many people too often get lost in the tech specs and miss out on the bigger picture. That's why reviews like this are really important. Anyone can pull up two spec sheets and look for the bigger number, but having an expert put them side by side is far more valuable information.
That’s the video the world was waiting for. No only he reviewed X95L, which has few not so in-depth ‘reviews’ on RUclips but more importantly, how it compares to it’s Mini-LCD rivals! Especially against the far more expensive Samsung QN95C and Chinese value rivals. That’s why you’re a legend Vincent and a boon to the AV community.🙏
Digital treands is the real deal.. Can understand Vincent at all..... not sure what language he is speaking.... and his jokes are misogynistic at best and a bit perverted..... Have 3 young daughters that watch the channel and he can be very offensive......
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This is why I love this channel. Very impressive analysis that gets to the heart of the matter. I feel very well informed now. Thank you for the hard work!
Only directly head on. IPS will have worse contrast/black levels. You can see this across gaming monitors where you can experience TN, IPS, and VA panels side by side.
Vincent is legend in analysing tv . Very technical yet , easy for layman to understand. The review is straight forward and conclusive . Not like most reviewers , non conclusive.
Love this man! I'm back here again as we are now looking at a new TV. Love his reviews and bit of humor. I like the idea of ambilight but picture quality is more important
Ive always trusted Sony with TVs even going back to the CRT Trinitron days. They also upscale old content so much better than other companies. Colors are usually pretty good out of the box for all their models too. Have a Sony X900H in my living room and an A80K OLED in my bedroom with no complaints about either.
Exactly i watch a lot Cable TV and have this TV in 75 inch X95 here in Europe. Upscaling is very very good also with 1080 Interfaced Material. No Company comes close for me, no Samsung, no LG in 2022 (i don't know this year) with upscaling from lower Material. Maybe Panasonic. The issue that i have, i have the same not homogene Panel like this in this Review, maybe a little bit better. HDR and 4K Material looks stunning, and that said from someone that have the 950H in 65 inch, also that have a good picture quality, but the upscaling is much better with this tv and that with a bigger screen and lower pixel density the Panel looks 2 classes better. My opinion to this TV.
@@patrickmika6493 do you notice the screen uniformity issue in white scenes/snow sports etc? I'll be updating from my 7yr old 65w850c and it's screen uniformity has always bugged me- especially watching ice hockey etc. Which puts me off on the x95L and leans me towards a90L or a95K- only problem being the TV is in the living room.
I have the 85-inch x95l, and I love it. The Revenant scene is one of the first things I demo, and it's incredible. I can't see any blooming, and it's so good that the scene looks much better than my 83-inch G2 and 55-inch a90j. This is across the board for me. It's extremely rare when you see any light come in the light bars(as in maybe one show I saw on HBO) and the pop is incredible. It's me favorite TV I've ever experienced and I work in the industry. Note I have the 85-inch, so it's possible it has less blooming, but it's not noticeable. Nothing like is shown, but the camera is overexposed, so even the 65 won't look like that. Amazing TV for those considering.
I've been waiting for the A95L but now am seriously considering the X95L 85". Are you saying the bloom from the subtitles in the Revenant scene he showed are a bit exaggerated due to the overexposure of the camera?
@corporateGuy89 100% I see zero bloom on that scene on my 85-inch and see more detail and pop than either of my OLEDs. I have the picture set to custom and local dimming set to high. He did say that it's overexposed, so it's not going to look like what was shown, but the 85-inch might have better control than the 65-inch as well.
@aquaneon8012 Yeah. I was skeptical as well. While I think there are some mini leds that are better value, this is the first time I thought a mini led TV look better overall. However, during a blind watching TV test at MWave, the qm8 was the people's popular choice. Even when there was an G3 there. I'm not saying I would have picked it as my choice, but it does show that the tech has come a long way. I've never watched this side by side against the new G3, but my x95l looks much better than my G2. I haven't had one OLED fan(myself included) disagree while seeing them together at my place. Note, Andrew Robinson said he picked last year's Sony x95k over the C2 for his main tv, and now he has the x95l. Shane Lee just picked the x95l has his main TV, so there are other examples of TV reviewers picking it. I think many of us have biases and never like change, so many won't believe it or give it a chance. I'm a very open-minded individual who just loves tech and can only share my experience.
Often 85" models get that extra tender loving care - probably has more dimming zones to boot - Sony's are not cheap - so someone buying a 83" A90J say 2 years ago are probably looking to hold for awhile - same as this - I think next year is my year to buy - as a lot of pressure coming to 83" to 85" space: MLA , QD-OLED - newer mediatek chips - may consider a next year 77" Panasonic MLA. I think in my country Sony stocks very few x95L models - more OLEDs and X90s
I would personally choose this over any MiniLED TV this year too, for the various reasons you demonstrated throughout this entire video. What a great comparison! 👏 I really am impressed with the low APL/shadow detail performance of the X95L. It comes as no surprise tho, as Sony made it, and it’s been a strong suit of theirs for years. What I like about Sony the most, is they’re pixel peepers like us. Nit pickers per say. They just have a way of addressing image quality that jives with me, as I’m after accuracy and the best image quality. Which correlates no matter how much people wanna disagree…
I was completely confused until you mentioned Kegels, and suddenly everything made sense. Thanks for this comparison, very informative! I have to admit, even as a bit of a techie myself, I fell for marketing and believed more zones automatically meant better HDR performance. There is clearly more to it than that, and obviously the backlight dimming algorithm plays a very large role in overall performance. So again, thanks!
is it though, they have a problem with light bleed into the black bars when there is a light near the black bar, sammy TV's dont which, for me this is more distracting for some people that black crush. Better getting an OLED.
@@McKluskie blooming issues are way too overblown (pun intended) nowadays. And there's tons of Sony haters going around in these videos harping on the issue.
