If a tier one guy is out because they’re medically retired, you know they’ve done a few things and are serious business. Words cannot describe how thankful I am for guys like these, thank you.
Yup , met a 100 % disabled vet, you couldn't tell by looking at him, but he was one of a few survivors of a huge ied blast that had hit his humvee. Totally destroyed his back and mind.
Just got done watching DJ’s interview with Shawn Ryan. Wow unbelievable. To lay everything out on the table & be 100% open and honest and put it out there for everyone to see/judge takes huge balls. Thanks guys!
Cole stands there like the office supervisor trying to get his team back to work when lunch was over five minutes ago and everyone's still standing there smoking and joking... love it!
As a trooper I was trained in the Pete Soulis technique. Instinctive point shooting at close range (10 yards, or less) using no sights. It works, and it’s fast. I enjoyed this video. I couldn’t have more respect for you guys than I do. Watching part 2 now.
Local cop here, former amateur IPSC shooter. I’m the same. Point shooting is my go to for short range also. I can point at things naturally, so it’s completely instinctive for me.
I'm former Army MP. Retired Civilian LEO, Training Officer. Damn good conversation about real world shit. Almost 40 years of carrying a gun in my profession and still learning. Thank you all for your service and expertise.
Think about the capability in that room as well. Kit these three out with gear and weapons and put them on a target and it’s target secure in minutes. The average person has no idea the skill level of these three men. I personally served with Mike and I know where DJ has been and these guys are the tip of the spear.
Pick the gun that fits you, is reliable, and do not listen to all the people pushing a specific gun. Most people pushing a specific gun have a financial reason to do so.
you are 100% correct this past summer I chose a conceal carry gun. laid 3 out and I chose one by feel from my wheelchair. due to being a functional quad, weight played a big part in what I chose. I was looking for a semi auto to compliment my EDC 38 snub
I am 5’6” with pretty small hands about 7 inches from the base of my palm to the end of my middle finger.. idk if you know anything about this but what handgun do you think would work good for me. I’d like to be able to conceal carry it and keep in mind that I’m a very thin body type
There are times when you realize that information is being passed that deserves your undivided attention. This is one of those times. I usually blow by the 'hardware' videos because I'm looking for software. Thank you for sharing, I'm awestruck by the what I gained and I'm going to the range to apply what I learned.
THANK YOU! I've had this argument SO MANY times. When you're compromised in a real world situation, you're gonna have to sometimes resort to instinctive aiming patterns. You're not going to have time or always remember to front sight your targets. Sometimes you gotta get shots off down range ASAP. However, there are SEVERAL outer factors that apply when in an actual gunfight. And they can be terrifying.
As an Deputy in Albuquerque NM who has experienced a “reactive shoot”, without using my sights; You are speaking truth. I cannot express the importance of the thousands of rounds down range and training.
It kills me how most defensive firearms trainers constantly stress acquiring the sights/sight picture/etc. True, close range, defensive shooting (pretty much all non-military defensive shooting is close range) is point and shoot. Sights are not used. Anyone who has ever been in such a shooting will back this up. Practice for defensive shooting should be at least 80% rapid point-shoot done without sights.
@@johnshaft5613 What's confusing is that most "experts" and that includes many Ex SF guys, not to name names...still stress front sight focus NO MATTER WHAT..... yet even training from the 1940s never mention that for close range pistol combat .
@Waya Wolf shooting sports First of all, it was on-the-job training and didn't cost me a penny. Secondly, effective training costs the same as ineffective training. It would be less a waste of money than practicing aimed/sighted shooting which (alone) will not adequately prepare you for a self-defense situation. No one wants to believe this, but you will not use your sights. You won't. Not at least in 99% of defensive shooting using a handgun. You will point the gun and dump lead at the target as rapidly as possible.
This is great for new shooters. As a trainer, I find that most people have no knowledge of their trigger reset. When I go through it with new to seasoned shooters it makes them better in just a few minutes.
Took a fieldcraft pistol class (Mike was not an instructor of this course but his company, his instructors, and his curriculum) I really liked the instructors explanation and real world implementation of this type of reactive and instinctive shooting. I learned a lot from them and it’s still something I practice all the time using them drills they demo’d and showed us. The lead instructor of the course was a former leo with a lot of experience especially with pistols so for this course he was a great teacher he had the real world defensive knowledge behind the tactics and drills he was teaching. It wasn’t a competition prep class about how to do the fastest bill drill it was a no bs defensive pistol class and it was spot on imo. Same with the gbrs group guys. So many people think you’re nuts for taking sights off a pistol, but you can be very accurate with a pistol just based off of instinctive/reactive or “hard target focused” shooting methods. If your grip is solid and your stance is set you can punch a zones at distance without sights and do it very repeatable it just takes practice reps. Something that was actually brought up in the fieldcraft class was a uspsa shooter (forgot his name) who’s instructor removed their sights until they achieved the rank of either master or grand master so yeah it’s absolutely possible and I tend to agree with them it’s about training for reality, you likely won’t have the time or maybe even the ability to get that good sight picture, both hands and a firm grip on your pistol, in the time needed to take that life saving shot.
@@teacherrobin3192 yeah it’s good to have that confidence in your pistol shooting. If you train grip and have a good stance that bullets going where you point the pistol regardless if the optics dead, lens is cracked, irons are busted etc
This guy nailed what it’s like to shoot “something” … it’s literally a reaction and all the years of your life with hand and eye coordination. Like a pitcher catching a ball hit back to him at 100+ mph while completely off guard and off balance. It’s just instinct and knowledge of exactly the circumstances at hand.
I love how Mike asks questions and still wants to learn even though the guy is retired special forces. He doesnt have that arrogant ego like alot of guys do. Humble and professional, hard to find guys like that anymore.
Yep, but not to nit pick he was Tier 2 and these guys are Tier 1, while the tier 2 guys are awesome and professional in their own rights for the missions they were given the tier 1 guys are literally the next level that have super honed their skills and techniques on a deeper level, tier 2 teams tend to rotate their operators faster so they aren’t getting the amount of time with the same guys/team for years upon years potentially on end, it’s one of the more common complaints I hear from the tier 2 guys, I think also the tier 1 guys have a smaller number of mission sets compared to tier 2 having let’s say 15 potential areas to practice for while tier 1 it might be 5 or 7 so they can spend more time on each individual mission set, as well as have bigger budgets to be the first to get the cool new toys and become proficient and develop TTP’s for their uses, like Dev Gru for instance if I’m not mistaken they are allocated and use more ammo in training per year then the entire Marine Corp combined, Delta or CAG or the Unit whatever you want to call them is on par with that as well, they can spend 8-10 hours in a pit practicing the same drill over and over and over with 1,000’s of rounds of ammo, they don’t just practice till they get it right, they practice until they can’t get it wrong.
I spent 20 years as a news videographer and had a variety of cameras on the shoulder…from anything of way too light to way too heavy. I had one favorite that was well balanced and weighed enough to be stable against wind and also “gyroscopically” stable to where it felt like I the camera was part of me and I wasn’t fighting it one way or the other… There is def something to be said for the feel of a tool that meets an deeper set of expectations and understanding that make you feel truly comfortable.
Knowing these guys are willing to pass their knowledge on is amazing. I had the opportunity to support the Seals on Kodiak with some comms stuff, couldn't have met nicer guys. Thank you for what you do.
Finally, trainers are telling it like it is in the real world of close up gunfights. My shooting was one second from start to finish on the footage. I never saw my sights and I always trained to use my sights prior to that in my USMC training, LE training and all my competition shooting. I did get all my hits though using this exact technique without even knowing it. I have also yet to talk to another person in a gunfight inside 10 yards who did see their sights. Thank you for doing this. Mike, I remember when you came by our Academy to work with us trainers and you immediately picked me and the other guy out as the ones who had been in shootings.
Perhaps all that training with your sights allowed you to develop a solid index so you could point the gun where you want it in the moment. Kinda like Jeff Cooper’s saying the body aims the gun and the sights verify. Scotty Reitz from LAPD was in 5 shootings and I believe he saw his sights in each one.
@@joeschmo5403 Your body aligns your point of aim,your eyes do see the sights but adrenaline warps time perception and you don't hyper focus/remember it.
