KLM’s decision to adopt the A321neo reflects broader trends in the aviation industry. It’s great to see airlines investing in newer, more efficient aircraft.
There are many fleets running old Boeing and Airbus narrow body fleets that have been flogged like buses. This is the last jet transition before any more radical design and allow for SAF fuel as a blend now and pure SAF in future
KLM’s switch to the A321neo makes a lot of sense given the fuel efficiency and environmental benefits. Excited to see how this impacts their operations!
Not to forget that the Airbus planes (except the 220 which probably will be overhaled soon) can be flown with minimal training on each type. That is waht Boing tried to do with the MCA sor their 737 and the new Max planes. They failed to do it successfully because tey were to cheap and did not do it properly. People died due to this. I would not fly a Boeing for the foreseeable future-except the 747. That is so old, it has matured enough to work.
With the A321neo’s extended range, KLM will be able to explore new routes and offer better connectivity. This is a smart move for their fleet strategy.
As a fan of aviation, I'm excited to see KLM embracing the A321Neo. This aircraft has a lot to offer in terms of efficiency, range, and passenger comfort.
Flying is an acceptable risk, but flying with Boeing means pushing the limits of what is acceptable. Passenger comfort, safety and sense of security should not be underestimated. With Boeing that is long gone.
The A321neo’s improved capacity and noise reduction features are impressive. KLM’s passengers will likely appreciate the more comfortable and quieter flights.
KLM's shift to the A321Neo shows their commitment to efficiency and sustainability. It's great to see airlines making choices that benefit both their operations and the environment!
For long time i may say i am fan of Boeing, but since the problems that Boeing cannot solve and the good developments at Airbus i can no longer say that. Also, support your local, and together with Air France, KLM has a great deal for the choice to switch over. Transavia also did a great job to switch over to the Neo's. Thumbs up for both. Wish them both many safe flight hours.
The decision to move away from the 737 to the A321neo shows KLM’s commitment to modernizing its fleet. Great choice for reducing costs and improving performance.
KLM were Douglas customers WAY before Boeing. I believe they had nearly every model that Douglas and then McDonnell Douglas made, When boeing took MD Over, they went with Boeing, however, have had had Airbus before
Come on, right now you gotta be really confident to fly new Boeing planes given all that has spilled out of their backyard. I certainly avoid the MAX and will keep doing that for many years. The fact that the producer basically lied to the operators and the authorities is brutal and reduces to zero the confidence. The NEO has simply bigger+more efficient engines, and for a few generations this has been enough to compel operators to new planes, since fuel is their biggest spending. The NEO with its fuel efficiency is like a Small Dreamliner or A350, very suitable to long point to point routes.
It's also fair to add that Boeing has been forced into slowing down it's operations by the FAA who unsurprisingly wants to keep a closer eye on how the American company goes about their business and so Boeing aren't able to fulfill their orders as quickly. The knock-on effect of this is that some airlines will look elsewhere. KLM has already bought several Embraer airliners and are currently replacing their 737s with a321neo as you have touched on. They have also ordered several a350 to replace their Dreamliners but delivery isn't until 2026 for these long-haul airliners.
Sign of the times , Boeing current issues started many years ago , I just watched a TV aircraft investigation involving Boeing complacency many years ago . Boeing could fold as an aircraft manufacturer I believe. They have themselves to blame . Boeing using an updated aircraft based on the old 737 , they can not complete with airbus , providing new and better aircraft . If it a Boeing I am not going , if I flying Boeing I may end up going ! Reputation is vital for survival in the airline industry.
The A321Neo's quieter engines and increased passenger capacity are major advantages for KLM. Passengers will definitely appreciate the improved experience.
@@FLIGAVIA Flew with TAP on 330 and 321, and i was surprised by this aircraft. (had to book extra legroom tho). Was quiet, could have a solid rest on a long haul flight. With KLM's friendly staff i possibly would choose for them. And sometimes you can have really good deals with KLM, even tho they are mostly a bit on the high price. But you get what you pay for... KLM is solid good.
