coasters before opening them unlike RCT. But if a coaster flys off the unfinished track or two cars crash into one another, it won't let you open the ride.
Now there are different guest "sizes" in the game, you have some guests that look larger, you got your "thick" moms and dads, chunky lil brats, but I don't think this effects anything. Guests appearances don't seem to have weight variable on coasters or rides. Like how there isn't a "gluttony" variable with larger guests - as offensive as it sounds, It'd make sense if larger guests were more prone to purchasing multiple food/drink items and constantly being hungry. Lmao..
But basically no derailing or anything in Planet Coaster even if you have a car full of 'larger' guests on a coaster going 1000mph through a mountain making a deep dive and sharp turn.
As a SimThemePark/Theme Park World player, neither do I. Heck, the rides work even if the track literally flies through anything other than itself - terrain, shops, other rides, etc, it only does collision checks against its own track.
@@mugrides6177 makes sense but at the same time the point is that as much as I love and have loved RCT2 that’s something that always frustrated me. If PC doesn’t bother to really simulate the ride empty I’d rather that if I can properly test it before using it. If engineers are testing a ride they will do so under the conditions it operates in which includes a full load up to it’s designed capacity as well as possibly empty as well. This video shows partly why in some cases although there are also many other reasons why they ballast for tests and examples of people getting killed when they haven’t done such properly
2:40
I love how this ride has been designed so the people going up the chain lift can see what they are about to experience.
"This is fine."
5:10 The guests can't puke if they're dead. *taps forehead*
"Yeah, you got severe neck trauma but at least you're not dead."
There was a real life dinghy ride called verruckt. They noticed the trains were flying off the track so they added a tunnel piece but a guest got decapitated. True story it was in kansas
That wasn't a full tunnel, just some netting. The poles holding it up causing the decapitation.
Here is a great 9min documentary on Verruckt, its development and tragedy. Incredibly well produced video that includes tons of foreshadowing dialogue. You know it’s scary when after a test they say “good one!” even though rides should perform consistently. m.ruclips.net/video/ulIcekOTOqg/видео.html
@@eriklakeland3857 Thank you, that doc wastes no time being terrifying. It's simultaneously baffling, heartbreaking, and infuriating how they acted around the test track.
Didn't expect it to be quite that graphic though, so proceed with caution everyone. D:
@@jemmapellemma8185 genuinely sorry for the lack of warning, should’ve known better as those images definitely unsettled me
@@eriklakeland3857 Are the images of blood or anything else gruesome? If not, what are the pictures of?
I wonder if there's actually a mod that simulates your introduction: having to sign paperwork on criminal/accidental negligience on your rides resulting in derailing and death, as well as having a short segment where you appear in court to try and defend yourself from the maximum penalty.
I know it was a joke, but honestly, it would make the game more tense in a strange way, like an unexpected random challenge.
May these videos never end.
*replaces fast hills with tunnels*
Guest's neck: BROKEN
Guest: 🙃👍
Trains can also derail when it runs past the end of it. I remember testing custom powered launch coasters as a kid. I would slowly up the launch speeds as high as it could without crashing during test mode just to have it crash when loaded with heavy guests. That must be the first time I realized guests make the coaster faster. Great video on these more challenging ride types!
Also subsequent trains can have different varieties of guests on them, so they can be heavier and go even faster. So even if you test it once with guests and it doesn't quite fly off the tracks and you think it's fine and open it up, train 37 can be heavier and fly off and crash.
1:55 Really interesting point about only having to worry about the speed of the first car in the train, wasn't aware of this and really useful to know, thanks!
@@mugrides6177 Apparently none of the cars are attached to the track but the back cars are attached to the front cars in a way that prohibits derailing?
Babe wake up, new Marcel Vos video just dropped.
god...
Clearly the owners of Verruct thought applying game logic to real life was a great idea.
According to RCT2 Verruct was going something like four times the speed limit for derailing when it reached top speed.