@@bobv2930 I trained with Jim Cirillo (look him up if you don't know who he was) a couple of times and he was in 19 gunfights as part of the NYPD stakeout squad in the late 1960's. If I recall correctly, Jim stated that he saw his sights in every shootout, but the difference was that Jim was a bullseye shooter as well as a handgun hunter and as part of stakeout, the good guys had an edge in surprising the bad guys... I learned a lot of Jim, and I had already had 20 years shooting handguns at that point and 10 years shooting IPSC/USPSA. For me, there is a transition point of "instinctive/point shooting' from about 15 yards and in and sights further out unless a VERY precise shot needs to be taken. One of the things that Jim had people do was to tape over their sights and surprisingly, many shooters shot BETTER using the handgun profile or instinctive/point shooting vs their use of sights. The reason for this is that most people don't understand a couple of things. The concept of a wobble zone (comes from a bullseye or archery background) shows that for most people, they will NEVER be able to hold rock steady, so as soon as that magical 'PERFECT" NRA diagramed out sight picture DOES happen (for a fraction of an instant), they yank the trigger to get the shot off. Their trigger control goes to shit because they know that they only have .005 secs to break it before they no longer have the NRA poster child of perfect sight alignment. With no sights to make people anticipate such a short window of opportunity to be "perfect", their trigger control was much better and fewer yanked on the trigger. Just something to think about... OH, and practice! When I was competing, I was shooting 4-500 rds during the week in practice plus 120-200 in a match. Now, that's almost impossible to do, but dry fire is still a good means to get trigger time in when you can't afford or can't find ammo or can't find components for reloading...
I'm a small guy, I edc a p365x. I have a mag guts kit on my mags, increasing the capacity by 2. So I carry 14+1, in an incredibly dependable, extremely comfortable, and crazy accurate micro compact...it feels like it's an extension of my hand, it fits so perfectly. The confidence I have carrying this pistol is astronomical...
They have tactical skills, but Vikings were hand to hand, and very strong.. MMA fighter would be closer to a viking. For your usage of "literal," it's far off. Maybe moreso modern day samurai.
@@replynotificationsdisabled you do know that Vikings mainly fought isolated villages, right? what's with your bootlicking of what was essentially the ancient/worse version of Taliban? religious extremist, blood thirsty, druggys, who raided civilians for money and slaves
I’m not telling my wife that Mike gave me blue balls. I feel like that conversation could have gone on for hours and I would still be asking for more. The way that Mike talks and explains himself has really resonated with me and DJ and Cole have that same quality. No bullshit. Just clear and to the point.
Never was a fan of glock. It’s why I carry an M&P M2.0 compact. The ergonomics are freaking perfect, which makes the recoil nonexistent, and the gun looks great too.
Helped a girlfriend buy her first gun, we shot all the regular full-size guns, from Glocks to Sigs, H&K, Beretta; I was really surprised when her favorite and the best fit for her hands/grip was the M&P M2.0. I'm a Sig guy myself, but it definitely felt good shooting the M&P. Granted I may have also steered her away from Glocks because of my innate dislike for them...
I guess you’ve never used a USP. Change your life. Maybe. If you’re into being a snob like me. I also own an E46. So, being an elitist is in my blood, apparently. But, USPs changed my life.
I have discussed this but I have never taught it this way...it definitely happens and have never been able to communicate it like y’all have. Thank y’all, you have saved more lives than you can ever know.
First time DJ’s face isn’t digitized; if you can’t be open to learning from guys who’ve been there and done that, you have bigger problems; the skills discussed are not for beginners, like Cole said, but methods that have been vetted..always a student; grateful for men like this, willing to pay forward from their experiences
It’s mind blowing at the amount of detail they put in all this information. It just shows how good those tier one guys are, and their putting all of this out for free. Shoutout to these three badasses.🤙🏽
Ive shot with Mike a couple times now over a few years and he is one of if not the best out there. I have a lot of respect for him because he puts himself out there and is open to any criticism that comes his way. He is also a pretty humble guy given that he was a tier 1 operator and GRS contractor with many gunfights under his belt. The GBRS guys are solid in their profession as well and it goes without saying that whomever is fortunate enough to train and learn from these guys will be taking leaps in competency if they pay attention.
Man!! These new soldiers now a days are SO LUCKY to be able to listen to these guys any day, time of the week!!!! That trigger finger detail is so good. This is high level teaching. Straight from the University of spec ops professor! Lol Big Army training NCO's should watch these videos for certifications. This shit is fkn gold!!!
As a "Sig Guy" I often found myself having keep quiet around the glock guys. Get's in the way of training some conversations. Definitely good to hear both sides of the elite perspective in this platform.
90% of good shooting is the trigger ....light pull, quick reset....9.9% is low recoil...the goal of killing the bad guy is dumping high numbers as quick as posible...first to hit is the one going home...
Mike is the epitome of a good Green Beret...humble and ALWAYS willing to learn! Stay Alert Stay Alive! Awesome video but again, someone tell DJ to take the hat off and show off the inherited hairline of glory. lol
@@bunzinod1964 Mike mentions it all the time, have you never heard him say "CAG" or "The Unit"... that's what he's talking about. D-Boys dont say Delta.
@@bunzinod1964 Mike *was* Delta but ran into a little trouble and left. He's pretty vocal about his past if you watch other podcasts, like Mike Ritland's or Andy Stumpf's. Great stuff.
Mike is very knowledgeable. Well spoken. And a good person. I was very fortunate to attend two fieldcraft classes. Peoria and LV. Good people. Thank you
3 legends man. I aspire to be like these men, can't wait to start my journey starting with basic and selection later this year. Shout out to fng academy helping get us ready! Keep up the content Mike, love this stuff
Great job. Love to hear professionals like you three talk about this. My father, the greatest shooter i ever met, stressed point shooting constantly to us. He fought on some of the ugliest islands in the pacific in WWII and I can still hear the words, son there may come a day you will not have time to aim. That was 50 years ago. Can’t wait for more videos like this.
It's an interesting concept. It's like a golf swing. The key is consistent mechanics so that you don't have to think. It become purely mechanical. That split second you have to think about your optic or sight is a spit second too long, but if you have the same mechanical presentation that you've made 1,000 times, you will hit what your body is aiming at.
I’m about 10 mins in, and I can tell you from my experience these guys not just pushing sig, I’m a Glock fanboy and I picked up a 365xl and it was like it was made just for my hand! It was crazy, needless to say I shot it so well I picked up the 365 coyote tan one, and I carry it now over my G19 that I have $2000 in and I have never put a $ in my 365 beside holster, mags, and ammo, I say all that to say, they are being truthful sig has it figured out with there grips you can close your eyes after enough practice draw open your eyes and blaster is lined up perfectly! I’m looking to get the all steel frame p320 next! Trust me guys I never thought I would say any of this! People that know me, went and got the 365 there self because they know I only carry and run glocks, so they knew it had to be a stellar gun, and the sights that come with the gun just like the trijicon HDXR I buy for my Glocks
Man Mike wasn't kidding when he spoke about almost having to use his low capacity EDC in a not so ideal situation. I been in that same boat during a road rage incident and couldn't agree more. After my experience I switched my PPS to a 365, but now appendix a FS Beretta APX or Beretta PX4C Storm. Rather have it and not need it then need it then not have it, not to mention there are many added benefits if your willing to pack a little more weight but that's another discussion.
365 is not high capacity its ten rounds get a compact or full size i used to carry a 365 i carry a 19 now and its upgraded i dont have the shit trigger
As a retired cop/detective I found that I too initially and instinctively shot Glocks a bit high. Once I found to roll my support thumbs forward( parallel), that dropped the muzzle naturally! From there it was all presentation and practice! Good stuff fellas!
The amount of diverse knowledge and experience in this room is outstanding and the willingness to continue learning no matter the experience you have is inspiring. Great work guys
I appreciate you guys for all you do.. specifically for addressing the real world in action “instinctive” shooting. The fear, the pressure, the feeling when you have to send rounds down range at an enemy. Thanks again.
Dude freak yeah, I dig all the points in this video. Started ccw with all kinds of small guns. After 8 years of it I now rock a g34 with an rmr and tlr1 in an armadillo lux holster. I’m not a big guy either. 180lbs and 510. I’ve found a difference between comfortable and comforting. I choose comforting now.
