@@Patient_Lion_BS I was driving my '69 Beetle and a cyclist tried to pass me. Dropped a gear and floored it, totally walked him. The jogger said he only won because he knew the hill really well.
Lmao no wonder 😂 cultural appreciation. If u put a French guy in a Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Bugatti against any supercar (Bugatti aswell lol) The French thing will win... Likewise for all other European cars. The cultural community is a must 😂😜
"Well, the Accord is in a bloody different universe." "But the Accord doesn't even feel that quick when you drive it, you just get to watch the Sonatas disappear" This is so accurate 😂
@MIKE SPICE im actually goong to buy an N line soon. I had a few cars to look at but the N line blows all the other cars out of the water for the price. I live in canada and the Nline is 40 k plus tax. Other cars that are comparable are much more expensive. I looked at a challenger rt daytona thats 55 k plus tax, i looked at a accord sport 2.0T that was 43 k plus tax and it wasnt in the sonatas league, i looked at the Audi A4 sline 48 k plus tax, bmw 330i 50 k ect.
@@williamwang7607 the 22 civic against a sonata N line? You must be tqlking about the elantra N line 1.6T. I have test drove rhe civic and its noticably slower than the older one and the 1.5t is coarse and buzzes around
I got a 2018 in December. It has less than 7k miles on it and has been back twice for dropping to limp mode from a knock sensor code. That's once before they changed the sensor and once after. The car can't handle rpm load when passing or merging onto the highway. Both times the car dropped to 40mph almost immediately, almost causing pileups. DO NOT BUY A THETA II EQUIPED HYUNDAI OR KIA.
@@kuyre2239 that's an engine recall, the dealership you took it to should have swapped the engine, not the sensor. I had a 2016 sonata, same limp issue, engine replaced, no more issue. Held up just fine, got the 2023 Sonata Limited. I LOVE it, it feels like a luxury car. I recommend Hyundai for sure 👌🏼
The 2011 Hyundai Sonata has a problem where the engine seizes without warning. The average repair cost is about $5,000 and the average mileage at the time of seizing is around 90,000 miles. A class action lawsuit in 2015 found the 2.4-liter engine to be defective.
The 2020/2021 accord is truly the most impressive vehicle released in these years. I drove one in 2020 and was just floored at the performance, refinement, fit & finish. You simply cannot beat them for practicality and affordability. Someone down below was talking about Nissan Maxima...they are fun to drive but not as refined nor are they even near the same value (my pricings with similar trim was +$10,000) and they simply do not have the reliability to be a car I would recommend. I am not brand loyal, I simply think Honda has a far superior product in this segment, especially when value and longevity are apart of the equation.
I traded my Audi A3 for a Sonata N line lease and boy am I in love with this car. It really puts a smile on your face when you step on it. That wet dual clutch transmission is smooth as butter. When you want it to take off it truly is a rocket but when you want to cruise or you’re stuck in traffic it handles things beautifully. The shifts are perfect. The handling is superb. I cannot state this enough, do not second doubt it, get this car if you are thinking about it. It rips.
I had a 2012 accord v6 and it was a sleeper. Got rid of it for a truck but these new 2.0t are very under estimated. There probably faster then the previous v6s
Power:weight ratio is much more telling spec rather than just power or weight taken on their own. That’s why these 6000 lb performance SUVs accelerate like supercars.
There are several specs that control the drag. It is not only about horsepower By example Weight Number and type of gears Aerodynamic AWD - FWD - RWD and finally hpw good the cars companies optimize the performance.
Compared to the TLX, the Hyundai Sonata N-line is 500 lbs lighter, ~20 more HP, ~30 more lb-ft of torque, launch control but even then still lost to the Acura from a dig. On paper, the Sonata should've won this one easily. Props to Honda/Acura.
If you ever wondered what the difference between 700 hp / 350 hp “feels” like ... Watch this video (and note how relaxed and easy they feel ... taking their hands off the steering wheel, lol). Then watch the drag race video of them in the ZL1/Hellcat/Mustang (where they are hyper focused and sweating during and after the race).
@@jonp2338 I got a dyno sheet that says 283 wheel hp, I'm js. Hit 149 in a half mile roll. I drove the accord side by side, along with a older model CTS-V. Idk man. Beat the shit out of anything I could find in the 40k price range.
@@jonp2338 I'm talking about the N-Line g. Lol the Accord is quick, but its a slouch in comparison. Add that with the fact dealers within 350~ miles mark base model Accords up to 41k and you can see these push 50-55 optioned out. I paid 33k out the door for my N-Line. 7 more popped up as well as 4 Elantra N's. Stock, in the first week of owning the car, I chopped a 357hp big turbo CRV on semi slicks, next month 3 dudes have the N-Line.
@@jonp2338 had to changed my insta bio to "Will ✌🏼 your GTO". Guy claiming his bolt on 05' GTO Made 500 wheel. I almost got fought for "lying about my car", and made it home with a 25.1 mpg average. N-Line all day.
Id love to see how the sonata does with the summer tires in California where it’s not -1 degrees outside ;). I think with the grip it could take the Honda from a dig. Can’t wait to see more.
Tried out an Accord back in Nov of 2019 and I loved it. I liked the feel and handling, and how it looked classy and understated. My wife loves the Camry TRD, she thought it was more fun, and the interior styling was far more open and inviting. The Sonata N looks fine, but we haven't had a chance to try one out for ourselves. I am really disappointed in the Acura, but with that AWD and the weight, it probably dominates those other competitors when it comes to snowy winter driving. It's like comparing aSubaru STI to a Civic Type R, two tools meant for vastly different jobs.
One night these two oldsters drag launched on me from a red light with a brand new Corolla Sport. I just shook my head and laughed at their immaturity. And then properly smoked them with my Civic (turbo). We old guys have to have SOME fun! LOL!
No reason to but Acura as a brand. It’s not a real luxury brand at all and i have seen same cars being sold as Honda in Europe. I can’t justify the price difference. For that much money i would buy an Audi A4 or BMW 330XDrive.
Hyundai and Kia are known for putting some really aggressive torque limiting in their factory tunes, so they get neutered in first couple gears. I think that's more of the issue than the gearing. I had a 2.0 turbo optima years back and sometimes it felt absolutely gutless and at other times it ripped and did rolling burnouts. it was the torque limiting algorithm sometimes kicking in and sometimes not. makes a crazy difference
Thank you guys so much for featuring the Sonata N Line!👍🏾 I know that the exterior styling may not be everyone's cup-o-tea, but in my opinion, no other car in that price range can beat the interior tech options of the Sonata. So yes, I am in the market for one. 🙂
You two make some of the best review videos out there. Everyone else that tries to be comical comes off scripted, corny and just awful. You two have chemistry and a genuinely good sense of humor, rare and successful combo. Cheers, thank you for the content :)
Well said. They have a laugh. The English guy gets a bit of stick about his posh accent....or British accent as some folk say, but these guys are very entertaining.
I have a 2020 Accord Sport 2.0T and absolutely love it. It is the best Accord trim IMO. I think it really balances looks (Sport trim), features (EX trim level feature set), performane (2.0T) and price (32k ish in the US). Thanks for the vid, gents.
I’ve had an accord sport 15 and accord sport 17 I miss those boys! I’ve been a Honda fan since I was like 8 yrs old. I’ll always love Honda 🔥🔥 one day I’ll have another one 🔥
Great vid guys, love these affordable drag races. Always loved the Accord but can’t get the 2.0 turbo in Australia :-( I recently bought a second hand Mazda 6 Atenza Turbo and it’s a great car. So comfortable and love the torque from the 2.5 turbo. The Sonata is the looker out of the 3 in this race.
@@ken-xm8gh shame they discontinued the lift back from earlier 6 models. I’m excited for the new inline 6 Mazda 6 and the stunning designs. I’m a bit of a Honda fan and still have my 2013 Accord Euro manual but in Australia at least Honda don’t have anything exciting, apart from Type R Civic. Think I’m starting to fall for Mazda.
