Jim Cornette on Wrestlers Calling Themselves Performance Artists
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2019
- From Episode 296 of The Jim Cornette Experience!
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I don't understand why those people find the word "professional wrestler" so offensive. Stop wrestling if you're ashamed of the term that's been used by all those who established the very industry you're in.
Because all they've ever known was the WWE style.
That's like being ashamed to be called a "welder", and you instead change it to "metal with heat manipulator"!😂
Thank you
Corny is the only real heel with real heat left
Corny is our antihero
MJF. All other wrestlers i follow are retired or passed away.
or Babyace, depending
@@ralphlowrey Remember when JBL got fired from CNN because of his Nazi salutes in Germany to get heat from the audience. Al Snow said one time that wrestling is a mirror of society and yea today, people would be screaming for a ban if a heel would be saying racist remarks.
MJF gets folks trying to jump the rails a good few times
Imagine at the time telling Harley Race or David Schultz they're performing artists? Lol
Roman Reigns called himself a performance fighter last week.
that would have been some big slaps coming lol
Harley Race would have cold-cocked everyone in sight up.
OPEN HAND SLAP
Harley Race put on fake fights for a living how the fuck is he not a performance artist dummy.
" I told to go play in traffic, Thats the only way he'll be in front of a crowd" Lmmfao god Corny is so good
That was a fantastic line.
I LOVE that line!!!
Jim is the only person in the business who can stoke a fire and generate decent heat.
A wrestler making people laugh has been easy.
Making them care or cry because the happenings in the ring is the true form of wrestling.
They certainly make Corny cry. Does that count?
Eddie Guerrero winning the WWE title.
Chris Benoit winning the world title. The image of the referee handing him the title, but he’s on his knees and just crying is the image of the century, and Eddie Guerrero embracing Chris after the title win was amazing.
That’s what I believe Jim is talking about. I mean anyone can win a title and it change hands, but it’s an art to put on the type of match against Triple H and Shawn Michaels as well as Brock Lesnar, respectively
"I'm an equal opportunity cusser outer." -The Legend Jim Cornette
its sad knowing that Sports Entertainer is more legit than Performance Artist.
Sad? Damn shame 💯
right
fmdof WWE is now the serious promotion
@Elreypachuco sometimes it is a real contest
These people need be paid in invisible money
Why I bet one time or another you paid real money 4 chicken fingers and we all know they don't have any so those are fake too LOL
Or Monopoly money
They do get paid in non existent money 😂
Context is everything. We must protect Jim at all costs.
Agreed!
Fuck u christopher
Christopher Sanchez build that wall
Trump is the ultimate snowflake if you don’t see that you are blind or a Nazi.
@Apharmd Battler Ha, how wrong you were, son
Rule number one of being in the wrestling business.
When you insult the wrestling business, it's like biting the hand that feeds you
This is what you get when the marks are in the ring and not in the crowd. We know wrestling is a work. We've known for decades and generations. Our grandparents knew. This isn't some new ground broken in the internet age. Fans want to buy into the gimmick, though. Even today the most over gimmicks are ones that are protected like when Matt was Broken or Bray Wyatt right now. The fans don't care who the "real person" is unless you're an old legend.
@@BeeRawb Yes. They knew. There's even an old poll out of a North Carolina newspaper that backs this up in the early 80s where 97% of people said they thought wrestling was fake and this is in the middle of the super kayfabed era of southern wrestling. People just reacted to the shows differently because there was more suspension of disbelief and it was easier to get sucked into what the talent were selling. As a kid I had a teacher who was in her 50's and mocked a kid for being a big wrestling fan because its "all fake". My grandparents made remarks about it being fake when I watched it at their place. I also remember Al Snow telling the story of him telling his grandmother that he wanted to be a wrestler and her saying "why do you want to do that? Don't you know its fake?"
People have known decades before the internet and decades before Vince Russo started doing that silly nonsense in WCW in 2000. Its just back then they lived it and had to work hard to sell that they were real. Today they just play video games during the day and play wrestler at night and act like a bunch of normal dudes. That's why there's also no true superstars. Fans don't want normal dudes. They want larger than life characters like when we were kids. When I was 7 I knew the Undertaker wasn't really dead. When I was a little older I knew in real life Kurt Angle would beat everyone, but they worked to sell the fans a story. Now guys just do their fake little match and shake hands at the end and laugh on Twitter. The business isn't dead because of it, but its whittled down to the most hardcore fans largely due to it. Kids and casual fans don't want to watch fake fighters being regular people.