Had a friend who lived in the Amsterdam neighbourhood of Buitenveldert, some 600 meters from the descending planes using the socalled Buitenveldertbaan, runway 09/27. godawful noise even at 600 meters distance and especially so in the early morning. Noise reduction for Schipho; is a major thing for the people of the region even if it is not so much a commercial driver like using less fuel or flying farther with the same amount or transport more for the same amount of fuel.
Yes I also live in the Netherlands and everytime I fly from Schiphol i hear the Boeingplanes make so fucking much noise yeah can hear the everywhere in the airport sometimes also silently in the bathrooms
And let’s also not forget the aspect that Schiphol is requiring reduced noise levels from airlines to resolve or at least accommodate long lasting complaints about too high noise levels from people living in the vicinity of Schiphol Airport. As due to the expansions over the years -both of Schiphol and of the built up / housing areas surrounding the airport- noise pollution had become and still remains to be an also politically sensitive issue.
The statement that KLM could be an all Boeing-company is factually incorrect. For shorthaul KLM has heavily invested in Embraers. So, KLM always kept their options open.
Plus the engines can't run in synthetic aviation fuel SAF. It's main Dutch hub wants to cut flights but not passengers, so "bigger" planes need to be ordered now for definite delivery while cutting costs so that a bigger seat capacity plane can run with less passengers at the same profit margin. It may also be an indication that Airbus pilots are "easier" to recruit. Mostly is frustrated Boeing has as this will add to KLMs cost in having two fleet types even if the 787 would be less efficient on paper
KLM's decision to unify its fleet with the A321Neo aligns with the Air France-KLM Group's strategy to streamline operations. This move will likely bring significant cost savings.
Boeing has neglected to design a new aircraft and has always added new parts to the 737, which originally dates from 1967, until they were left with an outdated aircraft to which no more parts could be added. All this to please the shareholder, because developing a new aircraft costs a lot of money, and now, they have been sideways passed by Airbus, who are bringing a new aircraft. So the shareholders are shooting in their own foot.
Boeing is a classic example of what happens to a company when the bean counters assume the power, in this case, instead of design and engineering calling the shots. Hunger for short term gain overlooks the potential for long term pain. The MAX is not the only problem in the Boeing camp. The 787 line in Alabama is also suffering quality issues. I wouldn't be surprised if KL eventually replaces their 78-9 fleet with A350s.
@@AndrewLarson-mq7xc The only way that will happen is if their corporate culture undergoes a massive change and wrests power from the accountants. How many "overnights" do you believe that will take?
[9:49] 'The worlds leading aircraft manufacturer'. This would be Boeing, right? Is this still the case? What is 'leading'? The company that sets the pace for the market? That would likely be Airbus with them bringing to market the most new or improved types in the last decade. Or does leading refer to the technological advancement? In that case Boeing is also behind, with Airbus using more efficient designs and high cockpit similarity between wildly diverse types. I guess the American dream of Boeing being a leader in a relative commodity market of passenger aircraft has come down like a lead zeppelin in the last decade. They seem unable to bring new designs to market, cut corners on production and engineering quality. That is not the attitude an industry leader is required to have.
KLM’s focus on fuel efficiency with the A321neo aligns with current industry trends towards sustainability. This move could set an example for other airlines.
Wise decision, Airbus currently makes/supplies a better and more reliable aircraft with better performance on noise/kerosene use and a more spacious seat layout.💪🏼
With the delays to the Max 10’s certification makes sense. Also, let’s be fair the Max is a bit of a disaster! Better be safe this time and stick to Airbus until Boeing can get it’s house in order.
calling the Max a disaster in 2024 is pretty wild, also what happened to that A350 again which was supposed to be "uncrashable" stated by Airbus? seems Boeing isnt the only company to lie
Sorry, but it is a disaster, if anyone can’t see that they are deluded. Boeing are killing people with a poor company culture and shabby manufacturing practices. I am no Airbus fanboy. At the end of the day Boeing used to make great products. They have lost their way. Airbus have made their mistakes that’s true, but nothing on Boeing’s scale. The max has proven to be dangerous several times. It’s a flying coffin.