Sony's bloom in darker scenes and are way more expensive...HDTV's is calibrated not out of the box...You can expect more blooming on the Sony out of the box....That is FACT!!! I own a Sony x80j tv I use for my computer monitor so I'm not being bias...My main TV is now the Hisense U8K which has excellent 1008 dimming zones and barely ever blooms...Black is inky black on the U8K...Sony's have excellent color uniformity and good motion on them...
@@blackcaesar8387hisense and tcl trash marketing to the mainstream that doesn't know w tf makes a good picture so they attach to specs and just those specs they understand like peak brightness but don't bother to look into how peak brightness is lower the smaller the window size which f ks with the eotf completely where peak highlights aren't peak highlights anymore and end up being less bright or just as bright as other parts of an image because they boost peak brightness in 25-50% window sizes to appeal to the mainstream that don't know any better as well as eliminating blooming which again is the extent of the mainstreams feeble understanding of tech. How much value are these tvs really when all you're really paying for is good sdr and half done hdr. The quantum dot layers are cheaply done too, producing very noticeably less color than pricey rivals. Mini-leds are much higher in zone count on these chinese giants but they're distributed evenly across the panel so there isn't much benefit to zone smoothness like they advertise (cheaper for them) and the algorithm of aggressive blooming suppression dumbing down the tvs true capabilities. Don't even get me started on the poor effort of maintaining accuracy with different window sizes, even samsung doesn't do it. Lcds are a scam more than they're worth in general.. oleds might have increased in cost a lot, but against how bad these lcds have become, the cost is now somewhat justified.
I paid 800 for my 75" TCL qm8 you're paying double that for a Sony in the same size. Are you saying the difference in picture is worth double the price? Go for it. I'll keep my TCL and pocket with 800.00
Man you're a legend, you never fails to produce amazing and helpful content! I freaken love what you do, it has been so helpful to me! Keep up this amazing work! Blessings!
Hopefully you'll do another dedicated video comparing the X95L to various OLEDs because in your side-by-side comparisons it actually looked closer to the reference monitor in dark scenes than any of the OLEDs you've shown in these type of comparisons. As you know, many OLEDs either crush some shadow detail as shown in your Revenant clip or raise it above reference like on the Sony OLED models. You could also show the advantages that these type of LCDs have on dark uniformity (lack of vertical streaking) and the cleaner dark presentation without adding noise or dithering present on OLEDs. Thanks.
14:26 Thanks so much for comparing it to an OLED. Please consider a comparison video regarding different use cases with the A95L vs. X95L. @community: would you also like to watch that?
I think being able to see the same content on the reference monitor and the competing TVs made it clear that the X95L is better which is shocking given the smaller number of dimming zones. This is an incredible review of all TVs in the comparison. In the US, the X95L only comes in 85 inches. Is there a plan to review the step down model, the X93L? I'm guessing its performance falls between the X90L and X95L but where does it fall compared to the competition?
I have Samsung QN90B, the scene at 1:25 if local dimming set to high, it will crush small details in dark area. But when I set local dimming to low, it reveals more details just like X95L.
@@99tophunterIt seems like he's saying anyone can choose what to tweak to make it look better... I own a Sony TV yet Im questioning if this was a paid review.
I used to think this too, even disabled local dimming on my old TV and just put up with crap black levels as I hated the obvious zone switching/bloom But now I have a TCL C835 with 360 dimming zones which compared to new models is practically nothing.. and holy hell it blew me away Sure it struggles on star fields as expected but otherwise handles zone transitions beautifully, even scrolling white credits on a pure black background looks amazing. It's significantly brighter than my 55B9 OLED that I use on PC too, but for now the OLED still wins for colour saturation and especially pixel response. VA smear is not something I can go back to, especially given how much worse it seems to be on large displays compared to regular sized PC monitors.. But, that said, in a few years when I eventually move beyond this 2019 OLED I am likely leaving OLED behind completely
You start to wonder whats going on with Mini LED TVs with over 1000s of dimming zones and they cant even keep the letterbox bars black. Too bad that the X95L doesnt come in 55 inch
yep, will be my next one. Always hard to see anything on my AF8 without closing shutter at daylight...btw, love your channel, best out there in this area! thx
I feel the X95L might be finally worth swapping my ZD9 for. The ZD9 is brilliant but starting to have some minor panel issues and doesn't have hdmi 2.1. Let's see what A95l looks like.
After the revising the backlight control from last year and increasing the brightness plus hdr impact I’d say the 75 would be a fantastic z9d successor
At CES Hisense showed it did away with back light zones. They use a micro LED panel with over 2000 LED's, that all work on there own. Please have a video on this.
The local dimming algo superioirity of Sony goes back well over a decade. I still have a W905 that for bluray/1080p gives many a modern TV a run for its money. The beauty of Sony's dimming is that it can barely be seen working and is super consistent, this is essential for not getting pulled out of content for me. A hint of bloom around very infrequent subtitles is nothing in the grand scheme
2017 to 2022 would have to disagree with you there my friend. Their local dimming algorithm may be great, but when they are putting 60 zones on a 75 in tv, the overall performance has sucked for years. The x95k was the first decent LCD from a local dimming performance standpoint since the 940e...
yes this vincent almost seems sponmsored. they are charging double just for the sony name, when they an really use more than 70 dimming ior fald on lower models well over 1500...@@jogo8261
We only have X95L TV's in the USA available in the 85-inch size. The 65-inch we have available is the X93L. Maybe you have more sizes in England/the UK?
Any information about that sony sell this year the same panels on the different sizes, not like last year 65, 75 inch X95K TCL Panels and on 85 inch X95K the better AUO Panels ?
The processing is better. But the picture quality would be better still if they combined that processing with twice as many dimming zones. Given the prices they ask, there's really no excuse for not doing so. (FWIW I am a Sony fan who owns the A80K)
how does game mode look? as the native contrast is lower, with a laid-back dimming system during game mode I'm afraid it doesn't look as contrasty in dark scenes? QN95C you reviewed has more dimming zones and contrast and yet..
