6 REASONS WHY I DROPPED OUT OF NYU
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- **EVERYTHING IS MY PERSONAL OPINON AND BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE**
I was in Gallatin School of Individualized Study, which was actually one of the best parts of NYU, and I loved the majority of my classes and professors. My main issues had to do with the bigger picture and institution.
I'm really not trying to trash the school. There were definitely things I liked but the negatives outweighed the positives for me, so I left.
Current NYU sophomore. Huge huge huge applause for having the courage to know your mind and act on your feelings. Everything you said is 100% real. The fake progressivism is very evident, and you’re spot-on about far-left ideologies being silenced. Best of luck at Minerva and beyond, friend!
Karan Iyer Thank you!! :)
Karan Iyer Binod
Please don’t ever stop talking. You’ve got a great head on your shoulders. The world needs more open minded, observational, non biased people like you. 😁
I feel like the fake progressivism and institutional issues are for the most part inescapable in American life. This is just how our society works. I hate it but I think I will still attend a college with these problems. It's really great you got into Minerva, I wish I had the courage and personality to try something that is so new and untested and international. At the same time, I know that dealing with shitty institutions is not something I can just run away from all of my life. I'm going to have to face them head on
Indoctrination by higher education.
I am currently a freshman at NYU and I have learned 2 things from this video: 1) I am dropping out of college. 2) I have a crush on this girl.
Agreed. Only worth it if you have full scholarship.
DAMMMM! I graduated from NYU 39 years ago and EVERYTHING you said was going on back then (Super expensive {100 dollars credit, remember the time} , fake egalitarianism, books only at NYU Bookstore, never took out one book from the RED Monster (Bobst) [FYI at least one person jumped to their death from the 9th floor catwalk, marble floor as I remember]. Lousy food. WTF!
Woah!!!!🥺 Sorry man. Any regrets/regurts?
I went to NYU in 2012-2014 and they have reinforced the inside of Bobst with metal bars to prevent that from happening. They were in the process while I was going to school there.
I got in just now for undergrad although I won't be attending. The only reason I'm heavily considering the place for post-undergrad is because of the free (no tuition) medical school. I just want to use that to my disposal. I'm more confident that I can get in with the proper work in the future because of this.
CHRISTI XX that’s definitely a huge reason! Congrats btw!
Just because you got into NYU for undergrad does not mean you get prioritized consideration for NYU Langone
Hi . Please how did you get in? Like what you had to do to get admissions
Ok some of you can chill. I clarified my comment because I wasn't paying attention to what I was writing lmao.
And yeah, NYU's aid is not the best.
@@anyaharachiamaka4022 i have the same question
Wow, this was extremely eye opening, thank you!
This sounds like a US-wide school problem. Not an NYU one. You honestly can't keep running from every institutional flaw. You'll be left without places to eat, sleep, learn and grow (coming from a black girl).
Sophia Ottleu check your tone police!
I love Sophias post. I respect the person who uploaded the video, but Sophia is absolutely right. I had to just get through high school and college regardless of institutional flaws. It’s not like these periods of life last forever. And enduring things you don’t like builds character. Not throwing shade at the original poster, just giving Sophia props because that’s real talk.
Nice to know. That's just how being an adult is lol. Or CAN be.
Hbcu’s aren’t like that though
Kelsey Smith aren’t hbcus centered around carrying out culture (specifically black culture)? they’re less likely to have institutional flaws towards any one that goes there right? *coming from a high school student*
Forced meal plans !! This is unbelievable. That looks like a good deal for the catering company - in general this is a strange way of functioning. By the way, it is the same company that deals with the catering in the University of London. I am glad students are clever enough to disagree with these policies and highlight these issues.
i feel like most universities are like this
I’m so glad the professors at my university show us other ways to purchase our textbooks. Sometimes they’re free and I feel so relieved when that happens. The division and favor for progressives is probably in all universities, including mine. I’m a progressive, however, it is scary to have differing opinions, since the majority is ready to pounce on you, including professors.
This video was great to see as a high school sophomore. I was considering applying to NYU as one of my top choice schools, but now that seen this video, a lot of what I've seen from their website makes the school seem like a place that just wants to take your money(i.e. no merit based scholarships,75k a year, etc.). Thanks for helping me save my money in the future.
