Damn, the old school 3.5L V6 still packs a hidden punch! Great race, having three different generations of the same vehicle makes for an exciting video! Well done Sam
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 it’s old school if the power train is obsolete (at least in the sense of the TLX) which is a pity because it was a damn good power plant.
@@EgguEd51 I suspect so, they tuned the 9 speed ZF in the TLX for economy, I mean I owned the TLX, the tranny wasn't that bad, it shifted slow especially in the first 2 to 3 gears, after 3rd gear it was better. I had to reset my transmission, it did a little better but not by much. The 10 speed sounds like it has much smoother shifts. The new MDX with the same J35 but with the 10 speed auto has proven to be faster than the previous gen with the same J35 but with the 9 speed ZF.
@@김동준-t9pno apples to apples comparison. The new one is larger in all dimensions, is heavier by 250-300lbs, and I think the engines is all new. I know the new pilot V6 is all new so I imagine the latest mdx also uses the all new engine. Either way 0-60 and quarter mile performance is almost identical between the ZF A9 and Honda A10. Check out C&D tests between the pre facelift Odyssey in a lower trim ZF A9 and higher trim Honda A10.
Nope, performance would have been identical. Check out C&D tests results between 2018 Odyssey ZF 9 speed and Hondas 10 speed. 0-60 and 1/4 are within .1 second of each other. Even fuel economy is basically identical. 10 speed only shows big improvement when you stomp on the pedal. It's quicker and smoother to respond because its logic is better. But in a drag race you won't notice an improvement. After 8 gears, more gears won't be that beneficial for performance or mpg. For example, 6th gen Camaro 8 vs 10 speed have pretty identical acceleration till 110mph. After that there is a slight difference because the 10 speed has an extra gear to stay in its power band. But again it's negligible throughout the 1/4 mile. Also mpg between 8 and 10 speed are less than 1mpg apart.
Been waiting for this for a long time lol! Great video! It does seem like in the last race, the 2021 TL Owner lifted early. A well driven TL 6MT SH-AWD should be running high 13's in the 1/4 mile and would be capable of beating the other two. The new TLX 2.0T kept up better than I thought. That 10AT and its shorting gearing may be the key to its launch.
The tlx 2.0 has wayy more torque with the turbo. Thats obvious when you see how well it gets off the line. The v6 cars start to catch up at high speed since they have more horsepower
Correct on the shorter gearing. Despite the 10AT being a torque converter it moves extremely well. Want the complete 10AT swap from the 2.0T Accord and drop it in a Del Sol. FB0, Hondata Stage 2 and the stock turbo. Such a cheat code in that car.
Agreed. The 3.7L 6MT TL was definitely a sleeper: it looked nearly identical to the 3.5L auto, but about a second quicker to 60 and 1/4-mile. It was the "Type S" of its generation, except only without the Type S badges.
2010 is my favorite. I remember being in high school thinking that was the best looking car. Now 10 years later, I still think it is an amazing looking car. it has aged very well.
@@AcuraPerformance way way ahead. You put the new garbage next to it and matches up almost the same minus a few new toys but that's it. Other than that I wouldn't even trade up for the new one. I'm just gonna keep my maintenance up and keep it unless they do another 6 speed
@@AL-ib9yc I think he meant the 2.0t in the new TLX. Your 4 cylinder has a k24 with the dct, excellent combination, that 8 speed dct is lightning quick
I picked the TLX 2020 to be the overall winner. I purchased a new 2010 TL Tech SH-AWD (don't ever recall there being a 2010 A-SPEC, and it looks like the one featured here was wearing aftermarket exhaust tips/finishers) with a 6spd manual and replaced it with a 2019 A-SPEC V-6 SH-AWD after the TL was totaled in a collision caused by a 16 y/o. As fast as that TL was, I believe that even though my 2019 is rated with less horsepower and has a slightly smaller engine displacement, that the 2019 is quicker. I've driven the 2nd gen as a dealer loaner and as much as I like how quick it is, displacement of the V-6 over the I-4 turbo, along with the 2nd gen's heavier curb weight, I felt would prevail.
I am looking at a 2019 V6 A-Spec/Tech...anything I should be aware of or to look for? This one has 40,000 miles and is under the recall where I believe the engine will be replaced...
The TL SHAWD 3.7L (the silver car) when properly launched will run 0-60 in 5.2 with the MT. These tests only demonstrate one facet of comparative linear performance from a dig. For example, can we really say the car that traps first is the fastest when the losing car is actually running faster at the finish? Yes per that selected race distance, but mostly No. Extend the race and the losing car will overtake to win. Torque & traction wins the short sprints, but top end speed goes to superior hp-to-weight-ratio, to gearing & to lowest coefficient of drag.
LOVE IT!!! So interesting that there's such a small difference between these three generations. Please do Type-S comparisons next!!! 2004-08 gen Type-S vs the 2021 Type-S.
