Boeing 737NG Terrain Escape manoeuvre!! - Cockpit Video (FFS)

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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    In todays video I will explain how to do the Terrain Escape Manoeuvre, straight from the cockpit!
    I will show you live video from inside a Boeing 737NG simulator where I, together with my colleague, will demonstrate how to do a correct Terrain Escape manoeuvre.
    We will narrowly escape the mountain top, so stay tuned it gets VERY EXCITING!
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  • @adrianpad
    @adrianpad 5 лет назад +1506

    That was nerve-wracking!! Balancing been very near crashing and stalling at the same time!! I was on the edge of my seat!

    • @IMGuapo-dg1hu
      @IMGuapo-dg1hu 5 лет назад +9

      Adrian Padilla Vega
      Gripping it without hands until safe. lol

    • @mikebelanger4165
      @mikebelanger4165 4 года назад +19

      @BBB H I've had the privilege of 'flying' an ERJ (Embraer 145LR) full-motion simulator in Houston, TX. (I'm only a Student Pilot, never got my pilot's certificate, by the way, but enjoy using the home sims). They're so realistic, you don't really know you're NOT in a real aircraft!

    • @-DC-
      @-DC- 4 года назад +3

      Awesome content everytime 👊

    • @milesaharrison
      @milesaharrison 4 года назад +34

      It's amazing how much better the A320 is in this sort of scenario. You can pull full back sidestick and not worry about hitting the stall every 3 seconds. Full back will mean maximum climb performance without thinking about it although I'm sure it's more fun to do on the 737 (in the sim!)

    • @julianbrelsford
      @julianbrelsford 4 года назад +9

      I'm just curious, do pilots hear the landing gear extending and retracting in flight? If so, is the sound reproduced for you in the simulator?
      I know as a passenger on commercial flights (mostly some type of 737, if I recall correctly) I've often been able to hear when the gear are going up / down.

  • @ZygalStudios
    @ZygalStudios 2 года назад +236

    Man that "terrain terrain PULL UP!" warning is terrifying.
    It's unbelievable how fast that can happen.

  • @bbwarwick
    @bbwarwick 4 года назад +996

    I’m not a pilot... Why am I addicted to these videos?!

    • @ApprendreLangues
      @ApprendreLangues 3 года назад +81

      Same here... no interest in ever being a pilot, but I love Mentour's channel!

    • @paulasinclair6289
      @paulasinclair6289 3 года назад +41

      I"m no pilot either, never will be, but I love watching these videos!

    • @mateope10
      @mateope10 3 года назад +24

      no pilot either, actually afraid of flying, but I do love flying around in simulators, maybe that's why I love mentour's videos

    • @josephherron7671
      @josephherron7671 3 года назад +9

      Me neither. But I have flown before with a friend who has his CFI. One day I'll have my license.

    • @TheYacu
      @TheYacu 2 года назад +11

      Same... I haven't even been on a plane for 10 years. But those videos are so fascinating.

  • @stefanmodigh7897
    @stefanmodigh7897 3 года назад +588

    What you don't want your co-pilot to say: Oh, that's a funny looking cloud with a ski lift on it...

    • @awayfarer6813
      @awayfarer6813 3 года назад +7

      Lol! Underrated comment!

    • @xenowerks7020
      @xenowerks7020 3 года назад +7

      Brilliant!

    • @ddichny
      @ddichny 2 года назад +62

      There's a Gary Larson "Far Side" cartoon that shows the inside of a cockpit, and one pilot says to the other, "What's a mountain goat doing way up here in a cloud bank?"

    • @toniownez
      @toniownez 2 года назад +2

      Frankie Boyle

    • @wesleyhurd3574
      @wesleyhurd3574 2 года назад +10

      I think that in real life what the first officer said would be terrifying in poor visibility conditions. "That's not the runway, that's a highway." Especially when it is followed by the GPWS terrain warning.

  • @donaldcarpenter5328
    @donaldcarpenter5328 2 года назад +7

    The pilot monitoring's voice pitch went UP and he KNEW he was in a simulator. That's REALISTIC!!!

  • @joesterling4299
    @joesterling4299 5 лет назад +720

    The hills are alive, with the sound of TERRAIN! PULL, UP!

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 5 лет назад +50

      Caution yodelling... Caution yodelling.

    • @georgemartin1436
      @georgemartin1436 4 года назад +4

      LOL!

    • @jomac841
      @jomac841 4 года назад +3

      Joe Sterling oh sweet Jesus lol

    • @PuFu_Channel
      @PuFu_Channel 4 года назад +6

      what is that two turning "wheels" on the thrust console??) with white marks)

    • @georgemartin1436
      @georgemartin1436 4 года назад +12

      @@PuFu_Channel Trim control. They move the elevator assembly up and down to reduce the pilot's physical burden...basically makes the plane easier to fly...

  • @GoCoyote
    @GoCoyote 3 года назад +344

    I know this is a simulation, but this had me on the edge of my seat. I can see how important it is to respond IMMEDIATELY to the terrain warning. Whew! Hope my heart rate slows down soon.

    • @MrVenona
      @MrVenona Год назад +4

      More exciting than the last Star Wars movie! And much more entertaining. 😀

  • @john2000l
    @john2000l Год назад +103

    You did something in the simulator that I truly appreciated. You allowed the simulator to create every condition, and you reacted as though it was a real event. You could tell from the inflection in your voice, and how you were handling the controls. If every pilot treated the simulator as a near life experience, then you have a chance to save yourself, the plane, and your passengers. Extremely well done for you and your co-pilot. You folks both handled the CRM with real professionalism.