30 sum odd years ago, there were a few proponents of "instinctive" shooting. If you align yourself properly it is very doable. I for one am glad that top recent top tier guys are discussing this. Always be open to learning something new, things are continuously evolving, that is the one constant.
As a SWAT Operator of 12 years I don't think it matters much which hardware you carry. Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, etc... it's all about shot placement. However, these guys bring a skill set to the table that makes experienced Operators like myself look like chumps. And I'm good. God bless our soldiers.
Damn... just listening to these guys makes me feel like I never learned anything in my 10 years AF. It's amazing to just to understand the enormity of situational dynamics that goes into their level of training. I'm in AWE...!
It's awesome to see the community put a blitz of content out there for DJ and Cole. (Shawn Ryan's interview and now Fieldcraft Survival putting him in the spotlight).
I love mike, discovered him on vigilance elite. Was impressed too when he himself then interviewed that Apache helicopter pilot. Then just the other day was the interview on VE with Shipley. And now here he is, in his own element. Just amazing.
This is one of the most enjoyable/educational (2 part) videos I've watched in a while. Just saying "thank you" sounds so lame here. The amount of knowledge in that room has got to be mind-blowing, and the fact that y'all are sharing some of it with us FOR FREE is just...incredible. That said, it would be incredible if you could do a video (or maybe even a dedicated series...?) with recent GWOT "Tier 1" guys like DJ and Cole here, meeting and cross-pollinating (for lack of a better word) with older Legends from a different era like Pat McNamara, who still keeps the edge sharp and ready for any situation. Again...you guys do an incredible job, and please keep it up - it's very much appreciated and used.
These videos are absolutely invaluable to the people who are dedicated to learning without much formal training. People give me shit when I mention that I practice reloading from slide lock to dummy round/target acquisition just because, and I always reply "I bet I'm faster"....
Great video! It's amazing how many people can stand in the outfield and, upon seeing and hearing how the ball comes off the bat, turn and run to a certain spot and stick out their glove to let the ball drop into it, but they think it's some kind of voodoo to point a pistol at somebody's chest six feet away and get a hit without first acquiring a perfect sight picture with those little things on top of the slide.
I don’t understand why people don’t agree with “instinctive” shooting. We throw a ball or shoot a basket without “aiming”, most of the time there is no sights with traditional archery. We drive and keep a moving vehicle between lines. We throw knives and tomahawks. There are numerous examples of how we as humans will put something exactly were we need it without sights. It’s repetition and practice and “muscle memory” to become proficient at all of these tasks. Shooting is the same.
The problem you find these days is people don’t want to do the work. If you have bad instincts your instinctive shooting is going to be bad. People need to MASTER the fundamentals well before they start instinctive shooting.
Because a arrow or a ball won't go through several layers of sheetrock and cement board, into your children's rooms or your neighbor's house. Most trainers do not advise the average shooter to do instinctive point shooting because the average shooter doesn't have the hours and round count to have developed the "correct" instinct.
@@adamc2378 exactly. These people get on these videos and watch guys that have tens of thousands of hours behind these weapons systems and think their once a month flat range trip will equate to mastering point shooting.
Bought my first S&W M&P 2.0 Compact over a year ago. Its my first firearm I ever owned and off topic...my family never were fond of guns but I was gravitated towards it for self defense applications and it is really fun shooting at the range. It is perfect and I love the rough texture on the grip plus I conceal carry everyday no problem.
Gabriel Ortiz I almost got one of those; Tried one at the range and she was accurate; Felt pretty good though It felt a little snappy vs. the SIG 365XL that I also tried; I was sold on the SIG 😉
I have to say that the GBRS guys have some of the most simplistic but informative videos I've ever seen. The way they explain everything just makes sense.
Glock goes Bang everytime you pull the trigger! But, I will admit, that you do need to upgrade the sights. Not taking away too much from Sig Sauer, formerly Swiss Arms. But good tips from the guests.
Just to let you know if you didn’t most guns nowadays work very well and go bang. There are some that are less reliable, but for the most part, most of the guns manufactured today have the same amount of problems as Glock which is to say very little
Just an outstanding episode. Looking forward to part 2. Just saw DJ on Sean Ryans podcast last week. Great dude and patriot. Cole great dude too. I love GBRS videos awesome content. Thanks guys.
I am just extremely appreciative of all of you taking the time with explaining this. I want to become more proficient with my fire arms. In a deteriorating world I’m the I’m the only line of defense that I can control to protect my family
Amazing to have the opportunity to learn from not only America's best but the best on the planet! - - - How fortunate are we to be able to have access to this information from these guys.
The backplate shooting just blew mind. My first pistol was an old H&R sidekick missing it's rear sight so I got used to instinctive shooting as a kid. I'd go hunt bullfrogs with it. Definitely adding backplate shooting to my training
Kick a$$ seabass!! This is good stuff. Would like to a see a special maybe "Part 3" for the Fieldcraft subscribers. Basics are where we start for a reason and when we deviate from that, all the mistakes bring you right back to the basics.
We have issue, full size 320's at work. The modularity is great. For $50 I swapped the standard grip for the X Series Carry Large and it instantly felt better in hand. BUT the older Sig mags that say SIG SAUER straight across the bottom of the mag, don't fit in the mag well. Only the newer mags that say SIG inside of a circle fit and I would guess that that would be standard for most if not all of the non-stock grip modules. Absolutely the best shooting stock pistol out of the box and even better when you get the grip module that you like.
I have the p320 m18 and I did the same swap except I went with the medium x-carry and dropped in the sig flat face trigger and man oh man does it feel right. Love that thing. Would like to pick up an x-compact at some point. The x series grip modules are definitely the most comfortable pistols I have held
I loved the comments about instinctive shooting and those interviewed after a shooting said they never looked at their sights. (Paraphrasing here). Count me as another example. The only time I had to fire my weapon as a LEO of 25 years, I had the same experience. My focus was so laser tight on what I had to shoot, I got a solid double tap. I never looked at the sights on my gun. Maybe I was lucky or maybe I was well trained. I don't know, but I hit what I needed to hit. I ended the threat.
Saw DJ on Shawn Ryans show. What a Chad. All of you. Big muscley SOCOM Chads everywhere. Love it… I’m invested in Glock via mags and familiarity. I don’t mind the trigger - i know right where that break is. A buddy has sigs and swears by them... God bless guys, thank you so much for your service and continued education 🇺🇸
Absolutely the best training film made. I have been through the Navy and the Fl certification firearms course and never have I had such a good training course. Thanks fellows.
I'm not typically a glock guy in the past, but I've fallen in love with my glock 19 gen 5, and glock 40 mos. My wife has the p365, and the p320x carry.
Excellent knowledge. I’ve heard from special forces guys that in real CQB gunfights you tend to shoot pretty low, because instinctively you’re trying to keep as much of the threat / target in your field of vision as possible and so your gun just goes down and down to the point you’re rounds are going into the guys belly button or lower
Maybe I’m regarded physically but I’ve always felt that Glocks point more naturally to me than 320s. Flat range larping aside, it’s all about the ergos and body mechanics.
ya. at this point im stuck with glock. Its like an extension of my body and everything else just feels off. and if im in a gun fight, i have 0 time for feeling off.
@@paulbarclay4114 I agree generally, though I think some people are just going to shoot one or then other better period. My first pistol was an FN FNX9. Super comfortable ergonomics, not a great carry pistol but wasn’t an option for me at the time anyway. 2,500ish rounds and a decent amount of instruction, etc etc., I could never shoot it as well as I wanted. Always thought it was me, I need more training, etc. I blind purchased a glock 17 around that time. Literally from round one, I shot so much better I couldn’t believe it. It wasn’t just grip angle I mean, it’s a lot of things obviously; trigger, purchase, bore axis, recoil management of the softer polymer probably, etc. Obviously I was not an experienced shooter at the time anyway, but I’m talking the difference between literally one day I shoot the FN, even taking my time I’m in the C box constantly, to the next day my first 15 through the glock are all in the A, and I’m shooting way faster on top of that. That was years ago and I have several pistols I shoot well with and pretty consistently across the board, but I still shoot better and more naturally with glocks
I truly like my Glock, I CC.45. to many it's too big. I'm a small person but it's very comfortable in my hands. I like everything about it. I've owned smaller firearms, I've had a Walter .380 and absolutely hated it in every way.
