Red Dot Zero | EDC | Combat Mindset | Navy SEAL | Jason Pike | 2022
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In this video We begin transitioning the mind from the scientific data we found on zero's to practical application of Red Dot Combative Shooting and then compare the zero's.
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most guys can't let go of their ego enough to learn combat effective shooting... they are to busy trying for 1 inch shot groups... the man here is giving valuable info...
Frogman as a retired combat infantry Marine (Iraq) I'm so glad you finally addressed this issue! This perfect shot mindset (scientific with perfect conditions etc as opposed to real life stressful environment) Well done and long overdue! Semper Fidelis Sailor!
Thank you from your service, Semper Fi Marine.
I totally agree. Perfect alignment cost you time and possibly your life. It's a pistol for crying out loud. Not a sniper rifle! 🤣🤣
In just this series of videos, I’ve re-learned so much about setting weapons zero and targeting principles. It had been 40 years since I worked a navy rifle range. Your explanations are clear, concise, fact-based, and logical. Everything you’ve said makes sense. Thanks for sharing a bit of your extensive expertise.
I'm 100% with you on combat accuracy vs. target accuracy. I went through the police academy in the early nineties, had guys that could shoot bullseye's all day long standing still with no stress. When the scenario changed and we started to move and shoot and stress was added to the mix those same guy's quickly became some of the worst shooters in the class. I could care less about target accuracy with my carry pistols, that's not what will win a gunfight. I don't believe 3 shots in a half dollar size will deliver as much damage as 3 shots in different areas of the torso. I got my 507c zeroed yesterday, my first pistol optic. Pretty quick and easy and I really like it and can see where it has it's advantages. Still won't give up on Irons though, but the optic is pretty badass. Thank you for your videos Jason, I feel you've taken my shooting to a new level.
A s a cop, speed and accuracy count. Speed because we are mostly behind the eight ball on most shootings. Accuracy because we are held liable for every bullet leaving your gun.Great videos I appreciate the information.
Absolutely.
11:41 buddy had a flashback 🤣
Real world training with no BS, it is AWESOME, and no cursing, what a concept! This IS NOT target practice, this is stopping the bad guy practice, big difference. Thanks again Frogman!! Slowly making my way through all your videos. Appreciate your time and experience!!
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As a retired American LE professional with 31 yrs experience, he's spot on regarding the closeness and timing of 99% of shootings. It happens so fast that you're not even thinking about your sight - you're reacting instinctively - point shooting (especially 5 yards) multiple rounds while moving hopefully to cover close by....PRACTICE efficient, smooth draws (smooth is fast)
LOVE YOUR SHOW!!!! Due to all body and head armor nowadays i no longer train 2 to the chest. I train 1 to the chest (basically stun) and then go straight to the hip area. Instinctive shooting is a must. Take your sights completely off, place a white paint dot on the back of your slide or hammer and train train train from point blank to up to 15 yards. Its both aggravating and fun. If you cant present your gun in a consistent manner than you aint ready for instinct shooting in my opinion. Meaning once you present your weapon if you have to hunt your red dot then id work on that. My fiancé and I have targets all over the house that we present and dry fire on all the time. We have basically turned our home into a CQB environment. Again, love your channel and thanks for all the great advice and help! 🍻
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I appreciate the real life scenario. I always tell people there are several different types of shooting. Specifically, competition shooting and real world. Competition shooting is all muscle memory and repetitive. The targets are not moving and always in the same place, same distance. I get people that want to always shoot sub MOA or pin point. I say if you can hit constantly within a 8 to 10 inch circle you are good.
I’m glad to see someone put this in perspective. Marksmanship is great for mastering the fundamentals, but gunfights don’t happen slowly and relaxed. In the Marine Corps I qualified out to 500 yards. But in practical application we set our BZO (Battle Sight Zero) to 300 yards. What that meant was that I could accurately hit anything from point blank out to about 500 yards if I had time to aim, but I could at least get a hit on a man sized target out to about 300 yards just by looking over the top of the barrel. Years of training exercises proved to me that this was effective combat marksmanship. Anything that hurts your enemy before he can hurt you is a win.
Great video series. As an older “gentleman” myself, I find it difficult to focus properly on the front iron sight. Red dots have been my salvation. Really like the co-witness technique. Will be giving that a test run this week at the range.
I'm really enjoying this series. I appreciate the fact that you focus on practical application.
Left smarter than when I came in. Throughly enjoyed the series.