    • @jillcrowe2626
      @jillcrowe2626 Год назад +6

      I think that may be why fighter pilots made great commercial pilots. Their lives regularly depended on flying while evading other aircraft that were shooting at them.

    • @raptor747-8
      @raptor747-8 3 месяца назад +1

      Every sim session is a near death experience. They are very stressful, full on and your job is on the line. Fail a check twice and you could lose your job. It’s by no way a box ticking exercise. I have known pilots who have suffered severe anxiety getting into a sim, including sweaty palms, tightness of breath and even vomiting. That’s why we call it the torture chamber.

  • @deanfowlkes
    @deanfowlkes 4 года назад +230

    For all those asking why not turn away from the rising terrain, that should have been done before it became an emergency. Humans have a startle response whether we like it or not. It is sort of like a deer in the head lights. You will lose precious seconds at the beginning of the alarm recognizing there is a problem, evaluating what bad is going to happen, choosing what to do and where to go, and doing it. The only way to combat this is to train into each pilot an automatic reflex. An example of this is if you hear the stall warning, you automatically push the yoke and the throttle forward and equalize the ailerons. Once you are not stalling, level the wings and gain altitude.
    Pulling up at the best climb performance is the best reflex to train in this scenario. Banking sharply in a steep turn during an emergency would cause the nose of the aircraft to dip down below the horizon into a dive. Pulling back on the yoke during the bank would cause the aircraft to stall. Banking the aircraft during a stall would cause the aircraft to yaw and spin. The result would be a spiraling dive into the ground even if you avoided the mountain or high terrain.
    Plus, even in VMC, the field of view out of an airliners cockpit is not the best. It is not like a Cessna 172. The only safe direction to go is up.

    • @cristiana9713
      @cristiana9713 3 года назад +12

      Thanks for clearing this up.

    • @emergencylowmaneuvering7350
      @emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 года назад +2

      Nope.. Pulling up is exaggerated in a real emergency. And most will stall the airplane. Turn away from the Gorilla..

    • @DouglasHodgson
      @DouglasHodgson 2 года назад +2

      That was my question. Thanks!

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 2 года назад +25

      @@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Did you even watch this video? The correct response to a hard GPWS alarm is to climb as quickly as possible. A sudden turn or bank is NOT correct.

    • @MrThomassch
      @MrThomassch 2 года назад +1

      Still I am wondering, if turning away would not sometimes be better. The computer could calculate it quickly depending on the current weight and thrust. But ok, if I ever fly myself, it is a single prop, not a multi engine jet (fighter). In 20s I have easily turned 180°, but not climbed even 1000 feet.

  • @FlightX101
    @FlightX101 5 лет назад +786

    For the “Just Bank” team. Remember that under this emergency you may have no idea where the terrain actually is in relation to your aircraft.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +323

      Thank you

    • @reinhardulbricht1131
      @reinhardulbricht1131 4 года назад +23

      Havent we´v been told, that the EGPWS-system combines a global map (heights/depths of all terrain) with the planes position, given in real time by GPS?

    • @audigex
      @audigex 4 года назад +150

      Reinhard Ulbricht sure... but clearly something has gone wrong with your situational awareness in order to be heading toward a mountain in the first place

    • @jeffreylebowski4927
      @jeffreylebowski4927 4 года назад +37

      Thats not entirely true - we know its not behind us and we know its somewhere infront of us, we also know its 20 seconds away - thats enough time to make a 90° turn... - if the terrain was just to the right or left of us, shouldnt the radar have picked it up as behing infront of us earlier? - depending on what the minimum turning radius is, trying to make a 180° turn doesnt seem so unreasonable... just hoping, that the mountain infront has less than a 20° slope is a big gamble and commitment as well... might also help to get a better radar, that warns you 40 seconds ahead of time x)

    • @crimson9328
      @crimson9328 4 года назад +104

      90 degree turn in 20 seconds in a 737? Hope the passengers don't mind pulling G's then

  • @simonboucher7152
    @simonboucher7152 2 года назад +87

    My father, a CAE Airplane simulator engineer, worked specifically on a weird issue with GPWS on Swissair flight coming in on Zurich airport. What happened was that when coming into the airport, the 3 sensor on the airplane, while on final approach and crossing the top of the mountain, they disagree and disconnected the autopilot. It was such a recurring issue and it wasn't reproduce in the simulator, so when he was flighing to Zurich for something else, the pilot recognize his name and asked him to fly in to jumpseat to witness the issue.

    • @pedrops4910
      @pedrops4910 Год назад +2

      Which kind of aircraft ? . Is this still happening? Do you remember which runway it was?

    • @simonboucher7152
      @simonboucher7152 Год назад +7

      @@pedrops4910 Boeing 747-400 I would suppose (it was my father main aircraft) it still does from what I know. But no I don't know which approach/ runway. But it was during the descent.

  • @speed150mph
    @speed150mph 4 года назад +20

    15:02, I wasn’t aware that “shit shit shit shit” was a callout for the 737NG. 🤣 kidding, nicely done if a bit hairy there at the end 👍

  • @frogstamper
    @frogstamper 5 лет назад +207

    Bloody hell that looks stressful, a foggy day you know there is a mountain range out there and then the computer starts calling out "pull up...pull up"....

    • @BetterCallGatto
      @BetterCallGatto 4 года назад +4

      search Cat3 landings

    • @normvargas1314
      @normvargas1314 3 года назад +5

      That would be EVA 15 Heavy out of LAX. Pilots were flying below height of mountains going 400 mph and only pulled up in the last few seconds. They were about 3 seconds from crashing into the very tall transmission towers. I still have not seen anyone do a simulation of this incident.