@@Ironsharp That ride was so shit a game from 1999 could be used as a coaster calculator that it was indeed unsafe, good riddance
RCT3 had this problem with waterslides. Can't remember which of the scenarios it was, but I had to tunnel like half the turns to make it work, which interrupted their view of the mountain they were sliding down. I was super proud of that design, too, because I spent like 3 days of computer time making it look good (ofc this was when I was a kid). Also I made a "testing" coaster that just went off the rails right into the most crowded path of the park. Guests didn't seem to mind, though.
I remember playing Razor Rocks many many years ago and building an awesome Wooden Reverser Coaster. It worked quite well for months on end, until one day I heard the explosion and the message saying it had crashed. I was wondering how that happened and it turns out that just the right combination of guests and their weight had made it so the train would derail at a slope near the end.
So I had to alter the track slightly higher which in turn involved changing how the ending went and it lost a few points of excitement in the process but at least it wouldn't derail ever again.
So yeah, lesson learned. Always make the slope one height unit higher than you think you need.
The funny thing about the tunnel pieces in Dinghy Slides is that people can hit themselves over the head when riding the slide
3:39 - I always imagined the dinghies flying up and having the guests get their head knocked into the top of the tunnel, and if so it certainly does have a more impactful effect. 😀
...I'll get my coat.
4:17 - Oh, that was already the joke. Me and my coat are staying then.
"Hello everyone.."
*LEGENDARY VOICE*
LEGENDARY VOICE WITH DUTCH ACCENT ;)
3:10 "Or is it?"
*Vsauce Music*
This just reminded me of the weirdest bug I encountered when I played RCT1.
I was playing the Aqua Park campaign and for whatever reason after a certain time the big dingy slide in the park would start crashing with the dingies suddenly falling through the slide at a particular steep drop. Just replacing the spot that had issues did nothing (doing a test run had the dingies still fall through), so I got very good at rebuilding that exact dingy slide layout. Once rebuilt it was fine until enough time went by and it started crashing again at the same spot. It was the weirdest thing.
There's a scenario where after some time, one of the coasters that came with the park will enter the station and explode. Wonder if the coasters get slightly faster over time, or if it's a bug or something. It works fine every time before and after that incident.
@@dakat5131 I know the one you're talking about, it's "Claustrophobia" in Diamond Heights. That is intentional behavior in the game. It happens when the ride has the "brakes failure" breakdown.
I love that guest bash their heads on the dingy slide tunnels
(1:17) These are not the only pieces, also when you make a level to steap piece (or the other way arround) with a BANKING, it will also happen.
I guess there is always something I forget in a video. The speed limits for those pieces appear to be the same as for the unbanked pieces, so I hope that people will assume that it does include banking.
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Marcel: Explaining how physics and faulty designs lead to casualties, plus how to prevent them
Me: Ha ha ha roller coaster go boooom
oh snap, didn't know the curves didn't matter. (especially on the bobsleds and dingby)
Loved your interview on the roller coaster tycoon documentary! Just watched it a couple days ago
From which channel?
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A ride overview on the Dinghy slide would be pretty nice. Always a popular 'coaster' among guests if you do it properly.
4:16 I'm pretty sure that happened IRL at a water park somewhere in the US once
I'm glad you included the Ghost Train. It really made me jump when I played Rct1 as a kid.
Awesome video. I used to be afraid to build those types of rides due to the risk of crashing, but now I know exactly what I need to do.
I like your videos because I learn things I never knew in the decade and some change that I've played these games. Didn't know bobsleighs don't crash on turns or that tunnels prevent the dinghy from crashing. Very useful information I could have used years ago 😅
the most annoying thing is actually the side-friction coaster. because it's impossible use "steep slope up" without the train flying off the track.
Heh, when I was a kid I used to think the Virginia Reel could also fly off the track like the side friction coasters or the dinghy slides... pretty common misconception IME
Yeah you're definitely not the only one who had that misconception. Even though I did know it I tested the Virginia Reel for this video just in case it could actually derail.