If you want to renew old 737s the choice is either the Max or the neos…. Not much of a choice I would say. But that’s just me…. These guys usually only care about operational costs.
I am surprised that you do not mention the fact that the Airbus A321 neo is delivered to KLM in a containerized version. B737max does not have this option. For loading/unloading this makes a big difference for the ground staff performing this tasks. In view of Dutch or EU legislation this is not to be underestimated.
that's nothing confirmed at all. While you're only mentioning the A321Neo, you need to know that this Airbus airframe would only possibly replace the 737-900 fleet. In order to replace the 737-800s there would have been talks of A320Neo which until now nothing was said. Therefore, it appears the ordered A321Neo fleet would be a small one within KLM serving few here and there long thin routes, and not fully replacing the 737 NG fleet (yet) as you imply.
Let's just cut to the chase, would you be volunteering to fly on a Boeing airliner in this day and age with the company's reputation and name so tarnished - I know that I wouldn't really want to. Plus, it actually looks as if Airbus makes a better product these days. The engines are quieter, the airliner has more range in terms of the number of nautical miles it can fly before it has to be refuelled. It's probably better to be buying from the French airliner manufacturer than from Boeing as things currently stand. I don't really see Boeing's level of trust that they once enjoyed from the likes of KLM or Qantas being returned to anything like it was before the boardroom decided to put something other than SAFETY at the top of their priority list. Boeing's loss is Airbus' gain, and that of Embraer and Bombardier.
Boeings biggest mistake is rushing the 737max way to fast after the a320neo to fast resulting lack of quality and safety. Also the 737 is way to old the shouldve developed an entire new aircraft or create an 757 max instead.
"If it's Boeing, I'm not going". That's all about it. Good decision from KLM!
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The NG 737 were very safe and capable aircraft’s, max has some problems tho. So I’m happy with the choose that KLM made.
@@kwekzy_8298 NG 737 had loads of accidents nearly over 500+
KLM’s decision to adopt the A321neo reflects broader trends in the aviation industry. It’s great to see airlines investing in newer, more efficient aircraft.
There are many fleets running old Boeing and Airbus narrow body fleets that have been flogged like buses. This is the last jet transition before any more radical design and allow for SAF fuel as a blend now and pure SAF in future
The transition from the 737 to the A321Neo is huge for KLM. Can't wait to see these new planes in action!
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The higher capacity of the A321neo should help KLM accommodate more passengers and improve profitability on busy routes.
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Boeing should have just marketed an exclusive model for KLM - the 737 - MAX - Verstappen. They would have definitely filled the order books with that
HA! nice
This move by KLM to the A321Neo is a win for passengers too - more comfort and better service on flights!
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A321 is the all around best jet out there. it's not a wide body jumbo, but has good capacity, great range, fuel efficiency, and quiet. can't compare
I guess KLM isn’t choosing a plane where doors fly off on their own, bolt missing on vital part and who knows, wings to fall off?
Can’t wait to see the A321Neo in KLM colors!
You did in the video unless you mean with your own eyes and not a video 😅
Is it beautiful right?
KLM’s switch to the A321neo makes a lot of sense given the fuel efficiency and environmental benefits. Excited to see how this impacts their operations!
I'm glad KLM chose the A321Neo. It’s a more environmentally friendly option and will save them money in the long run.
KLM moving to airbus with the NEO is the perfect choice. 🇳🇱
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KLM’s transition plan seems well thought out. Phasing out older 737s while integrating new A321neos will help ensure a smooth transition.
Not to forget that the Airbus planes (except the 220 which probably will be overhaled soon) can be flown with minimal training on each type.
That is waht Boing tried to do with the MCA sor their 737 and the new Max planes.
They failed to do it successfully because tey were to cheap and did not do it properly.
People died due to this.
I would not fly a Boeing for the foreseeable future-except the 747.
That is so old, it has matured enough to work.
With the A321neo’s extended range, KLM will be able to explore new routes and offer better connectivity. This is a smart move for their fleet strategy.
