Jim Cornette on Silliness In Wrestling & Chikara
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Watching him go from indifferent to flat out loathing of Joey Janella is a joy to go back and relive 😂😂😂
8:41 The "Fire Ant" who lost is now Cornette's "favorite wrestler": Orange "Pockets" Cassidy.
And the even more ironic truth is that his Fire Ant persona had way better feuds, story arcs, emotional depth and unforgettable moments than the Orange Cassidy character ever will.
@@kayokango agreed
Fire Ant turned out to be pockets 😂
Don't
When Jim reads the names on that card, in total disbelief, is absolutely hilarious. It's gold.
Jim Cornette reading off Chikara event cards is oddly funny.
"Ursa Minor In The Sky defeated The Proletariat Of Moldovia!" 😄😄
the thumbnail makes me cry in tears already 😂😂😂
Listening to this makes me want to cry.I think back to when i would watch wrestling in the sam houston colosium every Friday night.I never even dreamed wrestling would come to what it is now.It really is sad.😢😢😢
Paul Bosch! Seems like Mr. Norman was the only man you could trust...
Not gonna lie the "boring" wrestler thing sounds kinda fun.
Cajun Crawdad, Hermit 🦀 , and Ursa Minor in the Sky had me laughing.
"what?"
"I don't know what to tell you, I don't fuckin' know"
LMAO!
That he mentions pockets here is absolutely brilliant. Because everyone is totally afraid of fire ant. Fuck me
God. Why cant bookers/owners/etc stay away from booking themselves as world champion?
The Evil Architect Bill Ding doesn't sound so bad anymore
He'd fit right in at Chikara.
Its Bill Durr get your Gilbertisms together 😂😂😂
I’m in tears that wrestling company allowed a game of limbo in a wrestling match 😂. I think I’d actually see Invisible boy vs Joe Boring. At least that way they’d pretend it’s real.
Its almost like hes talking about AEW
It's nothing like aew.
@@alihassan-ve3hw Bulk of the AEW roster is these losers
@@darrengordon-hill so is wwe. Daniel bryan, cesaro, drew gulak, seth rollins, sami zayne, kevin Owen's. They all came through CHIKARA. I'm probably forgetting some
@@alihassan-ve3hw And with the exception of sami zayne none of them made a name for themselves there they were already known and if anything gave chikara some shine not vice versa
AEW didn't exist when this was originally taped.
So what happens if Joseph Boring ("The King of Slow Style") has a match with The King of Sloth Style (Cornette's favorite wrestler Orange "Pockets" Cassidy)? Will the match ever start?
Joseph Boring actually sounds hilarious. Especially if he comes out and is seriously trying to win his matches with the headlocks & bear hugs. In today’s high-flying wrestling atmosphere, I think an AEW audience would get behind the Boring gimmick and start cheering him on ironically. Every time he slapped on a wrist lock, the AEW fans would immediately start screaming “booorrring!” And Joseph Boring would start to “hulk up” and lock on the rest holds even tighter while nodding his head in approval of the fans cheers.
Don’t give them any ideas lol.
Didn't ECW do that first? I could be wrong, but wasn't that basically Danny Doring's gimmick? The crowd was saying "BORING", he thought they'd say "DORING" and would keep doing boring shit.
Not gonna lie. I love the Joseph Boring idea lmao
Ripped off from Danny Doring
Corny is in 7 Wrestling Hall of Fames, including the Cauliflower Alley, NWA, New England Wrestling HOF, Wrestling Observer, Memphis Wrestling HOF, Wresting HOF, Southern Wrestling HOF. Enough Said
7x HOF. Infinite time best heater.
is it thou ?
It's almost like he never supported outlaw mudshow bullshit throughout his whole career. Jazz hands ain't got nothin on that
I love Corny, but all of those are bullshit except Cauliflower Alley. Nobody gives a fuck about New England Wrestling HOF. Also, stop saying enough said after making a statement. The only thing worse is saying "Nuff said". Be better.
@@GangstaSparkleFairy they say that the Wrestling Observer HOF is the best kayfabe HOF out there so
I popped when he said Freddy Flamingo the Fourth
This reminds me of some of the nonsense I saw years ago when I was doing e-wrestling (basically like an RPG but wrestling-themed). You had people show up with oddball gimmicks that usually got laughed at. One of them was actually some sort of intergalactic superhero wrestling where you really were like aliens or mutants, but that was specifically for a joke.