Btw the new type s would completely leave the second gen type s (not second gen of the TL, but the second gen of the TL type s they made) in the dust. The type s back then is pretty much just as fast if not slower than the last 2 generations of the v6 ASpec and this generation’s 4 cyl. It’s kind of like how integras and legends today aren’t fast but they sure were fast 20 years ago
The 4 cylinder turbo was most impressive to me. By the numbers I was expecting it to be further behind. The V-6 car just barely passed right at the end. Give it a tune and it wins.
First of all I think you guys are geniuses for using older models with newer models , I really enjoyed this video , but I think the fact that the 2021 tlx only has 4 cylinders it's at a big disadvantage against 2 v6 cars even tho it's newer .. can't wait to see more videos like this 👍
I own a 2012 Acura TL. In Sport I was going toe to toe with a Mustang V8. I visited an Acura dealership, I tested the 3rd Gen TLX in a testdrive and realized how much slower it was than my Acura 2012 TL. Needless to say, I wasn’t interested in buying it! I don’t know what happened with the new Acura/Honda performance. It severely declined. I still have my 2012 Acura TL today in 2024! Little known fact too, the 2012 Acura TL can be safely tuned if done professionally, to over 1000 horsepower!!!!! It’s a “Fast And Furious” vehicle!!!!!
What they don’t tell you is that the new TLX 2.0 T gets much worse MPG than the outgoing V6. I would suspect that Honda found that the 2.0 T costs less to make and this was all about $. I tried going 65 mph for 10 miles in the new TLX after resetting the trip computer. The MPG showed 29. The V6 would get 35 MPG easily. The V6 Accord with the VCM would’ve gotten 40 MPG.
Shawd He launched on the 20 tlx 2nd race nasty like! thanks for showing the 10 shawd is a Great car I love my 10 shawd 3.7 6spdmany i would never trade t for either 1 of those knock offs
It's the Sprint Booster that I installed for better throttle response. I had to turn it off for the normal mode run. That explains why my timing was way off. It also didn't help that my aftermarket shift knob came off, that's why I missed second gear on the first run. I think the 4th gen did okay considering the shift knob malfunction. That Sprint Booster is a great investment if you're looking in to it. A lot of times guy's would rather put money on a k-tuner but it also cost way more.
@@AcuraPerformance oh gotcha! I may have skipped the part where the sprint booster was mentioned. First run was way off, but the 4th gen really sticks it to the TLX's when you get the launch and shifts down. Acura shouldve put some more money into J37 research and design.
Can we get another race. I feel the tlx didn't get a good race with the TL. I knew the new TLX would lose. Look at thr trap speeds for that thing. It's much lower than any of the older ones.
Still watching this video and in amazement that nobody calls out the fact the 2010 doesn't have sport or sport plus mode....lol the "sport" mode only make the paddles usable. Doesn't make it faster in anyway
i can see that the v6 is faster after some get up and go but I want to know which one handles better in every day driving? Meaning which of the TLXs are more willing to take a 90 degree turn?
This was another impressive video...shout out to everyone who made it work especially being able to get those cars stock (without tuning) to verify the difference. As always thank you.
I owned three 4th generation TLs and one 1st generation TLX V6. Will very likely own a 2nd generation TLX by next summer, maybe in Type S trim. Can't wait to watch this video.
At 0:35 just blows my mind how throughout the years the car became heavier with a smaller engine- less horsepower but with more gears in the transmission. I just wish the engines remained 3.7l v6 with more horsepower either turbo or supercharged. Is it just me or anyone agree?
4th gen ppl gotta stick up for their cars. I don't listen to any bad reviews or critics about "THE GRILL". there is way more to that car. It was ahead of its time and still a head turner for me. When they see the 6 speed monster rocking back and forth at the red light I get looks of confusion because they can't belive its a manual shift until she jumps and takes off. I love the 4th gen and even got the auto sh awd
Thanks for having me it was a pleasure, I could have grabbed the new 2021 but after this video I'm glad I bought the 2020 instead. So I literally just want the interior of the 2021 in my 2020.
@@SAT1337 no sir...I have just wrapped the roof and mirror in satin black ....chrome powder coated my alloy rims, painted my calipers and have LED changing lights behind my front grill....even my staggered wheel step up came like that from the dealership.
@@IZRAW Ah ok, must have been the TL then with that intake sound. I have the same car TLX A-Spec SH-AWD though it's a 19'. Did you install those LED lights behind the grill yourself?
The 6MT J37 TL was more than worthy of the Type S badge. It was significantly quicker than the 3.5L auto. Unfortunately Acura at the time was going thru a weird identity crisis: beak grille, hiding exhaust tips, testing out an "eco-luxury" image post-2008 economy. So they killed off the Type S badge.
@@msrr1303 better weighing 300lbs more? You swapped to j37 but couldn’t throw the 6 speed in there lol? If your j37 3g tl was 6 speed manual you would change your mind as it would be way quicker than a 4g 6mt
@@dentpulla You keep saying this yet you dont post a link or anything. Don't get me wrong, I know that TL is faster than the V6 TLX but you've gotta back it up.