The instability with the B737 Max definitely pushed KLM towards Airbus.
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The flexibility and performance of the A321Neo make it a versatile aircraft for KLM's diverse route network. A well-thought-out decision!
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It’s interesting to see KLM shift towards Airbus after so many years with Boeing. The A321neo’s advantages make it a compelling choice.
As a fan of aviation, I'm excited to see KLM embracing the A321Neo. This aircraft has a lot to offer in terms of efficiency, range, and passenger comfort.
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... and safety.
Flying is an acceptable risk, but flying with Boeing means pushing the limits of what is acceptable.
Passenger comfort, safety and sense of security should not be underestimated. With Boeing that is long gone.
I really love to see KLM airplanes, their light blue livery looks SO GOOD! It’s one of the best !
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Wow, KLM switching from the B737 to the A321Neo is a big move! Curious to see how this will affect their operations.
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The A321neo’s improved capacity and noise reduction features are impressive. KLM’s passengers will likely appreciate the more comfortable and quieter flights.
do you like A321Neo?
KLM's shift to the A321Neo shows their commitment to efficiency and sustainability. It's great to see airlines making choices that benefit both their operations and the environment!
KLM's fleet upgrade to the A321Neo reflects the evolving needs of the aviation industry. Modern, efficient aircraft are the way forward.
On a neo last year(2023) to Pathos, Cyprus; lovely flight!
The broader strategy of fleet standardization makes a lot of sense.
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For long time i may say i am fan of Boeing, but since the problems that Boeing cannot solve and the good developments at Airbus i can no longer say that. Also, support your local, and together with Air France, KLM has a great deal for the choice to switch over. Transavia also did a great job to switch over to the Neo's. Thumbs up for both. Wish them both many safe flight hours.
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can you explain how and when did Transavia switch from Boeing 737s to the A321 Neos??
@@Advancedkid Transavia has received its first 321 Neo last november, the phasing out will take a while, but the proces is going on right now.
It’s interesting how the Boeing 737 Max issues pushed KLM towards Airbus. Sometimes competition benefits everyone.
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As a frequent KLM flyer, I'm excited to experience the A321Neo. I’ve heard great things about its performance.
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KLM embracing the A321Neo is a bold move. The increased range and capacity will definitely enhance their network.
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Fuel efficiency and lower operating costs make the A321Neo a smart choice. Good move, KLM!
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The issues with the older B737 fleet make this decision understandable.
The A321Neo is a great choice for KLM. I'm excited to see how this impacts their operations and passenger experience.
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The transition to a more environmentally friendly fleet is a smart move by KLM.
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they also are a bit forced to do so. Government is partly stakeholder who has also their own agenda on emissions etc.
KLM switching to the A321Neo is a smart move. The fuel efficiency and modern features are unbeatable!
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I think you have to redo your homework. 😉
Pieter Elbers left KLM in june 2022 and nowadays he is the ceo of Indigo.
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Sad to see the B737 go, but it’s clear the A321Neo offers a lot of advantages. Can’t wait to see these planes in action.
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KLM always strives for the best, and switching to the A321Neo proves they’re committed to innovation and efficiency.
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The decision to move away from the 737 to the A321neo shows KLM’s commitment to modernizing its fleet. Great choice for reducing costs and improving performance.
yep
KLM used to be pretty loyal to Boeing. I think they are no longer feeling that way.
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KLM were Douglas customers WAY before Boeing. I believe they had nearly every model that Douglas and then McDonnell Douglas made, When boeing took MD Over, they went with Boeing, however, have had had Airbus before
@@adrianbriggs2763 it doesn't change anything for me. I've always liked KLM and I'm sure I will continue to like them.
It's a shame. Airbus make ugly planes.
KLM's decision to switch to the A321Neo highlights the ongoing issues with the 737. Airbus is definitely gaining ground!
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The A321Neo’s performance and range are impressive.
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The transition from the B737 to the A321Neo is a smart move by KLM. The A321Neo's fuel efficiency is a game-changer in reducing operating costs.