And yes heels were legit hated but its because they sold it. No one wants to be hated today. Everyone wants to be a cool heel that isn't really evil but just kind of a dick. Then you got the lazy folk who want to say faces and heels don't matter that way they can just go out there and work spot fests to get a few gifs RT'ed on Twitter.
I find it hard to believe that riots broke out during the territory days were started by people who knew wrestling wasn't real. I can't imagine being a fan and wanting to participate in an angry mob knowing full well that the villain was simply doing the job he was paid to do.
I can't imagine fans knew Junk Yard Dog didn't really get blinded by The Fabulous Freebirds and sent him sympathy cards and money anyway. I can't imagine those same fans willingly pulled a gun out on The Freebirds at later event in an attempt to protect a "blinded" JYD if they knew it was all a story.
@@BeeRawb See, the thing back back then there was something called "heat" which could get very real. No one really gets heat anymore. Everyone knew it was a show, though. People just got invested in it more because the talent were committed and sold themselves better. Today's wrestlers look and act like any dude I can find at any gym in the country.
Even when riots broke out it was like "yeah we know its not real BUT WE AREN'T GONNA LET THAT GUY SAY THAT ABOUT US" If today's heel wrestlers weren't afraid of being truly hated by the fans there'd still be scuffles and trash thrown in the ring at least. But now they act like its fake, they tell you its fake, they work like its fake.
@@BeeRawb You misunderstand a little. I didn't say they knew it was scripted. I said they knew it was fake. Wrestling wasn't scripted back then. The scripts were a WWE thing that started around 2002. So, the promos came off much more real, too back then.
Being featured in Heckel's graphical work is the closest most of these people will ever come to art.
Cornette keeps it real. Wish Bobby the brain would of had a podcast.
Yeah we all lost out on that one. Him most of all but damn out of all the cancer's to get, throat. He would have been so entertaining.
Ted Bell , Bobby’s shoot interviews with Corny are on RUclips. They are really interesting and insightful, with both Corny and the Brain swapping great wrestling stories. The interview conducted by Newark Airport did have some audio issues but you could still understand the gist of the conversations.
can you imagine how entertaining the BrainCast wold have been!?!
1st thing he would do, is call you a ham-n-egger for using 'would of'.
Isn't this like how strippers call themselves exotic dancers? Or fast food employees tell folks they work in the food industry?
they're not burger flippers, they're 'service champions'
@Ra HoWa fuck off
Ra HoWa lol you probably one of those guys that feels he has the right to say the N word just cause black people say it 😂
JaviFuego93 Free speech is a great thing my friend. Come bastard.
I assume being a teacher she must get a lot of jokes so to soften the blow and keep her day job she just says performance artist?
More heat on Jim's twitter page than there is in what's left of the wrestling industry.
Ironically, Andy Kauffman was the greatest performance artist, but he respected wrestling and was more over than this entire generation of 'sports entertainers.' And this chick probably never heard of him...
Calling themselves "performance artists" is also probably the only way they can get Patreon accounts.
take notes: this is how to be a heel manager.
He has nothing to stand on concerning those who don't think much of show wrestling since there is no support for those who actually wrestling.
@@user-hc9qv9yb9m cornette was in the business at every single level. he deserves respect. now his ranting is a bit too much at times but at least he has passion and cares.
@@SAM-ru4vx That goes to my point. He was never in the sport of wrestling but the business
@@user-hc9qv9yb9m memphis and mid-south regions in the 80s took it very seriously tho.
308328928 He took a LOT of physical bumps, he was up to the neck in it.
Cirque Du Soiel has performance artists
Wrestling has wrestlers.
packleader87 Learn to spell Soleil first buddy
All Elite Punk it's youtube not a fucking spelling bee get over yourself
Nope. MMA has wrestlers. The NCAA has wrestlers.
@@jpowers55 So chad gable, dolph ziggler, brock, angle, shelton benjamin, etc, don't count as wrestlers?
Try calling Haku a performance artist
I still say she should have just rebranded as Jordynne 'Buttaface' Grace and ran with it.
That's skill - when you can take something and make it your own.
Like Jelly Nutella.
I love Cornette
man. Always 100% honest. Never change dude
“Go shit on some French Fries!” HAHA!
A GG Allin reference!!!