I ended up going to CUNYBA and saving a shit load of money
You're right about how your gut knows you're on the right path. I currently feel like I'm stuck at my current college. I've applied to transfer out, but there's no guarantee, as well as, it's hard to find the major I'm heading for. It's great you had a chance to get out.
Thanks so much for the video!! I’m a current Johns Hopkins freshman from China and will be transferring to Minerva next semester. At JHU, I feel like I’m locked inside a very Americanized campus bubble where even the so-called study abroad program I participated in had this strong “American supremacy” vibe that made me feel suffocated. Like you did at NYU, I have been absolutely enjoying the classes and exploring completely new fields that I’ve never imagined before - but amazing academics and professors (and friends) alone don’t make me feel any happier in this bigger homogeneous environment. My favorite prof was very disapproving of my decision to transfer (or take a gap year) before I was accepted to Minerva, and I was also unsure about giving up on these valuable opportunities to gain expertise in this fascinating field (History & East Asian Studies in particular). I feel like I’m in a pretty similar situation as yours last year, and I would love to hear your opinion! Thanks again for sharing your experience!
I'm in a community college because most of my teachers in high school said it would be better to start off at a community college. After what you said, I now see why. Thank you for this eye opener.😮
Im glad I went to CC instead but because it was my only choice since Im not in APush hahahaha. so turned out good for me!
As a person who worked in the undergraduate admissions department at a pretty famous US university, I can break down that $70k price tag:
1. Sports (if you are a Div I school)
2. Administrative costs. Reading prospective students' essays and applications, creating brochures and mailing out to prospective students, etc
3. Other meta costs. Running the website and academic portal, other IT needs, etc
4. Other student life activities
Uni in the US is a riot of a business.
NYU is a brand, that's it.
OMG thank u for making this I got into NYU and this helped my decision process 🙏🙏🙏
Ingrid Sophia Lyons what was your gpa?
Same!!
You wise woman
Thank you :))
I agree with a lot of the things you said! Loved listening to you talk through all of this.
dude... thank you so much. super helpful perspective and your video was fun to watch. thank you and I hope you're doing well!
Eric Nicholas thanks!!
NYU is ridiculously overpriced. There’s so much about the real world you just won’t learn there unless they can hook you up with an internship. State schools are really good even though they don’t have the stuck up prestige factor NYU or Columbia gives you. Good for you for having the courage to make this decision.
I didn’t really realize how much I appreciate nyu and my experience there till I watched ur video. Hope u find as good a school, better fit to ur ideology
What's your favorite thing about the University?
Hey! Thank you for this video. I just applied to NYU to escape a small liberal arts college. I was considering applying to Gallatin but ended up deciding to apply to Tisch for film. These issues about feeling scared to voice your own opinion definitely happens elsewhere, as it does at the small liberal arts school I attend to the point where people, who are also left, have expressed feeling unsafe (me included). Additionally, the school has a fake-progressive ideology that they use for clout and is also around that price but lacks resources and is super small. I'm not sure if I should even bother transferring at this point based on what you're saying, or even go to school (as it seems all of them have similar issues :/ ). I do hope that you enjoy Minerva, but I know that constantly moving would not be the best for me.
Hey Michelle, I LOVED hearing your opinions. I think that you know what you want and you went for it even though it could be scary. At the end of the day, I really respect the fact that you saw nyu was insanely expensive and that wasn’t going to benefit you, in addition to the fact that you weren’t happy there. And yes! Trust your gut! Good luck in the future :)
Thank you for this! I just got in, and I am in between NYU and UNC. This video helped me in my decision making process!!
han park NYU student here. Don’t waste your money, go to UNC.
UNC the weather is amazing and it has a real campus that is beautiful 🙌🏽😂
UNC, cheaper and better.
Hi! I know you made this comment a few years ago but I was wondering if you were choosing between Tisch and UNCSA? If so, where did you end up going?
thank you for making this video, im planning on applying for fall 2021 and i was curious as to the downsides cus i hardly see anyone break their silence about it; needless to say this def gave me a diff perspective and i think it was very valid 😁
Thank you!! at everything you stated, nothing but FACTS
Love your honesty!