    • @LemonChieff
      @LemonChieff 3 года назад +3

      Stressful? Lord. I'm just glad I used the lavatory earlier. I nearly shat myself watching.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 4 года назад +57

    14:30 you can see the mountain top outside the First Officers window.

  • @srinitaaigaura
    @srinitaaigaura Год назад +30

    That one moment where the radar altimeter dropped suddenly. It actually showed the flight path into the terrain ahead and you guys were already on the stick shaker.

  • @williamstephens9945
    @williamstephens9945 3 года назад +8

    Omg, you actually survived the terrible "PULL UP!" death warning.

  • @mr.g7968
    @mr.g7968 5 лет назад +334

    As I use RUclips to dose off, damn that was intense... Gonna go have some coffee to calm down to sleep..

    • @shevangomis6432
      @shevangomis6432 5 лет назад +2

      Mr. G lol😂😂

    • @CeerCol
      @CeerCol 5 лет назад +15

      I was thinking the same thing. Simulator or not that was a very intense experience to watch much less perform. Actually performing that maneuver in flight would require quite a bit of time at altitude to recover your breathing and heart rate I think.

    • @gracegiles5462
      @gracegiles5462 5 лет назад +1

      Mr. G 🤣

    • @sunjen11
      @sunjen11 5 лет назад +2

      LOL! Same here.

    • @friendlypiranha774
      @friendlypiranha774 5 лет назад +1

      Mr. G - one of the funniest comments on RUclips😂😂😂

  • @d_kortman
    @d_kortman 5 лет назад +32

    14:58 "Shit. shit, shit, shit ,shit!!" By mentour was scary to hear. He knew that if this was real, he was hanging onto life by his pinky finger

  • @lorrewatkins5925
    @lorrewatkins5925 2 года назад +79

    I can totally relate to that, one time when I was scuba-diving manny years ago, Me and a friend was diving in the baltic sea at a depth of 29 meeters, and it was pretty dark at those depth's especially in the baltic sea, Unbeknownst to us we were starting to drift, because of a small stream current. However We were absolutely sure that We knew exactly where we was. We were totally wrong ! We had lost our situational awareness that almost cost us our lives ! Looking back on that horrible incident became clear that our brain totally fooled Us in an extremely scary way ! And that goas back to what you said Mentour, about loosing situational awareness, regardles whether one scuba-dives, or flying, the brain acts the same way !

    • @houseofhobbies9695
      @houseofhobbies9695 2 года назад +18

      I’m also a diver. I’ve had this happen to me in a hole. Scared the shit outta me. I had to trust my computer for depth and look at my bubbles to tell which way was up. It was terrifying.

    • @KarlHamilton
      @KarlHamilton 2 года назад +5

      Glad to hear you're ok

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab 2 года назад +3

      Lorre thst indeed is as scary and even more dangerous than whst we can imagine.
      Wondering how your friend and you got out of the situstion safely.
      May be you and her/him can make a podcast on that

    • @lorrewatkins5925
      @lorrewatkins5925 2 года назад

      @@sailaab Yea thats a good idea, I'll have to think about it !

    • @martinschwaikert5433
      @martinschwaikert5433 2 года назад +6

      And there's the confirmation bias. You do not look for things that break your expectations, but only that approves them.

  • @meldroc
    @meldroc 3 года назад +12

    I remember hearing the Airbus version of those warnings when watching Sully (both the movie, and the original flight voice recording) - "OBSTACLE! OBSTACLE! PULL UP! PULL UP!" - Sully buzzed really close to the George Washington Bridge just before he ditched that plane in the Hudson. This is definitely the "Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die!" maneuver.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Год назад +2

      Ive watched video on wonder and they often keep you hanging not thoroughly explaining the outcome.

  • @BLACKMONGOOSE13
    @BLACKMONGOOSE13 5 лет назад +70

    That was intense. Watching pros work is inspiring. Thanks Mentour. I love your passion.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +18

      Excellent! Feel free to help me spread the video to others

    • @oluwabusayooyegunwa5764
      @oluwabusayooyegunwa5764 2 года назад +1

      @@MentourPilot Hi, I am curious about something, is it not possible to make a rudder turn away from the problematic portion of the terrain? Is it a must pilots continue their current flight path that leads them into the terrain?

    • @boudewijnj.m.kegels5198
      @boudewijnj.m.kegels5198 Год назад +1

      @@oluwabusayooyegunwa5764 I also wonder why climbing is preferred to turning away from the mountain. With climbing you loose speed and risk stalling, with turning not so much, i guess.

    • @CristalianaIvor
      @CristalianaIvor Год назад +2

      @@boudewijnj.m.kegels5198 ​ @oluwabusayooyegunwa5764 people in the comments anwsered this already:
      1. in such a situation you will be startled, so it's important to have an automatic reflex trained that is very easy. and going up is easy and safe
      2. you could be turning into terrain, also your one wing lowers when you turn - which might hit terrain
      3. turning actually looses you tons of speed and causes you to have to lower the nose (at least a bit) which is not what you want when you try to escape a mountain
      4. also those things are huge, their turning radius is biiiiiig
      if you want the good indepth explanation scroll up :D

  • @diygarygaming
    @diygarygaming 3 года назад +12

    Imagine being a passenger just waking up from your nap, and feel yourself sinking while you hear 14:05 coming from the cockpit.