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"too much pre workout this morning"🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 actually one of my favorite times to shoot is after my workout cuz u got the adrenaline and caffeine pumping. Not exactly combat stress but pretty close for civilians... Ur gunna b a little shaky and possibly a little weak or lack of fine motor skills
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Being a longtime hunter and rifle shooter with that pinpoint accuracy and tight group mindset, and now being new to concealed carry, this gives me a lot to think about, sure need to change my thinking when I’m on the street in the real world ! Thanks for the great info, and keep bringing these informative and easy to understand videos !
Accuracy does come into play. You just have to know when to combatives shoot and when to precision shoot. 🙏
“I will hip shoot you all day long” CLASSIC!
Thanks for this- new shooter here; need to recognize I am practicing for home defense, not a marksman badge. I want solid fundamentals, but ultimately I want to provide protection for my family. Great video series. I purchased a Shadow Systems War Poet- came with a red dot- this series has proven invaluable for my skills development. Thank you and thank you for your service.
Thats a great firearm to start with. John Lovell is top notch and helped design that pistol. Put that weapon system together with Frogman Tactics and you will be a force to be reckoned with!!!
Great gun
Always a trade off between speed and accuracy, before I watch the video I also set more or less the same standard. I agree 1000 %
Awesome information
I really like this video sir, it just reinforces what I've always been taught. I have learned a lot from your red dot videos because even going thru basic and being in the PA National Guard ( including basic) we never used red dots we were always taught and trained with iron sights and then when I purchased my p365 it came with a red dot and thats when I really got interested in using it and I was having difficulty transitioning and I found I had some fundamental issues and you really helped me realize what they were and I was able to correct them almost 100% so thankyou and keep doing what your doing. I hear and see a lot of guys trying to be as precise as they possibly can be and that's just not practical in self defense because it's obviously a lot easier to hit a stationary target at the range then being in real life with a moving target and other moving parts that aren't involved in the fight i.e civilians trying to get away. I really appreciate your videos and I really hope that some day I can join you on a range and learn even more
I always wondered about the low impact A-zone on civilian targets. Thanks for explaining.
Part of my training i give, all holes in a tight group shows solid fundamentals. Now work on rapid fire, goal is holes on target puts target down.
As a 19+ year LEO and firearms instructor, I completely agree with combat accuracy. People do need to realize that bullseye shooting is necessary to hone the fundamentals, but don’t get wrapped around the axle that when you start shooting at a faster pace or self-induced stress your group size opens up. Think about it this way - if you need to stop a bad guy, ten shots through the same hole is no better than one shot on dude. More holes are likely to stop dude faster. If you only shoot tight groups then you aren’t testing yourself and you are shooting too slow. Pick up the pace to an acceptable level of spread and slow down when it gets too big. Keep practicing and you will eventually get your groups small again at a faster pace. It’s an ongoing cycle. Great stuff, keep it up!
Absolutely agree 💯. Good input. 🙏
I went out today and zeroed my new Reddot and I used your technique and then shot the paper plate technique and was like finally a feel way better about my grouping. Thank you so much for this.
That is excellent! I’m glad we could help you. Now keep training! 🙏
The perfect grouping is when a threat stops moving
I love it. When I’m at the range I think of the tight groupings but when i see the results and I’m hitting the lower torso and extremities. neck shots etc. My thought is if this were a real life situation those misses still were affective and neutralizing the threat.
Awesome series Sir. Training, mindset and knowing the holds is what I got out of this series instead of constantly switching between 10 or a 25 yard zero. I did some running and gunning/ induced stress ( sprints and push ups) with a ten yard zero and at 5 to 25 yard targets its been within a 12 inch circle. Thank you Sir.
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This channel is the best! Practical and realistic not pretentious!
Love your training videos! I'm checking now to see if you've already made the video shooting your red dot 25 to 50 yards. I'd love to see that for sure. I'm new to the red or green dot. I've been procrastinating the installation of the Holosun SCS until I have the new Glock 26 gen 5 MOS. I have one now so, no more excuses! I carry my G26 gen 4 the most, daily all day. I've commented on your channel before how getting old and my eye sight isn't like before. Your videos have brought my shooting back to the fun I had when I was younger. When I hit what I was aiming at. Finally, I can hit what I'm aiming again. So much better, thanks for that! Finding your channel - game changer! You're a great person, God & Family, great American! God Bless You & Yours! Stay safe Sir! We're Praying for Israel...