This why I buy the Japanese brands ,I have Panasonic LZ2000, Sony A95k and 8k jvc projector, they take movie processing seriously, and especially Panasonic and jvc you don't have to worry about your tv getting updated to fix the image and then brake something else ,Panasonic and jvc no updates to fix the image after owning them for almost 2 years lg and Samsung take notes .
14:41 Wow, does OLED really struggle this much with black crush in dark scenes? The fact that the background trees are just gone is wild to me... Is this just a major outlier, or is this common for really dark content on OLEDs?
So what is the overall rankings between all this tvs I am trying to decide which on of these tvs to get this year???? I am upgrading this year from my 6 year old tv, and I really don’t understand which one of these to get….
I've noticed this with Apple's XDR displays. Not the most zones, but quite good algorithm to handle blooming. Though, I do with that number of zones was a good measure because it's very difficult (without great reviews like Vincent's) to know what mini LED performance will be like across brands and models.
This video just reaffirms what I've suspected to be the case this year with the X95L compared with other mini-Led brands. I've always believed the dimming zone count and even the contrast ratios is a bit of spec marketing ploy to sway prospective buyers from one brand to other. The secret sauce does seem to be the processing which no matter the reviewer all agree, SONY is the leader with its processing.
The Sony seems to ramp up/ramp down the backlight over like 0.2 or 0.3 seconds with the subtitles at 2:53 and that is TERRIBLE it should instantly adjust not leave a huge grey patch on a black background for 0.3 seconds after the white subtitle disappears.
I wonder if the samsung and LG mini LED TV have higher ceilings. Meaning with firmware update thanks to AI training using calibrated model like HX310 etc they can gett better tuning of the dimming zones offering more fidelity than 480 ones
The real truth is despite lg owners claiming lg has the best shadow detail and no black crush they’re full of shit clearly. Woled suffers from the same black crush as rgb oled. While qd oled is better it still has black crush but the key difference being you can turn on contrast enhancer for the darkest scenes and still have a good picture while there’s nothing you can do with the g3 without lifting the blacks to being completely washed out and looking like a green mess.This is a known issue to anyone but lg owners who are in compete denial and will fight you claiming it’s not black crush you’re seeing 😂
@@rahb2096 but vincent's near black gamma measurements matched the reference values quite well. Seems really contradictory Shadow Details on lg woled tvs can be lifted by adjusting the low ire values of the white balance controls.
So black friday 2023 has 85"X95L for 3500 and A90J 83" for 3350 prices.. Which one to go for when watching movies in light controlled room (meaning dark) at 10.5 feet viewing distance? Any major difference with experience (size/PQ/HDR impact)?
After watching this video and reading other comments online, I think it’s fair to say that Sony has mastered its local dimming algorithm, which together with its class-leading XR processor make Sony’s premium LEDs worth the extra cash. If I watching TV in the daytime or in a bright room, this would be my first choice. For those of us who prefer Dolby Vision over HDR10, and watch TV in dimly-lit rooms, opting for the A80L or A95L makes more sense. The 65 inch A95L is gonna have a retail price of $3,499 in the US, so if Sony can stay within range of Samsung and LG by a couple hundred dollars then we can expect a competitive prices as the G3 and A95L go down in price. Samsung has already taken a couple hundreds off the A95C
Do you think Sony will update the mediatek chip and the TV processor for the 2024 models? As in using a new name other than XR processor, and having four HDMI 2. ports? I feel Sony will have a new processor next year because it is about the same time window when they upgrade.
I just bought the good old X65K in 65 inch (which is pretty similar to the new X65L) for just 1900 bucks ! It's a really great TV. Better than the rest ! Upscaling, motion handling and near black details could not be any better !
The conclusion people should arise isn’t that less zones is better, or “imagine what they could achieve with more zones”…it’s that there is actually a sweet spot between number of zones, performance and compromise, and that refinement takes a lot of “know how”, development and testing.
But if Sony can do so much with fewer zones, why not ratchet up the zones and do even better? Is adding zones very costly or is there some other issue with adding zones?
@jc2126: What @dubsynczz said is correct. More dimming zones require more LEDs + more advanced controller, which drives up the cost. It just doesn't make business sense, when Sony (or any other company) can just buy OLED panels with pixel-level light control at a cheaper price...
@@hdtvtest I love the brightness of my Z9G and Z9K. the blooming is the only thing that really bothers me. I thought more zones with Mini LED would solve that issue.
Great video. Thankyou Vincent. Its a shame the Sony is only available in 65 and higher..too big for our front room. I myself felt the QN95C had more reference monitor skin tones..but Sony had better highlights and looked more appealing.
this year i had for couple of weeks the: Samsung qn900B 8k = most blooming and unbearable rainbow effect on screen, couldn't tolerate that so I returned. then the Sony X95L= I've tried my best to get that tv to bloom but was impossible, oled picture quality but without that depth (3d effect) the reason for the return was the motion Blur on fast action scenes, tried for 2 weeks with all the settings and motion control but no success. now currently I have the Hisense UXK 65inch with about 1500 dimming zones: I can confirm that it has less blooming than the qn900b but is nowhere near the x95l regarding the perfect blooming control, but the motion blur is better than the sony. after all this test I'm going back to oleds, ordered the G3, you always going to miss that deep depth that oleds gives you. the mini leds always gives you that 2d flat image which i'm not used to it anymore after 8 years of oleds
Maybe u should try the ips panel mini led I have the qn85b it's ips panel and it's more natural looking then the va panel mini led. I belive the qn95c is a ips panel to. Ips panels have better motion handling then va panels
@-darwin-2422 u stil got something better then most va panels with the hisense xuh .it has 144hrtz out of the box which is an upgrade in motion supposbly .I donr kno how much compared to an ips mini led. The qn85 I have is good in motion but since it's samsung they add a bit of smoothing .but in my opinion better then va panel. I also owned two oleds before this a Sony and LG. Both had cons the Sony one was beatiful but the picture was bit unnatural stil i liked it alot. The lg c1 oled was ok great motion but so dim and lacking in that wow pop picture you expect I sold it
@@ffmde8268 first the picture quality on G3 is not different from the c9, but all rest are huge improvements. two times more Brightness, and most importantly for us that this trash reviewers are not telling is the durability of the oled's panel. Thanks to the heatsink after 5 months of use I still haven't seen a image retention not even for 1 sec, that's good for the risk of burn-in in the future. with the c8, c9 and cx u have from day one image retention on bright images and in my personal experience with the c9 after 2 years the pixel started to degrade, soon after the colours were not even half of what used to be and eventually got burn in after 2 1/2 years of daily normal use. people think burn in starts spontaneously but no, it will give you first the signs above mentioned. with the g3 im pretty shore it will last at least 5 years without a single sign of burn in. the auto dimming is also way better that the c9.