@@AcuraPerformance if you look at all the cars that came out during the 4th gen, nothing looked like it or matched its style. Ppl focused on THE GRILL and didn't even talk about the rest of the car which wasn't fair. It had features that cars didn't have and an engine that was on pace with European cars
@@keylkq6207 right? They'd be hating on the car just because of that lol. It's one of those either you love it or hate it. You really have to drive it to appreciate it.
Thank you for seeing the new gen for what it is. It doesn't stand out other than that big ugly grill. Other than that the car is plain Jane. The 4th gen stands out til this day. I still turn heads when they see it switching gears. Ppl pull up and I hit a gear and take off like a 🚀rocket 😁
@@alexismendoza1545 Exactly, good point there! I understand the revised SH-AWD is heavier but the car is still lacking power to weight ratio in my opinion. If they ever make a new ILX « compact sedan » in 2022 as advertised, I hope it’s gonna be max 3200-3300 pounds.
I had a 2020 V6 Aspec and now have the 2021 version. The V6 feels way stronger and I also got better real world gas mileage in it. I miss that engine big time. Overall the new car is nicer but the 2020 V6 is way better. Not sure why they got rid of that engine especially with how it performed with power and mpg.
If you had someone who could drive manual, The 2010 would have destroyed the 2020. Looks like he blew the shift at the end of the drag race and if he would have launched it at 4000 rpm it wouldn't have even been a race
I am happy with my 4G TL. All I am doing is weight lowering mods. Lighter wheels, better suspension parts. If I can find a lighter hood, that will be good too.
They really don't make a hood lighter than stock. Lots of people looked into CF hoofds and trunk lids but decided to keep it stock due to the price vs benefit.
@@meeralrafee1875 From 2012 I wouldn't say fixed, but improved on the oil burning. It still burns oil but far less. Plus it also might depend on the oil. My car burnt more oil using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for whatever reason. I constantly trying new oils to see which works best.
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Damn, the old school 3.5L V6 still packs a hidden punch! Great race, having three different generations of the same vehicle makes for an exciting video! Well done Sam
that's a 3.7
@@aoescool I was referring to the 2020 TLX running down the new 2021 TLX 2.0L.
@@chrisholmes344 It's not old school if it's only 1 year apart from the 2020 and 2021 tlx, to be honest lol.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 the car isnt old but the j35 is an old engine,a pretty good one.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 it’s old school if the power train is obsolete (at least in the sense of the TLX) which is a pity because it was a damn good power plant.
I wish they would've kept the old TL body style, but slightly updated it. I always liked the look of those TLs.
They should’ve just change the front end of the car and slightly update the rest of it
They need to bring it back with leds and modern interior or atleast give that look to the accord wtf
No man, the back of the old TL looked like the front too
I have one and I love it, 4th generation. I love 08 Acura TL type S bring it back!
For sure
I actually own a 2010 Acura TL: 3.7 liter V6 with 6 speed manual transmission and all wheel drive.... They don't make this kind of car anymore.
Incredible body sculpting on that car 💦 has similar body language to the Mazda style
Sweet ride
One of Acura's best.
I remember when it first came out, I was blowned away by it.
Yup. I had exactly the same with ATLP exhaust. Great car. I sold it to an enthusiast who was willing to pay 5k over my asking.
nice car...just fat and not too pretty.
@@gw4886 The New TLX makes these generations look like Bulemic Supermodels what are you saying
Newer isn’t always better. The 18-20 has the perfect blend of looks and performance if you choose the V6
Your absolutely right I got the ‘19 as well💪🏾
Facts
But also the new tlx has the type s, which is probably faster than all these
@@ciello___8307The new TLX is extremely slow and I mean it ms slow it’s slower than all these V6 JDM cars
Who’s ready to watch the J37 take the new boys to church?
That would be cool the 8th gen accord vs 9th & 10th
TL SHAWD has a J37
@@vasekvi The TL, ZDX, and the 3rd gen MDX are the only Honda products to use the 3.7.
@@La-yt1wr 3rd gen mdx has j35
I'm saying the TL won. I love Sam but the TL got the W.
The J35 reigns supreme, and the engine would have delivered its power much better paired with the Honda 10 speed auto rather than the 9 Speed ZF.
That's the only application of a ZF auto transmission that has underperformed and disappointed. Was the Honda transmission software to blame?
@@EgguEd51 I suspect so, they tuned the 9 speed ZF in the TLX for economy, I mean I owned the TLX, the tranny wasn't that bad, it shifted slow especially in the first 2 to 3 gears, after 3rd gear it was better. I had to reset my transmission, it did a little better but not by much. The 10 speed sounds like it has much smoother shifts. The new MDX with the same J35 but with the 10 speed auto has proven to be faster than the previous gen with the same J35 but with the 9 speed ZF.