19:22
These Performance Artists are not wrestlers trying to get over with the fans. They are compiling a portfolio of acting scenes that they think they are going to be able to give to a casting agent in a few years to act in tv or movies. They all think they are going to be the next Rock.
my wife " who isnt butterface" answered jims question about the definition of butterface before i could answer.
“Go play in traffic” 🤣🤣🤣☠️
Poeple are just weak I really miss the old wrestling style where u earned your place through respect.
"Butterface" is a term of endearment; she should have been happy.
It was the _butter_ part that didn't go well
Corny is surprised sjws went after him. The cluelessness is funny
Jim cornette is such a great human being, saves wrestling and gives to important things.
Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit. Ultimate Submission match. Now that's art.
Yes
@@iBmEVanquisher You are saying something that I've been saying for a while. That's also part of the reason why WWE has sunk to where it is. OVEREXPOSURE
There's no wrestling anymore. It's all Sports Entertainment. Thanks to Vince McMahon for that
Finally someone gets it! Thank You!
I agree I put the blame on the promoters who keep giving these fucks work.
@bingbangboozygetinthejacuzzi While I blamed Vince McMahon, Vince Russo and Kevin Dunn for inspiring these dumb fuck to get in the business.
Wrestling has always been sports entertainment. The Attitude era was sports entertainment and it was awesome. Apparently "real wrestling" nowadays is indy mark, thigh slapping spotfests.
@@firstroundboxing1138 No. Its the AWL
I have never laughed so hard at the perfection of Cornette's insults!
Love the GG Allin reference!! Never thought really thought of him as a performance artist until now now, but I definitely think your right in that call. So puts her calling herself a performance artist instead if a wrestler in a different spotlight, I'm sure she be thrilled to know she's considered in the same ranks as GG Allin!! 😁😂
And that my friend is why I love Jim Cornette!
I love Jimmy. Thank you for trying to talk sense into morons.
Butterface vs Butterbean LOL
Who is the butterface he’s talking about?
Female wrestler named Jorden Grace I believe her name is
@jlindsey241 her face isn’t that bad I’d hit that
With special guest referee Bart Gunn lol.
Never change Corny 😂😂😂
Kenny (Omega) Olivier : "This is my art. I perform an Art."
My art..
Kenny Olivier is the one true Lord of the Seven Indy Kingdoms, the Budoki of Japan, and Protector of the AEW realm. All Hail His Grace.
Kenny Olivier is 1 of the most funniest fuckin names cornettes ever came up with shit too funny 😂
Fuck Kenny Omega. i' actually rooting for NWA. fuck aew.
@@zomb60 WWE literally has a performance center. Why does Jim never shit on WWE?
Equal opportunity Cuser outter LOL
That yappy fing mouth in the middle of it. lol
I felt that when he started talking about watching for knives and people swinging at him. It gives real insight to how real heat was back in his days
Anyone who thinks we need funny and silliness tell Every wrestler who put their heart and soul into this business tell them that then please. Let me know how it goes okay?
They have to tell this to scott steiner
@@arthurdaffos1490 right scott would be very pissed about it and eat some apples while he's kicking the shit out of anyone who thinks we need funny shit in pro wrestling.
These same people who say the business needs fun and silliness, shit all over WWE for being "fun and silliness". They're only turning to AEW, because WWE's "fun and silliness" isn't the "fun and silliness" they want.
Blame the old bucks for killing wrestling
We all know kayfabe isn't what is used to be but it isn't dead. Kayfabe is still important damn it. That is why I have such respect for masked luchadors who never break character or always wear the mask.
Jim is always a great listen.
Like always the man talked sense and made some great points.
And the outro singing *All in the family* tune Pure GOLD
Indeed those were the days 👍
Britney_ 2Savage what great points?
"I told him to play in traffic. It's the only way he's in front of a fucking crowd." Savage....
Twitter is a battle field now 😂😂
Lol Jim beefin with everyone
I’m dying this is great from Jim. Thank you for this
Everything that Jim Cornette is saying is SPOT ON!!! Many of these youngsters have no idea! Many wrestlers paved the way for them to become pro wrestlers! And neither of them are trying to protect the business!!! I'm old school and I am all for it being called a sport!!! Keep on keeping on Jim!!!
holy shit jim cornette just said g.g. allin. talk about the completely opposite end of the spectrum
How can you call out MLW like that let alone Jim himself and not get sued? Because it does actually harm buisness right?