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many people too often get lost in the tech specs and miss out on the bigger picture. That's why reviews like this are really important. Anyone can pull up two spec sheets and look for the bigger number, but having an expert put them side by side is far more valuable information.
and most users won't have the opportunities to put different choices side by side for comparison
Tell that to rtings who’ll probably rate it behind the samsung cause they just care about raw numbers
And most reviewers don't know what the picture should be because they don't have a reference screen.
That’s the video the world was waiting for. No only he reviewed X95L, which has few not so in-depth ‘reviews’ on RUclips but more importantly, how it compares to it’s Mini-LCD rivals! Especially against the far more expensive Samsung QN95C and Chinese value rivals. That’s why you’re a legend Vincent and a boon to the AV community.🙏
My thoughts exactly. Vinnie is on the pulse!
Was definitely waiting for this review.. One 85" ordered yesterday. Thanks Vincent 👍
always watch Vincent's review before purchasing AV equipment, couldn't agree more
Digital treands is the real deal.. Can understand Vincent at all..... not sure what language he is speaking.... and his jokes are misogynistic at best and a bit perverted..... Have 3 young daughters that watch the channel and he can be very offensive......
@@michael-4k4000 I doubt Caleb would appreciate you using his channel to take a rude dig at Vincent's channel or his English.
This channel is like going to the monastery of consumer tech and Vincent being the Sifu Monk. Lot of learnings in a quiet no nonsense way. Love it.
I'm waiting for 2024 Sony mini led. I love oled but the burn in over time is a deal breaker for me. Ideally micro led but still to expensive 😂
Holy smokes, dude you workin' overtime? This is amazing, I can't thank you enough...
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This is why I love this channel. Very impressive analysis that gets to the heart of the matter. I feel very well informed now. Thank you for the hard work!
Wow, the x95L is impressive. This is the TV to buy for a bright room.
I'll admit, I bought the 85-inch for my dark room. I replaced my G2 and absolutely love it. Of course, it will work amazing in a bright room as well.
Not just bright room .if sony tv had ips panel I would buy
@@wingedhussar1453 ew
@@postboy2242 why ips panel ahas mroe natrual colors and motion
Only directly head on. IPS will have worse contrast/black levels. You can see this across gaming monitors where you can experience TN, IPS, and VA panels side by side.
Vincent is legend in analysing tv . Very technical yet , easy for layman to understand.
The review is straight forward and conclusive .
Not like most reviewers , non conclusive.
X95L is THE best MiniLED in 2023. 👑Yes the Hisense UX looks promising, but it will battle with the QN95C for Silverware.
I knew Sony TV's had better picture quality and accuracy compared to other brands, but this is just shocking!
Exactly
It’s not really shocking at all, well if you do your research that is
They make good high end expensive tvs, but their lower end stuff is usually more expensive than competing brands, yet aren't the top performers.
It’s always been this way
@@dontpokethebear3893 not in CRT days.
Love this man! I'm back here again as we are now looking at a new TV. Love his reviews and bit of humor. I like the idea of ambilight but picture quality is more important
Ive always trusted Sony with TVs even going back to the CRT Trinitron days.
They also upscale old content so much better than other companies. Colors are usually pretty good out of the box for all their models too.
Have a Sony X900H in my living room and an A80K OLED in my bedroom with no complaints about either.
The Wega was the best in it times.
A80K 77” in my bedroom, beautiful and shocked how good it looks. Amazing
Great picture quality. But in their mid range LCD tv's, they always use a very underpowered SoC. It's really bad.
Exactly i watch a lot Cable TV and have this TV in 75 inch X95 here in Europe. Upscaling is very very good also with 1080 Interfaced Material. No Company comes close for me, no Samsung, no LG in 2022 (i don't know this year) with upscaling from lower Material. Maybe Panasonic. The issue that i have, i have the same not homogene Panel like this in this Review, maybe a little bit better. HDR and 4K Material looks stunning, and that said from someone that have the 950H in 65 inch, also that have a good picture quality, but the upscaling is much better with this tv and that with a bigger screen and lower pixel density the Panel looks 2 classes better. My opinion to this TV.
@@patrickmika6493 do you notice the screen uniformity issue in white scenes/snow sports etc?
I'll be updating from my 7yr old 65w850c and it's screen uniformity has always bugged me- especially watching ice hockey etc. Which puts me off on the x95L and leans me towards a90L or a95K- only problem being the TV is in the living room.
I have the 85-inch x95l, and I love it. The Revenant scene is one of the first things I demo, and it's incredible. I can't see any blooming, and it's so good that the scene looks much better than my 83-inch G2 and 55-inch a90j. This is across the board for me. It's extremely rare when you see any light come in the light bars(as in maybe one show I saw on HBO) and the pop is incredible. It's me favorite TV I've ever experienced and I work in the industry. Note I have the 85-inch, so it's possible it has less blooming, but it's not noticeable. Nothing like is shown, but the camera is overexposed, so even the 65 won't look like that. Amazing TV for those considering.