@@lisaclark6977 that’s what counts - if it feels natural in your hands, go with it. Glock and Sig are both good to go reliability-wise. That’s what counts.
I own the P320 X carry as well I thought I was the only one lol such a good gun basically it's the M18 with a vertical trigger and when it comes to Sig I love Sig and as much as I like the 365xl I chose the Glock 43x instead because I'm getting 15 rounds and I like my Glocks just as much as I like my Sig Sauer
X5 legion is definitely nice but the AXG (AXG pro with the x series trigger) ergonomics imo is even more on point although it's slightly lighter... Both r amazing and top of the line. Can't wait to try the new 226 pro that just came out this year too
If you watch GBSR videos from a few years ago they carried Glocks. If you watch Sean Ryan videos from a few years ago he carried Glocks, Sean even did an EDC pocket dump video where it was him and a few other retired special ops guys and they all carried Glocks. I have nothing but respect for these men. I love their videos. I thank them for making them. I’m an LEO and I carry a Glock on duty and off.
I have been an AR guy for almost a decade, never owned a handgun. I bought an X5 legion a few months back because of how DJ talks about it. He did not lead me wrong at all. What a fantastic firearm.
Awesome conversation here. I loved that he said it is scary. That is a grown as man who has seen multiple gunfights saying it is freaking scary to be in that situation.
Mike, I really appreciate the videos you put out and the training you provide. As someone who lives in southern California, it definitely makes training hard when everything is more expensive, gun laws are shitty, and its hard to find places where you can actually do real world training. Its great that we can still learn fundamentals and basics through you, and I hope to learn from you in person some day. keep up the awesome work and the videos and knowledge coming man
Guns are like ice cream - some like chocolate, some like vanilla. I've been a Sig fan since the '90s. I've put thousands of rounds through both the P320 Compact and Glock 19. If I had to choose one to fight with, it would be the G19. I'm not a Glock nut since presently I carry a P365XL. But between those two makes and models the G19 is supreme (IMO). Not to mention the track record of reliability and dependability demonstrated through two plus decades use in law enforcement. No other gun has as much real world testing as Glock. Maybe in 20 years the P320 will prove its salt...but that will take time.
I am a retired Federal Agent. By far no tactical expert but I felt early on in my career that if anyone had to pop off in the execution of a warrant or enforcement activity, the shot(s) will be instinctive and front site or red dot will not be a factor. Great podcast Mike! Thank you!
It happens. At warrior leader course a "spy" was put in our squad and when he shot one of our people I absolutely drew and fired without looking. I winged him in the arm (simunition) but i always regretted not acquiring my sights for a better shot. I just need to train more.
GBRS group is just great. I hope they increase their RUclips posts. I do find it funny though that DJ just did his conceal carry video and he runs a glock 19 with red dot.
Agree. Seemed a bit like a plug for Sig…which is fine. Find a gun that fits your hand and you shoot well and then train. Forget about the name on the side of the slide.
The weird audio effect you're getting is from having multiple mics hearing the same thing from different distances, hence with different time delay. If you mix them so you're only hearing one at a time it'll fix this.
I dont see myself ever switching my main pistol from a glock 17. Perhaps for a p226 but I just cant see switching to a p320. To each their own though 👍
Going from striker fired to sa/da is a huge difference. My first and only pistol so far is an Sp2022. B/c of the action it is really hard to prep the trigger with the hammer down. That’s why GRBS was saying they started cocked.
I've seen several people use 320s in classes and I'm not impressed. The trigger is good but other than that I don't see the appeal. The Glocks are pretty easy to deal with and maintain.....they just work.
@@bmphil3400 the appeal is better trigger,modularity, and grip angle. There’s good reason to swap for potentially have a bunch of different combinations of it. Tbh i had a p320c loved how it felt didn’t work for me past that. I’d take my p226 any day of the week over 90 percent of other handguns the 10 percent being a 92fs variant. The p320 just works to
@@bmphil3400 the appeal is better trigger,modularity, and grip angle. There’s good reason to swap for potentially have a bunch of different combinations of it. Tbh i had a p320c loved how it felt didn’t work for me past that. I’d take my p226 any day of the week over 90 percent of other handguns the 10 percent being a 92fs variant. The p320 just works to
@@governmentcalamari9785 The grip angle is not "better." That's entirely subjective. I don't like any other grip angle than a Glock after shooting and carrying multiple models of them for well over a decade.
DJ is a absolute Monster ! Anyway 3 of this planets tier 1 elite warriors , complete soldiers and humble dudes . These are the heroes I teach my son about !
I’m super glad you guys spoke on instinctive firing. I thought I have been an odd ball the past 20+ years. Whether overseas or shooting competition I don’t ever remember seeing my front sight with a pistol. It was either the second or third shot when I finally picked it up. I always felt it was muscle memory learned from the hundreds and thousands of draws and engagements.
DJ has such a good way of explaining everything this dude embodies professionalism
and weird to see his face haha
Common sense plus experience , and the drive to teach others. We get the benefit of top tier training. Thanks guys . Respect.
DJ and bob keller are my heroes
his podcast w Shawn Ryan is absolutely amazing. highly recommend if you haven't seen/listened already. Really raw stuff
@@matth22 Shawn's podcasts are hands down the best around right now!
If a tier one guy is out because they’re medically retired, you know they’ve done a few things and are serious business. Words cannot describe how thankful I am for guys like these, thank you.
Yup , met a 100 % disabled vet, you couldn't tell by looking at him, but he was one of a few survivors of a huge ied blast that had hit his humvee. Totally destroyed his back and mind.
😅😂
The height of professionalism DJ and Cole.
Just got done watching DJ’s interview with Shawn Ryan. Wow unbelievable. To lay everything out on the table & be 100% open and honest and put it out there for everyone to see/judge takes huge balls. Thanks guys!
I also just got done watching the interview. 4 hours went by like nothing
My god yes, that was some heavy shit. Such a fucking legend
That interview was 🔥🔥🔥. DJ kept it 💯
I watched all 4 hours of it. Shawn Ryan let's people talk. Heroes!!
All that sacrifice for the Zionist entity.
Cole stands there like the office supervisor trying to get his team back to work when lunch was over five minutes ago and everyone's still standing there smoking and joking... love it!
Hahahaha that is a perfect explanation
😂😂😂
As a trooper I was trained in the Pete Soulis technique. Instinctive point shooting at close range (10 yards, or less) using no sights. It works, and it’s fast. I enjoyed this video. I couldn’t have more respect for you guys than I do. Watching part 2 now.
Local cop here, former amateur IPSC shooter. I’m the same. Point shooting is my go to for short range also. I can point at things naturally, so it’s completely instinctive for me.
I'm former Army MP. Retired Civilian LEO, Training Officer. Damn good conversation about real world shit. Almost 40 years of carrying a gun in my profession and still learning. Thank you all for your service and expertise.
Thank you for your service brother
I agree, but this should have been done in a living room with cigars with all the damn talking.
@@m4rvinmartian They get down to business in the next video. Can't go wrong with cigars and a good bourbon or scotch though. LOL
@@timhahne3894 Haha, I'll have to check it out later.
Thank you for your service. God bless all retired LEO’s.
Mike, DJ & Cole together in one room is a priceless treasure trove of knowledge! Be a sponge ladies & gentleman!
🧽 🧠
You could also tell they didn't like each other in the beginning of the video lol
Amen Brother.
@Jay Dubb Agreed. @Bartman Disregard the troll.
Think about the capability in that room as well. Kit these three out with gear and weapons and put them on a target and it’s target secure in minutes. The average person has no idea the skill level of these three men. I personally served with Mike and I know where DJ has been and these guys are the tip of the spear.
Pick the gun that fits you, is reliable, and do not listen to all the people pushing a specific gun. Most people pushing a specific gun have a financial reason to do so.
100% correct
@@lisaclark6977 Agreed
Arguably true.
you are 100% correct this past summer I chose a conceal carry gun. laid 3 out and I chose one by feel from my wheelchair. due to being a functional quad, weight played a big part in what I chose. I was looking for a semi auto to compliment my EDC 38 snub
I am 5’6” with pretty small hands about 7 inches from the base of my palm to the end of my middle finger.. idk if you know anything about this but what handgun do you think would work good for me. I’d like to be able to conceal carry it and keep in mind that I’m a very thin body type
There are times when you realize that information is being passed that deserves your undivided attention. This is one of those times.
