Project M 3.0: The Golden Era of Overpowered Smash Characters

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @LnktheWolf
    @LnktheWolf 2 года назад +361

    Miss how big and common the streams were back then. Could pretty much watch pm live whenever you wanted

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +66

      Same 🙃

    • @MonteRicard
      @MonteRicard 2 года назад +17

      We're hoping that we'll get a sort of comeback there with what we're doing with REMIX. Tourneys are happening but it's a shame it's mostly post event VODs that are the only means of engagement.

    • @EnergyBurst2
      @EnergyBurst2 2 года назад +5

      I do indeed miss that.

    • @malonee
      @malonee Год назад +5

      Man! These were the days! Going to a massive local melee/pm tournament, then almost everyone going to a homies house for a big fest right after, while a tournament streams melee/pm. Just fun days

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 Год назад +1

      Ye

  • @Nezergy
    @Nezergy 2 года назад +100

    sick one, got really into the game from watching xanadu-era and started as a lucas main, always nice to see old names get honored

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +21

      o shit you were a xanadu kid? didn't know that.
      glad you liked it man, as a fellow oldhead i have to honor my roots lol

    • @Nezergy
      @Nezergy 2 года назад +9

      @@arJunebugSmash yee, me and res were reminiscing at FnB2, both of us fondly remembered jewchainz's verse in his song lmfao

  • @AJ-sl7be
    @AJ-sl7be 2 года назад +127

    Man I wish PM was allowed at huge tournaments.

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +84

      There's shadow majors at every big tourney which is cool
      But yeah unfortunate :(

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt 2 года назад +16

    Oh hell naw you didn’t just do the where are they now epilogue for this video
    10/10

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +5

      LMAOOOOO
      We artistic out here Walt

    • @darkstar4450
      @darkstar4450 2 года назад +1

      @@arJunebugSmash will pay for a video on sosa

  • @Chr1sT0fu
    @Chr1sT0fu 2 года назад +103

    I'd kill to go back in time to the smash scene during this era. both melee and PM were the 2 most played games and the hype was unreal. the scene was absolutely massive and everyone was in love with smash. now I'm a melee player who is just waiting for the next melee-esque modern plat fighter to capture me...

    • @Smitteys86
      @Smitteys86 2 года назад +17

      Rivals 2 had a trailer recently if you haven't seen it. They're bringing back ledges, shield and grabs so it looks a lot more like PM than the first one

    • @OnlyBlix
      @OnlyBlix Месяц назад +1

      Yo 2 year comment. Check out Rivals of Aether 2.

    • @Chr1sT0fu
      @Chr1sT0fu Месяц назад +1

      @ it's pretty cool but i actually have way more issues with it than I did with like, pm 3.5. Maybe I'll enjoy it more after a year of patches but for now I'm just playing melee and waiting for fizzi's remake (which might be hopium)

  • @_fudgepop01
    @_fudgepop01 2 года назад +33

    Love these video essays man, and I love talkin' about platform fighter game design and balance with ya too! Great work :3

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 2 года назад +56

    One thing you didn't cover was Lucas's grab, Lucas's dash grab in 3.0 had a hitbox that covered both his body even behind him and the snake for the entire duration. Why they thought this grab was a good idea I don't know

    • @matwaltz8070
      @matwaltz8070 2 года назад +7

      It also beat a spotdodge even if u were doing it after reacting to the grab LMAO

  • @Garethaxz
    @Garethaxz Год назад +1

    It's pretty great to see that you're still around, sad I missed these videos for so long.
    The scene overall chose nintendo over themselves, can't say I ever agreed with that call but don't blame vgbootcamp and others for chasing their livelihood. I also can't blame the dev's for wanting to play it safe when Nintendo began to flash their trademarked, now all too common, utter contempt for their own fans.
    PM was something really special, P+ is great but I just can't help being a bit heartbroken over what could have been.
    Thanks for the nostalgia and memories
    -- an old, old ass lurker, spammer, essay-writer of the PM smashboard.