I'm no expert, but I think it has to do with whether or not what someone says can be considered a matter of personal opinion. Cornette has even mentioned he had to deal with that when WWE was having him do his shoot interviews on WCW back in the day.
I thought calling her Butter-face was being generous.
Well Jim has no room to call another woman a butterface, when his wife is a fat, disgusting landwhale herself
@@scottbreon9448 that seems very harsh
zombietwinkies44
Another #triggered outrage culturist...smh
@shepramsey6 she’s got a little bit cushion
You believe the planet is melting 😂. Jim cornett gone crazy
I'm not a fan of Jim's politics but I am 10000000% behind the whole Everything offends everyone thing. We were a lot stronger back then. Eventually the bully got theirs back in the day but today they are multiplying because no one is punching them in the face
Fuck trump
This was hilarious! It was awesome seeing idiots get their feelings hurt for no reason. Jim is a lightning rod!--awesome work!
I fucking love Jim Cornette! 😂
*God damn Jim’s a fucking legend.*
Jim has so much passion for wrestling. I love it. I don't agree with his politics but Jim's Respect for the biz. Is AWESOME. BUTTERFACE. Ha ha.
If Corny saw Jordynne Grace vs. Orange Cassidy match I think his head would explode
Oh dear lord, butterface and pockets...
Shushhhhh we don't say his name around here. He's known as 'Pockets'
In an Invisible hand grenade on pole match, Chuck Taylor special guest ref and all booked by Russo.
@@InfamousRelliK I can see this happening, and don't forget about Mr. Dickspot!
Goddamnit I love when Corny is just that damn close to really losing his shit!!!!😂😂😂He's so right though.
Great Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
"If you don't have any respect for the wrestling business... I don't have any respect for you!"
Gauntlet is THROWN DOWN.
Articulate and to the point, once again. Well done, Corny!
It's a shame how MLW hasn't been granted a weekly television deal yet.
Definitely popcorn worthy.
Did I just hear Jim make a G.G. Allin reference?
Corny, why haven’t you watched NJPW? Guys like Cobb, Ishii and Shingo are the living embodiment of what you and I and the rest of the level headed wrestling fan base believe wrestling should be, yet I don’t think I’ve ever even heard the words New Japan come out of your mouth.
Check out Moxley and Ishii from this year’s G1 or Ishii vs Cobb from the same tournament. Moxley has been doing fantastic work bringing legitimacy back to his career and the work Josh Barnett has done has been phenomenal. He has legitimate shoot wrestling matches against legit shooters and submits the fuck out of people. He’s also hosting a tournament called Bloodsport, which from my understanding is a worked shoot promotion. Don’t get me wrong, I love to hear Jimmy verbally destroy every goofball Indy cocksucker today, but it’d be cool to hear his thoughts on one of those other topics I mentioned above. Thanks guys! Brian, you’re the fuckin man
Daniel Casteel Because negative draws
I would love to see Jim’s thoughts on Toru Yano
Wally Rosario that’s about the only thing in NJPW he’d hate, but I actually wouldn’t mind hearing Jim rip into Yano’s ass too.
It's 2019 and Jim still did nothing wrong
"And i had some fun, on all ya'll expense"
-Jim Cornette 2021
It is like a performance art in a way, now be a good method actor and become the role and live it out.
Do you think that 'performance artists' would get injuries like the ones wrestlers get. It is and always has been a sport.
There's no such thing as a sport where the outcome is traditionally pre-determined. It goes against the very basis of sport, which is real competition based on rules.
So, wrestling is not a sport, but it is tough and athletic and entertaining. I don't know why certain wrestlers and fans aren't satisfied with that.
To be fair yes.
Wrestlers get torn muscles,broken limbs,serious head injuries and some have even died from them if that isn't the definition of a sport what does it matter if it is predetermined. The competitors have to be athletes just like other sportsmen. You can be killed in the ring just the same as a football field. So it is a sporting contest.
@@christempleton9763 It's not a sporting contest. The 'competitors' are not competing against one another. In fact, they're cooperating in order to portray a competitive fight in the same way actors might portray a scene.
Sport has nothing to do with how many physical injuries you might sustain. It's to do with actual competition. The only competition in wrestling is wrestlers striving to win the attention of the audience, but they're no different from theatre players in that sense.
@@christempleton9763 all of that stuff being true, performance artists also suffer those types of of injuries on The Daily.