How many MUDSHOW panes of glass has your head been through?
Was it Kris Statlander?
I think I remember e-wrestling. It was done via forums right ? That was a long time back if I recall correctly. Even before MUDs or MUSHes
Those names are still better than Braden Walker
Loved CHIKARA, and miss it. It was charming for its silliness and earnestness and completely bizarre world-building. It stood out, wasn't afraid to push boundaries and try different things. It's cool to shit on it and call it childish, but isn't the whole 'sport' childish? Give me something creative and weird and different from the mind of Quack, over reheated and overcooked (booked) AEW tedium anyday.
Thats okay. I have trash that I like too.
To me it was (that promotion) like it was written by a frustrated fan fiction guy that clearly loved movies like Alien, Ultraman the Japanese anime stuff and the Star Trek stuff. Evil corporations and superheroes, convoluted stories only the most hardcore of fans understand and follow. A nerd/hipster combo of fan that thrives on being in a closed community with other gatekeeper types. Believe it or not that’s not intended as an insult. People like what they like and they were around a long time.
CHIKARA was awesome. 🙂
Fire ant is the former identity of orange cassidy.....suprise suprise
If I was booked against an invisible man and asked to lose I’m definitely pulling a screw job
The comment sections in these type of videos are always popcorn worthy. When Corny bashes an indie promotion/indie wrestlers, he's a bitter, out of touch fat old man. But when he bashes anything WWE, he's a wrestling genius and every promotion needs to hire him. I get it, people disagree with him on the former and agree with him on latter, but it's just fjnny seeing people flip flop.
CORNETTE IS RIGHT I HAVE SEEN SOME THIS BULLSHIT HE IS TALKING ABOUT PURE GARBAGE
He's right on both accounts.
Not all of us flip flop i agree with Corny's take on both wwe and indie promotions, he may be old fashioned in some respects but he does know his stuff and still has a lot to offer if pro wrestling has any future
Definition of outlaw mud show
ruclips.net/video/En1TMCKxbe8/видео.html
@@thekidfromiowa it's just sad, imagine a sane person walking into a bar and seeing that shit
I'd rather see Ophidian than anyone in the WWE today.
WWE is not that good at handling gimmicks, they'll kill the character as soon as he's signed.
Finally, someone with actual common sense. 🙏🏻
Just imagine what Jim would say after seeing Kaiju Big Battel. Where a giant bug may wrestle a can of soup.
Naaaaah I was not trying to find out who Bubble Von Pop is 😊
Some characters that would appear in "Mud Show Championship Wrestling" in my opinion:
R.J. Rottencrotch - A guy who is apparently sexually frustrated and takes it out on everyone else. His finisher is called the "Rick Plex" where he flips other wrestlers with his "Richard"
Francis J. Shuttlecock XVI - A snobbish rich kid with a W.C. Fields like accent, and a Wyatt Earp mustache. His finisher is called the Credential, a move similar to a Pedigree.
Average Joe - A nice guy who doesn't always win, but puts on a good showing and gets over with the fans based on his tenacity.
He has a .500 record in wrestling.
Jim Nasium - A meat head who claims that he can bench press 1,000 lbs. Nasium is quite arrogant and says he has won 25 consecutive Mr. Olympia contests.
Japan - A female wrestler who has held both men's and women's titles. She is called the "Tenth Wonder of the World"
Lenny Alpha - The evil twin brother of Kenny Omega. He is extensively called the "Dirtier" and causes chaos in every promotion he works for.
The Young Schmucks - A couple of brothers who are complete buffoons. They exclusive wrestle 8 year old kids.
Dipshit Dave - A guy who is supposed to be a character from the Howard Stern Show. Dave gets over with his clumsiness and stupidity. He's a man who bears a physical resemblance to Cosmo Kramer from Seinfeld
The Bingo Man - A guy in a mask and a matching outfit who comes out to the ring managed by Old Lady Esther.
Bug Zapper - An exterminator turned wrestler. He stands at almost 7'0" and is close to 300 lbs. His finisher is called the "Pesticide" which is a standing double under hook butterfly piledriver. He sports an undefeated record currently as a lot of people are afraid of him. He also employs a chokeslam as an alternative finisher.
you actually wrote this shit out
The Young Schmucks actually exist. They are Executive VPs.
tearindaclubup SAVAGE😜
@@Siccmade666 I gave it a lot of thought.