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  Год назад +4

      I think all the old PM heads are a little traumatized over what transpired but some of us are still around
      I do wish that we lived in the reality where Big N embraced us, woulda been sick

  • @raizokite240
    @raizokite240 2 года назад +1

    Never watched competetive project M because I started with smash 4 so I didn't know who you were. Something I love about these types of analysis videos are when there's the use of "I". Like watching the history of a speedrun hits different when you hear "That's when I got the world record" or "I discovered" 4:55 I loved the video and I loved that you were able to include yourself

  • @qwertz143
    @qwertz143 2 года назад +8

    great videos as always junebug

  • @deejay4139
    @deejay4139 2 года назад +2

    Great vid. Love your personal commentary

  • @0Enigmatic0
    @0Enigmatic0 2 года назад +5

    Great video homie, very nostalgic. :)

  • @tongster789
    @tongster789 2 года назад +2

    the where are they now is gold

  • @WingGT79
    @WingGT79 2 года назад +4

    I remember watching PM Vods when i first started to get into competitive smash, this version of PM will always have a special place in my heart

  • @yarsrevengerson
    @yarsrevengerson 2 года назад +30

    The good ol' days, I've never been ride or day for this specific version of the game but the energy and community around the game at the time really was like nothing else. Truly the Golden Era

  • @kelskelskels
    @kelskelskels 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Skimmed the comments for this, and I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but jasper goes by Vi now FYI

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +3

      Put that in the description after someone DMed me about it

  • @ZachHonest
    @ZachHonest 2 года назад +35

    As jank as all the characters were, I give the devs props for literally making Roy and Mewtwo playable. I was super hyped and looked forward to 3.0 back in the day.
    It was a different meta back in the day but it was important for the scene.

    • @magmivire
      @magmivire 2 года назад +1

      Even Melee Mewtwo has always been just a couple tweaks from being legit good

  • @Sethlon
    @Sethlon 2 года назад +6

    Oh god I forgot that Diddy fair used to be Sheik angle

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 2 года назад +2

    the Seagull Joe shade at the end XD

  • @NeutralOfficial
    @NeutralOfficial 2 года назад +1

    youtube didn't give me the notif for this video so i learned u dropped it by truckerhat malding abt the lucas section

  • @MonteRicard
    @MonteRicard 2 года назад

    Nice, this was a neat blast from the past! Definitely good references for my fellow REMIX devs when it comes our rosters balance and updates!

  • @Pabmyster
    @Pabmyster 2 года назад

    Man, that Xanadu era of PM 3.0 brings back so many memories. Right when I was getting into smash and hot off the documentary, you could find people of every smash background coming together every Tuesday night for banger tournaments and fire commentary. Legitimately thousands of people watching a weekly tournament. Despite the characters being broken I think we all had fond memories of that era. Those were the days.

  • @shiina4861
    @shiina4861 2 года назад +2

    u have easily some of the best smash content, great video

  • @Krista3000
    @Krista3000 2 года назад +4

    3.02 era will always be remembered. such an exciting time to be a player

  • @hmalba7864
    @hmalba7864 2 года назад +1

    I remember seeing that famous Neon vs M2K set for the first time, not knowing what PM was or even the competitive Smash scene at large. I had only kind of gotten into Smash 4 at that point but decided right then and there that Lucas was the coolest fucking character in existence and wanted to main him. Imagine my joy when he was announced as DLC

  • @RhyHello
    @RhyHello 2 года назад +4

    Can we all agree that Lucas, Diddy, Pit, and Mewtwo is the coolest top tier list you could possibly grab from brawl (okay maybe snake should be there too)

  • @arkelon
    @arkelon 2 года назад +4

    aw hell naw don't tell me Red Marth got to Junebug

  • @dlx_ssb
    @dlx_ssb 2 года назад +1

    Love your vids as a newish player to the scene ive learned so much thanks for the great videos!

  • @Ichikue
    @Ichikue 2 года назад

    First time a video has asked me to subscribe and I have.
    Maybe cause it wasn't the first thing said haha wish more RUclipsrs were creative with their plug. Loved the video

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku 2 года назад +2

    I mean the "golden era of overpowered smash characters" was definitely Smash 64, where 90% of the cast has guaranteed 0 to deaths on 90% of the cast unless you have wizzrobe-tier SDI (at which point it goes down to like 60%)

  • @Duffy_SSBM
    @Duffy_SSBM 2 года назад

    Great video! I didn't realize how busted those characters really were

  • @NCProjectM
    @NCProjectM 2 года назад +9

    I started since 1.0, really getting into it in 2.6. 3.02 was weird for me since I hated how imbalanced it was, and at the time preferred melee to it, even though I liked playing PM more. Then 3.5 dropped and I LOVED the nerfs, but that + smash 4 + nintendo threats killed a big chunk of the scene's momentum. Now P+ is my favorite smash game, and while I enjoyed the 3.02 days, I'm also glad the days of that gameplay are gone. I just wish the scene was the same.
    I think it is also worth mentioning in 3.02, Pit's d tilt had a meteor hitbox on it, so it beat CC outright. It made scrapping with him even harder. I'm also curious if these top 4 would have stayed the same if more time developed. At least as an MK main, I feel like there was so much MK mains didn't know about back then that would have made him more threatening. And surely there are other characters that went untapped.
    Thank you for making these videos and keeping the PM/P+ interest up.
    -JELLY