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The environmental impact of older aircraft can't be ignored. KLM's choice to go with the more eco-friendly A321Neo is commendable.
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Come on, right now you gotta be really confident to fly new Boeing planes given all that has spilled out of their backyard. I certainly avoid the MAX and will keep doing that for many years. The fact that the producer basically lied to the operators and the authorities is brutal and reduces to zero the confidence. The NEO has simply bigger+more efficient engines, and for a few generations this has been enough to compel operators to new planes, since fuel is their biggest spending. The NEO with its fuel efficiency is like a Small Dreamliner or A350, very suitable to long point to point routes.
Airbus Rocked ♥️🔥 Boeing Shocked 💀☠️
KLM’s move to A321Neo shows how airlines need to adapt to stay competitive and environmentally friendly.
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Peter Elberts is currently CEO of indigo airlines.
Who is Peter Elberts? Or did you mean Pieter Elbers?
KLM’s decision shows the industry’s shift towards newer, more efficient aircraft.
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With the A320/a321 NEO, Airbus surpassed Boeing in the most attractive category of aircraft and ascended to the top of the aviation industry.
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Did he end this clip with saying that boeing is the world leading manufacturer for airplanes? I think that is history.
it was
227 seats in A321? Come on Klm... You are not a low cost...
It's also fair to add that Boeing has been forced into slowing down it's operations by the FAA who unsurprisingly wants to keep a closer eye on how the American company goes about their business and so Boeing aren't able to fulfill their orders as quickly.
The knock-on effect of this is that some airlines will look elsewhere.
KLM has already bought several Embraer airliners and are currently replacing their 737s with a321neo as you have touched on.
They have also ordered several a350 to replace their Dreamliners but delivery isn't until 2026 for these long-haul airliners.
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Best engine bolted to the finest aircraft in its segment. Easy choice
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Sign of the times , Boeing current issues started many years ago , I just watched a TV aircraft investigation involving Boeing complacency many years ago . Boeing could fold as an aircraft manufacturer I believe. They have themselves to blame . Boeing using an updated aircraft based on the old 737 , they can not complete with airbus , providing new and better aircraft . If it a Boeing I am not going , if I flying Boeing I may end up going ! Reputation is vital for survival in the airline industry.
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The A321Neo's quieter engines and increased passenger capacity are major advantages for KLM. Passengers will definitely appreciate the improved experience.
that's right
@@FLIGAVIA Flew with TAP on 330 and 321, and i was surprised by this aircraft. (had to book extra legroom tho). Was quiet, could have a solid rest on a long haul flight. With KLM's friendly staff i possibly would choose for them. And sometimes you can have really good deals with KLM, even tho they are mostly a bit on the high price. But you get what you pay for... KLM is solid good.
Why does the Transavia new a321neo have winglets but klm don't i mean winglets causes the aircraft to have less turbulence right?
The LR version has better leg room with is awsome. Some of my best flying experiences
Had a friend who lived in the Amsterdam neighbourhood of Buitenveldert, some 600 meters from the descending planes using the socalled Buitenveldertbaan, runway 09/27. godawful noise even at 600 meters distance and especially so in the early morning.
Noise reduction for Schipho; is a major thing for the people of the region even if it is not so much a commercial driver like using less fuel or flying farther with the same amount or transport more for the same amount of fuel.
And without the annoying "BOOM" from time to time...
Yes I also live in the Netherlands and everytime I fly from Schiphol i hear the Boeingplanes make so fucking much noise yeah can hear the everywhere in the airport sometimes also silently in the bathrooms
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The A321Neo’s reduced noise and increased range are great benefits. KLM passengers will appreciate these upgrades.
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And let’s also not forget the aspect that Schiphol is requiring reduced noise levels from airlines to resolve or at least accommodate long lasting complaints about too high noise levels from people living in the vicinity of Schiphol Airport. As due to the expansions over the years -both of Schiphol and of the built up / housing areas surrounding the airport- noise pollution had become and still remains to be an also politically sensitive issue.
I feel like KLM is replacing most of their Boeing aircraft with Airbus.
It seems so.