@@MarcelVos You would think that Chris Sawyer thought about the Virginia reel flying off the track but then he was like nah, isn't too realistic. I think what kept it from flying off, is they are heavier than side friction cars, look at Blackpool old Reel for example.
I used to be afraid that a bobsled coaster on a banked track would slip and fall off if it was going too slow. It never happened of course but I always made sure to get a bit of speed before doing a banked section.
"Our Dinghy's flying off the track, how shall we fix it?"
"Put a roof on it so the guests smash their skulls open instead!"
"Genius!"
I need more Marcel Vos videos in my life! Can you do a video about the economy of shops and stalls? How many should I have in my park, how far away from one another, what prices, etc
Yeah I always wondered if putting extra effort into changing default prices was worth it or if my time would be better spent making more rides
I'll add my voice to this request. Also whether any of them are better or worse than others in any way? (For instance I'm pretty sure coffee gives the guests an energy boost.)
@@michaelclements5793 that would be really good to know!
I'd love to see a video breaking down crashes more generally - under what circumstances rides crash, how the penalty to park rating works in the days and months following a crash, how a crash affects guests' willingness to ride a ride which has recently crashed, and (most importantly) how to prevent crashes. When I was younger I would never make rollercoasters with more than one train because I was afraid of the dreaded Station Brakes Failure, but obviously that severely limits throughput. Keep the great videos coming!
"Don't you absolutely hate it when you build a bobsled coaster and it crashes because it takes a hill at too high a speed? If there are any guests in the train they will all perish which creates alot of annoying paperwork and also potential losses. you just don't want to deal with that."
i'd use soundbite of Spiffing Brit's "unless you do" this is very reminiscent of the kind of intro he'd do, great sense of humor from both creators offcourse.
Glad to see at least something i can look at whilst analyzing my latest massacre that was entirely "accidental" (because it was designed that way and i cant test ride with ghosts - crash even in tests mean scrap and start again).
0:40 Side-Friction got yeeted!
Very happy to see you making content again. One of my favorite channels.
He's been making content twice a week for over half a year now :o On twitch
Moral of the story: blunt-force trauma to the head is acceptable.
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I always wondered why my coasters which turned corners fine in test mode would randomly derail months after their completion, I never thought the guest weight would be enough to make it go over that threshold, thanks!
I like the parts where you test the safe ride with no guests and the derailing rides with guests.
OMG MARCEL, I was just thinking about "I wonder if Marcel will make a crashing-coaster explained video" a few days before you made it.
You're like the Spirit of the Law of RCT2
They told me to add airtime to my coasters. So I did, and now they are mad.
so prevent guest death by giving them concussions via tunnel roofs. got it
There IS a third method of derailing:
Power-Launching a merry-go-round.
I'm quite certain I got the Bobsleigh Coaster to derail in a turn in RCT1. Or maybe it was indeed an upslope after the turn, but anyway, it resulted in each car being ejected in a different direction, so that may be what makes it feel like it is the turn that does it.
Yes, put a roof on the bobsleigh coaster, solves everything about the derailing. But the guest will have their heads smashed up.
It's a good thing guests have concrete skulls and steel spines so they can keep the dinghies in the track.
The fast turn derailing only affects 2 coasters?
Weird I feel like as a kid I saw that more often, but I am probably mistaken.
Still, Thanks for the awesome and helpful video!
Not even roller coasters but gentle rides.
RIP all the guests who died in this video.
the amount of guests i have lost on a ghost train...RIP
Does anyone know what number RCT uses for the coefficient of gravity? Is it something realistic but also computer-friendly like 9.8125, or did they round to 10? I am trying to design safe rides for tricky ride types like the ghost train and side-friction coaster.
No guests were harmed in the making of this-- Oh, who am I kidding? He probably drowned a few just for fun in-between recordings.
Third type of derailing: Shuttle coaster flies off the end of the track. Often done intentionally so for amusement.