I've been waiting for the A95L but now am seriously considering the X95L 85". Are you saying the bloom from the subtitles in the Revenant scene he showed are a bit exaggerated due to the overexposure of the camera?
@corporateGuy89 100% I see zero bloom on that scene on my 85-inch and see more detail and pop than either of my OLEDs. I have the picture set to custom and local dimming set to high. He did say that it's overexposed, so it's not going to look like what was shown, but the 85-inch might have better control than the 65-inch as well.
First time I ever heard someone say miniled is better than oled
@aquaneon8012 Yeah. I was skeptical as well. While I think there are some mini leds that are better value, this is the first time I thought a mini led TV look better overall. However, during a blind watching TV test at MWave, the qm8 was the people's popular choice. Even when there was an G3 there. I'm not saying I would have picked it as my choice, but it does show that the tech has come a long way. I've never watched this side by side against the new G3, but my x95l looks much better than my G2. I haven't had one OLED fan(myself included) disagree while seeing them together at my place. Note, Andrew Robinson said he picked last year's Sony x95k over the C2 for his main tv, and now he has the x95l. Shane Lee just picked the x95l has his main TV, so there are other examples of TV reviewers picking it. I think many of us have biases and never like change, so many won't believe it or give it a chance. I'm a very open-minded individual who just loves tech and can only share my experience.
Often 85" models get that extra tender loving care - probably has more dimming zones to boot - Sony's are not cheap - so someone buying a 83" A90J say 2 years ago are probably looking to hold for awhile - same as this - I think next year is my year to buy - as a lot of pressure coming to 83" to 85" space: MLA , QD-OLED - newer mediatek chips - may consider a next year 77" Panasonic MLA. I think in my country Sony stocks very few x95L models - more OLEDs and X90s
Another great review. Your similar review convinced me to get my 75" X95K...still no regrets! The picture is amazing.
4:12 Thank you for this critical information
"That's high praise..." cracked me up! Thank you for what you do Vincent
I would personally choose this over any MiniLED TV this year too, for the various reasons you demonstrated throughout this entire video. What a great comparison! 👏 I really am impressed with the low APL/shadow detail performance of the X95L. It comes as no surprise tho, as Sony made it, and it’s been a strong suit of theirs for years.
What I like about Sony the most, is they’re pixel peepers like us. Nit pickers per say. They just have a way of addressing image quality that jives with me, as I’m after accuracy and the best image quality. Which correlates no matter how much people wanna disagree…
I was completely confused until you mentioned Kegels, and suddenly everything made sense. Thanks for this comparison, very informative! I have to admit, even as a bit of a techie myself, I fell for marketing and believed more zones automatically meant better HDR performance. There is clearly more to it than that, and obviously the backlight dimming algorithm plays a very large role in overall performance. So again, thanks!
Sony makes the best tvs imo. This has been true for years. More does not equal better.
Panasonic does it for me, out of the box the most accurate imo (OLED)
@@frenksevvy7756 They are great as well!
@@frenksevvy7756Sony's qd oled destroys Panasonic too. The qd oled has better colour volume at higher brightness levels.
You mean the best expensive tvs?
You don't think their lower tier are top performers do you?
@@frenksevvy7756it is the Apple Iphone of the TV world.
Sony's dynamic dimming algorithm is the best in the business.
is it though, they have a problem with light bleed into the black bars when there is a light near the black bar, sammy TV's dont which, for me this is more distracting for some people that black crush. Better getting an OLED.
@@McKluskiebetter get a hisense u8k 😊
@@McKluskie blooming issues are way too overblown (pun intended) nowadays. And there's tons of Sony haters going around in these videos harping on the issue.
Sony's bloom in darker scenes and are way more expensive...HDTV's is calibrated not out of the box...You can expect more blooming on the Sony out of the box....That is FACT!!! I own a Sony x80j tv I use for my computer monitor so I'm not being bias...My main TV is now the Hisense U8K which has excellent 1008 dimming zones and barely ever blooms...Black is inky black on the U8K...Sony's have excellent color uniformity and good motion on them...
Except in Dolby Vision in this case.
I'm so glad someone's mentioning this. Hate the fact that everyone talks about TCL and hisense dimming zones like it's some huge positive.
Look up the qm8. Its not a perfect TV, and still has budget tv issues, but the dimming zones do deliver in that model.
@@blackcaesar8387 tbh I wouldn't buy hisense for moral reasons.
@@blackcaesar8387hisense and tcl trash marketing to the mainstream that doesn't know w tf makes a good picture so they attach to specs and just those specs they understand like peak brightness but don't bother to look into how peak brightness is lower the smaller the window size which f ks with the eotf completely where peak highlights aren't peak highlights anymore and end up being less bright or just as bright as other parts of an image because they boost peak brightness in 25-50% window sizes to appeal to the mainstream that don't know any better as well as eliminating blooming which again is the extent of the mainstreams feeble understanding of tech. How much value are these tvs really when all you're really paying for is good sdr and half done hdr. The quantum dot layers are cheaply done too, producing very noticeably less color than pricey rivals. Mini-leds are much higher in zone count on these chinese giants but they're distributed evenly across the panel so there isn't much benefit to zone smoothness like they advertise (cheaper for them) and the algorithm of aggressive blooming suppression dumbing down the tvs true capabilities. Don't even get me started on the poor effort of maintaining accuracy with different window sizes, even samsung doesn't do it. Lcds are a scam more than they're worth in general.. oleds might have increased in cost a lot, but against how bad these lcds have become, the cost is now somewhat justified.
I paid 800 for my 75" TCL qm8 you're paying double that for a Sony in the same size. Are you saying the difference in picture is worth double the price? Go for it. I'll keep my TCL and pocket with 800.00
Excellent presentation. Clear, precise with the most and relevant information.