The Accord 2.0T has been dyno'ed to put out 250+ to the wheels, it is definitely under-rated by Honda. The TLX is the same engine w premium gas it gets a 20hp rating bump.
When Hondata put the stock 2.0T Accord on the dyno, it recorded a baseline of 266 hp and 292 lb-ft to the wheels. That's well above Honda's claim of 252 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque at the crank. The Accord is so fast because Honda seriously underreported the hp and torque figures. www.motortrend.com/news/get-civic-type-r-power-on-your-2018-honda-accord-2-0t/
@@luh.garcia6413 I mean the latest G20 330i. 330i has 255hp and 296 lb/ft torque so it's pretty close in terms of power to the Accord. Also, without any fancy options, it costs about the same as the TLX in the video.
Compared to other 2.0T rivals, the Accord is quicker 0-60 than the Mercedes C300, Audi A4 40 TFSI, Lexus IS300, and Genesis G70 2.0T. But it would be close vs the BMW 330i, and the Giulia Ti is quicker.
Every time I watch one of these videos with the 2.0 Accord it brings a smile to my face that I made the right choice. Every other sedan is compared to it and IMHO is today's current standard.
@@itsallrobbish No we don't, we have enough FWD shopping carts already. Why would you want more ? Nobody is obsessed, the german sedans are just better performing and better looking and there is no alternative.
Just purchased the 2020 Sonata SEL Plus and I was shocked on the deal I got. Every option I needed and no gimmicky crap. If they make it in AWD, the car is going to be a killer. The interior is gorgeous and refined. I like the look of the Honda, but with the interior and price, made me comfortable in my decision.
I got the SEL Plus model as well just the 2021 in Hamilton Grey and I use it as my daily and with Lyft. Absolutely love my car. Yeah off the line sometimes it rips some times it spins my wheels like crazy but on a roll I smoke so many cars I think sometimes they’re just as surprised as I am haha 😂 Great video guys! 👍
I also got the 2020 SEL Plus and I’m obsessed with it, I keep going out making every excuse to drive it. The interior is impressive, such a smooth ride, love how it performs way better over the 2017 Sonata I had. I agree I wish it was AWD 😂
The sonata beat it in the rolling race, plus the takeoff was messed up with the launch control, so I think the sonata would’ve won in the drag race. They need a rematch.
@@bradleyscarreviews Bruh your the same guy that kept on hyping up the korean cars on the mazda cx 9 signature review by Redline Reviews . Stop looking at it with bias and look at a car objectively. Also I remember in one of the comments you said the sonata looks better than a mazda 3 or something. I dont think anyone would agree with you on that. Also they legit said the launch went well on the Sonata. Did you just blank that out cause it would mean the Sonata N-line is inferior from a launching start?????
@@giantblob7075 almost everyone agrees with me on that. They should’ve turned up the launch control rpm on the sonata. Plus, they said the launch control is not thing for the sonata and it kept the revs down. So it hi k without launch control, it would’ve won
I own a 2020 Accord 2.0 and when I bought it I kind of laughed cuz I was coming from a much more powerful car and I was looking for some practicality. The first time I put my foot down in the car I was pleasantly surprised with how surprisingly fast it was.
Lmao The sonata is now the fastest car in the segment. Car and driver got 5.0 secs 0-60 for the sonata. For proof, www.caranddriver.com/reviews/amp34758656/2021-hyundai-sonata-n-line-drive/
@@bradleyscarreviews don't forget when you buy the sonata you get a crazy ugly looking car the sonata has zero styling going down the sides the rear end looks like a cheap light bar and the headlights look like cat fish whiskers interior is cheap garbage only decent thing is the touch screen size and instrument cluster besides that the car is straight junk hard touch materials everywhere no styling at all around the car the sonata really does look like a hill country fare option compared to other leading sedans.
you should do t his without going into sport plus, just regular sport mode on the sonata, the 0-60 time is dramatically faster in regular sport, people have gotten into the high 4 second 0-60 in sport mode without launch control, similarly to the accord, the n line engine power is under rated on paper.
I would love a 2021 infiniti q50 vs 2008-2013 infiniti g35-37 both in their highest sport trims because i think you would be impressed with the old car that i have!!!
@Idlia Dosai because I'm pretty sure in Japan, they tax you (or the manufacturer, I'm not sure) by the size/power output of the engine, so reporting less power = lower taxes
I agree just saw one in person but it's hefty, and absolutely needs the 6 cylinder turbo or it's a no go for me! It's coming equipped that way in the near future thankfully.
Jacob Roy It is if you want that luxury and want to stand out a bit more. Everyone and their mother has the accord. Tlx however is unique and not commonly seen.
I'm Korean and gonna say it as a fact, Hyundai is obviously lacking in the mechanical design (engine, transmission, etc. ) but they have been making moves on marketing and devoting a lot of their efforts to making their cars decent or to a point where it is alright on paper and ergonomic for everyday use. Generally, the Japanese brands have so much more experience in mechanical designs that it's obvious Hyundai is unlikely to win in a race like this.
the FWD TLs with the 3.5 were just as fast as the AWDs with the 3.7 (with 25hp/19lb-ft less) in the quarter mile, so I'm sure it's quite the difference. However, you don't buy SH-AWD for the quarter mile alone; those Acuras handle crazy well
The additional weight of the TLX has to be a big factor. I just a quick search, and the TLX in that AWD spec weighs almost 700 pounds more than the Accord. Most people buying this car for a daily driver won’t care, but in a drag race mass matters.
that 700 lbs gets you a double-wishbone suspension, better handling chassis, AWD, and a torque-vectoring rear axle. Not very useful for straight line acceleration but definitely more fun to drive overall and better in the winter. The upcoming Type S would destroy the Accord and Sonata N-line.
Recently got a 2022 Sonata N line night edition with 10,500 miles and I absolutely love it. Maneuverability at high speeds is amazing. I've gotten it up to 150mph so far
I’m at 74k on a 21 Sonata n line. This video doesn’t do justice on how that n line will smoke both the 2.0 T and the TLX. Dude doesn’t know how to drive at ALL!
@@lvdraco007 i haven’t had any issues what so ever! When you get into one if it is a 21-22 n line check the VIN for recalls. You may not want to get into with if it had a recall even if the recall was taken care of. It can still have the same issue for some reason! I prefer getting a 23-24 if you can’t find a 21-22 with no recall. Mine came with no recall at all! What’s your IG or Facebook I’ll send pics of mine and a video
@@lvdraco007 also! As far as thicker and stickier tires, it’ll definitely have little to no wheel hop. Of course tires need to be warmed up for maximum traction before you put the pedal to the floor
@@obungapyramid5525 the best looking one was probably the 2012 version everything else has been just weird. The new one reminds me of an oversized tiburon
The Accord Sport is absolutely awesome. For context I considered it alongside MUSCLE CARS and AWD turbo 6s for my next ride. Now I ended up going with a Mustang GT PP1, but the fact I even considered a 4 cylinder commuter car along side V8s and turbo 6s shows that it really is more spicy and fun then you’re average commuter car.
@@user-wq5ws1qs7x not expect the accord. The GLI out tunes the accord. I’ve been doing this for a long time my friend. The fastest accord runs 11.7 while the fastest GLI runs 10.6. I can send u many Videos of tuned accord vs tuned GLI. The accord gets smacked. The DSG is always gonna outperform the 10 speed.