Honestly, I was starting a comedy wrestling promotion in WWE 2K19 and I think I’m going to use these characters, these are great! Good work!
Idk, Joseph Boring actually sounds like it'd be funny as hell. Not on a mainstream show, but some local bullshit promotion, it's cute lol.
Lince Dorado. Claudio. Kimber Lee. Drew Gulak. Sara del Rey. Luke Harper. All of them were long time chikara people.
The cream always rises to the top. I will give Quack credit for his long term storytelling and the idea behind "The Big Rig." It was a simple look that worked so well, Harper was able to use it for most of his WWE run. But let's be honest, if you looked at Harper and didn't think he could make money anywhere he wanted, you're kidding yourself.
And Claudio... I saw a lot of the matches he was in. He looked like a man among boys in Chikara. He was either taller than them, more muscular than them, or both. The dude is 6'5", has seen the inside of a gym, and is one of the best wrestlers in the world. He may not be a top guy, but he is gonna get work wherever he wants.
Sara doesn't get enough credit for what she has accomplished. She is the reason behind the Women's Revolution, more than anyone else.
@@BrokenSaintRW AJ Styles and Bryan Danielson worked there too
Awesome
Corny's rants are even better than Mike Graham and his claims that pretty much every wrestler ever "never drew a dime" lol
I thought Jim was going to say what that guy sent in that email actually happened. I wanna go see them! lol
I think Joseph Boring is ripping off Danny Doring of ECW.
I think Chikara just got some free promotion.
Bubble von pop! 😆😆
The Invisible Man wrestled in the wwf in 1999 whenever he took on Al Snow
I can't find the Bubble Von Pop chick anywhere
I think GCW stole these ideas
When I saw the vid, I already knew that Cornette would be shittin all over this. I have to say, I enjoyed CHIKARA from time to time. It wasn't the most serious thing in Wrestling, but it was funny to me, and that was their aim I guess
Survey time!! How many people looked up Bubbly Von Pop after listening to this?
Me
I did lol
I looked it up just after reading this comment. Was not mentioned in the video yet.
JFC. when I was younger in the later 90s we did "e-wrestling" which was roleplaying online as wrestlers in a federation. And it wasn't as stupid as some of those crazy gimmicks (although you did get the occasional joke gimmick). Although I could have seen people using gimmicks like Bubbles von Pop and Joseph Boring, that could have been funny. But some of those are ridiculous, and even in e-wrestling would have gotten laughed at.
9:00 say everything about today's wrestling .
Fire Ant the future Orange Cassidy.
if you play a fisher man you can call him fore master-baiter
and this is the guy who wrestled a man in a ninja turtle outfit, he did it for the kids tho... lol
Whatever you old billy goat! Chikara was dope, the colony was fire and it was great fun. Some of the talent that is loved now came from here so whatever! Lol
Cornette used to book Brian Hildebrand as a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
On spot shows, as he has explained.
It was play wrestling for a hardcore group of hipster/nerds that love Japanese comics and the Alien franchise. I used to read the results to all the big Indy shows when that promotion was hot and if you weren’t somehow in the know it read like a bad comic book. “Urgan the Usurper was recruited by The Katannaniki corporation to take out Mike Quakenbush. They didn’t know he had reprogrammed Ultraman45 by having Sky Whisperer seduce him with his favorite nutrient bar” ugh just lame.
WWE is for ✡️ and hipsters.
What???
@@SartorialisticSavage65 I had a stroke reading this comment that this actual hipster Jim Cornette fan made.
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 I hope you don’t recover.
@@SartorialisticSavage65 asking the wrong one.
Based on this clip I feel like Jim would watch the movie Airplane! and complain that it wasn't realistic enough.
Hes covered the difference between other forms of media and wrestling.
There's a big difference between wrestling and movies
@@jessieb9384 But there isn't really theyre both forms of story telling and we all know both of these mediums are fake.
There needs to be a commission that governs wrestling in the US, like there is in Mexico, and Cornette should be in charge of it. Each region would have an officially licensed promoter that agrees to promote wrestling properly and "outlaw" shows (like Chikara, IWA-MS and CZW) would be prohibited.
What do you think the NWA was? Why do you think the NWA has been a moot point in the biz for most of the last 30 years?