    • @SSJPENGUIN
      @SSJPENGUIN 2 года назад +1

      I started at 3.6 beta so a lot of the 3.0 footage looks like some crazy fever dream

    • @NCProjectM
      @NCProjectM 2 года назад

      @@SSJPENGUIN It was the wild west of balance and meta development for sure.

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 2 года назад +5

    Never would have gotten into smash the way i am now if it wasn't for pm
    Also A brawl minus balance philosophy for a custom build of project plus with all the content and quality of life stuff in p+ 2.29 would be phenomenal

  • @TimmWith2Ms
    @TimmWith2Ms 2 года назад +3

    This was awesome to see as someone who got into PM during the 2.1 days and reliving the rise and peaks we got to back around 2010-2011. Haven't played since 3.5 (why did they nerf Ganon's nair?!) but this makes me wanna pick up P+

  • @Joepuh
    @Joepuh 2 года назад +3

    the choke cord is back in 2022... redmarth returns...

  • @cmacd9313
    @cmacd9313 Год назад +1

    High skill and experience players still made Pit look godlike at the time: Darc, Gallo, Sosa, Malachi, Jaden (?) Pit was still VERY good, but required such a skillset/mindset to play. Not that you denied this, but there was never a dip in pit imo

  • @J0ulez5
    @J0ulez5 2 года назад +1

    Wanna make junebug happy? Give diddy another banana

  • @CogzillaOfDojima
    @CogzillaOfDojima 2 года назад +4

    3.02 Mewtwo tail looks the the Blooper limbs you have to grab in Sunshine

  • @therunawaygang76
    @therunawaygang76 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @HossLikesBirds
    @HossLikesBirds 2 года назад +1

    Another banger June vid

  • @TKbreezy
    @TKbreezy 2 года назад +4

    The Good Ol Days

  • @Twisted_Logic
    @Twisted_Logic 2 года назад

    I started in 2.6 and this really brings back memories. Tough times for a Bowser main, especially when one of my practice buddies mained Lucas lol

  • @anothenblue2630
    @anothenblue2630 2 года назад +1

    Remember when Sonic had a 8 frame invul Shine Spin Dash? Those were the times

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 2 года назад +2

    I joined the community in 3.5 but always enjoyed watching some of the more legendary 3.02 sets

  • @rz6711
    @rz6711 2 года назад +2

    When talking about diddy walling I'm surprised you didn't use the great clip of boss vs squeak where he trips like 6 times into death lmao
    EE saying SQUEAK THO as he rages and punches the table

    • @arJunebugSmash
      @arJunebugSmash  2 года назад +2

      LMAO that was a great moment

    • @mlv5746
      @mlv5746 2 года назад

      can't find a clip of it unfortunately

    • @rz6711
      @rz6711 2 года назад +1

      @@mlv5746 ruclips.net/video/1JMdXr1fcOA/видео.html
      0:55
      Whole game is on the reupload channel, played on
      09/30/14

    • @mlv5746
      @mlv5746 2 года назад

      @@rz6711 thanks

  • @velvety_antlers
    @velvety_antlers 2 года назад +2

    Wow I love Lucas 🥺 Great video

  • @KomodoTheCashew
    @KomodoTheCashew 2 года назад +1

    PM Snake with his crazy ass setups is the most fun I’ve had in Smash. Nothing like c4ing an off stage enemy to shoot them up only to fair spike them back down.
    Charizard’s gameplay is also a favorite.
    I miss PM’s era.

  • @MrLzSmash
    @MrLzSmash 2 года назад +6

    banger

  • @ienjoyplants4890
    @ienjoyplants4890 2 года назад +1

    All sorts of characters were so fun in 3.0 PM, i personally loved old Zelda where she got 3 side B's for area denial and fun combo setups. I have great and salty memories alike from early PM

  • @zirkq
    @zirkq 2 года назад +3

    PM 3.0 Lucas was sick, he's what got me into pm and competitive smash

  • @itsScoots
    @itsScoots 2 года назад +1

    Lucas also had a psi freeze magnet, shooting out pk freeze while moving and then psi shielding would drag you to the pk freeze. 💪

  • @johnlukecampbell3140
    @johnlukecampbell3140 2 года назад +1

    I remember Me and cousin spends hours trying to put project m and super smash bros infinite on my wii. Those were some good times.