GAY DISASTER COASTER CRASH HYPE
fun fact: the reason why the ghost train / haunted mansion ride derails at turns is because it is a glorified slot car
Was I the only person who initially thought derailing trains was gonna be a video about derailing monorails and the trains in game not the other normal rides... anyways great video as always :)
It's really glade to see so many people are still playing this game. I just picked up this game several weeks ago, and want to Learn how to do it for real, cause I never tried to build a good park when I was a kid. I’ve learned so many things from this channel, thank you. This game really deserve a remaster, even now I am still shocked by the details in this game.
The rainbow bobsleds are my favorite
Watching this video makes me want to make a challenge park with only the most difficult and dangerous rides to build.
*Reporter* : ...So Marcel, out of everything you love about RCT, please god tell us, what is your favorite thing of all time about it?
*MarcelVos* : 3:22
So you're telling me that my bobsleds cannot do a SICK GAINER OVER A FIRE PIT?
Preposterous!
Except if you change the track type to a dignly and put O-tubes, it's working, I did it on a side-friction
Who knew so many ride vehicles were made of pure explodium?
So greatful for helpful tips like this!
Very interesting and useful again :) It’s so interesting that you said “a trick under its sleeve”! Is that how you would say it in Dutch?
What will happen, when you build these rides (partially) underground? Does this have the same effect as the tube around the dinghy slide or will they still derail?
They'll still derail.
Can you use covered track pieces to prevent crashes on the side friction coaster by changing the ride type to dinghy in openRCT2 then filling in the blank track with copied tiles?
very informative video. was very focused and did not get derailed.
I just came here to get nostalgic over all the times I intentionally made unsafe coasters so I could watch guest-filled cars explode
I make a backup of my world every time I make a bobsled coaster! 😅
Technically, any coaster can also derail on open end of the tracks, but it is obviously so obvious, that I understand why you didn't mention it. I remember how little 10-or-so old me found out that the trains with guest are faster than the empty ones. I built the classic design for accelerated launch mode: station->looping->hill. I made the hill only long enough so the test train would go to the very end of the tracks. Then I opened the ride for guests.
Hey, aren't you involved in OpenRCT2 development or is that just Deurklink? I'm curious if it's possible to add a feature where the weight of trains can be changed so there are far more layouts you can make. I'd love to put some lead plates in the wild mice type rides as they lose velocity way too fast. Probably should have some reliability decay penalty due mechanic strain if you make it heavier than factory settings. Bonus if you make it lighter I guess?
And here I hoped you'd mention that the derailment technically works on forces, not speeds.
I'm a man of simple tastes: I see a Marcel Vos video, I click the 'Like' button.
4:04 can you imagine how hard this person is bonking their head on the roof of the ride
Wow, I didn't know the Dingy tube pieces prevented all derailing in their section of track!
4:23
Marcel: "It's probably best not to think about it too much..."
Me: (Think about it too much)
Rubber boats actually contain trace amounts of explosives apparently, and are more than happy to burst into flames upon landing in water.
Can you please make an explained video on why Marcel Vos is one of the most loveable wholesome youtube channels???
You still didn't explain why every car is filled with nitroglycerin...
You forgot the most common reason they derail
*Because I wanted it to.*
In RCT1, I recall the Bobsleigh coaster detailing on turns. I remember building a bobsleigh coaster on Razor Rocks, and towards the end of the ride, it was going well over 40mph, and it flew off the track. This might have been changed in RCT2.
I just did a test in RCT1 and had a bobsled coaster take small turns at 90 km/h and helixes at up to 70 km/h and it was fine both times. I think you, like everyone else, is misremebering.
It might just be RNG luck on that sort of thing.
I dont know how many trains you had on that coaster. But maybe it was a station brakes failure, and it just crashed into an other train?
Basing on what you said, this sounds like you placed a drop after the station. When the bobsled coaster had a brake failure, the train flew off the drop like the station was never existing.
Consider those dips leapt.
Marcel got his mojo back!
Just give the technicians enough duct tape, then the trains won't fly off the rails