This Judaicum comment did age well. 😂
10:20 thank me later lol
Russo manfield??is he a manchild of Vince Russo and Eddie Mansfield??😂😝
just one look at the thumbnail and you'll get why this is so ridiculous
I quite enjoy Chikara, actually. The actual in-ring stuff isn't great, but I enjoy the colorful and unique characters you wouldn't find in the boring old territories or in ROH or NJPW.
Those "boring old territories" drew bigger crowds and drew more money than Chikara could ever dream of
Chikara has been around for 15 years, have trained some really great wrestlers and are way more consistent in their storytelling then any of the major promotions.
That doesn't mean some people might not find Chikara more entertaining, nor that there's anything wrong with that.
Chikara's storytelling is better than anything in Jim Cornett's ROH run.
Bubble Von Pop could get over.
Jim I love ya but don't hate on chikara, it gives comedy wrestling a place it's better to have it mostly in chikara so you know where to stay away from rather than scattered in more serious promotions like ROH
Chikara is hot fucking garbage.
@@ProjectStarLIGHTS *your reflection
We need to see Jim Cornette vs a wrestler with a republican gimmick.
That would draw
Well, there is a wrestler with a hard core liberal Democrat persona, and he's over AS FUCK as a heel. Old world people bringing guns to kill him heat.
Zeb Colter
IWWA in West Virginia has "Donald Trump's Favorite Wrestler" Mike Howerton
Simon Leary Is that the Progressive Liberal?
@@MarquisLeary34 That's the guy who's Corey Graves' brother, right?
I dying laughing
I thought this was real until he said Russo Mansfield
i even liked baron von pop XD
Shortly after watching the premier Pay TV event of AEW Double or Nothing last year, I got into watching various matches from various Indie promotions on youtube. I am surprised that they are doing so many Intergender Wrestling. I was under the impression that they are very rare. I am more surprised that the majority of thecurrent talent, both men and women on both NXT and AEW respectively, have gone through intergender wrestling at least once from the small indie promotion, and I they still made it to either of the big league promotions. Some fans may feel that they don't belong in the big leagues because both men and women sacrificed their own dignity for the men jobbing to the women and the women thinking they are invincible and so good in the ring, but some of them are really not. But I guess jumping into a big promotion on a clean slate would be fine, but someone like Brian Cage who jobbed to Tessa Blanchard instead of standing his ground and telling the EVP's to go and stick it, jumped to AEW on a clean slate, but people who witnessed his match against Tessa or heard about it can point to their TV screen and say "Hey that's they guy who lost to that 100Ibs woman. I bet that blemish would last forever in his mind.
No doubt people like Vince McMahon and Tony Khan put their foot down on these Indie darlings and told them "You are in the big leagues now, so none of your bullshit shenanigans or else you are gone." Or maybe Vince likes to punish Indie darlings after hiring them because he later found out the silliness they did on the Indie scene, but who knows.
Love cornette talking about kind wrestling i grew up loving keep up good work love stories
Jenelope FTW.
10:13 was that a lighter in the background being lit? Bryan that you?
I watch Chikara and got a good laugh out of Jims review of Chikara, but Chikara has some great storylines and matches and even though it's a "cosplay" kid show , it still has better storylines than the major promotions like the BDK storyline thats pictured in this video. Lots of current wrestlers like Luke Harper,Caesaro, Ricochet and Eddie Kingston all spent considerable time in Chikara. I dont like some of the stuff they do but i could pick apart any promotion i watch. Some of those matches that Jim is slagging off would actually be to his liking if he could get past the gimmicks and silliness. I love listening to Jim and Brian but to say Chikara have killed wrestling is ridiculous! Lol!
Fire Ant is awesome too!
You mention Harper and Cesaro, but both of them are 6'5" and looked like men, as opposed to children. Harper just needed a gimmick (The Big Rig), and he became a big draw because he was a large man with a good personality and could move. Cesaro looked out of place, because he resembled an actual professional wrestler. Cesaro's ankles are bigger than most of their arms. And he could wrestle like them, only better. Then you had him doing his power moves, and it looked like a dad playing with his kids in the pool. When he started doing it to bigger dudes, you realized how strong he truly was.
As for Ricochet, when I saw him outside of the one meme match, I thought he was very athletic and threw the shittiest, least impactful dropkick I had ever seen. And he does some impressive stuff, but he should protect himself enough to not try to have everyone go move for move with him. If someone can, it should make them look better, not make Ricochet look worse. Ivar was matching him and that made him look impressive, because he's fat and shouldn't move like that. The size also made his shit look impactful.