  • @ArcaneTricks
    @ArcaneTricks 2 года назад

    PM was very popular when I was doing my bachelors at a University. It was such a good time in my life.

  • @theimprovedbore550
    @theimprovedbore550 2 года назад +8

    wake up babe, new junebug video essay just dropped

  • @jamesjamescamp3
    @jamesjamescamp3 2 года назад +1

    S/o to Ike double side b wall jumps.. those were the days

  • @lucagacy
    @lucagacy 2 года назад +1

    The original game that got me into smash. It will always have a place in my heart.

  • @troublesomesheep
    @troublesomesheep 2 года назад +7

    Got into smash because of 3.02 in 2014, it was quite possibly the biggest part of my college years. Mostly play melee now thanks to rollback and most of my friends not playing anymore... fingers crossed they can get p+ rollback working sooner rather than later. Pm will always be my first love ❤

  • @SpookyMagi2001
    @SpookyMagi2001 2 года назад

    I really miss these days. Was always so wild to me if you went to a Xanadu pm weekly you had to deal with chillin, pink, boss, you. Smashg0d, seagull and more all just for a weekly lmfao. Probs won’t forget going 0-2 at my first smash tourney after my first tourney match was against pink in 3.0 lmao. Real glory days

  • @SmileGayming
    @SmileGayming 2 года назад +2

    please be happier ♥

  • @Dang0thebepis
    @Dang0thebepis 7 месяцев назад

    God damn this brings back good memories

  • @isidoreaerys8745
    @isidoreaerys8745 2 года назад +1

    That mewtwo cry taunt is amazing we need mewtwo cry in the main game

  • @nobodysbusinezz
    @nobodysbusinezz 2 года назад

    you forgot to mention backair-saur and cracked sonic, but I liked this. this was the era that got me back into the smash and PM is still my preferred game because I just love Wario so damn much.

  • @medicfdumbo
    @medicfdumbo 2 года назад +1

    Lucas was really fun! I played him a lot at a play & trade a lot back when those were a thing.

  • @SharonisCarin321
    @SharonisCarin321 2 года назад +1

    Junebug off topic question, but if Diddy Kong came to the 64 Mod Smash Remix would you play that Competitively?

  • @jacobmiller5309
    @jacobmiller5309 2 года назад

    That’s why I only use pro controllers or solo wiimotes. Fire video again like always

  • @zechariahcaraballo8765
    @zechariahcaraballo8765 2 года назад +1

    I cant wait for switch modding to take off and get some sort of project m for ultimate's massive roster

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez 2 года назад

    Shout out to Ivysaur my mans held it down in PM before PT came back in ult

  • @Apocralyph
    @Apocralyph 2 года назад +2

    I remember watching PM sometimes at majors back in the day. Shit was broken af.

  • @JbrockPony
    @JbrockPony 2 года назад

    Damn… didn’t think I needed this nostalgia today 😭

  • @brucebarnette8631
    @brucebarnette8631 2 года назад +2

    yo i still have 3.02 on my sd card

  • @BreakDowning
    @BreakDowning 2 года назад +1

    Great vid as always. Got into pm during 2.6 and the heady days of 3.02 wall of Din's Fire mines made me into the degenerate Zelda main I am today. PM is dead; long live PM

  • @ori.g4mi
    @ori.g4mi 2 года назад

    Very fond memories of playing this with my best friend on my hacked wii at day and watching m2k vs sethlon on a slow laptop at night with greasy dorito fingers

  • @hisnameiskish4874
    @hisnameiskish4874 2 года назад +1

    3.0.2 was literally the best iteration. every character was just broken and it was super fun to both watch and play

  • @MaxCoplan
    @MaxCoplan 2 года назад +3

    Hot-take: part of me feels like Emukiller is really the GOAT of PM. Why? Because when PM was biggest, Emukiller was the best.
    Note: It was PM that first got me into competitive Smash, so I was a moron back then. But I remember m2k complaining that Emukiller was getting carried by Mewtwo (which he was), but no matter how much he practiced, Emukiller still bodied Armada, Mew2King, and Zero.
    Since I was such a casual back then, and only watched a few majors, I could be totally misremembering the head2head stats of Emukiller vs. the other top players. Which player did have the best track record in the 3.02 days?