I think the Sonata’s problem is that it has TOO much power for the winter tires. I’d be curious to see you guys run the test again with everyone on all seasons or summers in better weather. The launch control on that car mitigates wheel spin by limiting power until it can hook up but the worse the conditions, the longer it cuts power which could be why it fell so far behind. That’s why it fared much better on the rolling race
at the strip with mine it easily puts down the reported 13.7's during summer time on stock summer tires. With cool weather it gets mid 6's. With a jb4 mine is hitting 13.1's. either way all those numbers beat the accord in the 1/4 stock for stock
Opposite of me, I just bought a 2021 Hyundai Elantra and it's probably the biggest mistake of my life. Only had it for 2 weeks and I am already trying to get rid of it
@@raiderfly I initially liked the design of the car seeing it in all these videos, but in person I didn't look at it all that well since I went to buy it on an afternoon. Basically the car only looks good from the rear end. The passengers sides look extremely cheap because Hyundai cheaped out and put a piece of hard touch plastic where the extra small window would go, and keep in mind I have the limited version which is the highest trim. The interior also isn't great, they put piano black around the cup holders but put some type of rubber plastic material around the gear selector, this should be reversed because that's how it is in most cars, that use both materials. The piano black plastic can scratch easily if you accidently hit your water bottle against the plastic trying to put it into the cup holder. The adaptive cruise control sucks because at the lowest distance setting the car still leaves enough room for almost 2 and half cars to fit in the gap between you and the car in front, this makes people behind you annoyed, and as a result I get cut off a lot, while feeling like an asshole for holding the lane back. The Collison warning is also extremely annoying like sometimes it comes on when I am switching lanes, and there is a car next to me. Now my biggest gripe is the extreme wind and road noise. I had a Honda Accord before and that had a lot of wind noise, but this blows it out of the water. If you are going over 40mph you can really start to hear the wind noise. At 60mph it becomes extremely loud, and at 80mph it's basically unbearable. This leads me to constantly checking to make sure if all 4 of my windows and sunroof are closed. I usually have to turn my music up super high just to be able to hear it over the noise. I had a 2017 Honda Accord before this car that someone hit and totaled, and my Honda Accord was only around $1200 more expensive. But the Honda Accord had less road/ wind noise, better materials in the cabin, and a shorter distance between you and the car in front for the adaptive cruise control. Plus it was also faster, this car takes awhile to pickup when you need to overtake someone. Not to mention that car is also 12 inches longer giving you more room overall. I also had terrible time at the dealership, unrelated to the car itself, but it has completely turned me away from any future Hyundai products, because they wouldn't honor things written on their website. I think for the money, the new Civic is definitely the better buy since it's basically a mini Accord. I stupidly assumed that the new Civic wouldn't be available until early September, I should have just waited a few extra weeks.
It's a shame the Ford Fusion Sport isn't exactly available anymore. Even fully kitted out when it was still available, it was hard to get it to crack $45k and you got a car with 315HP, AWD, and a bunch of cool features. I still prefer the aesthetic of the pre-facelift 2nd gen, but it's hard to argue with some of the features they introduced on the 2019 model year, which was the last year for the Sport model of the Fusion.
That was amazing. When the Sonata lost the 1st race I knew the it was being held back for traction. That Rolling Race was WILD. ANd if I paid all that money for TLX and the Accord Smokes the TLX then ???
@@tom11zz884 Some car companies cite crank hp vs some cite whp.. both are technically true.. it just depends on the manufacturer and how they market their product. In this case however, the TLX and Accord have essentially the same powertrain, the difference is about 500lbs in weight.. depending on the trim.
I have a 2020 Accord Sport 2.0 and saw the 2022 Sonata N line a few days ago at my local dealership and fell in love immediately. This video helped a lot!
I just got an accord 2.0 touring, and I honestly feel it is severely overlooked and under rated. It is incredibly quick and a solid performer. Honda engineering, there’s just nothing like it.
I went from a 2016 Accord V6 Touring to a 2018 2.0T Touring to a 2021 2.0T Touring...and even though the 2018 and 2021 are the same car...I swear the 2021 feels faster still. Either way, I always get comments on how genuinely quick the Accord 2.0T is. I will say, however; that I do miss the sweet sound of a J35 V6 ripping to redline...ahhh...memories.
@@shoutace I haven't had any engine issues with the 2.0T. My 2018 2.0T went 46,000 miles without issue and my 2021 has 27K miles on it now and zero engine issues. I don't usually keep my cars that long but I'm confident that 100K+ miles is no problem at all with the 2.0T.
This Throttlehouse video saved me from trading my Accord Sport 2.0 for this Nline and for that I am truly grateful. If you listen to all of these million videos on RUclips you would think this car is a Maclaren. They all talk about 5 seconds to 60 but if you notice there are no actual videos showing 5 seconds to 60. That makes us suspicious of funny business between them and the manufacturer. Throttlehouse does nice unbiased real world tests with intelligent information conveyed to the public.
> listen to all of these million videos on RUclips Fortunately there are these things called magazines with printed text that you can actually *read* 🤯 Motor Trend & Automobile tested the N-Line at 5.3 seconds to 60 and Car & Driver tested it at 5 seconds flat. The lowest Accord 2.0t number I've seen is 5.4 seconds. There's no funny business going on; 0.3s 60 time differences are normal if you *read* (there's that word again) independent instrumented tests. Most RUclipsrs don't do independent instrumented tests because viewers watch for experience, sound, and subjective impressions, not numbers that you can *read*. To me it sounds like the N-Line cut torque due to the ambient temperature, which could result in dangerous wheelspin + torque steer on slippery roads from a dead start (recall: its TSC can't be fully defeated). Now why didn't the Accord have the same problem? 1) Less torque to mitigate 2) More development and field time, which means Honda have had more time to spread R&D and improvement costs over the life of the car 3) Hyundai probably cut corners in cold weather testing to keep costs down. BTW I'm a former Accord owner so technically I should be stanning Honda but I'll go with MT, C&D, & Automobile's instrumented tests over an uninstrumented RUclips drag race.
@@JudahRichardson1 I am embarrassed, since my last comment where I was speaking negative about the Nline, I actually went out and traded my 2.0 sport for a Sonata Nline. Absolutely thrilled with the car. At the time I wrote that, I did not know much about the car. Everything about the Nline feels higher quality then the Accord and while I would have preferred a Stinger or g70, the prices on those were a little out of my range, this car most definitely satisfies my driving appetite!
Picture of the old Accord Sport 2.0 and the new Sonata Nline. Again, love the Stinger and G70 and 80 but maybe the next car, for the foreseeable future this will do.
@@JudahRichardson1 I think another thing to consider here, at least from what I have noticed and a Hyundai mechanic confirmed, this car takes some time to break-in, with this 2.5T DCT. For about the first 1,200 miles or so the car felt sluggish. The pedal was stiff and tough to push. I was told that is normal and the best way to break it in is to challenge it and train it to be aggressive. Fast forward to now and the car is driving excellent. In these races, if they are racing cars not broken in, then it is not gonna perform at it's best. Whether or not people agree with that or not is another thing, but it is what I have experienced and was told by Hyundai.
@@XWXW-lk4jf I feel ya on that. My car (2012 Nissan Maxima Special Edition) catches a lot of hate on the internet but it's approximately the same. The CVT has to learn from you and you have to learn how to use it well. Once you do, though, you can expect to smoke most other drivers you encounter.
@@FURUclipsCensors You went to a Hyundai just so you could make a joke? At least make a better one next time if you're gonna waste your gas to go puke. My reaction will come in about 3-4 Business days.
Just out of curiosity, did you disable traction and stability control and also did you adjust the rpm @ which you want to take off? On the Sonata? It has that feature to adjust rpm to which you want to launch,
Great video once again! BTW, I have yet to see a video comparing a manual accord to the automatic. How would that turn out? It would be awesome if you guys would drag race. It would also cater to the "Save the manual crowd" which I am a part of. Continue the great work. Cheers from Quebec!
More of races with cars we can afford lol
2006 Golf!?
:-(
2006 Yaris 1.0L vs 1.3 vs 1.8
You have to warm up the 1.0 to give it a chance, it has so much shove in 2nd gear when warmed up.