I don't hate Chikara. It's fun for what it is. But most of that shit has a niche. A comedy guy exists for the fans to generally like them. He can be silly to a point, but he has to be likable enough that people get mad when the heel beats the shit out of them in preparation for them to fight the real star. But there are no real stars in Chikara: Vince signed them all (except Kingston, for his own reasons).
@@BrokenSaintRW True theres a lot of smaller talent in Chikara and indies in general but Chikara do well with what they have.
I started watching in mid 2000s for Ultra Mantis Black and ended up watching every event in order i liked it so much. It's amazing how well they build up the storylines and characters with little money or tv show. I like the different styles and events. Larry Sweeny, Chris Hero, Colony, Team fist etc kept ne watching anyway. Its not for everyone though as you say. Ive never liked Ricochet and I dont know why. I like him more in the WWE but his promos suck bad.
First time i saw Chuck Taylor i thought he would get picked up by WWE but he just stuck with the comedy. Now i cant stand him with the best freinds.
It's not cosplay lol. The wrestling was really fuckin solid. I went to shows for years.
Mudshow Championship Wrestling should have the following:
Francis J. Shuttlecock XVI
Clarence Arbuckle
Porkchop Johnson (a 500 lb. Luchador who can do Hurracaranas and a 450 Splash)
Lugwrench Anderson
The Sheepherding Kiwi
Big Beef Beerbelly (Porkchop's Tag Team Partner)
General Custard Pie Face
Dipshit Perkins
Sounds like something that WWE themselves would create because they are judaicum company that fake wrestling and other violence. 🤔
Er, has anyone seen Cornette's Smoky Mountain Wrestling? Tiny crowds and embarrassingly low production. I enjoy those old shows, but if they aren't outlaw/mud it's hard to imagine what would be.
Also, Cornette has booked matches with a guy in a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle costume. I don't mean he wore green trunks and a bit of facepaint. The guy wore a FULL TMNT costume, complete with shell. He wasn't playing a crazy guy who thought he was a turtle. He was a turtle from a children's tv show.
I think a lot of these vids are Cornie ranting at himself...
Cowabunga, the Ninja turtle was referee Mark Curtis and was done to amuse kids at spot shows primarily. Curtis was a trained wrestler, who could shoot as evidenced in a video somewhere here on RUclips. This was in WCW when a fan entered the ring and was taken down and front facelocked by Curtis. Heenan who was doing commentary, ripped on the fan for getting his ass kicked by the smallest ref in WCW.
@@doctorfeelfunny584 Have you seen how much money he did with SMW? Even after selling the rights to WWE he made enough to not worry about a single thing in life.
Think what you want about Cornette but few can say they did something they loved and were sucessful.
Also he was important in the careers of a lot of big names, so he cared enough for the wrestlers he worked with to the point they could do better with their lifes and families.
@@doctorfeelfunny584 Cornette is a hypocrite in so many ways it's ridiculous.
@@lionheart1867 As far as hyppcrites in wrestling I don't think Jim would even make the top 10
I looked up that Bubble Von Pop chick.. how tf did she get over on her looks? Is that real? Are standards that low?
Did Russo book this card??
Hilarious
Crummels and Defarge, the completely legitimate businessmen, are a great young team that get over with their lack of hygienic practices and their Charles Dickens theme named finishing moves, making them literally the dirtiest players in the game. Defarge is also a great promo. Chikara is still around and still running their wrestling school where they hold many of their events. They have their own RUclips channel so if Jim ever wants to have an brain aneurysm he can watch a free match every Monday.
C and D are a decent team , need more seasoning. The Ice Creams are great team , but need to go elsewhere , hopefully ROH or Impact. Throwbacks are ok , but like the Batri , way to small for the big times . shame. Colony and the Swarm , would be good in the 80's , but too small for WWF against the muscle heads.
Saddest part? Beach Bums could be a cool care free surfer gimmick team of one seriously and well
how dare you insult the invisible ninja. i swear cornette doesnt get wrestling
Good grief some of the most generic ring names I've ever heard lol
Wtf are they doing in that vid clip lol
Thats the BDK . Theyve just unmasked/ revealed themselves as a heel faction after turning against and beating down the babyfaces.