  • @RogerAlan
    @RogerAlan Год назад +14

    This is, by a huge margin, my favorite aviation video of all time. Not only are we reminded of proper procedures (per this airline), we are shown the best possible version of crew resource management. I hope that no ATP pilot had anything to learn that they didn’t already understand but for the rest of us we can rest easy knowing the skills and rehearsals that go into each and every flight we board are designed to get us home safely. Kudos, Petar.

  • @juliestevens6931
    @juliestevens6931 3 года назад +45

    That was one of the more exciting/hair-raising videos I have seen. Even knowing it was a simulation, listening to the warnings was nerve-wracking! I can see why you would have to have those maneuvers memorized.

  • @mvonsmallhausen3221
    @mvonsmallhausen3221 5 лет назад +241

    Quite a thriller this one, loved the action.

    • @utubewillyman
      @utubewillyman 5 лет назад +1

      It appears that they were about to fly into something grey, but were able to pull the stick back just in time to fly into something else that was grey.

  • @EASYTIGER10
    @EASYTIGER10 5 лет назад +26

    Plane nearly hits mountain...Petter: "..and this is what happens on a good day" lol

  • @nik0tine
    @nik0tine 4 года назад +12

    You and Kelsey's videos have inspired me to seriously consider piloting. 30 and had never even thought about it before other than just being a fan of flying and planes in general.

  • @blackmirror5601
    @blackmirror5601 4 года назад +12

    Bit of a hair-raising experience there. I think about it a lot when passing near the Alps, especially on cloudy days. You can also get pretty intense turbulence coming from the winds passing over the mountain range and that alone is enough to warrant a quick trip to the toilet.
    Thanks so much for sharing this and keep up the good work!

  • @Papershields001
    @Papershields001 5 лет назад +10

    My grand uncle was an instructor in the 40s and died in a CFIT accident. I really hope he never had a chance to be scared, I hope it just happened in an instant.

    • @flagmichael
      @flagmichael Год назад

      It must have been quick enough that he had no time to react meaningfully.

    • @Papershields001
      @Papershields001 Год назад

      @@flagmichael it was at night so probably had no idea. He and a student were in a T6 Texan and must’ve hit incredibly hard. The cause of death on his death certificate says “traumatic disintegration.” So I can only assume.

  • @kperkins1982
    @kperkins1982 5 лет назад +32

    Shew, I know that was a simulation but I was stressed!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +23

      Yes, it’s a terribly stressful maneuver. Please help the channel by sharing it with your friends, it really helps the channel even if no one uses the link

  • @johnbailey5011
    @johnbailey5011 4 года назад +27

    I'm an A&P for one of the big US carriers. I'm in the middle of a 737NG GenFam class. We just talked about this very topic the other day. Super cool to see it from your perspective. We test all that stuff every night (ground prox, stall warning, ect) but now I see what they do first hand. Thanks for the great videos. BTW the right main gear down lock light has a lamp out on the right side. It's the kind of thing a tech notices. :)

  • @erwinschmidt7265
    @erwinschmidt7265 2 года назад +1

    WOW!! Great video!! I'm no pilot as only had 4 lessons. In Wawa Ontario '74 on approach to lake in dense fog, Air Service Owner used engine noise to clear descent. I was in rt seat w/Buddy in back when I shouted "Mountain...THERE", pointing ahead. Pilot said pull back for up & let me know when straight up as need to coax engine. Alive reckoned up, advised Pilot who took control, I advised shear rock face under pontoons, Pilot glanced peeing pants flying up until plane had no more, kicked rudder and dropped down mountain dodging trees & lookin' for airspeed trimming 1 last treetop soaring up into safety of the fog. Pilot radioed Air Service finding owner had abandoned us to take phone call fighting w/wife! When plane handler heard engine noise disappear meaning hadn't cleared last "hill", he tried for Owner's attention but Missus way more important. Owner advised NOW we were clear to settle & land which Pilot did, but still so pissed hit Owner on button, & his head swiveled as tumbled off dock. Pilot indifferent so Plane Handlers jumped in saving Owner's life. Would any of the above be a Terrain Escape Maneuver??

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel 5 лет назад +3

    Hi, Petter! I love your videos a lot! I'm a total avgeek, which is totally my dad's fault. He is USN AMHC, Ret. As you can see by his rank, he was a hydraulics expert. He served two tours in Vietnam, one of them in Da Nang, otherwise known as the Hellhole. After he retired, he went to work for Link Simulations, Inc. He built the very simulators that you use today. As a child , my toys were Tomcats, Intruders and Corsairs(better known as People Eaters)- the REAL ones. Navy families were invited out to the hangars on a regular basis for family functions, and we kids were allowed to crawl all over the planes and play with them(they were disabled of course.) This just cemented my love of flying. Sadly, I was not able to follow in my dad's footsteps, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying commercial flying, even if I can't be a pilot.(I'm physically crippled and in a wheelchair) Today's airplanes are some of the safest in the world, so I'm NOT what you'd call a white-knuckle flyer! I take a very pragmatic approach to it- when your time's up, it's up. Doesn't matter if you're 35,000 feet in the air or just crossing the road to get your mail. And I've already been run over, that's why I'm in a wheelchair. So, I take things as they come.
    Anyway, I like to know how things work, which is why I love your vids. Plus, I'm a Boeing girl- "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!" LOL! Give Patxi a smooch for me. Regards, Val