@@Heman88888 new mdx with 10speed is more than 1 sec slower to 60mph than previous gen with 9 speed
@@김동준-t9pno apples to apples comparison. The new one is larger in all dimensions, is heavier by 250-300lbs, and I think the engines is all new. I know the new pilot V6 is all new so I imagine the latest mdx also uses the all new engine.
Either way 0-60 and quarter mile performance is almost identical between the ZF A9 and Honda A10. Check out C&D tests between the pre facelift Odyssey in a lower trim ZF A9 and higher trim Honda A10.
Nope, performance would have been identical. Check out C&D tests results between 2018 Odyssey ZF 9 speed and Hondas 10 speed. 0-60 and 1/4 are within .1 second of each other. Even fuel economy is basically identical. 10 speed only shows big improvement when you stomp on the pedal. It's quicker and smoother to respond because its logic is better. But in a drag race you won't notice an improvement.
After 8 gears, more gears won't be that beneficial for performance or mpg. For example, 6th gen Camaro 8 vs 10 speed have pretty identical acceleration till 110mph. After that there is a slight difference because the 10 speed has an extra gear to stay in its power band. But again it's negligible throughout the 1/4 mile. Also mpg between 8 and 10 speed are less than 1mpg apart.
What about 9th Gen V6 Accord vs 1st Gen TLX which shares the same engine?
It's not the same engine. Unless you want to call all Honda V6 3.5 the same engine.
@@vasekvi you would be surprised at how many people think they’re the same engine
No, they aren't the same engine. Both are J35Y engines but different models with different specs.
I wanna see that
They’re very similar. 9th gen J35Y is port injected with 10.5 compression. The newer engine is direct injected with over 11 compression. 11.2 maybe?
Been waiting for this for a long time lol! Great video! It does seem like in the last race, the 2021 TL Owner lifted early. A well driven TL 6MT SH-AWD should be running high 13's in the 1/4 mile and would be capable of beating the other two.
The new TLX 2.0T kept up better than I thought. That 10AT and its shorting gearing may be the key to its launch.
Fake video. Didn't show real run. 4th gen guy sent me real link. Killed that trash. Fraud
The tlx 2.0 has wayy more torque with the turbo. Thats obvious when you see how well it gets off the line. The v6 cars start to catch up at high speed since they have more horsepower
Correct on the shorter gearing. Despite the 10AT being a torque converter it moves extremely well. Want the complete 10AT swap from the 2.0T Accord and drop it in a Del Sol. FB0, Hondata Stage 2 and the stock turbo. Such a cheat code in that car.
Would love to see : 3G 07-08 TL type-S 6spd manual vs 2010 6spd vs 2020 tlx aspec.
That's what I'm talking about!
Type s would win hands down
The 4th gen tl is a sleeper I’m excited
Agreed. The 3.7L 6MT TL was definitely a sleeper: it looked nearly identical to the 3.5L auto, but about a second quicker to 60 and 1/4-mile. It was the "Type S" of its generation, except only without the Type S badges.
Yes
@@nallis01 for the car being discontinued in 2014 model year it was fast, and to be completely honest nobody asked for your opinion.
@@nallis01 In it’s day...
@@TheBreakfastLover and without the Brembo’s
The new TLX should’ve had that glorious direct injected V6 as a base engine.
Unfortunately the world has gone 4 cylinder turbo crazy
@@bruhmanjonesss7779 i find it hilarious that they did it for “fuel efficiency and emissions”. Yet the turbo 4 returns worse fuel efficiency.
@@msrr1303 the j35 is also way smoother and sounds much better.
MS RR lol that's crazy
Po Pe Ya the induction noise and V6 warble on the J35 Earth dreams sounded real good
Finallyyyyy the perfect drag race old vs new Acura’s
Am I the only one that thinks the 4th gen TL is getting better looking with age? Especially the refreshed 2012-2014 version.
I think this should become a series taking 2-3 generations of the same car! Sam you rock!!
2010 is king!!
The most beautiful!
The most powerful!and the most bang for your buck!
If its the 3.7L 6spd how are they putting it in sport mode? Gotta be the auto they are using. The 6spd should beat all of them no problem
It does, they just had a crappy manual driver
God this is one lovely video love it!! There’s rarely these types of comparisons and this ones one of them!
Drive a 2014 A spec 3.7 sh-awd myself, hands down the best vehicle I've ever owned.
2010 is my favorite. I remember being in high school thinking that was the best looking car. Now 10 years later, I still think it is an amazing looking car. it has aged very well.
Love at 1st sight. Waited until I could find a 6 speed. Don't like the new stuff. No styling like the 4th gen
I truly believe it was ahead of its time!
@@AcuraPerformance way way ahead. You put the new garbage next to it and matches up almost the same minus a few new toys but that's it. Other than that I wouldn't even trade up for the new one. I'm just gonna keep my maintenance up and keep it unless they do another 6 speed
I sold Acuras for a few years and a couple times I got to drive a 13 TL 3.7 shawd 6sp manual. That really is a special car.
