How do aircraft land in fog?!

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2019
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    Have you ever wondered about how Pilots find their way down to the runway in thick fog?
    Can an aircraft actually land by itself and if that is the case, why don't the pilots always auto-Land the aircraft.
    In this episode I will be telling you all about the fascinating world of Cat2 and Cat3 approaches. I will tell you how an ILS works and how the pilots procedures work during this highly sophisticated manoeuvre.
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Комментарии • 837

  • @jezackr3500
    @jezackr3500 3 года назад +52

    Gosh, watching your channel made me look back on one of the flights I was on, and a cold chill runs up my spine. We were landing in Warsaw Modlin about a decade ago, when it was still a tiny post-military airport. It was winter, it was snowing and we were in the cloud for an awfully long time. The plane started to come down for landing and we were still in the cloud - or so I thought. I was sitting next to the window, looking out, so I saw perfectly that when the fog finally cleared, we weren't over the landing stripe. We were about 30 metres over a residential area. I could see the branches on the trees and people below, and the plane suddenly lurched up and climbed back. The pilot, leter, made an announcement that he'd missed the airport due to the fog.
    Back then it was an exciting heh moment. Now I am thinking how close we were to being on a show like this=_=

    • @raquellofstedt9713
      @raquellofstedt9713 3 года назад +2

      Dang, Skippy :-O !

    • @poloska9471
      @poloska9471 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like you were pretty close… lol

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Год назад +2

      Been on many flights but don't get chills from these, rather than informed about hell well these guys are trained.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 5 лет назад +83

    I was in one of these Cat III landing last week. It was freaky. I was on a 737-800 landing in Indy International. The visibility was two feet (I am sure it was more, but that's what it looked like) I could barely see the engine under the wing and I was as close as one can get to it. All the sudden the aircraft begins to flare and the thump of the wheels said we had hit pavement, but with no visual of the ground to provide prospective and scale, it felt like we were plowing into a mountain. Once we came to a stop the whole cabin erupted in cheers and people were visibly relieved, as well as I. Intense

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +32

      Yes, and now you know how it works!

    • @petersteitz200
      @petersteitz200 5 лет назад +5

      Indy has the highest level lighting system. It's got all the bells and whistles. What you see out the side window is not what the pilots see. See my post above. The -800 might have CAT II or III approved. I don't know. What airline was it? I live and fly out of Indy and we did have some heavy fog several weeks ago.

    • @petersteitz200
      @petersteitz200 5 лет назад +4

      I don't know of any commercial aircraft certified for synthetic vision. HUD is approved on certain aircraft and the pilots need special training. The approach charts specify aircrew certification to use that approach.

  • @samuelhara4874
    @samuelhara4874 4 года назад +31

    This man is amazing. I love how clear he is about things he talks about. The best mentor you are Sir.

  • @lyamed
    @lyamed 5 лет назад +231

    Red and green pillows exactly like the position lights! Nice!😃

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +86

      I do what I can! 😂

    • @TacticalSandals
      @TacticalSandals 5 лет назад +21

      I just wish it was a real green pillow instead of one wrapped in a green bath robe :P

    • @dmparkerjr
      @dmparkerjr 5 лет назад +17

      The white chair in the rear completes the set...well done!

    • @TheRealPlato
      @TheRealPlato 5 лет назад +12

      Remember that port wine is red. port lights are red

    • @NetAndyCz
      @NetAndyCz 5 лет назад +9

      @@TheRealPlato I remember that port/left/red are shorter than starboard/right/green

  • @stevanmarinkovic5756
    @stevanmarinkovic5756 5 лет назад +225

    Old joke, aircraft logbook:
    Pilot: Approach OK, auto-land very rough.
    Mechanic: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +47

      😂😂😂

    • @adamw.8579
      @adamw.8579 5 лет назад +12

      Many old aircrafts may autoland when are perfectly trimmed. (In very good weather of course).

    • @stevanmarinkovic5756
      @stevanmarinkovic5756 5 лет назад +23

      @@adamw.8579 Any aircraft will auto land eventually, the question is just how rough... But why not, in still weather, plane with a large ground effect should flare on its own I guess. Kind of.

    • @ronik24
      @ronik24 5 лет назад +14

      Old yoke ;-)

    • @TimothyChapman
      @TimothyChapman 5 лет назад

      Wouldn't this be more like "replace aircraft"?

  • @CKOD
    @CKOD 5 лет назад +31

    I love how a lot of mentour videos I know the basic premise to the answer, but whats given is so much more in depth. The answer could just be "cat 3 autoland and yeet it in" and it would answer most peoples questions. But instead its a full 30 minute show on it.

  • @brucekivi
    @brucekivi 4 года назад +6

    I remember once, years ago, we were returning from Las Vegas to MSP, Minneapolis flying in an L-1011 Tristar. Coming into Minneapolis, it was winter and there was a very low cloud ceiling and a snowstorm. Looking out the windows in the cabin we could only see clouds. I could feel the aircraft descending, I thought we were going to land, then it would shudder a bit and level off. I really wasn’t sure at times if we had touched the runway in a complete fog or if we were just going around again. This happened several times. When we finally did land, we did break through the clouds very low and made a great landing. I think everyone was relieved at that point as it seemed to take forever. This was possibly the most frightening landing I’ve been through at my home airport. MSP does often have problems in the winter with snow, ice, and low clouds.