  • @1daddyDA
    @1daddyDA 4 года назад +11

    I love what you said at the end. In summary executing the Terrain Escape Manoeuvre doesn’t mean you will avoid the mountain but it ‘gives us the best possible chance.’ Now I’m glad pilots flying my Sons around in Europe and beyond are so well trained and that TEM is available. I’ll never forget another video you made where you said in essence ‘never give up fighting and trying to save you and your passengers’ Keep working the problem even if it looks hopeless. When I was working in a call centre I talked to a customer who was an airline Pilot. He told me of a friend and colleague of his who in a military aircraft encountered a fatal structural failure at altitude. Whet just blew me away was that right to the end the pilot gave a running commentary to ATC on what was happening to his aircraft, what his instruments were reading and what he was doing still trying to recover the aircraft. He said his hope was that would help the Air Accident Investigation Branch. Now that is calm, professional and controlled right to the very end. Love your videos and love following your channel. If you are ever in the Norfolk UK area I would love to meet you as I have been an aviation geek since my very early childhood.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Год назад +1

      Thar a great man knowung he will die and still looking out for others.

    • @scriptkiddie4240
      @scriptkiddie4240 Год назад

      Was the military aircraft one that doesn’t have an ejection seat?

  • @Nyan_Kitty
    @Nyan_Kitty 3 года назад +8

    Salzburg airport really is something, snuggling between those mountains 😅 Quite interesting to watch during take off and landing as a passenger

  • @bkailua1224
    @bkailua1224 4 года назад +39

    You make nice videos and lots of good info for the young ones getting into flying. Not near as spooky today as before having the terrain map in front of you. Before the map all we had was Woop Woop Pull up! Spooky 30 years ago back when the 767 was the most high tech with a magenta line and a green arc and most of us were flying by steam gages. Cali Columbia got us the terrain map. I have a better map and terrain info on my android phone today then I had in a DC- 10 in 1989 or when i retired in 2012 on the 767.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Год назад +2

      Woop Woop! Pull up! Brings shivers.

    • @allanbober8441
      @allanbober8441 Год назад

      I'm afraid of air travely but not since I started watching your videos thanks for the expert analysis I too am addicted

  • @RedNightDragon1
    @RedNightDragon1 2 года назад +4

    Nice to have made Lorenzo's acquaintance in this video! I've seen him before several times, but we got the full measure of him here. Great job, the both of you!

  • @wouldntyouliketoknow9891
    @wouldntyouliketoknow9891 Год назад +8

    10:08 "leave the gear down if it was down - in case you dont get clear of the terrain then it might absorb some of the impact" - I'm no pilot but that one seems very sus to me. Getting rid of that drag has to improve your climb performance. And at the same time retracting the gear adds 10 feet or so to your clearance altitude. If the gear hooks terrain it seems like it would pull you in. And if the gear becomes damaged, your eventual runway landing would become more dangerous. I feel like in the balance of things, the insanely unlikely condition where you impact terrain but the gear keeps you from dying doesnt weigh in against the reduced odds of hitting terrain in the first place.

    • @AmigoSecret0
      @AmigoSecret0 Год назад

      Exactly! Gear down doesn't make sense if you need performance.

    • @sonicwave32
      @sonicwave32 Год назад +2

      I've heard that aircraft aren't rated to fly with high flap settings with the gear retracted. If the gear is down it seems likely that you're already on final approach with a high flap configuration, so following this the gear should remain down as the flaps are also left unchanged (as Mentour explained prior to this timestamp). I'm not sure why this restriction exists however (i.e. why the handling characteristics of high flaps and gear up isn't tested, or what problems arose if it _was_ tested), and would like to see more information on it.
      Edit: One other reasoning I've heard before is that the opening of the _gear doors_ will actually temporarily create increased drag until the gear is retracted, though the 737 doesn't have them.

  • @KCLIBURN-mj9qx
    @KCLIBURN-mj9qx 4 часа назад

    Even though this was in a simulator it was still pretty hairy. I too was on the edge of my seat. I love watching these videos where the practicing pros are doing their thing. If you like airplanes and aviation this stuff is addictive.......

  • @6691ecirbaf
    @6691ecirbaf 3 года назад +27

    Very interesting indeed. I was wondering why wouldn't EGPWS give the warning, not as a time before terrain, but rather when the manoeuvre is still possible with a safe pitch. In another word, the higher is the obstacle the sooner the warning to allow for a safe escape

    • @leoinstatenisland
      @leoinstatenisland 3 года назад +1

      I had the same exact question. Is there a reason?

    • @ainsleycarrington
      @ainsleycarrington 2 года назад +6

      It takes too long to process. It is better to memory train "I hear EGPWS numbers, emergency" whereas "maneuver now for avoid terrain" is too much cognitive capacity, when you need to avoid the startle response.

    • @Sukkulents_
      @Sukkulents_ 2 года назад +12

      i think it also comes from the fact that the amount of terrain and distance and speed it would have to check to work out something like that would be immense. the egpws already has a lot to take into account even with the fairly narrow field of ‘what’s 40 seconds in front of me’. ideally though, that would be a good goal for future safety features

  • @Sy-T007
    @Sy-T007 5 лет назад +12

    My God, that was intense. It's best never to get into that situation in the first place. I was on the edge of my seat throughout that...

    • @IMGuapo-dg1hu
      @IMGuapo-dg1hu 5 лет назад +1

      sylatex
      Without hands i was gripping the edge of my seat.