@@Patient_Lion_BS I was driving my '69 Beetle and a cyclist tried to pass me. Dropped a gear and floored it, totally walked him. The jogger said he only won because he knew the hill really well.
I concur
can we?
A Japanese guy in a Japanese car is by default fast.
🤣
Lol
Lmao no wonder 😂 cultural appreciation. If u put a French guy in a Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, Bugatti against any supercar (Bugatti aswell lol)
The French thing will win...
Likewise for all other European cars. The cultural community is a must 😂😜
Japanese guy increased the horsepower if put in Japanese car.
BAWHAHA!!!
"Well, the Accord is in a bloody different universe."
"But the Accord doesn't even feel that quick when you drive it, you just get to watch the Sonatas disappear" This is so accurate 😂
Nice pun
@MIKE SPICE yes its true. The sonata n line with good tires is 4.8 0-60
@MIKE SPICE im actually goong to buy an N line soon. I had a few cars to look at but the N line blows all the other cars out of the water for the price. I live in canada and the Nline is 40 k plus tax. Other cars that are comparable are much more expensive. I looked at a challenger rt daytona thats 55 k plus tax, i looked at a accord sport 2.0T that was 43 k plus tax and it wasnt in the sonatas league, i looked at the Audi A4 sline 48 k plus tax, bmw 330i 50 k ect.
@@chrishuber8930 why don’t you just get the 2022 civic it feels just as great
@@williamwang7607 the 22 civic against a sonata N line? You must be tqlking about the elantra N line 1.6T. I have test drove rhe civic and its noticably slower than the older one and the 1.5t is coarse and buzzes around
That Sonata looks like a mad prototype car. The exterior is for the acquired taste but it's gorgeously aerodynamic looking.
That front is ugly af. In my opinion.
I agree that it’s pretty ugly, but it looks gorgeous on silver color
I got a 2018 in December. It has less than 7k miles on it and has been back twice for dropping to limp mode from a knock sensor code. That's once before they changed the sensor and once after. The car can't handle rpm load when passing or merging onto the highway. Both times the car dropped to 40mph almost immediately, almost causing pileups. DO NOT BUY A THETA II EQUIPED HYUNDAI OR KIA.
@@kuyre2239 that's an engine recall, the dealership you took it to should have swapped the engine, not the sensor. I had a 2016 sonata, same limp issue, engine replaced, no more issue. Held up just fine, got the 2023 Sonata Limited. I LOVE it, it feels like a luxury car. I recommend Hyundai for sure 👌🏼
They say the person that doesn't talk, are usually the most dangerous ones.
he is their "Stig".
Facts
"Beware the wrath of a quiet man"
Let the silent treatment do the work..
The 2011 Hyundai Sonata has a problem where the engine seizes without warning. The average repair cost is about $5,000 and the average mileage at the time of seizing is around 90,000 miles. A class action lawsuit in 2015 found the 2.4-liter engine to be defective.
The 2020/2021 accord is truly the most impressive vehicle released in these years. I drove one in 2020 and was just floored at the performance, refinement, fit & finish. You simply cannot beat them for practicality and affordability. Someone down below was talking about Nissan Maxima...they are fun to drive but not as refined nor are they even near the same value (my pricings with similar trim was +$10,000) and they simply do not have the reliability to be a car I would recommend. I am not brand loyal, I simply think Honda has a far superior product in this segment, especially when value and longevity are apart of the equation.
I traded my Audi A3 for a Sonata N line lease and boy am I in love with this car. It really puts a smile on your face when you step on it. That wet dual clutch transmission is smooth as butter. When you want it to take off it truly is a rocket but when you want to cruise or you’re stuck in traffic it handles things beautifully. The shifts are perfect. The handling is superb. I cannot state this enough, do not second doubt it, get this car if you are thinking about it. It rips.
Nice man, underrated and rare on the road
Good upgrade. The a3 is kinda boring
I will be getting it real soon
Kinda sad how Acura is supposed to be the fancy Honda
It is. It's aimed at being a luxury car, that's what you're paying for. You can get a larger engine if you want it to go faster.
Tlx type S ;)
500 lb too heavy. $10k too expensive.
With added features, TLX is a lot heavier than Accord, of course, it will be slower.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 What added equipment weighs additional 600lb? This is sloppy engineering.
Another reason why I love my Accord 2.0t Touring the last 2yrs, it smacks a lot of vehicles. I like that Sonata N too !
I agree. I’ve had mine for two years and I still enjoy driving it.
@@GA08GT478 it should have an LSD though
I had a 2012 accord v6 and it was a sleeper. Got rid of it for a truck but these new 2.0t are very under estimated.
There probably faster then the previous v6s
The 2 0T is considerably quicker than the V6. I've had 3 V6 Accords and I miss the V6 bc of long term durability vs a turbo engine.
I’m loving my Touring 2.0T as well 🤘🤘
“The Honda is the least powerful on paper, which as we know means NOTHING” yes
Power:weight ratio is much more telling spec rather than just power or weight taken on their own. That’s why these 6000 lb performance SUVs accelerate like supercars.
There are several specs that control the drag.
It is not only about horsepower
By example
Weight
Number and type of gears
Aerodynamic
AWD - FWD - RWD
and finally hpw good the cars companies optimize the performance.
Honda underrates their HP anywyy
Compared to the TLX, the Hyundai Sonata N-line is 500 lbs lighter, ~20 more HP, ~30 more lb-ft of torque, launch control but even then still lost to the Acura from a dig. On paper, the Sonata should've won this one easily. Props to Honda/Acura.
@@TheBreakfastLover except the TLX is AWD, while the Sonata is FWD.
If you ever wondered what the difference between 700 hp / 350 hp “feels” like ... Watch this video (and note how relaxed and easy they feel ... taking their hands off the steering wheel, lol). Then watch the drag race video of them in the ZL1/Hellcat/Mustang (where they are hyper focused and sweating during and after the race).
lol u mean 290 hp
@@jonp2338 I got a dyno sheet that says 283 wheel hp, I'm js. Hit 149 in a half mile roll. I drove the accord side by side, along with a older model CTS-V. Idk man. Beat the shit out of anything I could find in the 40k price range.
@@rickyhill2886 i know i have an accord 2.0t Hondata and its a rocket
@@jonp2338 I'm talking about the N-Line g. Lol the Accord is quick, but its a slouch in comparison. Add that with the fact dealers within 350~ miles mark base model Accords up to 41k and you can see these push 50-55 optioned out. I paid 33k out the door for my N-Line. 7 more popped up as well as 4 Elantra N's. Stock, in the first week of owning the car, I chopped a 357hp big turbo CRV on semi slicks, next month 3 dudes have the N-Line.
@@jonp2338 had to changed my insta bio to "Will ✌🏼 your GTO". Guy claiming his bolt on 05' GTO Made 500 wheel. I almost got fought for "lying about my car", and made it home with a 25.1 mpg average. N-Line all day.
Accord 2.0t Touring is my favorite car for the last 2 years, it smacks a lot of vehicles. ❤️❤️
Weirdly 2nd comment with "smacks a lot of vehicles" about "my Accord 2.0T touring the last 2 years"
Did you copy that guy a few comments down? And by the way my maxima would spank your 4 cylinder accord
@@SpeedMaxima if it's the maxima in your profile picture, you'd be surprised. That accord might beat you
@@supernerdman55 trust me. 😂 it wouldn't. You'd be surprised 😈
Id love to see how the sonata does with the summer tires in California where it’s not -1 degrees outside ;). I think with the grip it could take the Honda from a dig. Can’t wait to see more.
Tried out an Accord back in Nov of 2019 and I loved it. I liked the feel and handling, and how it looked classy and understated. My wife loves the Camry TRD, she thought it was more fun, and the interior styling was far more open and inviting. The Sonata N looks fine, but we haven't had a chance to try one out for ourselves.