  • @olly5764
    @olly5764 5 лет назад +2

    red cushion on your port side, Green on your starboard, nice touch!

  • @TheFarmanimalfriend
    @TheFarmanimalfriend 3 года назад +7

    In the late 1960's Merced (California) was totally fogged in for 6 weeks. Castle AFB (six miles north of Merced) launched all of their B-52s, but it was too foggy to land them. For almost a month they had no planes, because of fog!

  • @keithwald5349
    @keithwald5349 2 года назад +3

    The kind of logical, clear thinking and situational alertness that Mentour Pilot emphasizes is really a lesson for pretty much anyone doing pretty much any job or task.

  • @hmmorningrose
    @hmmorningrose 5 лет назад +47

    I was the passenger of an aircraft trying to land in dense fog (about 15 years ago) at Halifax International Airport. I had a window seat and it looked like we were only 10 feet above ground (about to touch down) but suddenly in the last minute, the aircraft unexpectedly made a quick ascent again, and we were directed (by ATC) to Maine, USA! Thankfully the pilot got us safely to Maine and eventually I got home safely. But he told us afterward that he found out in the last minute that we were overshooting the runway (due to poor visibility) so that made them not land at that moment but go up again. He said ATC told him "do not try that again, it is too risky". The airport at that time was under construction and some of the lights were not in operation. With the lights it could have no doubt been possible to do a fog landing that day. Anyway I was grateful that all was well in the end!

    • @lisaschuster9187
      @lisaschuster9187 3 года назад +3

      I never mind a delay due to technical difficulties. Take all the time you need.

    • @trilexfix
      @trilexfix Год назад

      well safety is more important than time once I was landing in Portland in dense fog when we landed I still thought we were still really high up I was surprised when I found out we landed, I thought we were like 5 or 10 mins from touchdown.

    • @misskitty2133
      @misskitty2133 10 месяцев назад

      That’s it, I’m not flying unless he’s the pilot!!!

    • @user-lc3ip4vd9e
      @user-lc3ip4vd9e 9 месяцев назад

      I have landed a few times in Halifax with zero visibility, it can be a little disconcerting. And once recently at St Johns in a WestJet Dreamliner(medical emergency).

  • @Wolfwolveswolf
    @Wolfwolveswolf 4 года назад +3

    This makes me think of a flight from California to Boston (for what it's worth in relation to this topic of discussion), that when we got to Boston we had to circle quite a while. As the visability had to be a 0 visability, remembering how mega low it was. As I was sitting near the window watching out the window, and you could see nothing, and then all of sudden their is the runway with the Jet touching down right then.
    I was pretty impressed with the Pilots, Tower People, Technology, Jet, what was actually done, etc.!

  • @Michael-vl7ti
    @Michael-vl7ti 5 лет назад +6

    A few years back I was on a flight into a regional with heavy fog and the pilot did 4 attempted landings before going around at a few hundred feet before he gave up and did a divert to a major, now I know why - thanks mentour

    • @Valantir
      @Valantir 4 года назад

      wow 4 attempts is a lot (tiring for the pilot) usually you go to the alternate after 2.

  • @cnordegren
    @cnordegren 5 лет назад +456

    Click like if you believe that Mentour Pilot is one of the best youtubers when it comes explaining technical material to average people.

    • @KruddyKamiKaze
      @KruddyKamiKaze 5 лет назад +7

      Shows how well he understands/

    • @funtimenetwork
      @funtimenetwork 5 лет назад +7

      Yeah clicked like cause he's one of the few youtubers that is as good as Captain Joe in explaining technical aviation content. I must say I think Mentour would be an excellent Physics or Mathematics instructor as well.

    • @cnordegren
      @cnordegren 5 лет назад +4

      @@funtimenetwork
      Both are awesome as well as Dutch Pilot Girl

    • @Aviatial
      @Aviatial 5 лет назад

      KruddyKamikaze well he is a pilot lol

    • @simondaughtry4619
      @simondaughtry4619 4 года назад

      I am very average.....

  • @worldtravel101
    @worldtravel101 5 лет назад +57

    doggy is chillin in the background

  • @longforgotten4823
    @longforgotten4823 2 года назад +1

    Flew in to Duluth Minnesota from Minneapolis early October. The pilot said we were at the very edge of regulations stating that we could not even leave the airport in Minneapolis. Let alone, attempt a landing in Duluth because of the dense fog which had accumulated over the city. The dewpoint was 50°F and so was the temperature. The fog was certainly quite thick. As we came in for a landing, I remember seeing halos of light where the runway lights would have been and it was quite distorted. The initial touchdown was a little harder than normal and I think we shook something loose in the landing gear or breaks. When we went to break, there was a loud grinding noise before taxiing. Kind of fun experience to do at 11 o’clock at night.

  • @leo7779x
    @leo7779x 5 лет назад +100

    Ahhh yes... 28 minutes of mentour to finish off the week. What more can you ask for?