In a true shit show defensive situation most people will just point shoot before their optic or sights even come in line with their eyes... absolutely true, trying get that perfect shot in a defensive or combative scenario will get you killed...
I enjoyed this series it's awesome to see the cold hard facts, thanks Frogman
I don't know how I found your channel, but I'm glad I did
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Great video. Thanks for your service!!!!!!
99.999% on ALL this info! The -.001% is the way you wear your watch!! :) Great Videos!!
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Your videos are always worth the watch. SO many great points, concepts and very simple, presented in an easy to understand way. Thanks!
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Excellent Jason!
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Great stuff glad this has been addressed and folks start rethinking and adjusting their mindset and training. Keep grinding my friend. Retired US Navy
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I called the reverse Mozambique drill, “ The Ding a Ding Dong My Dang A Long Ling Long Drill.” Just made me think of the opening to Ministry’s - Jesus Built My Hotrod!
Excellent video & points well taken.
Just like my formal training. Practicality. And not failing for perfection. Thanks
Best infovid I've seen. "Real" world talk and results. Finally some one shoots it straight. No magic internet b.s. Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
As a fellow lefty, I have been watching your videos closely on how you manipulate an right handed focus handgun and it really helped. As I'm looking to purchase a glock clone( PSA dagger). It has also helped me manipulate the M9( I still struggle sometimes lol)we use to qual. But I have also gained alot of knowledge when it comes to shooting
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The no BS channel. I like it
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Combative shooting to me has always been in the high 8/tombstone in the size of a fist. While there is a time and place for 3x5 lights out shot a disciplined shooter should know how to throttle between them and use the appropriate tool for the task at hand. Not only great content in all your videos, but an overall mindset of your teaching is much appreciated.
Thank you for the real world application of knowledge of combat shooting
You’re welcome. There are a few more in the Red Dot series.
You could have just @ me bro 🤣
Good video. Subscribed.
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I just move to the Red Dot world, age is becoming a visual enemy so I needed some upgrades.
It's very rare that at 50 yards you can still claim self-defense and you'll have a hard time proving that in court also so you might want to reconsider that unless obviously your life's being threatened
Great instructional video.
Great video segment!!! Whatever one chooses for zero, knowing your offsets at distances is important. Any hit on your attacker is a good hit!!!
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Thank you for real world vs wannabes! To simplify, egos as someone stated below.
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great content. thanks!
Frogman..u sir are a complete badass and thank you so much for your service. There’s no better advice than real world interactions and you certainly have participated in many. I love this mindset and it’s absolutely necessary during a life or death situation. Thank you so much for teaching this..definitely a huge fan brother. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video Jason!!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
I bow hunt and gun hunt. This really is not much different. You want your shots in the kill zone the same as a 9 inch plate. Doesn’t matter if it’s up down left right, as long as in the plate. It’s not 3d target point shooting. It’s killing the animal and putting food on the table or getting home safe by hitting the plate. Great info. Killed many deer with a shot in plate that wasn’t a marksman shot, but no one told the deers vitals. Great info Frogman. Learning a ton from you. Mindset also
Glad I came across your channel. I love the scientific approach you have then show how it applies to real life.
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Thank you for sharing
Great advice!
Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Thank you for taking the time...
learning more and more from your videos. thank you and keep the great content coming
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Thank you, Jason! Excellent video and I greatly appreciate your time and knowledge! 🇺🇸⚓️
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Good stuff brother!
How many times can I give a thumbs up!!!! Excellent!!!
Man, I’m a YEAR late watching this vid. And FWIW: We ALL ‘KNOW’..what were trying to accomplish WHEN WE’RE in the mode of “trying to stop the assault, or the STOP the perp. These ‘rules’ that they bounce around..throw around as verbage is UTTERLY ridiculous. Hmm, you’d AL-MOST THINK that it was a lawyer writing this crap up. Yeah, couldn’t help the sarcasm..just seems warranted. Great vid..
Love your videos and the content!! Thanks Brother keep the real-world practical content coming!!!
Much appreciated my friend 🙏
Thanks for sharing this video. I spent a lot of ammo trying to place that perfect shot when I go training. Thinking I was doing something wrong.
You definitely want to be able to ensure your sight/optic is dialed in which requires impeccably fundamentals or a stationary support system.
Thank you sir for these videos. I've saved them all.