I am really disappointed in the Acura, but with that AWD and the weight, it probably dominates those other competitors when it comes to snowy winter driving. It's like comparing aSubaru STI to a Civic Type R, two tools meant for vastly different jobs.
Try the sonata it drives really good!!!
Thoes accords are fast af. I just bought a 2.0 sport. Coming from an ex sti owner its damn impressive. seriously underestimated and underrated.
Yea i was surprised when i drove a 2.0T. They really yank the driver.
so flat around the corners, it has modification potential
Not underated at all
The 3.0 turbocharged type-s has over 300 hp
@@Kakiharaichii It's a Honda, of course.
When Dads finish dropping their kids off at school and meet up at a red light...
One night these two oldsters drag launched on me from a red light with a brand new Corolla Sport. I just shook my head and laughed at their immaturity.
And then properly smoked them with my Civic (turbo).
We old guys have to have SOME fun! LOL!
Ya mean Grandads! I’m 57 and drive a Hellcat Redeye not even thinking of 4 doors!
@@davehodgen4185 But what happens when Grandpa rolls up with the Charger Hellcat Redeye Wide Body?! Lol ;o)
@@timephire good point! I have the sleeper Redeye - narrowbody with a very sticky tire - ran 10.4 in the quarter - I call out the charger Redeye!!
@@davehodgen4185 Gotta watch out for those Mopar Families! ;o)
The production quality of y’all’s videos is so good and I love y’all’s videos so much
right choice that I made 3 years ago.Accord 2.0T just love to race with any sedans or even better cars. never lost so far
@Manny Rosy I guess you missed watching this
ruclips.net/video/uqJ9WVYaHRA/видео.html
What a load...lol.
Try a Lexus IS 500. You will be crying 😢
TLX is heavier than the Accord - more sound proofing, awd system, more power equipment. I’m curious how the TLX Type S will perform
TLX TYPE S needs to compete with Q50 Red Sport and G70 3.3t, hope it does well against those.
I just wish the looks were as good as the accord
Type S will be very very quick deff much faster for sure I can't wait to see that vs a Kia stinger GT and a q50 redsport
The type s will get a turbo 6
No reason to but Acura as a brand. It’s not a real luxury brand at all and i have seen same cars being sold as Honda in Europe. I can’t justify the price difference. For that much money i would buy an Audi A4 or BMW 330XDrive.
Hyundai and Kia are known for putting some really aggressive torque limiting in their factory tunes, so they get neutered in first couple gears. I think that's more of the issue than the gearing. I had a 2.0 turbo optima years back and sometimes it felt absolutely gutless and at other times it ripped and did rolling burnouts. it was the torque limiting algorithm sometimes kicking in and sometimes not. makes a crazy difference
As a Canadian i would hope to see all Canadian supporting our great Canadian car reviewer channels . Thank you guys for the great contents
Thank you guys so much for featuring the Sonata N Line!👍🏾 I know that the exterior styling may not be everyone's cup-o-tea, but in my opinion, no other car in that price range can beat the interior tech options of the Sonata. So yes, I am in the market for one. 🙂
Kia K5 GT is better in my opinion. ;)
Make some content on the sonata n line. Be one of the first to do 0-60 times and tunes.
I think it looks good on the outside. Best out of the 3
@@esamscorner8095 right, your opinion 😂😂😂😂
@@justinhuddleston4625 aww, you think the Sonata N Line looks better for real??
James it’s a Honda Accord not a “hondura cord”
lol
And he seems to think he's driving a "snotter".
Or a hornda like topgear says
Who else said hondura cord and realized how much it sounds like James 🤣🤣🤣
Never sure why those accents add sounds that don’t exist. I bet if you asked him to say the name Emma he’d say it like “Emmar” lol
Just bought the Sonata NLine in the yellow and I love it!❤💯💥🗯💣
Not sure if anyone ever mentions this, but I love the background music you guys use in these.
You two make some of the best review videos out there.
Everyone else that tries to be comical comes off scripted, corny and just awful.
You two have chemistry and a genuinely good sense of humor, rare and successful combo.
Cheers, thank you for the content :)
Well said. They have a laugh. The English guy gets a bit of stick about his posh accent....or British accent as some folk say, but these guys are very entertaining.
I have a 2020 Accord Sport 2.0T and absolutely love it. It is the best Accord trim IMO. I think it really balances looks (Sport trim), features (EX trim level feature set), performane (2.0T) and price (32k ish in the US). Thanks for the vid, gents.
I’ve had an accord sport 15 and accord sport 17 I miss those boys! I’ve been a Honda fan since I was like 8 yrs old. I’ll always love Honda 🔥🔥 one day I’ll have another one 🔥
Great vid guys, love these affordable drag races. Always loved the Accord but can’t get the 2.0 turbo in Australia :-( I recently bought a second hand Mazda 6 Atenza Turbo and it’s a great car. So comfortable and love the torque from the 2.5 turbo. The Sonata is the looker out of the 3 in this race.
On the same boat! Loving my Mazda 6 2.5t but wished it has a liftback version.
@@ken-xm8gh shame they discontinued the lift back from earlier 6 models. I’m excited for the new inline 6 Mazda 6 and the stunning designs. I’m a bit of a Honda fan and still have my 2013 Accord Euro manual but in Australia at least Honda don’t have anything exciting, apart from Type R Civic. Think I’m starting to fall for Mazda.
You guys should put these cars on a dyno. I have a feeling the Honda is way way WAY underreported.
The Accord 2.0T has been dyno'ed to put out 250+ to the wheels, it is definitely under-rated by Honda. The TLX is the same engine w premium gas it gets a 20hp rating bump.
We already know it’s way underrated same with the Type R
There are quite a few videos on the tube that show the 2.0t puts out roughly 300 lb-ft of torque and the hp is upwards of 280
it's been done before, Honda/Acura under-rates their HP, Hyundai/Genesis slightly over-rates their HP
When Hondata put the stock 2.0T Accord on the dyno, it recorded a baseline of 266 hp and 292 lb-ft to the wheels. That's well above Honda's claim of 252 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque at the crank. The Accord is so fast because Honda seriously underreported the hp and torque figures.
www.motortrend.com/news/get-civic-type-r-power-on-your-2018-honda-accord-2-0t/
It's sad that a beautifully-designed TLX is let down by its performance. I love the way it looks man, but for that money, it needs to be quicker!
Wow. Accord is really fast, and now I want to see Accord vs BMW 330i (RWD or AWD).
U mean 340i since that’s a 2.0t accord the high end version of the accord unlike its base model the 1.5t
@@luh.garcia6413 I mean the latest G20 330i. 330i has 255hp and 296 lb/ft torque so it's pretty close in terms of power to the Accord. Also, without any fancy options, it costs about the same as the TLX in the video.
Compared to other 2.0T rivals, the Accord is quicker 0-60 than the Mercedes C300, Audi A4 40 TFSI, Lexus IS300, and Genesis G70 2.0T. But it would be close vs the BMW 330i, and the Giulia Ti is quicker.
Every time I watch one of these videos with the 2.0 Accord it brings a smile to my face that I made the right choice. Every other sedan is compared to it and IMHO is today's current standard.
We need these in the UK, we’re just obsessed with German Exec cars, does my nut in.
@@itsallrobbish No we don't, we have enough FWD shopping carts already. Why would you want more ?
Nobody is obsessed, the german sedans are just better performing and better looking and there is no alternative.
I happy with my 2018 exl as well. I prefer the wheels on the touring but that's it.
V6 engine was the right choice
My 6spd 2.0t got stolen last week so this makes me sad.
Just purchased the 2020 Sonata SEL Plus and I was shocked on the deal I got. Every option I needed and no gimmicky crap. If they make it in AWD, the car is going to be a killer. The interior is gorgeous and refined. I like the look of the Honda, but with the interior and price, made me comfortable in my decision.