Agreed! You really have to drive one to appreciate it. It's definitely underrated.
Those Honda v6 engines sound so good. Even if the 4 cyl is faster off the line, is it as fun to rev out ?
I have the 4 cyl 2019 tlx a spec and I can confirm it’s fun to rev out lol
No. They aren't and won't be. A 2.0 litres engine is too small for that size vehicle.
@@AL-ib9yc I think he meant the 2.0t in the new TLX. Your 4 cylinder has a k24 with the dct, excellent combination, that 8 speed dct is lightning quick
@@williamlevy1981 agreed, unfortunately, the world has gone insane and everything is getting downsized and switching to EVs
I picked the TLX 2020 to be the overall winner. I purchased a new 2010 TL Tech SH-AWD (don't ever recall there being a 2010 A-SPEC, and it looks like the one featured here was wearing aftermarket exhaust tips/finishers) with a 6spd manual and replaced it with a 2019 A-SPEC V-6 SH-AWD after the TL was totaled in a collision caused by a 16 y/o. As fast as that TL was, I believe that even though my 2019 is rated with less horsepower and has a slightly smaller engine displacement, that the 2019 is quicker. I've driven the 2nd gen as a dealer loaner and as much as I like how quick it is, displacement of the V-6 over the I-4 turbo, along with the 2nd gen's heavier curb weight, I felt would prevail.
I am looking at a 2019 V6 A-Spec/Tech...anything I should be aware of or to look for? This one has 40,000 miles and is under the recall where I believe the engine will be replaced...
The TL SHAWD 3.7L (the silver car) when properly launched will run 0-60 in 5.2 with the MT. These tests only demonstrate one facet of comparative linear performance from a dig. For example, can we really say the car that traps first is the fastest when the losing car is actually running faster at the finish? Yes per that selected race distance, but mostly No. Extend the race and the losing car will overtake to win. Torque & traction wins the short sprints, but top end speed goes to superior hp-to-weight-ratio, to gearing & to lowest coefficient of drag.
Great point
Fraud video. Guy in 4th gen sent me link of real run. Trashed that garbage fake video. He needs to show real run
I own the 4th Gen 3.7 the Awd is a beast
It's a monster
Got the 2010 unicorn 6 speed. New stuff is garbage
The middle is the best looking one
LOVE IT!!! So interesting that there's such a small difference between these three generations. Please do Type-S comparisons next!!! 2004-08 gen Type-S vs the 2021 Type-S.
3G was only available in -07/08 as Type-S
Btw the new type s would completely leave the second gen type s (not second gen of the TL, but the second gen of the TL type s they made) in the dust. The type s back then is pretty much just as fast if not slower than the last 2 generations of the v6 ASpec and this generation’s 4 cyl. It’s kind of like how integras and legends today aren’t fast but they sure were fast 20 years ago
Cant wait till get more subs u give the viewers races that we want. Everyday cars people buy and drive them hard. Thank you.
Try the 08 6 speed TLS and it’ll gap the new TLX. Even that 4th Gen TL gapped you he just let off if you can tell
Great point
Thank you Sam for getting this one together. It was very enjoyable to watch. 🙂
0-60 it looks like the 2021 is the quicker car, but at the top end the 2020 TLX overtakes it.
The 4 cylinder turbo was most impressive to me. By the numbers I was expecting it to be further behind. The V-6 car just barely passed right at the end. Give it a tune and it wins.
I'll never understand why Acura added more weight and made less power as each generation went on
Thank you brother ... super happy we the results... I drive the 2020 sh AWD..ufff I know by fact was more faster vs 2021 😂
First of all I think you guys are geniuses for using older models with newer models , I really enjoyed this video , but I think the fact that the 2021 tlx only has 4 cylinders it's at a big disadvantage against 2 v6 cars even tho it's newer .. can't wait to see more videos like this 👍
Dude 3 gens of accords would be sick! V6 vs V6 vs 2.0t
I own a 2012 Acura TL. In Sport I was going toe to toe with a Mustang V8. I visited an Acura dealership, I tested the 3rd Gen TLX in a testdrive and realized how much slower it was than my Acura 2012 TL. Needless to say, I wasn’t interested in buying it! I don’t know what happened with the new Acura/Honda performance. It severely declined. I still have my 2012 Acura TL today in 2024! Little known fact too, the 2012 Acura TL can be safely tuned if done professionally, to over 1000 horsepower!!!!! It’s a “Fast And Furious” vehicle!!!!!
Love to see it against accord 2.0t with Acura 2nd generation
thanks for the efforts man you are amazing ,keep doing this nice work
Yeah it will be very interesting. My bet is the 2020 Tlx will will. Then the 3rd gen, then the 2021 will come in last due to weight
There's is no 3rd gen here. That's the 4th gen TL and it's the 3.7L 6MT (not the 3.5L 5AT), so it should win this one easily.