  • @muhammadyounosraz5698
    @muhammadyounosraz5698 Год назад +10

    Excellent demo of confronting high terrain and how to overcome the situation

  • @helbent4
    @helbent4 Год назад

    I am glad he clarified that the speed brake was fully retracted at 18:21. This is because he goes over it at first at 8:26 but kind of swallows the word so it sounds like "lower the speed back" instead of "...speed brake". Further, if you don't know that lowering the speed brake retracts it, this is not very enlightening!
    Trivia: the expression "balls to the wall" or going as fast as possible refers to pushing the throttle as far forward to the firewall as possible. The "balls" are of course the knobs on top of the throttle.

  • @ToyotaTechnical
    @ToyotaTechnical 3 года назад +2

    14:48 the "oh, those mountains" expression

  • @NM-lj1iq
    @NM-lj1iq 5 лет назад +42

    I admire pilots so much. You really have to have nerves of steel to do that job. Even the alarm was making me nervous and I'm just watching the video 😂 Safe to say I wont be becoming a pilot any time soon.

    • @rsmith155
      @rsmith155 4 года назад +3

      Nun Ya most of the the time being a pilot is a terribly boring job, these kinds of situations are avoided as much as possible

  • @the_bottomfragger
    @the_bottomfragger 2 года назад +15

    Seeing that mountain (Untersberg) every morning, this video was even more fascinating. Never considered how delicate a south approach in low visibility could be, a navigation mistake is huge trouble considering everything in the south is high mountains. On the other hand it's reassuring because it seems you really had to climb up at such a steep angle and still made it, as narrow as it was.

  • @lonewolf5238
    @lonewolf5238 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow!! I know this was a simulation, but holy hell! Those constant warnings, stick shaker, trying to climb while not stalling.... left me with an elevated heart rate and a chill up my spine. Mad respect for everyone who has "slipped the surly bonds of Earth".

  • @collinmc90
    @collinmc90 4 года назад +10

    I could see this being one of those situations where staying calm is very important but probably also very difficult! all the noise. the confusion of not knowing where you are in the clouds. Very interesting!

  • @chosbach411
    @chosbach411 3 года назад +5

    Even knowing it was a simulation was terrifying to be honest watching this. It's amazing how much training and composure it must take. Nerves of steel. Makes me feel more comfortable as a passenger.

  • @rongjianliang3845
    @rongjianliang3845 3 года назад +16

    Great video! The explanation for not retracting landing gear is quite interesting, and such a maneuver might have increased the air drag on some larger airliner. They have landing gear doors closed after the gears are locked and in order to retract the gear those doors have to be opened again which creates larger air drag. I guess this is also one of the reasons why gears stay in place in the terrain escape maneuver.

  • @macswanton9622
    @macswanton9622 2 года назад +1

    Reminds me of the movie "To Have and Have Not" when the charter fisherman gets hooked up to a big fish, and has his hands full! Most enjoyable. Our host makes a good Bogart :o)

  • @annanymous03
    @annanymous03 Месяц назад

    Watching this from the safety of my flat, years after it happened and knowing it's a simulation, but my heart rate was through the roof there. Knowing what training you guys go through eases my mind about getting on an aeroplane any time soon. Thank you!

  • @neelufisherman574
    @neelufisherman574 4 года назад +3

    Air India lost two Aircraft over Mount Blanc One was a Constellation the Other was a 707.Only recently did they find parts of the wreckage.I watch you channel closely and find it so valuable .

  • @johnopalko5223
    @johnopalko5223 5 лет назад +22

    That was definitely to the point of maximum pucker, there...

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 5 лет назад +6

      John Opalko when you see 113 knots at 20 degrees of pitch lol 😭😵🥶

    • @IMGuapo-dg1hu
      @IMGuapo-dg1hu 5 лет назад +1

      John Opalko
      Hanging onto the seat with no hands. No belt needed.

  • @Schismarch
    @Schismarch 2 года назад +2

    That was definitely intense. I like that the pilot monitoring called bank, too.

  • @raptor747-8
    @raptor747-8 3 месяца назад

    I did this in a sim when I was training in the USA. We did it in cloud out of Aspen Colorado. We then did it again but this time when we were conducting the terrain escape procedure the instructor suddenly removed the cloud so it was clear blue skies and we could see how close we actually were to the mountain. That image of the mountain out of my windscreen will forever be ingrained in my brain. Best training session I have ever experienced.

  • @gcisbani
    @gcisbani 5 лет назад +8

    Wow. Even knowing perfectly that it's a simulation, you feel the urge to take action!

  • @aspunky1
    @aspunky1 5 лет назад +8

    If this simulation included up and down drafts from terrain winds such as rotors, it would really show how deadly this situation is

  • @Vtrontv
    @Vtrontv Год назад +1

    What perplexed me is that the gear is down even at stall speed (It creates a lot of drag), but ofcourse you've made it clear why is it so! Didn't know that we have to take it to the edge of the flight envelope for the escape maneuver that's indeed nerve wracking! Thank you for the video!!

  • @MarionBlair
    @MarionBlair 2 года назад +1

    Very knowledgeable pilot with excellent teaching skills and I like the pup, I bet he knows a lot about aviation.

  • @MattThornton87
    @MattThornton87 2 года назад +5

    Hell, that was stressful to watch even knowing it was a simulator!! Can't imagine what it would be like for a crew in a real world situation. The training & immediate actions could be the difference between life & death. A great insight thank you 😊

  • @shehulsuratwala2684
    @shehulsuratwala2684 5 лет назад +415

    How about escaping to the right or left side while pitching up instead of just pitching up and fly straight ahead ?
    Is it possible?

    • @danilak1873
      @danilak1873 5 лет назад +36

      Just wanted to ask this! Yeah! we need ANSWER!!!! plz

    • @danilak1873
      @danilak1873 5 лет назад +94

      i can assume that you gonna lose lift forces, and maybe mountains can be even higher left or right.... i dont know....