I got the SEL Plus model as well just the 2021 in Hamilton Grey and I use it as my daily and with Lyft. Absolutely love my car. Yeah off the line sometimes it rips some times it spins my wheels like crazy but on a roll I smoke so many cars I think sometimes they’re just as surprised as I am haha 😂 Great video guys! 👍
I also got the 2020 SEL Plus and I’m obsessed with it, I keep going out making every excuse to drive it. The interior is impressive, such a smooth ride, love how it performs way better over the 2017 Sonata I had. I agree I wish it was AWD 😂
@@superdave3093They’re always surprised 😂 everyone shits on Hyundai for no reason because they never had one or driven in one
I really like the styling updates of the TLX. I'm excited for the Type S. My first fun car was an RSX Type S and I loved it.
Whats happened to your type s
@@carlosvillalon2424 unfortunately it got hit by a truck pulling a trailer and totalled.
Info will be released 3/17/21!! Super excited!!
The type S seems sick , waiting to see how it performs though. Also my first one 2002 rsxType-S currently with 130,000 miles.
I Had a Acura CL Type S sold it 4 month ago
Why am I reading SH-AWD as shawdy? 😂
lololol same
I read it as “Shawd” lol
I hear it in my head as T-Pain’s autotuned hook “Shaa-ta-EE!”
Because of stupid Straight Pipes?
Because you are Y'ed up since it reads SHAWD and you are probably acronym reading disabled as well (or maybe dyslexic).
Love my 2021 2.0t Accord Touring, but I had the base LX for 3 years leasing and it’s still a joy to drive
This is EXACTLY the drag race I am looking for
Hyundai Elantra n vs Veloster n vs sonata n line vs (sonata N if that comes)
And Kona N
I love these videos especially since own 2018 accord 2.0T
The Accord is masterfully engineered
Closest thing to a Legend Type R I think they're going to give us.
The sonata beat it in the rolling race, plus the takeoff was messed up with the launch control, so I think the sonata would’ve won in the drag race. They need a rematch.
@@bradleyscarreviews Hyundai’s got good equipment just bad tuning. The computer isn’t smart enough
@@bradleyscarreviews Bruh your the same guy that kept on hyping up the korean cars on the mazda cx 9 signature review by Redline Reviews
. Stop looking at it with bias and look at a car objectively. Also I remember in one of the comments you said the sonata looks better than a mazda 3 or something. I dont think anyone would agree with you on that. Also they legit said the launch went well on the Sonata. Did you just blank that out cause it would mean the Sonata N-line is inferior from a launching start?????
@@giantblob7075 almost everyone agrees with me on that. They should’ve turned up the launch control rpm on the sonata. Plus, they said the launch control is not thing for the sonata and it kept the revs down. So it hi k without launch control, it would’ve won
I'm waiting for the legendary battle: The Stig vs Focused Karston
M-N,
M performance-N performance,
M Town-N village.
bmw M copycat hyundai.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was really impressed and surprised I had my money on the Acura because... well I'm a fan but the results were interesting. Great video guys 👍🏽
I own a 2020 Accord 2.0 and when I bought it I kind of laughed cuz I was coming from a much more powerful car and I was looking for some practicality. The first time I put my foot down in the car I was pleasantly surprised with how surprisingly fast it was.
Lmao The sonata is now the fastest car in the segment. Car and driver got 5.0 secs 0-60 for the sonata. For proof, www.caranddriver.com/reviews/amp34758656/2021-hyundai-sonata-n-line-drive/
@@bradleyscarreviews don't forget when you buy the sonata you get a crazy ugly looking car the sonata has zero styling going down the sides the rear end looks like a cheap light bar and the headlights look like cat fish whiskers interior is cheap garbage only decent thing is the touch screen size and instrument cluster besides that the car is straight junk hard touch materials everywhere no styling at all around the car the sonata really does look like a hill country fare option compared to other leading sedans.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 good for u
@@Back_door_bandit_98 looks good from the side and back. front is a catfish
Bought the 2022 Touring. Love it!
The energy of these guys makes this video that much more enjoyable! I have a soft spot for Hyundais so I'm glad it did well overall
you should do t his without going into sport plus, just regular sport mode on the sonata, the 0-60 time is dramatically faster in regular sport, people have gotten into the high 4 second 0-60 in sport mode without launch control, similarly to the accord, the n line engine power is under rated on paper.
Thank you guys for the morning race, best way to wake up.
these videos are the greatest accord commercial ever, i swear
I would love a 2021 infiniti q50 vs 2008-2013 infiniti g35-37 both in their highest sport trims because i think you would be impressed with the old car that i have!!!
I'll take the Accord 2.0t hands down
A simple tune on the accord is no joke.
Best part is that you can probably tune the TLX in the same manner.
The hp on the accord is understated it makes 250hp but people seen 275hp stock when dyno.
@Idlia Dosai because I'm pretty sure in Japan, they tax you (or the manufacturer, I'm not sure) by the size/power output of the engine, so reporting less power = lower taxes
@Idlia Dosai The Accord is the K20C4 and the TLX is the K24W7. The TLX has VTEC the Accord does not.
@@MrRogerslarry56 Actually both are 2.0T and both have VTEC. Old TLX was 2.4L, 2021 is first year with 2.0T in TLX.
James awkward laugh after saying it’s time to move to California 😂
I don’t live in Canada, but I know the feeling...
As a 2.0T Accord owner, thank you for this video!
I would go with the TLX it shows that Acura has come back to form and I really can’t wait to see what Type S has in store🔥
I agree just saw one in person but it's hefty, and absolutely needs the 6 cylinder turbo or it's a no go for me! It's coming equipped that way in the near future thankfully.
@UCpxAHBJQf7X2HpVLfiCCNqQ Okay who cares, there's still people that would rather own the TLX than the Accord for it's design and premium quality.
@@La-yt1wr Yea, but not worth over $10k more imo
Malayali aano😝
Jacob Roy It is if you want that luxury and want to stand out a bit more. Everyone and their mother has the accord. Tlx however is unique and not commonly seen.
Hyundai's N division is really killing it. Well done to the koreans.
Hyundai is JUNK.
@@dfsdh432v9 ok hater, if you say so. 🤷🏻♂️
@@cesarcampos7153 JUNK
I'm Korean and gonna say it as a fact, Hyundai is obviously lacking in the mechanical design (engine, transmission, etc. ) but they have been making moves on marketing and devoting a lot of their efforts to making their cars decent or to a point where it is alright on paper and ergonomic for everyday use.
Generally, the Japanese brands have so much more experience in mechanical designs that it's obvious Hyundai is unlikely to win in a race like this.
@@o_o-fk7ym 미틴놈
The TLX is super heavy. If it was the FWD drive version I wonder how it would do
There rwd
Would probably be closer to the Accord or may even beat it
the FWD TLs with the 3.5 were just as fast as the AWDs with the 3.7 (with 25hp/19lb-ft less) in the quarter mile, so I'm sure it's quite the difference.
However, you don't buy SH-AWD for the quarter mile alone; those Acuras handle crazy well
@@callang9 ikr
@@panagiotisf7228
😂😂
Only car thats RWD in Honda’s family is the Acura NSX
The additional weight of the TLX has to be a big factor. I just a quick search, and the TLX in that AWD spec weighs almost 700 pounds more than the Accord. Most people buying this car for a daily driver won’t care, but in a drag race mass matters.
no shit
that 700 lbs gets you a double-wishbone suspension, better handling chassis, AWD, and a torque-vectoring rear axle. Not very useful for straight line acceleration but definitely more fun to drive overall and better in the winter. The upcoming Type S would destroy the Accord and Sonata N-line.