I tell my younger cousins not to go to a school for the name, but for what they can offer you educationally and if you feel like you're getting something out of it. Schools like NYU just look good cause of the lights they put on, and for your resume of course, but no one should ever have to struggle so much for getting their education. Especially now with Covid-19, many private institutions, and even some public institutions, have been showing their true colors as broad as day. I'm glad you dropped from NYU, even when I had auditioned for the mfa acting program, it had a vibe that felt overly superficial to it.
Transferring from a prestigious school like NYU to a zero-prestige online school makes no sense to me, but, it’s your life
Thank you for this video though!! It was awesome & helpful👏🏾
The Mbofholowo thanks! glad to hear you liked it!!
I really think you would have found university in the Uk a better option. Although i’m aware money wise it might not be an option. I feel English universities treat students like adults. We don’t do meal plans (or maybe some unis do mine personally didn’t) we live in uni flats and we cook for ourselves. At my university, this is all personal experience, if the library didn’t have a book or journal we could request it and 8/10 they would buy it or rent it from another university library for us to use. Sure my experience was not perfect but i feel like i was always treated like an adult not a kid being babysat.
I'm so glad to see you in Jade's videos but more glad to see you've got your own youtube channel! You're one arrticulate, eloquent and on point. Please update Michelle!❤😢
I decided to go back to college next year after several years of hiatus and lawlessness. I decided on NYU, knowing that price is atrocious but it’s the only school within reach that has what I want and what I need (Gallatin is that for me). 😭 I’ve heard the horror stories and the stereotypes of the school, but I likely won’t live in campus housing.
I hear you Michelle. I did an NYU "Pre-College" program the summer in between my junior and senior years of college -- it was ok, but the competition to get admitted to the program + register for the classes was INSANE! NOT even CUNY classes were that nuts to get into. 😱🤮 I also did two free Tisch "Emerging Artists" 14-week programs also during my junior and senior years (once again, INSANE competition to get into the program/courses), AND, then promptly left NYC to go to college in Massachusetts. 🤣 Nearly EVERYONE I went to high school with in Brooklyn went to NYU, I was OVER IT.
I had a MUCH better undergraduate experience at the small LAC I went to, versus my friends from high school who went to NYU. They were ALWAYS complaining about their experience, while I was pretty happy being up in New England, surrounded by nature, and having PLENTY of arts and culture around me, WITHOUT all the distractions of NYC (on top of NYU itself) to annoy me. Besides, I'd gotten QUITE ENOUGH of that growing up in Brooklyn. 🙄🤪
Good for you following your instincts. You should NEVER settle for being less than COMPLETELY happy on your academic journey. I'm 100% positive I would have dropped out of NYU myself had I gone there, ESPECIALLY as an undergrad. 👍
I myself returned SEVERAL years later to NYC to do post-graduate work @ NYU/Steinhardt, but by then, I wasn't as concerned with what attending NYU would be like, as much as I was just doing it to further my career so I could teach. BESIDES, it was a THOROUGHLY different experience as a post-graduate student for me @ NYU. I wasn't AT ALL invested whatsoever in campus life, I was just trying to complete post-graduate work, and NYU had the best program for it in my field, so c'est la vie.
I went to NYU for one semester, and I remember going to my orientation in August for two days for my program. When I went to the orientation, I felt like I was out of place. I was an older student so it felt like it was too much "being a showman" when it came to the orientation for two days. I transferred after one semester due to the costs and culture of the program.
hi hello I am also dropping out of nyu this spring (lol) thank you for sharing, this video resonated with me on a deep, deep level
Go girl! Sending love and support for you!!
@@michellezhang7275
NYU dropouts actually make 50% more than NYU grads
@@apolloclouds they ain't making more than the finance or econ grads tho 😂
USA is expensive??gurl We pay 150000 a year here
Where are you from?! Thats fucked!
I got accepted this year and I am extremely stressed on the decision
ZueGrace sammeee :/
if they give u full scholarship go, if not dont go lol
An how's it going on till now?💀
Charming. But naive. However, she's a thinker. That means there's hope for her.