I usually blow by the 'hardware' videos because I'm looking for software. Thank you for sharing, I'm awestruck by the what I gained and I'm going to the range to apply what I learned.
THANK YOU! I've had this argument SO MANY times. When you're compromised in a real world situation, you're gonna have to sometimes resort to instinctive aiming patterns. You're not going to have time or always remember to front sight your targets. Sometimes you gotta get shots off down range ASAP. However, there are SEVERAL outer factors that apply when in an actual gunfight. And they can be terrifying.
As an Deputy in Albuquerque NM who has experienced a “reactive shoot”, without using my sights; You are speaking truth. I cannot express the importance of the thousands of rounds down range and training.
That’s cool to see someone from my city watching this as well. Stay safe man.
Same. It’s rough here in abq. Stay safe
It kills me how most defensive firearms trainers constantly stress acquiring the sights/sight picture/etc. True, close range, defensive shooting (pretty much all non-military defensive shooting is close range) is point and shoot. Sights are not used. Anyone who has ever been in such a shooting will back this up. Practice for defensive shooting should be at least 80% rapid point-shoot done without sights.
@@johnshaft5613 What's confusing is that most "experts" and that includes many Ex SF guys, not to name names...still stress front sight focus NO MATTER WHAT..... yet even training from the 1940s never mention that for close range pistol combat .
@Waya Wolf shooting sports First of all, it was on-the-job training and didn't cost me a penny. Secondly, effective training costs the same as ineffective training. It would be less a waste of money than practicing aimed/sighted shooting which (alone) will not adequately prepare you for a self-defense situation. No one wants to believe this, but you will not use your sights. You won't. Not at least in 99% of defensive shooting using a handgun. You will point the gun and dump lead at the target as rapidly as possible.
This is great for new shooters. As a trainer, I find that most people have no knowledge of their trigger reset. When I go through it with new to seasoned shooters it makes them better in just a few minutes.
Oftentimes scrubs shoot from the reset point. Know your trigger. Feel the wall.
Differnet philosophies there isnt the way there are mutiple ways to get solve problems with shooters depending on experience and application
@@futuremarineBRIT not scrubs many people are taught different things
@@futuremarineBRIT not scrubs many people are taught different things
Find the wall should be one of those first fundamental pieces. I love hearing people talk about trigger knowledge right off the bat. 🤙🏼
Took a fieldcraft pistol class (Mike was not an instructor of this course but his company, his instructors, and his curriculum) I really liked the instructors explanation and real world implementation of this type of reactive and instinctive shooting. I learned a lot from them and it’s still something I practice all the time using them drills they demo’d and showed us. The lead instructor of the course was a former leo with a lot of experience especially with pistols so for this course he was a great teacher he had the real world defensive knowledge behind the tactics and drills he was teaching. It wasn’t a competition prep class about how to do the fastest bill drill it was a no bs defensive pistol class and it was spot on imo. Same with the gbrs group guys. So many people think you’re nuts for taking sights off a pistol, but you can be very accurate with a pistol just based off of instinctive/reactive or “hard target focused” shooting methods. If your grip is solid and your stance is set you can punch a zones at distance without sights and do it very repeatable it just takes practice reps. Something that was actually brought up in the fieldcraft class was a uspsa shooter (forgot his name) who’s instructor removed their sights until they achieved the rank of either master or grand master so yeah it’s absolutely possible and I tend to agree with them it’s about training for reality, you likely won’t have the time or maybe even the ability to get that good sight picture, both hands and a firm grip on your pistol, in the time needed to take that life saving shot.
What did it cost you?
@@pitbull82 🤫
@@pitbull82 more like what's the price you're willing to pay to ensure you win a deadly altercation should you ever end up there?
That was a great idea ... that no sight training ....
@@teacherrobin3192 yeah it’s good to have that confidence in your pistol shooting. If you train grip and have a good stance that bullets going where you point the pistol regardless if the optics dead, lens is cracked, irons are busted etc
This guy nailed what it’s like to shoot “something” … it’s literally a reaction and all the years of your life with hand and eye coordination. Like a pitcher catching a ball hit back to him at 100+ mph while completely off guard and off balance. It’s just instinct and knowledge of exactly the circumstances at hand.
I love how Mike asks questions and still wants to learn even though the guy is retired special forces. He doesnt have that arrogant ego like alot of guys do. Humble and professional, hard to find guys like that anymore.
Yep, but not to nit pick he was Tier 2 and these guys are Tier 1, while the tier 2 guys are awesome and professional in their own rights for the missions they were given the tier 1 guys are literally the next level that have super honed their skills and techniques on a deeper level, tier 2 teams tend to rotate their operators faster so they aren’t getting the amount of time with the same guys/team for years upon years potentially on end, it’s one of the more common complaints I hear from the tier 2 guys, I think also the tier 1 guys have a smaller number of mission sets compared to tier 2 having let’s say 15 potential areas to practice for while tier 1 it might be 5 or 7 so they can spend more time on each individual mission set, as well as have bigger budgets to be the first to get the cool new toys and become proficient and develop TTP’s for their uses, like Dev Gru for instance if I’m not mistaken they are allocated and use more ammo in training per year then the entire Marine Corp combined, Delta or CAG or the Unit whatever you want to call them is on par with that as well, they can spend 8-10 hours in a pit practicing the same drill over and over and over with 1,000’s of rounds of ammo, they don’t just practice till they get it right, they practice until they can’t get it wrong.
I spent 20 years as a news videographer and had a variety of cameras on the shoulder…from anything of way too light to way too heavy. I had one favorite that was well balanced and weighed enough to be stable against wind and also “gyroscopically” stable to where it felt like I the camera was part of me and I wasn’t fighting it one way or the other…
There is def something to be said for the feel of a tool that meets an deeper set of expectations and understanding that make you feel truly comfortable.
Knowing these guys are willing to pass their knowledge on is amazing. I had the opportunity to support the Seals on Kodiak with some comms stuff, couldn't have met nicer guys. Thank you for what you do.
Finally, trainers are telling it like it is in the real world of close up gunfights. My shooting was one second from start to finish on the footage. I never saw my sights and I always trained to use my sights prior to that in my USMC training, LE training and all my competition shooting. I did get all my hits though using this exact technique without even knowing it. I have also yet to talk to another person in a gunfight inside 10 yards who did see their sights. Thank you for doing this. Mike, I remember when you came by our Academy to work with us trainers and you immediately picked me and the other guy out as the ones who had been in shootings.
Been in a few always saw my sights but i know im an outlier
Perhaps all that training with your sights allowed you to develop a solid index so you could point the gun where you want it in the moment. Kinda like Jeff Cooper’s saying the body aims the gun and the sights verify. Scotty Reitz from LAPD was in 5 shootings and I believe he saw his sights in each one.
@@bobv2930 this was exactly my guess its not like I was slowing down to look for them or anything it just happened
@@joeschmo5403 Your body aligns your point of aim,your eyes do see the sights but adrenaline warps time perception and you don't hyper focus/remember it.
@@bobv2930 I trained with Jim Cirillo (look him up if you don't know who he was) a couple of times and he was in 19 gunfights as part of the NYPD stakeout squad in the late 1960's. If I recall correctly, Jim stated that he saw his sights in every shootout, but the difference was that Jim was a bullseye shooter as well as a handgun hunter and as part of stakeout, the good guys had an edge in surprising the bad guys... I learned a lot of Jim, and I had already had 20 years shooting handguns at that point and 10 years shooting IPSC/USPSA. For me, there is a transition point of "instinctive/point shooting' from about 15 yards and in and sights further out unless a VERY precise shot needs to be taken. One of the things that Jim had people do was to tape over their sights and surprisingly, many shooters shot BETTER using the handgun profile or instinctive/point shooting vs their use of sights. The reason for this is that most people don't understand a couple of things. The concept of a wobble zone (comes from a bullseye or archery background) shows that for most people, they will NEVER be able to hold rock steady, so as soon as that magical 'PERFECT" NRA diagramed out sight picture DOES happen (for a fraction of an instant), they yank the trigger to get the shot off. Their trigger control goes to shit because they know that they only have .005 secs to break it before they no longer have the NRA poster child of perfect sight alignment. With no sights to make people anticipate such a short window of opportunity to be "perfect", their trigger control was much better and fewer yanked on the trigger. Just something to think about... OH, and practice! When I was competing, I was shooting 4-500 rds during the week in practice plus 120-200 in a match. Now, that's almost impossible to do, but dry fire is still a good means to get trigger time in when you can't afford or can't find ammo or can't find components for reloading...