    • @Bigalinjapan
      @Bigalinjapan 5 лет назад +60

      @@danilak1873I guess stall will be more likely. Need all power for climb.

    • @tommyvercetti888
      @tommyvercetti888 5 лет назад +51

      a fighter jet can do that but an airliner can't

    • @gordonlawrence4749
      @gordonlawrence4749 5 лет назад +132

      You definitely loose lift when banking. Basically you have a sine/cosine situation. Lift is proportional to the cosine of your bank angle and turn force is proportional to the sine of the angle. That will probably make a difference to banking or not in this situation. That said with some pitch up you also have the engines adding a bit to lift. Lift from the engines is proportional to the sine of your angle relative to gravity. That said you are hardly going to have time to get a pocket calculator out to calculate your force vectors in an emergency which is why the procedures are there - to give you the best chance of survival for the minimum cognitive load.

  • @angelikamierzwa263
    @angelikamierzwa263 Год назад

    That "terrain terrain" voice is terrifying! My heart was in my throat even though it was only a simulation 🙈🙊😅

  • @buckstarchaser2376
    @buckstarchaser2376 4 года назад +3

    I remember that lesson from Air Crash Investigation. One of the more stressful episodes.

  • @PurityVendetta
    @PurityVendetta 2 года назад +3

    Wow, that was an incredibly intense video even though I'm watching two guys in a simulator from the safety of my own sofa. Thanks for taking the time to explain why you didn't raise the gear as I was wondering.

  • @limrc1
    @limrc1 5 лет назад +6

    Thanks for bringing us into and letting us experience what it feels like when you could die and fighting for everyone's lives. Another thing that's not readily obvious is the intense training of CRM or Cockpit Resource Management. Responses were automatic with superb, life saving, instincts with each confirming and validating each other's actions. Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @Kathy-zx5bu
    @Kathy-zx5bu Год назад

    I would fly with you two anytime! I thought your First Officer was excellent. He took care of his role and allowed uou to take care of yours. Thank you.

  • @arnoldloudly5423
    @arnoldloudly5423 3 года назад +8

    That was fantastic...fascinating to see. Even a tiny bit of panic during the alert and its all over.

  • @franswahyu6831
    @franswahyu6831 5 лет назад +6

    Don't forget in 2012 a Superjet 100 during promotional flight in Indonesia crashed on mountain just few moments after take off even "Terrain ahead" warning already automatically warned the crew.

    • @TheOmega13a
      @TheOmega13a 5 лет назад +5

      It wasn't moments after take off. It was half way through the demonstration flight. They were supposed to fly in a circle before heading back to the airport. However, they got distracted explaining the systems to a guest in the cockpit, forgot to put an import to turn back to the airport and continued to fly away from the airport right into the mountain. They didn't see the mountain because of clouds. After getting the warning about terrain ahead, they turned off the EGPW system because they thought the warning they got was false.

    • @flybyairplane3528
      @flybyairplane3528 5 лет назад

      Frans Wahyu yeah,,but after the AA going to CALI COLUMBIA, the GWPS system warns you earlier so as to possibly clear the mountain EARLIER.cheers from NJ

  • @pilot_ricky
    @pilot_ricky 5 лет назад +52

    I love your videos! I think that showing a practical example is the best way to explain a specific manouver. Keep going!

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 Год назад

    Not being able to medically be a pilot is soul-crushing, but this channel gives me enough fix to survive.

  • @dkoz8321
    @dkoz8321 2 года назад +2

    That terrain avoidance system, looks like it was influenced by terrain following radar navigation for F-111 and Tornado, developed in late 1960's and deployed in 1970's.

  • @IwCk
    @IwCk 5 лет назад +9

    This is an amazing video as usual. Thanks for all the valuable info's you provide in this RUclips channel.

  • @plasmaburndeath
    @plasmaburndeath 5 лет назад +4

    Great video as always Petter. Thank you for always doing quality content for us.

  • @craig.trevor3213
    @craig.trevor3213 Год назад

    i am not a pilot, but as a professional driver (Hot Rod Limo Santa Barbara), these videos help me, in the back of my mind, as i have many controls , and distractions, and traffic, just like a pilot has.

  • @Zapii112
    @Zapii112 2 года назад +2

    I've been watching many of your videos over the last couple of days and I very much enjoy them! I was surpsied to see the terrain escape over a mountain I've hiked up many times :)

  • @flyhigh1500
    @flyhigh1500 5 лет назад +14

    Very very interesting technical content ! Thank you Mentour

  • @citizenblue
    @citizenblue 5 лет назад +16

    Mentour, how do you react physiologically when performing these maneuvers in a sim? Do you feel that life or death urgency or does knowing it's a simulation negate that? I am aware that pilots revert to their training in these contingencies, thus (hopefully) avoiding panic and poor decisions, but is the adrenaline there? Great video, awesome topic!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  5 лет назад +50

      Well, to a certain extent. Im sure you heard my “shit shit shit” comments when the radar altimeter started going down.. so yes, a bit

  • @marks2731
    @marks2731 2 года назад +2

    As always, excellent explanation.
    Always easy to understand someone’s explanation of something when they understand it inside out and back to front.

  • @MohawkMan70
    @MohawkMan70 4 года назад +2

    Thank god for pilots like Mentour...but mad props to these co pilots, first officers ect. For those about to fly...We salute you!

  • @VincentRiquer
    @VincentRiquer 5 лет назад +143

    Meanwhile, on Flat-Earth Airlines: FIRMAMENT FIRMAMENT PUSH DOWN!