Clearly placed Hisense and TCL in their place, mid-tier.
😂
Shocked how poor Samsung QN95C performed and it’s far more expensive than the Sony 😮
What an excellent review and yes I will be getting the 75X95L after that excellent review...thankyou
You can never go wrong with a Sony or Panasonic for accurate picture quality
For sure. There’s a good reason they cost more.
For sure. There’s a good reason they cost more.
Yea true. I think LG oled's arent far behind though with picture quality
@@adriandavies25LG is definitely the Korean’s Sony.
Panasonic for movies, Sony for general watching and gaming. I can't believe my parents 16 year old Panasonic TV absolutely annihilated my LG OLED...
I hope Sony makes the smaller sizes available in the states. Otherwise, I'll have to buy a A95L this year. Thanks for the comparison.
Not like the A95L is bad 😅 Great „problem“ you got there
Man you're a legend, you never fails to produce amazing and helpful content! I freaken love what you do, it has been so helpful to me! Keep up this amazing work! Blessings!
Hopefully you'll do another dedicated video comparing the X95L to various OLEDs because in your side-by-side comparisons it actually looked closer to the reference monitor in dark scenes than any of the OLEDs you've shown in these type of comparisons. As you know, many OLEDs either crush some shadow detail as shown in your Revenant clip or raise it above reference like on the Sony OLED models. You could also show the advantages that these type of LCDs have on dark uniformity (lack of vertical streaking) and the cleaner dark presentation without adding noise or dithering present on OLEDs. Thanks.
They are two different technologies so little use in comparison, however he did compare against G3.
Little use? It's the most natural choice to compare when trying to decide which kind of TV tech you would like to buy.
Compare edge lit and full array. No point comparing with oled, will win every time.
14:26 Thanks so much for comparing it to an OLED. Please consider a comparison video regarding different use cases with the A95L vs. X95L. @community: would you also like to watch that?
I think being able to see the same content on the reference monitor and the competing TVs made it clear that the X95L is better which is shocking given the smaller number of dimming zones.
This is an incredible review of all TVs in the comparison.
In the US, the X95L only comes in 85 inches. Is there a plan to review the step down model, the X93L? I'm guessing its performance falls between the X90L and X95L but where does it fall compared to the competition?
I have Samsung QN90B, the scene at 1:25 if local dimming set to high, it will crush small details in dark area. But when I set local dimming to low, it reveals more details just like X95L.
Are you saying vincent doesn't know how to set up his tv? That's serious! 😃
@@99tophunterIt seems like he's saying anyone can choose what to tweak to make it look better... I own a Sony TV yet
Im questioning if this was a paid review.
Just bought the x95L. Delivery on Thurs lol. Was contemplating between X95l and qn95c. X95l looks better to me
Vincent putting RTings on blast. I love it.
Once again ... Swing....facts. Thank you for your in depth review.
Finally went for a xr65x95lu based on your reviews and based on my living room ie being a bright room, thanks Vincent
In US X95L only available in 85" would like to know how the X93L compares to it.
I used to think this too, even disabled local dimming on my old TV and just put up with crap black levels as I hated the obvious zone switching/bloom
But now I have a TCL C835 with 360 dimming zones which compared to new models is practically nothing.. and holy hell it blew me away
Sure it struggles on star fields as expected but otherwise handles zone transitions beautifully, even scrolling white credits on a pure black background looks amazing. It's significantly brighter than my 55B9 OLED that I use on PC too, but for now the OLED still wins for colour saturation and especially pixel response. VA smear is not something I can go back to, especially given how much worse it seems to be on large displays compared to regular sized PC monitors..
But, that said, in a few years when I eventually move beyond this 2019 OLED I am likely leaving OLED behind completely
You start to wonder whats going on with Mini LED TVs with over 1000s of dimming zones and they
cant even keep the letterbox bars black.
Too bad that the X95L doesnt come in 55 inch
TCL qm8 (US only) has no such trouble. It has double the dimming zones of the European c845.
@@blackcaesar8387 so qm8 will be the c945?
I don’t know what we will do without you Vincent. I didn’t get the joke but Merci for this 😊😊Great tv on my watch list.
It was a Nicholas Cage/SNL reference I believe.
Sony's Lcd is even better than oled at 14:41 if subtitles are turned off. Especially shadow detail.
yep, will be my next one. Always hard to see anything on my AF8 without closing shutter at daylight...btw, love your channel, best out there in this area! thx
No doubt Sony is known for picture quality but that price premium really hurts lol
A thorough thought piece wrapped into a review. Well done.
I know it doesn’t make much sense, but I really wanted the X95L vs A95L comparison when possible.
@hdtvtest could you do a recommended settings video please? surprised at the lack of this on the web.
I feel the X95L might be finally worth swapping my ZD9 for. The ZD9 is brilliant but starting to have some minor panel issues and doesn't have hdmi 2.1. Let's see what A95l looks like.
How much did you pay for ZD9 and what size? 💸
After the revising the backlight control from last year and increasing the brightness plus hdr impact I’d say the 75 would be a fantastic z9d successor
@@OmniOmegaKiller it was £4k retail 65 inch. I got it for 2K. Love the TV tbh. Still amazed by the picture quality.
@@polishdude001 it's either that or the A95L. I've seen a prototype of one and it looked pretty amazing. I guess we'll have to see.
Nope, it's not.. if Sony comes out with a new processor and an 83 inch QD-OLEF to replace the A90J next year, than it probably will be worth replacing
My go to channel before buying, thanks Vincent
Returned x95L because off rainbow reflections can be seen even with minimal lights in room. No reviewer mentioned this before
I hate rainbows and I hate sitting in the dark watching tv to avoid rainbows!
Great review, Vincent.
You’re a legend for a reason 👍
Im so happy with my x95L 85" purchase
Thank you Vincent for your great quality content as always 🙏
wow... the X95L gets really close to the reference monitor. I hope you get your hand on the new Hisense ULED X TV for comparison :)
At CES Hisense showed it did away with back light zones. They use a micro LED panel with over 2000 LED's, that all work on there own. Please have a video on this.