Thank you guys for taking so much time to talk about this subject. Much more informative then 20 mins of watching you pull a trigger.
I'm a small guy, I edc a p365x. I have a mag guts kit on my mags, increasing the capacity by 2. So I carry 14+1, in an incredibly dependable, extremely comfortable, and crazy accurate micro compact...it feels like it's an extension of my hand, it fits so perfectly. The confidence I have carrying this pistol is astronomical...
MY BABY AS WELL, my brother loves the big duffy handguns we go back and forth all the time.
Give these dudes more of a spotlight. They are literate modern day vikings. But philosophers also. Mastering every aspect. The attention to detail
Shawn Ryan, Vigilance Elite had him on his podcast a week ago, it's spectacular.
They have tactical skills, but Vikings were hand to hand, and very strong.. MMA fighter would be closer to a viking. For your usage of "literal," it's far off. Maybe moreso modern day samurai.
@@replynotificationsdisabled you do know that Vikings mainly fought isolated villages, right? what's with your bootlicking of what was essentially the ancient/worse version of Taliban? religious extremist, blood thirsty, druggys, who raided civilians for money and slaves
Seeing this after watching DJ's episode on the Shawn Ryan show just makes this that much better.
This 100%
I’m not telling my wife that Mike gave me blue balls. I feel like that conversation could have gone on for hours and I would still be asking for more. The way that Mike talks and explains himself has really resonated with me and DJ and Cole have that same quality. No bullshit. Just clear and to the point.
Never was a fan of glock. It’s why I carry an M&P M2.0 compact. The ergonomics are freaking perfect, which makes the recoil nonexistent, and the gun looks great too.
Same. For me, the M&P has much better grip angle for natural point of aim than my G19. That said, P365x (no optic) gets most of the actual carry time.
Yeah the M&P is such a sweet platform. Now that they’re moving all to a bladed trigger and away from the hinged trigger it’s even better.
Helped a girlfriend buy her first gun, we shot all the regular full-size guns, from Glocks to Sigs, H&K, Beretta; I was really surprised when her favorite and the best fit for her hands/grip was the M&P M2.0. I'm a Sig guy myself, but it definitely felt good shooting the M&P. Granted I may have also steered her away from Glocks because of my innate dislike for them...
I guess you’ve never used a USP. Change your life. Maybe. If you’re into being a snob like me. I also own an E46. So, being an elitist is in my blood, apparently. But, USPs changed my life.
@@bradleycarrier4820 ended up choosing a USP for my first firearm, picking it up next week
I have discussed this but I have never taught it this way...it definitely happens and have never been able to communicate it like y’all have. Thank y’all, you have saved more lives than you can ever know.
First time DJ’s face isn’t digitized; if you can’t be open to learning from guys who’ve been there and done that, you have bigger problems; the skills discussed are not for beginners, like Cole said, but methods that have been vetted..always a student; grateful for men like this, willing to pay forward from their experiences
It’s mind blowing at the amount of detail they put in all this information. It just shows how good those tier one guys are, and their putting all of this out for free. Shoutout to these three badasses.🤙🏽
Okay..
@@dangerous8333 what’s your problem?
It's all old info.
There are squads that are even above tier 1...let that sink in...lol
@@clintcoop5717 nope
Ive shot with Mike a couple times now over a few years and he is one of if not the best out there. I have a lot of respect for him because he puts himself out there and is open to any criticism that comes his way. He is also a pretty humble guy given that he was a tier 1 operator and GRS contractor with many gunfights under his belt. The GBRS guys are solid in their profession as well and it goes without saying that whomever is fortunate enough to train and learn from these guys will be taking leaps in competency if they pay attention.
Holy shit. I’m a cop and I’ve never thought about back plate shooting and I’m issued a 320… DJ is a genius
Man!! These new soldiers now a days are SO LUCKY to be able to listen to these guys any day, time of the week!!!! That trigger finger detail is so good. This is high level teaching. Straight from the University of spec ops professor! Lol Big Army training NCO's should watch these videos for certifications. This shit is fkn gold!!!
Lot of experience and badassery in this room.
We can’t say the same for complete sentences in your comment. 😉
Luke B this is RUclips not NCBI. Nice emoji too.
As a "Sig Guy" I often found myself having keep quiet around the glock guys. Get's in the way of training some conversations. Definitely good to hear both sides of the elite perspective in this platform.
90% of good shooting is the trigger ....light pull, quick reset....9.9% is low recoil...the goal of killing the bad guy is dumping high numbers as quick as posible...first to hit is the one going home...
Mike is the epitome of a good Green Beret...humble and ALWAYS willing to learn! Stay Alert Stay Alive! Awesome video but again, someone tell DJ to take the hat off and show off the inherited hairline of glory. lol
I think he's 1st SFOD- D ie. Delta Force which is classified that's why he doesn't acknowledge it
@@bunzinod1964 Mike mentions it all the time, have you never heard him say "CAG" or "The Unit"... that's what he's talking about. D-Boys dont say Delta.
@@bunzinod1964 Mike *was* Delta but ran into a little trouble and left. He's pretty vocal about his past if you watch other podcasts, like Mike Ritland's or Andy Stumpf's. Great stuff.
@@TheSeanBampton what trouble?
It won't let me
Love this conversation! Professionals breaking down reality for us, keep training brother's and sisters!
Mike is very knowledgeable. Well spoken. And a good person. I was very fortunate to attend two fieldcraft classes. Peoria and LV. Good people. Thank you
3 legends man. I aspire to be like these men, can't wait to start my journey starting with basic and selection later this year. Shout out to fng academy helping get us ready! Keep up the content Mike, love this stuff
Good luck on your journey.
SF selection or BUD/S?
@@MrWcommenter selection, with an 18x contract
@@thelegendarycamel good luck
Good luck Rock it out
Great job. Love to hear professionals like you three talk about this.
My father, the greatest shooter i ever met, stressed point shooting constantly to us. He fought on some of the ugliest islands in the pacific in WWII and I can still hear the words, son there may come a day you will not have time to aim. That was 50 years ago.
Can’t wait for more videos like this.
It's an interesting concept. It's like a golf swing. The key is consistent mechanics so that you don't have to think. It become purely mechanical. That split second you have to think about your optic or sight is a spit second too long, but if you have the same mechanical presentation that you've made 1,000 times, you will hit what your body is aiming at.
I’m about 10 mins in, and I can tell you from my experience these guys not just pushing sig, I’m a Glock fanboy and I picked up a 365xl and it was like it was made just for my hand! It was crazy, needless to say I shot it so well I picked up the 365 coyote tan one, and I carry it now over my G19 that I have $2000 in and I have never put a $ in my 365 beside holster, mags, and ammo, I say all that to say, they are being truthful sig has it figured out with there grips you can close your eyes after enough practice draw open your eyes and blaster is lined up perfectly! I’m looking to get the all steel frame p320 next! Trust me guys I never thought I would say any of this! People that know me, went and got the 365 there self because they know I only carry and run glocks, so they knew it had to be a stellar gun, and the sights that come with the gun just like the trijicon HDXR I buy for my Glocks
Best conversation I have heard of about instinctive shooting at close range room clearance.
Man Mike wasn't kidding when he spoke about almost having to use his low capacity EDC in a not so ideal situation. I been in that same boat during a road rage incident and couldn't agree more. After my experience I switched my PPS to a 365, but now appendix a FS Beretta APX or Beretta PX4C Storm. Rather have it and not need it then need it then not have it, not to mention there are many added benefits if your willing to pack a little more weight but that's another discussion.
365 is not high capacity its ten rounds get a compact or full size i used to carry a 365 i carry a 19 now and its upgraded i dont have the shit trigger
@@KillerBudda1418 365x with extended mag is 15(+1) while being the same general size as the regular 365.
PLEASE can everyone here petition Mike to recount this story 8:52, we need a full video on it haha.
As a retired cop/detective I found that I too initially and instinctively shot Glocks a bit high. Once I found to roll my support thumbs forward( parallel), that dropped the muzzle naturally! From there it was all presentation and practice! Good stuff fellas!