What they don’t tell you is that the new TLX 2.0 T gets much worse MPG than the outgoing V6. I would suspect that Honda found that the 2.0 T costs less to make and this was all about $. I tried going 65 mph for 10 miles in the new TLX after resetting the trip computer. The MPG showed 29. The V6 would get 35 MPG easily. The V6 Accord with the VCM would’ve gotten 40 MPG.
2020 surprised me compared to the 21, but the real shock was the 2010 TL. Try a 2011-2012 RL versus because the TLX has supposedly taken its place.
4th Gen TL FTW 🙌 stock for stock…
That guy in that TL 10 seems to have let off the gas at the end. That 10 TL is faster
I did slow down because it was reaching the end of the track. I figured I was already ahead and started to brake when I approached the marker.
4th Gen TL still looks best IMO, I got a Basque Red Pearl one.
That's rare!
I just don't get why they would make the newest the slowest. It looks like it should be fast but it is very tamed.
Veey cool video😎
You should do this with the acura RDX....
2.7 Turbo / V6 VTEC/ and the new 2.0 turbo
He always gets in the new car that he thinks the fastest but always gets beat 😂
Do the 2018 tlx vs the tlx type s now lol
This
Never knew the 4g TL had a sport mode, unless it's the TLX that has it instead.
It was confusing because I added a sprint booster on my TL. Sam didn't want it engaged because it was an advantage.
True but the turbo 4 cylinder 2021. Has a lot of potential. I like 2021 better
Shawd He launched on the 20 tlx 2nd race nasty like! thanks for showing the 10 shawd is a Great car I love my 10 shawd 3.7 6spdmany i would never trade t for either 1 of those knock offs
You got yourself another 🦄 my friend👏🙌🏼.
I actually messed it up when my Mugen aftermarket shift knob came off on the first race.
I was really into the race until I looked at the Sun at 7:30 and got lost.... It looks so beautiful
Great video. I'd take a V6 over a dinky 4 cylinder any day.
i find it strange that all the Acuras i own are discontinued, lol…i never knew the TL came in a 6-speed…i can only imagine how much that is to drive
I love it! It's nice to drive it stock . But a few bolt on mods, it's a different animal.
Ohhh this will be fun.
I predict that Acura will win.
The tls didn't had grip because the run ways was sticky for the others
The TLX owner had 20's aftermarket wheels on China brand tires so that's a disadvantage. Brake pads and rotors as well cause they were overheating.
I drive a 2015 Acura TLX
And I took it to the dealership for some routine maintenance
And they gave me a 2022 it felt so slow and sluggish!!!
Is the driving mode selector a Canada specific feature? My 4g TL SHAWD manual does not have that
It's the Sprint Booster that I installed for better throttle response. I had to turn it off for the normal mode run. That explains why my timing was way off. It also didn't help that my aftermarket shift knob came off, that's why I missed second gear on the first run. I think the 4th gen did okay considering the shift knob malfunction. That Sprint Booster is a great investment if you're looking in to it. A lot of times guy's would rather put money on a k-tuner but it also cost way more.
@@AcuraPerformance oh gotcha! I may have skipped the part where the sprint booster was mentioned. First run was way off, but the 4th gen really sticks it to the TLX's when you get the launch and shifts down. Acura shouldve put some more money into J37 research and design.
That's my 4g!! Definitely a sleeper
4th gen SH-AWD 6MT have normal and sport mode ?
It's a sprint booster I installed that increases throttle response. Normal, sport and racing.
This is going to be good! I wish you could've found a Gen 3.
Gen 3 are slow off the line , so definitely bad comparison.
Bring in the 2008 Acura TL type s
Can we get another race. I feel the tlx didn't get a good race with the TL. I knew the new TLX would lose. Look at thr trap speeds for that thing. It's much lower than any of the older ones.
Brilliant NA V6. Too sad its gone.
Still watching this video and in amazement that nobody calls out the fact the 2010 doesn't have sport or sport plus mode....lol the "sport" mode only make the paddles usable. Doesn't make it faster in anyway
I thought the video was awful they literally don’t know what they are talking about and the 10 tl driver sucks at shifting
This 6mt had an aftermarket sprint booster hooked up. Sam just wanted to make sure that all cars involved are in the same setting.
You turn off A/C but don't brake torque for the quickest take off? I'm confused...
i can see that the v6 is faster after some get up and go but I want to know which one handles better in every day driving? Meaning which of the TLXs are more willing to take a 90 degree turn?
That 2020 j35 looks sexy as hell!!!! If they had just upgraded the interior
Did the old TLX owner short shift the new TLX on that last race ? And did the 6 speed TL owner have a little roll out from the race he won ?!?
9:05 is when the 4G TL let off the gas
Great point
Big up the yard man, Jamaica
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Can we see a 3rd gen type S in the mix?
Couldn't find an auto tl but a 6 speed first time hearing that
I like that you let the owners drive the newer car so they don't have the owner/driver mod advantage
Holy shit! As a 2011 TL owner, I had NO expectation that my car was still relevant lol. Thanks for bringing older cars on the show!