  • @scottalanclymer
    @scottalanclymer 2 года назад +3

    Mentour you are very gifted at explaining complex subjects. If I were ever to pursue fixed wing aviation I would literally seek you out and persuade you to be my instructor. Bribes, coercion, blackmail, whatever it takes. But things that spin over my head are my interest for now so you don’t need to worry. I’ll say it again, the professionalism you bring to aviation and the amazing explanations you bring to the curious among us is all so appreciated. Thank you so much.

  • @MultiClittle
    @MultiClittle Год назад +1

    Your dog keeps trying to steal the show! Great video. Beautiful pup.

  • @juhawks37
    @juhawks37 4 года назад +7

    I find your videos amazing and incredibly insightful! I've always had a fascination with flying, though I never pursued it. Last night I was on a flight that landed in pretty dense fog after two go-arounds. It wasn't all that unpleasant to me, though several passengers near me were clearly nervous and unsettled, probably due to how low we were and the ground lights being barely visible from the windows (we were pretty low from what I can tell when he revved the engines and started climbing again suddenly). When I got home I was curious about the technology/procedures that allow you all to land these things in those conditions and ended up finding your video on the go-around procedure, I really enjoyed it and learned quite a bit from that single video. Amazing stuff and technology is incredible to me (I'm a software analyst and tester so I kind of become a total nerd with these things). I ended up watching your channel for about 2 hours and here I am again the day after watching more! You are a very, very good communicator and are clearly an expert in your profession. Looking forward to watching more and more.

  • @DidivsIvlianvs
    @DidivsIvlianvs 5 лет назад +5

    The whole female side of my next door neighbor's family, mother, wife & daughter, was wiped out in an attempted mountaintop landing in fog at Charleston WV, August 10, 1968, Piedmont flight 230. Lifting fog covered only the lower end of the runway. The Fairchild 227 commuter from Louisville via Cincinnati hit just short of the mountaintop at 8:58 AM and bounced onto the runway or next to it in flames. Initially there were 6 survivors of 37 on board but 4 died in the hospital within 2 days. 2 of 32 passengers received only minor scratches as they were thrown clear of the burning fuselage. Contributing was that the instrument approach beacon was out for repairs.

  • @petersteitz200
    @petersteitz200 5 лет назад +1

    You do a great job explaining to non instrument rated aviators.
    Back in the 60's in the Air Force, we had the GCA approach where a ground controller gave us very detailed instructions on the approach. Minimums were 1/4SM. Then came the ILS with minimums of 200' 1/2SM. For a time, we had both.
    The 5 seconds prior to either continuing or going missed is a learned skill. It is real time. There is no way to slow down what is about to happen. The CFR's (USA) clearly state what is necessary to continue. You need to clearly identify the approach lights or the red sidebar lights, the threshold, RAILS and or VASI/PAPI and then the threshold. In commercial aviation, there is no more 200'. It is just an altitude where you make the decision. All you need is the required visibility and today, it is usually RVR. When complying with the CFR's, you can descend another 100' after reaching the missed approach altitude if the above can be identified.
    In today's major airports you will also have high intensity runway lights, touchdown zone lights and centerline lights.
    Air carriers that have CAT II, III training are in their own world.

  • @apache1120
    @apache1120 3 года назад +4

    Reminds me of my experience going on vacation. I cant remember if it was Caribbean airline or dynamic airline. It was flt from jfk to geo on feb 20 2015. Pilot attempted around 5x times to land and aborted because of the fog.
    It was torture for me because of all of these air disaster videos I watched. My knees were trembling and the elderly lady next to me knees started trembling too.
    Imagine not being able to see whats going on in front, you can see through the window that ground is getting closer and closer as we came in for a landing and then you hear the engine spooling back up. I am thinking are the engines going to build up full power fast enough.
    This is happening over and over and over. I was hoping the pilot would stop attempting to land and go to the alternate airport before the plane ran out of fuel.
    His final attempt to land at GEO, the pilot announced that the sun has finally did its job and got rid of the fog. Pilot attempted to land again and as usual the engine started spooling back up. This time I felt the plane in the up angle much longer than before and I was happy because I knew the pilot was going higher because he was leaving the area.
    The pilot came on the pa and announced we were going to our alternate airport which was Trinidad. It seem like I was the only passenger that was happy with that announcement. Passengers were complaining how their plans got ruined, they rides are waiting for them, they have funeral to go to etc.
    The plane landed in Trinidad and I was the only one clapping on touch down.
    I turn to the flt attendant when I was getting off the plane and I told her that I was glad we came to the alternate. She agreed and said what is wrong with these people ( which simply mean why were they upset because we had to go to our alternate in a emergency situation)

  • @AnonYmous-rw6un
    @AnonYmous-rw6un 5 лет назад +1

    Was a passenger on a transatlantic flight which made a very late go around when flying into a suddenly-foggy Dublin last year. Had to hold while they went into lo-vis procedures. Thanks to watching Mentour and Joe, I wasn't surprised.

  • @SwaFixer
    @SwaFixer 5 лет назад +12

    Great video! A maintenance related question from the US. If any portion of the CatIII system is disturbed for maintenance, etc., in the US a CatIII certified mechanic must do a recertification of the system before the aircraft can perform CatIII approaches. Is this required in Europe? I am a CatIII certified mechanic with Southwest Airlines and always curious about the rest of the world.