Will there be a G3 vs X95L review in the coming months?
The local dimming algo superioirity of Sony goes back well over a decade. I still have a W905 that for bluray/1080p gives many a modern TV a run for its money. The beauty of Sony's dimming is that it can barely be seen working and is super consistent, this is essential for not getting pulled out of content for me. A hint of bloom around very infrequent subtitles is nothing in the grand scheme
2017 to 2022 would have to disagree with you there my friend. Their local dimming algorithm may be great, but when they are putting 60 zones on a 75 in tv, the overall performance has sucked for years. The x95k was the first decent LCD from a local dimming performance standpoint since the 940e...
yes this vincent almost seems sponmsored. they are charging double just for the sony name, when they an really use more than 70 dimming ior fald on lower models well over 1500...@@jogo8261
I use subtitles on ALL movies, so it wouldn't be infrequent here. That's mainly the reason why I prefer OLED these days.
How does it rate versus last year’s X95K? It might be a great bargain, having in mind current discounts
We only have X95L TV's in the USA available in the 85-inch size. The 65-inch we have available is the X93L. Maybe you have more sizes in England/the UK?
Hence why I like my X95J, Panasonic or Sony for me as I always go for accuracy.
Any information about that sony sell this year the same panels on the different sizes, not like last year 65, 75 inch X95K TCL Panels and on 85 inch X95K the better AUO Panels ?
The processing is better. But the picture quality would be better still if they combined that processing with twice as many dimming zones. Given the prices they ask, there's really no excuse for not doing so.
(FWIW I am a Sony fan who owns the A80K)
When they make a TV with 1000 dimming zones they cant sold every year a new model With 100-150 zones more 😂
Happening now Bravia 9
how does game mode look? as the native contrast is lower, with a laid-back dimming system during game mode I'm afraid it doesn't look as contrasty in dark scenes? QN95C you reviewed has more dimming zones and contrast and yet..
X95L is the way to go
I'm still loving my Sony 930E 65" the picture is phenomenal for movies & gaming 6yrs later lol.
Alright, Vincent "squeezing in" (see what I did there) Kegel exercise joke FTW! 🤣
The G3 seems to be crushing some background detail on the Revenant scene.
This why I buy the Japanese brands ,I have Panasonic LZ2000, Sony A95k and 8k jvc projector, they take movie processing seriously, and especially Panasonic and jvc you don't have to worry about your tv getting updated to fix the image and then brake something else ,Panasonic and jvc no updates to fix the image after owning them for almost 2 years lg and Samsung take notes .
14:41 Wow, does OLED really struggle this much with black crush in dark scenes? The fact that the background trees are just gone is wild to me... Is this just a major outlier, or is this common for really dark content on OLEDs?
Seems that way.
So what is the overall rankings between all this tvs I am trying to decide which on of these tvs to get this year????
I am upgrading this year from my 6 year old tv, and I really don’t understand which one of these to get….
for high end LCD go with X95L, for high end OLED go with A95L, for mid range OLED go with LG C3 or S90C
1:42 why so does the qn95c and Hisense look so blurry? No way they look like this in the store..
Will you be doing a x95L settings/calibration video
Good balanced and thorough review,! Thanks Vincent
I've noticed this with Apple's XDR displays. Not the most zones, but quite good algorithm to handle blooming. Though, I do with that number of zones was a good measure because it's very difficult (without great reviews like Vincent's) to know what mini LED performance will be like across brands and models.
Didnt even notice, but I remember the time you had 30k subs 😉and now 500k? GZ!
This video just reaffirms what I've suspected to be the case this year with the X95L compared with other mini-Led brands. I've always believed the dimming zone count and even the contrast ratios is a bit of spec marketing ploy to sway prospective buyers from one brand to other. The secret sauce does seem to be the processing which no matter the reviewer all agree, SONY is the leader with its processing.
dimming zones matter more than processing. If the image is good to start off with, why do you need to process it for?
@@DankePlacedumb...
@@damienmty3954 tell me why all processing is turned off when in game mode?
You must be new to basically everything.
To what extent does the blooming on the X95L affect real-life visuals, especially around subtitles?
Nothing perceptible imo. Have the 65 inch and black in a dark room are great.
@@Gurminder_SThank you for the response
All hail our King
Sony is still King of TV ♔
@@Soclean07always seem to lag behind P
@@hastensavoir7782 lack behind in what ?
@@Soclean07 picture quality Accuracy and Sound. Go ask Vinny.
@@hastensavoir7782lacking behind which brand ?
The Sony seems to ramp up/ramp down the backlight over like 0.2 or 0.3 seconds with the subtitles at 2:53 and that is TERRIBLE it should instantly adjust not leave a huge grey patch on a black background for 0.3 seconds after the white subtitle disappears.
Yeah, I’d just stick with Oled panels Vince. Still waiting for that MZ2000 review bro!
Not qtv? 🤣
I wonder if the samsung and LG mini LED TV have higher ceilings. Meaning with firmware update thanks to AI training using calibrated model like HX310 etc they can gett better tuning of the dimming zones offering more fidelity than 480 ones
Sony moving in with the literal "its not about the size, its about how you use it" 😂
14:40 Why does the lg g3 look so black-crushed?
Due to the very dark scene possible camera adaptation shouldn't be the reason, right?
The real truth is despite lg owners claiming lg has the best shadow detail and no black crush they’re full of shit clearly. Woled suffers from the same black crush as rgb oled. While qd oled is better it still has black crush but the key difference being you can turn on contrast enhancer for the darkest scenes and still have a good picture while there’s nothing you can do with the g3 without lifting the blacks to being completely washed out and looking like a green mess.This is a known issue to anyone but lg owners who are in compete denial and will fight you claiming it’s not black crush you’re seeing 😂
@@rahb2096 but vincent's near black gamma measurements matched the reference values quite well. Seems really contradictory
Shadow Details on lg woled tvs can be lifted by adjusting the low ire values of the white balance controls.