The great part is when David Starr white knighted for her...
"Corny is a racist, misogynist, sexist blah blah..."
Lmao
is that the same little asshole who's claiming he'll unionize wrestling?
@@tw475 yep. Hes a grifter dudes is a joke
Joey Janella was "shot" on a outlaw mudshow called GCW today
time someone shot him
Trending off the butter face. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Man I enjoy listening to cornette! Lol. Definitely keeps that shit real. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
If you kids are watching...this is how a real man talks...complete truths at all costs...minus all the swearing of course...love ya Corny.
I thought this was going to be about Roman Reigns calling himself a Performance Fighter
I love that Corny knows who GG Allin is
Now Rob Clooney is following me lmao, cause I told her that, Ricky Morton has even said on record that you can bury anyone in the business . Love it Jim
I stand by you Jim
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
I’ve heard Ric Flair say himself that engaging in a verbal battle with Jim Cornette is a bad idea & bad place to be.
That said , why would these uninteresting & un-clever “performance artists” run right into the fan blades like this?
Really there is an answer & it’s because many people will gladly accept negative attention in lieu of no attention. It’s not only pathetic, but it is indicative of dysfunctional upbringings ( which is too bad as that part is not their fault , however the personality traits it has caused IS their responsibility to either address & work on )
Cosplay wrestler, Corny never ceases to amaze me, Corny for Prez. 2020!
❤️ Corny, he's a f--kin riot😅
If they are so great "performer artists" then why they're not in Broadway? Or why the media usually thinks is "a soap opera for men"?
Those "wrestlers" are deluded, they're like those graffiti marks that do shitty tags from a magazine and think they are artists.
Wait....people really paint other peoples shit out of magazines? Thats some wack ass shit
That's honestly where they should be. I seriously mean that. Like what are they even doing in wrestling if they want to be like this?
@@laysdong At least in México City it's pretty common to see tags straight out of a magazine; a lot of kids love to paint shit everywhere but they are limited with their skills and, back in the day, Hip Hop culture in México was at his peak but we lacked a lot of information in the graffiti and break dance department so it was easy for anyone to steal styles from magazines lol.
But, gladly, we have a strong mural painting culture so the best graffiti you're going to see all around the country are the murals.
Wrestling nowdays is just like that, just Heaven graffiti with no original style. (And thanks for answering, it brought back cool memories) lol
@@osaji922 We both know the answer: they are rejects.
Take Omega for example: good athlete but not good enough for gymnastic olympics, horrible acting for any artistic activity... only wrestling would accept this shit.
By that logic why aren't the "real" wrestlers in the Olympics or MMA?
Speaking of t-shirts, now I absolutely must own one that quotes JC: "I could give a french-fried titty fuck". 😂🤣
WHY IS IT TABOO TO CALL THEM "WRESTLERS" THE BIG COMPANY IS LITERALLY CALLED "WORLD WRESTLING ENT."
Jimmy...when i was a kid, my grandmother loved to watch you and the Midnight Express on TBS and when you guys were in Mid South. Actually me and my brother first saw u on the Memphis wrestling show on Saturday mornings. We were able to watch on our local tv in Middlesboro Ky.
Did you see the tweet from Roman Reigns as he refers himself as a performance fighter
He's a fucking artist he says, naked with that chainsaw saw buzzing around everywhere!
This is why I love listening to cornette lmfao 😂
Want to make it big in the wrestling business, but can't get a look from WWE. Start a twitter feud with Jim Cornette and he will make you famous.
She got a point tho. Outlaw mudshow cosplay wrestlers view themselves as performance artists cos thats what wrestling is to them. Sadly.
I may not agree with everything Jim has to say but he is a riot to listen to.... :D
"The Incomparable Mr. Burnside?" Sorry, I never saw that play. Is that by Brecht, by any chance?
I really like Grace. Shes my favorite in TNA these days. Like her in ring work, has good charisma, and shes entertaining to follow on Twitter. However, I dont like that too many wrestlers dont take it seriously. Kayfabe was the draw even more than good matches. The wrestlers and their personas drew you in, the good matches they had added to it all and kept you watching. It's honestly hard to take anyone truly seriously these days.
Because MMA exists. Duh.
Imagine calling The Undertaker a performance artist!
17:14 🤣 😆😅😁😂
@11:35 so true Jim. The people who say we should just have a laugh about wresting are unfunny and constantly offended