I was literally just thinking abt you the other day and our class and then this vid popped up on my recommended
Lauren Child omg hello!!!!
did you transfer out of NYU into Minerva with only one semester in? or u can't transfer without having done 2 semesters?
Angela Yuan yep after one semester! Minerva doesn’t take enough transfer credits so you have to start over as a freshman but that also means they don’t care if you finish the year at your current uni or not!
@@michellezhang7275 Ahh thank u!! Also I saw Anna(Anna Shi) in ur vid and she told me ur the cutest in person!
Angela Yuan aww Anna!!
I apologize but what is Minerva? Is it a college because when I searched it up, I didn’t really get answers , it says it’s a university program. Does that means it’s just a uni?
Baris Tezel it’s a college that’s under keck graduate institute! The degree you get from it is just like any other bachelors degree but the experience you have is different
Michelle Zhang interesting! I’ll look into thanks!
You totally helped me when deciding whether or not I should waste money applying for an mba at Nyu
So expensive to go here and I am constantly being bombarded with administrations political viewpoints
I thank you for making this informational video about NYU
I went to MInerva College, it sucked. I left and went to NYU
I like your insights!! Glad you left!! You sound too smart for NYU!
Strong resentment vibes, perhaps you should not have dropped out.
This is very eye opening. Thank you!!
That's bull shit. NYU is one of the most open-minded institutions out there. Don't blame on your environment when you are the one not adapting to it and utilize the resources to enrich your experience. Best of luck with your future.
i’m a junior who has been on my knees to go to NYU and after this I don’t know, i’m lost and im confused because i’ve kind of put all of my eggs into one basket, which I know was not a good idea, but i thought that NYU, based off the things i heard and read, was the best school for me. if it isn’t NYU it’s going to be community college, and I’m worried i’ll end up hating it there because of things listed here in this video and the comments. help!!!😊
Well I wanted to go upstate but even with my minor stats NYU gave a full scholarship for tuition and half for room and board. I live in the Bronx. I just finished the college process and it was a very high and low process. I was originally going to Albany University
I’m in between NYU and Berkeley and honestly I’m so sTwessed
ruth Girl sameee with the exact schools!
ruth berkley its warmer
Berkeley is the MUCH BETTER university if you ask me. Better weather, a real campus, more liberal institution, better value because it's public, rather than private. She's right though, if you feel like you aren't in the right place instinctually for college, you will know it.
@@tillyboos Berkeley is NOT liberal. I'm not sure why people think that it still is. It's actually a very conservative town full of limousine Libs.
@@teedeebflips5187 they mean in terms of education not political ideology
its always about money...I agree with you, its just not worth it, they charge all kinds of weird fees
It's not surprised seven University of California schools are in the top ten most applied school in America. They are the best value school.
hmmmmmmm... and now Unis are crying that they have no students and no one is going to college hmmmmmmm. Thats wut they get!!!
In the end it all about perspective
I noticed you were in Gallatin which you say was your favorite part, as someone who struggles to choose between music and arts, would making a major at Gallatin be a smart idea? Do you get good internships or anything?
I'm at nyu and I have lots of friends who are in gallatin. I would highly recommend you go for gallatin if those are two things you love.
Steinhardt is good for that
Damn having second thoughts about applying from the uk now
It’s still a great school so give it a shot. It’s just Not for everyone
ur so smart omg i stan
also not to be dramatic but the ending when you said "know when the expiration date is" I started crying because I need to allow myself to change, but I think it's difficult to know what/where/how to do so
4:36 They said the same thing when I went to the open house....
I subbed right away because I following diverse channels, and she’s so adorable!!
Huge congrats to you! I was in the same boat in terms of my feelings about school so I left lol
Yoooooooo, mad respect. Mad respect
"If I don't use it, or if I don't need it, and I'm paying for it, it's basically a huge waste of money." Just wait till she finds out about taxes!
I pay taxes... and ok fair a lot of our tax money is wasted and that's a separate issue but a good portion also go to things that benefit our society like roads and schools... not sure if you can equate that to a res hall's pumpkin painting party? Just my personal opinion too btw! Not saying that's objectively not a fair comparison!