I didn't know there were multiple driving modes in the manual TLs. I own a 2010 3.7 5sp I only have Drive and Sport for Transmission, that's all.
@@orangeVSappel there isn't lol. I think it was a weird mix of words where Sam meant the TLX was in comfort or sports mode.
@@orangeVSappel I installed a sprint booster that increases throttle response. It has 3 settings normal,sport and racing.
Agreed. My 2006 TL 6-speed was strong. Tangled with a V6 SE-R Altima early one morning, very close race... love the Acura’s!
I got the 2010 6 speed. Would not trade it for that garbage
This just shows how well Honda was doing even 10 years ago, the J series V6 was always superb sounding and performing!
This was another impressive video...shout out to everyone who made it work especially being able to get those cars stock (without tuning) to verify the difference. As always thank you.
Fake video. Didn't show real video of the 4th gen killing his trash push Button dial a trans garbage. Tell him to upload real video run
Hell yah 4G ftw!🤙 There's no different modes though, it's always in Sport mode just need TC off.
I was about to say, my 4th Gen 6MT was about to be crazy if I found the “sport +” mode
First run it looks like the tl got a bad take off
It has a sport mode , and it holds the gears better
@@Kinggunna87 the tl was a manual 6mt Is the sports mode 🤣
@@makeshiftgarage1480 oh shit ! Lol
Can't wait, I love Acuras.
Man a 3rd gen 6 speed would of been awesome to add to the mix
Nah, you know why? FWD TL's will always be slower during launch.
@@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 true, but the weight savings are decent too
Wasn't the manual only available I'm the 200hp 2.4 4cyl? I think it would have gotten smoked. I like that generation the best tho
@@erichenry1472 Nah, I’ve got a 3.2 v6 with 6speed lsd in the shop now, and that’s just the base model TL
@@erichenry1472 swapping the drivetrain into a 7th gen accord coupe
I owned three 4th generation TLs and one 1st generation TLX V6. Will very likely own a 2nd generation TLX by next summer, maybe in Type S trim. Can't wait to watch this video.
Ehh so you owned 4 of the same model??? Unreliable?
@@dnegel9546 I owned two ‘12 TL Advance models and one ‘13. No problems with any of them. Rock solid.
Fraud video. Didn't show real run. 4th gen dude sent me link. Toasted that garbage. Tell him to show real run
That 2010 Acura aged very well.
The 6mt aged even better, would love to see that race
The 2012 aged well. The 2010 needed a rhinoplasty
@@dmanatan It still looks good to me. I would still buy one.
Sorta yes
@@bryceharper8509 according to the intro at 0:25 , this is a 6mt race
At 0:35 just blows my mind how throughout the years the car became heavier with a smaller engine- less horsepower but with more gears in the transmission. I just wish the engines remained 3.7l v6 with more horsepower either turbo or supercharged. Is it just me or anyone agree?
Yeah it's ridiculous, I drive a modded RSX Type-S and I like Acura, but they made a lot of questionable choices ngl
You are correct. 4th gen dominant over new garbage. Bad shifting was The issue.
4th gen ppl gotta stick up for their cars. I don't listen to any bad reviews or critics about "THE GRILL".
there is way more to that car. It was ahead of its time and still a head turner for me. When they see the 6 speed monster rocking back and forth at the red light I get looks of confusion because they can't belive its a manual shift until she jumps and takes off. I love the 4th gen and even got the auto sh awd
He is a fraud. Didn't show real run. Dude in 4th gen sent me the link. He killed that trash. Fraud video
Thanks for having me it was a pleasure, I could have grabbed the new 2021 but after this video I'm glad I bought the 2020 instead. So I literally just want the interior of the 2021 in my 2020.
Are you running a CAI in yours?
@@SAT1337 what is a CAI(Cool air intake)?
@@IZRAW Yes.
@@SAT1337 no sir...I have just wrapped the roof and mirror in satin black ....chrome powder coated my alloy rims, painted my calipers and have LED changing lights behind my front grill....even my staggered wheel step up came like that from the dealership.
@@IZRAW Ah ok, must have been the TL then with that intake sound. I have the same car TLX A-Spec SH-AWD though it's a 19'. Did you install those LED lights behind the grill yourself?
TL IS A LEGEND!
Actually the TL was a Vigor
The RL was the Legend. ;)
@@ljpr360 yessir both legends!
Wrong the legend was the legend long live ka7
@@ljpr360wrong vigor was before both the legends lower end was a vigor eg ka7 with smaller engine
The best Acura sedan wasn’t a Type S.
4G 6MT J37 TL is king.
The 6MT J37 TL was more than worthy of the Type S badge. It was significantly quicker than the 3.5L auto.
Unfortunately Acura at the time was going thru a weird identity crisis: beak grille, hiding exhaust tips, testing out an "eco-luxury" image post-2008 economy. So they killed off the Type S badge.