@@TheBreakfastLover but not the genesis G70 😉
@@avis1978 it'll be close
Recently got a 2022 Sonata N line night edition with 10,500 miles and I absolutely love it. Maneuverability at high speeds is amazing. I've gotten it up to 150mph so far
how reliable is it so far? do you think if we put thicker tires n sticker ones it’ll catch on a lot sooner?
I’m at 74k on a 21 Sonata n line. This video doesn’t do justice on how that n line will smoke both the 2.0 T and the TLX. Dude doesn’t know how to drive at ALL!
@@jimitrew5009 is it reliable so far? you should post a review video!
@@lvdraco007 i haven’t had any issues what so ever! When you get into one if it is a 21-22 n line check the VIN for recalls. You may not want to get into with if it had a recall even if the recall was taken care of. It can still have the same issue for some reason! I prefer getting a 23-24 if you can’t find a 21-22 with no recall. Mine came with no recall at all! What’s your IG or Facebook I’ll send pics of mine and a video
@@lvdraco007 also! As far as thicker and stickier tires, it’ll definitely have little to no wheel hop. Of course tires need to be warmed up for maximum traction before you put the pedal to the floor
5:10
🤣
"...good front end, too."
THAT LOOK
Yea they absolutely ruined the sonata front it's hideous it's as if they smashed the face In with a hammer for no reason
@@ryumerk9939 I like it tho, especially the running lights, the previous sonata looked like a cheap ass Genesis
its growing on me, but yeah, that look was hilarious!
@@obungapyramid5525 the best looking one was probably the 2012 version everything else has been just weird. The new one reminds me of an oversized tiburon
I hate the catfish look.
James was in the “Hyundai Sonater”
Hey Matt how’s your day today?
😂😂😂
Who drove the Hondura cord?
@@majidminhas8954 LMAO
The Hoonday Snotter!
The Accord Sport is absolutely awesome. For context I considered it alongside MUSCLE CARS and AWD turbo 6s for my next ride. Now I ended up going with a Mustang GT PP1, but the fact I even considered a 4 cylinder commuter car along side V8s and turbo 6s shows that it really is more spicy and fun then you’re average commuter car.
And with the aftermarket tunes these vehicles are capable of 350-400 whp.
That’s why I got the VW GLI. Out tunes all these 2.0
@@sharktin240 except the accord.
@@user-wq5ws1qs7x not expect the accord. The GLI out tunes the accord. I’ve been doing this for a long time my friend. The fastest accord runs 11.7 while the fastest GLI runs 10.6. I can send u many
Videos of tuned accord vs tuned GLI. The accord gets smacked. The DSG is always gonna outperform the 10 speed.
@@sharktin240 Come on man.
The junk yards are full of blown 2.0t VW motors.
They are garbage & everybody knows it!
*In the words of Roger Smith from American Dad: "Welp. That's what you get for tangling with a Honda."*
Just imagine a Accord Si-R or type r. If the regular accord is so good already.
It is the NSX....
I think the Sonata’s problem is that it has TOO much power for the winter tires. I’d be curious to see you guys run the test again with everyone on all seasons or summers in better weather. The launch control on that car mitigates wheel spin by limiting power until it can hook up but the worse the conditions, the longer it cuts power which could be why it fell so far behind. That’s why it fared much better on the rolling race
at the strip with mine it easily puts down the reported 13.7's during summer time on stock summer tires. With cool weather it gets mid 6's. With a jb4 mine is hitting 13.1's. either way all those numbers beat the accord in the 1/4 stock for stock
Ngl the Sonata does look like a catfish but in a good way
You literally drag raced my top 3/5 options for my next car. Brilliant. 😂
Love the sonata! I'll always love Hyundai.
Opposite of me, I just bought a 2021 Hyundai Elantra and it's probably the biggest mistake of my life. Only had it for 2 weeks and I am already trying to get rid of it
@@-SP. why?
@@raiderfly I initially liked the design of the car seeing it in all these videos, but in person I didn't look at it all that well since I went to buy it on an afternoon. Basically the car only looks good from the rear end. The passengers sides look extremely cheap because Hyundai cheaped out and put a piece of hard touch plastic where the extra small window would go, and keep in mind I have the limited version which is the highest trim.
The interior also isn't great, they put piano black around the cup holders but put some type of rubber plastic material around the gear selector, this should be reversed because that's how it is in most cars, that use both materials. The piano black plastic can scratch easily if you accidently hit your water bottle against the plastic trying to put it into the cup holder.
The adaptive cruise control sucks because at the lowest distance setting the car still leaves enough room for almost 2 and half cars to fit in the gap between you and the car in front, this makes people behind you annoyed, and as a result I get cut off a lot, while feeling like an asshole for holding the lane back.
The Collison warning is also extremely annoying like sometimes it comes on when I am switching lanes, and there is a car next to me.
Now my biggest gripe is the extreme wind and road noise. I had a Honda Accord before and that had a lot of wind noise, but this blows it out of the water. If you are going over 40mph you can really start to hear the wind noise. At 60mph it becomes extremely loud, and at 80mph it's basically unbearable. This leads me to constantly checking to make sure if all 4 of my windows and sunroof are closed. I usually have to turn my music up super high just to be able to hear it over the noise.
I had a 2017 Honda Accord before this car that someone hit and totaled, and my Honda Accord was only around $1200 more expensive. But the Honda Accord had less road/ wind noise, better materials in the cabin, and a shorter distance between you and the car in front for the adaptive cruise control. Plus it was also faster, this car takes awhile to pickup when you need to overtake someone. Not to mention that car is also 12 inches longer giving you more room overall. I also had terrible time at the dealership, unrelated to the car itself, but it has completely turned me away from any future Hyundai products, because they wouldn't honor things written on their website. I think for the money, the new Civic is definitely the better buy since it's basically a mini Accord. I stupidly assumed that the new Civic wouldn't be available until early September, I should have just waited a few extra weeks.
Junkyundai.
@@justinmartin4841 ok
Wow, Honda really knows how to build an engine and transmission. But the Hyundai is just beautiful.
one word "optometrist"
You misspelled hideous.
the k5 looks considerably better than the sonata though.
it does look beautiful...takes time to get used to tho
the Sonata looks like a catfish
More Karston please! His faces are so funny to watch as he smokes you guys.
It's a shame the Ford Fusion Sport isn't exactly available anymore. Even fully kitted out when it was still available, it was hard to get it to crack $45k and you got a car with 315HP, AWD, and a bunch of cool features. I still prefer the aesthetic of the pre-facelift 2nd gen, but it's hard to argue with some of the features they introduced on the 2019 model year, which was the last year for the Sport model of the Fusion.
That was amazing. When the Sonata lost the 1st race I knew the it was being held back for traction. That Rolling Race was WILD. ANd if I paid all that money for TLX and the Accord Smokes the TLX then ???
The accord wasn’t in sport mode
Proud to be an Accord owner. 🥺
the guy that drive the sonata is like goin out for road trip
@Throttle House you forgot to mention that the 8 speed of the N-Line is a dual clutch transmission
I heard the accord is under-rated and is actually giving closer to the 300.
Nope..just better engineering from Honda...
@@tom11zz884 No just underrated . You wouldn’t even know how to explain yourself “better engineering” 😂
@@tom11zz884 Some car companies cite crank hp vs some cite whp.. both are technically true.. it just depends on the manufacturer and how they market their product. In this case however, the TLX and Accord have essentially the same powertrain, the difference is about 500lbs in weight.. depending on the trim.
Yeah. They dyno at around 270 to the wheels. That’s easily 300hp crank. Honda claims 252 lol.. they underrated it for sure.
Can you please include a base guilia!?!?! No one ever includes this car and it’s only a 2.0 turbo as well!! Great race against the accord!!!!
They were gonna include it but it had engine problems.
That accord is so quick it pushed his hairline back.....made his gameface a force to be reckoned with
That Sonata desperately needs a limited slip diff. The car would be transformed even further with some additional mechanical grip.