Tony deppin is a scrawny guy who once held gold on PA Indy shows I've been to, the usurper ive heard of if it's the same guy.
1000% on point.
I love Corny. But he really is out of touch if he actually thinks that goofy stunts and comedy wrestling "is killing the business". Chikara is a great, unique type of wrestling. There is just as much room for that kind of wrestling, as there is for his old school, southern "real" type of wrestling.
Sure, because The Undertaker and Kane are not silly gimmicks.
They are, but it's 6'10 dudes that look tough playing it. Makes a world of difference.
Dude, they are from hell and lightning and fire come to the ring. They could be 8'5" and it would still be a silly gimmick.
You fucking moron.
You are an idiot.
The dumbest comment i've ever seen and i've seen Trump tweets
Invisible ninja vs Joe boring to headline wrestlemania
Shitkara was too stupid for me. King of trios was fun
WWE is for hippies, hipsters and judaei.
jim cornette can be a bit of an ass. i mean just cause its not his style of wrestling he shits on it. chikara is still going strong and shows multiple events a month. also they have some legit good wrestlers. i mean Mike Quackenbush, UltraMantis Black, Hallowicked to name a few. they can put on a great show. and the gimmicks are cheesy but they beet the shit out of some of the gimmicks that jim worked with. i mean the early 1990s wwf had garbage and jim was fully part of that mess. things didnt change until russo when the content got more mature. i mean i know its just my opinoin but i think ill take fire ant over isaac yankem jim thank you. what jim doesnt know is that a wrestling promotion can offer a different type of content then rival promotions. i mean CZW, ROH,IMPACT,CHIKARA, all foucus on different aspects of wrestling that people really like to see compared to WWE and the fact that those promotions are still alive and kicking AND evolving shows you that its not as dead as he thinks it is. the big problem is that vince has alot of money to use against rival promotions. i mean he scoped up TNAs best routinely over the years.
Listen I know this won't go over well with Mr.Cornette,well while he makes valid points he does sometimes comes off as a bitter person. I don't know why he doesn't seem to get that everything changes and that includes Wrestling. Instead of always focusing on the negative I think his show or podcast should accentuate on the positive aspects of Wrestling no matter what or the Promotion is being Run By..........Think About It
WWE has lil' Jimmy but at least he hasn't been in a match. Yet.
Chikara is better then anything jim can say about modern wrestling. Out of touch? He is so touch he ain't even same reality at this point. Let go through small list of current WWE guys who worked Chikara at least once or more should we? Caesaro (is in screen shot photo), KOno, Johnny Gargano, AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Akira Tozawa, Ricochet, Sara Del Rey (who currently training girls), Adam Cole. That not even counting former or current tna guys who worked there too. It can be goofy at times but wrestling is good.
Don't forget about Luke Harper he was there also
I forget luke but didn't want to go on forever.
Look at the whiny neckbeard triggered because Corny told the truth about joke companies and joke wrestlers.
Look at the jerk try to be clever but just prove how much he is stupid. Not like big time stars have worked proudly for company but hey were just going to stick up for a out of touch old man.
SuperMutant2099 I'd rather stick up for an old man than defend a bunch of vanilla midget comedy wrestlers who don't draw.
The wrestling mummy wasn't exactly a great idea either. Jim Cornette has ran a promotion that was just as silly and goofy as anything out there today. He likes to pretend he's such a great mind in the wrestling industry but the truth is, his ideas are some of the most outdated and hokey that have ever existed.
Yeah, SMW was backwoods garbage, plain and simple.
@@mitchcolburn1216 Damn right.
Corny would ALWAYS be right if it wasn't for the fact that kayfabe was killed 25 years ago. When we already know the magic tricks, magicians aren't that cool unless they're doing some David Blaine/Chris Angel shit. We know it's an illusion/trick, but the shit is so amazing none of that matters.
GranTyrant yeah, but we don't know all the details of Chris Angel's shit...
Bullshit, you know movies are not real but you suspend that knowledge because movies don't constantly wave it in your face its fucking fake.
Pro wrestling is literally grown men dressing up in panties and play fighting. I didn’t know adults actually took this stuff seriously 😂
Shit opinion
How people can defend this indie garbage I will never know. You think Stone Cold would stand this. I mean this is a joke.
WWE is for ✡️ people, why do you watch it?
Why do you defend WWE?