  • @rodp1984
    @rodp1984 3 года назад +1

    This video helped me a ton in Flight Sim 2020 in the 787-10. Thank you!

  • @pedrosmith4529
    @pedrosmith4529 5 лет назад +4

    Lots of fog here in Zaragoza LEZG, it's amazing hearing a huge aircraft landing when you can't even see it.

  • @rtel123
    @rtel123 4 года назад +2

    Brought to mind a cartoon from one of my favorites, Gary Larson, "the far side". Pilot to co-pilot, "hey, what is a billy goat doing in a fog bank?"

  • @furqy3849
    @furqy3849 3 года назад +4

    Mentour: talking into camera
    The dog behind him: *what is this sorcery*
    0:45

  • @kenaston4220
    @kenaston4220 3 года назад +1

    Wow, that is so much more complicated than I imagined. I presumed that there was a button marked auto land and that was it!

  • @EveryTipeOfVideo
    @EveryTipeOfVideo 5 лет назад +60

    Wow!! Nice video, in no matter of time I will become a certified 737 pilot by watching your videos!! 😁😊

  • @zbyszekz77
    @zbyszekz77 5 лет назад +14

    Gdansk Airport (GDN) has Cat II ILS. And actually there were problems with ILS September last year - system lost its calibration because of birds. Swarm of birds landed frequently on ILS antennas and got the system damaged. So they switched to Cat I. Polish air traffic authority has to rebuilt damaged systems and certified it again. Unfortunately they have to disable whole ILS for one week and depend for that week on VOR/DME. And I think Cat II should be working again.

  • @galas455
    @galas455 5 лет назад +3

    Good to see you again, your teaching method is relatively easy to understand. I'm a private pilot. I didn't know the Boeing aircraft could auto land. Landing zero, zero must be stressful but you seem comfortable with it. Thanks How often do you have to do a missed approach?

  • @Slyze33
    @Slyze33 5 лет назад +5

    This parst year or so, I personally feel like you have improved the quality of the videos :-)
    I hope this trend means you are to stick around and keep this educational job for more years

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +5

      Thank you! That’s great to hear. I always try to get better and I will try to be here as long as you guys want me to.

  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit 5 лет назад +1

    @mentour pilot. besides the silly but honest reference, I made below about the what you are wearing, I must admit that your example of trim on the "go-around" is not too different from the Older Mooney M20C we fly with a Garmin WASS GPS and a three-axis autopilot. As we are making an ILS or a GPS WASS straight in approach, our autopilot is doing the same as you describe on your 737. The autopilot's pitch trim actuators are connected to servos in the wings and empennage of the airplane.
    In other words, as the autopilot is set for an ILS or a GPS straight in approach, the pitch trim on the autopilot will show the pilots a signal that shows "trim up or trim down". As we follow the autopilot by keeping our hands on the control wheel of the old Mooney, we are ready to disconnect the autopilot at the 200 ft minimum foot agl altitude point. But since the trim is already set for a "go around" moment, we must be able to use human force to counteract the force of the go-around trim already set into place when we disconnect the autopilot.
    From what you are telling us, the more advanced systems on the Boeing are not much different in theory form the Garmin set up we have installed in our Mooney. That means us younger Mooney/ Bonanza pilots who depend on the Garmin WASS and the autopilot system are not too far off from learning how to fly your big birds. Which btw, might be easier to fly than our little "tweety pies". LOL.

  • @GodGotHigh
    @GodGotHigh Год назад +6

    Landed in dense fog yesterday, people literally screamed cos they hadn't realised we'd landed and thought something had gone wrong!! The fact that we had just been told to completely switch off electronic devices, familiarise ourselves with the safety card again, and make sure to leave everything behind if we're asked to emergency evacuate, certainly didn't help!!
    I had a window seat and was just about able to see the ground lights. We literally entered a cloud expecting to exit the other side and never did, the cloud was level with the ground 😂 I used to be terrified of flying, soooo glad I'm not anymore because I would not have handled that well at all

  • @NetAndyCz
    @NetAndyCz 5 лет назад +1

    Of course aircrafts can land on its own, I know there was some Cessna pilot who suffered CO poisoning and fell asleep/passed out and when he run out of the fuel the plane landed rather neatly on some field or pasture because the autopilot could not keep the altitude any longer but it kept the speed. He was awoken by someone trying to get inside to check if he was alright.

  • @nomore6167
    @nomore6167 Год назад +1

    As a non-aviation person, I would say one good reason for having the pilots do the landing (rather than the aircraft landing itself) most of the time is because you want the pilots to have that frequent experience. You don't want to find yourself in a situation (especially one with a high potential risk) where the pilots have to perform a function they rarely do because that's the type of scenario which can easily lead to mistakes (especially when things are happening quickly or when there are a lot of steps), regardless of training.

  • @ShinichiroKururugi
    @ShinichiroKururugi 5 лет назад +3

    Your videos inspire me to try flying this summer! I'm going to go take an intro flight at my local airport!