    • @Justin.Franks
      @Justin.Franks 3 года назад +37

      Yeah, but that's only an issue flying close to the ice wall. Which you can't do, obviously, since the trained attack penguins would shoot down your plane long before you ever got close enough.

    • @FatheredPuma81
      @FatheredPuma81 3 года назад +9

      ​@@Justin.Franks trained? theyr litraly born with machine guns and rokets mounted too em bruh u no the last time a plane crash into the ice wall? their was a flood! scarry stuff man...

    • @KingdaToro
      @KingdaToro 3 года назад +13

      Meanwhile there's no place to land because cats have already pushed everything over the edge.

  • @actarus2021
    @actarus2021 4 года назад +9

    Hey Guy’s I live at the foot of this mountain. It is called Untersberg and is 6470 feet high. Good VX!

  • @WilliamDavidKirbyUK
    @WilliamDavidKirbyUK Год назад

    I do like the way that you explain these - possibly harrowing - manuevres. In simple terms and always very calm. Thank you for being such a good instructor.

  • @bonbondesel
    @bonbondesel Год назад +1

    This video shows very well how quick it can happen.
    Impressive !
    Very good video !

  • @tullochmacdonald4245
    @tullochmacdonald4245 Год назад +4

    This may be an older video but it was still informative. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights into the problems that can be encountered and hopefully overcome. I wish you well in your continued travels.

    • @sharoncassell9358
      @sharoncassell9358 Год назад +2

      I flew a simulator for 737 in 1984. It was realistic & just as scary but the technology greatly has upgraded and modernized. Alot more safety features.Glad for improvements.

  • @ThomasGabrielsen
    @ThomasGabrielsen 5 лет назад +10

    Dette var en veldig bra video med mye interessant informasjon jeg ikke visste fra før. Jeg ante ikke at dere kunne dra så hardt og lenge helt til "the stick shaker" startet. Veldig interessant!
    PS: Jeg skriver på norsk siden jeg vet du er svensk og det er hyggelig at en fra broder-landet har gjort det så bra som du har. Gratulerer! Du har gjort en strålende jobb og har anbefalt deg for alle mine venner som er interessert i fly. Dette er et engangstilfelle, jeg vil kun kommentere på engelsk i fremtiden. :-)

  • @christophermercado5466
    @christophermercado5466 2 года назад +4

    Ever since I was 5 I've had a pure love with aviation, and this channel is heaven to me. Thank you so much for doing this Captain.

  • @rolty1
    @rolty1 2 года назад

    I love your port and starboard cushions!

  • @TheCracker94
    @TheCracker94 5 лет назад +13

    This was awesome Mentour!! I loved it. Still hard to believe that we can access this amazing content for free on RUclips. Thank you again :)

  • @rex69832
    @rex69832 3 года назад +6

    Absolutely fascinating, sir. Even though you are in a simulator you have nerves of steel. Well done, sir.

  • @juliehay
    @juliehay Год назад +2

    yes, that was definitely nerve wracking! it was really lovely at the end to see you playing with one of your dogs, so much fun that the other one wanted some fun too, how lovely, thankyou for that, and an excellent video showing just some of what you pilots have to do.

  • @phugoid
    @phugoid 2 года назад +1

    A stellar video, mate. Absolutely splendid pedagogy!

  • @elizabethannferrario7113
    @elizabethannferrario7113 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you Mentour very interesting!

  • @deandanielson8074
    @deandanielson8074 5 лет назад +8

    Wow -- bone chilling to watch and helpful to understand terrain avoidance. I did not realize how safety in commercial flight was made so much safer with the invention and implementation of this technology. Thanks !!! - Dean from Minnesota

  • @nigeldewallens1115
    @nigeldewallens1115 Год назад

    I just watched your recent post for the 3 July 2022! Hence me watching this! That was really fascinating to watch you, as a Pilot doing your training! Thank you even so much for showing us it! I never had a lack of confidence in you pilots but it does help allow someone to see the full scope of your training! Once again thank you very much! 😉😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👌

  • @topquark22
    @topquark22 2 года назад +1

    Tak Petter, one of the most thrilling videos you have made for us. Have an absolutely fantastic day.

  • @dera_ng
    @dera_ng 5 лет назад +11

    This is probably the best video that i've watched on youtube. It was really chilling. And I was thoroughly impressed with the way the pilots handled the situation. I wasn't even in the flight deck and I had some serious concern with the situation. Almost sweaty! Again, this shows that pilots are a special breed of humans. This video would have been the best video in the aviation industry this year if it was a female crew that flew this maneuver or at least a female PF (Pilot Flying). Amazing. Simply amazing. This just adds new fresh dry wood to my burning passion of being a pilot. I definitely will get there! Thank you Mentour. Generations of pilots unborn will forever appreciate your videos and your effort to get this sort of content out to the community and the world.

  • @Thunderhead357
    @Thunderhead357 4 года назад +5

    Taking off from LAX if they have to fly over the mountains, the planes head west over the ocean then loop round to get hight over distance whilst maintianing the speed required to fly over them due to the close proximity of the terrain. Fascinating stuff! Loving the knowledge you're sharing with us. A great insight

  • @angelmartin5973
    @angelmartin5973 3 года назад +1

    Wow! That got my heart racing unexpectedly, nice job guys!

  • @andyjackson3891
    @andyjackson3891 2 года назад +2

    ...and THIS is why we put our lives in pilots hands. Incredible. Thanks for this explanation/demonstration, Mentour.