Nobodoy talking about how the thumbnail shows an A320N haha
Edit: Its an A320-232 with a A320N livery?
The statement that KLM could be an all Boeing-company is factually incorrect. For shorthaul KLM has heavily invested in Embraers. So, KLM always kept their options open.
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That’s KLM Cityhopper which for years always flew Fokker aircraft.
@@jamesbartlett5640 Still KLM, no matter how you spin it.
Well done KLM! One more reason to keep on flying with the dutch carrier. If even the 787 were phased out it would be even better!
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average Airbus fanboy
@@OfficialDoggyYT You? As a former Boeing pilot I wouldn't trust my former beloved brand anymore
The A321Neo offers better range and capacity, making it an ideal choice for KLM's European routes. This will undoubtedly enhance their service.
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Verstandige beslissing. Geef aan een Boeing nog niet mijn oude schoenen mee.
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It's interesting to see KLM move away from the 737. The A321Neo must have some serious advantages!
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I’m not suprised if they switch from the 787 family to the A350-900
They already have ruclips.net/video/36tPQN38U7E/видео.html
Since june 2022 Pieter Elbers is no longer CEO of KLM
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Plus the engines can't run in synthetic aviation fuel SAF. It's main Dutch hub wants to cut flights but not passengers, so "bigger" planes need to be ordered now for definite delivery while cutting costs so that a bigger seat capacity plane can run with less passengers at the same profit margin. It may also be an indication that Airbus pilots are "easier" to recruit. Mostly is frustrated Boeing has as this will add to KLMs cost in having two fleet types even if the 787 would be less efficient on paper
You have shared good information, thanks
Boeing needs to step up if they want to retain big clients like KLM.
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This is just text to AI speech isn't it. Sounds super unnatural.
Yes, it gets tiring very quickly, so annoying
KLM's decision to unify its fleet with the A321Neo aligns with the Air France-KLM Group's strategy to streamline operations. This move will likely bring significant cost savings.
Boeing has neglected to design a new aircraft and has always added new parts to the 737, which originally dates from 1967, until they were left with an outdated aircraft to which no more parts could be added. All this to please the shareholder, because developing a new aircraft costs a lot of money, and now, they have been sideways passed by Airbus, who are bringing a new aircraft. So the shareholders are shooting in their own foot.
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Boeing is a classic example of what happens to a company when the bean counters assume the power, in this case, instead of design and engineering calling the shots. Hunger for short term gain overlooks the potential for long term pain. The MAX is not the only problem in the Boeing camp. The 787 line in Alabama is also suffering quality issues. I wouldn't be surprised if KL eventually replaces their 78-9 fleet with A350s.
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Boeing will get there crap back together it didn't happen overnight won't be fixed overnight
@@AndrewLarson-mq7xc The only way that will happen is if their corporate culture undergoes a massive change and wrests power from the accountants. How many "overnights" do you believe that will take?
@@alradioguy2269 got to have accountants can't get buy without them if people want a paycheck every 2 weeks.
@@AndrewLarson-mq7xc It shouldn't have happened in the first place. How many more will be subjected to peril until they get THEIR crap back?
[9:49] 'The worlds leading aircraft manufacturer'. This would be Boeing, right? Is this still the case? What is 'leading'? The company that sets the pace for the market? That would likely be Airbus with them bringing to market the most new or improved types in the last decade. Or does leading refer to the technological advancement? In that case Boeing is also behind, with Airbus using more efficient designs and high cockpit similarity between wildly diverse types.
I guess the American dream of Boeing being a leader in a relative commodity market of passenger aircraft has come down like a lead zeppelin in the last decade. They seem unable to bring new designs to market, cut corners on production and engineering quality. That is not the attitude an industry leader is required to have.
Airbus 321 NEO is far efficient than the Boeing competition
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God bless Airbus
they made the right choice, Boeing is making to many mistakes lately, they promise but cant deliver
KLM’s focus on fuel efficiency with the A321neo aligns with current industry trends towards sustainability. This move could set an example for other airlines.