Acura TL Type-S will always be and look better than the J37 TL... 3rd Gen Type-S with a J37 is king... the other one too heavy LOL
@@WTFVideos_4416 no. I had a 3G Type S. With a J37 swap. And the 4G was and is far better.
Have a few videos in my channel.
@@msrr1303 better weighing 300lbs more? You swapped to j37 but couldn’t throw the 6 speed in there lol? If your j37 3g tl was 6 speed manual you would change your mind as it would be way quicker than a 4g 6mt
@@Buhz93 the 6MT 4G is just 200 lbs heavier. Plus it has SHAWD and way better interiors. It’s a better car period.
I really like the styling of the previous gen TLX. The interior didn't match the greatness of the exterior though.
That 2010 body style was ahead of its time! Still looks good
2004-2008 body style still the best to me
@@robg4899 I feel ya but i don't think it's as timeless.
I think same thing to the look was so different from a lot of cars …I always liked the look
And he lied and didn't show real video. 4th gen guy sent me link of real run. Fraud video. 4th gen dusted that garbage
@@dentpulla You keep saying this yet you dont post a link or anything. Don't get me wrong, I know that TL is faster than the V6 TLX but you've gotta back it up.
Just from that shot, I can see why the new Type-S is 4200 lbs...
The old tl looks more futuristic than their newer one 🤔
Great point. New gen is just regular average looking. Nothing touching 4th gen
4th gen was way ahead its time! But each generation has its unique beauty.
@@AcuraPerformance if you look at all the cars that came out during the 4th gen, nothing looked like it or matched its style. Ppl focused on THE GRILL and didn't even talk about the rest of the car which wasn't fair. It had features that cars didn't have and an engine that was on pace with European cars
@@keylkq6207 right? They'd be hating on the car just because of that lol. It's one of those either you love it or hate it. You really have to drive it to appreciate it.
Thank you for seeing the new gen for what it is. It doesn't stand out other than that big ugly grill. Other than that the car is plain Jane. The 4th gen stands out til this day. I still turn heads when they see it switching gears. Ppl pull up and I hit a gear and take off like a 🚀rocket 😁
New TLX is chockingly heavy compared to previous generations!
They are packing a lot of tech in the newer cars that makes them bloated.
And sadly they don’t have the power to push all that weight. The New Type S has 350hp but is only 200 pounds less than a hellcat
@@alexismendoza1545 Exactly, good point there! I understand the revised SH-AWD is heavier but the car is still lacking power to weight ratio in my opinion. If they ever make a new ILX « compact sedan » in 2022 as advertised, I hope it’s gonna be max 3200-3300 pounds.
@@alexismendoza1545 to be fair it's also 2/3 the price
That’s what happens when you stuff in that much technology.
I had a 2020 V6 Aspec and now have the 2021 version. The V6 feels way stronger and I also got better real world gas mileage in it. I miss that engine big time. Overall the new car is nicer but the 2020 V6 is way better. Not sure why they got rid of that engine especially with how it performed with power and mpg.
I have the 18 and 20. Love the V6
That’s because that V6 is replaced by the new 3.0t in the Type S. The new 2.0t replaces the old 2.4 TLX
LMFAO you went from a 2020 aspec to a 2021, when genesis g70 exists, what a joke.
@@kenmeluso1952 yes acura went backwards, time to hop brands!
@@roboticvenom1935 the question for me is which brand? I was looking at Audi
Let’s go team 4gen ❤️
Mdx aspec : hold my joint
4th gen the best. That new stuff garbage
If you had someone who could drive manual, The 2010 would have destroyed the 2020. Looks like he blew the shift at the end of the drag race and if he would have launched it at 4000 rpm it wouldn't have even been a race
This is what I’ve wanted to see 🤩 made me like my TLX a lil more
Long live the v6
i agree 18-20 for the win!
@beansr7556 that sane motor in the 2015 2016 and 2017
Love your drag races. Can we get a Acura 2008 TL Type S vs. 2nd or 3rd Gen TLX? Keep them coming.
Ahahaha nice to see that 3.7 V6 TL kick their asses ;)
I am happy with my 4G TL. All I am doing is weight lowering mods. Lighter wheels, better suspension parts. If I can find a lighter hood, that will be good too.
They really don't make a hood lighter than stock. Lots of people looked into CF hoofds and trunk lids but decided to keep it stock due to the price vs benefit.
Does your have oil burning problems? If you have the sh awd
@@meeralrafee1875 My car is 2013, so the oil burning is reduced compared to earlier models. Yes, it is a SH-AWD.
@@raphaelfrancis4509 So they fixed the problem from the 2012 model years when they facelifted it?
@@meeralrafee1875 From 2012 I wouldn't say fixed, but improved on the oil burning. It still burns oil but far less. Plus it also might depend on the oil. My car burnt more oil using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for whatever reason. I constantly trying new oils to see which works best.
The 2010 3.7L is a beast.