The amount of diverse knowledge and experience in this room is outstanding and the willingness to continue learning no matter the experience you have is inspiring. Great work guys
I appreciate you guys for all you do.. specifically for addressing the real world in action “instinctive” shooting. The fear, the pressure, the feeling when you have to send rounds down range at an enemy.
Thanks again.
Damn its comforting knowing we had/have guys like this out there on the line fighting for us.
Dude freak yeah, I dig all the points in this video. Started ccw with all kinds of small guns. After 8 years of it I now rock a g34 with an rmr and tlr1 in an armadillo lux holster. I’m not a big guy either. 180lbs and 510. I’ve found a difference between comfortable and comforting. I choose comforting now.
DJ is the most calming but badass guy. Listening to his interview with Shawn Ryan was great to just listen and learn
30 sum odd years ago, there were a few proponents of "instinctive" shooting. If you align yourself properly it is very doable. I for one am glad that top recent top tier guys are discussing this. Always be open to learning something new, things are continuously evolving, that is the one constant.
As a SWAT Operator of 12 years I don't think it matters much which hardware you carry. Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, etc... it's all about shot placement. However, these guys bring a skill set to the table that makes experienced Operators like myself look like chumps. And I'm good. God bless our soldiers.
Damn... just listening to these guys makes me feel like I never learned anything in my 10 years AF. It's amazing to just to understand the enormity of situational dynamics that goes into their level of training. I'm in AWE...!
I’m also on board with the P320 full size/M17. User friendly and *extremely* accurate. Low recoil impulse and flip.
It's awesome to see the community put a blitz of content out there for DJ and Cole. (Shawn Ryan's interview and now Fieldcraft Survival putting him in the spotlight).
That Shawn Ryan interview with DJ was awesome.
I love mike, discovered him on vigilance elite. Was impressed too when he himself then interviewed that Apache helicopter pilot. Then just the other day was the interview on VE with Shipley. And now here he is, in his own element. Just amazing.
This is one of the most enjoyable/educational (2 part) videos I've watched in a while. Just saying "thank you" sounds so lame here. The amount of knowledge in that room has got to be mind-blowing, and the fact that y'all are sharing some of it with us FOR FREE is just...incredible.
That said, it would be incredible if you could do a video (or maybe even a dedicated series...?) with recent GWOT "Tier 1" guys like DJ and Cole here, meeting and cross-pollinating (for lack of a better word) with older Legends from a different era like Pat McNamara, who still keeps the edge sharp and ready for any situation.
Again...you guys do an incredible job, and please keep it up - it's very much appreciated and used.
These videos are absolutely invaluable to the people who are dedicated to learning without much formal training. People give me shit when I mention that I practice reloading from slide lock to dummy round/target acquisition just because, and I always reply "I bet I'm faster"....
Great video! It's amazing how many people can stand in the outfield and, upon seeing and hearing how the ball comes off the bat, turn and run to a certain spot and stick out their glove to let the ball drop into it, but they think it's some kind of voodoo to point a pistol at somebody's chest six feet away and get a hit without first acquiring a perfect sight picture with those little things on top of the slide.
I don’t understand why people don’t agree with “instinctive” shooting. We throw a ball or shoot a basket without “aiming”, most of the time there is no sights with traditional archery. We drive and keep a moving vehicle between lines. We throw knives and tomahawks. There are numerous examples of how we as humans will put something exactly were we need it without sights. It’s repetition and practice and “muscle memory” to become proficient at all of these tasks. Shooting is the same.
Well put.
Perfect explanation
The problem you find these days is people don’t want to do the work. If you have bad instincts your instinctive shooting is going to be bad. People need to MASTER the fundamentals well before they start instinctive shooting.
Because a arrow or a ball won't go through several layers of sheetrock and cement board, into your children's rooms or your neighbor's house. Most trainers do not advise the average shooter to do instinctive point shooting because the average shooter doesn't have the hours and round count to have developed the "correct" instinct.
@@adamc2378 exactly. These people get on these videos and watch guys that have tens of thousands of hours behind these weapons systems and think their once a month flat range trip will equate to mastering point shooting.
I bought my S&W based on exactly how they described: had the seller layout pistols till I felt a comfortable grip (blind).
Bought my first S&W M&P 2.0 Compact over a year ago. Its my first firearm I ever owned and off topic...my family never were fond of guns but I was gravitated towards it for self defense applications and it is really fun shooting at the range. It is perfect and I love the rough texture on the grip plus I conceal carry everyday no problem.
Gabriel Ortiz I almost got one of those; Tried one at the range and she was accurate; Felt pretty good though It felt a little snappy vs. the SIG 365XL that I also tried; I was sold on the SIG 😉
Sig Sauer probably watching this happy asf.
Well duh. They paid them to do it I’m sure
I have to say that the GBRS guys have some of the most simplistic but informative videos I've ever seen. The way they explain everything just makes sense.
Glock goes Bang everytime you pull the trigger! But, I will admit, that you do need to upgrade the sights. Not taking away too much from Sig Sauer, formerly Swiss Arms. But good tips from the guests.
Just to let you know if you didn’t most guns nowadays work very well and go bang. There are some that are less reliable, but for the most part, most of the guns manufactured today have the same amount of problems as Glock which is to say very little
Just an outstanding episode. Looking forward to part 2. Just saw DJ on Sean Ryans podcast last week. Great dude and patriot. Cole great dude too. I love GBRS videos awesome content. Thanks guys.
I love this stuff and respect the hell out of these guys. I’m sticking with my Gen 3 19, it works and I’m just used to it.
I am just extremely appreciative of all of you taking the time with explaining this. I want to become more proficient with my fire arms. In a deteriorating world I’m the I’m the only line of defense that I can control to protect my family
I love my fullsize P320 for the past 8 years. Appreciate this video
Amazing to have the opportunity to learn from not only America's best but the best on the planet! - - - How fortunate are we to be able to have access to this information from these guys.
The backplate shooting just blew mind. My first pistol was an old H&R sidekick missing it's rear sight so I got used to instinctive shooting as a kid. I'd go hunt bullfrogs with it. Definitely adding backplate shooting to my training
Kick a$$ seabass!! This is good stuff. Would like to a see a special maybe "Part 3" for the Fieldcraft subscribers. Basics are where we start for a reason and when we deviate from that, all the mistakes bring you right back to the basics.
I love that as knowledgeable as Mike is he had no problem being taught and learning things. Solid dude
Mike's level of humility is phenomenal. I personally definitely need to be more teachable and not arrogant like Mike is.
We have issue, full size 320's at work. The modularity is great. For $50 I swapped the standard grip for the X Series Carry Large and it instantly felt better in hand. BUT the older Sig mags that say SIG SAUER straight across the bottom of the mag, don't fit in the mag well. Only the newer mags that say SIG inside of a circle fit and I would guess that that would be standard for most if not all of the non-stock grip modules. Absolutely the best shooting stock pistol out of the box and even better when you get the grip module that you like.
I have the p320 m18 and I did the same swap except I went with the medium x-carry and dropped in the sig flat face trigger and man oh man does it feel right. Love that thing. Would like to pick up an x-compact at some point. The x series grip modules are definitely the most comfortable pistols I have held
I've seen the flat trigger... haven't shot them too much, but heard really good things.
@@JSimBaller23 for me the difference was comparable to the difference in grip modules. Absolutely love it. Definitely worth the extra $50
Have you tried changing to a newer base plate on the mags? I had to do that when I went to the Wilson Combat grip and now the older mags fit.
I loved the comments about instinctive shooting and those interviewed after a shooting said they never looked at their sights. (Paraphrasing here). Count me as another example. The only time I had to fire my weapon as a LEO of 25 years, I had the same experience. My focus was so laser tight on what I had to shoot, I got a solid double tap. I never looked at the sights on my gun. Maybe I was lucky or maybe I was well trained. I don't know, but I hit what I needed to hit. I ended the threat.
LTC Grossman studied and published this info back in the 1990s. Nothing new here.
Saw DJ on Shawn Ryans show. What a Chad. All of you. Big muscley SOCOM Chads everywhere. Love it… I’m invested in Glock via mags and familiarity. I don’t mind the trigger - i know right where that break is. A buddy has sigs and swears by them... God bless guys, thank you so much for your service and continued education 🇺🇸
Dj is a serious dude man. You can really tell. Like down to his everything, oozes professionalism.