Did you visit the campus before applying?
3:13 lets be honest will there ever be a school that give that GOOD good food
Like A Boss // imaginable UCLA
Quinnipiac
Wash U in St. Louis. Good food!
You are one brilliant person. I wish you the best in life you have a great heart
honestly i don't care about the controversial stuff so nyu actually isn't that bad
You don't need college, you already are as smart as the professors!
could anyone advise me of how much do you really pay at nyu annually? (lets say at School of Arts and Sciences with all the expenses)
75k annually so basically 225k for four years
all your reasons literally included money
Cristal Gonzalez
which I think is a very valid concern. Michelle spoke on the problematic campus climate that is common to most predominantly white universities, especially those who claim inclusivity with diversity efforts. Economics plays a role in the sustainability of diversity and the practice of inclusion.
On a side note, I am aware that this was a comment made over a month ago, but since I just found this video today figured that I should send a response... Take care:)
Reason 1 was a good enough reason for me to laugh when I was accepted. I was like y’all are crazy if you think I’m going to pay this.
This makes me sad because NYU is my dream school but now hearing this it sounds like I shouldn’t go at all 😔
yo same tho, but now that I think about it majority of the universities in the US are like this so there no escape……
Hello Michelle it's Alyan I agree that NYU is mad expensive that's why I plan transferring to Hunter college
280k for a 4 year undergrad? Yikes. That’s ridiculous. Don’t blame you for leaving based on that fact alone.
CAN THIS VIDEO BLOW UP WOW
I agree
i was bachelors and masters school of the arts ; wish i hadnt
TRUE ABOUT EVENTS. LIKE I DONT WANNA PAY FOR SOMEONE TO PAINT FUCKING PUMPKINS OR EAT CAKE. I do not care. Should be optional.
The only good point was the high cost. Otherwise, this was a weak case against attending NYU.
The meal swipes are a sunk cost @iansamir
also i can tell you that as a working senior excutive in media and graduate nyu bachelors and masters school of the arts; prestige? i have never been asked at a job interview where i went to school once not ever
Literally every point you made can be argued for every large university. You said nothing substantial whatsoever.
Haha you are so funny!! Love this vid super helpful:)
All the students in the 60's protesting were suspended/arrested as well. That's a part of it. If the school is backing your protest, then what system are you protesting?
and the news are crying that no students are going to college.. hmmmmmmmm
I just got an admit in NYU Tandon School of Engineering for M.S. in Mechatronics and Robotics, I am really confused whether to go ahead with NYU or not, can someone help me please
Hello Hussain. I am in the same situation now (MS. in Mechatronics and Robotics). What did you decide?
Go to a 🇬🇧 UK or European Uni, they are much better value. Majority are Government backed & not-for-profit!
is it worth it to go if I didn't pay any tuition ??
Ofc !
Tbh any school acts like that bc of PR. Its annoying if anything.
I don't understand the distinction you were trying to make between like-minded and "like-opinioned"
Angela Peters Hi! For me, like-minded means you share the same values like open mindedness or critical thinking for example but you don’t necessarily need to agree and might even have opposing views for certain politics or social issues. Whereas when I said like opinioned I meant everyone has the same stance on most political social issues and how to solve them.
Are all these views applicable on NYU Tandon. I got admit for MS in CS . Having second thoughts:/
Did you end up going? If so, do you like it?
I love youuuu , you’re so woke!
very informative, thanks!
Wait, you must have a mealplan? Wow, I'm from te Netherlands and literally not a single university or college here that I know of offers mealplans, you're just expected to find yourself a house and fix your own dinner, I get why you thought it was annoying that you had to get that...
If you go to Evergreen State College in Washington, you'll see what "real extreme" liberalism is. Lol... NYU is just a piece of cake.
Good video, though. Very clear and constructed.
to quote my fellow communist friend: "the pros of most colleges is that they're pretty liberal...the cons of most colleges is that they're pretty liberal". to be honest, I would expect NYU to be suuuuuuper neoliberal but pretend they're progressive