  • @samerhaddad280
    @samerhaddad280 5 лет назад

    mentour, now I can see why a pilot prefers to land without the auto-land if it's not needed, so many different parameters involved that it's actually safer to have the pilot himself land the plane if conditions allow it. thanks again mentour.

  • @vaderpt
    @vaderpt 2 года назад +1

    One of the latest fights I went from Munich to Porto, I said. Thanks we have ILS. We could not see anything when we landed. I was on the tarmac and I had very difficult to see the plane just parked on the side of the one I just arrived.

  • @chrischolewa9104
    @chrischolewa9104 4 года назад +1

    your technical terms translated to average person like me are fantastic ! It makes me appreciate flying-even more ! Thanks-Mentour Pilot !

  • @tomclark6271
    @tomclark6271 5 лет назад +4

    Very informative, once again you nailed it! In the mid 90's I flew a 37 Jurassic simulator, shooting manual approach and landing scenarios at a HUD developer's facility using their new state of the art HUD. Head-up displays were supposed to be the hot ticket for the future. What happened? Were they simply deemed redundant to the already widely used auto land systems? I was surprised at how simple it made the approach and landing, and I nailed it every time, even landing in 0-0 and below minimum RVR.

  • @madzdiaries3757
    @madzdiaries3757 4 года назад +1

    I'm so amazed the way you explain the technical side of how the aircraft works in different aspects in takeoff and landing. All your videos are great! Thank you for sharing. It helps me a lot to overcome this fear of flying. 😊

  • @xykkyx
    @xykkyx 5 лет назад +34

    @Mentour can you please tell us in a video someday about fueling logistics and costs? Who pays for refuel? Are there big differences between airports when it comes to fuel costs? Does the airline receive some sort of invoice after refuelling? Thanks!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +15

      Good suggestion!

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 5 лет назад +16

      For major carriers, there’s contract fuel, Air BP for example, at every airport they serve, the contractor will fuel the aircraft, make a note of the fuelling, and then send a bill off to the company. The giant companies have signed multi year contracts that set a price they will pay for fuel, regardless of what the retail rate may be. If the rate goes down during the contract, the fuel company is happy, the airline is not. Now Southwest Airlines in the US had a massive contract for fuel that ensured very cheap fuel. Much to their amusement, prices skyrocketed, they kept their expenses down, ticket prices low, and competitors were at a disadvantage. For smaller airlines, or at destinations where there is not the massive contractor, fuel prices may vary, like remote islands, where the airline must pay the retail rate, which may be well in excess of what they would pay at the main hub at contract rates, or at another airport where fuel is just cheaper. Occasionally it is actually more profitable to fly to the airport with enough fuel to return to the larger airport, given raised price for fuel at the remote field (now I’m almost positive i’ve seen a video on this exact topic). Anyways, after fuelling, the invoice would be sent off to the airline from the fuel company, or more likely, added to a monthly invoice. The cockpit crew would get at least part of this invoice, since they need to know fuel in Pounds or Kilos (and perhaps gallons or litres) for flight planning and weight balance (not that this wasn’t already planned by the dispatcher well in advance). At really small airports, or small airlines, the air crew may be given a company fuel card to purchase fuel on site (think regional/bush airlines in northern Canada somewhere) but again, an airline of any decent size would have contracts lined up at the destinations they serve. In a case of diversion or emergency, where contracts are not set up, then the issues may pop up, but that’s an issue between the people in the fancy offices with a lot more numbers in their paycheques than ours, and the local fuel company.

    • @xykkyx
      @xykkyx 5 лет назад +3

      @@jaysmith1408 thank you for the details!

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 5 лет назад

      xykkyx always welcome

    • @mikecowen6507
      @mikecowen6507 5 лет назад +2

      @@jaysmith1408 Captain Joe video...

  • @rleeAZ
    @rleeAZ 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you captain, best explanation of cat 3 I have heard!

  • @SimonSNB
    @SimonSNB 5 лет назад +4

    Watching your videos makes me remember why I want to be a pilot in the near future

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +2

      Excellent! That’s what I was hoping for!

  • @ThePowerofJames
    @ThePowerofJames 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks Petter! I remember landing in Gatwick (as a passenger) in pea soup thick fog, and it scared the crap out of me, a much as I don't like automation this helps big time!

  • @wrk101
    @wrk101 5 лет назад +2

    Great video. That was a nice in depth explanation of CAT approaches.

  • @MrNess2911
    @MrNess2911 5 лет назад +1

    AWESOME EXPLANATION!
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

  • @galearobert1289
    @galearobert1289 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for all the information. I will be starting the flight academy in March 2019. I cant wait. Thanks again and have good flights :)

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +3

      Excellent! See you inside the app if you need help and support!

    • @ernodios
      @ernodios 4 года назад

      I can't even apply because my color vision is not 100% perfect 😩

  • @eg2580
    @eg2580 3 года назад +2

    Thanks heaps for all these videos. They are so interesting and you're amazing at explaining things.

  • @troberts2009
    @troberts2009 4 года назад +1

    One of my favourite videos along with the Stab trim failure video! I've been binge watching lol.

  • @TheCracker94
    @TheCracker94 5 лет назад +1

    I really liked this one!! I didn't know that planes couldn't taxi close to the runway. I worked on safety critical systems and found all the redundancy and procedures super interesting!!
    I love this stuff because you go way beyond the actual CAT landing procedure and explain the whole context.
    Thank you!!