Right they didnt even set the launch control on highest settings
I’m still taking the Accord Sport 2.0t all day.
@Hbgn the car itself, sure, but the 2.0t is not as common
I can’t wait to see the actual Sonata N!! If it’s anything like the Veloster N it’s going to be a wicked lil machine!👌🏽🔥🔥
No thanks
I'm feeling maybe 330hp or 300 like that other 2 model
There's no news for the Sonata N though
@@sanj5026 probably not for a while
Still really like the new TLX overall! My current S60 T5 is hardly fast but it gets the job done.
At the first race, the Sonata was practically launched 2 seconds later than others.
Uh, no.
Biermann's engineering capabilities, it's becoming evident. Genesis/Hyundai/Kia is likely causing other companies to lose sleep at night
I love love love these affordable cars drag races! Keep it up guys!
I have a 2020 Accord Sport 2.0 and saw the 2022 Sonata N line a few days ago at my local dealership and fell in love immediately. This video helped a lot!
I think the Accord must have "276" horsepower
Ahhh this comment is like a gem 😌
@@aayonce4 I bought mine just thinking 252 must be the new 276 after I test drove it.
@@TheSpink02 cool the accord is so freakin fast
I've seen dyno numbers the accord is actually about 238hp ......😎😎😎 2.0t accord exl here 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Onlyhyper that's at the wheels at the crank it's more
That Catfish still have my attention the most...
it have a name Sonata N line 💪🔥 the cheapest and the best for me
@@dheeradjlachman9658 catfish not expensive 😃
Pouts, winks, blows kiss, curls finger in whiskers. ... wait, what?
mine too.
because looks stupid.
@@dwadd7528 Really!? I kinda like it, for looking different!
I just got an accord 2.0 touring, and I honestly feel it is severely overlooked and under rated. It is incredibly quick and a solid performer. Honda engineering, there’s just nothing like it.
How’s your 2.0 going? I just ordered mine and won’t get here until March. Can’t wait. It’s the touring 2.0 sonic gray
That accord is ridiculous 😂
Accord plus a tune would be fun at stop lights. lol. Definitely could upset a lot of people lol.
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 i have a stock accord 2.0T people do get very upset specially german owners
@@fahmidnd2 I'll take the bmw any day though.
I put a k&n typhoon on my 2.0 it whistles like no other
And got clapped by the N-Line
I went from a 2016 Accord V6 Touring to a 2018 2.0T Touring to a 2021 2.0T Touring...and even though the 2018 and 2021 are the same car...I swear the 2021 feels faster still. Either way, I always get comments on how genuinely quick the Accord 2.0T is. I will say, however; that I do miss the sweet sound of a J35 V6 ripping to redline...ahhh...memories.
Can I ask you if you personally think the 2.0 is reliable because I’m stuck between 2.0 or 1.5
@@shoutace 2.0 all day! No contest.
@@shoutace I haven't had any engine issues with the 2.0T. My 2018 2.0T went 46,000 miles without issue and my 2021 has 27K miles on it now and zero engine issues. I don't usually keep my cars that long but I'm confident that 100K+ miles is no problem at all with the 2.0T.
This Throttlehouse video saved me from trading my Accord Sport 2.0 for this Nline and for that I am truly grateful. If you listen to all of these million videos on RUclips you would think this car is a Maclaren. They all talk about 5 seconds to 60 but if you notice there are no actual videos showing 5 seconds to 60. That makes us suspicious of funny business between them and the manufacturer. Throttlehouse does nice unbiased real world tests with intelligent information conveyed to the public.
> listen to all of these million videos on RUclips
Fortunately there are these things called magazines with printed text that you can actually *read* 🤯 Motor Trend & Automobile tested the N-Line at 5.3 seconds to 60 and Car & Driver tested it at 5 seconds flat. The lowest Accord 2.0t number I've seen is 5.4 seconds. There's no funny business going on; 0.3s 60 time differences are normal if you *read* (there's that word again) independent instrumented tests.
Most RUclipsrs don't do independent instrumented tests because viewers watch for experience, sound, and subjective impressions, not numbers that you can *read*.
To me it sounds like the N-Line cut torque due to the ambient temperature, which could result in dangerous wheelspin + torque steer on slippery roads from a dead start (recall: its TSC can't be fully defeated). Now why didn't the Accord have the same problem? 1) Less torque to mitigate 2) More development and field time, which means Honda have had more time to spread R&D and improvement costs over the life of the car 3) Hyundai probably cut corners in cold weather testing to keep costs down.
BTW I'm a former Accord owner so technically I should be stanning Honda but I'll go with MT, C&D, & Automobile's instrumented tests over an uninstrumented RUclips drag race.
@@JudahRichardson1 I am embarrassed, since my last comment where I was speaking negative about the Nline, I actually went out and traded my 2.0 sport for a Sonata Nline. Absolutely thrilled with the car. At the time I wrote that, I did not know much about the car. Everything about the Nline feels higher quality then the Accord and while I would have preferred a Stinger or g70, the prices on those were a little out of my range, this car most definitely satisfies my driving appetite!
Picture of the old Accord Sport 2.0 and the new Sonata Nline. Again, love the Stinger and G70 and 80 but maybe the next car, for the foreseeable future this will do.
@@JudahRichardson1 I think another thing to consider here, at least from what I have noticed and a Hyundai mechanic confirmed, this car takes some time to break-in, with this 2.5T DCT. For about the first 1,200 miles or so the car felt sluggish. The pedal was stiff and tough to push. I was told that is normal and the best way to break it in is to challenge it and train it to be aggressive. Fast forward to now and the car is driving excellent. In these races, if they are racing cars not broken in, then it is not gonna perform at it's best. Whether or not people agree with that or not is another thing, but it is what I have experienced and was told by Hyundai.
@@XWXW-lk4jf I feel ya on that. My car (2012 Nissan Maxima Special Edition) catches a lot of hate on the internet but it's approximately the same. The CVT has to learn from you and you have to learn how to use it well. Once you do, though, you can expect to smoke most other drivers you encounter.
I never in my life thought I would say I like the styling of the Camry. God I am old.
More Yugos, Colts, Horizons, and Geo Metros for the "Pimping on a Budget" folks
@BERSERKER the Yugo had a rear defroster on the outside of the car. It's was for keeping your hands warm when you are pushing it.
That Sonata has a face only a whale shark mom could love 🥲
Lol Cesar is reflecting on his life rn. He is the Sonata and his mom is that Whale Shark
Only his momma could love that face 🤪
When I was at the Hyundai dealership and walked past the Sonata, I began puking everywhere. I even puked on the salesman, it was just that hideous
@@FURUclipsCensors
You went to a Hyundai just so you could make a joke?
At least make a better one next time if you're gonna waste your gas to go puke.
My reaction will come in about 3-4 Business days.
@@jonathanrodriguez1154 Dance for me, puppet
@@FURUclipsCensors Gag for me sissy.
Over here throwing up lol
Just out of curiosity, did you disable traction and stability control and also did you adjust the rpm @ which you want to take off? On the Sonata? It has that feature to adjust rpm to which you want to launch,
Actually nice to see some real cars being raced for a change lol
I can’t wait to see the tune on the new 2.5T on the sonata
The front end tune is already out, it's called K5 GT 😉
I’d be interested to see what the actual dyno numbers would be for these three.
Those Honda engineers must have the biggest smiles on their faces when they watch these drag races lol
"What we've learnt from the accord is that on paper means NOTHING!!" 😂
HYUNDAI KIA on paper ALSO means NOTHING🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video once again! BTW, I have yet to see a video comparing a manual accord to the automatic. How would that turn out? It would be awesome if you guys would drag race. It would also cater to the "Save the manual crowd" which I am a part of. Continue the great work. Cheers from Quebec!