Review is top notch.
So black friday 2023 has 85"X95L for 3500 and A90J 83" for 3350 prices.. Which one to go for when watching movies in light controlled room (meaning dark) at 10.5 feet viewing distance? Any major difference with experience (size/PQ/HDR impact)?
After watching this video and reading other comments online, I think it’s fair to say that Sony has mastered its local dimming algorithm, which together with its class-leading XR processor make Sony’s premium LEDs worth the extra cash. If I watching TV in the daytime or in a bright room, this would be my first choice. For those of us who prefer Dolby Vision over HDR10, and watch TV in dimly-lit rooms, opting for the A80L or A95L makes more sense. The 65 inch A95L is gonna have a retail price of $3,499 in the US, so if Sony can stay within range of Samsung and LG by a couple hundred dollars then we can expect a competitive prices as the G3 and A95L go down in price. Samsung has already taken a couple hundreds off the A95C
Do you think Sony will update the mediatek chip and the TV processor for the 2024 models? As in using a new name other than XR processor, and having four HDMI 2. ports? I feel Sony will have a new processor next year because it is about the same time window when they upgrade.
Sony flexing its XR Backlight Master Drive 💪
Which led tv is support dual screen split screen multiview ??? Left side cctv Right side movie
I just bought the good old X65K in 65 inch (which is pretty similar to the new X65L) for just 1900 bucks !
It's a really great TV. Better than the rest !
Upscaling, motion handling and near black details could not be any better !
Blooming
@@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч XR power
Vinny and sony 🤝
Great in depth analysis as always
The conclusion people should arise isn’t that less zones is better, or “imagine what they could achieve with more zones”…it’s that there is actually a sweet spot between number of zones, performance and compromise, and that refinement takes a lot of “know how”, development and testing.
@hdtvtest, how does this year's X95L compare against X95K for subtitles and the blooming effect?
Sony’s algorithm tax is worth it!
Yep
Upvoted for the kegel exercise reasons!
But if Sony can do so much with fewer zones, why not ratchet up the zones and do even better? Is adding zones very costly or is there some other issue with adding zones?
cost is likely the main one. If they added zones they'd either have to make the tv alot more expensive or cut into their profit margin.
@@dubsynczz why is adding zones costly? isn't it just a function of processing power? they have one of the best chips in the business
@jc2126: What @dubsynczz said is correct. More dimming zones require more LEDs + more advanced controller, which drives up the cost. It just doesn't make business sense, when Sony (or any other company) can just buy OLED panels with pixel-level light control at a cheaper price...
Yeah… they need more powerfull contoller… Not sure if there are suitable in the market?
@@hdtvtest I love the brightness of my Z9G and Z9K. the blooming is the only thing that really bothers me. I thought more zones with Mini LED would solve that issue.
Best tv reviewer hands down!
Well spoken!
Will you please make a video on how to calibrate the 2023 Sony 85” X90L
Great video.
Thankyou Vincent. Its a shame the Sony is only available in 65 and higher..too big for our front room.
I myself felt the QN95C had more reference monitor skin tones..but Sony had better highlights and looked more appealing.
What would be the best mini led tv then? Without counting samsung models
Will you also review the Bravia 7?
this year i had for couple of weeks the:
Samsung qn900B 8k = most blooming and unbearable rainbow effect on screen, couldn't tolerate that so I returned.
then the Sony X95L= I've tried my best to get that tv to bloom but was impossible, oled picture quality but without that depth (3d effect) the reason for the return was the motion Blur on fast action scenes, tried for 2 weeks with all the settings and motion control but no success.
now currently I have the Hisense UXK 65inch with about 1500 dimming zones: I can confirm that it has less blooming than the qn900b but is nowhere near the x95l regarding the perfect blooming control, but the motion blur is better than the sony.
after all this test I'm going back to oleds, ordered the G3, you always going to miss that deep depth that oleds gives you. the mini leds always gives you that 2d flat image which i'm not used to it anymore after 8 years of oleds
Maybe u should try the ips panel mini led I have the qn85b it's ips panel and it's more natural looking then the va panel mini led. I belive the qn95c is a ips panel to. Ips panels have better motion handling then va panels
@@wingedhussar1453 I didn't know that, unfortunately is to late now, I ordered the G3
@-darwin-2422 u stil got something better then most va panels with the hisense xuh .it has 144hrtz out of the box which is an upgrade in motion supposbly .I donr kno how much compared to an ips mini led. The qn85 I have is good in motion but since it's samsung they add a bit of smoothing .but in my opinion better then va panel. I also owned two oleds before this a Sony and LG. Both had cons the Sony one was beatiful but the picture was bit unnatural stil i liked it alot. The lg c1 oled was ok great motion but so dim and lacking in that wow pop picture you expect I sold it
I have the lg 65 oled c8 from 2018, what are the differences that you would consider its worth upgrading to G3?
@@ffmde8268 first the picture quality on G3 is not different from the c9, but all rest are huge improvements.
two times more Brightness, and most importantly for us that this trash reviewers are not telling is the durability of the oled's panel. Thanks to the heatsink after 5 months of use I still haven't seen a image retention not even for 1 sec, that's good for the risk of burn-in in the future.
with the c8, c9 and cx u have from day one image retention on bright images and in my personal experience with the c9 after 2 years the pixel started to degrade, soon after the colours were not even half of what used to be and eventually got burn in after 2 1/2 years of daily normal use.
people think burn in starts spontaneously but no, it will give you first the signs above mentioned.
with the g3 im pretty shore it will last at least 5 years without a single sign of burn in.
the auto dimming is also way better that the c9.
Ive enjoyed every sony tv Ive owned. Also, nice review as usual!