    • @cottonmather8146
      @cottonmather8146 2 года назад +1

      Emukiller definitely isn't the goat of PM. He won SKTAR 3 and nothing else. ZeRo has CEO, Zenith, GUTS, TBH4. In the 2nd half of 2014, he just didn't lose

  • @Lampaluile
    @Lampaluile 2 года назад +2

    3.0 was prime smash era

  • @Novaflexgame
    @Novaflexgame 2 года назад

    I remember watching Neon play Lucas all the time back in the day.

  • @heyitsmort7744
    @heyitsmort7744 2 года назад

    Are we gonna get a P+ Event at Genesis 8?

  • @C-531
    @C-531 2 года назад +1

    Don’t forget that 2.5 sonic was broken too I wonder how good 2.5 sonic in project m 3.0

    • @javi994
      @javi994 7 месяцев назад

      Never forget Wizzrobe destroying everyone 😂

  • @liebert234
    @liebert234 2 года назад

    love u junebug love u project m
    peace n love on earth

  • @raulortega3104
    @raulortega3104 2 года назад

    Is PM being played nowdays? I remember back in the day a lot of places use to stream tournaments and it was more common in the community.

  • @h-man1371
    @h-man1371 2 года назад +1

    PM Lucas sounds sick, why couldn't he have been like that Ultimate?

  • @BurnsyRuns
    @BurnsyRuns 10 месяцев назад

    I miss PM. Smash was never the same after it died. When brawlback comes out it will see a glorious comeback.

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn Год назад +1

    Purely as a spectator, i miss 3.0 pit and lucas

  • @CapFlipGaming
    @CapFlipGaming Год назад

    Brawl Minus is still my favorite mod. Every character is amazing and fun.

  • @versutus2699
    @versutus2699 2 года назад +1

    can confirm pit was braindead and I could get away with just dthrow up air spam. The days of seeing constant pm streams give me fond memories
    How would you rate sonic among these oppressive 4? I remember him being quite the menace back then

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken 2 года назад

      I would say top 5 considering that he was top 10 in 3.6, and his recovery and down b were broken in 3.02

  • @y4wnd3r3
    @y4wnd3r3 2 года назад

    3.0 and 3.02 just hit different. 3.6 is probably my second favorite smash game of all time, behind final patch s4. While the top 4 was undisputed, the cast was still pretty solidly balanced and the game just felt good.
    That being said, 3.02 chu kirby needs a spotlight on the channel at some point. If you know, you know

  • @johnleecooper8520
    @johnleecooper8520 2 года назад +6

    its wild to me to see how much our animations and effects have improved since 3.0! 3.0 pit in particular looks so weird lmao

  • @MaxJacks
    @MaxJacks 2 года назад

    Another banger video

  • @belladonna_fox
    @belladonna_fox 2 года назад

    Would love to see you talk about GnW Snake and wolf at their heights

  • @RhyHello
    @RhyHello 2 года назад

    God all I want is a sick Lucas again

  • @crasyman101
    @crasyman101 2 года назад

    Damn junebug is Madien-less. Wild

  • @fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf
    @fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf 2 года назад +1

    Makes me think what the meta game would have looked like if development for PM stopped here.

  • @Solharath
    @Solharath 2 года назад +1

    That awkward feeling when you know Sonic was absolutely bonkers in 3.02 and somehow still managed to not peak into the top 5.

  • @TheLamphinator
    @TheLamphinator 2 года назад

    Honorable mentions: ivy, toon link, metaknight

  • @robertduffin1
    @robertduffin1 2 года назад

    God I wish I was playing competitively during the project m era

  • @ShlivingShleafers
    @ShlivingShleafers 2 года назад +1

    As a Lucas main, I approve of PM 3.0 d-air

  • @NoneNullAnd0
    @NoneNullAnd0 2 года назад +1

    Considering that the low and bottom tiers are at least playable, it's still more balanced than Melee.

  • @K0ombiya
    @K0ombiya 16 дней назад

    This isn’t related to the video, but I really want to stomp on the dawn power wash ducks until they flee from this mortal coil

  • @C-531
    @C-531 2 года назад +1

    Do you think that 3.0 diddy is better than melee fox in your opinion

  • @SuperVada
    @SuperVada 2 года назад +2

    I watched PM tournaments on vgbc, tourney and clash channels. I picked up Wario even more thanks to ReflexWonder, and Lucas cause of Hyperflame, Neon and Pink. Game was fun til Nintendo was like: "no no no Gimr!" Cancel it"