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 3 года назад

      The reason why this is the case is exactly the same reason that primary radar works, pretty much any dielectric boundary (that is to say anywhere mediums with different dielectric constants meet) will result in some radio waves being reflected. The strength of the reflection depends on many factors like the frequency, the thickness of each medium, the difference in dielectric constant between each medium etc. This is, however, a problem for anything that relies on precise timing, phase measurement or similar to operate as it results in multipath echos ie the receiver will be bombarded with many copies of the signal each displaced in time and phase from the true signal. You can even experiment with this somewhat yourself gps receivers will tend to be more accurate in say the middle of a clear open field than in the middle of an urban area particularly one with lots of tall steel-framed buildings etc and multipath echos are part of the reason as your GPS receiver relies on precisely timing multiple radio signals with sub-nanosecond precision so having the strongest copy of the signal randomly change from the true (direct signal) to the reflection off some random building.
      This and the fact the GPS signals are broadcast by satellites is why tall and steel framed buildings are worse for accuracy it is relatively easy to pick out the true signal if you have a clear line of sight to the transmitter. In that case, it is highly unlikely the true signal as any reflection will generally be much weaker as it will only have been attenuated by atmospheric scattering (baring some form of external rf interference, a jammer for example). The problems arise when the true signal is itself attenuated by encountering other mediums too then the strongest signal may well be a reflection particularly if the reflecting object is large, close to either the transmitter or receiver or worse both, and a good electrical conductor the more likely this is also.
      For those reasons aircraft which are covered in metallic surfaces and in the case of commercial aircraft are generally rather large would be particularly problematic. They would certainly not be something you would want to have positioned close to either the transmitting antenna or receiving antenna. Thus the end of the runway would be the worst possible place to have them as the ILS transmitting antennas must by necessity be positioned close to the end of the runway. Worse still the interference they create would actually grow exponentially worse the closer the landing aircraft came to the interfering aircraft. It goes without saying that for an ILS this is the exact opposite of what the system needs to achieve, the greatest position is required when the aircraft is closest to the runway, which is precisely when aircraft holding to depart on the taxiway at the departure end of the runway would reflect the strongest interfering signal. Worse it is also the time when the aircraft holding at the hold line in the #1 position is most likely to block the line of sight between the ILS and the receiver as it's angular size is at it's largest and thus so is the obscured area of the field of view. This would create the ideal conditions for a reflection to overpower the true signal and trick the ILS on the aircraft into locking on to the wrong signal and thus miscalculating its position at the most critical moment whether a reflection from another part of the aircraft blocking the main signal or even more likely a second aircraft holding behind that one (as more of that aircraft that the antenna can see is exposed to the receiver).

  • @geezer652
    @geezer652 5 лет назад +1

    In aviation I have been in two near-death situations, one of them would be directly related to this video, a missed approach.
    And I was on the ground not in the involved aircraft (B737). The other turning final to landing the pilot got a little too aggressive and started to stall the aircraft (DC9). Thank all the Deities we were high enough he was able to recover and land safely. (reference Fairchild AFB B52 incident, same scenario less catastrophic). Since then, '60s & '70s, I drive, walk or don't go. My way of thinking the third time may not be the charm, so I stay on the ground.
    Thank You for the very informative videos, keep them coming.

  • @Muck006
    @Muck006 2 года назад +6

    I am just wondering if there is a possibility to create an "artificial visibility system" which is included in some cars ... but which has additional help from the ground by them using special lighting systems which are not hindered by the fog. It should obviously be used to "just give a few hints as to the general position of the runway".

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 года назад +3

      Yes, those type are being developed, called artificial vision. You have them on the newest private jets for example.

  • @plasmaburndeath
    @plasmaburndeath 5 лет назад +2

    Yay I finally got through all your videos so this one seemed to take forever to wait for lol :p great video as always.

  • @kuyag68
    @kuyag68 5 лет назад +4

    Another great technical video!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +1

      Great! I’m happy you like them!

  • @LalaRanj1
    @LalaRanj1 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you, as always, great video

  • @myideas8548
    @myideas8548 Год назад +1

    This was such a well detailed and well explained episode. Bravo!

  • @TheTiscalina
    @TheTiscalina 5 лет назад

    Good job, Petter!! thank you!

  • @andrewfiroozi556
    @andrewfiroozi556 5 лет назад +8

    i like how you explane things.

    • @PatKittle
      @PatKittle 4 года назад

      He's just playin'.

  • @tbterrorist
    @tbterrorist 5 лет назад

    Another great video, loving Joe's update to the theme!

  • @mrslyslyf
    @mrslyslyf 5 лет назад

    Amazingly precise, interesting and constructive informations. Of course, as always!

  • @ErynnWilson
    @ErynnWilson 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, as always. All your hard work shines through. You must be a Superman. And, the new end-theme is fantastic! 😃

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад

      Thank you! That’s awesome to hear!

  • @fft2020
    @fft2020 5 лет назад

    Great video ! Great explanation !
    You are a fabulous human being Mentour ! Very professional, very competent
    We feel safe with guys like you in the cockpit

  • @ameliaqian4807
    @ameliaqian4807 5 лет назад +1

    Wow love the new theme music. Goes so well with the channel.