Wise decision, Airbus currently makes/supplies a better and more reliable aircraft with better performance on noise/kerosene use and a more spacious seat layout.💪🏼
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Out of context hut finally someone that gives credits to the clips in the video
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@@FLIGAVIA nice vid btw
Boeing is like the American presidential election. They don't modernize but stick with the old.
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The A321Neo’s range and capacity are impressive. KLM is making a forward-thinking decision here.
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With the delays to the Max 10’s certification makes sense. Also, let’s be fair the Max is a bit of a disaster! Better be safe this time and stick to Airbus until Boeing can get it’s house in order.
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calling the Max a disaster in 2024 is pretty wild, also what happened to that A350 again which was supposed to be "uncrashable" stated by Airbus? seems Boeing isnt the only company to lie
Sorry, but it is a disaster, if anyone can’t see that they are deluded. Boeing are killing people with a poor company culture and shabby manufacturing practices. I am no Airbus fanboy. At the end of the day Boeing used to make great products. They have lost their way. Airbus have made their mistakes that’s true, but nothing on Boeing’s scale. The max has proven to be dangerous several times. It’s a flying coffin.
I guess KLM isn’t
Maybe I am stupid, but Pieter Elbers wasn't CEO when this decision was made? I believe Elbers left KLM mid 2022...
Decision was made in December 2021. Elbers was still CEO.
Good call.... Boeings are crap these days
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I hope that Boeing will one day make a new modern and safe aircraft to replace the old-fashioned 737.
We all love Boeing airplanes.
Yeah that would be great
No, no, not everyone loves Boeing.
If you want to renew old 737s the choice is either the Max or the neos….
Not much of a choice I would say. But that’s just me….
These guys usually only care about operational costs.
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exactly, KLM has been a Boeing customer ever since 1920.
Is Airbus a321 neo right for KLM? Absolutely!
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I am surprised that you do not mention the fact that the Airbus A321 neo is delivered to KLM in a containerized version. B737max does not have this option. For loading/unloading this makes a big difference for the ground staff performing this tasks. In view of Dutch or EU legislation this is not to be underestimated.
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Pieter Elbers is not the current CEO.
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The switch to A321neo may impact ot's relation with the worlds leading aircraft manufacturer, which is???
Boeing may not be around within 20 years so sad
that's nothing confirmed at all. While you're only mentioning the A321Neo, you need to know that this Airbus airframe would only possibly replace the 737-900 fleet. In order to replace the 737-800s there would have been talks of A320Neo which until now nothing was said. Therefore, it appears the ordered A321Neo fleet would be a small one within KLM serving few here and there long thin routes, and not fully replacing the 737 NG fleet (yet) as you imply.
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It is confirmed that the KLM 737NG fleet will me replaced by the A320neo. The last 737 will be replaced around 2030
@@bram6452 L decision by KLM
@@OfficialDoggyYT yea its a shame to see the 737 go
@@bram6452 finally someone who agrees
They had no choice… Air France made the choice for KLM. Same goes for Martinair. They have no say anymore.
indeed the one and only reason....
Martinair is 100% KLM, it is that simple.
Boeing will still be a part of the KLM fleet with the relatively new 777 and some brand new 787 planes.
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Let's just cut to the chase, would you be volunteering to fly on a Boeing airliner in this day and age with the company's reputation and name so tarnished - I know that I wouldn't really want to.
Plus, it actually looks as if Airbus makes a better product these days.
The engines are quieter, the airliner has more range in terms of the number of nautical miles it can fly before it has to be refuelled.
It's probably better to be buying from the French airliner manufacturer than from Boeing as things currently stand.
I don't really see Boeing's level of trust that they once enjoyed from the likes of KLM or Qantas being returned to anything like it was before the boardroom decided to put something other than SAFETY at the top of their priority list.
Boeing's loss is Airbus' gain, and that of Embraer and Bombardier.
Boeings biggest mistake is rushing the 737max way to fast after the a320neo to fast resulting lack of quality and safety. Also the 737 is way to old the shouldve developed an entire new aircraft or create an 757 max instead.