Good stuff
Have you checked out the USCCA curriculum yet? They talk about a similar thing. They do not have degrees of accuracy and it’s not about having tight shot groupings. It’s more like a pass/fail, with an 8 inch box in high center chest and an 8 inch box in the pelvic girdle. Anything inside the box is considered effective, anything outside the box is considered ineffective.
That’s how it should be.
@@frogmantactical ...yeah with USCCA, having a super tight grouping is just as bad as having shots all over the place... they say if your groups are super tight then you are going way too slow and you need to speed up.
I really enjoyed this particular video. Your information is objective and informative.
I watch Paul Harrel for the same reasons.
Now I have another resource to learn from. Thank You.
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Thank you brother, very much appreciate the info!
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Great info as always!
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Another super video. Kudos, sir.
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In my state we shoot upper thoracic for ccw, obviously there are always cases were the only shot you have is a foot or arm or whatever but we teach upper chest all day.
Thank you for dropping knowledge
Great resource. I would definitely like to see the poi shift for the different zeros at 50, 75 and 100 yds.
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Why? Just use a rifle for those distances. Don't have a rifle? Go get one.
That's a nice looking range. I don't see a single hole in the dividing walls like at my range :)
Id like to see it. I’m still playing with a RDS on my EDc but not super comfortable enough to carry it yet. I don’t have enough time behind the Rds
I 100% agree with all thats stated! I don’t care if I’m shot n pinky toe it’s slowing me down, without a doubt. A hit is a hit.. Clint Smith teaches chest and pelvic girdle
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Great information really appreciate your time and effort great insight Thank you
I go with the 25yrd zero since I live in the country with more open space. More accuracy is needed at 25yrd. And anything under, the offset is almost non existent in my experience on the range.
Good reason. 🙏
Ex GM1 here. Great videos! Here's my question. On my 16 inch barrel .556 AR with 1 x 6 lpo w/daylight bright red dot, where do I zero the red dot? I currently have it zeroed at 75 yds what should take me out to maybe 150 yds before she drops much. For close combat I figure I'm about 2" low. Should I zero for close-quarters or aim a bit high close for that 75 - 150 yd sweet spot?
By the way, not my primary indoor home defence weapon.
Thank you.
Watch this video.
At the end of the day you can zero 25-300 and hit a target easy inside that yardage. Don’t worry about 2”3” low or high. That’s nonsense. 2” above or below the heart is a show stopper, end of story. 🙏
It's damn sure helping me & I thank you.
I use my pistol & dot set up more for hunting applications on the Ranch but I do carry & if put in a Self Defense situation?
This helps, I'm throwing rounds to the chest, I don't care where the rounds hit, as long as the threat goes down & myself, family or friends don't.
I don't care about punching out a 1/2" inch dot at 25y. I'll try though, lol
So a 25 yard zero is best for defensive shooting ?
Do a 50 to 100 shot with a red dot
So over correcting on the dial for the zero? After 2 shots then dial it up and go with it? Not sure what you meant exactly. I had way too much pre work out 5 years ago lol.
What about Lasers?
I suppose a threat at 50 yards out (with a rifle) would pose an imminent threat. If that weapon were now a handgun, would you be facing an imminent threat? I'm not sure about that.
What hearing protection is he wearing?
My only thoughts about any real world use of MOA groups is for developing your aiming skills, and to possibly aid in intended target strikes. I can't recall what law enforcement terms a fired bullet that hits a non-threat individual. But in a high stress environment like Jason spent a good deal of his life, there will sometimes be collateral damage, but with the people SEALs are dealing with, those would usually be bonus hits.
What ear pro are you using? I’ve run electronic Peltors for years but thinking about switching to something like that for pistol. Recently took a 14hr defensive pistol class and those over the ear muffs started to suck after a while.
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I paint a red dot on my butt plate and put the butt plate on the center mass.
What shirt brand is that
Jason, what is your holster?
Black Arc Holsters for CCW. Safariland for external.
I think the co witness muscle memory is obvious!
Any one if those is a dead bad guy.
They all look good to me. I'm a co-witness kinda shooter on mine.
Pre workout is absolutely horrible for people...especially older folks. If you need pre workout, there is a problem. It might be time to get your hormones adjusted with TRT. Your body is your temple?
Someone please tell me where I can get the target with silhouettes number 1-4 on it . Thank you
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Kill, Kill, Kill....waiting!!! BRING IT.
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There’s no rules to street fighting so I would believe there’s no rules to where you put your bullets