  • @wesleyhurd3574
    @wesleyhurd3574 5 лет назад +1

    0:46 The dog is excited about that 2 months free membership deal 😊

  • @MosesIsrael-mn9cj
    @MosesIsrael-mn9cj 5 лет назад +1

    love it. i helped so much for my RNAV ATPL

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад

      Excellent! Best of luck my friend.

  • @DavidHerrera-gw5iv
    @DavidHerrera-gw5iv 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing as always! Very interesting!

  • @JohnDoe-uj7wo
    @JohnDoe-uj7wo 3 года назад +3

    About 2 AM in Jan-Feb 1969 I found myself on the end of a 14000 ' Rwy 23 at Fairchild AFB. I was operating a snow blower on the end of the overrun. The runway was closed due to heavy fog and heavy snow that morning so we were sent to clear snow from behind the lights as the snow plows tried to clear the runway. One of the plows was equipped with a radio to the tower. The incident started for me when I began hearing a strange noise. After checking the gauges of both engines I rolled down the window to see if I could hear where the noise was coming from. I didn't want to wake my more experienced shot gun operator that had operated the first 6 hours of our shift. As the noise increased all of a sudden it became bright as day, you can imagine how strange this was at that time of morning. Seeing a post in the field in front of my blower I noticed a shadow. Looking the opposite direction from the shadow I see two huge lights coming down out of the fog from the sky toward us. Recognizing the KC-135 (707) aircraft coming toward us, amazingly I did not feel fear (I was 19), I realized I could not move and if the huge landing gear hit us it would be over fast, hopefully without pain from the fire. I leaned down looking thru the passenger/shot gun operator window and watched the aircraft land as the other operator awoke. I have often wondered what went thru the pilot and co-pilot's mind as they came out of the fog and saw a 17 ton snow blower about 400 'crossway in front of their touch down point. Turned out the plows were sent off of the runway but they forgot we were out there and The fog was so thick the tower could not see the yellow rotating beacon on top of our snow blower. I was amazing seeing an aircraft that large from that position.

  • @OnceDouble
    @OnceDouble 5 лет назад +1

    Greetings Mentor! One of your best videos definitely! Thank you for such excellent videos. All the best

  • @oumadmike1
    @oumadmike1 5 лет назад +1

    I have heard a lot of rumors around the tendencies of retired military pilots flying commercial versus those who went through a civilian training. I would appreciate your thoughts on ex-military pilots, and if there is any difference.

  • @TMccrury
    @TMccrury 5 лет назад +1

    As always, a great video with a lot of technical information, explained in such a way for us to understand.

  • @Markle2k
    @Markle2k 5 лет назад

    Fantastic episode. This did more than answer questions it illustrated the answers.

  • @williamfacey1173
    @williamfacey1173 5 лет назад +1

    You do such a great job with these videos. Consummate professional.

  • @muttefur
    @muttefur 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent video! You are so didactic and easy to understand.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад

      Great! See you in the app my friend!

  • @BrianThorstad
    @BrianThorstad 5 лет назад +2

    Loved it!! Great technical detail, including differences between various procedures and why autoland is not always done. Liked video at end of the new music, artistic. Also using the hand pointer icon to highlight areas to focus on was effective. Patrean Brian

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад

      Thank you Brian! You Patreons are invaluable for the channel!

  • @pjm098
    @pjm098 3 года назад +2

    You are an excellent mentor. I am an xplane pilot. I am learning a lot.

  • @artwizz4real
    @artwizz4real 5 лет назад

    Lovely new theme music, by the way...! And a great and insightful video as always.

  • @christopherjohnson3520
    @christopherjohnson3520 4 года назад

    Hello Commander! Nerves of Steel. A long time ago my Ski Club was flying out of San Francisco to Grand Junction, Colorado. We sat there on the plane waiting to take off for over 2 hours. Pea Soup Fog. It Never Lifted. Finally the Pilots decided they had to go. We made the rotation & at a very high elevation we finally broke through. It was Beautiful. Beautiful, Sunny Day. Flying over an Ocean of Fog. We had a Wonderful week of Skiing in Aspen, Colorado. Hey Look! Patxi! Thnx. Your Dogs & I Love to Listen to You Explain how things Work!!!! Your Awesome! CJ

  • @tonysiu8562
    @tonysiu8562 5 лет назад +1

    @Mentour. could you please tell us in a video someday how pilot laneded a jet in OLD Hong Kong Airport which was regarded as one of the most challenging airport in the past? and how we actually read the Approach plate/approach chart?

  • @jwrightonline
    @jwrightonline 5 лет назад +8

    Hm, 8 dislikes within the first 3 hours of the video being uploaded. A video, which is entirely factual and accurately explained. I'd say Mentour Pilot has some stalker'y haters out there. To quote Lady Sovereign, "Love me or hate me, it's still an obsession."
    Thumbs up, MP, good stuff as always.

    • @jackrelaxed4852
      @jackrelaxed4852 5 лет назад

      Superb video. Thorough, comprehensive and detailed. Gives so much more confidence in the guys up front.