Absolutely the best training film made. I have been through the Navy and the Fl certification firearms course and never have I had such a good training course. Thanks fellows.
I'm not typically a glock guy in the past, but I've fallen in love with my glock 19 gen 5, and glock 40 mos. My wife has the p365, and the p320x carry.
I also have the 41 now
Excellent knowledge. I’ve heard from special forces guys that in real CQB gunfights you tend to shoot pretty low, because instinctively you’re trying to keep as much of the threat / target in your field of vision as possible and so your gun just goes down and down to the point you’re rounds are going into the guys belly button or lower
Which is very effective. A person can't do anything without their hips
@@GraphixHurricaneor lungs or brains
Maybe I’m regarded physically but I’ve always felt that Glocks point more naturally to me than 320s.
Flat range larping aside, it’s all about the ergos and body mechanics.
@@paulbarclay4114 probably. I started on double-action revolvers, for what it’s worth.
ya. at this point im stuck with glock. Its like an extension of my body and everything else just feels off. and if im in a gun fight, i have 0 time for feeling off.
@@paulbarclay4114 I agree generally, though I think some people are just going to shoot one or then other better period. My first pistol was an FN FNX9. Super comfortable ergonomics, not a great carry pistol but wasn’t an option for me at the time anyway. 2,500ish rounds and a decent amount of instruction, etc etc., I could never shoot it as well as I wanted. Always thought it was me, I need more training, etc. I blind purchased a glock 17 around that time. Literally from round one, I shot so much better I couldn’t believe it. It wasn’t just grip angle I mean, it’s a lot of things obviously; trigger, purchase, bore axis, recoil management of the softer polymer probably, etc. Obviously I was not an experienced shooter at the time anyway, but I’m talking the difference between literally one day I shoot the FN, even taking my time I’m in the C box constantly, to the next day my first 15 through the glock are all in the A, and I’m shooting way faster on top of that.
That was years ago and I have several pistols I shoot well with and pretty consistently across the board, but I still shoot better and more naturally with glocks
I truly like my Glock, I CC.45. to many it's too big. I'm a small person but it's very comfortable in my hands. I like everything about it. I've owned smaller firearms, I've had a Walter .380 and absolutely hated it in every way.
@@lisaclark6977 that’s what counts - if it feels natural in your hands, go with it. Glock and Sig are both good to go reliability-wise. That’s what counts.
The way you three explain the fundamentals and describe instinctive shooting is exceptional! Than you for passing on this valuable knowledge. 👍🏻
mad respect for DJ, if you haven't listened to the vigilance elite podcast I highly encourage you to do so.
I own the P320 X carry as well I thought I was the only one lol such a good gun basically it's the M18 with a vertical trigger and when it comes to Sig I love Sig and as much as I like the 365xl I chose the Glock 43x instead because I'm getting 15 rounds and I like my Glocks just as much as I like my Sig Sauer
I got 43X mos. EDC.
X5 legion is definitely nice but the AXG (AXG pro with the x series trigger) ergonomics imo is even more on point although it's slightly lighter... Both r amazing and top of the line. Can't wait to try the new 226 pro that just came out this year too
If you watch GBSR videos from a few years ago they carried Glocks. If you watch Sean Ryan videos from a few years ago he carried Glocks, Sean even did an EDC pocket dump video where it was him and a few other retired special ops guys and they all carried Glocks. I have nothing but respect for these men. I love their videos. I thank them for making them. I’m an LEO and I carry a Glock on duty and off.
I have been an AR guy for almost a decade, never owned a handgun. I bought an X5 legion a few months back because of how DJ talks about it. He did not lead me wrong at all. What a fantastic firearm.
Awesome conversation here. I loved that he said it is scary. That is a grown as man who has seen multiple gunfights saying it is freaking scary to be in that situation.
Mike, I really appreciate the videos you put out and the training you provide. As someone who lives in southern California, it definitely makes training hard when everything is more expensive, gun laws are shitty, and its hard to find places where you can actually do real world training. Its great that we can still learn fundamentals and basics through you, and I hope to learn from you in person some day. keep up the awesome work and the videos and knowledge coming man
Mike should go on Timcast IRL and talk Fieldcraft and Guns.
He's like a Navy PatMac.
These guys just ooze bad-ass just in the way they carry themselves and speak... Much respect.
Nice video! I'm pretty happy I bought my SIG as my 1st gun. I've had a ton of people tell my I should've bought a GLOCK.
This is either a super safe room or a super dangerous room depending on who you are.
Guns are like ice cream - some like chocolate, some like vanilla. I've been a Sig fan since the '90s. I've put thousands of rounds through both the P320 Compact and Glock 19. If I had to choose one to fight with, it would be the G19. I'm not a Glock nut since presently I carry a P365XL. But between those two makes and models the G19 is supreme (IMO). Not to mention the track record of reliability and dependability demonstrated through two plus decades use in law enforcement. No other gun has as much real world testing as Glock. Maybe in 20 years the P320 will prove its salt...but that will take time.
Exactly my point
Just returned to Gen5 19 myself sold Sigs. Not bad just wasn’t me
I am a retired Federal Agent. By far no tactical expert but I felt early on in my career that if anyone had to pop off in the execution of a warrant or enforcement activity, the shot(s) will be instinctive and front site or red dot will not be a factor. Great podcast Mike! Thank you!
Now he’s on a domestic terrorist list created by the FBI. This country has become absolutely trash.
It happens. At warrior leader course a "spy" was put in our squad and when he shot one of our people I absolutely drew and fired without looking. I winged him in the arm (simunition) but i always regretted not acquiring my sights for a better shot. I just need to train more.
@@davewebster5120 stay focused on your training and try not to overthink it and let your muscle memory lead you. You'll get it
EVERYONE BOO THIS MAN!!!
I'm glad these men on our side ,thank you for service and great videos
Soak it up ladies & Gents! Mike, Cole & DJ all in the same teaching platform top tier operators right there!
GBRS group is just great. I hope they increase their RUclips posts. I do find it funny though that DJ just did his conceal carry video and he runs a glock 19 with red dot.
Agree. Seemed a bit like a plug for Sig…which is fine. Find a gun that fits your hand and you shoot well and then train. Forget about the name on the side of the slide.
Whoever pays for the spot is the best that day..he plugs Glock and Sig..smart man
The weird audio effect you're getting is from having multiple mics hearing the same thing from different distances, hence with different time delay. If you mix them so you're only hearing one at a time it'll fix this.
I dont see myself ever switching my main pistol from a glock 17. Perhaps for a p226 but I just cant see switching to a p320. To each their own though 👍
Going from striker fired to sa/da is a huge difference. My first and only pistol so far is an Sp2022. B/c of the action it is really hard to prep the trigger with the hammer down. That’s why GRBS was saying they started cocked.
I've seen several people use 320s in classes and I'm not impressed. The trigger is good but other than that I don't see the appeal.
The Glocks are pretty easy to deal with and maintain.....they just work.
@@bmphil3400 the appeal is better trigger,modularity, and grip angle. There’s good reason to swap for potentially have a bunch of different combinations of it. Tbh i had a p320c loved how it felt didn’t work for me past that. I’d take my p226 any day of the week over 90 percent of other handguns the 10 percent being a 92fs variant. The p320 just works to
@@bmphil3400 the appeal is better trigger,modularity, and grip angle. There’s good reason to swap for potentially have a bunch of different combinations of it. Tbh i had a p320c loved how it felt didn’t work for me past that. I’d take my p226 any day of the week over 90 percent of other handguns the 10 percent being a 92fs variant. The p320 just works to
@@governmentcalamari9785 The grip angle is not "better." That's entirely subjective. I don't like any other grip angle than a Glock after shooting and carrying multiple models of them for well over a decade.
DJ is a absolute Monster ! Anyway 3 of this planets tier 1 elite warriors , complete soldiers and humble dudes . These are the heroes I teach my son about !
I’m super glad you guys spoke on instinctive firing. I thought I have been an odd ball the past 20+ years. Whether overseas or shooting competition I don’t ever remember seeing my front sight with a pistol. It was either the second or third shot when I finally picked it up. I always felt it was muscle memory learned from the hundreds and thousands of draws and engagements.