  • @robstorms
    @robstorms 5 лет назад

    Fascinating !!! Thanks so much!!

  • @aecvet1906
    @aecvet1906 5 лет назад

    THIS MAN NEVER ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS ! I asked him several times how do pilots adjust the leading edge on the wings, where is the lever in the cockpit ?

    • @clr4tkoff1
      @clr4tkoff1 5 лет назад

      Depends on the airplane. Slats (front of the wing) and flaps (trailing edge of the wing) could be automatic based on AOA, airspeed, etc. or operated by a lever. This lever may be the same as the flaps ("set flap 1, 2, 3, etc.") or it may be a different lever/switch. I imagine if you know what make and model airplane had the slats you're asking about, you could Google it. If you're flying it in a sim or looking at cockpit pictures and can't clearly find a "slat" lever, it could be that they are operated with the flap lever.

    • @joseybarra2046
      @joseybarra2046 5 лет назад

      He answered that in a video he made about flaps

  • @coachwilson5967
    @coachwilson5967 4 года назад +2

    I'm fairly new to your channel. Have you ever done a video explaining if and how an airplane could be landed if both captain and first officer have become disabled or otherwise incapacitated? Could a somewhat educated but non-licensed person actually land a 737?

  • @prathikshshetty9458
    @prathikshshetty9458 5 лет назад +2

    I wanted to know this from a very long time thank you so much

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +1

      Great! I hope it satisfied your curiosity

  • @patricklowe1039
    @patricklowe1039 5 лет назад +2

    Petter no response needed. Once again THANK YOU for your content! Have always wanted to be a pilot, can't do it. You my friend engage/teach me. All I can say is THANK YOU! Aviation is my life.

    • @adrianpeters2413
      @adrianpeters2413 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah, know the situation you are in, the r.a.f. said to me that, yes we will have you in the r.a.f. but you will not even come into contact with any aircraft, ever, . Y eyesight is/was not good enough in any circumstances, still sad after all these yrs, 64yrs now....😣😣😣😣😣😣

    • @patricklowe1039
      @patricklowe1039 5 лет назад

      @@adrianpeters2413 so sorry brother. USN wanted me for fighter due to ASVAB and attitude. We tried moving cargo route but being a dumb teen gave up. Here in USA looking at LSA route. Be well!

  • @briancrawford69
    @briancrawford69 3 года назад

    The area of cal9i live in is NOTORIOUS for super bad fog in winter. Since my city of Fresno is the only major airport in the valley we had one of, if not the first cat 3 systems to test for foggy weather landings

  • @johncavar2914
    @johncavar2914 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent you tube channel and links to apps etc love 💕 it !!
    I hope to digest as much as I can when I have the time ..aviation is fantastic modern passenger airliners and models etc technology..exciting!!🤩🧐🤓😎

  • @maldohh7451
    @maldohh7451 5 лет назад

    Great video and love the new theme music! The animation reminds of the Ian Fleming James Bond intros.

  • @leomarland3471
    @leomarland3471 5 лет назад +5

    Awww Patxi is so cute

  • @biffnarzilla4649
    @biffnarzilla4649 5 лет назад +1

    Great informative video (as usual). Really like the new soundtrack too.

  • @bartrostvoor5326
    @bartrostvoor5326 2 года назад +1

    Hello! Really appreciate your work and movies - amazingly inspiring! I've been on Iceland for last 7 years, always dreamed about flying planes.
    Only thing i did in the matter was to get paragliding license. While watching You talkin about aircrafts i really want to become a plane pilot. Thanx for the effort You put into youtube channel. Love to watch every single episode! Cheers from Reykjavik and keep ... flying!!

  • @JasonGillmanJr
    @JasonGillmanJr 5 лет назад +6

    So out of curiosity (being an instrument rated bug smasher over here in the states), have you noticed any situations where approach procedures are different between, say, the United States and Europe? I figure there probably wouldn't be (something something ICAO something something), but for all I know, dropping down to 100' with the rabbit in sight might not be authorized over there.

    • @BritishBeachcomber
      @BritishBeachcomber 2 года назад

      In the UK we just say fvck the rabbit, one for the pot, luck it'll taste good.

  • @juliakuczera2
    @juliakuczera2 3 года назад +6

    I've witness landing like that today, I was convinced we were still up in the clouds when suddenly plane touched down. I'm scared of flying but this explains it all and because of that I'm less scared. Thank you! :)

  • @mariof9103
    @mariof9103 5 лет назад

    Great topic. Excellent video.

  • @airfoxtrot2006
    @airfoxtrot2006 5 лет назад +1

    Great video Mentour i enjoyed it, hope you have a good weekend.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you! See you in the app!

    • @airfoxtrot2006
      @airfoxtrot2006 5 лет назад

      @@MentourPilot You are welcome, im captainfox on the app, im not a pilot but i like calling myself captainfox hehe!

  • @AkiraAkiyama
    @AkiraAkiyama 5 лет назад +5

    0:47 Looks like your dog is interested in the Premium account.

  • @rogerhargreaves2272
    @rogerhargreaves2272 5 лет назад +3

    Very informative. I love the little dog! Bless!